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Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience &amp; Building The Build Log
00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons &amp; CoffeeScript Trauma
00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents &amp; The Future of AI Assistants
00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks &amp; AGI
00:25:58 Ryan &amp; The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards &amp; Airport Fashion
00:31:39 GitHub&#39;s Two Nines Problem &amp; The Git Repo Revolution
00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures &amp; The Flip Phone Dream
00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries &amp; Spec-Driven Development
00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate &amp; Projections of Software Specs
00:58:42 State Machines, BDD &amp; Multi-Agent Orchestration
01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories &amp; Cloud Code Desktop
01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development &amp; Conference Culture
01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback &amp; Comparing Things
01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization &amp; The Feature of Forced Breaks
01:41:33 Wrap Up &amp; The Power of In-Person Connections

Links
Clerk: https://clerk.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan
MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
Pi: https://pi.ai/
Grok: https://grok.x.ai/
Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/start
Remix: https://remix.run/
React: https://react.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/
Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/
Connect with Jason
Website: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Connect with Kent
Website: https://kentcdodds.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdodds
Connect with Tanner
Website: https://tanstack.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsley
Connect with Francesco
Website: https://francescociulla.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KVWTH62ZDD8FW3Z4C9KADEB2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KVWTH62ZBZXXSH80C6GGQD3Z.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by GitKraken: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm">https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:01:39</strong> The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log</li><li><strong>00:09:09</strong> Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma</li><li><strong>00:13:48</strong> Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants</li><li><strong>00:21:40</strong> Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI</li><li><strong>00:25:58</strong> Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion</li><li><strong>00:31:39</strong> GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution</li><li><strong>00:39:30</strong> Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream</li><li><strong>00:45:47</strong> Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development</li><li><strong>00:55:55</strong> The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs</li><li><strong>00:58:42</strong> State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration</li><li><strong>01:01:43</strong> Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop</li><li><strong>01:11:31</strong> Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture</li><li><strong>01:29:00</strong> The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things</li><li><strong>01:35:29</strong> GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks</li><li><strong>01:41:33</strong> Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person Connections</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Clerk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clerk.com/">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Lamborghini Huracan: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan">https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MCP (Model Context Protocol): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Codex: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/">https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Grok: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://grok.x.ai/">https://grok.x.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ghostty: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ghostty.org/">https://ghostty.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TanStack: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tanstack.com/">https://tanstack.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TanStack Start: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tanstack.com/start">https://tanstack.com/start</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Remix: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Kotlin: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://kotlinlang.org/">https://kotlinlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Prolog: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.swi-prolog.org/">https://www.swi-prolog.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cloudflare: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cloudflare.com/">https://www.cloudflare.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gemini: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gemini.google.com/">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cascadia JS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev/">https://www.learnwithjason.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/jlengstorf">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Kent</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://kentcdodds.com/">https://kentcdodds.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/kentcdodds">https://x.com/kentcdodds</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Tanner</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tanstack.com/">https://tanstack.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/tannerlinsley">https://x.com/tannerlinsley</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Francesco</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://francescociulla.com/">https://francescociulla.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4">https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Dark Factories, Polymorphic UI, and Why Developers Still Matter</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KVYBWK1SZ459JABF43QM5JMZ/code-colosseum-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>6214</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>248</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he&#39;s building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.
Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience &amp; Building The Build Log
00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons &amp; CoffeeScript Trauma
00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents &amp; The Future of AI Assistants
00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks &amp; AGI
00:25:58 Ryan &amp; The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards &amp; Airport Fashion
00:31:39 GitHub&#39;s Two Nines Problem &amp; The Git Repo Revolution
00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures &amp; The Flip Phone Dream
00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries &amp; Spec-Driven Development
00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate &amp; Projections of Software Specs
00:58:42 State Machines, BDD &amp; Multi-Agent Orchestration
01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories &amp; Cloud Code Desktop
01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development &amp; Conference Culture
01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback &amp; Comparing Things
01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization &amp; The Feature of Forced Breaks
01:41:33 Wrap Up &amp; The Power of In-Person Connections

Links
Clerk: https://clerk.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan
MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
Pi: https://pi.ai/
Grok: https://grok.x.ai/
Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/start
Remix: https://remix.run/
React: https://react.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/
Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/
Connect with Jason
Website: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Connect with Kent
Website: https://kentcdodds.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdodds
Connect with Tanner
Website: https://tanstack.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsley
Connect with Francesco
Website: https://francescociulla.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?
00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies &amp; The Power of Proxies
00:08:40 Semicolons, Java &amp; Programming Language Hot Takes
00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode &amp; Steve
00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare &amp; The Art of Chair Defense
00:28:01 Token Arbitrage &amp; The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy
00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform
00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps &amp; Finding Tree Stands
00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen
00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite &amp; The Boy Scout Expulsion Story
00:40:53 Ramon &amp; The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm
00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw &amp; Making $50 with Ramon
00:50:12 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Ken

Links
Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/
React: https://react.dev/
React Server Components: https://react.dev/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
Gea: https://geajs.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Replit: https://replit.com/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/
Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve
Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
Clerk: https://clerk.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Connect with Ken
X / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheeler
GitHub: https://github.com/kenwheeler
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KVG9XTY68H0SHW3GRHGFG8PE</guid><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:08:17 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KVG9XTY6HE3QX8JJ64795C61.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by GitKraken: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm">https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:03:20</strong> Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?</li><li><strong>00:04:59</strong> React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?</li><li><strong>00:06:52</strong> Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Power of Proxies</li><li><strong>00:08:40</strong> Semicolons, Java & Programming Language Hot Takes</li><li><strong>00:12:46</strong> AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode & Steve</li><li><strong>00:16:08</strong> Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?</li><li><strong>00:23:20</strong> Cruise Ship Warfare & The Art of Chair Defense</li><li><strong>00:28:01</strong> Token Arbitrage & The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy</li><li><strong>00:29:18</strong> Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform</li><li><strong>00:32:31</strong> Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps & Finding Tree Stands</li><li><strong>00:34:01</strong> The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen</li><li><strong>00:36:55</strong> Eagle Scouts Unite & The Boy Scout Expulsion Story</li><li><strong>00:40:53</strong> Ramon & The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm</li><li><strong>00:46:29</strong> Hermes vs OpenClaw & Making  with Ramon</li><li><strong>00:50:12</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Ken</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Cutwater Spirits: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cutwaterspirits.com/">https://cutwaterspirits.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Server Components: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gea: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://geajs.com/">https://geajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">VS Code: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Replit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://replit.com/">https://replit.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Hermes: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://hermesengine.dev/">https://hermesengine.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Steve: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve">https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Qwen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://qwenlm.github.io/">https://qwenlm.github.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">HashiCorp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.hashicorp.com/">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Clerk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clerk.com/">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Slick Carousel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/">https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Ken</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/kenwheeler">https://x.com/kenwheeler</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/kenwheeler">https://github.com/kenwheeler</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Proxies, Petty Pranks, and Ramon the 420 IQ Gorilla w/ Ken Wheeler</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KVGK19NP3HPD6H9D0ZG2KCQ6/ramon-lambo-chaos-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3080</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>247</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective.
Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm
In this episode:
Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?
00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies &amp; The Power of Proxies
00:08:40 Semicolons, Java &amp; Programming Language Hot Takes
00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode &amp; Steve
00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare &amp; The Art of Chair Defense
00:28:01 Token Arbitrage &amp; The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy
00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform
00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps &amp; Finding Tree Stands
00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen
00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite &amp; The Boy Scout Expulsion Story
00:40:53 Ramon &amp; The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm
00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw &amp; Making $50 with Ramon
00:50:12 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Ken

Links
Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/
React: https://react.dev/
React Server Components: https://react.dev/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
Gea: https://geajs.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Replit: https://replit.com/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/
Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve
Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
Clerk: https://clerk.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Connect with Ken
X / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheeler
GitHub: https://github.com/kenwheeler
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
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In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components &amp; Framework Debates
00:03:19 Hooks, Signals &amp; The Future of Reactivity
00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge &amp; Developer Workflow Preferences
00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses &amp; The State of AI Development
00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs &amp; Terminal Trends
00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs &amp; Developer Research Habits
00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance &amp; Package Manager Wars
00:20:29 Security Nightmares &amp; Social Engineering Attacks
00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic &amp; The AI Model Wars
00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey &amp; Beards
00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals &amp; Framework Philosophy
00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive &amp; Performance Reality
00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement &amp; The Token Spending Arms Race
00:35:09 GStack Drama &amp; Gary Tan Controversies
00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo &amp; Modern Build Tools
00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex
01:05:31 The Future of Web Development &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/



React: https://react.dev/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf



Zed: https://zed.dev/



VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



Arc Browser: https://arc.net/



Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



PNPM: https://pnpm.io/



Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Convex: https://www.convex.dev/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/

Connect with Nnenna





Website: https://www.nnennahacks.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacks

Connect with Micky





Website: https://www.rasmic.xyz/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/Rasmic

Connect with Ryan





Website: https://ryan.ceo/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogel

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KTAVNTHMYGB2Q7H2TA93ZW9Z</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KTAVNTHMYHGP48DP5FNCPJRM.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael "Micky" Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan "Thighs" Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:11</strong> Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates</li><li><strong>00:03:19</strong> Hooks, Signals & The Future of Reactivity</li><li><strong>00:03:26</strong> Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate</li><li><strong>00:04:05</strong> Git Rebase vs Merge & Developer Workflow Preferences</li><li><strong>00:06:21</strong> AGI, AI Harnesses & The State of AI Development</li><li><strong>00:09:12</strong> Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?</li><li><strong>00:10:54</strong> Code Editors, Tabs & Terminal Trends</li><li><strong>00:16:34</strong> Google Search vs LLMs & Developer Research Habits</li><li><strong>00:17:24</strong> Composition vs Inheritance & Package Manager Wars</li><li><strong>00:20:29</strong> Security Nightmares & Social Engineering Attacks</li><li><strong>00:23:34</strong> OpenAI vs Anthropic & The AI Model Wars</li><li><strong>00:25:32</strong> Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey & Beards</li><li><strong>00:27:22</strong> Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals & Framework Philosophy</li><li><strong>00:29:39</strong> React Server Components Deep Dive & Performance Reality</li><li><strong>00:31:17</strong> GPT 5.5 Announcement & The Token Spending Arms Race</li><li><strong>00:35:09</strong> GStack Drama & Gary Tan Controversies</li><li><strong>00:36:49</strong> Monorepos, Turborepo & Modern Build Tools</li><li><strong>00:41:31</strong> AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex</li><li><strong>01:05:31</strong> The Future of Web Development & Wrap Up</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Cutwater Spirits: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cutwaterspirits.com/">https://cutwaterspirits.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Server Components: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Codex: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/">https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Windsurf: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://codeium.com/windsurf">https://codeium.com/windsurf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Zed: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://zed.dev/">https://zed.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">VS Code: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ghostty: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ghostty.org/">https://ghostty.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Arc Browser: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://arc.net/">https://arc.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Perplexity: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.perplexity.ai/">https://www.perplexity.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">NPM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">PNPM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pnpm.io/">https://pnpm.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Yarn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://yarnpkg.com/">https://yarnpkg.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Convex: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.convex.dev/">https://www.convex.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Clerk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clerk.com/">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Nnenna</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.nnennahacks.com/">https://www.nnennahacks.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/nnennahacks">https://x.com/nnennahacks</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Micky</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.rasmic.xyz/">https://www.rasmic.xyz/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/Rasmic">https://x.com/Rasmic</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Ryan</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://ryan.ceo/">https://ryan.ceo/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/ryanvogel">https://x.com/ryanvogel</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>AI Harnesses, Framework Wars, and Why Beards Beat Mustaches</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KTT9YWPJYPE4YCTS0V6C9TMG/framework-trial-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4123</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>246</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael &#34;Micky&#34; Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan &#34;Thighs&#34; Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components &amp; Framework Debates
00:03:19 Hooks, Signals &amp; The Future of Reactivity
00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge &amp; Developer Workflow Preferences
00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses &amp; The State of AI Development
00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs &amp; Terminal Trends
00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs &amp; Developer Research Habits
00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance &amp; Package Manager Wars
00:20:29 Security Nightmares &amp; Social Engineering Attacks
00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic &amp; The AI Model Wars
00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey &amp; Beards
00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals &amp; Framework Philosophy
00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive &amp; Performance Reality
00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement &amp; The Token Spending Arms Race
00:35:09 GStack Drama &amp; Gary Tan Controversies
00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo &amp; Modern Build Tools
00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex
01:05:31 The Future of Web Development &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/



React: https://react.dev/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf



Zed: https://zed.dev/



VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



Arc Browser: https://arc.net/



Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



PNPM: https://pnpm.io/



Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Convex: https://www.convex.dev/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/

Connect with Nnenna





Website: https://www.nnennahacks.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacks

Connect with Micky





Website: https://www.rasmic.xyz/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/Rasmic

Connect with Ryan





Website: https://ryan.ceo/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogel

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KTTAPAHVZNZ79MNQM6PR85JC/generated-image__8_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KTTAPAHVZNZ79MNQM6PR85JC/generated-image__8_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KTAVP1RQVAPJE5XY15P4GVG8/0246_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KTAVNTHMYHGP48DP5FNCPJRM.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>From COBOL to Claude: Live Coding, AI Agents, and the Death of Typing w/ Typecraft</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we&#39;ve reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won&#39;t die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library &amp; Server Components
00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies &amp; The Future of Reactivity
00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach
00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers &amp; Programming Language Preferences
00:25:01 AI in Interviews &amp; The New Developer Workflow
00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think
00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling &amp; The Value of Bullying
00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control &amp; Long-Running Agents
00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?
00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox &amp; Brain Fry
01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes &amp; Why Legacy Tech Won&#39;t Die
01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs
01:12:27 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Everyone


Links





Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/



Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/



React: https://react.dev/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Remix: https://remix.run/



GEA: https://geajs.com/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Vim: https://www.vim.org/



NeoVim: https://neovim.io/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/



Dart: https://dart.dev/



Java: https://www.java.com/



COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL



Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



PNPM: https://pnpm.io/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/

Connect with Chris





Website: https://typecraft.dev/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KSTQKHKHG3WDGB6ZZ8008N7V</guid><pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2026 14:48:46 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KSTQKHKHBXHMD8BSM87Y9F5T.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:52</strong> Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components</li><li><strong>00:05:26</strong> Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity</li><li><strong>00:08:12</strong> Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate</li><li><strong>00:11:51</strong> Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach</li><li><strong>00:13:54</strong> Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences</li><li><strong>00:25:01</strong> AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow</li><li><strong>00:29:59</strong> Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think</li><li><strong>00:31:35</strong> 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying</li><li><strong>00:49:33</strong> AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents</li><li><strong>00:46:24</strong> Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?</li><li><strong>00:51:01</strong> AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry</li><li><strong>01:03:33</strong> COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die</li><li><strong>01:09:40</strong> The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs</li><li><strong>01:12:27</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Everyone</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Cutwater Spirits: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cutwaterspirits.com/">https://cutwaterspirits.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Typecraft: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://typecraft.dev/">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Server Components: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Remix: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GEA: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://geajs.com/">https://geajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vim: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.vim.org/">https://www.vim.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">NeoVim: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://neovim.io/">https://neovim.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.python.org/">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ruby: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ruby-lang.org/">https://www.ruby-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Dart: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://dart.dev/">https://dart.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Java: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.java.com/">https://www.java.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">COBOL: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Yarn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://yarnpkg.com/">https://yarnpkg.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">NPM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">PNPM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pnpm.io/">https://pnpm.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Minecraft: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.minecraft.net/">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Clerk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clerk.com/">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rent a Human: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://rentahuman.ai/">https://rentahuman.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Chris</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://typecraft.dev/">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/typecraft_dev">https://x.com/typecraft_dev</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From COBOL to Claude: Live Coding, AI Agents, and the Death of Typing w/ Typecraft</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSWT9ASYCZQKPJZNH7KYAJ57/typecraft.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4398</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>245</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we&#39;ve reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won&#39;t die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library &amp; Server Components
00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies &amp; The Future of Reactivity
00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach
00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers &amp; Programming Language Preferences
00:25:01 AI in Interviews &amp; The New Developer Workflow
00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think
00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling &amp; The Value of Bullying
00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control &amp; Long-Running Agents
00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?
00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox &amp; Brain Fry
01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes &amp; Why Legacy Tech Won&#39;t Die
01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs
01:12:27 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Everyone


Links





Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/



Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/



React: https://react.dev/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Remix: https://remix.run/



GEA: https://geajs.com/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Vim: https://www.vim.org/



NeoVim: https://neovim.io/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/



Dart: https://dart.dev/



Java: https://www.java.com/



COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL



Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



PNPM: https://pnpm.io/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/

Connect with Chris





Website: https://typecraft.dev/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSTSSEZYPHSBEBJZMAVJEZY7/generated-image__8_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSTSSEZYPHSBEBJZMAVJEZY7/generated-image__8_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSTQKQ89E3VP741FAHJVA1E6/0245_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KSTQKHKHBXHMD8BSM87Y9F5T.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>React Foundation, AI Agents, and the Future of Frameworks w/ Seth Webster</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React&#39;s past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library?
00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story
00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI
00:23:39 Error Messages &amp; Developer Experience for AI
00:27:12 React Foundation Goals &amp; Stable API Work
00:31:15 Open Source Contributions &amp; Career Growth
00:34:29 AI Code Provenance &amp; Compensating Open Source
00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World
00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AI


Links





React Foundation: https://react.foundation/



Expo: https://expo.dev/



React: https://react.dev/



React Native: https://reactnative.dev/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/



Meta: https://about.meta.com/



CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/



Remix: https://remix.run/

Connect with Seth





X / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebster



React Foundation: https://react.foundation/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KSJ54ZWEJZCV04JSTDT13X6R</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KSJ54ZWEFSZHYRHCTNDAD4DK.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React's past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:12</strong> Is React a Framework or Library?</li><li><strong>00:04:35</strong> React Server Components: The Full Stack Story</li><li><strong>00:18:15</strong> Frameworks in the Age of AI</li><li><strong>00:23:39</strong> Error Messages & Developer Experience for AI</li><li><strong>00:27:12</strong> React Foundation Goals & Stable API Work</li><li><strong>00:31:15</strong> Open Source Contributions & Career Growth</li><li><strong>00:34:29</strong> AI Code Provenance & Compensating Open Source</li><li><strong>00:42:44</strong> Differentiation in a Saturated AI World</li><li><strong>00:45:30</strong> Call to Action: Start Building with AI</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">React Foundation: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.foundation/">https://react.foundation/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Expo: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://expo.dev/">https://expo.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Native: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://reactnative.dev/">https://reactnative.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Server Components: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Clerk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clerk.com/">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Linux Foundation: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/">https://www.linuxfoundation.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Meta: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://about.meta.com/">https://about.meta.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Tricks: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://css-tricks.com/">https://css-tricks.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Remix: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Seth</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/sethwebster">https://x.com/sethwebster</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Foundation: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.foundation/">https://react.foundation/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>React Foundation, AI Agents, and the Future of Frameworks w/ Seth Webster</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSWSDKE19QMNQG0EN2Z746DS/seth_webster2-upscale_2.4x.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2891</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>244</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React&#39;s past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library?
00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story
00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI
00:23:39 Error Messages &amp; Developer Experience for AI
00:27:12 React Foundation Goals &amp; Stable API Work
00:31:15 Open Source Contributions &amp; Career Growth
00:34:29 AI Code Provenance &amp; Compensating Open Source
00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World
00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AI


Links





React Foundation: https://react.foundation/



Expo: https://expo.dev/



React: https://react.dev/



React Native: https://reactnative.dev/



React Server Components: https://react.dev/



Clerk: https://clerk.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/



Meta: https://about.meta.com/



CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/



Remix: https://remix.run/

Connect with Seth





X / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebster



React Foundation: https://react.foundation/

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Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSJ8RVGC0MSHKVQ7EHVW1VC0/generated-image__7_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSJ8RVGC0MSHKVQ7EHVW1VC0/generated-image__7_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KSJ5578P4AWQJPH00F0J414H/0244_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KSJ54ZWEFSZHYRHCTNDAD4DK.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Keyframes, Cash, and CodePen w/ Shaw</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt
00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?
00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice
00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks &amp; Fans: Modern Version Control
00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch
00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation
00:45:07 Agentic Parenting &amp; The Fart Sycophant Problem
00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens
01:10:43 Whiskey Review &amp; Final Thoughts


Links

- Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/
- CodePen: https://codepen.io/
- CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/
- KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/
- Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/
- Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/
- Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
- GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/
- React Server Components: https://react.dev/
- Claude: https://claude.ai/
- Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary
- Pico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php
- Spike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/
- Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blockly
- Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
- Go: https://go.dev/
- Vercel: https://vercel.com/
- StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/
- Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
- Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)
- The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist
- Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/
- Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
- Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with Shaw

- Website: https://shshaw.com/
- X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshaw

Connect with the hosts

- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

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- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
- Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KS06P8MD8DJKZ16436JP460Z</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KS06P8MDBKZ9CA40JTXYAT39.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:25</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt</li><li><strong>00:04:32</strong> Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?</li><li><strong>00:10:50</strong> Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice</li><li><strong>00:13:21</strong> Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control</li><li><strong>00:22:21</strong> React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?</li><li><strong>00:24:30</strong> CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch</li><li><strong>00:39:18</strong> AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation</li><li><strong>00:45:07</strong> Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem</li><li><strong>00:57:00</strong> Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens</li><li><strong>01:10:43</strong> Whiskey Review & Final Thoughts</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://andalusiawhiskey.com/">https://andalusiawhiskey.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CodePen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://codepen.io/">https://codepen.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CodePen 2.0: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://codepen.io/">https://codepen.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">KeyFramers: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://keyframers.com/">https://keyframers.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Code Mirror 6: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://codemirror.net/">https://codemirror.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apollo GraphQL: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.apollographql.com/">https://www.apollographql.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub Stacks: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Server Components: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Project Hail Mary: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pico-8: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php">https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spike Prime: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/">https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Blockly: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://developers.google.com/blockly">https://developers.google.com/blockly</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rails: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Go: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://go.dev/">https://go.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">StackBlitz: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://stackblitz.com/">https://stackblitz.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Monaco Editor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/">https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">VS Code: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Raised by Wolves: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">The Manualist: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist">https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Aesop Rock: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.aesoprock.com/">https://www.aesoprock.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Minecraft: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.minecraft.net/">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Nerdy.dev: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nerdy.dev/">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Shaw</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shshaw.com/">https://shshaw.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/shshaw">https://x.com/shshaw</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Keyframes, Cash, and CodePen w/ Shaw</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KS3A7CTW6D49F2T31VR01TPR/shaw.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4585</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>243</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt
00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?
00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice
00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks &amp; Fans: Modern Version Control
00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch
00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation
00:45:07 Agentic Parenting &amp; The Fart Sycophant Problem
00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens
01:10:43 Whiskey Review &amp; Final Thoughts


Links

- Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/
- CodePen: https://codepen.io/
- CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/
- KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/
- Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/
- Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/
- Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
- GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/
- React Server Components: https://react.dev/
- Claude: https://claude.ai/
- Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary
- Pico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php
- Spike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/
- Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blockly
- Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
- Go: https://go.dev/
- Vercel: https://vercel.com/
- StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/
- Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
- Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)
- The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist
- Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/
- Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
- Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with Shaw

- Website: https://shshaw.com/
- X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshaw

Connect with the hosts

- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

- Website: https://whiskey.fm
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf
- Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KS3AHHEB7P5QTNCY0G6VYBP1/generated-image__6_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KS3AHHEB7P5QTNCY0G6VYBP1/generated-image__6_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KS06PK5XWDV6C1EMKYEDKVVG/0243_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KS06P8MDBKZ9CA40JTXYAT39.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>From Wetware to Software (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor&#39;s names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids&#39; skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal &amp; Cloud Agents
00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie
00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak &amp; The Anthropic Approach
00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else
00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements &amp; The Memory Problem
00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star
00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie &amp; Doing More Work Than Ever
00:49:14 Second Brains &amp; Local-First AI Memory
00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic
00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging
00:47:02 Instant Translation &amp; The Death of Duolingo
00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent
01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI
01:04:35 Whiskey Rating &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie



Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Ahas: https://ahas.dev/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude



Pi: https://pi.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Cinty: https://cinty.ai/



Hark: https://hark.ai/



Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/



Pretext: https://pretext.app/



Agentation: https://agentation.ai/



Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/



Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/



Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Famous: https://famous.co/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b33931c5-772d-4caa-8cdc-54e86786f8be</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KR00H4R6X2S59KDS8AS0SAV5.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor's names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids' skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:00:36</strong> Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents</li><li><strong>00:03:19</strong> Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie</li><li><strong>00:04:42</strong> Claude Code Source Leak & The Anthropic Approach</li><li><strong>00:08:20</strong> Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else</li><li><strong>00:11:44</strong> OpenClaw Replacements & The Memory Problem</li><li><strong>00:25:20</strong> Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star</li><li><strong>00:29:16</strong> The Four-Day Work Week Lie & Doing More Work Than Ever</li><li><strong>00:49:14</strong> Second Brains & Local-First AI Memory</li><li><strong>00:39:23</strong> Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic</li><li><strong>00:44:21</strong> Agentation: Visual AI Debugging</li><li><strong>00:47:02</strong> Instant Translation & The Death of Duolingo</li><li><strong>00:58:23</strong> Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent</li><li><strong>01:02:34</strong> Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI</li><li><strong>01:04:35</strong> Whiskey Rating & Wrap Up</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Ardbeg Wee Beastie: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie">https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Lagavulin 16: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/">https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ahas: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ahas.dev/">https://ahas.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude">https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gemini: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gemini.google.com/">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Codex: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/">https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cinty: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cinty.ai/">https://cinty.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Hark: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://hark.ai/">https://hark.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Post Bridge: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://postbridge.io/">https://postbridge.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pretext: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pretext.app/">https://pretext.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Agentation: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://agentation.ai/">https://agentation.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pika Stream: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pika.stream/">https://pika.stream/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Obsidian: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://obsidian.md/">https://obsidian.md/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Deno Fresh: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://fresh.deno.dev/">https://fresh.deno.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Drizzle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://orm.drizzle.team/">https://orm.drizzle.team/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Famous: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://famous.co/">https://famous.co/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Nerdy Dev: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nerdy.dev/">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From Wetware to Software (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KR047DJYGZSJJX494A8GHTCS/second-brain-installation-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4112</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>242</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor&#39;s names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids&#39; skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal &amp; Cloud Agents
00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie
00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak &amp; The Anthropic Approach
00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else
00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements &amp; The Memory Problem
00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star
00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie &amp; Doing More Work Than Ever
00:49:14 Second Brains &amp; Local-First AI Memory
00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic
00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging
00:47:02 Instant Translation &amp; The Death of Duolingo
00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent
01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI
01:04:35 Whiskey Rating &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie



Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Ahas: https://ahas.dev/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude



Pi: https://pi.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Cinty: https://cinty.ai/



Hark: https://hark.ai/



Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/



Pretext: https://pretext.app/



Agentation: https://agentation.ai/



Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/



Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/



Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Famous: https://famous.co/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KR046KBAD9RVB3AWPX3KQFGN/generated-image__5_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KR046KBAD9RVB3AWPX3KQFGN/generated-image__5_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KR00HH2QS2MEK0J03GG4YWZC/0242_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KR00H4R6X2S59KDS8AS0SAV5.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Axios Is Out. Fetchium Is In. (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Kristen Garrett to talk signals, reactivity, and whether we&#39;ve finally found the abstraction that makes sense. They dig into the differences between signals and hooks, why parameterized signals matter, how async fits into reactivity, and whether Fetchium is about to replace Axios and TanStack Query. Along the way, they debate observables versus promises, the death of prop drilling, quantum computing cracking Bitcoin, why AI needs simpler abstractions, and whether humans are about to become legacy dependencies in their own codebases.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:37 Sponsor: Warp Terminal &amp; Cloud Agents
00:02:46 Whiskey Introduction: Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bourbon
00:04:17 What Are Signals? The Reactivity Primer
00:07:00 Signalium Deep Dive: Parameterized Signals &amp; Reactive Promises
00:13:15 The Hooks Problem: Why React&#39;s Model Has Limits
00:14:21 Observables vs Signals: The Ergonomics Debate
00:27:21 Async in Reactivity: Reactive Promises &amp; Relays
00:03:49 Fetchium: The Last Data Client You&#39;ll Ever Need
00:24:50 The Signals Proposal &amp; TC39 Standardization
00:45:25 Prop Drilling vs Threading: Understanding Data Flow
00:38:05 AI &amp; The Future of Development: Reading Code Matters More Than Ever
00:32:29 Gea Framework: Compiler Magic Without Hooks or Signals
00:56:27 Crypto, Verifiability &amp; The AI Spam Problem
00:58:28 Quantum Computing vs Bitcoin: The 2029 Threat
01:02:44 Digital Ownership &amp; The Streaming Problem
01:08:55 Whiskey Rating &amp; Final Thoughts
01:07:06 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Signalium and Fetchium


Links





Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bottled in Bond: https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/



Signalium: https://signalium.dev/



Fetchium: https://fetchium.dev/



Signals Proposal: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signals



MobX: https://mobx.js.org/



Angular: https://angular.dev/



Vue: https://vuejs.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



React: https://react.dev/



Jotai: https://jotai.org/



Legend State: https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/



Apollo Client: https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/



TanStack Query: https://tanstack.com/query/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Gea: https://geajs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/



Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/



Shor&#39;s Algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm



Data Hoarders: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/



Wayne&#39;s World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_World

Connect with Kristen





GitHub: https://github.com/pzuraq



Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.social

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e717cff3-8dfb-472a-b323-f98ebbf3baa9</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KQHYVANJZN558JRHP96BC4AF.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Kristen Garrett to talk signals, reactivity, and whether we've finally found the abstraction that makes sense. They dig into the differences between signals and hooks, why parameterized signals matter, how async fits into reactivity, and whether Fetchium is about to replace Axios and TanStack Query. Along the way, they debate observables versus promises, the death of prop drilling, quantum computing cracking Bitcoin, why AI needs simpler abstractions, and whether humans are about to become legacy dependencies in their own codebases.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:00:37</strong> Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents</li><li><strong>00:02:46</strong> Whiskey Introduction: Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bourbon</li><li><strong>00:04:17</strong> What Are Signals? The Reactivity Primer</li><li><strong>00:07:00</strong> Signalium Deep Dive: Parameterized Signals & Reactive Promises</li><li><strong>00:13:15</strong> The Hooks Problem: Why React's Model Has Limits</li><li><strong>00:14:21</strong> Observables vs Signals: The Ergonomics Debate</li><li><strong>00:27:21</strong> Async in Reactivity: Reactive Promises & Relays</li><li><strong>00:03:49</strong> Fetchium: The Last Data Client You'll Ever Need</li><li><strong>00:24:50</strong> The Signals Proposal & TC39 Standardization</li><li><strong>00:45:25</strong> Prop Drilling vs Threading: Understanding Data Flow</li><li><strong>00:38:05</strong> AI & The Future of Development: Reading Code Matters More Than Ever</li><li><strong>00:32:29</strong> Gea Framework: Compiler Magic Without Hooks or Signals</li><li><strong>00:56:27</strong> Crypto, Verifiability & The AI Spam Problem</li><li><strong>00:58:28</strong> Quantum Computing vs Bitcoin: The 2029 Threat</li><li><strong>01:02:44</strong> Digital Ownership & The Streaming Problem</li><li><strong>01:08:55</strong> Whiskey Rating & Final Thoughts</li><li><strong>01:07:06</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Signalium and Fetchium</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bottled in Bond: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/">https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Signalium: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://signalium.dev/">https://signalium.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Fetchium: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://fetchium.dev/">https://fetchium.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Signals Proposal: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signals">https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signals</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MobX: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://mobx.js.org/">https://mobx.js.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Angular: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://angular.dev/">https://angular.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vue: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jotai: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://jotai.org/">https://jotai.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Legend State: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/">https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apollo Client: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/">https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TanStack Query: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tanstack.com/query/">https://tanstack.com/query/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gea: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://geajs.com/">https://geajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ethereum: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ethereum.org/">https://ethereum.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bitcoin: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://bitcoin.org/">https://bitcoin.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shor's Algorithm: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Data Hoarders: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/">https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Wayne's World: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_World">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_World</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Kristen</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://github.com/pzuraq">https://github.com/pzuraq</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bluesky: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.social</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Axios Is Out. Fetchium Is In. (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KQRB13FAJ3DKJ6EZS0161YKX/signal-hooks-crossroads-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4301</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>241</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Kristen Garrett to talk signals, reactivity, and whether we&#39;ve finally found the abstraction that makes sense. They dig into the differences between signals and hooks, why parameterized signals matter, how async fits into reactivity, and whether Fetchium is about to replace Axios and TanStack Query. Along the way, they debate observables versus promises, the death of prop drilling, quantum computing cracking Bitcoin, why AI needs simpler abstractions, and whether humans are about to become legacy dependencies in their own codebases.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:37 Sponsor: Warp Terminal &amp; Cloud Agents
00:02:46 Whiskey Introduction: Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bourbon
00:04:17 What Are Signals? The Reactivity Primer
00:07:00 Signalium Deep Dive: Parameterized Signals &amp; Reactive Promises
00:13:15 The Hooks Problem: Why React&#39;s Model Has Limits
00:14:21 Observables vs Signals: The Ergonomics Debate
00:27:21 Async in Reactivity: Reactive Promises &amp; Relays
00:03:49 Fetchium: The Last Data Client You&#39;ll Ever Need
00:24:50 The Signals Proposal &amp; TC39 Standardization
00:45:25 Prop Drilling vs Threading: Understanding Data Flow
00:38:05 AI &amp; The Future of Development: Reading Code Matters More Than Ever
00:32:29 Gea Framework: Compiler Magic Without Hooks or Signals
00:56:27 Crypto, Verifiability &amp; The AI Spam Problem
00:58:28 Quantum Computing vs Bitcoin: The 2029 Threat
01:02:44 Digital Ownership &amp; The Streaming Problem
01:08:55 Whiskey Rating &amp; Final Thoughts
01:07:06 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Signalium and Fetchium


Links





Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bottled in Bond: https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/



Signalium: https://signalium.dev/



Fetchium: https://fetchium.dev/



Signals Proposal: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signals



MobX: https://mobx.js.org/



Angular: https://angular.dev/



Vue: https://vuejs.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



React: https://react.dev/



Jotai: https://jotai.org/



Legend State: https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/



Apollo Client: https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/



TanStack Query: https://tanstack.com/query/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Gea: https://geajs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/



Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/



Shor&#39;s Algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm



Data Hoarders: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/



Wayne&#39;s World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_World

Connect with Kristen





GitHub: https://github.com/pzuraq



Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.social

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KQRBGMX4RNB9KE9FKSM4SNZ1/generated-image__2_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KQRBGMX4RNB9KE9FKSM4SNZ1/generated-image__2_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KQHZF28V1RKYYT5N1E6DE6YC/0276_final_with-ad_v2__1_-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KQHYVANJZN558JRHP96BC4AF.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip on whiskey from the Muff Liquor Company and dive deep into the chaotic state of AI development, Jensen Huang&#39;s wild claims about AGI and token spending, and whether we&#39;ve accidentally turned developers into Ralph Wiggum loopers. They debate auto research workflows, day shift versus night shift coding strategies, the death of MCP servers, AI cow herding collars disrupting agriculture, and why Ghostty&#39;s Mitchell just joined Vercel&#39;s board. Along the way, they cover vertical terminal layouts, United&#39;s new relax row seating, OpenClaw&#39;s inability to follow instructions, and why scoring mechanisms might be the key to making AI actually useful.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp and Cloud Agents
00:01:19 AI Context Problems &amp; The AGI Debate
00:09:58 Jensen&#39;s Hot Takes: Token Spending &amp; AGI Claims
00:13:54 Is MCP Dead? The Protocol Nobody Needs
00:16:35 AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd
00:21:32 OpenCode Gives Money to Pie Contributors
00:43:17 Auto Research: The Night Shift AI Worker
00:49:06 Gia Framework: The Compiler Revolution
00:55:02 ChatGPT Ads &amp; Data Selling Concerns
01:05:51 Whiskey Tasting: Muff Liquor Company
01:15:21 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Us


Links





Muff Liquor Company: https://muffliquorcompany.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Pi: https://pi.ai/



MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Auto Research: https://github.com/karpathy/auto-research



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



CMUX: https://github.com/cmux/cmux



Peon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



Railway: https://railway.app/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Gea: https://geajs.com/



Impeccable Design Skills: https://impeccable.style/



Radiant Shaders: https://radiantshaders.com/



Mitosis: https://github.com/builderio/mitosis



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/



Lucid Motors: https://www.lucidmotors.com/



United Airlines Relax Row: https://www.united.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ab692f0d-ca8e-49e4-badd-fa9af45bb854</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KPB99MDPGPWZVA0MQAJGXRPK.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip on whiskey from the Muff Liquor Company and dive deep into the chaotic state of AI development, Jensen Huang's wild claims about AGI and token spending, and whether we've accidentally turned developers into Ralph Wiggum loopers. They debate auto research workflows, day shift versus night shift coding strategies, the death of MCP servers, AI cow herding collars disrupting agriculture, and why Ghostty's Mitchell just joined Vercel's board. Along the way, they cover vertical terminal layouts, United's new relax row seating, OpenClaw's inability to follow instructions, and why scoring mechanisms might be the key to making AI actually useful.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:00:36</strong> Sponsor: Warp and Cloud Agents</li><li><strong>00:01:19</strong> AI Context Problems & The AGI Debate</li><li><strong>00:09:58</strong> Jensen's Hot Takes: Token Spending & AGI Claims</li><li><strong>00:13:54</strong> Is MCP Dead? The Protocol Nobody Needs</li><li><strong>00:16:35</strong> AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd</li><li><strong>00:21:32</strong> OpenCode Gives Money to Pie Contributors</li><li><strong>00:43:17</strong> Auto Research: The Night Shift AI Worker</li><li><strong>00:49:06</strong> Gia Framework: The Compiler Revolution</li><li><strong>00:55:02</strong> ChatGPT Ads & Data Selling Concerns</li><li><strong>01:05:51</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Muff Liquor Company</li><li><strong>01:15:21</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Us</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Muff Liquor Company: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://muffliquorcompany.com/">https://muffliquorcompany.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MCP (Model Context Protocol): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Auto Research: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/karpathy/auto-research">https://github.com/karpathy/auto-research</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ghostty: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ghostty.org/">https://ghostty.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CMUX: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cmux/cmux">https://github.com/cmux/cmux</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Peon Ping: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping">https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Railway: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://railway.app/">https://railway.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gea: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://geajs.com/">https://geajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Impeccable Design Skills: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://impeccable.style/">https://impeccable.style/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Radiant Shaders: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://radiantshaders.com/">https://radiantshaders.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Mitosis: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/builderio/mitosis">https://github.com/builderio/mitosis</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Diablo: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://diablo.blizzard.com/">https://diablo.blizzard.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Lucid Motors: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.lucidmotors.com/">https://www.lucidmotors.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">United Airlines Relax Row: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.united.com/">https://www.united.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" 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class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KPB9C94XRXTVKMJDRJ4EJ3VY/ai-herding-cows-fancy-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4611</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>240</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip on whiskey from the Muff Liquor Company and dive deep into the chaotic state of AI development, Jensen Huang&#39;s wild claims about AGI and token spending, and whether we&#39;ve accidentally turned developers into Ralph Wiggum loopers. They debate auto research workflows, day shift versus night shift coding strategies, the death of MCP servers, AI cow herding collars disrupting agriculture, and why Ghostty&#39;s Mitchell just joined Vercel&#39;s board. Along the way, they cover vertical terminal layouts, United&#39;s new relax row seating, OpenClaw&#39;s inability to follow instructions, and why scoring mechanisms might be the key to making AI actually useful.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp and Cloud Agents
00:01:19 AI Context Problems &amp; The AGI Debate
00:09:58 Jensen&#39;s Hot Takes: Token Spending &amp; AGI Claims
00:13:54 Is MCP Dead? The Protocol Nobody Needs
00:16:35 AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd
00:21:32 OpenCode Gives Money to Pie Contributors
00:43:17 Auto Research: The Night Shift AI Worker
00:49:06 Gia Framework: The Compiler Revolution
00:55:02 ChatGPT Ads &amp; Data Selling Concerns
01:05:51 Whiskey Tasting: Muff Liquor Company
01:15:21 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Us


Links





Muff Liquor Company: https://muffliquorcompany.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Pi: https://pi.ai/



MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Auto Research: https://github.com/karpathy/auto-research



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



CMUX: https://github.com/cmux/cmux



Peon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



Railway: https://railway.app/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Gea: https://geajs.com/



Impeccable Design Skills: https://impeccable.style/



Radiant Shaders: https://radiantshaders.com/



Mitosis: https://github.com/builderio/mitosis



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/



Lucid Motors: https://www.lucidmotors.com/



United Airlines Relax Row: https://www.united.com/

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Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KPB9AWWYT2Y2JFGQ19HR85H7/generated-image__6_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KPB9AWWYT2Y2JFGQ19HR85H7/generated-image__6_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KPB9AEE7RDTAW25QBWR5Y4N3/ai_cowgorithm_disrupts_the_herd/transcoded-01KPB9C42PGJWWZ8R3TDRXJ1CN-01KPB9C42PG22MKS24ZPTGWNWB_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KPB99MDPGPWZVA0MQAJGXRPK.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Flogging Margins With The Dropcap Murphys</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert from ShopTalk Show to talk brand truth versus brand slop, whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, the rise of dark factories, and why apps built in a weekend don&#39;t inspire trust. They dig into OpenClaw workflows, burn windows, agent browsers, the death of pointing and clicking, and whether we&#39;ve accidentally turned ourselves into energy vampires. Along the way, they cover hot pockets, men&#39;s cereal, border shape, and why caring about what you do might actually be a curse.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:05:30 Brand Truth vs Brand Slop: The AI Authenticity Debate
00:10:54 One-Shot Apps &amp; The Weekend Project Problem
00:18:15 CSS in the Age of AI: Does It Still Matter?
00:25:20 Live Demo: Claude Builds a Podcast Landing Page
00:29:37 Context Rot &amp; The Flogging Margins Problem
00:36:55 Dark Factories &amp; Code You Never Read
00:44:52 Energy Vampires &amp; AI Brain Fry
00:51:35 The 10,000 Watt GPU vs The 40 Watt Brain
01:24:10 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Everyone


Links





Green Spot Irish Whiskey: https://www.spotwhiskey.com/



Shop Talk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/



CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/



CodePen: https://codepen.io/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Bolt: https://bolt.new/



Lovable: https://lovable.dev/



Pi: https://pi.dev/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Playwright: https://playwright.dev/



Heretic: https://github.com/heretic-ai/heretic



Hydrogen: https://hydrogen.shopify.dev/



WordPress Playground: https://wordpress.org/playground/



Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Peon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



CMux: https://github.com/cmux/cmux



Border Shape: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-shape



Hot Pockets: https://www.hotpockets.com/

Connect with Chris





Website: https://chriscoyier.net/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/chriscoyier

Connect with Dave





Website: https://daverupert.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/davatron5000

Connect with the hosts





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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5ee97f63-6572-4cad-8763-79984a8042c7</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KNM4RY90VTR9CA6BY0BNBG93.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert from ShopTalk Show to talk brand truth versus brand slop, whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, the rise of dark factories, and why apps built in a weekend don't inspire trust. They dig into OpenClaw workflows, burn windows, agent browsers, the death of pointing and clicking, and whether we've accidentally turned ourselves into energy vampires. Along the way, they cover hot pockets, men's cereal, border shape, and why caring about what you do might actually be a curse.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:05:30</strong> Brand Truth vs Brand Slop: The AI Authenticity Debate</li><li><strong>00:10:54</strong> One-Shot Apps & The Weekend Project Problem</li><li><strong>00:18:15</strong> CSS in the Age of AI: Does It Still Matter?</li><li><strong>00:25:20</strong> Live Demo: Claude Builds a Podcast Landing Page</li><li><strong>00:29:37</strong> Context Rot & The Flogging Margins Problem</li><li><strong>00:36:55</strong> Dark Factories & Code You Never Read</li><li><strong>00:44:52</strong> Energy Vampires & AI Brain Fry</li><li><strong>00:51:35</strong> The 10,000 Watt GPU vs The 40 Watt Brain</li><li><strong>01:24:10</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Everyone</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Green Spot Irish Whiskey: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.spotwhiskey.com/">https://www.spotwhiskey.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shop Talk Show: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shoptalkshow.com/">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Tricks: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://css-tricks.com/">https://css-tricks.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CodePen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://codepen.io/">https://codepen.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bolt: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://bolt.new/">https://bolt.new/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Lovable: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://lovable.dev/">https://lovable.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://pi.dev/">https://pi.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Playwright: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://playwright.dev/">https://playwright.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Heretic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/heretic-ai/heretic">https://github.com/heretic-ai/heretic</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Hydrogen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://hydrogen.shopify.dev/">https://hydrogen.shopify.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">WordPress Playground: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://wordpress.org/playground/">https://wordpress.org/playground/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Docs: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://docs.google.com/">https://docs.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cloudflare: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cloudflare.com/">https://www.cloudflare.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Peon Ping: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping">https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CMux: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cmux/cmux">https://github.com/cmux/cmux</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Border Shape: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-shape">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-shape</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Hot Pockets: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.hotpockets.com/">https://www.hotpockets.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Chris</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://chriscoyier.net/">https://chriscoyier.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/chriscoyier">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Dave</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://daverupert.com/">https://daverupert.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/davatron5000">https://x.com/davatron5000</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Flogging Margins With The Dropcap Murphys</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KNNBYPGM2J6FBFR7JAFHX3SC/test-engraving-style-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>5173</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>239</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert from ShopTalk Show to talk brand truth versus brand slop, whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, the rise of dark factories, and why apps built in a weekend don&#39;t inspire trust. They dig into OpenClaw workflows, burn windows, agent browsers, the death of pointing and clicking, and whether we&#39;ve accidentally turned ourselves into energy vampires. Along the way, they cover hot pockets, men&#39;s cereal, border shape, and why caring about what you do might actually be a curse.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:05:30 Brand Truth vs Brand Slop: The AI Authenticity Debate
00:10:54 One-Shot Apps &amp; The Weekend Project Problem
00:18:15 CSS in the Age of AI: Does It Still Matter?
00:25:20 Live Demo: Claude Builds a Podcast Landing Page
00:29:37 Context Rot &amp; The Flogging Margins Problem
00:36:55 Dark Factories &amp; Code You Never Read
00:44:52 Energy Vampires &amp; AI Brain Fry
00:51:35 The 10,000 Watt GPU vs The 40 Watt Brain
01:24:10 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Everyone


Links





Green Spot Irish Whiskey: https://www.spotwhiskey.com/



Shop Talk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/



CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/



CodePen: https://codepen.io/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Bolt: https://bolt.new/



Lovable: https://lovable.dev/



Pi: https://pi.dev/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Playwright: https://playwright.dev/



Heretic: https://github.com/heretic-ai/heretic



Hydrogen: https://hydrogen.shopify.dev/



WordPress Playground: https://wordpress.org/playground/



Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Peon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



CMux: https://github.com/cmux/cmux



Border Shape: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-shape



Hot Pockets: https://www.hotpockets.com/

Connect with Chris





Website: https://chriscoyier.net/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/chriscoyier

Connect with Dave





Website: https://daverupert.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/davatron5000

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KNNC08XBZD2KFYCZA8F45R7W/generated-image__5_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KNNC08XBZD2KFYCZA8F45R7W/generated-image__5_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KNYS3F7NN4JR9G41Z3H2WS1Z/flogging_margins_with_the_dropcap_murphys/transcoded-01KNYS4X0172TFHPXSVB6T5CN3-01KNYS4X01G7MYR9SWDMKBWRBJ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KNM4RY90VTR9CA6BY0BNBG93.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Next.js Is Dead, Long Live Next.js! (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip Redwood Empire Pipe Dream and dive into the messy reality of AI development, PR reviews, and whether we&#39;re all just vibe coding our way into chaos. They debate 200-file PRs versus 10 smaller ones, the rise of YOLO mode versus step-by-step validation, Cloudflare rewriting Next.js in a week, and why T-shaped developers might need to become X-shaped generalists. Along the way, they cover dark factories, OpenClaw memory problems, the death of SaaS, Amazon&#39;s AI downtime panic, and why Slack might be the last product standing.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:34 Whiskey Tasting: Redwood Empire Pipe Dream
00:08:35 Would You Rather: PR Review Edition
00:16:51 Dark Factories &amp; AI-Only Code Review
00:28:15 CloudFlare Rewrites Next.js &amp; The Drama Unfolds
00:37:30 Block Layoffs &amp; The SaaS Apocalypse
00:46:19 Amazon&#39;s AI Pendulum: From Yolo to Slow Down
00:55:37 T-Shaped vs X-Shaped Developers
00:51:07 Delaying Gratification: Quality Over Speed
01:04:37 Evil AI Tools: Fake Testimonials &amp; Heretic
01:09:15 Wrap Up &amp; Diablo Nostalgia


Links





Redwood Empire Pipe Dream: https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



GitHub CLI: https://cli.github.com/



Graphite: https://graphite.dev/



Git Butler: https://gitbutler.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data



CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Slack: https://slack.com/



Launch Darkly: https://launchdarkly.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/



Block: https://block.xyz/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/



Arcads.ai: https://arcads.ai/



Effect.oh: https://effect.oh/



Heretic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)



Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/



Hexen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen



Cap: https://cap.so/



Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">df0c7234-a6dd-4336-b14f-38bad39cfdeb</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KMNF18QCENY2JXE3P4F6XHFM.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip Redwood Empire Pipe Dream and dive into the messy reality of AI development, PR reviews, and whether we're all just vibe coding our way into chaos. They debate 200-file PRs versus 10 smaller ones, the rise of YOLO mode versus step-by-step validation, Cloudflare rewriting Next.js in a week, and why T-shaped developers might need to become X-shaped generalists. Along the way, they cover dark factories, OpenClaw memory problems, the death of SaaS, Amazon's AI downtime panic, and why Slack might be the last product standing.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:34</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Redwood Empire Pipe Dream</li><li><strong>00:08:35</strong> Would You Rather: PR Review Edition</li><li><strong>00:16:51</strong> Dark Factories & AI-Only Code Review</li><li><strong>00:28:15</strong> CloudFlare Rewrites Next.js & The Drama Unfolds</li><li><strong>00:37:30</strong> Block Layoffs & The SaaS Apocalypse</li><li><strong>00:46:19</strong> Amazon's AI Pendulum: From Yolo to Slow Down</li><li><strong>00:55:37</strong> T-Shaped vs X-Shaped Developers</li><li><strong>00:51:07</strong> Delaying Gratification: Quality Over Speed</li><li><strong>01:04:37</strong> Evil AI Tools: Fake Testimonials & Heretic</li><li><strong>01:09:15</strong> Wrap Up & Diablo Nostalgia</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Redwood Empire Pipe Dream: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/">https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cloudflare: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cloudflare.com/">https://www.cloudflare.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vercel: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub CLI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cli.github.com/">https://cli.github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Graphite: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://graphite.dev/">https://graphite.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Git Butler: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gitbutler.com/">https://gitbutler.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember Data: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/emberjs/data">https://github.com/emberjs/data</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CodeRabbit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://coderabbit.ai/">https://coderabbit.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Slack: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://slack.com/">https://slack.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Launch Darkly: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://launchdarkly.com/">https://launchdarkly.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Amazon: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.amazon.com/">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Block: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://block.xyz/">https://block.xyz/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Post Bridge: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://postbridge.io/">https://postbridge.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Arcads.ai: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://arcads.ai/">https://arcads.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Effect.oh: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://effect.oh/">https://effect.oh/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Heretic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Diablo: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://diablo.blizzard.com/">https://diablo.blizzard.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Hexen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cap: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cap.so/">https://cap.so/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Nerdy.dev: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nerdy.dev/">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Next.js Is Dead, Long Live Next.js! (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KN5E9EDVBB3M9ZS60KQ71K0P/whiskey-summit-corrected-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4412</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>238</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip Redwood Empire Pipe Dream and dive into the messy reality of AI development, PR reviews, and whether we&#39;re all just vibe coding our way into chaos. They debate 200-file PRs versus 10 smaller ones, the rise of YOLO mode versus step-by-step validation, Cloudflare rewriting Next.js in a week, and why T-shaped developers might need to become X-shaped generalists. Along the way, they cover dark factories, OpenClaw memory problems, the death of SaaS, Amazon&#39;s AI downtime panic, and why Slack might be the last product standing.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:34 Whiskey Tasting: Redwood Empire Pipe Dream
00:08:35 Would You Rather: PR Review Edition
00:16:51 Dark Factories &amp; AI-Only Code Review
00:28:15 CloudFlare Rewrites Next.js &amp; The Drama Unfolds
00:37:30 Block Layoffs &amp; The SaaS Apocalypse
00:46:19 Amazon&#39;s AI Pendulum: From Yolo to Slow Down
00:55:37 T-Shaped vs X-Shaped Developers
00:51:07 Delaying Gratification: Quality Over Speed
01:04:37 Evil AI Tools: Fake Testimonials &amp; Heretic
01:09:15 Wrap Up &amp; Diablo Nostalgia


Links





Redwood Empire Pipe Dream: https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Vercel: https://vercel.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



GitHub CLI: https://cli.github.com/



Graphite: https://graphite.dev/



Git Butler: https://gitbutler.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data



CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Slack: https://slack.com/



Launch Darkly: https://launchdarkly.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/



Block: https://block.xyz/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/



Arcads.ai: https://arcads.ai/



Effect.oh: https://effect.oh/



Heretic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)



Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/



Hexen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen



Cap: https://cap.so/



Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KN596KY01AR48KT42BDZNFJH/generated-image__3_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KN596KY01AR48KT42BDZNFJH/generated-image__3_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KMNF22GVCVGN612G7WRDQNVX/next/transcoded-01KMNF3P39F3FTMWDC4TASM6A3-01KMNF3P39T8XW26CTAX3G6CMF_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KMNF18QCENY2JXE3P4F6XHFM.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The Transactional Trap: How 97% of Developers Are Using AI Wrong w/ Leon Noel &amp; Danny Thompson</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Leon Noel and Danny Thompson to talk AI workflows, agentic development, and whether the job of coding has fundamentally changed. They dig into prompt engineering, mental models, OpenClaw setups, the rise of harnesses and orchestration layers, and why testing in production might actually be fine. Along the way, they debate git rebase versus git merge, the death of LeetCode interviews, why Cursor feels different than Copilot, and whether Pokemon Go is still thriving in 2026.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:55 Whiskey Tasting: Matsui Single Cask Sakura
00:14:11 Hot Takes: Git Rebase vs Git Merge
00:20:30 The AI Revolution: From Skepticism to Adoption
00:23:21 OpenClaw Deep Dive: AI Agents While You Sleep
00:49:05 Cursor Web &amp; Long-Running Agents
00:35:58 The Mental Model Problem: How Most Devs Use AI Wrong
00:55:44 AI Prompting Masterclass: Tips from the Experts
01:11:47 Code Review with AI: SLMs, Bug Bot &amp; Snyk
00:32:47 Breaking Into Tech &amp; The Future of Junior Developers
01:16:36 Pokemon Go Nostalgia &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Matsui Single Malt Sakura Cask: https://dewinespot.co/products/matsui-single-malt-sakura-cask



100 Devs: https://leonnoel.com/100devs/



Resilient Coders: https://www.resilientcoders.org/



Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/



OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Codex 5.3: https://openai.com/



Snyk: https://snyk.io/



Bug Bot: https://bugbot.ai/



Reptile: https://reptile.ai/



CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Antigravity: https://antigravity.dev/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Atlassian Forge: https://developer.atlassian.com/platform/forge/



Rovo Dev: https://www.atlassian.com/software/rovo



HackerRank: https://www.hackerrank.com/



Playwright: https://playwright.dev/



Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/



Commit Your Code Conference: https://commityourcode.com/

Connect with Leon





Website: https://leonnoel.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/leonnoel

Connect with Danny





Website: https://www.dthompsondev.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/DThompsonDev

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f3a410cc-b97a-4002-9ab7-19f3c185518b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KMG177AQNGDAD37JRK4HK2B0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Leon Noel and Danny Thompson to talk AI workflows, agentic development, and whether the job of coding has fundamentally changed. They dig into prompt engineering, mental models, OpenClaw setups, the rise of harnesses and orchestration layers, and why testing in production might actually be fine. Along the way, they debate git rebase versus git merge, the death of LeetCode interviews, why Cursor feels different than Copilot, and whether Pokemon Go is still thriving in 2026.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:55</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Matsui Single Cask Sakura</li><li><strong>00:14:11</strong> Hot Takes: Git Rebase vs Git Merge</li><li><strong>00:20:30</strong> The AI Revolution: From Skepticism to Adoption</li><li><strong>00:23:21</strong> OpenClaw Deep Dive: AI Agents While You Sleep</li><li><strong>00:49:05</strong> Cursor Web & Long-Running Agents</li><li><strong>00:35:58</strong> The Mental Model Problem: How Most Devs Use AI Wrong</li><li><strong>00:55:44</strong> AI Prompting Masterclass: Tips from the Experts</li><li><strong>01:11:47</strong> Code Review with AI: SLMs, Bug Bot & Snyk</li><li><strong>00:32:47</strong> Breaking Into Tech & The Future of Junior Developers</li><li><strong>01:16:36</strong> Pokemon Go Nostalgia & Wrap Up</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Matsui Single Malt Sakura Cask: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://dewinespot.co/products/matsui-single-malt-sakura-cask">https://dewinespot.co/products/matsui-single-malt-sakura-cask</a></li><li class="list-item-node">100 Devs: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://leonnoel.com/100devs/">https://leonnoel.com/100devs/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Resilient Coders: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.resilientcoders.org/">https://www.resilientcoders.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Atlassian: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.atlassian.com/">https://www.atlassian.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://openclaw.ai/">https://openclaw.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Codex 5.3: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Snyk: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://snyk.io/">https://snyk.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bug Bot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://bugbot.ai/">https://bugbot.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Reptile: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://reptile.ai/">https://reptile.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CodeRabbit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://coderabbit.ai/">https://coderabbit.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Antigravity: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://antigravity.dev/">https://antigravity.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Atlassian Forge: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://developer.atlassian.com/platform/forge/">https://developer.atlassian.com/platform/forge/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rovo Dev: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.atlassian.com/software/rovo">https://www.atlassian.com/software/rovo</a></li><li class="list-item-node">HackerRank: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.hackerrank.com/">https://www.hackerrank.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Playwright: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://playwright.dev/">https://playwright.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pokemon Go: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pokemongolive.com/">https://pokemongolive.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Commit Your Code Conference: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://commityourcode.com/">https://commityourcode.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Leon</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://leonnoel.com/">https://leonnoel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/leonnoel">https://x.com/leonnoel</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Danny</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.dthompsondev.com/">https://www.dthompsondev.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/DThompsonDev">https://x.com/DThompsonDev</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/chuckcarpenter">https://x.com/chuckcarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Transactional Trap: How 97% of Developers Are Using AI Wrong w/ Leon Noel &amp; Danny Thompson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KMG4N38XGWW0V3FJYDH5TAS5/pokemon-openclaw-final-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>5138</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>237</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Leon Noel and Danny Thompson to talk AI workflows, agentic development, and whether the job of coding has fundamentally changed. They dig into prompt engineering, mental models, OpenClaw setups, the rise of harnesses and orchestration layers, and why testing in production might actually be fine. Along the way, they debate git rebase versus git merge, the death of LeetCode interviews, why Cursor feels different than Copilot, and whether Pokemon Go is still thriving in 2026.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:55 Whiskey Tasting: Matsui Single Cask Sakura
00:14:11 Hot Takes: Git Rebase vs Git Merge
00:20:30 The AI Revolution: From Skepticism to Adoption
00:23:21 OpenClaw Deep Dive: AI Agents While You Sleep
00:49:05 Cursor Web &amp; Long-Running Agents
00:35:58 The Mental Model Problem: How Most Devs Use AI Wrong
00:55:44 AI Prompting Masterclass: Tips from the Experts
01:11:47 Code Review with AI: SLMs, Bug Bot &amp; Snyk
00:32:47 Breaking Into Tech &amp; The Future of Junior Developers
01:16:36 Pokemon Go Nostalgia &amp; Wrap Up


Links





Matsui Single Malt Sakura Cask: https://dewinespot.co/products/matsui-single-malt-sakura-cask



100 Devs: https://leonnoel.com/100devs/



Resilient Coders: https://www.resilientcoders.org/



Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/



OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Codex 5.3: https://openai.com/



Snyk: https://snyk.io/



Bug Bot: https://bugbot.ai/



Reptile: https://reptile.ai/



CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Antigravity: https://antigravity.dev/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Atlassian Forge: https://developer.atlassian.com/platform/forge/



Rovo Dev: https://www.atlassian.com/software/rovo



HackerRank: https://www.hackerrank.com/



Playwright: https://playwright.dev/



Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/



Commit Your Code Conference: https://commityourcode.com/

Connect with Leon





Website: https://leonnoel.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/leonnoel

Connect with Danny





Website: https://www.dthompsondev.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/DThompsonDev

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KMG4AV6Y82HTYY27H4GJFJYJ/generated-image__2_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KMG4AV6Y82HTYY27H4GJFJYJ/generated-image__2_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KMG17F1CNEFHHN8KF4KM6GZW/two_podcasts_four_cups/transcoded-01KMG1995Y7X5S932VPWEM773X-01KMG1995YM88YVADN3F1PNVMJ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KMG177AQNGDAD37JRK4HK2B0.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The Manager Has Become The Managed (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sit down with Amelia Wattenberger—digital creative, product builder, and former principal research engineer at GitHub—to talk about AI agents, the death of chatbots, and whether typing code is officially over. They dig into the exhausting pace of AI tooling, why specs still aren&#39;t taking off, the anxiety of being managed by your own bots, and how Amelia&#39;s new project Intent is bundling workspaces, agents, and browsers into one cohesive developer experience. Along the way, they debate voice coding, the loss of craft, rubber duck debugging in the age of Claude, and why slowing down might be the only way to go fast.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:06 Whiskey Tasting: Jypsi Explorer Bourbon
00:09:00 Were AI Chatbots a Mistake?
00:18:49 The Manager Has Become The Managed
00:27:39 The Death of the Craft &amp; The New Loop
00:37:07 Voice vs Typing: The Future of Input
00:41:51 Intent: Rethinking Developer Workspaces
00:44:39 Spectrum Development &amp; Agent Orchestration
00:51:49 Building Across Platforms &amp; Custom Keyboards
01:03:24 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Intent


Links





Jypsi Explorer: https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/



Eric Church: https://www.ericchurch.com/



Dreamweaver: https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html



Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Intent: https://intent.ai/



Augment Code: https://www.augmentcode.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Zed: https://zed.dev/



Figma: https://www.figma.com/



Webflow: https://webflow.com/



VSCode: https://code.visualstudio.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/

Connect with Amelia





Website: https://wattenberger.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/Wattenberger

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cb9432ec-c2f3-4134-afdf-909370f3c1ea</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KKAMTM2NNZKP52KH62573M0E.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sit down with Amelia Wattenberger—digital creative, product builder, and former principal research engineer at GitHub—to talk about AI agents, the death of chatbots, and whether typing code is officially over. They dig into the exhausting pace of AI tooling, why specs still aren't taking off, the anxiety of being managed by your own bots, and how Amelia's new project Intent is bundling workspaces, agents, and browsers into one cohesive developer experience. Along the way, they debate voice coding, the loss of craft, rubber duck debugging in the age of Claude, and why slowing down might be the only way to go fast.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:06</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Jypsi Explorer Bourbon</li><li><strong>00:09:00</strong> Were AI Chatbots a Mistake?</li><li><strong>00:18:49</strong> The Manager Has Become The Managed</li><li><strong>00:27:39</strong> The Death of the Craft & The New Loop</li><li><strong>00:37:07</strong> Voice vs Typing: The Future of Input</li><li><strong>00:41:51</strong> Intent: Rethinking Developer Workspaces</li><li><strong>00:44:39</strong> Spectrum Development & Agent Orchestration</li><li><strong>00:51:49</strong> Building Across Platforms & Custom Keyboards</li><li><strong>01:03:24</strong> Wrap Up & Where to Find Intent</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Jypsi Explorer: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/">https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Eric Church: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ericchurch.com/">https://www.ericchurch.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Dreamweaver: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html">https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rent a Human: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://rentahuman.ai/">https://rentahuman.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Intent: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://intent.ai/">https://intent.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Augment Code: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.augmentcode.com/">https://www.augmentcode.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swach: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/">https://www.swach.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Zed: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://zed.dev/">https://zed.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Figma: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.figma.com/">https://www.figma.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Webflow: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://webflow.com/">https://webflow.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">VSCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Elgato: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.elgato.com/">https://www.elgato.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Linux: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linux.org/">https://www.linux.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Reddit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reddit.com/">https://www.reddit.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Amelia</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://wattenberger.com/">https://wattenberger.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/Wattenberger">https://x.com/Wattenberger</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Manager Has Become The Managed (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KKAPVEYW1S2W6F4W5NQ2V5EC/ai-spec-review-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3929</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>236</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sit down with Amelia Wattenberger—digital creative, product builder, and former principal research engineer at GitHub—to talk about AI agents, the death of chatbots, and whether typing code is officially over. They dig into the exhausting pace of AI tooling, why specs still aren&#39;t taking off, the anxiety of being managed by your own bots, and how Amelia&#39;s new project Intent is bundling workspaces, agents, and browsers into one cohesive developer experience. Along the way, they debate voice coding, the loss of craft, rubber duck debugging in the age of Claude, and why slowing down might be the only way to go fast.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:06 Whiskey Tasting: Jypsi Explorer Bourbon
00:09:00 Were AI Chatbots a Mistake?
00:18:49 The Manager Has Become The Managed
00:27:39 The Death of the Craft &amp; The New Loop
00:37:07 Voice vs Typing: The Future of Input
00:41:51 Intent: Rethinking Developer Workspaces
00:44:39 Spectrum Development &amp; Agent Orchestration
00:51:49 Building Across Platforms &amp; Custom Keyboards
01:03:24 Wrap Up &amp; Where to Find Intent


Links





Jypsi Explorer: https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/



Eric Church: https://www.ericchurch.com/



Dreamweaver: https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html



Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude: https://claude.ai/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Intent: https://intent.ai/



Augment Code: https://www.augmentcode.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Zed: https://zed.dev/



Figma: https://www.figma.com/



Webflow: https://webflow.com/



VSCode: https://code.visualstudio.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/

Connect with Amelia





Website: https://wattenberger.com/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/Wattenberger

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KKAP2KMJEYKE6BASPHW83XDB/generated-image__1_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KKAP2KMJEYKE6BASPHW83XDB/generated-image__1_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KKAMV8YB6JRVRCJMP8FYJ9ZQ/the_manager_has_become_the_managed/transcoded-01KKAN03Q3S57BHBP0VSXN50H9-01KKAN03Q3A6TAKBF32GQNH1QK_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KKAMTM2NNZKP52KH62573M0E.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Hot Pockets Pro Max (Presented by Warp)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip a rare Single Malts of Scotland 12-year Hogshead release and dive into the world of AI-powered development, OpenClaw setups, and why hot pockets might be the perfect metaphor for where tech is headed. They explore the state of JavaScript survey, debate whether specs are the future of coding, discuss running AI agents on gaming PCs in the basement, and why owning your own data feels punk. Along the way, they cover burn windows, token optimization, prompt injection risks, liberating data from walled gardens, and whether we&#39;re all just vibe coders now.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:01:44 Whiskey Tasting: Single Malts of Scotland
00:10:52 State of JavaScript 2024 Discussion
00:08:26 Hot Pockets Pro Max: AI Hype Satire
00:16:46 OpenClaw Deep Dive: Setup &amp; Security
00:32:27 AI Coding Models: Claude vs OpenAI
00:36:07 OpenClaw Acquisition &amp; The Future of AI Assistants
00:40:00 Personal AI Workflows &amp; Data Liberation
00:51:27 The Future of Development Jobs
01:08:06 Tools &amp; Recommendations: Deno KV, Solo Term &amp; SuperCode
01:10:35 Whatnot: Mega Man Jetpacks &amp; AI Gorillas


Links





Single Malts of Scotland: https://www.singlemaltwhisky.com/



State of JavaScript: https://stateofjs.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Iron Claw: https://github.com/iron-claw/iron-claw



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Venice AI: https://venice.ai/



Peon Ping (Warcraft sounds): https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



Solo Term: https://soloterm.sh/



Supercode: https://supercode.sh/



Deno KV: https://deno.com/kv



Railway: https://railway.app/



Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/



Tailscale: https://tailscale.com/



Untappd: https://untappd.com/



Ultimate Guitar: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/



Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Code Rabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Katamari Damacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy



To a T (game): https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738550/To_a_T/



Bob&#39;s Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers



Benihana: https://www.benihana.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler



Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1ea7bf62-4118-41cd-bab8-226278b93eeb</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KJRWTWCSCDXMFPH9M8EE5189.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip a rare Single Malts of Scotland 12-year Hogshead release and dive into the world of AI-powered development, OpenClaw setups, and why hot pockets might be the perfect metaphor for where tech is headed. They explore the state of JavaScript survey, debate whether specs are the future of coding, discuss running AI agents on gaming PCs in the basement, and why owning your own data feels punk. Along the way, they cover burn windows, token optimization, prompt injection risks, liberating data from walled gardens, and whether we're all just vibe coders now.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/oz">https://www.warp.dev/oz</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:01:44</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Single Malts of Scotland</li><li><strong>00:10:52</strong> State of JavaScript 2024 Discussion</li><li><strong>00:08:26</strong> Hot Pockets Pro Max: AI Hype Satire</li><li><strong>00:16:46</strong> OpenClaw Deep Dive: Setup & Security</li><li><strong>00:32:27</strong> AI Coding Models: Claude vs OpenAI</li><li><strong>00:36:07</strong> OpenClaw Acquisition & The Future of AI Assistants</li><li><strong>00:40:00</strong> Personal AI Workflows & Data Liberation</li><li><strong>00:51:27</strong> The Future of Development Jobs</li><li><strong>01:08:06</strong> Tools & Recommendations: Deno KV, Solo Term & SuperCode</li><li><strong>01:10:35</strong> Whatnot: Mega Man Jetpacks & AI Gorillas</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Single Malts of Scotland: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.singlemaltwhisky.com/">https://www.singlemaltwhisky.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">State of JavaScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://stateofjs.com/">https://stateofjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Iron Claw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/iron-claw/iron-claw">https://github.com/iron-claw/iron-claw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Venice AI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://venice.ai/">https://venice.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Peon Ping (Warcraft sounds): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping">https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solo Term: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://soloterm.sh/">https://soloterm.sh/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Supercode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://supercode.sh/">https://supercode.sh/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Deno KV: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://deno.com/kv">https://deno.com/kv</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Railway: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://railway.app/">https://railway.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Netlify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.netlify.com/">https://www.netlify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailscale: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tailscale.com/">https://tailscale.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Untappd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://untappd.com/">https://untappd.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ultimate Guitar: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/">https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Calendar: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://calendar.google.com/">https://calendar.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Code Rabbit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://coderabbit.ai/">https://coderabbit.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Katamari Damacy: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy</a></li><li class="list-item-node">To a T (game): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738550/To_a_T/">https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738550/To_a_T/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bob's Burgers: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Benihana: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.benihana.com/">https://www.benihana.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ken Wheeler: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Primeagen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Pockets Pro Max (Presented by Warp)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJT2SMR11C30NT9BR2PYYF5A/apple-colors-hot-pocket-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4529</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>235</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip a rare Single Malts of Scotland 12-year Hogshead release and dive into the world of AI-powered development, OpenClaw setups, and why hot pockets might be the perfect metaphor for where tech is headed. They explore the state of JavaScript survey, debate whether specs are the future of coding, discuss running AI agents on gaming PCs in the basement, and why owning your own data feels punk. Along the way, they cover burn windows, token optimization, prompt injection risks, liberating data from walled gardens, and whether we&#39;re all just vibe coders now.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:01:44 Whiskey Tasting: Single Malts of Scotland
00:10:52 State of JavaScript 2024 Discussion
00:08:26 Hot Pockets Pro Max: AI Hype Satire
00:16:46 OpenClaw Deep Dive: Setup &amp; Security
00:32:27 AI Coding Models: Claude vs OpenAI
00:36:07 OpenClaw Acquisition &amp; The Future of AI Assistants
00:40:00 Personal AI Workflows &amp; Data Liberation
00:51:27 The Future of Development Jobs
01:08:06 Tools &amp; Recommendations: Deno KV, Solo Term &amp; SuperCode
01:10:35 Whatnot: Mega Man Jetpacks &amp; AI Gorillas


Links





Single Malts of Scotland: https://www.singlemaltwhisky.com/



State of JavaScript: https://stateofjs.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Iron Claw: https://github.com/iron-claw/iron-claw



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Venice AI: https://venice.ai/



Peon Ping (Warcraft sounds): https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-ping



Solo Term: https://soloterm.sh/



Supercode: https://supercode.sh/



Deno KV: https://deno.com/kv



Railway: https://railway.app/



Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/



Tailscale: https://tailscale.com/



Untappd: https://untappd.com/



Ultimate Guitar: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/



Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



Code Rabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/



Katamari Damacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy



To a T (game): https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738550/To_a_T/



Bob&#39;s Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers



Benihana: https://www.benihana.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler



Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJT30QQX2MMC2KYJHGBT6PXE/generated-image.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJT30QQX2MMC2KYJHGBT6PXE/generated-image.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJRWVMRRHHBH8T3K8MSB9N1P/hot_pockets_pro_max/transcoded-01KJRX2W07TPB5E280D03NVYRF-01KJRX2W07N10RTF0X9QKAA01N_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KJRWTWCSCDXMFPH9M8EE5189.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Pay No Attention to the LLM Behind the Terminal w/ Zach Lloyd</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip Lagavulin 16 and catch up with Zach Lloyd—founder and CEO of Warp—about building the modern terminal, shipping AI agents to the cloud, and why editing text like it&#39;s 2026 should be the bare minimum. They dig into why Warp feels like the only terminal that just works, how AI is changing the way senior engineers code, the rise of agentic orchestration, and why tmux users are the hardest to convert. Along the way, they cover computer use models, agent memory, multi-threaded prompting, and why your laptop is officially not ready for this.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:03:20 Whiskey Tasting: Lagavulin 16
00:07:07 What is Warp?
00:09:30 Warp&#39;s Standout Features
00:13:48 AI Agents in Development Workflows
00:17:12 The Terminal as the Future of Development
00:21:35 Real-World Agent Usage &amp; Productivity
00:25:17 Multi-Agent Systems &amp; Orchestration
00:43:16 Moving to the Cloud &amp; Warp Oz
00:54:38 The Future of AI Development &amp; Competition


Links





Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/



Google Sheets: https://sheets.google.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



Railway: https://railway.app/



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/



Mermaid: https://mermaid.js.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



tmux: https://github.com/tmux/tmux



Zed: https://zed.dev/



Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira



Python: https://www.python.org/



Mythical Man-Month: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/

Connect with Zach





X / Twitter: https://x.com/zachlloydtweets



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4f91287c-7e02-4b11-b42a-f46fb3e37d93</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KHKK3FP1Z3CCV445VHM9E6SR.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip Lagavulin 16 and catch up with Zach Lloyd—founder and CEO of Warp—about building the modern terminal, shipping AI agents to the cloud, and why editing text like it's 2026 should be the bare minimum. They dig into why Warp feels like the only terminal that just works, how AI is changing the way senior engineers code, the rise of agentic orchestration, and why tmux users are the hardest to convert. Along the way, they cover computer use models, agent memory, multi-threaded prompting, and why your laptop is officially not ready for this.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:03:20</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Lagavulin 16</li><li><strong>00:07:07</strong> What is Warp?</li><li><strong>00:09:30</strong> Warp's Standout Features</li><li><strong>00:13:48</strong> AI Agents in Development Workflows</li><li><strong>00:17:12</strong> The Terminal as the Future of Development</li><li><strong>00:21:35</strong> Real-World Agent Usage & Productivity</li><li><strong>00:25:17</strong> Multi-Agent Systems & Orchestration</li><li><strong>00:43:16</strong> Moving to the Cloud & Warp Oz</li><li><strong>00:54:38</strong> The Future of AI Development & Competition</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Lagavulin 16: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/">https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Docs: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://docs.google.com/">https://docs.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Sheets: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://sheets.google.com/">https://sheets.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Codex: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/">https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Railway: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://railway.app/">https://railway.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ghostty: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://ghostty.org/">https://ghostty.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">SolidJS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Mermaid: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://mermaid.js.org/">https://mermaid.js.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gemini: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gemini.google.com/">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">tmux: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/tmux/tmux">https://github.com/tmux/tmux</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Zed: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://zed.dev/">https://zed.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember Data: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/emberjs/data">https://github.com/emberjs/data</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jira: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira">https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.python.org/">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Mythical Man-Month: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CascadiaJS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Zach</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/zachlloydtweets">https://x.com/zachlloydtweets</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Pay No Attention to the LLM Behind the Terminal w/ Zach Lloyd</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KHKY2WAN8EXSWW4AHS11YQNZ/modern-terminal-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4004</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>234</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip Lagavulin 16 and catch up with Zach Lloyd—founder and CEO of Warp—about building the modern terminal, shipping AI agents to the cloud, and why editing text like it&#39;s 2026 should be the bare minimum. They dig into why Warp feels like the only terminal that just works, how AI is changing the way senior engineers code, the rise of agentic orchestration, and why tmux users are the hardest to convert. Along the way, they cover computer use models, agent memory, multi-threaded prompting, and why your laptop is officially not ready for this.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:03:20 Whiskey Tasting: Lagavulin 16
00:07:07 What is Warp?
00:09:30 Warp&#39;s Standout Features
00:13:48 AI Agents in Development Workflows
00:17:12 The Terminal as the Future of Development
00:21:35 Real-World Agent Usage &amp; Productivity
00:25:17 Multi-Agent Systems &amp; Orchestration
00:43:16 Moving to the Cloud &amp; Warp Oz
00:54:38 The Future of AI Development &amp; Competition


Links





Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/



Google Sheets: https://sheets.google.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/



Railway: https://railway.app/



Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/



Mermaid: https://mermaid.js.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



tmux: https://github.com/tmux/tmux



Zed: https://zed.dev/



Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira



Python: https://www.python.org/



Mythical Man-Month: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/

Connect with Zach





X / Twitter: https://x.com/zachlloydtweets



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KHKXVS8DQTXCZ40J6Y8DWE1W/generated-image__4_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KHKXVS8DQTXCZ40J6Y8DWE1W/generated-image__4_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJRVMV4BC6EAN2AG1VSZDHGD/pay_no_attention_to_the_llm_behind_the_terminal__1_/transcoded-01KJRW21ZE6Y2CHN1Q4GB3AW0S-01KJRW21ZEH0T9H3YK760YRQ0D_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KHKK3FP1Z3CCV445VHM9E6SR.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Humans Are Now Legacy Dependencies</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam sip High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye and dive deep into the current state of AI development tools, the rise of agentic workflows, and whether humans are becoming legacy dependencies in their own systems. They explore OpenClaw (formerly ClawdBot), the philosophy behind Pi&#39;s minimalist agent approach, malleable software, and why SaaS products might be in trouble. Along the way, they debate meme coins, polymarket betting, the death of software-as-a-service, and what happens when AI agents start talking to each other on social media.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:53 Whiskey Tasting: High and Wicked Straight Rye
00:07:36 Setting Up OpenClaw: The AI Agent Revolution
00:11:29 GitHub Agents &amp; Mobile Workflows
00:15:44 The AI Landscape: Claude vs OpenAI vs Emerging Models
00:19:23 Pi &amp; The Philosophy of Minimal AI
00:19:49 Whiskey Rating &amp; The Future of Work
00:39:39 AI Agents Talking to Each Other: Notebook LM
00:45:01 Rent-a-Human.ai &amp; The Gig Economy Future
00:52:38 Malleable Software &amp; The Death of SaaS


Links





High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye: https://highandwicked.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Railway: https://railway.app/



GitHub Agents: https://github.com/features/agents



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/



MoltBook: https://www.moltbook.com/



RentAHuman.ai: https://rentahuman.ai/



Polymarket: https://polymarket.com/



Uber: https://www.uber.com/



Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/



Theo - t3.gg: https://t3.gg/



Meticulous: https://meticulous.ai/



Tesla Model X: https://www.tesla.com/modelx



Jim Beam: https://www.jimbeam.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a3aa1680-2cb4-4911-bcc4-482faaccd999</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KH9ATYQMQVHT92X6TM3H31FC.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye and dive deep into the current state of AI development tools, the rise of agentic workflows, and whether humans are becoming legacy dependencies in their own systems. They explore OpenClaw (formerly ClawdBot), the philosophy behind Pi's minimalist agent approach, malleable software, and why SaaS products might be in trouble. Along the way, they debate meme coins, polymarket betting, the death of software-as-a-service, and what happens when AI agents start talking to each other on social media.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:53</strong> Whiskey Tasting: High and Wicked Straight Rye</li><li><strong>00:07:36</strong> Setting Up OpenClaw: The AI Agent Revolution</li><li><strong>00:11:29</strong> GitHub Agents & Mobile Workflows</li><li><strong>00:15:44</strong> The AI Landscape: Claude vs OpenAI vs Emerging Models</li><li><strong>00:19:23</strong> Pi & The Philosophy of Minimal AI</li><li><strong>00:19:49</strong> Whiskey Rating & The Future of Work</li><li><strong>00:39:39</strong> AI Agents Talking to Each Other: Notebook LM</li><li><strong>00:45:01</strong> Rent-a-Human.ai & The Gig Economy Future</li><li><strong>00:52:38</strong> Malleable Software & The Death of SaaS</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://highandwicked.com/">https://highandwicked.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenClaw: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/cncf/openclaw">https://github.com/cncf/openclaw</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pi: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://pi.ai/">https://pi.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Railway: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://railway.app/">https://railway.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub Agents: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/agents">https://github.com/features/agents</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Qwen: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://qwenlm.github.io/">https://qwenlm.github.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MoltBook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.moltbook.com/">https://www.moltbook.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">RentAHuman.ai: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://rentahuman.ai/">https://rentahuman.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Polymarket: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://polymarket.com/">https://polymarket.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Uber: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.uber.com/">https://www.uber.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Uber Eats: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.ubereats.com/">https://www.ubereats.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Theo - t3.gg: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://t3.gg/">https://t3.gg/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Meticulous: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://meticulous.ai/">https://meticulous.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tesla Model X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.tesla.com/modelx">https://www.tesla.com/modelx</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jim Beam: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.jimbeam.com/">https://www.jimbeam.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CascadiaJS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Render ATL: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.renderatl.com/">https://www.renderatl.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/chuckcarpenter">https://x.com/chuckcarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Humans Are Now Legacy Dependencies</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KH9SHTAHXX7G38TKAN134QRP/ai-mechanical-drugs-colorful-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3901</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>233</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye and dive deep into the current state of AI development tools, the rise of agentic workflows, and whether humans are becoming legacy dependencies in their own systems. They explore OpenClaw (formerly ClawdBot), the philosophy behind Pi&#39;s minimalist agent approach, malleable software, and why SaaS products might be in trouble. Along the way, they debate meme coins, polymarket betting, the death of software-as-a-service, and what happens when AI agents start talking to each other on social media.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:53 Whiskey Tasting: High and Wicked Straight Rye
00:07:36 Setting Up OpenClaw: The AI Agent Revolution
00:11:29 GitHub Agents &amp; Mobile Workflows
00:15:44 The AI Landscape: Claude vs OpenAI vs Emerging Models
00:19:23 Pi &amp; The Philosophy of Minimal AI
00:19:49 Whiskey Rating &amp; The Future of Work
00:39:39 AI Agents Talking to Each Other: Notebook LM
00:45:01 Rent-a-Human.ai &amp; The Gig Economy Future
00:52:38 Malleable Software &amp; The Death of SaaS


Links





High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye: https://highandwicked.com/



OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw



Pi: https://pi.ai/



Railway: https://railway.app/



GitHub Agents: https://github.com/features/agents



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



OpenAI: https://openai.com/



Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/



MoltBook: https://www.moltbook.com/



RentAHuman.ai: https://rentahuman.ai/



Polymarket: https://polymarket.com/



Uber: https://www.uber.com/



Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/



Theo - t3.gg: https://t3.gg/



Meticulous: https://meticulous.ai/



Tesla Model X: https://www.tesla.com/modelx



Jim Beam: https://www.jimbeam.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KH9S3SANYYVDDR1MJRKWBM99/generated-image__3_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KH9S3SANYYVDDR1MJRKWBM99/generated-image__3_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KJBSX321KPKEGBJK3K8D9TVK/humas_are_now_legacy_dependencies/transcoded-01KJBSY6YWK3EM9H0G14T7G138-01KJBSY6YWMNGTMJ7M43X6MR8C_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KH9ATYQMQVHT92X6TM3H31FC.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>We Fired the Tools: No Ralph Wiggum, No Training Wheels, Just Agents</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk winter storms, snow blowers, and autonomous yard work before diving into the real topic: AI agents gone wild. They debate why Ralph Wiggum loops don&#39;t actually work, whether context pollution is killing productivity, the rise and fall of MCP servers and skills, and why vanilla Claude might be the only tool you actually need. Along the way, they cover anchor positioning failures, Stranger Things hot takes, and why small distilleries are just like indie startups.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:05:07 Whiskey Tasting: Old Forester Statesman
00:10:56 AI Coding Tools: The Great Simplification
00:15:02 Firing the Tools: Why Vanilla Claude Won
00:20:48 AI Agents &amp; Ralph Wiggum Loops
00:23:45 MCP Servers &amp; Skills: Helpful or Hype?
00:35:40 CSS Anchor Positioning: The Failed Migration
00:39:30 Bouncy Scrollbars &amp; CSS Flip Techniques
00:53:42 TypeScript, Tech Debt &amp; Moving Slow
00:56:57 Stranger Things Finale &amp; Cascadia JS Announcement


Links





Old Forester Statesman: https://www.oldforester.com/



Kingsman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Oh My Opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode



GSD (Get Shit Done): https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter



MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



React: https://react.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning



FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/



View Transitions API: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API



Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Ember Animated: https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/



Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things



Fallout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)



Two Bar Spirits: https://www.twobarspirits.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4f4e81d5-a055-4c4e-be4e-5628bd85e9c3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KH9PP9D8RWYJPCD7V6Q13R9S.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam talk winter storms, snow blowers, and autonomous yard work before diving into the real topic: AI agents gone wild. They debate why Ralph Wiggum loops don't actually work, whether context pollution is killing productivity, the rise and fall of MCP servers and skills, and why vanilla Claude might be the only tool you actually need. Along the way, they cover anchor positioning failures, Stranger Things hot takes, and why small distilleries are just like indie startups.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:05:07</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Old Forester Statesman</li><li><strong>00:10:56</strong> AI Coding Tools: The Great Simplification</li><li><strong>00:15:02</strong> Firing the Tools: Why Vanilla Claude Won</li><li><strong>00:20:48</strong> AI Agents & Ralph Wiggum Loops</li><li><strong>00:23:45</strong> MCP Servers & Skills: Helpful or Hype?</li><li><strong>00:35:40</strong> CSS Anchor Positioning: The Failed Migration</li><li><strong>00:39:30</strong> Bouncy Scrollbars & CSS Flip Techniques</li><li><strong>00:53:42</strong> TypeScript, Tech Debt & Moving Slow</li><li><strong>00:56:57</strong> Stranger Things Finale & Cascadia JS Announcement</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Old Forester Statesman: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.oldforester.com/">https://www.oldforester.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Kingsman: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swach: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/">https://www.swach.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Oh My Opencode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode">https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GSD (Get Shit Done): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter">https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MCP (Model Context Protocol): <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Anchor Positioning: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning</a></li><li class="list-item-node">FLIP Technique: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/">https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">View Transitions API: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Floating UI: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://floating-ui.com/">https://floating-ui.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember Animated: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated">https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CascadiaJS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Render ATL: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.renderatl.com/">https://www.renderatl.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Big Sky Dev Con: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://bigskydevcon.com/">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Stranger Things: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Fallout: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Two Bar Spirits: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.twobarspirits.com/">https://www.twobarspirits.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/chuckcarpenter">https://x.com/chuckcarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>We Fired the Tools: No Ralph Wiggum, No Training Wheels, Just Agents</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KH9R99XW92KZAGN9G5K75BD9/ralph-wiggum-loop-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3873</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>232</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk winter storms, snow blowers, and autonomous yard work before diving into the real topic: AI agents gone wild. They debate why Ralph Wiggum loops don&#39;t actually work, whether context pollution is killing productivity, the rise and fall of MCP servers and skills, and why vanilla Claude might be the only tool you actually need. Along the way, they cover anchor positioning failures, Stranger Things hot takes, and why small distilleries are just like indie startups.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:05:07 Whiskey Tasting: Old Forester Statesman
00:10:56 AI Coding Tools: The Great Simplification
00:15:02 Firing the Tools: Why Vanilla Claude Won
00:20:48 AI Agents &amp; Ralph Wiggum Loops
00:23:45 MCP Servers &amp; Skills: Helpful or Hype?
00:35:40 CSS Anchor Positioning: The Failed Migration
00:39:30 Bouncy Scrollbars &amp; CSS Flip Techniques
00:53:42 TypeScript, Tech Debt &amp; Moving Slow
00:56:57 Stranger Things Finale &amp; Cascadia JS Announcement


Links





Old Forester Statesman: https://www.oldforester.com/



Kingsman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise)



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Oh My Opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode



GSD (Get Shit Done): https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter



MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



React: https://react.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning



FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/



View Transitions API: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API



Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Ember Animated: https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/



Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things



Fallout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series)



Two Bar Spirits: https://www.twobarspirits.com/

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Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:09 Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore 10 Year Reserve Series
00:08:40 Living in Italy: Costs, Culture &amp; Comparisons
00:14:41 Astro Acquired by Cloudflare
00:19:38 Agentic AI &amp; Ralph Loops: The New Development Workflow
00:36:41 Building with Rust: The Hugh Hunter Color Picker
00:47:18 The Death of Hand-Coding &amp; The Future of Software Jobs
00:48:40 Claude Co-Work &amp; AI Desktop Apps
00:48:54 AI Beyond Coding: Life Automation &amp; Efficiency
00:58:34 Landlord Horror Stories &amp; The Tucson Property Saga


Links





Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Matt Pocock - Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Tauri: https://tauri.app/



Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Napi-rs: https://napi.rs/



GitHub: https://github.com/



ClickUp: https://clickup.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Wayland: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/



Steam Deck: https://www.steamdeck.com/



11.22.63: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ff07e280-9ed3-405a-80c8-f6c9f0a0988a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KH6YRB9HY24JN0XVJRQMY09T.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Carlo sip Sagamore's 10-year reserve rye and catch up with Carlo on life abroad, AI coding workflows, the changing developer landscape, and why cars, whiskey shipping, and property management are all equally frustrating. They dig into agentic AI loops, the rise of prompt-driven development, whether coding by hand is officially dead, and what happens when tools like OpenCode and Claude become the new normal.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><p class="text-node"><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Welcome & Introductions</li><li><strong>00:02:09</strong> Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore 10 Year Reserve Series</li><li><strong>00:08:40</strong> Living in Italy: Costs, Culture & Comparisons</li><li><strong>00:14:41</strong> Astro Acquired by Cloudflare</li><li><strong>00:19:38</strong> Agentic AI & Ralph Loops: The New Development Workflow</li><li><strong>00:36:41</strong> Building with Rust: The Hugh Hunter Color Picker</li><li><strong>00:47:18</strong> The Death of Hand-Coding & The Future of Software Jobs</li><li><strong>00:48:40</strong> Claude Co-Work & AI Desktop Apps</li><li><strong>00:48:54</strong> AI Beyond Coding: Life Automation & Efficiency</li><li><strong>00:58:34</strong> Landlord Horror Stories & The Tucson Property Saga</li></ul></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Sagamore Spirit: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://sagamorespirit.com/">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cloudflare: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cloudflare.com/">https://www.cloudflare.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Matt Pocock - Ralph Wiggum technique: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swach: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/">https://www.swach.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tauri: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://tauri.app/">https://tauri.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Electron: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.electronjs.org/">https://www.electronjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Napi-rs: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://napi.rs/">https://napi.rs/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ClickUp: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://clickup.com/">https://clickup.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.python.org/">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Linux: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linux.org/">https://www.linux.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Wayland: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://wayland.freedesktop.org/">https://wayland.freedesktop.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Steam Deck: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.steamdeck.com/">https://www.steamdeck.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">11.22.63: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/chuckcarpenter">https://x.com/chuckcarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>We Stopped Coding by Hand Because Agentic AI Is Too Good</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KH71A11AKYHDCSH5ZJ1Y9SJZ/agentic-loop-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4122</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>231</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Carlo sip Sagamore&#39;s 10-year reserve rye and catch up with Carlo on life abroad, AI coding workflows, the changing developer landscape, and why cars, whiskey shipping, and property management are all equally frustrating. They dig into agentic AI loops, the rise of prompt-driven development, whether coding by hand is officially dead, and what happens when tools like OpenCode and Claude become the new normal.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome &amp; Introductions
00:02:09 Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore 10 Year Reserve Series
00:08:40 Living in Italy: Costs, Culture &amp; Comparisons
00:14:41 Astro Acquired by Cloudflare
00:19:38 Agentic AI &amp; Ralph Loops: The New Development Workflow
00:36:41 Building with Rust: The Hugh Hunter Color Picker
00:47:18 The Death of Hand-Coding &amp; The Future of Software Jobs
00:48:40 Claude Co-Work &amp; AI Desktop Apps
00:48:54 AI Beyond Coding: Life Automation &amp; Efficiency
00:58:34 Landlord Horror Stories &amp; The Tucson Property Saga


Links





Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Matt Pocock - Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Tauri: https://tauri.app/



Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



Napi-rs: https://napi.rs/



GitHub: https://github.com/



ClickUp: https://clickup.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Wayland: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/



Steam Deck: https://www.steamdeck.com/



11.22.63: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:43) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Whistle Pig x Liquid Death Gravestock



(07:21) - Automating tasks with AI: the chicken and egg problem



(11:12) - Building a whiskey episode art generator with Swift and AI



(17:02) - Libraries that ship specs instead of code



(22:24) - Is TypeScript still worth it in an AI-first world?



(29:06) - Converting Shepherd from Svelte to Solid for bundle size



(34:44) - Why code matters less and outcomes matter more



(42:42) - Comparing OpenCode, Warp, Cursor, and Windsurf



(50:38) - The rise of agency: tinkerers over specialists



(54:46) - Getting into physical goods and local farming



(57:12) - Why booze, nicotine, and fun are all down



(01:00:10) - Plugs

Links





Whistle Pig Gravestock: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/



Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Swift: https://www.swift.org/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning



FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/



Paul Lewis: https://aerotwist.com/



Want My MTV: https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/



Fuse TV: https://www.fuse.tv/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a5e46c3a-d670-45fd-b9c0-32646153f4d0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KGHZ3CWW4HB62M9B30DE9T12.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Whistle Pig's Liquid Death collaboration and debate whether we've accidentally deleted programming itself. They dig into the shift from code-first to spec-first development, whether TypeScript still matters in an AI-driven world, the rise of agency over specialization, and why the future might belong to prompt-driven tinkerers instead of traditional developers.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by CodeRabbit: <a class="link" href="http://coderabbit.link/whiskey" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://coderabbit.link/whiskey</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) - Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:43) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Whistle Pig x Liquid Death Gravestock</li><li class="list-item-node">(07:21) - Automating tasks with AI: the chicken and egg problem</li><li class="list-item-node">(11:12) - Building a whiskey episode art generator with Swift and AI</li><li class="list-item-node">(17:02) - Libraries that ship specs instead of code</li><li class="list-item-node">(22:24) - Is TypeScript still worth it in an AI-first world?</li><li class="list-item-node">(29:06) - Converting Shepherd from Svelte to Solid for bundle size</li><li class="list-item-node">(34:44) - Why code matters less and outcomes matter more</li><li class="list-item-node">(42:42) - Comparing OpenCode, Warp, Cursor, and Windsurf</li><li class="list-item-node">(50:38) - The rise of agency: tinkerers over specialists</li><li class="list-item-node">(54:46) - Getting into physical goods and local farming</li><li class="list-item-node">(57:12) - Why booze, nicotine, and fun are all down</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:00:10) - Plugs</li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Whistle Pig Gravestock: <a class="link" href="https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Liquid Death: <a class="link" href="https://liquiddeath.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://liquiddeath.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a class="link" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Windsurf: <a class="link" href="https://windsurf.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gemini: <a class="link" href="https://gemini.google.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Solid: <a class="link" href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub Copilot: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swift: <a class="link" href="https://www.swift.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.swift.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shepherd: <a class="link" href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Floating UI: <a class="link" href="https://floating-ui.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://floating-ui.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swach: <a class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.swach.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Anchor Positioning: <a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning</a></li><li class="list-item-node">FLIP Technique: <a class="link" href="https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Paul Lewis: <a class="link" href="https://aerotwist.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://aerotwist.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Want My MTV: <a class="link" href="https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Fuse TV: <a class="link" href="https://www.fuse.tv/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.fuse.tv/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>We Accidentally Deleted Programming (Presented by CodeRabbit)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KGJ191EPRNF0P7AN1PBP0AFW/code-funeral-3000x3000.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3746</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>230</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Whistle Pig&#39;s Liquid Death collaboration and debate whether we&#39;ve accidentally deleted programming itself. They dig into the shift from code-first to spec-first development, whether TypeScript still matters in an AI-driven world, the rise of agency over specialization, and why the future might belong to prompt-driven tinkerers instead of traditional developers.

Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:43) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Whistle Pig x Liquid Death Gravestock



(07:21) - Automating tasks with AI: the chicken and egg problem



(11:12) - Building a whiskey episode art generator with Swift and AI



(17:02) - Libraries that ship specs instead of code



(22:24) - Is TypeScript still worth it in an AI-first world?



(29:06) - Converting Shepherd from Svelte to Solid for bundle size



(34:44) - Why code matters less and outcomes matter more



(42:42) - Comparing OpenCode, Warp, Cursor, and Windsurf



(50:38) - The rise of agency: tinkerers over specialists



(54:46) - Getting into physical goods and local farming



(57:12) - Why booze, nicotine, and fun are all down



(01:00:10) - Plugs

Links





Whistle Pig Gravestock: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/



Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/



GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Swift: https://www.swift.org/



Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/



Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning



FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/



Paul Lewis: https://aerotwist.com/



Want My MTV: https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/



Fuse TV: https://www.fuse.tv/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KGJ1Z7PPJHCPT59CWKNBSFEM/generated-image__1_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KGJ1Z7PPJHCPT59CWKNBSFEM/generated-image__1_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KHBTEE78VHEMMW2FW6TXNPXR/we-accidentally-deleted-programming__1_/transcoded-01KHBTFN980W3TMCR23DXA02J5-01KHBTFN989ARYXP49ERH345J5_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KGHZ3CWW4HB62M9B30DE9T12.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Is AI Just Stealing with Extra Steps? (Presented by CodeRabbit)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about the ethics and economics of AI, and why “stealing with extra steps” feels like the right metaphor for where things are headed. They dig into open source burnout, whether AI replaces developers or just reshapes the job, how tooling and multi-agent systems fit in, and whether the future belongs to niche expertise—or just better prompts.

Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:56) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Old Forester 1897



(04:50) - Music taste, Spotify ages, and feeling old



(07:29) - Is AI just stealing with extra steps?



(19:09) - Ralph vs. Gastown and the rise of agent chaos



(28:04) - What is an AI harness?



(31:36) - How to stay valuable in an AI-shaped future



(36:25) - Does vibe coding feel as satisfying?



(39:47) - Is the web heading somewhere dark?



(42:02) - Cursor wars, animations, and UX pet peeves



(48:48) - Will GitHub projects go full Vibe Kanban in 2026?



(54:41) - Holiday reflections and unplugging



(58:18) - Staying up late and old routines



(01:00:00) - Remembering Robbie’s dog



(01:00:58) - 2026 plans, goals, and resolutions

Links





Old Forester: https://www.oldforester.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/



Teddy Swims: https://www.teddyswims.com/



Post Malone: https://www.postmalone.com/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



Grok: https://grok.com/



Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen



Gas Town: https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown



Ralph: https://github.com/snarktank/ralph



Claude: https://claude.ai



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Matt Pocock - Ship working code while you sleep with the Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8



Python: https://www.python.org/



Oh-my-opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode



Bolt: https://bolt.new/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



Lovable: https://lovable.dev/



Same: https://same.new/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Expedition 33: https://www.expedition33.com



Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny



Anything: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/



Swift: https://www.swift.org/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



The Polar Express: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film)



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/



CSS Day: https://cssday.nl/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8c9b0923-8350-4a9f-b493-36607f032070</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KG2TH0JF1PM6NA7P28DZ0EJ8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam talk about the ethics and economics of AI, and why “stealing with extra steps” feels like the right metaphor for where things are headed. They dig into open source burnout, whether AI replaces developers or just reshapes the job, how tooling and multi-agent systems fit in, and whether the future belongs to niche expertise—or just better prompts.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by CodeRabbit: <a class="link" href="http://coderabbit.link/whiskey" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://coderabbit.link/whiskey</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) - Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:56) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Old Forester 1897</li><li class="list-item-node">(04:50) - Music taste, Spotify ages, and feeling old</li><li class="list-item-node">(07:29) - Is AI just stealing with extra steps?</li><li class="list-item-node">(19:09) - Ralph vs. Gastown and the rise of agent chaos</li><li class="list-item-node">(28:04) - What is an AI harness?</li><li class="list-item-node">(31:36) - How to stay valuable in an AI-shaped future</li><li class="list-item-node">(36:25) - Does vibe coding feel as satisfying?</li><li class="list-item-node">(39:47) - Is the web heading somewhere dark?</li><li class="list-item-node">(42:02) - Cursor wars, animations, and UX pet peeves</li><li class="list-item-node">(48:48) - Will GitHub projects go full Vibe Kanban in 2026?</li><li class="list-item-node">(54:41) - Holiday reflections and unplugging</li><li class="list-item-node">(58:18) - Staying up late and old routines</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:00:00) - Remembering Robbie’s dog</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:00:58) - 2026 plans, goals, and resolutions</li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Old Forester: <a class="link" href="https://www.oldforester.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.oldforester.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Mayday Parade: <a class="link" href="https://maydayparade.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://maydayparade.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Teddy Swims: <a class="link" href="https://www.teddyswims.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.teddyswims.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Post Malone: <a class="link" href="https://www.postmalone.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.postmalone.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">JavaScript: <a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Grok: <a class="link" href="https://grok.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://grok.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Wathan: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/adamwathan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/adamwathan/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Primeagen: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gas Town: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ralph: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/snarktank/ralph" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/snarktank/ralph</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a class="link" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://claude.ai</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenCode: <a class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Matt Pocock - Ship working code while you sleep with the Ralph Wiggum technique: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a class="link" href="https://www.python.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Oh-my-opencode: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bolt: <a class="link" href="https://bolt.new/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bolt.new/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ChatGPT: <a class="link" href="https://chatgpt.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Lovable: <a class="link" href="https://lovable.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lovable.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Same: <a class="link" href="https://same.new/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://same.new/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Expedition 33: <a class="link" href="https://www.expedition33.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.expedition33.com</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Destiny 2: <a class="link" href="https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anything: <a class="link" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swach: <a class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/">https://www.swach.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Electron: <a class="link" href="https://www.electronjs.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.electronjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Swift: <a class="link" href="https://www.swift.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.swift.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">The Polar Express: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Miami: <a class="link" href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Render ATL: <a class="link" href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.renderatl.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CascadiaJS: <a class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">All Things Open: <a class="link" href="https://allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Day: <a class="link" href="https://cssday.nl/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://cssday.nl/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieWagner">https://x.com/RobbieWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter">https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Is AI Just Stealing with Extra Steps? (Presented by CodeRabbit)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KG5DZRXKB3D0ZT1101M38BFD/episode-229-is-ai-just-stealing-with-extra-steps_-artwork.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3910</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>229</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about the ethics and economics of AI, and why “stealing with extra steps” feels like the right metaphor for where things are headed. They dig into open source burnout, whether AI replaces developers or just reshapes the job, how tooling and multi-agent systems fit in, and whether the future belongs to niche expertise—or just better prompts.

Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:56) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Old Forester 1897



(04:50) - Music taste, Spotify ages, and feeling old



(07:29) - Is AI just stealing with extra steps?



(19:09) - Ralph vs. Gastown and the rise of agent chaos



(28:04) - What is an AI harness?



(31:36) - How to stay valuable in an AI-shaped future



(36:25) - Does vibe coding feel as satisfying?



(39:47) - Is the web heading somewhere dark?



(42:02) - Cursor wars, animations, and UX pet peeves



(48:48) - Will GitHub projects go full Vibe Kanban in 2026?



(54:41) - Holiday reflections and unplugging



(58:18) - Staying up late and old routines



(01:00:00) - Remembering Robbie’s dog



(01:00:58) - 2026 plans, goals, and resolutions

Links





Old Forester: https://www.oldforester.com/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/



Teddy Swims: https://www.teddyswims.com/



Post Malone: https://www.postmalone.com/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



Grok: https://grok.com/



Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen



Gas Town: https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown



Ralph: https://github.com/snarktank/ralph



Claude: https://claude.ai



OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/



Matt Pocock - Ship working code while you sleep with the Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8



Python: https://www.python.org/



Oh-my-opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode



Bolt: https://bolt.new/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



Lovable: https://lovable.dev/



Same: https://same.new/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Expedition 33: https://www.expedition33.com



Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny



Anything: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034



Swach: https://www.swach.io/



Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/



Swift: https://www.swift.org/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



The Polar Express: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film)



React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/



Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/



CSS Day: https://cssday.nl/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KG5E2SYRGQ41H3GRRPVCX1ZT/generated-image__1_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KG5E2SYRGQ41H3GRRPVCX1ZT/generated-image__1_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KG2TKFQWCNKGQ51GE79WTTKF/0229_final/transcoded-01KG2TRWPW1DZSC9C1CZGMF3DW-01KG2TRWPWXSN2Z9957MBJ3D1N_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KG2TH0JF1PM6NA7P28DZ0EJ8.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Santa.exe (Presented by CodeRabbit)</title><description>This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam bring you the holiday edition of Whiskey Web and Whatnot: random whiskeys, Christmas hot takes, and dev debates. They discuss AI agents, guardrails, prompt-driven development, and whether we’re drifting toward a world where code matters less than outcomes.

Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) Intro



(02:15) Whiskey selections



(07:43) Christmas Hot Take: Real tree vs fake tree



(12:14) Christmas Hot Take: White lights vs colored lights



(15:07) What everyone&#39;s watching right now



(17:55) What is Ball Pit?



(19:58) Video games everyone&#39;s playing



(21:58) Chuck&#39;s overseas shipping challenges



(23:09) The modern grocery store experience (and why Chuck refuses to “work there”)



(28:18) Are types dead in an AI-first dev world?



(45:53) Disney giving money to OpenAI



(47:57) Netflix acquiring Warner Bros… what?



(48:35) Are AI tools actually worth the cost?



(51:30) Just-in-time apps: the future of the web?



(54:39) Living in Italy + the language barrier



(57:50) Adam’s food analogy: web platform vs React apps



(58:15) Fast food tier list



(01:00:06) Adam&#39;s banjo Christmas tunes

Links





The Nightmare Before Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park



Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/



Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things



Sean Combs: The Reckoning: https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780



50 Cent: https://x.com/50cent



Today Show: https://www.today.com/



Ball Pit: https://www.ballxpit.com/



Breakout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game)



Risk of Rain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain



Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/



Nintendo Switch: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/



FIFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)



GOG: http://Gog.com



Luna: https://luna.amazon.com/



Rue Valley: https://ruevalley.com/



Memento: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)



Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US



Uncharted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted



Whole Foods: https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/



Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Vite: https://vite.dev/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



Disney: https://www.disney.com/



Sora: https://openai.com/sora/



Studio Ghibli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli



OpenAI: https://openai.com



Scarlett Johansson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson



Harry Potter: https://www.harrypotter.com/



Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/



React: https://react.dev/



Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/



KFC: https://www.kfc.com/



Bob&#39;s Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob&#39;s_Burgers



Garth Brooks: https://www.garthbrooks.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">61e4b0fc-3a2e-4005-9dba-a984d82ac293</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KFGK30JXDGAHS25XCG3K2M0Z.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam bring you the holiday edition of Whiskey Web and Whatnot: random whiskeys, Christmas hot takes, and dev debates. They discuss AI agents, guardrails, prompt-driven development, and whether we’re drifting toward a world where code matters less than outcomes.</p><p class="text-node">Presented by CodeRabbit: <a class="link" href="http://coderabbit.link/whiskey">http://coderabbit.link/whiskey</a></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(02:15) Whiskey selections</li><li class="list-item-node">(07:43) Christmas Hot Take: Real tree vs fake tree</li><li class="list-item-node">(12:14) Christmas Hot Take: White lights vs colored lights</li><li class="list-item-node">(15:07) What everyone's watching right now</li><li class="list-item-node">(17:55) What is Ball Pit?</li><li class="list-item-node">(19:58) Video games everyone's playing</li><li class="list-item-node">(21:58) Chuck's overseas shipping challenges</li><li class="list-item-node">(23:09) The modern grocery store experience (and why Chuck refuses to “work there”)</li><li class="list-item-node">(28:18) Are types dead in an AI-first dev world?</li><li class="list-item-node">(45:53) Disney giving money to OpenAI</li><li class="list-item-node">(47:57) Netflix acquiring Warner Bros… what?</li><li class="list-item-node">(48:35) Are AI tools actually worth the cost?</li><li class="list-item-node">(51:30) Just-in-time apps: the future of the web?</li><li class="list-item-node">(54:39) Living in Italy + the language barrier</li><li class="list-item-node">(57:50) Adam’s food analogy: web platform vs React apps</li><li class="list-item-node">(58:15) Fast food tier list</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:00:06) Adam's banjo Christmas tunes</li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">The Nightmare Before Christmas: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">South Park: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Paramount+: <a class="link" href="https://www.paramountplus.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.paramountplus.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Stranger Things: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Sean Combs: The Reckoning: <a class="link" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780</a></li><li class="list-item-node">50 Cent: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/50cent" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/50cent</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Today Show: <a class="link" href="https://www.today.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.today.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ball Pit: <a class="link" href="https://www.ballxpit.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.ballxpit.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Breakout: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Risk of Rain: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Steam: <a class="link" href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://store.steampowered.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Nintendo Switch: <a class="link" href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">FIFA: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GOG: <a class="link" href="http://gog.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://Gog.com</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Luna: <a class="link" href="https://luna.amazon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://luna.amazon.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rue Valley: <a class="link" href="https://ruevalley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://ruevalley.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Memento: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: <a class="link" href="https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Uncharted: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Whole Foods: <a class="link" href="https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Airtable: <a class="link" href="https://www.airtable.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.airtable.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rust: <a class="link" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">MacOS: <a class="link" href="https://www.apple.com/macos/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.apple.com/macos/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Windows: <a class="link" href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Linux: <a class="link" href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linux.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a class="link" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vite: <a class="link" href="https://vite.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://vite.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">JavaScript: <a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS: <a class="link" href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Disney: <a class="link" href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.disney.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Sora: <a class="link" href="https://openai.com/sora/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com/sora/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Studio Ghibli: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI: <a class="link" href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Scarlett Johansson: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Harry Potter: <a class="link" href="https://www.harrypotter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.harrypotter.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Uber Eats: <a class="link" href="https://www.ubereats.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.ubereats.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React: <a class="link" href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://react.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Taco Bell: <a class="link" href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.tacobell.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">KFC: <a class="link" href="https://www.kfc.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.kfc.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Bob's Burgers: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_Burgers" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_Burgers</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Garth Brooks: <a class="link" href="https://www.garthbrooks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.garthbrooks.com/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Santa.exe (Presented by CodeRabbit)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KG3B5XRYW6X4V066VG6QCVDM/episode-228-santa.exe-_presented-by-coderabbit_---whiskey-web-and-whatnot---episode-undefined-artwork.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3813</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>228</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam bring you the holiday edition of Whiskey Web and Whatnot: random whiskeys, Christmas hot takes, and dev debates. They discuss AI agents, guardrails, prompt-driven development, and whether we’re drifting toward a world where code matters less than outcomes.

Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey

In this episode:





(00:00) Intro



(02:15) Whiskey selections



(07:43) Christmas Hot Take: Real tree vs fake tree



(12:14) Christmas Hot Take: White lights vs colored lights



(15:07) What everyone&#39;s watching right now



(17:55) What is Ball Pit?



(19:58) Video games everyone&#39;s playing



(21:58) Chuck&#39;s overseas shipping challenges



(23:09) The modern grocery store experience (and why Chuck refuses to “work there”)



(28:18) Are types dead in an AI-first dev world?



(45:53) Disney giving money to OpenAI



(47:57) Netflix acquiring Warner Bros… what?



(48:35) Are AI tools actually worth the cost?



(51:30) Just-in-time apps: the future of the web?



(54:39) Living in Italy + the language barrier



(57:50) Adam’s food analogy: web platform vs React apps



(58:15) Fast food tier list



(01:00:06) Adam&#39;s banjo Christmas tunes

Links





The Nightmare Before Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park



Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/



Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things



Sean Combs: The Reckoning: https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780



50 Cent: https://x.com/50cent



Today Show: https://www.today.com/



Ball Pit: https://www.ballxpit.com/



Breakout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game)



Risk of Rain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain



Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/



Nintendo Switch: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/



FIFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)



GOG: http://Gog.com



Luna: https://luna.amazon.com/



Rue Valley: https://ruevalley.com/



Memento: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)



Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US



Uncharted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted



Whole Foods: https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/



Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/



MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/



Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows



Linux: https://www.linux.org/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Vite: https://vite.dev/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



Disney: https://www.disney.com/



Sora: https://openai.com/sora/



Studio Ghibli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli



OpenAI: https://openai.com



Scarlett Johansson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson



Harry Potter: https://www.harrypotter.com/



Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/



React: https://react.dev/



Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/



KFC: https://www.kfc.com/



Bob&#39;s Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob&#39;s_Burgers



Garth Brooks: https://www.garthbrooks.com/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KFGK3M1P2EEHSECQP42B3M5G/0228_final/transcoded-01KFGK992FRJ2FBZGBXKW2T49K-01KFGK992FP2YQHZA0YQY8CBYP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KFGK30JXDGAHS25XCG3K2M0Z.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety.



Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey



In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:49) - Meet Will Johnson



(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jameson Triple Triple



(07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge



(09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences



(11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?



(14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security)



(16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks



(18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too?



(19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue



(20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters



(25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why)



(27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food?



(27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here?



(29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development?



(31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used



(32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured



(35:47) - Passkeys explained



(41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will



(43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth



Links





Auth0: https://auth0.com/



Jameson Triple Triple: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/



Three Sheets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets



Jack Daniel&#39;s Reserve: https://www.jackdaniels.com/



Google Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



KPop Demon Hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters



Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/



NSYNC: https://nsync.com/



B2K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K



Chris Brown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown



Netflix: https://netflix.com



Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/



Moana: https://movies.disney.com/moana



Dak Prescott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott



React: https://react.dev/



Oreo: https://www.oreo.com/



jQuery: https://jquery.com/



Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/



ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp



BlingBlingjs: https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs



Astro: https://astro.build/



Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/



Laravel: https://laravel.com/



Egghead: https://egghead.io/



Grok: https://grok.com/



1Password: https://1password.com/



Google Zanzibar: https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/



AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/



Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/



Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/



Connect with Will





Website: https://auth0.com/ai



X / Twitter: https://x.com/willjohnsonio



Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink



Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot



Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ba829670-45dc-4b93-a6f0-e95b95d3cf51</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/01KEZ36C31WX6CRANZ4P9B933Q.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety.</p><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node">Presented by CodeRabbit:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="http://coderabbit.link/whiskey"><strong>http://coderabbit.link/whiskey</strong></a></p><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) - Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:49) - Meet Will Johnson</li><li class="list-item-node">(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jameson Triple Triple</li><li class="list-item-node">(07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge</li><li class="list-item-node">(09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences</li><li class="list-item-node">(11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li><li class="list-item-node">(14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security)</li><li class="list-item-node">(16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks</li><li class="list-item-node">(18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too?</li><li class="list-item-node">(19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue</li><li class="list-item-node">(20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters</li><li class="list-item-node">(25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why)</li><li class="list-item-node">(27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food?</li><li class="list-item-node">(27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here?</li><li class="list-item-node">(29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development?</li><li class="list-item-node">(31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used</li><li class="list-item-node">(32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured</li><li class="list-item-node">(35:47) - Passkeys explained</li><li class="list-item-node">(41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will</li><li class="list-item-node">(43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth</li></ul><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Auth0:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://auth0.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://auth0.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jameson Triple Triple:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Three Sheets:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jack Daniel's Reserve:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.jackdaniels.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Chrome:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.google.com/chrome/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.shopify.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">JavaScript:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">MCP:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://nextjs.org/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">KPop Demon Hunters:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Britney Spears:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://britneyspears.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://britneyspears.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">NSYNC:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://nsync.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://nsync.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">B2K:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chris Brown:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Netflix:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://netflix.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://netflix.com</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Stanford University:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.stanford.edu/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Moana:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://movies.disney.com/moana" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://movies.disney.com/moana</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Dak Prescott:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">React:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://react.dev/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Oreo:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.oreo.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.oreo.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">jQuery:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://jquery.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">ES6:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">BlingBlingjs:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://astro.build/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rails:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://rubyonrails.org/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Laravel:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://laravel.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://laravel.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Egghead:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://egghead.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://egghead.io/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Grok:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://grok.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://grok.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">1Password:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://1password.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://1password.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Google Zanzibar:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">AWS:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://aws.amazon.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Netlify:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.netlify.com/</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pokemon Go:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://pokemongolive.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://pokemongolive.com/</strong></a></li></ul><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with Will</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://auth0.com/ai" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://auth0.com/ai</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://x.com/willjohnsonio" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://x.com/willjohnsonio</strong></a></li></ul><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://x.com/argyleink</strong></a></li></ul><p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://whiskey.fm</strong></a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://whiskey.fund</strong></a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KF3TQFSA8T6304B55AY7SQ8K/mcp-security_-framework-fatigue_-and-ai-agents-with-will-johnson-_presented-by-coderabbit_-artwork.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2743</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>227</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety.



Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey



In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:49) - Meet Will Johnson



(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jameson Triple Triple



(07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge



(09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences



(11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?



(14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security)



(16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks



(18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too?



(19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue



(20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters



(25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why)



(27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food?



(27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here?



(29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development?



(31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used



(32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured



(35:47) - Passkeys explained



(41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will



(43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth



Links





Auth0: https://auth0.com/



Jameson Triple Triple: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/



Three Sheets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets



Jack Daniel&#39;s Reserve: https://www.jackdaniels.com/



Google Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



KPop Demon Hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters



Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/



NSYNC: https://nsync.com/



B2K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K



Chris Brown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown



Netflix: https://netflix.com



Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/



Moana: https://movies.disney.com/moana



Dak Prescott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott



React: https://react.dev/



Oreo: https://www.oreo.com/



jQuery: https://jquery.com/



Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/



ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp



BlingBlingjs: https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs



Astro: https://astro.build/



Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/



Laravel: https://laravel.com/



Egghead: https://egghead.io/



Grok: https://grok.com/



1Password: https://1password.com/



Google Zanzibar: https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/



AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/



Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/



Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/



Connect with Will





Website: https://auth0.com/ai



X / Twitter: https://x.com/willjohnsonio



Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink



Subscribe and stay in touch





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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KF3TX28DZN54R7CB65EKZN2Z/generated-image__2_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KF3TX28DZN54R7CB65EKZN2Z/generated-image__2_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KEZ3RGKRNVBJJBWYBP38MFDC/0227_final/transcoded-01KEZ3W0F1BTMP21D3GBG64YMH-01KEZ3W0F1GWJXKB8368TWZEYW_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KEZ36C31WX6CRANZ4P9B933Q.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>A Very Merry Descent Into Holiday Madness</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about holiday travel chaos, parenting stress, and health scares before diving into AI-assisted coding, Linux quirks, IDE trends, burnout in open source, and more.


In this episode:

- (00:00) - Intro

- (02:07) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Flaviar &amp; Jack Daniels

- (06:02) - Stress gummies, holiday chaos, and why Robbie is fried 

- (13:05) - Adam on pulling back, burnout, and choosing quality over quantity

- (21:02) - Second pour: Flavia SirDavis American Whisky

- (21:23) - Building color tools for fun (and sanity) 

- (21:51) - Is React actually holding us back?

- (25:16) - Food, culture, and building with the platform

- (27:19) - The worst IDE idea ever

- (31:00) - Vibe-coding an iOS app… on iOS

- (32:39) - Where AI still completely fails

- (34:02) - OpenAI vs. Gemini and the shifting AI landscape

- (34:56) - Editors, agents, and AI overload

- (38:34) - Space toggles in CSS and weirdly powerful tricks

- (42:14) - Are AI tools getting more scatterbrained?

- (44:20) - Perspective when everything feels heavy 

- (46:20) - Learning new skills without burning out

- (48:03) - Curiosity is a survival skill

- (48:40) - Working through hard seasons in life

- (54:14) - TV shows, distractions, and mental breaks

- (54:46) - Robbie vs. Lego ordering (again)

- (56:05) - Adam’s exhausting travel run 

- (57:07) - Why kids are basically walking germs

- (58:26) - Adam’s Beyond Tellerrand talk

- (59:13) - Advent of Code




**Links**

- Flaviar Bhakta Golden Age Blend: https://flaviar.com/products/bhakta-1928-golden-age-blend-750

- Flavia SirDavis American Whisky: https://flaviar.com/products/sirdavis-american-whisky-750

- Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye

- Whiskey Web and Whatnot live episodes from All Things Open 2025: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7uiIY_6TPL-iREDcpUVndAZaz118OE-h

- Olly Stress Gummies: https://www.olly.com/

- Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar: https://flaviar.com/pages/advent-calendar

- Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/

- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/

- Adam&#39;s blog post - An Update On My Involvement In Standards: https://nerdy.dev/update-on-my-involvement-in-standards

- Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen

- Swach: https://swach.io/

- Chrome EyeDropper API: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/capabilities/web-apis/eyedropper

- Linux: https://www.linux.org/

- Wayland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(protocol)

- GNOME: https://www.gnome.org/

- KDE: https://kde.org/

- C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp

- Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/

- Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/

- Antigravity: https://antigravity.google/

- Adam&#39;s color component: https://github.com/argyleink/css-color-component

- theCHIVE: https://thechive.com/

- Preact: https://preactjs.com/

- React: https://react.dev/

- Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

- Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld

- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/

- Ember: https://emberjs.com/

- OpenAI: https://openai.com

- Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/

- Nano Banana: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

- Claude: https://claude.ai/

- Opencode: https://opencode.ai/

- Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

- Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

- Big Pickle: https://opencode.ai/docs/zen/

- Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/

- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/

- Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things

- Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier

- Wednesday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_(TV_series)

- LEGO: https://www.lego.com/

- WebGL: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API

- Advent of Code: https://adventofcode.com/

- Figma: https://www.figma.com/

- Adam&#39;s Beyond Tellerrand talk: https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/berlin-2025/speakers/adam-argyle




**Connect with the hosts**

- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner 

- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd 

- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink




**Subscribe and stay in touch**

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Building color tools for fun (and sanity) </p><p class="text-node">- (21:51) - Is React actually holding us back?</p><p class="text-node">- (25:16) - Food, culture, and building with the platform</p><p class="text-node">- (27:19) - The worst IDE idea ever</p><p class="text-node">- (31:00) - Vibe-coding an iOS app… on iOS</p><p class="text-node">- (32:39) - Where AI still completely fails</p><p class="text-node">- (34:02) - OpenAI vs. Gemini and the shifting AI landscape</p><p class="text-node">- (34:56) - Editors, agents, and AI overload</p><p class="text-node">- (38:34) - Space toggles in CSS and weirdly powerful tricks</p><p class="text-node">- (42:14) - Are AI tools getting more scatterbrained?</p><p class="text-node">- (44:20) - Perspective when everything feels heavy </p><p class="text-node">- (46:20) - Learning new skills without burning out</p><p class="text-node">- (48:03) - Curiosity is a survival skill</p><p class="text-node">- (48:40) - Working through hard seasons in life</p><p class="text-node">- (54:14) - TV shows, distractions, and mental breaks</p><p class="text-node">- (54:46) - Robbie vs. Lego ordering (again)</p><p class="text-node">- (56:05) - Adam’s exhausting travel run </p><p class="text-node">- (57:07) - Why kids are basically walking germs</p><p class="text-node">- (58:26) - Adam’s Beyond Tellerrand talk</p><p class="text-node">- (59:13) - Advent of Code</p><p class="text-node"><br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>**Links**</strong></p><p class="text-node">- Flaviar Bhakta Golden Age Blend: https://flaviar.com/products/bhakta-1928-golden-age-blend-750</p><p class="text-node">- Flavia SirDavis American Whisky: https://flaviar.com/products/sirdavis-american-whisky-750</p><p class="text-node">- Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye</p><p class="text-node">- Whiskey Web and Whatnot live episodes from All Things Open 2025: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7uiIY_6TPL-iREDcpUVndAZaz118OE-h</p><p class="text-node">- Olly Stress Gummies: https://www.olly.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar: https://flaviar.com/pages/advent-calendar</p><p class="text-node">- Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/</p><p class="text-node">- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Adam's blog post - An Update On My Involvement In Standards: https://nerdy.dev/update-on-my-involvement-in-standards</p><p class="text-node">- Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</p><p class="text-node">- Swach: <a class="link" href="https://www.swach.io/">https://swach.io/</a></p><p class="text-node">- Chrome EyeDropper API: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/capabilities/web-apis/eyedropper</p><p class="text-node">- Linux: https://www.linux.org/</p><p class="text-node">- Wayland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(protocol)</p><p class="text-node">- GNOME: https://www.gnome.org/</p><p class="text-node">- KDE: https://kde.org/</p><p class="text-node">- C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp</p><p class="text-node">- Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/</p><p class="text-node">- Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/</p><p class="text-node">- Antigravity: https://antigravity.google/</p><p class="text-node">- Adam's color component: https://github.com/argyleink/css-color-component</p><p class="text-node">- theCHIVE: https://thechive.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Preact: https://preactjs.com/</p><p class="text-node">- React: https://react.dev/</p><p class="text-node">- Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld</p><p class="text-node">- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Ember: https://emberjs.com/</p><p class="text-node">- OpenAI: https://openai.com</p><p class="text-node">- Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Nano Banana: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/</p><p class="text-node">- Claude: https://claude.ai/</p><p class="text-node">- Opencode: https://opencode.ai/</p><p class="text-node">- Warp: https://www.warp.dev/</p><p class="text-node">- Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Big Pickle: https://opencode.ai/docs/zen/</p><p class="text-node">- Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/</p><p class="text-node">- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</p><p class="text-node">- Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things</p><p class="text-node">- Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier</p><p class="text-node">- Wednesday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_(TV_series)</p><p class="text-node">- LEGO: https://www.lego.com/</p><p class="text-node">- WebGL: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API</p><p class="text-node">- Advent of Code: https://adventofcode.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Figma: https://www.figma.com/</p><p class="text-node">- Adam's Beyond Tellerrand talk: https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/berlin-2025/speakers/adam-argyle</p><p class="text-node"><br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>**Connect with the hosts**</strong></p><p class="text-node">- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner </p><p class="text-node">- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd </p><p class="text-node">- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink</p><p class="text-node"><br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>**Subscribe and stay in touch**</strong></p><p class="text-node">- Website: https://whiskey.fm </p><p class="text-node">- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 </p><p class="text-node">- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf </p><p class="text-node">- Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 </p><p class="text-node">- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot </p><p class="text-node"><br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>**Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch**</strong></p><p class="text-node">Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A Very Merry Descent Into Holiday Madness</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KEVF69RGTYX3XR7R4TZ2P0A1/podcast-image-1768250156.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3717</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>226</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about holiday travel chaos, parenting stress, and health scares before diving into AI-assisted coding, Linux quirks, IDE trends, burnout in open source, and more.


In this episode:

- (00:00) - Intro

- (02:07) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Flaviar &amp; Jack Daniels

- (06:02) - Stress gummies, holiday chaos, and why Robbie is fried 

- (13:05) - Adam on pulling back, burnout, and choosing quality over quantity

- (21:02) - Second pour: Flavia SirDavis American Whisky

- (21:23) - Building color tools for fun (and sanity) 

- (21:51) - Is React actually holding us back?

- (25:16) - Food, culture, and building with the platform

- (27:19) - The worst IDE idea ever

- (31:00) - Vibe-coding an iOS app… on iOS

- (32:39) - Where AI still completely fails

- (34:02) - OpenAI vs. Gemini and the shifting AI landscape

- (34:56) - Editors, agents, and AI overload

- (38:34) - Space toggles in CSS and weirdly powerful tricks

- (42:14) - Are AI tools getting more scatterbrained?

- (44:20) - Perspective when everything feels heavy 

- (46:20) - Learning new skills without burning out

- (48:03) - Curiosity is a survival skill

- (48:40) - Working through hard seasons in life

- (54:14) - TV shows, distractions, and mental breaks

- (54:46) - Robbie vs. Lego ordering (again)

- (56:05) - Adam’s exhausting travel run 

- (57:07) - Why kids are basically walking germs

- (58:26) - Adam’s Beyond Tellerrand talk

- (59:13) - Advent of Code




**Links**

- Flaviar Bhakta Golden Age Blend: https://flaviar.com/products/bhakta-1928-golden-age-blend-750

- Flavia SirDavis American Whisky: https://flaviar.com/products/sirdavis-american-whisky-750

- Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye

- Whiskey Web and Whatnot live episodes from All Things Open 2025: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7uiIY_6TPL-iREDcpUVndAZaz118OE-h

- Olly Stress Gummies: https://www.olly.com/

- Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar: https://flaviar.com/pages/advent-calendar

- Harry Potter and the Cursed Child: https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/

- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/

- Adam&#39;s blog post - An Update On My Involvement In Standards: https://nerdy.dev/update-on-my-involvement-in-standards

- Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen

- Swach: https://swach.io/

- Chrome EyeDropper API: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/capabilities/web-apis/eyedropper

- Linux: https://www.linux.org/

- Wayland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(protocol)

- GNOME: https://www.gnome.org/

- KDE: https://kde.org/

- C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp

- Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/

- Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/

- Antigravity: https://antigravity.google/

- Adam&#39;s color component: https://github.com/argyleink/css-color-component

- theCHIVE: https://thechive.com/

- Preact: https://preactjs.com/

- React: https://react.dev/

- Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

- Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld

- VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/

- Ember: https://emberjs.com/

- OpenAI: https://openai.com

- Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/

- Nano Banana: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

- Claude: https://claude.ai/

- Opencode: https://opencode.ai/

- Warp: https://www.warp.dev/

- Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

- Big Pickle: https://opencode.ai/docs/zen/

- Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/

- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/

- Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things

- Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier

- Wednesday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_(TV_series)

- LEGO: https://www.lego.com/

- WebGL: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API

- Advent of Code: https://adventofcode.com/

- Figma: https://www.figma.com/

- Adam&#39;s Beyond Tellerrand talk: https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/berlin-2025/speakers/adam-argyle




**Connect with the hosts**

- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner 

- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd 

- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink




**Subscribe and stay in touch**

- Website: https://whiskey.fm 

- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 

- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf 

- Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 

- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot 




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In this episode:

(00:00) &amp;ndash; Intro
(01:43) &amp;ndash; Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jack Daniel&amp;rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye
(09:15) &amp;ndash; Why SOC 2 compliance is a painful rite of passage
(11:55) &amp;ndash; AI-powered workflows and where they break down
(18:55) &amp;ndash; Do we still need new frameworks?
(20:58) &amp;ndash; Framework fatigue and the React hangover
(26:51) &amp;ndash; The reality of building browser extensions
(29:02) &amp;ndash; Is Firefox dead?
(29:19) &amp;ndash; Who AI-powered browsers are actually for
(31:26) &amp;ndash; Why shipping software on Windows is such a mess
(35:15) &amp;ndash; Juggling operating systems and hardware setups
(37:22) &amp;ndash; Are ultra-expensive PC components actually worth it?
(40:58) &amp;ndash; Shipping Swatch across platforms and dealing with Snap
(42:48) &amp;ndash; The &amp;ldquo;Tacolate,&amp;rdquo; Taco Bell experiments, and questionable food ideas
(46:45) &amp;ndash; What is a Bimby cooker?
(52:57) &amp;ndash; Robbie&amp;rsquo;s septic system saga

Links

Jack Daniel&amp;rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/single-barrel-rye
Winter Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games
World Cup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Grok: https://grok.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Open Router: https://openrouter.ai/
Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
v0: https://v0.dev/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Replit: https://replit.com/
ShadCN: https://ui.shadcn.com/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
React: https://react.dev/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
HTMX: https://htmx.org/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/
Express: https://expressjs.com/
Omarchy: https://omarchy.org/
Swatch: https://swatch.dev/
Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows
Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
Apple: https://apple.com
Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
Firefox: https://www.firefox.com/
Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/
Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/
LG 5k Display: https://www.lg.com/us/collections/5k-monitors
Apple XDR Display: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
Snap: https://snapcraft.io/
Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
Bimby Cooker: https://www.thermomix.com/
Vitamix: https://www.vitamix.com/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Ep 218: How to Build a Career When the Rules Keep Changing w/ Taylor Desseyn &amp; Jason Torres: https://whiskey.fm/how-to-build-a-career-when-the-rules-keep-changing-w-taylor-desseyn-jason-torres

Connect with the hosts

Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fde3ea4b-33c0-46f1-aa0a-d5f137a4d219</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mgnwn5yyp1g5je37lddygucb.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck sip Jack Daniel&rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye, and discuss why SOC 2 compliance is a painful but necessary sign of company maturity. They also dig into AI coding tools, React fatigue, and the growing frustration of modern developer workflows.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) &ndash; Intro</li>
<li>(01:43) &ndash; Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jack Daniel&rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye</li>
<li>(09:15) &ndash; Why SOC 2 compliance is a painful rite of passage</li>
<li>(11:55) &ndash; AI-powered workflows and where they break down</li>
<li>(18:55) &ndash; Do we still need new frameworks?</li>
<li>(20:58) &ndash; Framework fatigue and the React hangover</li>
<li>(26:51) &ndash; The reality of building browser extensions</li>
<li>(29:02) &ndash; Is Firefox dead?</li>
<li>(29:19) &ndash; Who AI-powered browsers are actually for</li>
<li>(31:26) &ndash; Why shipping software on Windows is such a mess</li>
<li>(35:15) &ndash; Juggling operating systems and hardware setups</li>
<li>(37:22) &ndash; Are ultra-expensive PC components actually worth it?</li>
<li>(40:58) &ndash; Shipping Swatch across platforms and dealing with Snap</li>
<li>(42:48) &ndash; The &ldquo;Tacolate,&rdquo; Taco Bell experiments, and questionable food ideas</li>
<li>(46:45) &ndash; What is a Bimby cooker?</li>
<li>(52:57) &ndash; Robbie&rsquo;s septic system saga</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Jack Daniel&rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye: <a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/single-barrel-rye">https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/single-barrel-rye</a></li>
<li>Winter Olympics: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games</a></li>
<li>World Cup: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup</a></li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li>
<li>AWS: <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/">https://aws.amazon.com/</a></li>
<li>IBM: <a href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai</a></li>
<li>Opencode: <a href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li>
<li>Grok: <a href="https://grok.com/">https://grok.com/</a></li>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Open Router: <a href="https://openrouter.ai/">https://openrouter.ai/</a></li>
<li>Elon Musk: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a></li>
<li>v0: <a href="https://v0.dev/">https://v0.dev/</a></li>
<li>Gemini: <a href="https://gemini.google.com/">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li>
<li>Lovable: <a href="https://lovable.dev/">https://lovable.dev/</a></li>
<li>Replit: <a href="https://replit.com/">https://replit.com/</a></li>
<li>ShadCN: <a href="https://ui.shadcn.com/">https://ui.shadcn.com/</a></li>
<li>Vue: <a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript: <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org/">https://htmx.org/</a></li>
<li>TanStack: <a href="https://tanstack.com/">https://tanstack.com/</a></li>
<li>SolidJS: <a href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Express: <a href="https://expressjs.com/">https://expressjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Omarchy: <a href="https://omarchy.org/">https://omarchy.org/</a></li>
<li>Swatch: <a href="https://swatch.dev/">https://swatch.dev/</a></li>
<li>Windows: <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows</a></li>
<li>Chrome: <a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/">https://www.google.com/chrome/</a></li>
<li>TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li>
<li>Safari: <a href="https://www.apple.com/safari/">https://www.apple.com/safari/</a></li>
<li>Apple: <a href="https://apple.com/">https://apple.com</a></li>
<li>Electron: <a href="https://www.electronjs.org/">https://www.electronjs.org/</a></li>
<li>Firefox: <a href="https://www.firefox.com/">https://www.firefox.com/</a></li>
<li>Dia: <a href="https://www.diabrowser.com/">https://www.diabrowser.com/</a></li>
<li>OpenAI Atlas: <a href="https://chatgpt.com/atlas/">https://chatgpt.com/atlas/</a></li>
<li>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/">https://www.tiktok.com/</a></li>
<li>NVidia: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/">https://www.nvidia.com/</a></li>
<li>Linux: <a href="https://www.linux.org/">https://www.linux.org/</a></li>
<li>Mac Mini: <a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/">https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu: <a href="https://ubuntu.com/">https://ubuntu.com/</a></li>
<li>LG 5k Display: <a href="https://www.lg.com/us/collections/5k-monitors">https://www.lg.com/us/collections/5k-monitors</a></li>
<li>Apple XDR Display: <a href="https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/">https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/</a></li>
<li>Snap: <a href="https://snapcraft.io/">https://snapcraft.io/</a></li>
<li>Arch Linux: <a href="https://archlinux.org/">https://archlinux.org/</a></li>
<li>Taco Bell: <a href="https://www.tacobell.com/">https://www.tacobell.com/</a></li>
<li>Bimby Cooker: <a href="https://www.thermomix.com/">https://www.thermomix.com/</a></li>
<li>Vitamix: <a href="https://www.vitamix.com/">https://www.vitamix.com/</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Ep 218: How to Build a Career When the Rules Keep Changing w/ Taylor Desseyn &amp; Jason Torres: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/how-to-build-a-career-when-the-rules-keep-changing-w-taylor-desseyn-jason-torres">https://whiskey.fm/how-to-build-a-career-when-the-rules-keep-changing-w-taylor-desseyn-jason-torres</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>SOC 2 in the Streets, Spaghetti in the Sheets</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KF77Y4Z63FVGDHYWVEP163H2/podcast-image-1767970120.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3525</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>225</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Chuck sip Jack Daniel&amp;rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye, and discuss why SOC 2 compliance is a painful but necessary sign of company maturity. They also dig into AI coding tools, React fatigue, and the growing frustration of modern developer workflows.
In this episode:

(00:00) &amp;ndash; Intro
(01:43) &amp;ndash; Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jack Daniel&amp;rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye
(09:15) &amp;ndash; Why SOC 2 compliance is a painful rite of passage
(11:55) &amp;ndash; AI-powered workflows and where they break down
(18:55) &amp;ndash; Do we still need new frameworks?
(20:58) &amp;ndash; Framework fatigue and the React hangover
(26:51) &amp;ndash; The reality of building browser extensions
(29:02) &amp;ndash; Is Firefox dead?
(29:19) &amp;ndash; Who AI-powered browsers are actually for
(31:26) &amp;ndash; Why shipping software on Windows is such a mess
(35:15) &amp;ndash; Juggling operating systems and hardware setups
(37:22) &amp;ndash; Are ultra-expensive PC components actually worth it?
(40:58) &amp;ndash; Shipping Swatch across platforms and dealing with Snap
(42:48) &amp;ndash; The &amp;ldquo;Tacolate,&amp;rdquo; Taco Bell experiments, and questionable food ideas
(46:45) &amp;ndash; What is a Bimby cooker?
(52:57) &amp;ndash; Robbie&amp;rsquo;s septic system saga

Links

Jack Daniel&amp;rsquo;s Single Barrel Rye: https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/single-barrel-rye
Winter Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games
World Cup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Grok: https://grok.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Open Router: https://openrouter.ai/
Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
v0: https://v0.dev/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Lovable: https://lovable.dev/
Replit: https://replit.com/
ShadCN: https://ui.shadcn.com/
Vue: https://vuejs.org/
React: https://react.dev/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
HTMX: https://htmx.org/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/
Express: https://expressjs.com/
Omarchy: https://omarchy.org/
Swatch: https://swatch.dev/
Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows
Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
Apple: https://apple.com
Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/
Firefox: https://www.firefox.com/
Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/
OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/
NVidia: https://www.nvidia.com/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/
Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/
LG 5k Display: https://www.lg.com/us/collections/5k-monitors
Apple XDR Display: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
Snap: https://snapcraft.io/
Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/
Bimby Cooker: https://www.thermomix.com/
Vitamix: https://www.vitamix.com/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Ep 218: How to Build a Career When the Rules Keep Changing w/ Taylor Desseyn &amp; Jason Torres: https://whiskey.fm/how-to-build-a-career-when-the-rules-keep-changing-w-taylor-desseyn-jason-torres

Connect with the hosts

Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

Website: https://whiskey.fm
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mjs796o6h8hnb70w2pot4r7p/thumbnail-mjs796o6h8hnb70w2pot4r7p.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mjs796o6h8hnb70w2pot4r7p/thumbnail-mjs796o6h8hnb70w2pot4r7p.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mgnwn5yyp1g5je37lddygucb/lw5kwctx7kus9pz9ef6376wr/transcoded-01KECKCEZVG5ZK6XJT1PK9A5A4-01KECKCEZV2S407KMCZFJDW0X2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Spooky Scary CSS</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about Halloween vibes, excellent scotch, and the strange state of modern web development. After rating an Orphan Barrel single malt, they dig into AI coding workflows, agent tools, why one-shot prompts so often fail, and more.

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:24) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Orphan Barrel Woven Honor



(07:21) - How AI is (and isn’t) fitting into real dev workflows



(12:01) - The Louvre heist and why bold ideas sometimes work



(17:02) - Anthropic Skills and the future of AI tooling



(19:21) - Why Warp feels like a killer terminal



(20:43) - OpenCode vs. Warp for everyday development



(21:29) - Connecting Cursor and Claude



(22:17) - Navigating AI tools at work



(24:45) - Why AI struggles to follow instructions



(29:51) - Using web components with Preact signals



(30:39) - Are modern web tools over-engineered?



(31:48) - Cucumber, specs, and English as code



(33:43) - Naming the CSS masonry layout problem



(43:32) - Squash vs. merge and automating away the noise



(48:50) - SEO, AIO, and visibility in the age of AI



(53:07) - Does AI understand podcasts at all?



(53:21) - A fun CSS @important alternative



(54:22) - Don&#39;t ignore ESLint in PRs



(55:37) - Why gatekeeping helps no one



(57:12) - Don&#39;t be afraid to ask for help



(58:04) - Halloween plans



(01:00:10) - Plugs

Links





Orphan Barrel Woven Honor: https://www.orphanbarrel.com/



Ep 223: The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano: https://whiskey.fm/the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w-david-k-piano



Nikka Whisky: https://www.nikka.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Beyond Tellerrand: https://beyondtellerrand.com/



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Gamma: https://gamma.app/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Preact: https://preactjs.com/



Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/



Android: https://www.android.com/



Cucumber: https://cucumber.io/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Docker: https://www.docker.com/



Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/



CSS Grid: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



Sass: https://sass-lang.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Prettier: https://prettier.io/



ESLint: https://eslint.org/



Ep 212: TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards: https://whiskey.fm/talkshop-show-w-macho-man-randy-standards



Front End Happy Hour Podcast: https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/



ShopTalk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/



Syntax: https://syntax.fm/



We Might Be Drunk: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin



Zombies Ate My Neighbors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors



It&#39;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It&#39;s_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia



Wayne&#39;s World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne&#39;s_World_(film)



Super Mario: https://mario.nintendo.com/



Vite: https://vite.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





Website: https://whiskey.fm



Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf



Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">21638f78-e930-4609-b257-e8f7bb815a00</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ksv0pynyvayp41rfgdteepl4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam talk about Halloween vibes, excellent scotch, and the strange state of modern web development. After rating an Orphan Barrel single malt, they dig into AI coding workflows, agent tools, why one-shot prompts so often fail, and more.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) - Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:24) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Orphan Barrel Woven Honor</li><li class="list-item-node">(07:21) - How AI is (and isn’t) fitting into real dev workflows</li><li class="list-item-node">(12:01) - The Louvre heist and why bold ideas sometimes work</li><li class="list-item-node">(17:02) - Anthropic Skills and the future of AI tooling</li><li class="list-item-node">(19:21) - Why Warp feels like a killer terminal</li><li class="list-item-node">(20:43) - OpenCode vs. Warp for everyday development</li><li class="list-item-node">(21:29) - Connecting Cursor and Claude</li><li class="list-item-node">(22:17) - Navigating AI tools at work</li><li class="list-item-node">(24:45) - Why AI struggles to follow instructions</li><li class="list-item-node">(29:51) - Using web components with Preact signals</li><li class="list-item-node">(30:39) - Are modern web tools over-engineered?</li><li class="list-item-node">(31:48) - Cucumber, specs, and English as code</li><li class="list-item-node">(33:43) - Naming the CSS masonry layout problem</li><li class="list-item-node">(43:32) - Squash vs. merge and automating away the noise</li><li class="list-item-node">(48:50) - SEO, AIO, and visibility in the age of AI</li><li class="list-item-node">(53:07) - Does AI understand podcasts at all?</li><li class="list-item-node">(53:21) - A fun CSS @important alternative</li><li class="list-item-node">(54:22) - Don't ignore ESLint in PRs</li><li class="list-item-node">(55:37) - Why gatekeeping helps no one</li><li class="list-item-node">(57:12) - Don't be afraid to ask for help</li><li class="list-item-node">(58:04) - Halloween plans</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:00:10) - Plugs</li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Orphan Barrel Woven Honor: <a class="link" href="https://www.orphanbarrel.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.orphanbarrel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ep 223: The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w-david-k-piano" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm/the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w-david-k-piano</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Nikka Whisky: <a class="link" href="https://www.nikka.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.nikka.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">GitHub: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Jira: <a class="link" href="https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a class="link" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a class="link" href="https://www.python.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Beyond Tellerrand: <a class="link" href="https://beyondtellerrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://beyondtellerrand.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS: <a class="link" href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a class="link" href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gamma: <a class="link" href="https://gamma.app/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://gamma.app/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Warp: <a class="link" href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Svelte: <a class="link" href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cursor: <a class="link" href="https://www.cursor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Copilot: <a class="link" href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Gemini: <a class="link" href="https://gemini.google.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ChatGPT: <a class="link" href="https://chatgpt.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">IBM: <a class="link" href="https://www.ibm.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Preact: <a class="link" href="https://preactjs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://preactjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Starpod.dev: <a class="link" href="https://starpod.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://starpod.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Android: <a class="link" href="https://www.android.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.android.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cucumber: <a class="link" href="https://cucumber.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://cucumber.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ember: <a class="link" href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Docker: <a class="link" href="https://www.docker.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.docker.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Pinterest: <a class="link" href="https://www.pinterest.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.pinterest.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS Grid: <a class="link" href="https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp</a></li><li class="list-item-node">JavaScript: <a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Sass: <a class="link" href="https://sass-lang.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://sass-lang.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Prettier: <a class="link" href="https://prettier.io/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://prettier.io/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ESLint: <a class="link" href="https://eslint.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://eslint.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ep 212: TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/talkshop-show-w-macho-man-randy-standards" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm/talkshop-show-w-macho-man-randy-standards</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Front End Happy Hour Podcast: <a class="link" href="https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ShopTalk Show: <a class="link" href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Syntax: <a class="link" href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://syntax.fm/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">We Might Be Drunk: <a class="link" href="https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CascadiaJS: <a class="link" href="https://cascadiajs.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rick Rubin: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Zombies Ate My Neighbors: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors</a></li><li class="list-item-node">It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Wayne's World: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne's_World_(film)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne's_World_(film)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Super Mario: <a class="link" href="https://mario.nintendo.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mario.nintendo.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vite: <a class="link" href="https://vite.dev/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://vite.dev/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Spooky Scary CSS</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KEYJB50YBJB0HWP3B0CFHJF4/podcast-image-1768404858.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3807</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>224</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about Halloween vibes, excellent scotch, and the strange state of modern web development. After rating an Orphan Barrel single malt, they dig into AI coding workflows, agent tools, why one-shot prompts so often fail, and more.

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:24) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Orphan Barrel Woven Honor



(07:21) - How AI is (and isn’t) fitting into real dev workflows



(12:01) - The Louvre heist and why bold ideas sometimes work



(17:02) - Anthropic Skills and the future of AI tooling



(19:21) - Why Warp feels like a killer terminal



(20:43) - OpenCode vs. Warp for everyday development



(21:29) - Connecting Cursor and Claude



(22:17) - Navigating AI tools at work



(24:45) - Why AI struggles to follow instructions



(29:51) - Using web components with Preact signals



(30:39) - Are modern web tools over-engineered?



(31:48) - Cucumber, specs, and English as code



(33:43) - Naming the CSS masonry layout problem



(43:32) - Squash vs. merge and automating away the noise



(48:50) - SEO, AIO, and visibility in the age of AI



(53:07) - Does AI understand podcasts at all?



(53:21) - A fun CSS @important alternative



(54:22) - Don&#39;t ignore ESLint in PRs



(55:37) - Why gatekeeping helps no one



(57:12) - Don&#39;t be afraid to ask for help



(58:04) - Halloween plans



(01:00:10) - Plugs

Links





Orphan Barrel Woven Honor: https://www.orphanbarrel.com/



Ep 223: The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano: https://whiskey.fm/the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w-david-k-piano



Nikka Whisky: https://www.nikka.com/



GitHub: https://github.com/



Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira



Claude: https://claude.ai/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Beyond Tellerrand: https://beyondtellerrand.com/



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



Astro: https://astro.build/



Gamma: https://gamma.app/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Warp: https://www.warp.dev/



Svelte: https://svelte.dev/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/



Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot



Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



IBM: https://www.ibm.com/



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



Preact: https://preactjs.com/



Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/



Android: https://www.android.com/



Cucumber: https://cucumber.io/



Ember: https://emberjs.com/



Docker: https://www.docker.com/



Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/



CSS Grid: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



Sass: https://sass-lang.com/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Prettier: https://prettier.io/



ESLint: https://eslint.org/



Ep 212: TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards: https://whiskey.fm/talkshop-show-w-macho-man-randy-standards



Front End Happy Hour Podcast: https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/



ShopTalk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/



Syntax: https://syntax.fm/



We Might Be Drunk: https://wemightbedrunkpod.com/



CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/



Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin



Zombies Ate My Neighbors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombies_Ate_My_Neighbors



It&#39;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It&#39;s_Always_Sunny_in_Philadelphia



Wayne&#39;s World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne&#39;s_World_(film)



Super Mario: https://mario.nintendo.com/



Vite: https://vite.dev/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KEYJ64E9CSBZXDZX12CJVZXV/generated-image__1_.png" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KEYJ64E9CSBZXDZX12CJVZXV/generated-image__1_.png"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ksv0pynyvayp41rfgdteepl4/q4hyao1c319hxbcob3argo3v/transcoded-01KECKCF92HWPPQ74A40CF6W7C-01KECKCF920WSQ20CW058M0RTB_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/ksv0pynyvayp41rfgdteepl4.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano</title><description>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with David K. Piano about state machines, the chaos of overusing React hooks, Tailwind controversies, AI agents, security risks in emerging AI tooling, and why determinism still matters. They also chat about pianos, creativity, and finding grounding outside of tech.

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:40) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt



(06:54) - Hot Take: Is useState still dead to David?



(08:34) - Hot Take: Was class-based React better?



(11:12) - Tailwind tip: Don’t sleep on child selectors



(14:47) - Hot Take: Are HTML &amp; CSS programming languages?



(17:42) - Is Tailwind &#34; the worst state management library&#34;?



(22:24) - How a “simple boolean” exploded into a state tree



(24:13) - Debouncing, guarding, and timing transitions in state machines



(25:28) - Hot Take: Rails or Laravel



(26:19) - Why batteries-included frameworks struggle in JavaScript



(29:06) - Will AI push developers toward opinionated frameworks or away from them?



(34:44) - What Claude Skills are and why they matter



(36:47) - The newest AI hacks and whether you should be worried



(42:42) - Why David loves state machines (and how they keep AI on the rails)



(50:38) - David&#39;s love for the piano and having a non-tech hobby



(51:45) - What David would do if not in tech



(52:22) - Does playing an instrument make you a better programmer?



(57:39) - Plugs

Links





Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt: https://www.nikka.com/



Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old



React Summit: https://reactsummit.com/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Angular: https://angular.dev/



Backbone: http://backbonejs.org/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp



Astro: https://astro.build/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/



Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/



Laravel: https://laravel.com/



Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Phoenix: https://www.phoenixframework.org/



Elixir: https://elixir-lang.org/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Tom Preston-Werner: https://x.com/mojombo



RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/



PHP: https://www.php.net/



Remix: https://remix.run/



Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin



Claude Skills: https://claude.com/blog/skills



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



The &#34;lethal trifecta&#34; in AI browsers: https://bsky.app/profile/f3rmi.bsky.social/post/3m3oe4ky4us2c



OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/



Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/



Comet: https://www.perplexity.ai/comet



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Node: https://nodejs.org/



Deno: https://deno.com/



Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Vite: https://vite.dev/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



Ep 200: The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller &amp; Rishi Malik: https://whiskey.fm/the-one-rye-to-rule-them-all-w-kendall-miller-rishi-malik



Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/



VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com



Parasite Eve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Eve_(video_game)



Stately: https://state.new/

Connect with David





Website: https://stately.ai/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/DavidKPiano/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603



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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603



YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot

Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">2aca4dc6-3d3b-49b6-b809-1636a9e3a583</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/o3i3atq7ibiluszfy9yguzt4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">This week, Robbie and Adam talk with David K. Piano about state machines, the chaos of overusing React hooks, Tailwind controversies, AI agents, security risks in emerging AI tooling, and why determinism still matters. They also chat about pianos, creativity, and finding grounding outside of tech.</p><p class="text-node">In this episode:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">(00:00) - Intro</li><li class="list-item-node">(01:40) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt</li><li class="list-item-node">(06:54) - Hot Take: Is useState still dead to David?</li><li class="list-item-node">(08:34) - Hot Take: Was class-based React better?</li><li class="list-item-node">(11:12) - Tailwind tip: Don’t sleep on child selectors</li><li class="list-item-node">(14:47) - Hot Take: Are HTML &amp; CSS programming languages?</li><li class="list-item-node">(17:42) - Is Tailwind " the worst state management library"?</li><li class="list-item-node">(22:24) - How a “simple boolean” exploded into a state tree</li><li class="list-item-node">(24:13) - Debouncing, guarding, and timing transitions in state machines</li><li class="list-item-node">(25:28) - Hot Take: Rails or Laravel</li><li class="list-item-node">(26:19) - Why batteries-included frameworks struggle in JavaScript</li><li class="list-item-node">(29:06) - Will AI push developers toward opinionated frameworks or away from them?</li><li class="list-item-node">(34:44) - What Claude Skills are and why they matter</li><li class="list-item-node">(36:47) - The newest AI hacks and whether you should be worried</li><li class="list-item-node">(42:42) - Why David loves state machines (and how they keep AI on the rails)</li><li class="list-item-node">(50:38) - David's love for the piano and having a non-tech hobby</li><li class="list-item-node">(51:45) - What David would do if not in tech</li><li class="list-item-node">(52:22) - Does playing an instrument make you a better programmer?</li><li class="list-item-node">(57:39) - Plugs</li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Links</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt: <a class="link" href="https://www.nikka.com/">https://www.nikka.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: <a class="link" href="https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old">https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old</a></li><li class="list-item-node">React Summit: <a class="link" href="https://reactsummit.com/">https://reactsummit.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Cloudflare: <a class="link" href="https://www.cloudflare.com/">https://www.cloudflare.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Angular: <a class="link" href="https://angular.dev/">https://angular.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Backbone: <a class="link" href="http://backbonejs.org/">http://backbonejs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tailwind CSS: <a class="link" href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude: <a class="link" href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai</a></li><li class="list-item-node">CSS: <a class="link" href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">JavaScript: <a class="link" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li class="list-item-node">C++: <a class="link" href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Astro: <a class="link" href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Shopify: <a class="link" href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Reddit: <a class="link" href="https://www.reddit.com/">https://www.reddit.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rails: <a class="link" href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Laravel: <a class="link" href="https://laravel.com/">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Django: <a class="link" href="https://www.djangoproject.com/">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Python: <a class="link" href="https://www.python.org/">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Phoenix: <a class="link" href="https://www.phoenixframework.org/">https://www.phoenixframework.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Elixir: <a class="link" href="https://elixir-lang.org/">https://elixir-lang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Next.js: <a class="link" href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tom Preston-Werner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/mojombo">https://x.com/mojombo</a></li><li class="list-item-node">RedwoodJS: <a class="link" href="https://redwoodjs.com/">https://redwoodjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">PHP: <a class="link" href="https://www.php.net/">https://www.php.net/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Remix: <a class="link" href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Rick Rubin: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Claude Skills: <a class="link" href="https://claude.com/blog/skills">https://claude.com/blog/skills</a></li><li class="list-item-node">TypeScript: <a class="link" href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">The "lethal trifecta" in AI browsers: <a class="link" href="https://bsky.app/profile/f3rmi.bsky.social/post/3m3oe4ky4us2c">https://bsky.app/profile/f3rmi.bsky.social/post/3m3oe4ky4us2c</a></li><li class="list-item-node">OpenAI Atlas: <a class="link" href="https://chatgpt.com/atlas/">https://chatgpt.com/atlas/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Dia: <a class="link" href="https://www.diabrowser.com/">https://www.diabrowser.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Comet: <a class="link" href="https://www.perplexity.ai/comet">https://www.perplexity.ai/comet</a></li><li class="list-item-node">ChatGPT: <a class="link" href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Anthropic: <a class="link" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Node: <a class="link" href="https://nodejs.org/">https://nodejs.org/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Deno: <a class="link" href="https://deno.com/">https://deno.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Tesla: <a class="link" href="https://www.tesla.com/">https://www.tesla.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Opencode: <a class="link" href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Vite: <a class="link" href="https://vite.dev/">https://vite.dev/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">NPM: <a class="link" href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Ep 200: The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller &amp; Rishi Malik: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/the-one-rye-to-rule-them-all-w-kendall-miller-rishi-malik">https://whiskey.fm/the-one-rye-to-rule-them-all-w-kendall-miller-rishi-malik</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Netflix: <a class="link" href="https://www.netflix.com/">https://www.netflix.com/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">VS Code: <a class="link" href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Parasite Eve: <a class="link" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Eve_(video_game)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Eve_(video_game)</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Stately: <a class="link" href="https://state.new/">https://state.new/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with David</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://stately.ai/">https://stately.ai/</a></li><li class="list-item-node">X / Twitter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/DavidKPiano/">https://x.com/DavidKPiano/</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Robbie Wagner: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Chuck Carpenter: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Adam Argyle: <a class="link" href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Website: <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Apple Podcasts: <a class="link" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Spotify: <a class="link" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li class="list-item-node">Overcast: <a class="link" href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li class="list-item-node">YouTube: <a class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p class="text-node"><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a class="link" href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Piano Man of State Machines w/ David K. Piano</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/01KF3X7SGRBM2VN0R8PQAKG2AF/episode-223-the-piano-man-of-state-machines-w--david-k.-piano-artwork.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3617</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>223</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with David K. Piano about state machines, the chaos of overusing React hooks, Tailwind controversies, AI agents, security risks in emerging AI tooling, and why determinism still matters. They also chat about pianos, creativity, and finding grounding outside of tech.

In this episode:





(00:00) - Intro



(01:40) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt



(06:54) - Hot Take: Is useState still dead to David?



(08:34) - Hot Take: Was class-based React better?



(11:12) - Tailwind tip: Don’t sleep on child selectors



(14:47) - Hot Take: Are HTML &amp; CSS programming languages?



(17:42) - Is Tailwind &#34; the worst state management library&#34;?



(22:24) - How a “simple boolean” exploded into a state tree



(24:13) - Debouncing, guarding, and timing transitions in state machines



(25:28) - Hot Take: Rails or Laravel



(26:19) - Why batteries-included frameworks struggle in JavaScript



(29:06) - Will AI push developers toward opinionated frameworks or away from them?



(34:44) - What Claude Skills are and why they matter



(36:47) - The newest AI hacks and whether you should be worried



(42:42) - Why David loves state machines (and how they keep AI on the rails)



(50:38) - David&#39;s love for the piano and having a non-tech hobby



(51:45) - What David would do if not in tech



(52:22) - Does playing an instrument make you a better programmer?



(57:39) - Plugs

Links





Nikka Miyagikyo Single Malt: https://www.nikka.com/



Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old



React Summit: https://reactsummit.com/



Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/



Angular: https://angular.dev/



Backbone: http://backbonejs.org/



Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/



Claude: https://claude.ai



CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/



JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript



C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp



Astro: https://astro.build/



Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/



Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/



Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/



Laravel: https://laravel.com/



Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/



Python: https://www.python.org/



Phoenix: https://www.phoenixframework.org/



Elixir: https://elixir-lang.org/



Next.js: https://nextjs.org/



Tom Preston-Werner: https://x.com/mojombo



RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/



PHP: https://www.php.net/



Remix: https://remix.run/



Rick Rubin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin



Claude Skills: https://claude.com/blog/skills



TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/



The &#34;lethal trifecta&#34; in AI browsers: https://bsky.app/profile/f3rmi.bsky.social/post/3m3oe4ky4us2c



OpenAI Atlas: https://chatgpt.com/atlas/



Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/



Comet: https://www.perplexity.ai/comet



ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/



Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/



Node: https://nodejs.org/



Deno: https://deno.com/



Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/



Opencode: https://opencode.ai/



Vite: https://vite.dev/



NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/



Ep 200: The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller &amp; Rishi Malik: https://whiskey.fm/the-one-rye-to-rule-them-all-w-kendall-miller-rishi-malik



Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/



VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com



Parasite Eve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Eve_(video_game)



Stately: https://state.new/

Connect with David





Website: https://stately.ai/



X / Twitter: https://x.com/DavidKPiano/

Connect with the hosts





Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner



Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd



Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch





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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qv92s6pr6tlxmnrk2una5wdv/thumbnail-qv92s6pr6tlxmnrk2una5wdv.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qv92s6pr6tlxmnrk2una5wdv/thumbnail-qv92s6pr6tlxmnrk2una5wdv.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o3i3atq7ibiluszfy9yguzt4/v40hc3cuf7dcq5flulryk8ly/transcoded-01KECKCEX966J4JFX7P876PKXN-01KECKCEX9YZR8VJZ8SJZ5PVA3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/o3i3atq7ibiluszfy9yguzt4.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Doing One Thing Exceptionally Well: CodeRabbit’s Approach to AI Code Review</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Erik Thorelli and Hendrik Krack from CodeRabbit about how they&amp;rsquo;re rethinking AI-powered code review, why focus beats feature-bloat, the value of transparency, and how CodeRabbit reduces cognitive load for developers while keeping humans meaningfully in the loop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:45) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:43) - What is CodeRabbit?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:31) - How CodeRabbit actually works: ASTs, tools, and sequence diagrams&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:20) - Open source: free usage, real-world configs, and community behavior&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:05) - What makes CodeRabbit different from other AI code tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:57) - Customizing CodeRabbit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:53) - What&#39;s next for CodeRabbit?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:55) - Where to learn more about CodeRabbit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://iterm2.com/&#34;&gt;https://iterm2.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor Bugbot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cursor.com/bugbot&#34;&gt;https://cursor.com/bugbot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Daneil Roe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://roe.dev/&#34;&gt;https://roe.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Parks and Recreation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.com/&#34;&gt;https://bun.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zig: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34;&gt;https://ziglang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mitchell Hashimoto: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mitchellh&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mitchellh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux Foundation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI Dev Day: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/devday/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/devday/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WWDC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/&#34;&gt;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Assistant UI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.assistant-ui.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.assistant-ui.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Erik&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/esthor&#34;&gt;https://x.com/esthor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Hendrik&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/HKrackDev&#34;&gt;https://x.com/HKrackDev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">038fc45e-3710-4900-9c6f-e63d457068cf</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fvgq6evfxojzrpqxsq9nw6jb.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Erik Thorelli and Hendrik Krack from CodeRabbit about how they&rsquo;re rethinking AI-powered code review, why focus beats feature-bloat, the value of transparency, and how CodeRabbit reduces cognitive load for developers while keeping humans meaningfully in the loop.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(00:45) - Wine rating &amp; review</li>
<li>(01:43) - What is CodeRabbit?</li>
<li>(05:31) - How CodeRabbit actually works: ASTs, tools, and sequence diagrams</li>
<li>(09:20) - Open source: free usage, real-world configs, and community behavior</li>
<li>(15:05) - What makes CodeRabbit different from other AI code tools</li>
<li>(24:57) - Customizing CodeRabbit</li>
<li>(32:53) - What's next for CodeRabbit?</li>
<li>(39:55) - Where to learn more about CodeRabbit</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>CodeRabbit: <a href="https://www.coderabbit.ai/">https://www.coderabbit.ai/</a></li>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>Ghostty: <a href="https://ghostty.org/">https://ghostty.org/</a></li>
<li>iTerm: <a href="https://iterm2.com/">https://iterm2.com/</a></li>
<li>Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li>
<li>Cursor Bugbot: <a href="https://cursor.com/bugbot">https://cursor.com/bugbot</a></li>
<li>Daneil Roe: <a href="https://roe.dev/">https://roe.dev/</a></li>
<li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li>
<li>Windsurf: <a href="https://windsurf.ai/">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li>
<li>Vue: <a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>Svelte: <a href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li>
<li>Parks and Recreation: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation</a></li>
<li>Go: <a href="https://go.dev/">https://go.dev/</a></li>
<li>Bun: <a href="https://bun.com/">https://bun.com/</a></li>
<li>Zig: <a href="https://ziglang.org/">https://ziglang.org/</a></li>
<li>Mitchell Hashimoto: <a href="https://x.com/mitchellh">https://x.com/mitchellh</a></li>
<li>HashiCorp: <a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li>
<li>IBM: <a href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li>
<li>Linux Foundation: <a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/">https://www.linuxfoundation.org/</a></li>
<li>Silicon Valley: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>OpenAI Dev Day: <a href="https://openai.com/devday/">https://openai.com/devday/</a></li>
<li>WWDC: <a href="https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/">https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/</a></li>
<li>Assistant UI: <a href="https://www.assistant-ui.com/">https://www.assistant-ui.com/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Erik</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.coderabbit.ai/">https://www.coderabbit.ai/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/esthor">https://x.com/esthor</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Hendrik</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/HKrackDev">https://x.com/HKrackDev</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:45) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:43) - What is CodeRabbit?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:31) - How CodeRabbit actually works: ASTs, tools, and sequence diagrams&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:20) - Open source: free usage, real-world configs, and community behavior&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:05) - What makes CodeRabbit different from other AI code tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:57) - Customizing CodeRabbit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:53) - What&#39;s next for CodeRabbit?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:55) - Where to learn more about CodeRabbit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://iterm2.com/&#34;&gt;https://iterm2.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor Bugbot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cursor.com/bugbot&#34;&gt;https://cursor.com/bugbot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Daneil Roe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://roe.dev/&#34;&gt;https://roe.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Parks and Recreation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parks_and_Recreation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.com/&#34;&gt;https://bun.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zig: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34;&gt;https://ziglang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mitchell Hashimoto: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mitchellh&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mitchellh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux Foundation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI Dev Day: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/devday/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/devday/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WWDC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/&#34;&gt;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc25/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Assistant UI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.assistant-ui.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.assistant-ui.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Erik&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/esthor&#34;&gt;https://x.com/esthor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Hendrik&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/climateadvocateaienthusiast/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/HKrackDev&#34;&gt;https://x.com/HKrackDev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/av14r615b1vvxqpcrns04mbe/thumbnail-av14r615b1vvxqpcrns04mbe.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/av14r615b1vvxqpcrns04mbe/thumbnail-av14r615b1vvxqpcrns04mbe.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fvgq6evfxojzrpqxsq9nw6jb/pfc4vqohdix66jc1967cre9u/transcoded-01KECKCEDSJMQ00SH8Y9WDPX4J-01KECKCEDSVDSDGS8X6XV1AE9F_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/fvgq6evfxojzrpqxsq9nw6jb.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Are Developers Overthinking Everything? w/ Bdougie</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Bdougie (Brian Douglas) about open source&amp;rsquo;s impact on their careers, the legacy of OpenSauced, and why developer tools succeed&amp;mdash;or don&amp;rsquo;t. They dive into Git philosophy, editor wars, AI&amp;rsquo;s sometimes-chaotic influence on coding, and how strong frameworks like Rails still shape the ecosystem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:11) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:46) - The rise and fall of OpenSauced&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:28) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:59) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:17) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:53) - Hot Take: Sidebar on the right or left in VS Code?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:30) - Who&amp;rsquo;s really to blame when AI goes wrong?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:07) - The impact of open source on Brian&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:26) - Highlights from Brian&#39;s All Things Open talks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:28) - Building with TypeScript agents&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:04) - Light mode vs dark mode&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:36) - The future of AI coding tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:02) - Tips for new developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:53) - How to evaluate AI-generated content&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:31) - Iced coffee preferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:56) - Brian&#39;s game development project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:51) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshcellars.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.joshcellars.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenSauced: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://opensauced.pizza/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IntelliJ: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WebStorm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Sonnet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Counter-Strike: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rainbow Six Rogue Spear: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy&#39;s_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy&#39;s_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SourceForge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sourceforge.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://sourceforge.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://graphql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Haiku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ollama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heroku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.heroku.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.heroku.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brew.sh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://brew.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RenderATL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codex: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/codex/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/codex/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM Granite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/granite&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/granite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dev-end: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dev-end.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://dev-end.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Perplexity: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perplexity.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.perplexity.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sniffly.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sniffly.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://sniffly.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;dltHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dlthub.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://dlthub.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DuckDB: &lt;a href=&#34;https://duckdb.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://duckdb.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mysql.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.mysql.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sora: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/sora/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/sora/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Bottle Coffee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bluebottlecoffee.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://bluebottlecoffee.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Conributor.info: &lt;a href=&#34;https://contributor.info/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://contributor.info/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Nick&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nickyt.online/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://nickyt.online/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/nickytonline&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/nickytonline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Bdougie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://briandouglas.me/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://briandouglas.me/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/bdougieyo&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/bdougieyo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5f2cb528-9ce3-4b19-8e69-1c91bbb4bae9</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ogvb95pmrpj24blp5oz5cnza.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Bdougie (Brian Douglas) about open source&rsquo;s impact on their careers, the legacy of OpenSauced, and why developer tools succeed&mdash;or don&rsquo;t. They dive into Git philosophy, editor wars, AI&rsquo;s sometimes-chaotic influence on coding, and how strong frameworks like Rails still shape the ecosystem.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:11) - Wine rating &amp; review: Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon</li>
<li>(02:46) - The rise and fall of OpenSauced</li>
<li>(03:28) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge</li>
<li>(03:59) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?</li>
<li>(04:17) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li>
<li>(04:53) - Hot Take: Sidebar on the right or left in VS Code?</li>
<li>(08:15) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel</li>
<li>(12:30) - Who&rsquo;s really to blame when AI goes wrong?</li>
<li>(15:07) - The impact of open source on Brian&rsquo;s career</li>
<li>(16:26) - Highlights from Brian's All Things Open talks</li>
<li>(20:28) - Building with TypeScript agents</li>
<li>(30:04) - Light mode vs dark mode</li>
<li>(31:36) - The future of AI coding tools</li>
<li>(46:02) - Tips for new developers</li>
<li>(48:53) - How to evaluate AI-generated content</li>
<li>(50:31) - Iced coffee preferences</li>
<li>(50:56) - Brian's game development project</li>
<li>(51:51) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon: <a href="https://www.joshcellars.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.joshcellars.com/</a></li>
<li>OpenSauced: <a href="https://opensauced.pizza/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opensauced.pizza/</a></li>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Linux: <a href="https://www.linux.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linux.org/</a></li>
<li>HTML: <a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li>
<li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li>
<li>Cursor: <a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>Jason Lengstorf: <a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li>
<li>Neovim: <a href="https://neovim.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://neovim.io/</a></li>
<li>IntelliJ: <a href="https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/</a></li>
<li>WebStorm: <a href="https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/</a></li>
<li>Zed: <a href="https://zed.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://zed.dev/</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://laravel.com/</a></li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Opencode: <a href="https://opencode.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://opencode.ai/</a></li>
<li>Claude Sonnet: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet</a></li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://allthingsopen.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Counter-Strike: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike</a></li>
<li>Rainbow Six Rogue Spear: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear</a></li>
<li>SourceForge: <a href="https://sourceforge.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://sourceforge.net/</a></li>
<li>Microsoft: <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li>
<li>TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li>
<li>GraphQL: <a href="https://graphql.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://graphql.org/</a></li>
<li>Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li>
<li>Claude Haiku: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku</a></li>
<li>OpenAI: <a href="https://openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com</a></li>
<li>Anthropic: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li>
<li>Ollama: <a href="https://ollama.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://ollama.com/</a></li>
<li>CodeRabbit: <a href="https://www.coderabbit.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.coderabbit.ai/</a></li>
<li>HashiCorp: <a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li>
<li>Slack: <a href="https://slack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://slack.com/</a></li>
<li>Heroku: <a href="https://www.heroku.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.heroku.com/</a></li>
<li>Kubernetes: <a href="https://kubernetes.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li>
<li>Homebrew: <a href="https://brew.sh/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://brew.sh/</a></li>
<li>RenderATL: <a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.renderatl.com/</a></li>
<li>Codex: <a href="https://openai.com/codex/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com/codex/</a></li>
<li>IBM Granite: <a href="https://www.ibm.com/granite" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.ibm.com/granite</a></li>
<li>Dev-end: <a href="https://dev-end.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://dev-end.com/</a></li>
<li>Windsurf: <a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li>
<li>Gemini: <a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li>
<li>Perplexity: <a href="https://www.perplexity.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.perplexity.ai/</a></li>
<li>Sniffly.dev: <a href="https://sniffly.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://sniffly.dev/</a></li>
<li>Opus: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus</a></li>
<li>Python: <a href="https://www.python.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.python.org/</a></li>
<li>dltHub: <a href="https://dlthub.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://dlthub.com</a></li>
<li>DuckDB: <a href="https://duckdb.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://duckdb.org/</a></li>
<li>SQL: <a href="https://www.mysql.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.mysql.com/</a></li>
<li>Sora: <a href="https://openai.com/sora/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com/sora/</a></li>
<li>Blue Bottle Coffee: <a href="https://bluebottlecoffee.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://bluebottlecoffee.com/</a></li>
<li>NVidia: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.nvidia.com/</a></li>
<li>Conributor.info: <a href="https://contributor.info/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://contributor.info/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Nick</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://nickyt.online/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://nickyt.online/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nickytonline" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/nickytonline</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Bdougie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://briandouglas.me/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://briandouglas.me/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/bdougieyo" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/bdougieyo</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Are Developers Overthinking Everything? w/ Bdougie</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ogvb95pmrpj24blp5oz5cnza/p1mqs3fwbblkn1g746jeda67.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3280</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>221</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Nick Taylor talk with Bdougie (Brian Douglas) about open source&amp;rsquo;s impact on their careers, the legacy of OpenSauced, and why developer tools succeed&amp;mdash;or don&amp;rsquo;t. They dive into Git philosophy, editor wars, AI&amp;rsquo;s sometimes-chaotic influence on coding, and how strong frameworks like Rails still shape the ecosystem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:11) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:46) - The rise and fall of OpenSauced&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:28) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:59) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:17) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:53) - Hot Take: Sidebar on the right or left in VS Code?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:30) - Who&amp;rsquo;s really to blame when AI goes wrong?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:07) - The impact of open source on Brian&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:26) - Highlights from Brian&#39;s All Things Open talks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:28) - Building with TypeScript agents&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:04) - Light mode vs dark mode&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:36) - The future of AI coding tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:02) - Tips for new developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:53) - How to evaluate AI-generated content&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:31) - Iced coffee preferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:56) - Brian&#39;s game development project&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:51) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshcellars.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.joshcellars.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenSauced: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://opensauced.pizza/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IntelliJ: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WebStorm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Sonnet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Counter-Strike: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rainbow Six Rogue Spear: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy&#39;s_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy&#39;s_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SourceForge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sourceforge.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://sourceforge.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://graphql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Haiku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ollama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heroku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.heroku.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.heroku.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brew.sh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://brew.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RenderATL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codex: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/codex/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/codex/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM Granite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/granite&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/granite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dev-end: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dev-end.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://dev-end.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Perplexity: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perplexity.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.perplexity.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sniffly.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sniffly.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://sniffly.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;dltHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dlthub.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://dlthub.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DuckDB: &lt;a href=&#34;https://duckdb.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://duckdb.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mysql.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.mysql.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sora: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/sora/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/sora/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Bottle Coffee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bluebottlecoffee.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://bluebottlecoffee.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Conributor.info: &lt;a href=&#34;https://contributor.info/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://contributor.info/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Nick&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nickyt.online/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://nickyt.online/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/nickytonline&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/nickytonline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Bdougie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://briandouglas.me/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://briandouglas.me/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/bdougieyo&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/bdougieyo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/jx9tzvml6jq3vkf10nn6z601/thumbnail-jx9tzvml6jq3vkf10nn6z601.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/jx9tzvml6jq3vkf10nn6z601/thumbnail-jx9tzvml6jq3vkf10nn6z601.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ogvb95pmrpj24blp5oz5cnza/zopm5xafvxt20sfca8g7s9mc/transcoded-01KECKCHK8GRVAANJCHRZF9P2D-01KECKCHK8E78DZY72T0D7FJ9C_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/ogvb95pmrpj24blp5oz5cnza.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The Future of Front-End, Vim Wars, and Raising Gamer Kids w/ Nick Taylor</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Nick Taylor about Kubernetes mishaps, DevRel life, front-end nostalgia, CSS wizardry, arcade emulators, and why taste and creativity still matter in an AI-accelerated world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:26) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Cupcake Prosecco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:42) - Casinos, arcades, and emulator nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:45) - Favorite video games and gaming with kids&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:25) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:58) - Fellow tech podcasters and community shoutouts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:48) - Law &amp;amp; Order appreciation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:00) - Life at conferences and returning to ATO&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:49) - &#34;The Commits&#34; Awards&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:13) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:24) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:20) - AI&amp;rsquo;s impact on front-end and who still stands out&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:05) - Nick&amp;rsquo;s shift from front-end to Kubernetes and security&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:40) - How efficient is AI really?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:55) - Robbie&amp;rsquo;s experience using AI in daily work&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:28) - Why no USB-B?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:23) - Customizing MCPs vs. following the spec&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:15) - What Nick would do if not in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:03) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monster Energy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laracon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us/&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://yaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Kubernetes Podcast with Nick: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guinness: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guinness.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.guinness.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jolt Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;del Lago Casino: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dellagoresort.com/&#34;&gt;https://dellagoresort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NESticle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;XBOX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mario.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://mario.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NESticle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Just Dance: &lt;a href=&#34;https://justdancenow.com/&#34;&gt;https://justdancenow.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rihanna: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PS4: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Star Wars Battlefront: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lego Fornite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey&#34;&gt;https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clone Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://clonehero.net/&#34;&gt;https://clonehero.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guitar Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue Pocket: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/pocket&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co/pocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oculus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oculus.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.oculus.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta Quest 3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitKraken: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gitkraken.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.gitkraken.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Terminal.shop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Universe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://githubuniverse.com/&#34;&gt;https://githubuniverse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tomorrow.fm Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order SVU: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vincent D&#39;Onofrio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D&#39;Onofrio&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D&#39;Onofrio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Daredevil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;So I Married an Axe Murderer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 120: Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AWS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McAfee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcafee.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mcafee.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1Password: &lt;a href=&#34;https://1password.com/&#34;&gt;https://1password.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 217: Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes the Hard Way: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way&#34;&gt;https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://block.github.io/goose/&#34;&gt;https://block.github.io/goose/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP Dev Summit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mcpdevsummit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://mcpdevsummit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playwright: &lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34;&gt;https://playwright.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Nick&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nickyt.online/&#34;&gt;https://nickyt.online/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/nickytonline&#34;&gt;https://x.com/nickytonline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">938a762d-7dc2-42ad-9e12-978565998247</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/o9xgx7hp4xd4gmqiqe5eqxdu.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Nick Taylor about Kubernetes mishaps, DevRel life, front-end nostalgia, CSS wizardry, arcade emulators, and why taste and creativity still matter in an AI-accelerated world.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:26) - Wine rating &amp; review: Cupcake Prosecco</li>
<li>(09:42) - Casinos, arcades, and emulator nostalgia</li>
<li>(11:45) - Favorite video games and gaming with kids</li>
<li>(16:25) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge</li>
<li>(19:58) - Fellow tech podcasters and community shoutouts</li>
<li>(22:48) - Law &amp; Order appreciation</li>
<li>(24:00) - Life at conferences and returning to ATO</li>
<li>(24:49) - "The Commits" Awards</li>
<li>(26:13) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?</li>
<li>(26:24) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li>
<li>(29:20) - AI&rsquo;s impact on front-end and who still stands out</li>
<li>(32:05) - Nick&rsquo;s shift from front-end to Kubernetes and security</li>
<li>(36:40) - How efficient is AI really?</li>
<li>(37:55) - Robbie&rsquo;s experience using AI in daily work</li>
<li>(40:28) - Why no USB-B?</li>
<li>(41:23) - Customizing MCPs vs. following the spec</li>
<li>(44:15) - What Nick would do if not in tech</li>
<li>(45:03) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>Monster Energy: <a href="https://www.monsterenergy.com/">https://www.monsterenergy.com/</a></li>
<li>Laracon: <a href="https://laracon.us/">https://laracon.us/</a></li>
<li>Kubernetes: <a href="https://kubernetes.io/">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li>
<li>YAML: <a href="https://yaml.org/">https://yaml.org/</a></li>
<li>Kubernetes: <a href="https://kubernetes.io/">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li>
<li>The Kubernetes Podcast with Nick: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk</a></li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Guinness: <a href="https://www.guinness.com/">https://www.guinness.com/</a></li>
<li>Jolt Cola: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola</a></li>
<li>del Lago Casino: <a href="https://dellagoresort.com/">https://dellagoresort.com/</a></li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>NESticle: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle</a></li>
<li>XBOX: <a href="https://www.xbox.com/">https://www.xbox.com/</a></li>
<li>Super Mario: <a href="https://mario.nintendo.com/">https://mario.nintendo.com/</a></li>
<li>NESticle: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle</a></li>
<li>Just Dance: <a href="https://justdancenow.com/">https://justdancenow.com/</a></li>
<li>Rihanna: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna</a></li>
<li>PS4: <a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/">https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/</a></li>
<li>Star Wars Battlefront: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront</a></li>
<li>Lego Fornite: <a href="https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey">https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey</a></li>
<li>Clone Hero: <a href="https://clonehero.net/">https://clonehero.net/</a></li>
<li>Guitar Hero: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero</a></li>
<li>Analogue Pocket: <a href="https://www.analogue.co/pocket">https://www.analogue.co/pocket</a></li>
<li>Oculus: <a href="https://www.oculus.com/">https://www.oculus.com/</a></li>
<li>Meta Quest 3: <a href="https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/">https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/</a></li>
<li>Minecraft: <a href="https://www.minecraft.net/">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li>
<li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li>
<li>Neovim: <a href="https://neovim.io/">https://neovim.io/</a></li>
<li>GitKraken: <a href="https://www.gitkraken.com/">https://www.gitkraken.com/</a></li>
<li>Primeagen: <a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li>
<li>Terminal.shop: <a href="https://www.terminal.shop/">https://www.terminal.shop/</a></li>
<li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr/">https://x.com/thdxr/</a></li>
<li>GitHub Universe: <a href="https://githubuniverse.com/">https://githubuniverse.com/</a></li>
<li>Tomorrow.fm Podcast: <a href="https://tomorrow.fm/">https://tomorrow.fm/</a></li>
<li>Law &amp; Order SVU: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit</a></li>
<li>Vincent D'Onofrio: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D'Onofrio">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D'Onofrio</a></li>
<li>Daredevil: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Render Conf: <a href="https://www.renderatl.com/">https://www.renderatl.com/</a></li>
<li>So I Married an Axe Murderer: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer</a></li>
<li>HTML: <a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li>
<li>CSS: <a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>Ep 120: Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins">https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink/">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li>
<li>Jason Lengstorf: <a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li>
<li>Web Dev Challenge: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M</a></li>
<li>Shopify: <a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai</a></li>
<li>AWS: <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/">https://aws.amazon.com/</a></li>
<li>McAfee: <a href="https://www.mcafee.com/">https://www.mcafee.com/</a></li>
<li>1Password: <a href="https://1password.com/">https://1password.com/</a></li>
<li>Netlify: <a href="https://www.netlify.com/">https://www.netlify.com/</a></li>
<li>Ep 217: Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones">https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones</a></li>
<li>Kubernetes the Hard Way: <a href="https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way">https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way</a></li>
<li>Sam Altman: <a href="https://x.com/sama">https://x.com/sama</a></li>
<li>TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li>
<li>OpenAI: <a href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com</a></li>
<li>Anthropic: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li>
<li>IBM: <a href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li>
<li>NVidia: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/">https://www.nvidia.com/</a></li>
<li>Goose: <a href="https://block.github.io/goose/">https://block.github.io/goose/</a></li>
<li>MCP Dev Summit: <a href="https://mcpdevsummit.ai/">https://mcpdevsummit.ai/</a></li>
<li>Playwright: <a href="https://playwright.dev/">https://playwright.dev/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/jasonetorres">https://github.com/jasonetorres</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/TasonJorres">https://x.com/TasonJorres</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Nick</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://nickyt.online/">https://nickyt.online/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nickytonline">https://x.com/nickytonline</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Future of Front-End, Vim Wars, and Raising Gamer Kids w/ Nick Taylor</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o9xgx7hp4xd4gmqiqe5eqxdu/i0f87fpteyruo675azjnoyru.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2820</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>220</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Nick Taylor about Kubernetes mishaps, DevRel life, front-end nostalgia, CSS wizardry, arcade emulators, and why taste and creativity still matter in an AI-accelerated world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:26) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Cupcake Prosecco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:42) - Casinos, arcades, and emulator nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:45) - Favorite video games and gaming with kids&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:25) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:58) - Fellow tech podcasters and community shoutouts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:48) - Law &amp;amp; Order appreciation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:00) - Life at conferences and returning to ATO&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:49) - &#34;The Commits&#34; Awards&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:13) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:24) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:20) - AI&amp;rsquo;s impact on front-end and who still stands out&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:05) - Nick&amp;rsquo;s shift from front-end to Kubernetes and security&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:40) - How efficient is AI really?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:55) - Robbie&amp;rsquo;s experience using AI in daily work&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:28) - Why no USB-B?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:23) - Customizing MCPs vs. following the spec&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:15) - What Nick would do if not in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:03) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monster Energy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laracon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us/&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://yaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Kubernetes Podcast with Nick: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhToH2KgMtk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guinness: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guinness.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.guinness.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jolt Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolt_Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;del Lago Casino: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dellagoresort.com/&#34;&gt;https://dellagoresort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NESticle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;XBOX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mario.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://mario.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NESticle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESticle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Just Dance: &lt;a href=&#34;https://justdancenow.com/&#34;&gt;https://justdancenow.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rihanna: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rihanna&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PS4: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps4/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Star Wars Battlefront: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lego Fornite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey&#34;&gt;https://www.fortnite.com/@epic/lego-fortnite-odyssey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clone Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://clonehero.net/&#34;&gt;https://clonehero.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guitar Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue Pocket: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/pocket&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co/pocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oculus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oculus.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.oculus.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta Quest 3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitKraken: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gitkraken.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.gitkraken.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Terminal.shop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Universe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://githubuniverse.com/&#34;&gt;https://githubuniverse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tomorrow.fm Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order SVU: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vincent D&#39;Onofrio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D&#39;Onofrio&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D&#39;Onofrio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Daredevil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;So I Married an Axe Murderer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_I_Married_an_Axe_Murderer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 120: Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/throwback-frameworks-tailwind-fandom-and-css-with-jhey-tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AWS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McAfee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcafee.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mcafee.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1Password: &lt;a href=&#34;https://1password.com/&#34;&gt;https://1password.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 217: Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/open-source-agents-and-the-next-ai-wave-w-angie-jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes the Hard Way: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way&#34;&gt;https://github.com/kelseyhightower/kubernetes-the-hard-way&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://block.github.io/goose/&#34;&gt;https://block.github.io/goose/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP Dev Summit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mcpdevsummit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://mcpdevsummit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playwright: &lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34;&gt;https://playwright.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Nick&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nickyt.online/&#34;&gt;https://nickyt.online/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/nickytonline&#34;&gt;https://x.com/nickytonline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Roxy Rodriquez-Becker about her journey from educator and librarian to aspiring developer, the community supporting her transition, navigating motherhood and advocacy, and how her son&amp;rsquo;s medical challenges inspired her to build a life-changing G-tube feeding app.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Working Edit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:03) - Wine rating and review: San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:35) - Meet Roxy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:04) - From teaching and libraries to tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:38) - How Roxy is learning to code&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(06:24) - Inside the &amp;ldquo;Chosen One&amp;rdquo; series&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:35) - The support systems behind Roxy&#39;s move to coding&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:14) - Navigating a public job hunt and being in the spotlight&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:30) - Roxy&amp;rsquo;s advice for getting out of your comfort zone&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:43) - Roxy&amp;rsquo;s background in content creation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:35) - How Roxy juggles parenting, work, and learning to code&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:51) - How her son&amp;rsquo;s medical journey inspired the Tube Feed app&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:03) - Why advocating for yourself is harder than advocating for others&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:00) - What pulled Roxy back into tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:01) - Growing up Cuban and Catholic&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:30) - How Roxy&#39;s upbringing shapes how she raises her kids&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:33) - Why Roxy chose software engineering specifically&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:33) - Robbie&#39;s biggest strength and biggest weakness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:27) - Guilty pleasure TV shows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:43) - What success looks like for Roxy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:41) - Where to find Roxy online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sansimeonwines.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.sansimeonwines.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://costco.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tube Feed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Magnolia Conf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://magnoliaconf.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://magnoliaconf.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;freeCodeCamp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.freecodecamp.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.freecodecamp.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;#100Devs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://100devs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://100devs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chosen One:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roxy&#39;s Treating LinkedIn Like a Blog:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order SVU:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NBC Peacock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Below Deck:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Real Housewives:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Bachelor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Love Island:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Roxy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/roxanacodes&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/roxanacodes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Roxy Rodriquez-Becker about her journey from educator and librarian to aspiring developer, the community supporting her transition, navigating motherhood and advocacy, and how her son&rsquo;s medical challenges inspired her to build a life-changing G-tube feeding app.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Working Edit</li>
<li>(01:03) - Wine rating and review: San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon</li>
<li>(02:35) - Meet Roxy</li>
<li>(03:04) - From teaching and libraries to tech</li>
<li>(05:38) - How Roxy is learning to code</li>
<li>(06:24) - Inside the &ldquo;Chosen One&rdquo; series</li>
<li>(07:35) - The support systems behind Roxy's move to coding</li>
<li>(09:14) - Navigating a public job hunt and being in the spotlight</li>
<li>(11:30) - Roxy&rsquo;s advice for getting out of your comfort zone</li>
<li>(12:43) - Roxy&rsquo;s background in content creation</li>
<li>(14:35) - How Roxy juggles parenting, work, and learning to code</li>
<li>(16:51) - How her son&rsquo;s medical journey inspired the Tube Feed app</li>
<li>(28:03) - Why advocating for yourself is harder than advocating for others</li>
<li>(30:00) - What pulled Roxy back into tech</li>
<li>(32:01) - Growing up Cuban and Catholic</li>
<li>(35:30) - How Roxy's upbringing shapes how she raises her kids</li>
<li>(36:33) - Why Roxy chose software engineering specifically</li>
<li>(38:33) - Robbie's biggest strength and biggest weakness</li>
<li>(39:27) - Guilty pleasure TV shows</li>
<li>(40:43) - What success looks like for Roxy</li>
<li>(42:41) - Where to find Roxy online</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sansimeonwines.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.sansimeonwines.com/</a></li>
<li>Costco:&nbsp;<a href="https://costco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://costco.com</a></li>
<li>Tube Feed:&nbsp;<a href="https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/</a></li>
<li>Magnolia Conf:&nbsp;<a href="https://magnoliaconf.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://magnoliaconf.com/</a></li>
<li>freeCodeCamp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.freecodecamp.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.freecodecamp.org/</a></li>
<li>#100Devs:&nbsp;<a href="https://100devs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://100devs.org/</a></li>
<li>Chosen One:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Torc:&nbsp;<a href="https://torc.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://torc.dev</a></li>
<li>Roxy's Treating LinkedIn Like a Blog:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub</a></li>
<li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://openai.com</a></li>
<li>Law &amp; Order SVU:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit</a></li>
<li>NBC Peacock:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock</a></li>
<li>Below Deck:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck</a></li>
<li>The Real Housewives:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives</a></li>
<li>The Bachelor:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Love Island:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/jasonetorres" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://github.com/jasonetorres</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/TasonJorres" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/TasonJorres</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Roxy</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/roxanacodes" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/roxanacodes</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
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<li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
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&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie and guest co-host Jason Torres talk with Roxy Rodriquez-Becker about her journey from educator and librarian to aspiring developer, the community supporting her transition, navigating motherhood and advocacy, and how her son&amp;rsquo;s medical challenges inspired her to build a life-changing G-tube feeding app.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Working Edit&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:03) - Wine rating and review: San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:35) - Meet Roxy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:04) - From teaching and libraries to tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:38) - How Roxy is learning to code&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(06:24) - Inside the &amp;ldquo;Chosen One&amp;rdquo; series&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:35) - The support systems behind Roxy&#39;s move to coding&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:14) - Navigating a public job hunt and being in the spotlight&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:30) - Roxy&amp;rsquo;s advice for getting out of your comfort zone&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:43) - Roxy&amp;rsquo;s background in content creation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:35) - How Roxy juggles parenting, work, and learning to code&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:51) - How her son&amp;rsquo;s medical journey inspired the Tube Feed app&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:03) - Why advocating for yourself is harder than advocating for others&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:00) - What pulled Roxy back into tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:01) - Growing up Cuban and Catholic&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:30) - How Roxy&#39;s upbringing shapes how she raises her kids&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:33) - Why Roxy chose software engineering specifically&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:33) - Robbie&#39;s biggest strength and biggest weakness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:27) - Guilty pleasure TV shows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:43) - What success looks like for Roxy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:41) - Where to find Roxy online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;San Simeon Cabernet Sauvignon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sansimeonwines.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.sansimeonwines.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://costco.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tube Feed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://tubefeedratecalculator.vercel.app/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Magnolia Conf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://magnoliaconf.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://magnoliaconf.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;freeCodeCamp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.freecodecamp.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.freecodecamp.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;#100Devs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://100devs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://100devs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chosen One:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chosen_One_(2023_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roxy&#39;s Treating LinkedIn Like a Blog:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/roxana-rodriguez-becker_100devs-momswhocode-womenintech-activity-7287884373817802755-KOub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order SVU:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&amp;amp;_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NBC Peacock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://www.nbc.com/networks/peacock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Below Deck:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Below_Deck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Real Housewives:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Bachelor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Love Island:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Island_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Roxy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://roxanarodriguezbecker.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/roxanacodes&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/roxanacodes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:48) - A toast to Busch Light&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:46) - Meet Taylor and Jason&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:14) - Is now a good time to get into tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:12) - How AI is reshaping the tech job market&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:07) - Standing out in a crowded industry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:36) - Can open source help you get hired?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:48) - Will Shane Beamer head to Virginia Tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:13) - Do pro athletes really make too much money?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - Should politicians be paid like CEOs?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:43) - What it means to be an authentic creator&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:07) - How Torc is chasing greatness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:01) - Is AI killing organic content growth?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:26) - Parenting, perspective, and balance&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:20) - Where to connect with Taylor and Jason online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Busch Light:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.busch.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.busch.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 216: Why Open Source Might Be Your Best Career Move w/ Shruti Kapoor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Office:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dragonberry Bacardi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/&#34;&gt;https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goldschlager:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html&#34;&gt;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jagermeister:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jagermeister.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.jagermeister.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guidance Counselor 2.0 podcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2&#34;&gt;https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 493 - Pretending to Have The Job Before You Get It w/ Josh Cirre, DevRel @ Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cobol:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.x.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.x.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor&#39;s All Things Open talk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mr. Beast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kai Cenat:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;.NET:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor&#39;s YouTube Channel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Carolina Gamecocks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gamecocksonline.com/&#34;&gt;https://gamecocksonline.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shane Beamer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.vt.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James Franklin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pennsylvania State University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.psu.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.psu.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaNorris Sellers:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Patrick Mahomes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kansas City Chiefs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chiefs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.chiefs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Instagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bain:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bain.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bain.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McKinsey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mckinsey.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mckinsey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barstool Sports:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barstoolsports.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.barstoolsports.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc Community:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/community&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev/community&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/discord&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev/discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Taylor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn&#34;&gt;https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tdesseyn&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">70d19dbc-51c0-4fba-9784-52200e707345</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fkgzk2zm7uoq3f01ktpw19bt.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie talks with Taylor Desseyn and Jason Torres about the future of tech careers, AI&rsquo;s impact on hiring, and why relationships still matter more than r&eacute;sum&eacute;s. They share insights from years in recruiting and community building, stressing that genuine connection&mdash;not cold applications&mdash;opens doors in today&rsquo;s market.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:48) - A toast to Busch Light</li>
<li>(05:46) - Meet Taylor and Jason</li>
<li>(08:14) - Is now a good time to get into tech?</li>
<li>(13:12) - How AI is reshaping the tech job market</li>
<li>(16:07) - Standing out in a crowded industry</li>
<li>(20:36) - Can open source help you get hired?</li>
<li>(23:48) - Will Shane Beamer head to Virginia Tech?</li>
<li>(25:13) - Do pro athletes really make too much money?</li>
<li>(26:47) - Should politicians be paid like CEOs?</li>
<li>(30:43) - What it means to be an authentic creator</li>
<li>(34:07) - How Torc is chasing greatness</li>
<li>(38:01) - Is AI killing organic content growth?</li>
<li>(39:26) - Parenting, perspective, and balance</li>
<li>(42:20) - Where to connect with Taylor and Jason online</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Busch Light:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.busch.com/">https://www.busch.com/</a></li>
<li>Ep 216: Why Open Source Might Be Your Best Career Move w/ Shruti Kapoor:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor">https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor</a></li>
<li>Jason Lengstorf:&nbsp;<a href="https://jason.energy/">https://jason.energy/</a></li>
<li>Costco:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.costco.com/">https://www.costco.com</a></li>
<li>The Office:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Dragonberry Bacardi:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/">https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/</a></li>
<li>Goldschlager:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html">https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html</a></li>
<li>Jagermeister:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jagermeister.com/">https://www.jagermeister.com/</a></li>
<li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li>
<li>Guidance Counselor 2.0 podcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2">https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2</a></li>
<li>Ep 493 - Pretending to Have The Job Before You Get It w/ Josh Cirre, DevRel @ Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607</a></li>
<li>Cobol:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>X:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.x.com/">https://www.x.com/</a></li>
<li>LinkedIn:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/">https://www.linkedin.com</a></li>
<li>Discord:&nbsp;<a href="https://discord.com/">https://discord.com</a></li>
<li>Taylor's All Things Open talk:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU</a></li>
<li>Mr. Beast:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast</a></li>
<li>Kai Cenat:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>.NET:&nbsp;<a href="https://dotnet.microsoft.com/">https://dotnet.microsoft.com/</a></li>
<li>Java:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.java.com/">https://www.java.com/</a></li>
<li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li>
<li>Taylor's YouTube Channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn">https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn</a></li>
<li>Slack:&nbsp;<a href="https://slack.com/">https://slack.com/</a></li>
<li>South Carolina Gamecocks:&nbsp;<a href="https://gamecocksonline.com/">https://gamecocksonline.com/</a></li>
<li>Shane Beamer:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer</a></li>
<li>Virginia Tech:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vt.edu/">https://www.vt.edu/</a></li>
<li>James Franklin:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)</a></li>
<li>Pennsylvania State University:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.psu.edu/">https://www.psu.edu</a></li>
<li>LaNorris Sellers:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers</a></li>
<li>Patrick Mahomes:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes</a></li>
<li>Kansas City Chiefs:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chiefs.com/">https://www.chiefs.com/</a></li>
<li>NVidia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nvidia.com/">https://www.nvidia.com/</a></li>
<li>Apple:&nbsp;<a href="https://apple.com/">https://apple.com</a></li>
<li>Elon Musk:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a></li>
<li>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/">https://www.instagram.com/</a></li>
<li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li>
<li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>Bain:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bain.com/">https://www.bain.com/</a></li>
<li>McKinsey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/">https://www.mckinsey.com/</a></li>
<li>Netlify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netlify.com/">https://www.netlify.com/</a></li>
<li>Barstool Sports:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barstoolsports.com/">https://www.barstoolsports.com/</a></li>
<li>Syntax:&nbsp;<a href="https://syntax.fm/">https://syntax.fm/</a></li>
<li>Sentry:&nbsp;<a href="https://sentry.io/">https://Sentry.io/</a></li>
<li>CodeRabbit:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coderabbit.ai/">https://www.coderabbit.ai/</a></li>
<li>Torc:&nbsp;<a href="https://torc.dev/">https://torc.dev</a></li>
<li>Torc Community:&nbsp;<a href="https://torc.dev/community">https://torc.dev/community</a></li>
<li>Torc Discord:&nbsp;<a href="https://torc.dev/discord">https://torc.dev/discord</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Taylor</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn">https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/tdesseyn">https://x.com/tdesseyn</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/jasonetorres">https://github.com/jasonetorres</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/TasonJorres">https://x.com/TasonJorres</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:48) - A toast to Busch Light&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:46) - Meet Taylor and Jason&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:14) - Is now a good time to get into tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:12) - How AI is reshaping the tech job market&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:07) - Standing out in a crowded industry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:36) - Can open source help you get hired?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:48) - Will Shane Beamer head to Virginia Tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:13) - Do pro athletes really make too much money?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - Should politicians be paid like CEOs?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:43) - What it means to be an authentic creator&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:07) - How Torc is chasing greatness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:01) - Is AI killing organic content growth?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:26) - Parenting, perspective, and balance&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:20) - Where to connect with Taylor and Jason online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Busch Light:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.busch.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.busch.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 216: Why Open Source Might Be Your Best Career Move w/ Shruti Kapoor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/why-open-source-might-be-your-best-career-move-w-shruti-kapoor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Office:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dragonberry Bacardi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/&#34;&gt;https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/our-rums/dragonberry-rum/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Goldschlager:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html&#34;&gt;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-brands/goldschlager.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jagermeister:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jagermeister.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.jagermeister.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guidance Counselor 2.0 podcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2&#34;&gt;https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/career-counseling/id1256154656?mt=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 493 - Pretending to Have The Job Before You Get It w/ Josh Cirre, DevRel @ Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-493-pretending-to-have-the-job-before-you-get/id1256154656?i=1000729870607&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cobol:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.x.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.x.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor&#39;s All Things Open talk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV7TO7UEBU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mr. Beast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MrBeast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kai Cenat:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Cenat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;.NET:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor&#39;s YouTube Channel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Carolina Gamecocks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gamecocksonline.com/&#34;&gt;https://gamecocksonline.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shane Beamer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Beamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.vt.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James Franklin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franklin_(American_football_coach)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pennsylvania State University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.psu.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.psu.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaNorris Sellers:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaNorris_Sellers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Patrick Mahomes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Mahomes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kansas City Chiefs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chiefs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.chiefs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVidia:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Instagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bain:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bain.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bain.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McKinsey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mckinsey.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mckinsey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barstool Sports:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barstoolsports.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.barstoolsports.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeRabbit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&#34;&gt;https://www.coderabbit.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc Community:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/community&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev/community&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://torc.dev/discord&#34;&gt;https://torc.dev/discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Taylor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn&#34;&gt;https://linktr.ee/taylordesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tdesseyn&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/jasonetorres&#34;&gt;https://github.com/jasonetorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TasonJorres&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TasonJorres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:18) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:50) - How open source shaped Angie&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:10) - Using MCP when you don&amp;rsquo;t follow every part of the spec&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:06) - Conference season stress &amp;amp; preparing new talks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:41) - Where to find Angie online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 175: Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Block:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://block.xyz/&#34;&gt;https://block.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GooseAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://goose.ai/&#34;&gt;https://goose.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peter Thiel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marc Andreessen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Safari:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/safari/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/safari/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DevRelCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/&#34;&gt;https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angie&#39;s keynote at DevRelCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/&#34;&gt;https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Angie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34;&gt;https://angiejones.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/techgirl1908&#34;&gt;https://x.com/techgirl1908&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d4914aa6-ee75-4a71-8e4e-cc16bac912ec</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/y2uxq866uvxnza32q64i1ji4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf talk with Angie Jones about AI, coding models, and the evolving landscape of open source. They unpack the importance of community-driven tooling, skill gaps in using AI, the future of agentic systems, and why open communities matter in shaping technology.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:18) - Wine rating &amp; review</li>
<li>(03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT</li>
<li>(04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?</li>
<li>(04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li>
<li>(05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?</li>
<li>(09:50) - How open source shaped Angie&rsquo;s career</li>
<li>(14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data</li>
<li>(23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?</li>
<li>(25:10) - Using MCP when you don&rsquo;t follow every part of the spec</li>
<li>(26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?</li>
<li>(31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape</li>
<li>(36:06) - Conference season stress &amp; preparing new talks</li>
<li>(39:41) - Where to find Angie online</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Ep 175: Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones">https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones</a></li>
<li>Block:&nbsp;<a href="https://block.xyz/">https://block.xyz/</a></li>
<li>MCP:&nbsp;<a href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li>
<li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>HTML:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li>
<li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li>
<li>GooseAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://goose.ai/">https://goose.ai/</a></li>
<li>Sam Altman:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/sama">https://x.com/sama</a></li>
<li>Peter Thiel:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel</a></li>
<li>Marc Andreessen:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen</a></li>
<li>Anthropic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li>
<li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/">https://www.youtube.com</a></li>
<li>Kent C. Dodds:&nbsp;<a href="https://kentcdodds.com/">https://kentcdodds.com/</a></li>
<li>Chrome:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/">https://www.google.com/chrome/</a></li>
<li>Safari:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/safari/">https://www.apple.com/safari/</a></li>
<li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>DevRelCon:&nbsp;<a href="https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/">https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/</a></li>
<li>Angie's keynote at DevRelCon:&nbsp;<a href="https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/">https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://jason.energy/">https://jason.energy/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li>
<li>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Angie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://angiejones.tech/">https://angiejones.tech</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/techgirl1908">https://x.com/techgirl1908</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/y2uxq866uvxnza32q64i1ji4/ea0ok4myij38nuyzutvu5whc.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2537</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>217</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf talk with Angie Jones about AI, coding models, and the evolving landscape of open source. They unpack the importance of community-driven tooling, skill gaps in using AI, the future of agentic systems, and why open communities matter in shaping technology.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:18) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:50) - How open source shaped Angie&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:10) - Using MCP when you don&amp;rsquo;t follow every part of the spec&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:06) - Conference season stress &amp;amp; preparing new talks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:41) - Where to find Angie online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 175: Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Block:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://block.xyz/&#34;&gt;https://block.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GooseAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://goose.ai/&#34;&gt;https://goose.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peter Thiel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marc Andreessen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Safari:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/safari/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/safari/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DevRelCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/&#34;&gt;https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angie&#39;s keynote at DevRelCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/&#34;&gt;https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Angie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34;&gt;https://angiejones.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/techgirl1908&#34;&gt;https://x.com/techgirl1908&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:37) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Fre Sparkling Brut&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(06:33) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:11) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:41) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:20) - Hot take: classes vs. functional components&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:13) - Hot Take: Remix, TanStack, or Next.js?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:02) - Hot Take: console.log vs debugger&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:11) - Hot Take: Were React server components a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:42) - How open source changed Shruti&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:23) - The real value of contributing to open source&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:05) - What is the React Foundation and why it matters&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:58) - Highlights from React Conf and new features&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:01) - From Slack engineer to independent creator&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:34) - Choosing what content to make (and why)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:58) - Shruti&amp;rsquo;s dog, discipline, and life lessons&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:01) - What would Shruti do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:30) - Where to find Shruti online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fre Sparkling Brut:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frewines.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frewines.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Bos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PayPal:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.paypal.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TanStack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Conf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://conf.react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://conf.react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Foundation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux Foundation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://home.google.com/welcome/&#34;&gt;https://home.google.com/welcome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shruti&#39;s YouTube Channel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;16 Common React useEffect Mistakes You&amp;rsquo;re Making:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Shruti&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&#34;&gt;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/shrutikapoor08&#34;&gt;https://x.com/shrutikapoor08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1e7ad4e6-2ad6-478a-9c24-4bf8bee1a606</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qd1bxzmvu4s35yqnw8tydg4e.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded at All Things Open 2025, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf chat with developer-turned-creator Shruti Kapoor about her leap from Slack and PayPal to YouTube, the joys and pitfalls of open source, and eternal web dev debates.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:37) - Wine rating &amp; review: Fre Sparkling Brut</li>
<li>(06:33) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge</li>
<li>(09:11) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?</li>
<li>(09:41) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li>
<li>(10:20) - Hot take: classes vs. functional components</li>
<li>(11:13) - Hot Take: Remix, TanStack, or Next.js?</li>
<li>(15:02) - Hot Take: console.log vs debugger</li>
<li>(16:11) - Hot Take: Were React server components a mistake?</li>
<li>(20:42) - How open source changed Shruti&rsquo;s career</li>
<li>(22:23) - The real value of contributing to open source</li>
<li>(26:05) - What is the React Foundation and why it matters</li>
<li>(28:58) - Highlights from React Conf and new features</li>
<li>(31:01) - From Slack engineer to independent creator</li>
<li>(34:34) - Choosing what content to make (and why)</li>
<li>(37:58) - Shruti&rsquo;s dog, discipline, and life lessons</li>
<li>(40:01) - What would Shruti do if not in tech?</li>
<li>(40:30) - Where to find Shruti online</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Fre Sparkling Brut:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.frewines.com/">https://www.frewines.com/</a></li>
<li>Wes Bos:&nbsp;<a href="https://wesbos.com/">https://wesbos.com/</a></li>
<li>Syntax:&nbsp;<a href="https://syntax.fm/">https://syntax.fm/</a></li>
<li>Slack:&nbsp;<a href="https://slack.com/">https://slack.com/</a></li>
<li>PayPal:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.paypal.com/">https://www.paypal.com/</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/">https://www.youtube.com</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>HTML:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li>
<li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>TanStack:&nbsp;<a href="https://tanstack.com/">https://tanstack.com/</a></li>
<li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li>
<li>Remix:&nbsp;<a href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li>
<li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li>
<li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>React Conf:&nbsp;<a href="https://conf.react.dev/">https://conf.react.dev/</a></li>
<li>React Foundation:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation">https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation</a></li>
<li>Linux Foundation:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/">https://www.linuxfoundation.org/</a></li>
<li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li>
<li>Google Home:&nbsp;<a href="https://home.google.com/welcome/">https://home.google.com/welcome/</a></li>
<li>Primeagen:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>MCP:&nbsp;<a href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li>
<li>Shruti's YouTube Channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08">https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08</a></li>
<li>16 Common React useEffect Mistakes You&rsquo;re Making:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Jason</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://jason.energy/">https://jason.energy/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li>
<li>&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Shruti</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://shrutikapoor.dev/">https://shrutikapoor.dev/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/shrutikapoor08">https://x.com/shrutikapoor08</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:37) - Wine rating &amp;amp; review: Fre Sparkling Brut&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(06:33) - Hot Take: git rebase vs. git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:11) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:41) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:20) - Hot take: classes vs. functional components&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:13) - Hot Take: Remix, TanStack, or Next.js?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:02) - Hot Take: console.log vs debugger&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:11) - Hot Take: Were React server components a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:42) - How open source changed Shruti&amp;rsquo;s career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:23) - The real value of contributing to open source&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:05) - What is the React Foundation and why it matters&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:58) - Highlights from React Conf and new features&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:01) - From Slack engineer to independent creator&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:34) - Choosing what content to make (and why)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:58) - Shruti&amp;rsquo;s dog, discipline, and life lessons&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:01) - What would Shruti do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:30) - Where to find Shruti online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fre Sparkling Brut:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frewines.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frewines.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Bos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PayPal:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.paypal.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TanStack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Conf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://conf.react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://conf.react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Foundation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux Foundation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linuxfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://home.google.com/welcome/&#34;&gt;https://home.google.com/welcome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shruti&#39;s YouTube Channel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@shrutikapoor08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;16 Common React useEffect Mistakes You&amp;rsquo;re Making:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOPO2V6MHI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Jason&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy/&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Shruti&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&#34;&gt;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/shrutikapoor08&#34;&gt;https://x.com/shrutikapoor08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:26) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers &amp;amp; sleeper hits you missed&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman&amp;rsquo;s perspective on type systems&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:45) - How StyleX works&amp;mdash;and why it&amp;rsquo;s different from Tailwind&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you&amp;rsquo;d want to merge styles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or &amp;ldquo;spa&amp;rdquo;?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:18) - Naman&amp;rsquo;s journey into writing web specs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:44) - What is link delegation?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:43) - Plugs &amp;amp; where to follow Naman&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old&#34;&gt;https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;amp;_Dragons&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;amp;_Dragons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alien Earth:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ozark:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Bateman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Black Rabbit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slow Horses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slow Horses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StyleX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stylexjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://stylexjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.solidjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;QuickJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs&#34;&gt;https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.dev/&#34;&gt;https://angular.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vanilla Extract:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanilla-extract.style/&#34;&gt;https://vanilla-extract.style/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Theme UI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://theme-ui.com/&#34;&gt;https://theme-ui.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stitches:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stitches.dev/&#34;&gt;https://stitches.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livewire:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel-livewire.com/&#34;&gt;https://laravel-livewire.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/&#34;&gt;https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;morphdom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom&#34;&gt;https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://css-tricks.com/&#34;&gt;https://css-tricks.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.swift.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.swift.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C++:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;esbuild:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://esbuild.github.io/&#34;&gt;https://esbuild.github.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OCaml:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ocaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://ocaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prettier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://prettier.io/&#34;&gt;https://prettier.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Haskell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.haskell.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.haskell.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elm:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elm-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://elm-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://coffeescript.org/&#34;&gt;http://coffeescript.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LightningScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lightningscript.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lightningscript.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Summit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactsummit.com/&#34;&gt;https://reactsummit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solenoid:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/nmn/solenoid&#34;&gt;https://github.com/nmn/solenoid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Naman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nmn.sh/&#34;&gt;https://nmn.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/naman34&#34;&gt;https://x.com/naman34&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c3c83e27-728e-4508-9504-8a5afffeb90a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tkx66fj6c1vf4dwkop75gxu4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Naman Goel about the origins and evolution of StyleX, how it integrates with React and other frameworks, and the pros and cons of different programming languages like Rust, TypeScript, and Swift. They dive into the challenges of building performant, type-safe styling systems, the surprising complexity of theme APIs, designing for developer experience, and more.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:26) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch</li>
<li>(09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers &amp; sleeper hits you missed</li>
<li>(11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript</li>
<li>(14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman&rsquo;s perspective on type systems</li>
<li>(18:45) - How StyleX works&mdash;and why it&rsquo;s different from Tailwind</li>
<li>(21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown</li>
<li>(22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you&rsquo;d want to merge styles</li>
<li>(25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system</li>
<li>(32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro</li>
<li>(36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or &ldquo;spa&rdquo;?</li>
<li>(40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages</li>
<li>(42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise?</li>
<li>(46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it?</li>
<li>(47:18) - Naman&rsquo;s journey into writing web specs</li>
<li>(48:44) - What is link delegation?</li>
<li>(52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated?</li>
<li>(01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build</li>
<li>(01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner?</li>
<li>(01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability</li>
<li>(01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX?</li>
<li>(01:07:43) - Plugs &amp; where to follow Naman</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch:&nbsp;<a href="https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old">https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old</a></li>
<li>South Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li>
<li>Dungeons &amp; Dragons:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;_Dragons">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;_Dragons</a></li>
<li>Alien Earth:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth</a></li>
<li>Ozark:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Jason Bateman:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman</a></li>
<li>Black Rabbit:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit</a></li>
<li>Slow Horses:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses</a></li>
<li>Slow Horses:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses</a></li>
<li>Typescript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li>
<li>StyleX:&nbsp;<a href="https://stylexjs.com/">https://stylexjs.com/</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li>
<li>SolidJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Svelte:&nbsp;<a href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li>
<li>Vue:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li>
<li>QuickJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs">https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs</a></li>
<li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Angular:&nbsp;<a href="https://angular.dev/">https://angular.dev/</a></li>
<li>Vanilla Extract:&nbsp;<a href="https://vanilla-extract.style/">https://vanilla-extract.style/</a></li>
<li>Chrome:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/">https://www.google.com/chrome/</a></li>
<li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/">https://www.php.net/</a></li>
<li>Figma:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.figma.com/">https://www.figma.com/</a></li>
<li>Theme UI:&nbsp;<a href="https://theme-ui.com/">https://theme-ui.com/</a></li>
<li>Stitches:&nbsp;<a href="https://stitches.dev/">https://stitches.dev/</a></li>
<li>Starpod.dev:&nbsp;<a href="https://starpod.dev/">https://starpod.dev/</a></li>
<li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>Livewire:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel-livewire.com/">https://laravel-livewire.com/</a></li>
<li>Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions:&nbsp;<a href="https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/">https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/</a></li>
<li>morphdom:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom">https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom</a></li>
<li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/">https://htmx.org/</a></li>
<li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li>
<li>CSS-Tricks:&nbsp;<a href="https://css-tricks.com/">https://css-tricks.com/</a></li>
<li>Swift:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.swift.org/">https://www.swift.org/</a></li>
<li>Python:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.python.org/">https://www.python.org/</a></li>
<li>C++:&nbsp;<a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp</a></li>
<li>Go:&nbsp;<a href="https://go.dev/">https://go.dev/</a></li>
<li>esbuild:&nbsp;<a href="https://esbuild.github.io/">https://esbuild.github.io/</a></li>
<li>OCaml:&nbsp;<a href="https://ocaml.org/">https://ocaml.org/</a></li>
<li>Prettier:&nbsp;<a href="https://prettier.io/">https://prettier.io/</a></li>
<li>Haskell:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.haskell.org/">https://www.haskell.org/</a></li>
<li>Elm:&nbsp;<a href="https://elm-lang.org/">https://elm-lang.org/</a></li>
<li>CoffeeScript:&nbsp;<a href="http://coffeescript.org/">http://coffeescript.org/</a></li>
<li>LightningScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://lightningscript.dev/">https://lightningscript.dev/</a></li>
<li>Anthropic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a></li>
<li>Chris Coyier:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/chriscoyier">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a></li>
<li>React Summit:&nbsp;<a href="https://reactsummit.com/">https://reactsummit.com/</a></li>
<li>Solenoid:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/nmn/solenoid">https://github.com/nmn/solenoid</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Naman</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://nmn.sh/">https://nmn.sh/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/naman34">https://x.com/naman34</a></li>
<li>Bluesky:&nbsp;<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li>
<li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li>
<li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Rust Is Overrated w/ Naman Goel</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tkx66fj6c1vf4dwkop75gxu4/et7w9asehyn2thgizv0p7rey.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4270</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>215</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Naman Goel about the origins and evolution of StyleX, how it integrates with React and other frameworks, and the pros and cons of different programming languages like Rust, TypeScript, and Swift. They dive into the challenges of building performant, type-safe styling systems, the surprising complexity of theme APIs, designing for developer experience, and more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:26) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers &amp;amp; sleeper hits you missed&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman&amp;rsquo;s perspective on type systems&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:45) - How StyleX works&amp;mdash;and why it&amp;rsquo;s different from Tailwind&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you&amp;rsquo;d want to merge styles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or &amp;ldquo;spa&amp;rdquo;?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:18) - Naman&amp;rsquo;s journey into writing web specs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:44) - What is link delegation?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:43) - Plugs &amp;amp; where to follow Naman&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old&#34;&gt;https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;amp;_Dragons&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&amp;amp;_Dragons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alien Earth:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ozark:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Bateman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Black Rabbit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slow Horses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slow Horses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StyleX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stylexjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://stylexjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.solidjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;QuickJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs&#34;&gt;https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.dev/&#34;&gt;https://angular.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vanilla Extract:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanilla-extract.style/&#34;&gt;https://vanilla-extract.style/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Theme UI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://theme-ui.com/&#34;&gt;https://theme-ui.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stitches:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stitches.dev/&#34;&gt;https://stitches.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livewire:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel-livewire.com/&#34;&gt;https://laravel-livewire.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/&#34;&gt;https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;morphdom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom&#34;&gt;https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://css-tricks.com/&#34;&gt;https://css-tricks.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.swift.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.swift.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C++:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;esbuild:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://esbuild.github.io/&#34;&gt;https://esbuild.github.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OCaml:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ocaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://ocaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prettier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://prettier.io/&#34;&gt;https://prettier.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Haskell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.haskell.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.haskell.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elm:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elm-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://elm-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://coffeescript.org/&#34;&gt;http://coffeescript.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LightningScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lightningscript.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lightningscript.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Summit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactsummit.com/&#34;&gt;https://reactsummit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solenoid:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/nmn/solenoid&#34;&gt;https://github.com/nmn/solenoid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Naman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nmn.sh/&#34;&gt;https://nmn.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/naman34&#34;&gt;https://x.com/naman34&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yh0lpiykomhagvujpc7ot951/thumbnail-yh0lpiykomhagvujpc7ot951.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yh0lpiykomhagvujpc7ot951/thumbnail-yh0lpiykomhagvujpc7ot951.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tkx66fj6c1vf4dwkop75gxu4/mf50smdciw90pzx5ipzb2ji9/transcoded-01KECKDX750AFKWFTWHBT2PV3D-01KECKDX75MZ0NFS777BN40ASA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/tkx66fj6c1vf4dwkop75gxu4.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>npm Worms &amp; RubyGems Coups: Trust Issues in Open Source</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam talk about the worst whiskey they&amp;rsquo;ve tasted, Tailwind as a &amp;ldquo;state management library,&amp;rdquo; and recent security scares in open source. Also &amp;mdash; dependency hygiene, developer visa drama, and whether inflated tech salaries are finally being reckoned with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:14) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:00) - What&#39;s with all the recent web dev security issues?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - Is Tailwind secretly the worst state management library?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:45) - Visa chaos: H-1Bs, gold cards, and reverse immigration&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:51) - Are tech salaries being intentionally driven down?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:45) - Adam&amp;rsquo;s AI experiment with Claude + Parallelize&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:09) - Why AI should specialize (and stop trying to do everything)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:44) - Best AI tools right now&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:01:16) - Chuck&amp;rsquo;s VPN chaos + funny wifi names&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:04) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GoDaddy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.godaddy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bob Parsons:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intuit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intuit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.intuit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon&#34;&gt;http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wrigley Chew:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bazooka:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bazookajoe.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bazookajoe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juicy Fruit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cinnamon Toast Crunch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&#34;&gt;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&#34;&gt;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;pNPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34;&gt;https://pnpm.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ransom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Cramer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SemVer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://semver.org/&#34;&gt;https://semver.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.snowpack.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.snowpack.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Socket.io:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.io/&#34;&gt;https://socket.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Socket.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.dev/&#34;&gt;https://socket.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David K Piano:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/DavidKPiano&#34;&gt;https://x.com/DavidKPiano&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Perl:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perl.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.perl.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cobol:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jarred Sumner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jarredsumner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jarredsumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.com/&#34;&gt;https://bun.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zig:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34;&gt;https://ziglang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codex:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/codex/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/codex/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 92: Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bolt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bolt.new/&#34;&gt;https://bolt.new/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lovable:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lovable.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lovable.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spec Kit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/github/spec-kit&#34;&gt;https://github.com/github/spec-kit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Proton VPN:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://protonvpn.com/&#34;&gt;https://protonvpn.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HBO Max:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hbomax.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.raspberrypi.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stephen King:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stephenking.com/&#34;&gt;https://stephenking.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cujo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nerdy.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Como FC:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://comofootball.com/&#34;&gt;https://comofootball.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">dcecb65a-51fc-449a-9938-8c3f245e99ab</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/i4thti3lu8hfq62ldqklwd8b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam talk about the worst whiskey they&rsquo;ve tasted, Tailwind as a &ldquo;state management library,&rdquo; and recent security scares in open source. Also &mdash; dependency hygiene, developer visa drama, and whether inflated tech salaries are finally being reckoned with.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:14) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey</li>
<li>(13:00) - What's with all the recent web dev security issues?</li>
<li>(28:39) - Is Tailwind secretly the worst state management library?</li>
<li>(32:45) - Visa chaos: H-1Bs, gold cards, and reverse immigration</li>
<li>(40:51) - Are tech salaries being intentionally driven down?</li>
<li>(49:45) - Adam&rsquo;s AI experiment with Claude + Parallelize</li>
<li>(54:09) - Why AI should specialize (and stop trying to do everything)</li>
<li>(54:44) - Best AI tools right now</li>
<li>(01:01:16) - Chuck&rsquo;s VPN chaos + funny wifi names</li>
<li>(01:04:04) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>GoDaddy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.godaddy.com/">https://www.godaddy.com/</a></li>
<li>Bob Parsons:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons</a></li>
<li>Intuit:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.intuit.com/">https://www.intuit.com/</a></li>
<li>Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon">http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon</a></li>
<li>Wrigley Chew:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company</a></li>
<li>Bazooka:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bazookajoe.com/">https://www.bazookajoe.com/</a></li>
<li>Juicy Fruit:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit</a></li>
<li>Cinnamon Toast Crunch:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/">https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/</a></li>
<li>Jack Daniel's:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/">https://www.jackdaniels.com/</a></li>
<li>Crown Royal Black:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black">https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black</a></li>
<li>Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&nbsp;<a href="https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky">https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky</a></li>
<li>Fresca Mixed:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.frescamixed.com/">https://www.frescamixed.com/</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Ruby:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ruby-lang.org/">https://www.ruby-lang.org/</a></li>
<li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Blockchain:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain</a></li>
<li>pNPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://pnpm.io/">https://pnpm.io/</a></li>
<li>Ransom:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/</a></li>
<li>Reddit:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/">https://www.reddit.com/</a></li>
<li>WordPress:&nbsp;<a href="https://wordpress.org/">https://wordpress.org</a></li>
<li>David Cramer:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/zeeg">https://x.com/zeeg</a></li>
<li>Django:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li>
<li>Netflix:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/">https://www.netflix.com/</a></li>
<li>SemVer:&nbsp;<a href="https://semver.org/">https://semver.org/</a></li>
<li>Google:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/">https://www.google.com/</a></li>
<li>Snowpack:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.snowpack.dev/">https://www.snowpack.dev/</a></li>
<li>Socket.io:&nbsp;<a href="https://socket.io/">https://socket.io/</a></li>
<li>Guillermo Rauch:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/rauchg">https://x.com/rauchg</a></li>
<li>Socket.dev:&nbsp;<a href="https://socket.dev/">https://socket.dev/</a></li>
<li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li>
<li>David K Piano:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/DavidKPiano">https://x.com/DavidKPiano</a></li>
<li>Tesla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tesla.com/">https://www.tesla.com/</a></li>
<li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://nextjs.org/">https://nextjs.org/</a></li>
<li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com</a></li>
<li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/">https://amazon.com</a></li>
<li>Jason Lengstorf:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li>
<li>Perl:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.perl.org/">https://www.perl.org/</a></li>
<li>Rust:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li>
<li>Cobol:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL</a></li>
<li>Jarred Sumner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jarredsumner">https://x.com/jarredsumner</a></li>
<li>Bun:&nbsp;<a href="https://bun.com/">https://bun.com/</a></li>
<li>Zig:&nbsp;<a href="https://ziglang.org/">https://ziglang.org/</a></li>
<li>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/">https://www.facebook.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li>
<li>Codex:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/codex/">https://openai.com/codex/</a></li>
<li>Opencode:&nbsp;<a href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li>
<li>Gemini:&nbsp;<a href="https://gemini.google.com/">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li>
<li>Ep 92: Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner">https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner</a></li>
<li>Neovim:&nbsp;<a href="https://neovim.io/">https://neovim.io/</a></li>
<li>Bolt:&nbsp;<a href="https://bolt.new/">https://bolt.new/</a></li>
<li>Lovable:&nbsp;<a href="https://lovable.dev/">https://lovable.dev/</a></li>
<li>Spec Kit:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/github/spec-kit">https://github.com/github/spec-kit</a></li>
<li>South Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li>
<li>Proton VPN:&nbsp;<a href="https://protonvpn.com/">https://protonvpn.com/</a></li>
<li>HBO Max:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/">https://www.hbomax.com/</a></li>
<li>Raspberry Pi:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/">https://www.raspberrypi.com</a></li>
<li>Stephen King:&nbsp;<a href="https://stephenking.com/">https://stephenking.com/</a></li>
<li>Cujo:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo</a></li>
<li>Nerdy.dev:&nbsp;<a href="https://nerdy.dev/">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li>
<li>Starpod.dev:&nbsp;<a href="https://starpod.dev/">https://starpod.dev/</a></li>
<li>Como FC:&nbsp;<a href="https://comofootball.com/">https://comofootball.com/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
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<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>npm Worms &amp; RubyGems Coups: Trust Issues in Open Source</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/i4thti3lu8hfq62ldqklwd8b/h8z3vu5ltoyksmsbvk6j2ov0.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4008</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>214</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam talk about the worst whiskey they&amp;rsquo;ve tasted, Tailwind as a &amp;ldquo;state management library,&amp;rdquo; and recent security scares in open source. Also &amp;mdash; dependency hygiene, developer visa drama, and whether inflated tech salaries are finally being reckoned with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:14) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:00) - What&#39;s with all the recent web dev security issues?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - Is Tailwind secretly the worst state management library?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:45) - Visa chaos: H-1Bs, gold cards, and reverse immigration&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:51) - Are tech salaries being intentionally driven down?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:45) - Adam&amp;rsquo;s AI experiment with Claude + Parallelize&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:09) - Why AI should specialize (and stop trying to do everything)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:44) - Best AI tools right now&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:01:16) - Chuck&amp;rsquo;s VPN chaos + funny wifi names&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:04) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GoDaddy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.godaddy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bob Parsons:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intuit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intuit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.intuit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon&#34;&gt;http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wrigley Chew:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bazooka:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bazookajoe.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bazookajoe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juicy Fruit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cinnamon Toast Crunch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&#34;&gt;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&#34;&gt;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;pNPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34;&gt;https://pnpm.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ransom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Cramer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SemVer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://semver.org/&#34;&gt;https://semver.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.snowpack.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.snowpack.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Socket.io:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.io/&#34;&gt;https://socket.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Socket.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.dev/&#34;&gt;https://socket.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David K Piano:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/DavidKPiano&#34;&gt;https://x.com/DavidKPiano&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Perl:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perl.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.perl.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cobol:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jarred Sumner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jarredsumner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jarredsumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.com/&#34;&gt;https://bun.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zig:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34;&gt;https://ziglang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codex:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/codex/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/codex/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 92: Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bolt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bolt.new/&#34;&gt;https://bolt.new/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lovable:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lovable.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lovable.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spec Kit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/github/spec-kit&#34;&gt;https://github.com/github/spec-kit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Proton VPN:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://protonvpn.com/&#34;&gt;https://protonvpn.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HBO Max:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hbomax.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.raspberrypi.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stephen King:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stephenking.com/&#34;&gt;https://stephenking.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cujo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nerdy.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Como FC:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://comofootball.com/&#34;&gt;https://comofootball.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/x0riektiwh9105idtoe9vzxv/thumbnail-x0riektiwh9105idtoe9vzxv.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/x0riektiwh9105idtoe9vzxv/thumbnail-x0riektiwh9105idtoe9vzxv.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/i4thti3lu8hfq62ldqklwd8b/qdx79sirgndwf4ei6dg34oyk/transcoded-01KECKCHZ6CCKD97JQSX11A4F9-01KECKCHZ6X3S844AKCXEZQEQJ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/i4thti3lu8hfq62ldqklwd8b.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Is CSS a Programming Language? w/ Kevin Powell</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Kevin Powell about the quirks and complexities of CSS, from Tailwind and Flexbox to AI&amp;rsquo;s failure to write decent styles. While sipping some Crown Royal Black, they dig into weird web history, emerging CSS specs, toast milestones, and the beauty of clean code.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:51) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Crown Royal Black&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:54) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:54) - Hot Take: Was CSS-in-JS a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:53) - Hot Take: Grid vs Flexbox&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:31) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:05) - Kevin&#39;s favorite place to write CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:45) - What CSS feature scares Kevin the most?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:20) - Kevin&#39;s first CSS pre-processor&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:40) - CSS features that are taking too long to ship&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:22) - text-box-trim vs margin-trim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:53) - Why attr() is a game-changer for CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:18) - NPM package chaos and security concerns&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:16) - The &amp;ldquo;billion laughs&amp;rdquo; CSS attack&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:19) - Why can&#39;t AI write CSS?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:52) - Wake-and-bake? Kevin&amp;rsquo;s sourdough &amp;amp; kombucha hobby&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:42) - Kevin&amp;rsquo;s homebrewing and water shortage woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:28) - Hobbies, football, and making time for fun&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:44) - What would Kevin do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:41) - Kevin&#39;s favorite CSS typo&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:58) - Rebuilding Tailwind from scratch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:53) - Vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind: Who wins a coding race?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:08) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&#34;&gt;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;General Musings:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontend Masters:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://frontendmasters.com/&#34;&gt;https://frontendmasters.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS Grid:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Flexbox:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Grok:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grok.com/&#34;&gt;https://grok.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Emmet:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emmet.io/&#34;&gt;https://emmet.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saas:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sass-lang.com/&#34;&gt;https://sass-lang.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://coffeescript.org/&#34;&gt;http://coffeescript.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sarah Soueidan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swatch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://swatch.dev/&#34;&gt;https://swatch.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Colorzilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colorzilla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.colorzilla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TinyColor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/&#34;&gt;https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crowdstrike.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crowdstrike.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.vt.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Eagles:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saquon Barkley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamwathan/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamwathan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kevin on YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Kevin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevinpowell.co/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevinpowell.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Courses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">506f4393-5557-4259-9d1c-db974f6384e0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/sle78xgvkecddtn0q9ii4bjx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Kevin Powell about the quirks and complexities of CSS, from Tailwind and Flexbox to AI&rsquo;s failure to write decent styles. While sipping some Crown Royal Black, they dig into weird web history, emerging CSS specs, toast milestones, and the beauty of clean code.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:51) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Crown Royal Black</li>
<li>(07:54) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?</li>
<li>(09:54) - Hot Take: Was CSS-in-JS a mistake?</li>
<li>(10:53) - Hot Take: Grid vs Flexbox</li>
<li>(12:31) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS?</li>
<li>(16:05) - Kevin's favorite place to write CSS</li>
<li>(17:45) - What CSS feature scares Kevin the most?</li>
<li>(19:20) - Kevin's first CSS pre-processor</li>
<li>(22:40) - CSS features that are taking too long to ship</li>
<li>(27:22) - text-box-trim vs margin-trim</li>
<li>(29:53) - Why attr() is a game-changer for CSS</li>
<li>(31:18) - NPM package chaos and security concerns</li>
<li>(32:16) - The &ldquo;billion laughs&rdquo; CSS attack</li>
<li>(33:19) - Why can't AI write CSS?</li>
<li>(36:52) - Wake-and-bake? Kevin&rsquo;s sourdough &amp; kombucha hobby</li>
<li>(38:42) - Kevin&rsquo;s homebrewing and water shortage woes</li>
<li>(40:28) - Hobbies, football, and making time for fun</li>
<li>(42:44) - What would Kevin do if not in tech?</li>
<li>(44:41) - Kevin's favorite CSS typo</li>
<li>(45:58) - Rebuilding Tailwind from scratch</li>
<li>(46:53) - Vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind: Who wins a coding race?</li>
<li>(50:08) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Crown Royal Black:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black">https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>General Musings:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings">https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings</a></li>
<li>Frontend Masters:&nbsp;<a href="https://frontendmasters.com/">https://frontendmasters.com/</a></li>
<li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Figma:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.figma.com/">https://www.figma.com/</a></li>
<li>CSS Grid:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp">https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp</a></li>
<li>Flexbox:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp">https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp</a></li>
<li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li>
<li>Grok:&nbsp;<a href="https://grok.com/">https://grok.com/</a></li>
<li>CodePen:&nbsp;<a href="https://codepen.io/">https://codepen.io/</a></li>
<li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com</a></li>
<li>Emmet:&nbsp;<a href="https://emmet.io/">https://emmet.io/</a></li>
<li>Vue:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>Saas:&nbsp;<a href="https://sass-lang.com/">https://sass-lang.com/</a></li>
<li>Stylus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus">https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus</a></li>
<li>TypeScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li>
<li>CoffeeScript:&nbsp;<a href="http://coffeescript.org/">http://coffeescript.org/</a></li>
<li>Sarah Soueidan:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan">https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan</a></li>
<li>Shepherd:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a></li>
<li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Swatch:&nbsp;<a href="https://swatch.dev/">https://swatch.dev/</a></li>
<li>Colorzilla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.colorzilla.com/">https://www.colorzilla.com/</a></li>
<li>TinyColor:&nbsp;<a href="https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/">https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/</a></li>
<li>CrowdStrike:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crowdstrike.com/">https://www.crowdstrike.com/</a></li>
<li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Chris Coyier:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/chriscoyier">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a></li>
<li>Virginia Tech:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vt.edu/">https://www.vt.edu/</a></li>
<li>The Eagles:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/">https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/</a></li>
<li>Saquon Barkley:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley</a></li>
<li>Adam Wathan:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/adamwathan/">https://x.com/adamwathan/</a></li>
<li>Kevin on YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell">https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Kevin</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kevinpowell.co/">https://www.kevinpowell.co/</a></li>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:51) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Crown Royal Black&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:54) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:54) - Hot Take: Was CSS-in-JS a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:53) - Hot Take: Grid vs Flexbox&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:31) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:05) - Kevin&#39;s favorite place to write CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:45) - What CSS feature scares Kevin the most?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:20) - Kevin&#39;s first CSS pre-processor&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:40) - CSS features that are taking too long to ship&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:22) - text-box-trim vs margin-trim&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:53) - Why attr() is a game-changer for CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:18) - NPM package chaos and security concerns&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:16) - The &amp;ldquo;billion laughs&amp;rdquo; CSS attack&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:19) - Why can&#39;t AI write CSS?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:52) - Wake-and-bake? Kevin&amp;rsquo;s sourdough &amp;amp; kombucha hobby&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:42) - Kevin&amp;rsquo;s homebrewing and water shortage woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:28) - Hobbies, football, and making time for fun&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:44) - What would Kevin do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:41) - Kevin&#39;s favorite CSS typo&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:58) - Rebuilding Tailwind from scratch&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:53) - Vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind: Who wins a coding race?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:08) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&#34;&gt;https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;General Musings:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontend Masters:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://frontendmasters.com/&#34;&gt;https://frontendmasters.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS Grid:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Flexbox:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Grok:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grok.com/&#34;&gt;https://grok.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Emmet:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emmet.io/&#34;&gt;https://emmet.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saas:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sass-lang.com/&#34;&gt;https://sass-lang.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://coffeescript.org/&#34;&gt;http://coffeescript.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sarah Soueidan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swatch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://swatch.dev/&#34;&gt;https://swatch.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Colorzilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colorzilla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.colorzilla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TinyColor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/&#34;&gt;https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crowdstrike.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crowdstrike.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.vt.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Eagles:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saquon Barkley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamwathan/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamwathan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kevin on YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Kevin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevinpowell.co/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevinpowell.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Courses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/y6na24hs1zxfkuh43arlw335/thumbnail-y6na24hs1zxfkuh43arlw335.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/y6na24hs1zxfkuh43arlw335/thumbnail-y6na24hs1zxfkuh43arlw335.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/sle78xgvkecddtn0q9ii4bjx/a7s6eznj6y70aivn58giv05s/transcoded-01KECKDE5A0J07PES4QVSWRGNR-01KECKDE5A1RR7A5AV38FXKPS3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/sle78xgvkecddtn0q9ii4bjx.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Dave &#34;Macho Man Randy Standards&#34; Rupert about whiskey, web culture, and the quirks of building side projects. They dive into the shifting landscape of the web&amp;mdash;AI-driven development, spec-driven workflows, RSS&amp;rsquo;s decline, and the joy (and pain) of creative tinkering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;br&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;br&gt;(03:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Suntory World Whiskey Ao&lt;br&gt;(16:30) - Is the open web in decline?&lt;br&gt;(17:16) - How we search and learn in 2025&lt;br&gt;(22:31) - Discovering Strudel&lt;br&gt;(24:44) - Dave&amp;rsquo;s Strudel vibe-coding experiment&lt;br&gt;(27:15) - The promise and limits of AI in programming&lt;br&gt;(28:39) - Getting into spec-driven development&lt;br&gt;(34:11) - The pain of publishing apps&lt;br&gt;(36:51) - Weird camera quirks across platforms&lt;br&gt;(40:19) - Could you code on a horse?&lt;br&gt;(41:35) - Voice-based vibe-coding&lt;br&gt;(42:45) - Making coding approachable for kids&lt;br&gt;(45:54) - Side hustles and money outside tech&lt;br&gt;(52:04) - Dave&#39;s shoutout to Storybook&lt;br&gt;(58:49) - Plugs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&#34;&gt;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Descript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.descript.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell Chili Cheese Burrito:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McDonald&#39;s McRib:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html&#34;&gt;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pringles:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pringles.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.pringles.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mitosis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis&#34;&gt;https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.solidjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Trent Walton:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://trentwalton.com/&#34;&gt;https://trentwalton.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Amp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developers.google.com/amp&#34;&gt;https://developers.google.com/amp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TikTok:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Verge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theverge.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.theverge.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Amp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developers.google.com/amp&#34;&gt;https://developers.google.com/amp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kottke:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kottke.org/&#34;&gt;https://kottke.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Strudel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://strudel.cc/&#34;&gt;https://strudel.cc/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lincoln Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bolt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bolt.new/&#34;&gt;https://bolt.new/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lovable:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lovable.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lovable.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deloitte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.deloitte.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.deloitte.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.intel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coder:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coder.com/&#34;&gt;https://coder.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peppeteer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pptr.dev/&#34;&gt;https://pptr.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electron:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.electronjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.electronjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacOS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/macos/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/macos/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fuji:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://global.fujifilm.com/&#34;&gt;https://global.fujifilm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lomography:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lomography.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.lomography.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPad:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/ipad/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/ipad/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp Code video:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pico 8:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php&#34;&gt;https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lua:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lua.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.lua.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;COBOL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spike LEGO Education:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://spike.legoeducation.com/&#34;&gt;https://spike.legoeducation.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Home Depot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.homedepot.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.homedepot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hassle Free Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myhasslefreehome.com/&#34;&gt;https://myhasslefreehome.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Storybook:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://storybook.js.org/&#34;&gt;https://storybook.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brad Frost:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/brad_frost&#34;&gt;https://x.com/brad_frost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.com/&#34;&gt;https://riverside.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FAST:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fast.design/&#34;&gt;https://fast.design/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Obsidian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://obsidian.md/&#34;&gt;https://obsidian.md/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Notion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.notion.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.notion.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Thing Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Dave&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://daverupert.com/&#34;&gt;https://daverupert.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4549b35e-a420-477b-8e6a-d2e7b0954346</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/hgn7mxfvurhwh6hdc6589c57.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Dave "Macho Man Randy Standards" Rupert about whiskey, web culture, and the quirks of building side projects. They dive into the shifting landscape of the web&mdash;AI-driven development, spec-driven workflows, RSS&rsquo;s decline, and the joy (and pain) of creative tinkering.</p>
<p>In this episode:<br>(00:00) - Intro<br>(03:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Suntory World Whiskey Ao<br>(16:30) - Is the open web in decline?<br>(17:16) - How we search and learn in 2025<br>(22:31) - Discovering Strudel<br>(24:44) - Dave&rsquo;s Strudel vibe-coding experiment<br>(27:15) - The promise and limits of AI in programming<br>(28:39) - Getting into spec-driven development<br>(34:11) - The pain of publishing apps<br>(36:51) - Weird camera quirks across platforms<br>(40:19) - Could you code on a horse?<br>(41:35) - Voice-based vibe-coding<br>(42:45) - Making coding approachable for kids<br>(45:54) - Side hustles and money outside tech<br>(52:04) - Dave's shoutout to Storybook<br>(58:49) - Plugs</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>ShopTalk Show:&nbsp;<a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a></li>
<li>Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&nbsp;<a href="https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky">https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky</a></li>
<li>Jim Beam Pineapple:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple">https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple</a></li>
<li>Descript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.descript.com/">https://www.descript.com/</a></li>
<li>Taco Bell Chili Cheese Burrito:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan">https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan</a></li>
<li>McDonald's McRib:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html">https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html</a></li>
<li>Pringles:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pringles.com/">https://www.pringles.com/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/">https://astro.build/</a></li>
<li>Vue:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>Svelte:&nbsp;<a href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li>
<li>Mitosis:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis">https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>SolidJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.solidjs.com/">https://www.solidjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Trent Walton:&nbsp;<a href="https://trentwalton.com/">https://trentwalton.com/</a></li>
<li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>Google Amp:&nbsp;<a href="https://developers.google.com/amp">https://developers.google.com/amp</a></li>
<li>Reddit:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/">https://www.reddit.com/</a></li>
<li>TikTok:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/">https://www.tiktok.com/</a></li>
<li>The Verge:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/">https://www.theverge.com</a></li>
<li>Google Amp:&nbsp;<a href="https://developers.google.com/amp">https://developers.google.com/amp</a></li>
<li>Kottke:&nbsp;<a href="https://kottke.org/">https://kottke.org/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Strudel:&nbsp;<a href="https://strudel.cc/">https://strudel.cc/</a></li>
<li>Lincoln Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park</a></li>
<li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li>
<li>Copilot:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/features/copilot">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li>
<li>Bolt:&nbsp;<a href="https://bolt.new/">https://bolt.new/</a></li>
<li>Lovable:&nbsp;<a href="https://lovable.dev/">https://lovable.dev/</a></li>
<li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>Deloitte:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.deloitte.com/">https://www.deloitte.com/</a></li>
<li>Intel:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.intel.com/">https://www.intel.com/</a></li>
<li>Coder:&nbsp;<a href="https://coder.com/">https://coder.com/</a></li>
<li>Kiro:&nbsp;<a href="https://kiro.dev/">https://kiro.dev/</a></li>
<li>Peppeteer:&nbsp;<a href="https://pptr.dev/">https://pptr.dev/</a></li>
<li>Electron:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.electronjs.org/">https://www.electronjs.org/</a></li>
<li>MacOS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/macos/">https://www.apple.com/macos/</a></li>
<li>Linux:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linux.org/">https://www.linux.org/</a></li>
<li>Fuji:&nbsp;<a href="https://global.fujifilm.com/">https://global.fujifilm.com/</a></li>
<li>Lomography:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lomography.com/">https://www.lomography.com</a></li>
<li>iPad:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/ipad/">https://www.apple.com/ipad/</a></li>
<li>Vim:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vim.org/">https://www.vim.org/</a></li>
<li>Warp Code video:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8</a></li>
<li>Pico 8:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php">https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php</a></li>
<li>Lua:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lua.org/">https://www.lua.org/</a></li>
<li>COBOL:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL</a></li>
<li>Spike LEGO Education:&nbsp;<a href="https://spike.legoeducation.com/">https://spike.legoeducation.com/</a></li>
<li>South Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li>
<li>Jeff Bezos:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos</a></li>
<li>Elon Musk:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a></li>
<li>Home Depot:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.homedepot.com/">https://www.homedepot.com/</a></li>
<li>Hassle Free Home:&nbsp;<a href="https://myhasslefreehome.com/">https://myhasslefreehome.com/</a></li>
<li>Storybook:&nbsp;<a href="https://storybook.js.org/">https://storybook.js.org/</a></li>
<li>Brad Frost:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/brad_frost">https://x.com/brad_frost</a></li>
<li>Riverside:&nbsp;<a href="https://riverside.com/">https://riverside.com/</a></li>
<li>FAST:&nbsp;<a href="https://fast.design/">https://fast.design/</a></li>
<li>Obsidian:&nbsp;<a href="https://obsidian.md/">https://obsidian.md/</a></li>
<li>Notion:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.notion.com/">https://www.notion.com/</a></li>
<li>All Thing Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://2025.allthingsopen.org/">https://2025.allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Dave</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://daverupert.com/">https://daverupert.com/</a></li>
<li>Bluesky:&nbsp;<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li>
<li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li>
<li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>TalkShop Show w/ Macho Man Randy Standards</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hgn7mxfvurhwh6hdc6589c57/wfhego2f6hib6r1yml6bo6lx.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3637</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>212</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Dave &#34;Macho Man Randy Standards&#34; Rupert about whiskey, web culture, and the quirks of building side projects. They dive into the shifting landscape of the web&amp;mdash;AI-driven development, spec-driven workflows, RSS&amp;rsquo;s decline, and the joy (and pain) of creative tinkering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;br&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;br&gt;(03:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Suntory World Whiskey Ao&lt;br&gt;(16:30) - Is the open web in decline?&lt;br&gt;(17:16) - How we search and learn in 2025&lt;br&gt;(22:31) - Discovering Strudel&lt;br&gt;(24:44) - Dave&amp;rsquo;s Strudel vibe-coding experiment&lt;br&gt;(27:15) - The promise and limits of AI in programming&lt;br&gt;(28:39) - Getting into spec-driven development&lt;br&gt;(34:11) - The pain of publishing apps&lt;br&gt;(36:51) - Weird camera quirks across platforms&lt;br&gt;(40:19) - Could you code on a horse?&lt;br&gt;(41:35) - Voice-based vibe-coding&lt;br&gt;(42:45) - Making coding approachable for kids&lt;br&gt;(45:54) - Side hustles and money outside tech&lt;br&gt;(52:04) - Dave&#39;s shoutout to Storybook&lt;br&gt;(58:49) - Plugs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suntory World Whiskey Ao:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&#34;&gt;https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Descript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.descript.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell Chili Cheese Burrito:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McDonald&#39;s McRib:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html&#34;&gt;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pringles:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pringles.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.pringles.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mitosis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis&#34;&gt;https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.solidjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Trent Walton:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://trentwalton.com/&#34;&gt;https://trentwalton.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Amp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developers.google.com/amp&#34;&gt;https://developers.google.com/amp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TikTok:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Verge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theverge.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.theverge.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Amp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developers.google.com/amp&#34;&gt;https://developers.google.com/amp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kottke:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kottke.org/&#34;&gt;https://kottke.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Strudel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://strudel.cc/&#34;&gt;https://strudel.cc/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lincoln Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bolt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bolt.new/&#34;&gt;https://bolt.new/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lovable:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lovable.dev/&#34;&gt;https://lovable.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deloitte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.deloitte.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.deloitte.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.intel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coder:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coder.com/&#34;&gt;https://coder.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peppeteer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pptr.dev/&#34;&gt;https://pptr.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electron:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.electronjs.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.electronjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacOS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/macos/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/macos/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fuji:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://global.fujifilm.com/&#34;&gt;https://global.fujifilm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lomography:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lomography.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.lomography.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPad:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/ipad/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/ipad/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp Code video:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pico 8:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php&#34;&gt;https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lua:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lua.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.lua.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;COBOL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spike LEGO Education:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://spike.legoeducation.com/&#34;&gt;https://spike.legoeducation.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Home Depot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.homedepot.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.homedepot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hassle Free Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myhasslefreehome.com/&#34;&gt;https://myhasslefreehome.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Storybook:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://storybook.js.org/&#34;&gt;https://storybook.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brad Frost:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/brad_frost&#34;&gt;https://x.com/brad_frost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.com/&#34;&gt;https://riverside.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FAST:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fast.design/&#34;&gt;https://fast.design/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Obsidian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://obsidian.md/&#34;&gt;https://obsidian.md/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Notion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.notion.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.notion.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Thing Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Dave&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://daverupert.com/&#34;&gt;https://daverupert.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/avu73xokoe9suguxsmg9lx1r/thumbnail-avu73xokoe9suguxsmg9lx1r.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/avu73xokoe9suguxsmg9lx1r/thumbnail-avu73xokoe9suguxsmg9lx1r.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hgn7mxfvurhwh6hdc6589c57/pbbn3jez3j24i9w98wtdszxb/transcoded-01KECKDKE2K6EXSVC7C55H4JXG-01KECKDKE2JNQ1Q14Z89H7PFY3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/hgn7mxfvurhwh6hdc6589c57.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Agents of Chaos: Whiskey Experiments and the Future of IDEs</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and Adam talk about flavored whiskeys, offbeat experiments, and the chaos of tech culture. They discuss AI workflows, Warp vs. IDE debates, and the realities of coding culture, from bleeding-edge hype to WordPress drudgery. Plus, Chuck shares updates on life in Italy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:33) - Whiskey rating and review: Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Apple and Honey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:57) &amp;ndash; Experimenting with mixing whiskeys&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:16) &amp;ndash; Honey on the rim: a sweet idea?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:15) &amp;ndash; Food, culture, and Chuck&amp;rsquo;s life in Italy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:44) &amp;ndash; FOMO on agents and AI hype&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:32) &amp;ndash; Current AI workflows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:04) &amp;ndash; Warp Code update and its bizarre promo video&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:27) &amp;ndash; IDEs vs. plugins: what&amp;rsquo;s the future?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:29) &amp;ndash; Chuck and Adam on their current jobs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MythBusters:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wild Turkey American Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.americanhoney.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.americanhoney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hudson House Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Burt Bacharach:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mike&#39;s Hot Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mikeshothoney.com/&#34;&gt;https://mikeshothoney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.com/product/claude-code&#34;&gt;https://claude.com/product/claude-code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LM Studio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lmstudio.ai/&#34;&gt;https://lmstudio.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joomla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joomla.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.joomla.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BMW:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bmwusa.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bmwusa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rhysider:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jackrhysider&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jackrhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Thing Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cc3de821-3e1b-4f7c-a7de-4e6b5e30b9ee</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/wau7ibvlkjw7b6pje9xyl6x5.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Chuck and Adam talk about flavored whiskeys, offbeat experiments, and the chaos of tech culture. They discuss AI workflows, Warp vs. IDE debates, and the realities of coding culture, from bleeding-edge hype to WordPress drudgery. Plus, Chuck shares updates on life in Italy.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:33) - Whiskey rating and review: Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple and Honey</li>
<li>(13:57) &ndash; Experimenting with mixing whiskeys</li>
<li>(18:16) &ndash; Honey on the rim: a sweet idea?</li>
<li>(19:15) &ndash; Food, culture, and Chuck&rsquo;s life in Italy</li>
<li>(28:44) &ndash; FOMO on agents and AI hype</li>
<li>(31:32) &ndash; Current AI workflows</li>
<li>(32:04) &ndash; Warp Code update and its bizarre promo video</li>
<li>(37:27) &ndash; IDEs vs. plugins: what&rsquo;s the future?</li>
<li>(44:29) &ndash; Chuck and Adam on their current jobs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple">https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple</a></li>
<li>Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey">https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey</a></li>
<li>MythBusters:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters</a></li>
<li>Jim Beam Pineapple:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple">https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple</a></li>
<li>Wild Turkey American Honey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.americanhoney.com/">https://www.americanhoney.com/</a></li>
<li>Hudson House Distillery:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/">https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/</a></li>
<li>Burt Bacharach:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach</a></li>
<li>Mike's Hot Honey:&nbsp;<a href="https://mikeshothoney.com/">https://mikeshothoney.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.com/product/claude-code">https://claude.com/product/claude-code</a></li>
<li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li>
<li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>Warp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li>
<li>LM Studio:&nbsp;<a href="https://lmstudio.ai/">https://lmstudio.ai</a></li>
<li>Mac Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/">https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/</a></li>
<li>Opencode:&nbsp;<a href="https://opencode.ai/">https://opencode.ai/</a></li>
<li>Dax:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/thdxr/">https://x.com/thdxr/</a></li>
<li>Warp Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod">https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod</a></li>
<li>Zed:&nbsp;<a href="https://zed.dev/">https://zed.dev/</a></li>
<li>WordPress:&nbsp;<a href="https://wordpress.org/">https://wordpress.org</a></li>
<li>Django:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li>
<li>Joomla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.joomla.org/">https://www.joomla.org/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Rust:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li>
<li>BMW:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bmwusa.com/">https://www.bmwusa.com/</a></li>
<li>Tesla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tesla.com/">https://www.tesla.com/</a></li>
<li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Remix:&nbsp;<a href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Darknet Diaries:&nbsp;<a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/">https://darknetdiaries.com/</a></li>
<li>Jack Rhysider:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jackrhysider">https://x.com/jackrhysider</a></li>
<li>All Thing Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://2025.allthingsopen.org/">https://2025.allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Agents of Chaos: Whiskey Experiments and the Future of IDEs</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wau7ibvlkjw7b6pje9xyl6x5/xttwua4fwniu25oi2hrx95vr.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2932</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>211</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and Adam talk about flavored whiskeys, offbeat experiments, and the chaos of tech culture. They discuss AI workflows, Warp vs. IDE debates, and the realities of coding culture, from bleeding-edge hype to WordPress drudgery. Plus, Chuck shares updates on life in Italy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:33) - Whiskey rating and review: Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Apple and Honey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:57) &amp;ndash; Experimenting with mixing whiskeys&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:16) &amp;ndash; Honey on the rim: a sweet idea?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:15) &amp;ndash; Food, culture, and Chuck&amp;rsquo;s life in Italy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:44) &amp;ndash; FOMO on agents and AI hype&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:32) &amp;ndash; Current AI workflows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:04) &amp;ndash; Warp Code update and its bizarre promo video&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:27) &amp;ndash; IDEs vs. plugins: what&amp;rsquo;s the future?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:29) &amp;ndash; Chuck and Adam on their current jobs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s Tennessee Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MythBusters:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wild Turkey American Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.americanhoney.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.americanhoney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hudson House Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Burt Bacharach:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mike&#39;s Hot Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mikeshothoney.com/&#34;&gt;https://mikeshothoney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.com/product/claude-code&#34;&gt;https://claude.com/product/claude-code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LM Studio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lmstudio.ai/&#34;&gt;https://lmstudio.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opencode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opencode.ai/&#34;&gt;https://opencode.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joomla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joomla.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.joomla.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BMW:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bmwusa.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.bmwusa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rhysider:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jackrhysider&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jackrhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Thing Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://2025.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tvw6tl7l0q3n23kyzypg2h9t/thumbnail-tvw6tl7l0q3n23kyzypg2h9t.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tvw6tl7l0q3n23kyzypg2h9t/thumbnail-tvw6tl7l0q3n23kyzypg2h9t.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wau7ibvlkjw7b6pje9xyl6x5/wbngcgz4liniqullvte2sgg7/transcoded-01KECKCHHT6AG5NM5B4GMK46JV-01KECKCHHTQBW81XDSDF3QVQP4_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/wau7ibvlkjw7b6pje9xyl6x5.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>DevRel, Linux, and the Shrinking Path for Junior Developers w/ Ali Diamond</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ali Diamond about her journey through tech, cybersecurity, and community building. They sip tequila, swap hot takes on programming languages and developer culture, and dig into the realities of junior engineering paths, DevRel&amp;rsquo;s evolution, and how passion&amp;mdash;not tools&amp;mdash;shapes meaningful work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:39) - Tequila rating &amp;amp; review: Espolon Tequila Blanco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:46) - From tequila to other favorite drinks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:11) - Hot Take: Why junior engineers should focus on - fundamentals&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:57) - Hot Take: MacOS or Linux?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:25) - Ali&amp;rsquo;s take on Linux flavors (and her own twist)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:22) - Hot Take: Is DevRel really dead?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:28) - Software developer vs. software engineer: does it matter?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:45) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:14) - The shrinking path for junior developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:34) - Life outside coding: Ali&amp;rsquo;s passions and projects&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:34) - Ali&amp;rsquo;s journey into tech and family background&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:40) - Plugs &amp;amp; where to find Ali online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Espolon Tequila Blanco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.espolontequila.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.espolontequila.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lua:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lua.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.lua.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spindrift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkspindrift.com/&#34;&gt;https://drinkspindrift.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Net Gala:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/_thenetgala&#34;&gt;https://x.com/_thenetgala&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1942 Tequila:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila&#34;&gt;https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clase Azul:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claseazul.com/&#34;&gt;https://claseazul.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaCroix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diet Coke:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monster:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Celsius:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.celsius.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.celsius.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacOS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/macos/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/macos/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Andriod:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.android.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.android.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Omarchy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://omarchy.org/&#34;&gt;https://omarchy.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arch Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://archlinux.org/&#34;&gt;https://archlinux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Debian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.debian.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.debian.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ubuntu:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ubuntu.com/&#34;&gt;https://ubuntu.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kali:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kali.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.kali.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitch.tv/&#34;&gt;https://twitch.tv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CactusCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cactuscon.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cactuscon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 114: Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Scala:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.scala-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.scala-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Walmart:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walmart.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.walmart.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Zuckerberg:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Money:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bill Gates:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://yaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smiski:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://smiski.com/&#34;&gt;https://smiski.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brandon Sanderson:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brandonsanderson.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.brandonsanderson.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lore Olympus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Webtoon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Invincible:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Boys:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Burning Man:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://burningman.org/&#34;&gt;https://burningman.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coachella:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coachella.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.coachella.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nine Inch Nails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nin.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nin.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mit.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.mit.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pokemon Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pokemongolive.com/&#34;&gt;https://pokemongolive.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stanford.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.stanford.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UC Berkeley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.berkeley.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.berkeley.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harvard University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.harvard.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.harvard.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Ali&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ali.dev/&#34;&gt;https://ali.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/endingwithali&#34;&gt;https://x.com/endingwithali&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@hak5&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@hak5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">bc58b678-0e65-4bbf-bc6a-e7c0254cc122</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xuctqgmtjijwk27ebj3aaeld.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ali Diamond about her journey through tech, cybersecurity, and community building. They sip tequila, swap hot takes on programming languages and developer culture, and dig into the realities of junior engineering paths, DevRel&rsquo;s evolution, and how passion&mdash;not tools&mdash;shapes meaningful work.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:39) - Tequila rating &amp; review: Espolon Tequila Blanco</li>
<li>(13:46) - From tequila to other favorite drinks</li>
<li>(16:11) - Hot Take: Why junior engineers should focus on - fundamentals</li>
<li>(18:57) - Hot Take: MacOS or Linux?</li>
<li>(22:25) - Ali&rsquo;s take on Linux flavors (and her own twist)</li>
<li>(25:22) - Hot Take: Is DevRel really dead?</li>
<li>(27:28) - Software developer vs. software engineer: does it matter?</li>
<li>(31:45) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel</li>
<li>(35:14) - The shrinking path for junior developers</li>
<li>(47:34) - Life outside coding: Ali&rsquo;s passions and projects</li>
<li>(54:34) - Ali&rsquo;s journey into tech and family background</li>
<li>(57:40) - Plugs &amp; where to find Ali online</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Espolon Tequila Blanco:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.espolontequila.com/">https://www.espolontequila.com/</a></li>
<li>Minecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.minecraft.net/">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li>
<li>Java:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.java.com/">https://www.java.com/</a></li>
<li>Lua:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lua.org/">https://www.lua.org/</a></li>
<li>Spindrift:&nbsp;<a href="https://drinkspindrift.com/">https://drinkspindrift.com/</a></li>
<li>Costco:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.costco.com/">https://www.costco.com</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>The Net Gala:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/_thenetgala">https://x.com/_thenetgala</a></li>
<li>1942 Tequila:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila">https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila</a></li>
<li>Clase Azul:&nbsp;<a href="https://claseazul.com/">https://claseazul.com/</a></li>
<li>Fresca Mixed:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.frescamixed.com/">https://www.frescamixed.com/</a></li>
<li>LaCroix:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lacroixwater.com/">https://www.lacroixwater.com/</a></li>
<li>Diet Coke:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke">https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke</a></li>
<li>Monster:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.monsterenergy.com/">https://www.monsterenergy.com/</a></li>
<li>Celsius:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.celsius.com/">https://www.celsius.com/</a></li>
<li>Django:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li>
<li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>MacOS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/macos/">https://www.apple.com/macos/</a></li>
<li>Linux:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linux.org/">https://www.linux.org/</a></li>
<li>Andriod:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.android.com/">https://www.android.com/</a></li>
<li>iPhone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/">https://www.apple.com/iphone/</a></li>
<li>Vim:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vim.org/">https://www.vim.org/</a></li>
<li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li>
<li>Omarchy:&nbsp;<a href="https://omarchy.org/">https://omarchy.org/</a></li>
<li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li>
<li>Arch Linux:&nbsp;<a href="https://archlinux.org/">https://archlinux.org/</a></li>
<li>Debian:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.debian.org/">https://www.debian.org/</a></li>
<li>Ubuntu:&nbsp;<a href="https://ubuntu.com/">https://ubuntu.com/</a></li>
<li>Kali:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kali.org/">https://www.kali.org/</a></li>
<li>Twitch:&nbsp;<a href="https://twitch.tv/">https://twitch.tv</a></li>
<li>CactusCon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cactuscon.com/">https://www.cactuscon.com/</a></li>
<li>Ep 114: Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider">https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider</a></li>
<li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/">https://laravel.com/</a></li>
<li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/">https://www.php.net/</a></li>
<li>Scala:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.scala-lang.org/">https://www.scala-lang.org/</a></li>
<li>Guillermo Rauch:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/rauchg">https://x.com/rauchg</a></li>
<li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li>
<li>Taylor Otwell:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/taylorotwell">https://x.com/taylorotwell</a></li>
<li>Walmart:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.walmart.com/">https://www.walmart.com/</a></li>
<li>WordPress:&nbsp;<a href="https://wordpress.org/">https://wordpress.org</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>LeetCode:&nbsp;<a href="https://leetcode.com/">https://leetcode.com/</a></li>
<li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Mark Zuckerberg:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg</a></li>
<li>Mad Money:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money</a></li>
<li>Bill Gates:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates</a></li>
<li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li>
<li>Kubernetes:&nbsp;<a href="https://kubernetes.io/">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li>
<li>YAML:&nbsp;<a href="https://yaml.org/">https://yaml.org/</a></li>
<li>Smiski:&nbsp;<a href="https://smiski.com/">https://smiski.com/</a></li>
<li>Brandon Sanderson:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.brandonsanderson.com/">https://www.brandonsanderson.com/</a></li>
<li>Game of Thrones:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones</a></li>
<li>Lore Olympus:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus</a></li>
<li>Webtoon:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon</a></li>
<li>Invincible:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>The Boys:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Burning Man:&nbsp;<a href="https://burningman.org/">https://burningman.org/</a></li>
<li>Coachella:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coachella.com/">https://www.coachella.com/</a></li>
<li>Nine Inch Nails:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nin.com/">https://www.nin.com/</a></li>
<li>Go:&nbsp;<a href="https://go.dev/">https://go.dev/</a></li>
<li>MIT:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mit.edu/">https://www.mit.edu</a></li>
<li>Pokemon Go:&nbsp;<a href="https://pokemongolive.com/">https://pokemongolive.com/</a></li>
<li>Stanford University:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stanford.edu/">https://www.stanford.edu/</a></li>
<li>UC Berkeley:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.berkeley.edu/">https://www.berkeley.edu/</a></li>
<li>Harvard University:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.harvard.edu/">https://www.harvard.edu/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Ali</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://ali.dev/">https://ali.dev/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/endingwithali">https://x.com/endingwithali</a></li>
<li>Twitch:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali">https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@hak5">https://www.youtube.com/@hak5</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li>
<li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li>
<li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li>
<li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>DevRel, Linux, and the Shrinking Path for Junior Developers w/ Ali Diamond</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xuctqgmtjijwk27ebj3aaeld/kjxhgvunpxcihabeiisip9at.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>210</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ali Diamond about her journey through tech, cybersecurity, and community building. They sip tequila, swap hot takes on programming languages and developer culture, and dig into the realities of junior engineering paths, DevRel&amp;rsquo;s evolution, and how passion&amp;mdash;not tools&amp;mdash;shapes meaningful work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:39) - Tequila rating &amp;amp; review: Espolon Tequila Blanco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:46) - From tequila to other favorite drinks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:11) - Hot Take: Why junior engineers should focus on - fundamentals&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:57) - Hot Take: MacOS or Linux?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:25) - Ali&amp;rsquo;s take on Linux flavors (and her own twist)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:22) - Hot Take: Is DevRel really dead?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:28) - Software developer vs. software engineer: does it matter?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:45) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:14) - The shrinking path for junior developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:34) - Life outside coding: Ali&amp;rsquo;s passions and projects&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:34) - Ali&amp;rsquo;s journey into tech and family background&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:40) - Plugs &amp;amp; where to find Ali online&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Espolon Tequila Blanco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.espolontequila.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.espolontequila.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lua:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lua.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.lua.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spindrift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkspindrift.com/&#34;&gt;https://drinkspindrift.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Net Gala:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/_thenetgala&#34;&gt;https://x.com/_thenetgala&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1942 Tequila:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila&#34;&gt;https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clase Azul:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claseazul.com/&#34;&gt;https://claseazul.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaCroix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diet Coke:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monster:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.monsterenergy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Celsius:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.celsius.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.celsius.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacOS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/macos/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/macos/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Andriod:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.android.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.android.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Omarchy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://omarchy.org/&#34;&gt;https://omarchy.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arch Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://archlinux.org/&#34;&gt;https://archlinux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Debian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.debian.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.debian.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ubuntu:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ubuntu.com/&#34;&gt;https://ubuntu.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kali:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kali.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.kali.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitch.tv/&#34;&gt;https://twitch.tv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CactusCon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cactuscon.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cactuscon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 114: Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Scala:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.scala-lang.org/&#34;&gt;https://www.scala-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Walmart:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walmart.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.walmart.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Zuckerberg:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Money:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bill Gates:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34;&gt;https://yaml.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smiski:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://smiski.com/&#34;&gt;https://smiski.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brandon Sanderson:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brandonsanderson.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.brandonsanderson.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lore Olympus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Webtoon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Invincible:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Boys:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Burning Man:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://burningman.org/&#34;&gt;https://burningman.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coachella:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coachella.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.coachella.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nine Inch Nails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nin.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nin.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34;&gt;https://go.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mit.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.mit.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pokemon Go:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pokemongolive.com/&#34;&gt;https://pokemongolive.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stanford.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.stanford.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UC Berkeley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.berkeley.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.berkeley.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harvard University:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.harvard.edu/&#34;&gt;https://www.harvard.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Ali&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ali.dev/&#34;&gt;https://ali.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/endingwithali&#34;&gt;https://x.com/endingwithali&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@hak5&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@hak5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/jenkc30krtwf6q6u36c6nlxt/thumbnail-jenkc30krtwf6q6u36c6nlxt.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/jenkc30krtwf6q6u36c6nlxt/thumbnail-jenkc30krtwf6q6u36c6nlxt.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xuctqgmtjijwk27ebj3aaeld/z6ws6c8qajisd8rsweltsmcj/transcoded-01KECKCHDQSCTWH0367Z5TB2WY-01KECKCHDQDPPESNRWJSN29QVZ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/xuctqgmtjijwk27ebj3aaeld.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Is Cracker Barrel a JS Framework?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk about JavaScript trends, from the overuse of hooks to frameworks chasing sameness, and why Cracker Barrel&amp;rsquo;s rebrand feels like a frontend metaphor. They dive into tech nostalgia, from retro consoles to old-school LAN parties, and debate AI&amp;rsquo;s role in therapy and modern workflows.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: WhistlePig Small Batch Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:48) - Growing plants and bottom watering&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:43) - Robbie&amp;rsquo;s dog dental woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:40) - Pet insurance frustrations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:59) - Is Cracker Barrel a JavaScript framework?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:09) - Do people create negative attention on purpose?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:59) - Fashion flashbacks: JNCOs, scene kids, and pajamas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:38) - Retro gaming consoles and analog nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:17) - Evergreen updates vs. LAN party days&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:18) - Hot Take: Can ChatGPT be your therapist?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:24) - What Robbie and Adam are watching&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:05) - Parenting in the digital age&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:58) - Framework overload, naming struggles, and AI tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:35) - What&#39;s exciting about fall this year&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:10) - Football and the stock market&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:03) - Gardening and plant hacks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:12) - Halloween plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WhistlePig Small Batch Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cracker Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Otis Spunkmeyer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JNCO:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jnco.com/&#34;&gt;https://jnco.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Target:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.target.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stussy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stussy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.stussy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wu Wear:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Topic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hottopic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hottopic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Commodore 64:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini NES:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini SNES:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini Sega Genesis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/&#34;&gt;https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mario Kart World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;8BitDo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.8bitdo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.8bitdo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playstation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario Odyssey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Today:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Last of Us:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AFV:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.afv.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.afv.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mickey Mouse Clubhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rolie Polie Olie:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Toy Story:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jurassic Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Force Awakens:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Mandalorian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Book of Boba Fett:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Andor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lego Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skeleton Crew:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jude Law:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Qoder:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://qoder.com/&#34;&gt;https://qoder.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saquon Barkley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chipotle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chipotle.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.chipotle.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sum 41:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clues by Sam:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cluesbysam.com/&#34;&gt;https://cluesbysam.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;subscribe-and-stay-in-touch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p id=&#34;whiskey-web-and-whatnot-merch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">509cf4d1-ab2e-4780-b0a9-94cb4738e358</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lnvr9ktt7j09t2xy6y8yqcfn.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about JavaScript trends, from the overuse of hooks to frameworks chasing sameness, and why Cracker Barrel&rsquo;s rebrand feels like a frontend metaphor. They dive into tech nostalgia, from retro consoles to old-school LAN parties, and debate AI&rsquo;s role in therapy and modern workflows.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:09) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: WhistlePig Small Batch Rye</li>
<li>(05:48) - Growing plants and bottom watering</li>
<li>(09:43) - Robbie&rsquo;s dog dental woes</li>
<li>(11:40) - Pet insurance frustrations</li>
<li>(16:59) - Is Cracker Barrel a JavaScript framework?</li>
<li>(19:09) - Do people create negative attention on purpose?</li>
<li>(20:59) - Fashion flashbacks: JNCOs, scene kids, and pajamas</li>
<li>(23:38) - Retro gaming consoles and analog nostalgia</li>
<li>(27:17) - Evergreen updates vs. LAN party days</li>
<li>(30:18) - Hot Take: Can ChatGPT be your therapist?</li>
<li>(34:24) - What Robbie and Adam are watching</li>
<li>(39:05) - Parenting in the digital age</li>
<li>(40:58) - Framework overload, naming struggles, and AI tools</li>
<li>(45:35) - What's exciting about fall this year</li>
<li>(49:10) - Football and the stock market</li>
<li>(54:03) - Gardening and plant hacks</li>
<li>(56:12) - Halloween plans</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>WhistlePig Small Batch Rye:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/">https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/</a></li>
<li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/">https://podcasts.apple.com/</a></li>
<li>Norlan:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li>
<li>Cracker Barrel:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crackerbarrel.com/">https://www.crackerbarrel.com/</a></li>
<li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li>
<li>Otis Spunkmeyer:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/">https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/</a></li>
<li>Donald Trump:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump</a></li>
<li>JNCO:&nbsp;<a href="https://jnco.com/">https://jnco.com/</a></li>
<li>Target:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.target.com/">https://www.target.com/</a></li>
<li>Stussy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.stussy.com/">https://www.stussy.com/</a></li>
<li>Wu Wear:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line</a></li>
<li>Hot Topic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hottopic.com/">https://www.hottopic.com/</a></li>
<li>Commodore 64:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64</a></li>
<li>Nintendo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/">https://www.nintendo.com/</a></li>
<li>Mini NES:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN">https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN</a></li>
<li>Mini SNES:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F">https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F</a></li>
<li>Mini Sega Genesis:&nbsp;<a href="https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/">https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/</a></li>
<li>Analogue:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.analogue.co/">https://www.analogue.co/</a></li>
<li>Nintendo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/">https://www.nintendo.com/</a></li>
<li>Mario Kart World:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev">https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev</a></li>
<li>8BitDo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.8bitdo.com/">https://www.8bitdo.com/</a></li>
<li>Playstation:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.playstation.com/">https://www.playstation.com/</a></li>
<li>Switch 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/</a></li>
<li>Super Mario Odyssey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/">https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/</a></li>
<li>Halo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/">https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/</a></li>
<li>South Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>Today:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)</a></li>
<li>The Last of Us:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Bluey:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>AFV:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.afv.com/">https://www.afv.com/</a></li>
<li>Mickey Mouse Clubhouse:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse</a></li>
<li>Rolie Polie Olie:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie</a></li>
<li>Toy Story:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story</a></li>
<li>Star Wars:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars</a></li>
<li>Jurassic Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park</a></li>
<li>The Force Awakens:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens</a></li>
<li>The Mandalorian:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian</a></li>
<li>The Book of Boba Fett:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett</a></li>
<li>Andor:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)</a></li>
<li>Lego Star Wars:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars</a></li>
<li>Skeleton Crew:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew</a></li>
<li>Jude Law:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law</a></li>
<li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>Qoder:&nbsp;<a href="https://qoder.com/">https://qoder.com/</a></li>
<li>Kiro:&nbsp;<a href="https://kiro.dev/">https://kiro.dev/</a></li>
<li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/">https://amazon.com</a></li>
<li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Saquon Barkley:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley</a></li>
<li>Chipotle:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chipotle.com/">https://www.chipotle.com/</a></li>
<li>Sum 41:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41</a></li>
<li>Clues by Sam:&nbsp;<a href="https://cluesbysam.com/">https://cluesbysam.com/</a></li>
</ul>
<p id="connect-with-chuck-and-robbie"><strong>Connect with the hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p id="subscribe-and-stay-in-touch"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/">https://whiskey.fm</a></li>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Is Cracker Barrel a JS Framework?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lnvr9ktt7j09t2xy6y8yqcfn/jfpb1voywpolexy6p0cnz997.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3776</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>209</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk about JavaScript trends, from the overuse of hooks to frameworks chasing sameness, and why Cracker Barrel&amp;rsquo;s rebrand feels like a frontend metaphor. They dive into tech nostalgia, from retro consoles to old-school LAN parties, and debate AI&amp;rsquo;s role in therapy and modern workflows.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: WhistlePig Small Batch Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:48) - Growing plants and bottom watering&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:43) - Robbie&amp;rsquo;s dog dental woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:40) - Pet insurance frustrations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:59) - Is Cracker Barrel a JavaScript framework?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:09) - Do people create negative attention on purpose?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:59) - Fashion flashbacks: JNCOs, scene kids, and pajamas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:38) - Retro gaming consoles and analog nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:17) - Evergreen updates vs. LAN party days&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:18) - Hot Take: Can ChatGPT be your therapist?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:24) - What Robbie and Adam are watching&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:05) - Parenting in the digital age&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:58) - Framework overload, naming struggles, and AI tools&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:35) - What&#39;s exciting about fall this year&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:10) - Football and the stock market&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:03) - Gardening and plant hacks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:12) - Halloween plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WhistlePig Small Batch Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cracker Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Otis Spunkmeyer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JNCO:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jnco.com/&#34;&gt;https://jnco.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Target:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.target.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stussy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stussy.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.stussy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wu Wear:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Topic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hottopic.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.hottopic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Commodore 64:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini NES:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini SNES:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mini Sega Genesis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/&#34;&gt;https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mario Kart World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;8BitDo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.8bitdo.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.8bitdo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playstation:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario Odyssey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Today:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Last of Us:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AFV:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.afv.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.afv.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mickey Mouse Clubhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rolie Polie Olie:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Toy Story:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jurassic Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Force Awakens:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Mandalorian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Book of Boba Fett:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Andor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lego Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skeleton Crew:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jude Law:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Qoder:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://qoder.com/&#34;&gt;https://qoder.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Saquon Barkley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chipotle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chipotle.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.chipotle.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sum 41:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clues by Sam:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cluesbysam.com/&#34;&gt;https://cluesbysam.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with the hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;subscribe-and-stay-in-touch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kyhl56rr9jne6d79nlbbkz8g/thumbnail-kyhl56rr9jne6d79nlbbkz8g.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kyhl56rr9jne6d79nlbbkz8g/thumbnail-kyhl56rr9jne6d79nlbbkz8g.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lnvr9ktt7j09t2xy6y8yqcfn/vzmcvrazgex1ahwfm2z74njk/transcoded-01KECKDVYSRCCNGKMP1N5YPRYQ-01KECKDVYSN41VKKFXQ5ZZM41J_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/lnvr9ktt7j09t2xy6y8yqcfn.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Dial-Up Is Dead, Long Live Adam Argyle</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk about CascadiaJS, Adam&amp;rsquo;s new role at Shopify, and why tech interviews are so broken. They explore accessibility in front-end dev, the sameness of modern frameworks, and whether AI is the future of engineering or just another hype cycle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:46) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Jim Beam Pineapple&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:00) - CascadiaJS preview + speaker lineup&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:27) - Adam&#39;s new role at Shopify&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:47) - Are React hooks officially dead?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:41) - The dev interview process is broken + interview tips&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:01) - Gradient.style&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:09) - Hot Take: no more React clones&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:53) - Adam&#39;s OpenAI interview and NPM nightmares&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:03) - AI and the future of web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Dial-up is dead&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:39) - Physical vs. digital media&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(1:00:39) - Cracker Barrel&amp;rsquo;s makeover&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Travis Kelce:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tkelce&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tkelce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Heights:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CascadiaJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cascadiajs.com/&#34;&gt;https://cascadiajs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carter Rabasa:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carter.rabasa.com/&#34;&gt;https://carter.rabasa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kevin Whinnery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevin.mn/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevin.mn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deno:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34;&gt;https://deno.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie Gerard:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://charliegerard.dev/&#34;&gt;https://charliegerard.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Annie Sexton:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shruti Kapoor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&#34;&gt;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 194: Static, Dynamic, Generative: What&amp;rsquo;s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael Jackson:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mjackson&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mjackson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Knockout:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://knockoutjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://knockoutjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam&#39;s resume:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/resume&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/resume&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gradient.style:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gradient.style/&#34;&gt;https://gradient.style/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Colorzilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colorzilla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.colorzilla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Bos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fireship:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@fireship&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@fireship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam&#39;s LLM chat prototype:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alanis Morissette:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://alanis.com/&#34;&gt;https://alanis.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lex Fridman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lexfridman.com/&#34;&gt;https://lexfridman.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ASAP Rocky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lincoln Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Austin Powers:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sonos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sonos.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.sonos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://home.google.com/welcome/&#34;&gt;https://home.google.com/welcome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beyond Tellerrand:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://beyondtellerrand.com/&#34;&gt;https://beyondtellerrand.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Teenage Engineering K.O. II:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133&#34;&gt;https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elvis Presley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Final Fantasy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cracker Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Logan&#39;s Roadhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://logansroadhouse.com/&#34;&gt;https://logansroadhouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-adam&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Adam&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;subscribe-and-stay-in-touch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p id=&#34;whiskey-web-and-whatnot-merch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fe7008f4-d29c-44a1-9adb-5b18f9a51dd8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yw2hxhz8vgsw3x6kuurirc04.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Adam talk about CascadiaJS, Adam&rsquo;s new role at Shopify, and why tech interviews are so broken. They explore accessibility in front-end dev, the sameness of modern frameworks, and whether AI is the future of engineering or just another hype cycle.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:46) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Jim Beam Pineapple</li>
<li>(07:00) - CascadiaJS preview + speaker lineup</li>
<li>(13:27) - Adam's new role at Shopify</li>
<li>(20:47) - Are React hooks officially dead?</li>
<li>(21:41) - The dev interview process is broken + interview tips</li>
<li>(31:01) - Gradient.style</li>
<li>(35:09) - Hot Take: no more React clones</li>
<li>(36:53) - Adam's OpenAI interview and NPM nightmares</li>
<li>(40:03) - AI and the future of web development</li>
<li>(52:06) - Dial-up is dead</li>
<li>(53:39) - Physical vs. digital media</li>
<li>(1:00:39) - Cracker Barrel&rsquo;s makeover</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Jim Beam Pineapple:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple">https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple</a></li>
<li>Taylor Swift:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.taylorswift.com/">https://www.taylorswift.com/</a></li>
<li>Travis Kelce:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/tkelce">https://x.com/tkelce</a></li>
<li>New Heights:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow">https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow</a></li>
<li>Jim Beam Pineapple:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple">https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple</a></li>
<li>CascadiaJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://cascadiajs.com/">https://cascadiajs.com/</a></li>
<li>Vue.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/">https://vuejs.org/</a></li>
<li>Carter Rabasa:&nbsp;<a href="https://carter.rabasa.com/">https://carter.rabasa.com/</a></li>
<li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li>
<li>Slack:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.slack.com/">https://www.slack.com/</a></li>
<li>Kent C. Dodds:&nbsp;<a href="https://kentcdodds.com/">https://kentcdodds.com/</a></li>
<li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li>
<li>Kevin Whinnery:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kevin.mn/">https://www.kevin.mn/</a></li>
<li>Deno:&nbsp;<a href="https://deno.com/">https://deno.com/</a></li>
<li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/">https://openai.com/</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>Charlie Gerard:&nbsp;<a href="https://charliegerard.dev/">https://charliegerard.dev/</a></li>
<li>Annie Sexton:&nbsp;<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com">https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com</a></li>
<li>Shruti Kapoor:&nbsp;<a href="https://shrutikapoor.dev/">https://shrutikapoor.dev/</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li>
<li>All Things Open:&nbsp;<a href="https://allthingsopen.org/">https://allthingsopen.org/</a></li>
<li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/">https://www.shopify.com/</a></li>
<li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/">https://vercel.com/</a></li>
<li>Ep 194: Static, Dynamic, Generative: What&rsquo;s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch">https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch</a></li>
<li>LeetCode:&nbsp;<a href="https://leetcode.com/">https://leetcode.com/</a></li>
<li>Michael Jackson:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/mjackson">https://x.com/mjackson</a></li>
<li>Remix:&nbsp;<a href="https://remix.run/">https://remix.run/</a></li>
<li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/">https://react.dev/</a></li>
<li>Knockout:&nbsp;<a href="https://knockoutjs.com/">https://knockoutjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Discord:&nbsp;<a href="https://discord.com/">https://discord.com</a></li>
<li>HTML:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li>
<li>Adam's resume:&nbsp;<a href="https://nerdy.dev/resume">https://nerdy.dev/resume</a></li>
<li>Gradient.style:&nbsp;<a href="https://gradient.style/">https://gradient.style/</a></li>
<li>Colorzilla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.colorzilla.com/">https://www.colorzilla.com/</a></li>
<li>Svelte:&nbsp;<a href="https://svelte.dev/">https://svelte.dev/</a></li>
<li>Wes Bos:&nbsp;<a href="https://wesbos.com/">https://wesbos.com/</a></li>
<li>Kiro:&nbsp;<a href="https://kiro.dev/">https://kiro.dev/</a></li>
<li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li>
<li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai</a></li>
<li>Warp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li>
<li>Zed:&nbsp;<a href="https://zed.dev/">https://zed.dev/</a></li>
<li>Fireship:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fireship">https://www.youtube.com/@fireship</a></li>
<li>Shepherd:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a></li>
<li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li>
<li>Adam's LLM chat prototype:&nbsp;<a href="https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype">https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype</a></li>
<li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li>
<li>Alanis Morissette:&nbsp;<a href="https://alanis.com/">https://alanis.com</a></li>
<li>Lex Fridman:&nbsp;<a href="https://lexfridman.com/">https://lexfridman.com/</a></li>
<li>ASAP Rocky:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky</a></li>
<li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li>
<li>Lincoln Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park</a></li>
<li>Austin Powers:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers</a></li>
<li>Sonos:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sonos.com/">https://www.sonos.com/</a></li>
<li>Google Home:&nbsp;<a href="https://home.google.com/welcome/">https://home.google.com/welcome/</a></li>
<li>Beyond Tellerrand:&nbsp;<a href="https://beyondtellerrand.com/">https://beyondtellerrand.com/</a></li>
<li>Teenage Engineering K.O. II:&nbsp;<a href="https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133">https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133</a></li>
<li>Elvis Presley:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley</a></li>
<li>Final Fantasy:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy</a></li>
<li>Cracker Barrel:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.crackerbarrel.com/">https://www.crackerbarrel.com/</a></li>
<li>Logan's Roadhouse:&nbsp;<a href="https://logansroadhouse.com/">https://logansroadhouse.com/</a></li>
</ul>
<p id="connect-with-adam"><strong>Connect with Adam</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://nerdy.dev/">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li>
</ul>
<p id="connect-with-chuck-and-robbie"><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
</ul>
<p id="subscribe-and-stay-in-touch"><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Dial-Up Is Dead, Long Live Adam Argyle</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yw2hxhz8vgsw3x6kuurirc04/q7xjbhqodtbggrvk2apiys2c.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3876</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>208</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Adam talk about CascadiaJS, Adam&amp;rsquo;s new role at Shopify, and why tech interviews are so broken. They explore accessibility in front-end dev, the sameness of modern frameworks, and whether AI is the future of engineering or just another hype cycle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:46) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Jim Beam Pineapple&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:00) - CascadiaJS preview + speaker lineup&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:27) - Adam&#39;s new role at Shopify&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:47) - Are React hooks officially dead?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:41) - The dev interview process is broken + interview tips&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:01) - Gradient.style&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:09) - Hot Take: no more React clones&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:53) - Adam&#39;s OpenAI interview and NPM nightmares&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:03) - AI and the future of web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Dial-up is dead&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:39) - Physical vs. digital media&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(1:00:39) - Cracker Barrel&amp;rsquo;s makeover&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Travis Kelce:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tkelce&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tkelce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Heights:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam Pineapple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CascadiaJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cascadiajs.com/&#34;&gt;https://cascadiajs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carter Rabasa:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carter.rabasa.com/&#34;&gt;https://carter.rabasa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.slack.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.slack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kevin Whinnery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kevin.mn/&#34;&gt;https://www.kevin.mn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deno:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34;&gt;https://deno.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie Gerard:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://charliegerard.dev/&#34;&gt;https://charliegerard.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Annie Sexton:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shruti Kapoor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&#34;&gt;https://shrutikapoor.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ep 194: Static, Dynamic, Generative: What&amp;rsquo;s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael Jackson:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mjackson&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mjackson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Knockout:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://knockoutjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://knockoutjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam&#39;s resume:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/resume&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/resume&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gradient.style:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gradient.style/&#34;&gt;https://gradient.style/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Colorzilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colorzilla.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.colorzilla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Bos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kiro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kiro.dev/&#34;&gt;https://kiro.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34;&gt;https://zed.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fireship:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@fireship&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@fireship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam&#39;s LLM chat prototype:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alanis Morissette:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://alanis.com/&#34;&gt;https://alanis.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lex Fridman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lexfridman.com/&#34;&gt;https://lexfridman.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ASAP Rocky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lincoln Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Austin Powers:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sonos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sonos.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.sonos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Home:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://home.google.com/welcome/&#34;&gt;https://home.google.com/welcome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beyond Tellerrand:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://beyondtellerrand.com/&#34;&gt;https://beyondtellerrand.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Teenage Engineering K.O. II:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133&#34;&gt;https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elvis Presley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Final Fantasy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cracker Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Logan&#39;s Roadhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://logansroadhouse.com/&#34;&gt;https://logansroadhouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-adam&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Adam&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p id=&#34;subscribe-and-stay-in-touch&#34;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tetv0o9ti18mucg2ntmm2m7e/thumbnail-tetv0o9ti18mucg2ntmm2m7e.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tetv0o9ti18mucg2ntmm2m7e/thumbnail-tetv0o9ti18mucg2ntmm2m7e.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yw2hxhz8vgsw3x6kuurirc04/k38bdrqf43az3d390k5uwbsc/transcoded-01KECKDW1WXMDBHY580EGZ9ST6-01KECKDW1W07YB2SV60TH3074M_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/yw2hxhz8vgsw3x6kuurirc04.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Will Frameworks Survive? Web Development in an AI-Driven World w/ Typecraft and Robert Jackson</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert&amp;rsquo;s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:37) - How open source shapes careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:53) - Kids and tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Links&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ohishiwhisky.com/&#34;&gt;https://ohishiwhisky.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;30 Rock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alec Baldwin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arch Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://archlinux.org/&#34;&gt;https://archlinux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ollama:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Wild Wings:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalowildwings.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalowildwings.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Ones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McDonald&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MyFitnessPal:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.myfitnesspal.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.myfitnesspal.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacroFactor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://macrofactorapp.com/&#34;&gt;https://macrofactorapp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-typecraft&#34;&gt;Connect with Typecraft&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-robert&#34;&gt;Connect with Robert&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rwjblue.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.rwjblue.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">30d43be9-df3a-4310-bfdf-6eb3f80c439b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/pljftnjae4v4mf0koeq4yksv.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert&rsquo;s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask</li>
<li>(14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4</li>
<li>(22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops</li>
<li>(29:37) - How open source shapes careers</li>
<li>(36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?</li>
<li>(46:53) - Kids and tech</li>
<li>(47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour</li>
<li>(49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority</li>
</ul>
<h2>Links</h2>
<ul>
<li>Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask:&nbsp;<a href="https://ohishiwhisky.com/">https://ohishiwhisky.com/</a></li>
<li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/">https://emberjs.com/</a></li>
<li>MCP:&nbsp;<a href="https://modelcontextprotocol.io/">https://modelcontextprotocol.io/</a></li>
<li>30 Rock:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock</a></li>
<li>Alec Baldwin:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin</a></li>
<li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li>
<li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/">https://claude.ai/</a></li>
<li>Opus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus">https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus</a></li>
<li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li>
<li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/">https://github.com/</a></li>
<li>Neovim:&nbsp;<a href="https://neovim.io/">https://neovim.io/</a></li>
<li>Arch Linux:&nbsp;<a href="https://archlinux.org/">https://archlinux.org/</a></li>
<li>Apple:&nbsp;<a href="https://apple.com/">https://apple.com</a></li>
<li>Ollama:&nbsp;<a href="https://ollama.com/">https://ollama.com/</a></li>
<li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li>
<li>Ruby on Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li>
<li>Minecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.minecraft.net/">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li>
<li>Buffalo Wild Wings:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buffalowildwings.com/">https://www.buffalowildwings.com/</a></li>
<li>Hot Ones:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones</a></li>
<li>McDonald's:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/">https://www.mcdonalds.com/</a></li>
<li>MyFitnessPal:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.myfitnesspal.com/">https://www.myfitnesspal.com/</a></li>
<li>MacroFactor:&nbsp;<a href="https://macrofactorapp.com/">https://macrofactorapp.com/</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="connect-with-typecraft">Connect with Typecraft</h2>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li>
<li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/typecraft_dev">https://x.com/typecraft_dev</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="connect-with-robert">Connect with Robert</h2>
<ul>
<li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rwjblue.com/">https://www.rwjblue.com/</a></li>
<li>Bluesky:&nbsp;<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com">https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com</a></li>
</ul>
<h2 id="connect-with-chuck-and-robbie">Connect with Chuck and Robbie</h2>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Will Frameworks Survive? Web Development in an AI-Driven World w/ Typecraft and Robert Jackson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pljftnjae4v4mf0koeq4yksv/oum38baknpbj6gvtx823n6xg.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3686</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>207</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert&amp;rsquo;s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:19) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:37) - How open source shapes careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:53) - Kids and tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2&gt;Links&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ohishiwhisky.com/&#34;&gt;https://ohishiwhisky.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MCP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&#34;&gt;https://modelcontextprotocol.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;30 Rock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alec Baldwin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Opus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Neovim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arch Linux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://archlinux.org/&#34;&gt;https://archlinux.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ollama:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Wild Wings:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalowildwings.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalowildwings.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Ones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;McDonald&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MyFitnessPal:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.myfitnesspal.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.myfitnesspal.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MacroFactor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://macrofactorapp.com/&#34;&gt;https://macrofactorapp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-typecraft&#34;&gt;Connect with Typecraft&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-robert&#34;&gt;Connect with Robert&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rwjblue.com/&#34;&gt;https://www.rwjblue.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;h2 id=&#34;connect-with-chuck-and-robbie&#34;&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/rb6plx7oskxptymcbgzmttb7/thumbnail-rb6plx7oskxptymcbgzmttb7.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/rb6plx7oskxptymcbgzmttb7/thumbnail-rb6plx7oskxptymcbgzmttb7.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pljftnjae4v4mf0koeq4yksv/x8k7kdvisjsdoszlb6nc0hbl/transcoded-01KECKCZ62GVTVF4KPKABDMF8E-01KECKCZ62VVVW66SY2FDA8A7E_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/pljftnjae4v4mf0koeq4yksv.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Live from Big Sky Dev Con: Code Debates, Content Insights, and What&#39;s Next for Web Development</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Live from Big Sky Dev Con, Robbie is joined by Aaron Francis, Ken Wheeler, and Typecraft to discuss HTML and CSS programming status, React’s future, app security failures, NPM’s weak spots, content creation hooks, survival tech fantasies, and balancing big tech ambitions with family life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:55) - Whiskey rating and review: Undammed Distilling Co. Shields River - Single (Malt ) -Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:52) - Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(05:30) - Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(06:34) - Will classes make a comeback in React?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:02) - The Tea app fiasco&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:10) - When NPM flags critical code as malicious&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:36) - Turning technical know-how into content people actually want&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:32) - One piece of tech to survive in the Montana wilderness&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:37) - Balancing family life, content creation, and work&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:06) - The pros and cons of working from home&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:49) - Predicting the tech debates of 2030&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:59) - One piece of advice you wish you’d been given&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Undammed Distilling Co.:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://undammedspirits.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://undammedspirits.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Michael Jackson&#39;s tweet about React Hooks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Firebase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stripe:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stripe.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stripe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twilio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twilio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twilio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://replit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamwathan/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamwathan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Go-Giver by Bob Burg:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Go-Giver-Expanded-Little-Powerful-Business/dp/1591848288&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/lc8PWOrJjVNIDHAHLFyyphGqPUyANhXJHyNop5ARfZY</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tt8p5y9885s96h8k7v4ql1qw.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live from Big Sky Dev Con, Robbie is joined by Aaron Francis, Ken Wheeler, and Typecraft to discuss HTML and CSS programming status, React’s future, app security failures, NPM’s weak spots, content creation hooks, survival tech fantasies, and balancing big tech ambitions with family life.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(00:55) - Whiskey rating and review: Undammed Distilling Co. Shields River - Single (Malt ) -Whiskey</li><li>(03:52) - Is HTML a programming language?</li><li>(05:30) - Is CSS a programming language?</li><li>(06:34) - Will classes make a comeback in React?</li><li>(10:02) - The Tea app fiasco</li><li>(15:10) - When NPM flags critical code as malicious</li><li>(20:36) - Turning technical know-how into content people actually want</li><li>(26:32) - One piece of tech to survive in the Montana wilderness</li><li>(29:37) - Balancing family life, content creation, and work</li><li>(35:06) - The pros and cons of working from home</li><li>(38:49) - Predicting the tech debates of 2030</li><li>(45:59) - One piece of advice you wish you’d been given</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Aaron Francis:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/aarondfrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/aarondfrancis</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>Typecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li>Undammed Distilling Co.:&nbsp;<a href="https://undammedspirits.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://undammedspirits.com/</a></li><li>HTML:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/html/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3schools.com/html/</a></li><li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a></li><li>Minecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.minecraft.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.minecraft.net/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>Michael Jackson's tweet about React Hooks:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465</a></li><li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.php.net/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Remix:&nbsp;<a href="https://remix.run/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://remix.run/</a></li><li>Firebase:&nbsp;<a href="https://firebase.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://firebase.google.com/</a></li><li>Stripe:&nbsp;<a href="https://stripe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stripe.com/</a></li><li>Twilio:&nbsp;<a 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target="_blank">https://www.google.com/</a></li><li>Linux:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linux.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linux.org/</a></li><li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li>Mark Twain:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain</a></li><li>SQLite:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sqlite.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sqlite.org/</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li><li>WeChat:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wechat.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.wechat.com/</a></li><li>iPhone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/iphone/</a></li><li>MapQuest:&nbsp;<a 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target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li><li>Taylor Otwell:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/taylorotwell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/taylorotwell</a></li><li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li>The Go-Giver by Bob Burg:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Go-Giver-Expanded-Little-Powerful-Business/dp/1591848288" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Go-Giver-Expanded-Little-Powerful-Business/dp/1591848288</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Live from Big Sky Dev Con: Code Debates, Content Insights, and What&#39;s Next for Web Development</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tt8p5y9885s96h8k7v4ql1qw/ve461gxmhj4mmwn7scsatk6d.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2995</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>206</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Live from Big Sky Dev Con, Robbie is joined by Aaron Francis, Ken Wheeler, and Typecraft to discuss HTML and CSS programming status, React’s future, app security failures, NPM’s weak spots, content creation hooks, survival tech fantasies, and balancing big tech ambitions with family life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:55) - Whiskey rating and review: Undammed Distilling Co. Shields River - Single (Malt ) -Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:52) - Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(05:30) - Is CSS a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(06:34) - Will classes make a comeback in React?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:02) - The Tea app fiasco&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:10) - When NPM flags critical code as malicious&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:36) - Turning technical know-how into content people actually want&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:32) - One piece of tech to survive in the Montana wilderness&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:37) - Balancing family life, content creation, and work&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:06) - The pros and cons of working from home&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:49) - Predicting the tech debates of 2030&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:59) - One piece of advice you wish you’d been given&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Undammed Distilling Co.:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://undammedspirits.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://undammedspirits.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTML:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Michael Jackson&#39;s tweet about React Hooks:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Firebase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stripe:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stripe.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stripe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twilio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twilio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twilio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/unov068ftdh6j113mi46k7if/thumbnail-unov068ftdh6j113mi46k7if.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/unov068ftdh6j113mi46k7if/thumbnail-unov068ftdh6j113mi46k7if.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tt8p5y9885s96h8k7v4ql1qw/qwrdturrmks6qb9zal7hf33w/transcoded-01KECKDE5NXTH0A60CQE34BZVP-01KECKDE5NBM26J055HN4DHRRD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Error 500: Our Lives</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey on Mondays, parenting chaos, and Chuck’s hot-water disaster. They dive into open-source dependency drama, including the Stylus package getting flagged as malicious, and the TEA app’s massive data leak. They question the stability of NPM, the illusion of software licensing security, and the ethics of data deletion. They also explore how AI is transforming development workflows—sometimes usefully, sometimes hilariously wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:07) - Whiskey review &amp;amp; rating: Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Robbie’s domestic chaos &amp;amp; Chuck’s plumbing nightmare&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:55) - The Stylus debacle and the fragility of NPM&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:05) - Insurance headaches, contractor woes, and house stress&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:16) - Mac Minis, podcast metrics, and behind-the-scenes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:09) - Europe drinks better than we do&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:37) - Tea&#39;s data breach&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:33) - Using AI for real-world dev problems (and plumbing fixes)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:01) - Your data is never really deleted&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:23) - Why podcast metrics are kind of a scam&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:44) - Big Sky Dev Con live episode&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(49:28) - Chuck’s moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:09) - Jedi Survivor, Destiny 2, and gaming on the road&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:37) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rittenhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copper Fox Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AWS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;npm &#39;accidentally&#39; removes Stylus package, breaks builds and pipelines:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tea:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teaforwomen.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.teaforwomen.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tea encouraged its users to spill. Then the app&#39;s data got leaked:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;SQL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mysql.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mysql.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Supabase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Postgres:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TypeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cypress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cypress.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cypress.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Playwright:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://playwright.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ART19:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://art19.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://art19.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Malort:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://malort.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://malort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi Survivor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi: Fallen Order:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Destiny 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Indiana Jones and the Great Circle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tears of the Kingdom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;FIFA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fifa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Breath of the Wild:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mario Kart World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Donkey Kong:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ocarina of Time:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Anagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;George Clooney:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/tL1lOBkfi3emt6rnCjlXPYGmuoph2Ce8TXxVAN-VMYM</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/g0l7r24ug5ghgdb68j0s87m2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey on Mondays, parenting chaos, and Chuck’s hot-water disaster. They dive into open-source dependency drama, including the Stylus package getting flagged as malicious, and the TEA app’s massive data leak. They question the stability of NPM, the illusion of software licensing security, and the ethics of data deletion. They also explore how AI is transforming development workflows—sometimes usefully, sometimes hilariously wrong.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(01:07) - Whiskey review &amp; rating: Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey</li><li>(08:15) - Robbie’s domestic chaos &amp; Chuck’s plumbing nightmare</li><li>(13:55) - The Stylus debacle and the fragility of NPM</li><li>(19:05) - Insurance headaches, contractor woes, and house stress</li><li>(25:16) - Mac Minis, podcast metrics, and behind-the-scenes</li><li>(29:09) - Europe drinks better than we do</li><li>(30:37) - Tea's data breach</li><li>(35:33) - Using AI for real-world dev problems (and plumbing fixes)</li><li>(43:01) - Your data is never really deleted</li><li>(46:23) - Why podcast metrics are kind of a scam</li><li>(47:44) - Big Sky Dev Con live episode</li><li>(49:28) - Chuck’s moving to Italy</li><li>(50:09) - Jedi Survivor, Destiny 2, and gaming on the road</li><li>(55:37) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone</a></li><li>Rittenhouse:&nbsp;<a href="http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php</a></li><li>Copper Fox Distillery:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com</a></li><li>Dax:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a></li><li>AWS:&nbsp;<a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aws.amazon.com/</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Stylus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus</a></li><li>npm 'accidentally' removes Stylus package, breaks builds and pipelines:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/</a></li><li>Tea:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teaforwomen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.teaforwomen.com/</a></li><li>Tea encouraged its users to spill. Then the app's data got leaked:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks</a></li><li>NPM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.npmjs.com/</a></li><li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li><li>CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/</a></li><li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li>npm left-pad incident:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident</a></li><li>FakerJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://fakerjs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fakerjs.dev/</a></li><li>David Cramer:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/zeeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/zeeg</a></li><li>MIT:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mit.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mit.edu</a></li><li>Granted insurance:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.grantinsurance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.grantinsurance.com/</a></li><li>7-Eleven:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.7-eleven.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.7-eleven.com/</a></li><li>Accenture:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.accenture.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.accenture.com/</a></li><li>Opera Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.opera.com/mini" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.opera.com/mini</a></li><li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li><li>Lex Fridman Podcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lexfridman.com/podcast/</a></li><li>Mac Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a></li><li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li><li>Typecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li>iPhone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/iphone/</a></li><li>Firebase:&nbsp;<a href="https://firebase.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://firebase.google.com/</a></li><li>SQL:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mysql.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mysql.com/</a></li><li>Supabase:&nbsp;<a href="https://supabase.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://supabase.com/</a></li><li>Postgres:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.postgresql.org/</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>TypeScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Shepherd:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li>Cypress:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cypress.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cypress.io/</a></li><li>Playwright:&nbsp;<a href="https://playwright.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://playwright.dev/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>ART19:&nbsp;<a href="https://art19.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/</a></li><li>Malort:&nbsp;<a href="https://malort.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://malort.com/</a></li><li>Primeagen:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>Jedi Survivor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor</a></li><li>Jedi: Fallen Order:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order</a></li><li>Switch 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/</a></li><li>Destiny 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny</a></li><li>Indiana Jones and the Great Circle:&nbsp;<a href="https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US</a></li><li>Tears of the Kingdom:&nbsp;<a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/</a></li><li>FIFA:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fifa.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fifa.com/</a></li><li>Breath of the Wild:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild</a></li><li>Mario Kart World:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev</a></li><li>Donkey Kong:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong</a></li><li>Ocarina of Time:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time</a></li><li>Anagram:&nbsp;<a href="https://danabra.mov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://danabra.mov/</a></li><li>George Clooney:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney</a></li><li>Elon Musk:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Error 500: Our Lives</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/g0l7r24ug5ghgdb68j0s87m2/q4rvv9hr9yrj8tz4f7korrs8.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3426</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>205</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey on Mondays, parenting chaos, and Chuck’s hot-water disaster. They dive into open-source dependency drama, including the Stylus package getting flagged as malicious, and the TEA app’s massive data leak. They question the stability of NPM, the illusion of software licensing security, and the ethics of data deletion. They also explore how AI is transforming development workflows—sometimes usefully, sometimes hilariously wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:07) - Whiskey review &amp;amp; rating: Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Robbie’s domestic chaos &amp;amp; Chuck’s plumbing nightmare&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:55) - The Stylus debacle and the fragility of NPM&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:05) - Insurance headaches, contractor woes, and house stress&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:16) - Mac Minis, podcast metrics, and behind-the-scenes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:09) - Europe drinks better than we do&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:37) - Tea&#39;s data breach&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:33) - Using AI for real-world dev problems (and plumbing fixes)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:01) - Your data is never really deleted&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:23) - Why podcast metrics are kind of a scam&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:44) - Big Sky Dev Con live episode&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(49:28) - Chuck’s moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:09) - Jedi Survivor, Destiny 2, and gaming on the road&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:37) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rittenhouse:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copper Fox Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AWS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stylus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;npm &#39;accidentally&#39; removes Stylus package, breaks builds and pipelines:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tea:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teaforwomen.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.teaforwomen.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tea encouraged its users to spill. Then the app&#39;s data got leaked:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NPM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npmjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;npm left-pad incident:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;FakerJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fakerjs.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fakerjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;David Cramer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;MIT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mit.edu/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mit.edu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Granted insurance:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.grantinsurance.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.grantinsurance.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;7-Eleven:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.7-eleven.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.7-eleven.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Accenture:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.accenture.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.accenture.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Opera Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.opera.com/mini&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.opera.com/mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lex Fridman Podcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lexfridman.com/podcast/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lexfridman.com/podcast/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mac Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;iPhone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/iphone/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Firebase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;SQL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mysql.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mysql.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Supabase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Postgres:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TypeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cypress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cypress.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cypress.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Playwright:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://playwright.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ART19:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://art19.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://art19.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Malort:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://malort.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://malort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi Survivor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi: Fallen Order:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Destiny 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Indiana Jones and the Great Circle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tears of the Kingdom:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;FIFA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fifa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Breath of the Wild:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mario Kart World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Donkey Kong:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ocarina of Time:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Anagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;George Clooney:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; 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Tom shares his journey from building a podcast app during the pandemic to working in developer relations at CloudMosa. They dive into digital minimalism, the surprisingly advanced features of today’s flip phones, and what it’s like to work remotely while traveling the globe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:07) - Meet Tom Barrasso&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:54) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Johnny Walker Black&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:07) - Hot Take: Tailwind or vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:26) - Hot Take: Fit rebase or merge?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:13) - Hot Take: VS Code sidebar left or right?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:33) - Hot Take: Were smartphones a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:04) - Is switching to a flip phone easier today?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:17) - Increasingly expensive fast food&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:58) - A brief history of flip phones&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:13) - Building for devices the modern web forgot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:17) - How AI fits into developing for feature phones&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:28) - Language quirks, accents, and phonetic texting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:34) - Tips for digital nomads and Tom’s global travels&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:15) - Workplace politics&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:21) - What would Tom do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(59:04) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Johnnie Walker Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CloudMosa:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudmosa.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudmosa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cloud Phone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudphone.tech/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudphone.tech/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Opera Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.opera.com/mini&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.opera.com/mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Xiamoi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mi.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mi.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tennessee Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;University of Massachusetts Amherst:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.umass.edu/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.umass.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Macallan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.themacallan.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.themacallan.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Git:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/GIT&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/GIT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;C++:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/cpp/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/cpp/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reddit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nokia:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nokia.com/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://getbootstrap.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Smashing Magazine:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.smashingmagazine.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.smashingmagazine.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Watch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/watch/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/watch/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kindle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/kindle&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com/kindle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ES3:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_versions.asp&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_versions.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;KaiOS.dev:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kaios.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kaios.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TypeScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Docker:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docker.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.docker.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Angular:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://angular.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck E. Cheese:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_E._Cheese&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_E._Cheese&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Whisper:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/index/whisper/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/index/whisper/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Google Translate:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://translate.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://translate.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Muppets:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Facebook:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.facebook.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PillPack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pillpack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.pillpack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IKEA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ikea.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ikea.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Samsung:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.samsung.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.samsung.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitcoin.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bitcoin.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Inevitable by Kevin Kelly:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future/dp/0143110373&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future/dp/0143110373&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wired:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wired.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wired.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Tom&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barrasso.me/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://barrasso.me/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Tombarr&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/Tombarr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/6ATDvZfyMX5NOFCStF6kLNveRn6Gii8T0Xh7cBs8wn4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/asgb2oqhx167pgyuqk9guqwx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Tom Barrasso about building modern web apps for $15 flip phones, and the challenges of building for ultra-low-end devices. Tom shares his journey from building a podcast app during the pandemic to working in developer relations at CloudMosa. They dive into digital minimalism, the surprisingly advanced features of today’s flip phones, and what it’s like to work remotely while traveling the globe.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(01:07) - Meet Tom Barrasso</li><li>(02:54) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Johnny Walker Black</li><li>(12:07) - Hot Take: Tailwind or vanilla CSS</li><li>(12:26) - Hot Take: Fit rebase or merge?</li><li>(13:13) - Hot Take: VS Code sidebar left or right?</li><li>(13:33) - Hot Take: Were smartphones a mistake?</li><li>(16:04) - Is switching to a flip phone easier today?</li><li>(21:17) - Increasingly expensive fast food</li><li>(22:58) - A brief history of flip phones</li><li>(29:13) - Building for devices the modern web forgot</li><li>(34:17) - How AI fits into developing for feature phones</li><li>(39:28) - Language quirks, accents, and phonetic texting</li><li>(42:34) - Tips for digital nomads and Tom’s global travels</li><li>(50:15) - Workplace politics</li><li>(55:21) - What would Tom do if not in tech?</li><li>(59:04) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Johnnie Walker Black:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label</a></li><li>CloudMosa:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cloudmosa.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cloudmosa.com/</a></li><li>Cloud Phone:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cloudphone.tech/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cloudphone.tech/</a></li><li>Opera Mini:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.opera.com/mini" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.opera.com/mini</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/</a></li><li>Xiamoi:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mi.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mi.com/</a></li><li>Jack Daniel's:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jackdaniels.com/</a></li><li>Tennessee Honey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey</a></li><li>University of Massachusetts Amherst:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.umass.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.umass.edu/</a></li><li>Macallan:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.themacallan.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.themacallan.com/</a></li><li>Tailwind:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li>Git:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/GIT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/GIT</a></li><li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/</a></li><li>C++:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/cpp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3schools.com/cpp/</a></li><li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com</a></li><li>Reddit:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/</a></li><li>Nokia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nokia.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nokia.com/</a></li><li>AirPods:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/airpods/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/airpods/</a></li><li>Uber:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.uber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.uber.com/</a></li><li>Chipotle:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chipotle.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chipotle.com/</a></li><li>Taco Bell:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tacobell.com/</a></li><li>McDonald's:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mcdonalds.com/</a></li><li>Motorola Razr:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.motorola.com/us/en/family/razr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.motorola.com/us/en/family/razr</a></li><li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li><li>Java:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.java.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.java.com/</a></li><li>Verizon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.verizon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.verizon.com/</a></li><li>T-Mobile:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.t-mobile.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.t-mobile.com/</a></li><li>Blackberry:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.blackberry.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.blackberry.com/</a></li><li>Google:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/</a></li><li>Firefox:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.firefox.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.firefox.com/</a></li><li>KaiOS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kaiostech.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kaiostech.com/</a></li><li>Geophone:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophone" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophone</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Joe Rogan:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan</a></li><li>Boostrap:&nbsp;<a href="https://getbootstrap.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://getbootstrap.com/</a></li><li>Smashing Magazine:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.smashingmagazine.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smashingmagazine.com/</a></li><li>Apple Watch:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/watch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/watch/</a></li><li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li>Kindle:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/kindle" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://amazon.com/kindle</a></li><li>ES3:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_versions.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_versions.asp</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>KaiOS.dev:&nbsp;<a href="https://kaios.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kaios.dev/</a></li><li>TypeScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a></li><li>Docker:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.docker.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.docker.com/</a></li><li>Angular:&nbsp;<a href="https://angular.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://angular.dev/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>Chuck E. Cheese:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_E._Cheese" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_E._Cheese</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Gemini:&nbsp;<a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li>Whisper:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/index/whisper/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openai.com/index/whisper/</a></li><li>Google Translate:&nbsp;<a href="https://translate.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://translate.google.com/</a></li><li>The Muppets:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets</a></li><li>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/</a></li><li>PillPack:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pillpack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.pillpack.com/</a></li><li>IKEA:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ikea.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ikea.com/</a></li><li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.php.net/</a></li><li>Samsung:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.samsung.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.samsung.com/</a></li><li>Bitcoin:&nbsp;<a href="https://bitcoin.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitcoin.org/</a></li><li>The Inevitable by Kevin Kelly:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future/dp/0143110373" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Understanding-Technological-Forces-Future/dp/0143110373</a></li><li>Sam Altman:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/sama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/sama</a></li><li>Wired:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wired.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.wired.com/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Tom</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://barrasso.me/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://barrasso.me/</a></li><li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/Tombarr" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/Tombarr</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Modern Web Dev Meets 2000s Flip Phone: What Could Go Wrong?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/asgb2oqhx167pgyuqk9guqwx/nw15dwqkfnbrzuvnnzq7a5oc.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3822</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>204</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Tom Barrasso about building modern web apps for $15 flip phones, and the challenges of building for ultra-low-end devices. Tom shares his journey from building a podcast app during the pandemic to working in developer relations at CloudMosa. They dive into digital minimalism, the surprisingly advanced features of today’s flip phones, and what it’s like to work remotely while traveling the globe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:07) - Meet Tom Barrasso&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:54) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Johnny Walker Black&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:07) - Hot Take: Tailwind or vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:26) - Hot Take: Fit rebase or merge?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:13) - Hot Take: VS Code sidebar left or right?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:33) - Hot Take: Were smartphones a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:04) - Is switching to a flip phone easier today?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:17) - Increasingly expensive fast food&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:58) - A brief history of flip phones&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:13) - Building for devices the modern web forgot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:17) - How AI fits into developing for feature phones&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:28) - Language quirks, accents, and phonetic texting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:34) - Tips for digital nomads and Tom’s global travels&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:15) - Workplace politics&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:21) - What would Tom do if not in tech?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(59:04) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Johnnie Walker Black:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.johnniewalker.com/en-us/our-whisky/core-range/johnnie-walker-black-label&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CloudMosa:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudmosa.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudmosa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cloud Phone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudphone.tech/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudphone.tech/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Opera Mini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.opera.com/mini&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.opera.com/mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Xiamoi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mi.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mi.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tennessee Honey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;University of Massachusetts Amherst:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.umass.edu/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.umass.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Macallan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.themacallan.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.themacallan.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/srpd4kgglmrsi83rrqeflzkv/thumbnail-srpd4kgglmrsi83rrqeflzkv.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/srpd4kgglmrsi83rrqeflzkv/thumbnail-srpd4kgglmrsi83rrqeflzkv.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/asgb2oqhx167pgyuqk9guqwx/if1m5c0tdx8mw1ebnyst3d6w/transcoded-01KECKD2D2R59DTE4T5KC86TXJ-01KECKD2D26PDF8CT25PZ73JP3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/asgb2oqhx167pgyuqk9guqwx.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>From the Rickhouse: Tech Talk, Social Media Use, and Netflix with The Primeagen</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React&#39;s evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:39) - Introduction to The Primeagen&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:21) - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:13) - Tech hot takes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:49) - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:38) - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:02:25) - The Primeagen’s take on pornography&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:18:09) - The influence of The Primeagen&#39;s father&#39;s passing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:21:48) - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeTime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkprime.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spiritsoffrenchlick.com/bourbon&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stitzelwellerdistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitzel-Weller Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blaircandy.com/bubbalicious/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bubbalicious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;W.L. 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/zFquzJes6Tw759r3xhLjEoj8KUN8qBmu1GisNcR27_0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/gitdrrciocgr5080whmehvjw.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother.</p><p>Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React's evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.</p><p>In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot</li><li>(01:39) - Introduction to The Primeagen</li><li>(04:21) - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon</li><li>(14:13) - Tech hot takes</li><li>(44:49) - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use</li><li>(56:38) - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech</li><li>(01:02:25) - The Primeagen’s take on pornography</li><li>(01:18:09) - The influence of The Primeagen's father's passing</li><li>(01:21:48) - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Quotes</strong></p><p>[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p><p>[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p><p>[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitch</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Primeagen Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ThePrimeTime</a></li><li><a href="https://drinkprime.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Prime</a></li><li><a href="https://www.spiritsoffrenchlick.com/bourbon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.stitzelwellerdistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stitzel-Weller Distillery</a></li><li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pappy Van Winkle</a></li><li><a href="https://blaircandy.com/bubbalicious/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bubbalicious</a></li><li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">W.L. Weller Antique</a></li><li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Windows</a></li><li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Oracle</a></li><li><a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">React</a></li><li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li><li><a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HashiCorp</a></li><li><a href="https://dhh.dk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">David Heinemeier Hansson</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/BufferingWarren" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Warren Buffering</a></li><li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rust</a></li><li><a href="https://www.voodoodoughnut.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Voodoo Doughnut</a></li><li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li><li><a href="https://bun.sh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bun</a></li><li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Linux</a></li><li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Vite</a></li><li><a href="https://astro.build/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Astro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li><li><a href="https://dvorak-keyboard.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dvorak Keyboard</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li><a href="https://stadia.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li></ul><p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>&nbsp;</li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From the Rickhouse: Tech Talk, Social Media Use, and Netflix with The Primeagen</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gitdrrciocgr5080whmehvjw/ts9t83layous5643fymsqh68.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>5746</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>203</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React&#39;s evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:39) - Introduction to The Primeagen&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:21) - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:13) - Tech hot takes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:49) - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:38) - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:02:25) - The Primeagen’s take on pornography&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:18:09) - The influence of The Primeagen&#39;s father&#39;s passing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:21:48) - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz/thumbnail-g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz/thumbnail-g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gitdrrciocgr5080whmehvjw/j9pzlz5tubdot9snxyu9iq06/transcoded-01KECKDBDFM8S7596D9R7KY2WC-01KECKDBDFYWATSDK270K8ZCPF_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/gitdrrciocgr5080whmehvjw.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>From the Rickhouse: Why Svelte Might Just Outdo React w/ Rich Harris</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this special International Whiskey Day episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich&#39;s journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:48) - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:28) - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:40) - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:59) - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:29) - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:34) - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:57) - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:51) - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:40) - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:29) - The Developer&#39;s Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:17) - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:11) - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:24) - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:34) - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:03) - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:54) - The Global Developer Conference Scene&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(59:18) - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rich Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/GtBQdCuhvYtgcFhG-M_1a2fpmCRw17Zmc5EjwGUfnfM</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/c2nogibwd7p910r5m7zlixzx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special International Whiskey Day episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris.&nbsp;</p><p>They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich's journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha.&nbsp;</p><p>The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing.&nbsp;</p><p>The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special</li><li>(00:48) - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte</li><li>(01:28) - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love</li><li>(02:40) - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure</li><li>(03:59) - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience</li><li>(07:29) - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints</li><li>(10:34) - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond</li><li>(11:57) - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More</li><li>(24:51) - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools</li><li>(27:40) - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate</li><li>(30:29) - The Developer's Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience</li><li>(31:17) - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build</li><li>(33:11) - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities</li><li>(34:24) - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use</li><li>(40:34) - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite</li><li>(50:03) - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions</li><li>(56:54) - The Global Developer Conference Scene</li><li>(59:18) - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li>Rich Harris: <a href="https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Svelte: <a href="https://svelte.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://svelte.dev/</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul><li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>&nbsp;</li><li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From the Rickhouse: Why Svelte Might Just Outdo React w/ Rich Harris</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c2nogibwd7p910r5m7zlixzx/q7aacfz51y5ijkt90rgiztlb.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3718</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>202</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this special International Whiskey Day episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich&#39;s journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:48) - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:28) - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:40) - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:59) - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:29) - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:34) - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:57) - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:51) - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:40) - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:29) - The Developer&#39;s Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:17) - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:11) - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:24) - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:34) - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:03) - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:54) - The Global Developer Conference Scene&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(59:18) - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rich Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c2nogibwd7p910r5m7zlixzx/szmxvntbaaiyoby6mgjzc4n3/transcoded-01KECKDQ5B47VGEN151MYH41NT-01KECKDQ5B9DHH64D10PE0CMRH_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From FAANG to Fired: The Illusion of Stability in Big Tech w/ Adam Argyle</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and special guest co-host Adam Argyle talk about life after layoffs, the myth of job security at big tech companies, and what it really means to build meaningful things on the web.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:45) - From FAANG to fired: the illusion of stability in Big Tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:49) - How HTML and CSS are replacing JavaScript, one feature at a time&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:13) - Robbie’s role at HashiCorp&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - What is AI actually good at?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:30) - Taste, tools, and the art of building with (or without) AI&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:32) - Waking and baking&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(58:54) - Robbie on raising twins&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:03:05) - Why Robbie left Amazon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:04:25) - Where tech is headed: AI, burnout, and the future of creativity&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:09:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chicken Cock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan Glass:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TanStack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Netlify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lady Bird:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ladybird.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ladybird.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mozilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mozilla.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brilliant:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brilliant.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brilliant.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Duolingo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.duolingo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.duolingo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Westworld:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dead Space:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Awwwards:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.awwwards.com/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Adam&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; 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time</li><li>(23:13) - Robbie’s role at HashiCorp</li><li>(26:47) - What is AI actually good at?</li><li>(53:30) - Taste, tools, and the art of building with (or without) AI</li><li>(57:32) - Waking and baking</li><li>(58:54) - Robbie on raising twins</li><li>(01:03:05) - Why Robbie left Amazon</li><li>(01:04:25) - Where tech is headed: AI, burnout, and the future of creativity</li><li>(01:09:20) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Chicken Cock:&nbsp;<a href="https://chickencockwhiskey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chickencockwhiskey.com/</a></li><li>Seinfeld:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld</a></li><li>Norlan Glass:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li><li>Chrome:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/chrome/</a></li><li>South Park:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a></li><li>TanStack:&nbsp;<a href="https://tanstack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tanstack.com/</a></li><li>Netlify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netlify.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.netlify.com/</a></li><li>Shopify:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shopify.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shopify.com</a></li><li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li><li>Lady Bird:&nbsp;<a href="https://ladybird.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ladybird.org</a></li><li>Mozilla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mozilla.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org/</a></li><li>Brilliant:&nbsp;<a href="https://brilliant.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://brilliant.org/</a></li><li>Duolingo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.duolingo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.duolingo.com/</a></li><li>Apple:&nbsp;<a href="https://apple.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://apple.com</a></li><li>Westworld:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)</a></li><li>Dead Space:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space</a></li><li>Awwwards:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.awwwards.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.awwwards.com/</a></li><li>Vue:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vuejs.org/</a></li><li>Safari:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/safari/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/safari/</a></li><li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li>Figma:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.figma.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.figma.com/</a></li><li>Lodash:&nbsp;<a href="https://lodash.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lodash.com/</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li>Firebase Studio:&nbsp;<a href="https://firebase.studio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://firebase.studio/</a></li><li>Zed:&nbsp;<a href="https://zed.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://zed.dev/</a></li><li>NotebookLM:&nbsp;<a href="https://notebooklm.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://notebooklm.google.com/</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a></li><li>Cline:&nbsp;<a href="https://cline.bot/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cline.bot/</a></li><li>Deno:&nbsp;<a href="https://deno.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://deno.com/</a></li><li>Sam Altman:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/sama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/sama</a></li><li>DeepSeek:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.deepseek.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.deepseek.com/</a></li><li>Dia:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.diabrowser.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.diabrowser.com/</a></li><li>Warp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li>Honda Accord:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord</a></li><li>Silicon Valley:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)</a></li><li>Bitcoin:&nbsp;<a href="https://bitcoin.org/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitcoin.org/en/</a></li><li>Catch Me If You Can:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_Me_If_You_Can" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_Me_If_You_Can</a></li><li>Copilot:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>MySpace:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace</a></li><li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Adam</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://nerdy.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nerdy.dev/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From FAANG to Fired: The Illusion of Stability in Big Tech w/ Adam Argyle</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/z15htnrn9r8345c6bp8h28os/zdqkv77nilh5ra192wjc5khy.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4279</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>201</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and special guest co-host Adam Argyle talk about life after layoffs, the myth of job security at big tech companies, and what it really means to build meaningful things on the web.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:45) - From FAANG to fired: the illusion of stability in Big Tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:49) - How HTML and CSS are replacing JavaScript, one feature at a time&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:13) - Robbie’s role at HashiCorp&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - What is AI actually good at?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:30) - Taste, tools, and the art of building with (or without) AI&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:32) - Waking and baking&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(58:54) - Robbie on raising twins&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:03:05) - Why Robbie left Amazon&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:04:25) - Where tech is headed: AI, burnout, and the future of creativity&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:09:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chicken Cock:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan Glass:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;South Park:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TanStack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Netlify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shopify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shopify.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lady Bird:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ladybird.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ladybird.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mozilla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mozilla.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brilliant:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brilliant.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brilliant.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Duolingo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.duolingo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.duolingo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apple.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Westworld:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dead Space:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Awwwards:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.awwwards.com/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/z15htnrn9r8345c6bp8h28os/dtduw21dzrpcjar386rca2ib/transcoded-01KECKCHSMQ6C54B984Z2AKW29-01KECKCHSMN7X8GT2MEA4J7ABP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller &amp; Rishi Malik</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kendall Miller and Rishi Malik about their startup Friday Deployment Spirits, and creating whiskey for developers. They discuss the art of making good whiskey, bourbon vs rye, coding in the age of AI, and much more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:53) - Meet Rishi and Kendall&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:01) - Whiskey rating and review: Friday Deployment Generative A Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:27) - Hot take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:56) - Hot Take: Bourbon or Rye?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:13) - Is deploying on a Friday bad?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(37:57) - Payment systems, Web3, and blockchain&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:44) - The art of making whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:39) - MCP security for the AI age&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:40) - What happened to Chartreuse?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:26) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Friday Deployment:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fridaydeployment.co/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fridaydeployment.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CTO Lunches:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ctolunches.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ctolunches.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Maybe Don&#39;t AI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.maybedont.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.maybedont.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wolves Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Angels Envy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.angelsenvy.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.angelsenvy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laphroaig:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.laphroaig.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.laphroaig.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Malort:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://malort.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://malort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Willett:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Midwinter Night&#39;s Dram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Office Space:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stripe:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stripe.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stripe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Privy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.privy.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.privy.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coinbase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coinbase.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coinbase.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Venmo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://venmo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://venmo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cash App:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cash.app/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cash.app/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;JavaScript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;jQuery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jimbeam.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fernet:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernet&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fireball:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jagermeister:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.jagermeister.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://us.jagermeister.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aviation Gin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.aviationgin.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.aviationgin.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Costco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Boodles Gin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://boodlesgin.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://boodlesgin.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tanqueray:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tanqueray.com/en-row&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tanqueray.com/en-row&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Botanist Gin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thebotanist.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.thebotanist.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Kendall&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Rishi&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/aNkSBpa91ZDYFzvRTzmMRCWrYpDjk5_Z2sOA-28yCS0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tunxcwripvdbfzyxs0pyeg9a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kendall Miller and Rishi Malik about their startup Friday Deployment Spirits, and creating whiskey for developers. They discuss the art of making good whiskey, bourbon vs rye, coding in the age of AI, and much more.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(00:53) - Meet Rishi and Kendall</li><li>(03:01) - Whiskey rating and review: Friday Deployment Generative A Rye</li><li>(21:27) - Hot take: Is HTML a programming language?</li><li>(25:56) - Hot Take: Bourbon or Rye?</li><li>(27:13) - Is deploying on a Friday bad?</li><li>(37:57) - Payment systems, Web3, and blockchain</li><li>(45:44) - The art of making whiskey</li><li>(51:39) - MCP security for the AI age</li><li>(55:40) - What happened to Chartreuse?</li><li>(57:26) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Friday Deployment:&nbsp;<a href="https://fridaydeployment.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://fridaydeployment.co/</a></li><li>CTO Lunches:&nbsp;<a href="https://ctolunches.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ctolunches.com/</a></li><li>Maybe Don't AI:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maybedont.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.maybedont.ai/</a></li><li>Wolves Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/</a></li><li>Heaven Hill Distillery:&nbsp;<a href="http://heavenhilldistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://heavenhilldistillery.com/</a></li><li>Angels Envy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.angelsenvy.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.angelsenvy.com/</a></li><li>Laphroaig:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.laphroaig.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.laphroaig.com/</a></li><li>Buffalo Trace:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/</a></li><li>Malort:&nbsp;<a href="https://malort.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://malort.com/</a></li><li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Guillermo Rauch:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/rauchg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/rauchg</a></li><li>Willett:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/</a></li><li>Midwinter Night's Dram:&nbsp;<a href="https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Typescript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Brenne Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/</a></li><li>Seinfeld:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld</a></li><li>Mad Men:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men</a></li><li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li>Norlan:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li><li>Office Space:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space</a></li><li>Stripe:&nbsp;<a href="https://stripe.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stripe.com/</a></li><li>Privy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.privy.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.privy.io/</a></li><li>Coinbase:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coinbase.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.coinbase.com/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>Venmo:&nbsp;<a href="https://venmo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://venmo.com/</a></li><li>Cash App:&nbsp;<a href="https://cash.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cash.app/</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>JavaScript:&nbsp;<a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript</a></li><li>jQuery:&nbsp;<a href="https://jquery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://jquery.com/</a></li><li>Jim Beam:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jimbeam.com/</a></li><li>Fernet:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernet" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernet</a></li><li>Fireball:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fireballwhisky.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fireballwhisky.com/</a></li><li>Jagermeister:&nbsp;<a href="https://us.jagermeister.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://us.jagermeister.com/</a></li><li>Kubernetes:&nbsp;<a href="https://kubernetes.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li><li>Aviation Gin:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.aviationgin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aviationgin.com/</a></li><li>Ryan Reynolds:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds</a></li><li>Costco:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.costco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.costco.com/</a></li><li>Boodles Gin:&nbsp;<a href="https://boodlesgin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://boodlesgin.com/</a></li><li>Tanqueray:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tanqueray.com/en-row" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tanqueray.com/en-row</a></li><li>The Botanist Gin:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thebotanist.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.thebotanist.com/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Kendall</p><ul><li>LinkedIn:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Rishi</p><ul><li>LinkedIn:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller &amp; Rishi Malik</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tunxcwripvdbfzyxs0pyeg9a/kqu80vrqgcpb8bdikphg8qbm.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3533</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>200</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kendall Miller and Rishi Malik about their startup Friday Deployment Spirits, and creating whiskey for developers. They discuss the art of making good whiskey, bourbon vs rye, coding in the age of AI, and much more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:53) - Meet Rishi and Kendall&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:01) - Whiskey rating and review: Friday Deployment Generative A Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:27) - Hot take: Is HTML a programming language?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:56) - Hot Take: Bourbon or Rye?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:13) - Is deploying on a Friday bad?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(37:57) - Payment systems, Web3, and blockchain&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:44) - The art of making whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:39) - MCP security for the AI age&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:40) - What happened to Chartreuse?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:26) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Friday Deployment:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fridaydeployment.co/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fridaydeployment.co/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CTO Lunches:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ctolunches.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ctolunches.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Maybe Don&#39;t AI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.maybedont.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.maybedont.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wolves Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://heavenhilldistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Angels Envy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.angelsenvy.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.angelsenvy.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laphroaig:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.laphroaig.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.laphroaig.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Malort:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://malort.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://malort.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Willett:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Midwinter Night&#39;s Dram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brenne Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mad Men:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Office Space:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stripe:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stripe.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stripe.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Privy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.privy.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.privy.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coinbase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coinbase.com/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ifok7ajai78bmvpmtecqtj78/thumbnail-ifok7ajai78bmvpmtecqtj78.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ifok7ajai78bmvpmtecqtj78/thumbnail-ifok7ajai78bmvpmtecqtj78.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tunxcwripvdbfzyxs0pyeg9a/n67df8a64xhlxcg5erumhr7f/transcoded-01KECKDP9G078TG6BBV9VN6BHA-01KECKDP9GMZ7P5R9X0AJFVEZC_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Father&#39;s Day Drinking w/ Typecraft</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie talks with Typecraft about the chaotic joys of fatherhood, the realities of raising twins, and various dad-related hot takes. They also discuss their tech carries and conference talks, including Typecraft&#39;s Vim nerdery and Robbie’s sarcastic ode to underappreciated HTML features.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:05) - Beer selections&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:11) - Newborns and parenting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:34) - Robbie&#39;s transition to HashiCorp&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:11) - Home ownership and the volatile housing market&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:19) - Hot Take: tall socks vs ankle socks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:41) - Hot Take: New Balance vs Nike&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:29) - Hot Take: gas vs charcoal grills&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:41) - Efficient scheduling as parents&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:09) - Education costs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:24) - Hot Take: parking forward vs backward&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:13) - Hot Take: baseball vs football&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:59) - The real point of golf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - The chaotic joys of parenting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:05) - Big Sky Dev Con and other confs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:55) - Typecraft&#39;s Big Sky talk&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:26) - Robbie&#39;s Big Sky talk&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:02) - The state of AI in coding&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(58:46) - Black Mirror and Star Trek&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:00:16) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Michelob Ultra:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michelobultra.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michelobultra.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sip of Sunshine IPA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Watch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/watch/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/watch/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitcoin.org/en/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bitcoin.org/en/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Target:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.target.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;New Balance:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.newbalance.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.newbalance.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nike:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nike.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Green Egg:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://biggreenegg.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://biggreenegg.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/world/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/world/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robert Beene:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Teladoc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teladochealth.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.teladochealth.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft on Youtube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Google:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://google.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ART19:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://art19.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://art19.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gamma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://gamma.app/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://gamma.app/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Neovim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Avante:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvim&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ES6:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Anthropic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DoorDash:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.doordash.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Black Mirror:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Star Trek:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Typecraft&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/OkvvHPo2tDSuKZApOCBVmW-tkp8aV8Z_Jhb5OK7O-Po</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/o9l981jx31lk37x4dctq1e5j.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie talks with Typecraft about the chaotic joys of fatherhood, the realities of raising twins, and various dad-related hot takes. They also discuss their tech carries and conference talks, including Typecraft's Vim nerdery and Robbie’s sarcastic ode to underappreciated HTML features.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:05) - Beer selections</li><li>(03:11) - Newborns and parenting</li><li>(07:34) - Robbie's transition to HashiCorp</li><li>(12:11) - Home ownership and the volatile housing market</li><li>(15:19) - Hot Take: tall socks vs ankle socks</li><li>(16:41) - Hot Take: New Balance vs Nike</li><li>(17:29) - Hot Take: gas vs charcoal grills</li><li>(18:41) - Efficient scheduling as parents</li><li>(20:09) - Education costs</li><li>(23:24) - Hot Take: parking forward vs backward</li><li>(24:13) - Hot Take: baseball vs football</li><li>(25:59) - The real point of golf</li><li>(28:39) - The chaotic joys of parenting</li><li>(33:05) - Big Sky Dev Con and other confs</li><li>(34:55) - Typecraft's Big Sky talk</li><li>(39:26) - Robbie's Big Sky talk</li><li>(42:02) - The state of AI in coding</li><li>(58:46) - Black Mirror and Star Trek</li><li>(01:00:16) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Aaron Francis:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/aarondfrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/aarondfrancis</a></li><li>Michelob Ultra:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.michelobultra.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.michelobultra.com/</a></li><li>Sip of Sunshine IPA:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/</a></li><li>Apple Watch:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.apple.com/watch/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/watch/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li>Ruby on Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.php.net/</a></li><li>Bitcoin:&nbsp;<a href="https://bitcoin.org/en/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitcoin.org/en/</a></li><li>Target:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.target.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.target.com/</a></li><li>New Balance:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newbalance.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newbalance.com/</a></li><li>Nike:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nike.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nike.com/</a></li><li>Big Green Egg:&nbsp;<a href="https://biggreenegg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://biggreenegg.com/</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Rails World:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/world/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/world/</a></li><li>Primeagen:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li><li>Vim:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.vim.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.vim.org/</a></li><li>Robert Beene:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/</a></li><li>Teladoc:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.teladochealth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.teladochealth.com/</a></li><li>Typecraft on Youtube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev</a></li><li>Google:&nbsp;<a href="https://google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://google.com</a></li><li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openai.com</a></li><li>ART19:&nbsp;<a href="https://art19.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://art19.com/</a></li><li>Gamma:&nbsp;<a href="http://gamma.app/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gamma.app/</a></li><li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://nextjs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a></li><li>Neovim:&nbsp;<a href="https://neovim.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://neovim.io/</a></li><li>Avante:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvim</a></li><li>Claude Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code</a></li><li>Typescript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>ES6:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp</a></li><li>Anthropic:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.anthropic.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.anthropic.com</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>DoorDash:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.doordash.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.doordash.com/</a></li><li>Black Mirror:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/</a></li><li>Star Trek:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Typecraft</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/typecraft_dev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/typecraft_dev</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Father&#39;s Day Drinking w/ Typecraft</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o9l981jx31lk37x4dctq1e5j/wtyanrrqofzh28nru99cs0p2.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3686</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>199</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie talks with Typecraft about the chaotic joys of fatherhood, the realities of raising twins, and various dad-related hot takes. They also discuss their tech carries and conference talks, including Typecraft&#39;s Vim nerdery and Robbie’s sarcastic ode to underappreciated HTML features.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:05) - Beer selections&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(03:11) - Newborns and parenting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:34) - Robbie&#39;s transition to HashiCorp&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:11) - Home ownership and the volatile housing market&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:19) - Hot Take: tall socks vs ankle socks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:41) - Hot Take: New Balance vs Nike&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:29) - Hot Take: gas vs charcoal grills&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:41) - Efficient scheduling as parents&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:09) - Education costs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:24) - Hot Take: parking forward vs backward&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:13) - Hot Take: baseball vs football&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:59) - The real point of golf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - The chaotic joys of parenting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:05) - Big Sky Dev Con and other confs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:55) - Typecraft&#39;s Big Sky talk&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:26) - Robbie&#39;s Big Sky talk&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:02) - The state of AI in coding&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(58:46) - Black Mirror and Star Trek&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:00:16) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Michelob Ultra:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michelobultra.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michelobultra.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sip of Sunshine IPA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Watch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/watch/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/watch/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qh7pk56vn9unkysrf6c8ehz8/thumbnail-qh7pk56vn9unkysrf6c8ehz8.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qh7pk56vn9unkysrf6c8ehz8/thumbnail-qh7pk56vn9unkysrf6c8ehz8.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o9l981jx31lk37x4dctq1e5j/vra2bgxyahalv83f6uc13zxj/transcoded-01KECKDGFYKXXAERV984DZEZVF-01KECKDGFYH72BM3XNG75F4TXQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Will AI Kill the Joy of Coding?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck review Barrell Craft Spirits&#39; Cranky Kong, and talk about the AI boom, how senior devs are (or aren’t) using it, and what the future of software jobs might look like. They also discuss the rise of &#34;celebrity developers&#34;, job market shifts, real estate economics, and parenting twins.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:20) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release &#34;Cranky Kong&#34; Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:28) - The Taco Bell Cantina Challenge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:51) - Claude 4, Windsurf, and the AI arms race&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:50) - Will AI kill the joy of coding?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:18) - Monorepos and missing changelogs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:27) - Prompting vs programming&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:53) - UBI, real estate, and a broken system&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:48) - The evolving world of celebrity developers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:46) - OpenAI’s new device and the future of screens&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(41:49) - Parenting and newborn chaos&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(49:51) - Chuck&#39;s move and studio setup&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:22) - TV picks and recommendations&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release &#34;Cranky Kong&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rodecaster Pro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Electro-Voice RE20:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;13 Reasons Why:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Abramov:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HBO:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.max.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.max.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The White Lotus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mint Mobile:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mintmobile.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mintmobile.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple TV+:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tv.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Last of Us:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Handmaid&#39;s Tale:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Grey&#39;s Anatomy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NCIS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mark Harmon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order: SVU:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/ux3GFFUb6jkk2lX62jn58yJ4ZSu4Gvwl37PLZH4Ijmw</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/pzwkjqm299ky8xt0ugh0g4gw.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck review Barrell Craft Spirits' Cranky Kong, and talk about the AI boom, how senior devs are (or aren’t) using it, and what the future of software jobs might look like. They also discuss the rise of "celebrity developers", job market shifts, real estate economics, and parenting twins.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(01:20) - Whiskey rating &amp; review: Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release "Cranky Kong" Rye Whiskey</li><li>(07:28) - The Taco Bell Cantina Challenge</li><li>(10:51) - Claude 4, Windsurf, and the AI arms race</li><li>(13:50) - Will AI kill the joy of coding?</li><li>(16:18) - Monorepos and missing changelogs</li><li>(20:27) - Prompting vs programming</li><li>(21:53) - UBI, real estate, and a broken system</li><li>(27:48) - The evolving world of celebrity developers</li><li>(38:46) - OpenAI’s new device and the future of screens</li><li>(41:49) - Parenting and newborn chaos</li><li>(49:51) - Chuck's move and studio setup</li><li>(53:22) - TV picks and recommendations</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release "Cranky Kong" Rye Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.barrellbourbon.com/</a></li><li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Taco Bell:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tacobell.com/</a></li><li>Chick-fil-A:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chick-fil-a.com/</a></li><li>White Castle:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.whitecastle.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.whitecastle.com/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openai.com</a></li><li>Gemini:&nbsp;<a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li>Vite:&nbsp;<a href="https://vite.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vite.dev/</a></li><li>Zach Lloyd's LinkedIn post about AI:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachlloyd_anyone-else-having-a-hard-time-getting-their-activity-7333511252666662913-RK7g/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachlloyd_anyone-else-having-a-hard-time-getting-their-activity-7333511252666662913-RK7g/</a></li><li>DHH - Coding should be a vibe!:&nbsp;<a href="https://world.hey.com/dhh/coding-should-be-a-vibe-50908f49" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://world.hey.com/dhh/coding-should-be-a-vibe-50908f49</a></li><li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Starlight Tailwind:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/withastro/starlight/tree/main/examples/tailwind" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/withastro/starlight/tree/main/examples/tailwind</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com</a></li><li>Sam Altman:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/sama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/sama</a></li><li>WALL-E:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-280395a4-d5ef-4dd0-bd09-d91c31593d3d" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-280395a4-d5ef-4dd0-bd09-d91c31593d3d</a></li><li>Idiocracy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/</a></li><li>Primeagen:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a></li><li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a></li><li>Guillermo Rauch:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/rauchg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/rauchg</a></li><li>PHP:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.php.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.php.net/</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>Maserati:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.maserati.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.maserati.com/</a></li><li>Honda:&nbsp;<a href="https://automobiles.honda.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://automobiles.honda.com/</a></li><li>OpenAI's new screenless device:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/672357/openai-ai-device-sam-altman-jony-ive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theverge.com/news/672357/openai-ai-device-sam-altman-jony-ive</a></li><li>Jony Ive:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive</a></li><li>Syntax:&nbsp;<a href="https://syntax.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Rodecaster Pro:&nbsp;<a href="https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro</a></li><li>Electro-Voice RE20:&nbsp;<a href="https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/</a></li><li>13 Reasons Why:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470</a></li><li>Dan Abramov:&nbsp;<a href="https://danabra.mov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://danabra.mov/</a></li><li>HBO:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.max.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.max.com/</a></li><li>The White Lotus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus</a></li><li>Ryan Reynolds:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds</a></li><li>Mint Mobile:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mintmobile.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mintmobile.com/</a></li><li>Apple TV+:&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tv.apple.com/</a></li><li>The Last of Us:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us</a></li><li>The Handmaid's Tale:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale</a></li><li>Grey's Anatomy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/</a></li><li>NCIS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/</a></li><li>Mark Harmon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/</a></li><li>Law &amp; Order: SVU:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Will AI Kill the Joy of Coding?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pzwkjqm299ky8xt0ugh0g4gw/szekz0jpcdal98zurxx3od4s.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3654</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>198</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck review Barrell Craft Spirits&#39; Cranky Kong, and talk about the AI boom, how senior devs are (or aren’t) using it, and what the future of software jobs might look like. They also discuss the rise of &#34;celebrity developers&#34;, job market shifts, real estate economics, and parenting twins.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:20) - Whiskey rating &amp;amp; review: Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release &#34;Cranky Kong&#34; Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:28) - The Taco Bell Cantina Challenge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:51) - Claude 4, Windsurf, and the AI arms race&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:50) - Will AI kill the joy of coding?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:18) - Monorepos and missing changelogs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:27) - Prompting vs programming&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:53) - UBI, real estate, and a broken system&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:48) - The evolving world of celebrity developers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:46) - OpenAI’s new device and the future of screens&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(41:49) - Parenting and newborn chaos&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(49:51) - Chuck&#39;s move and studio setup&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:22) - TV picks and recommendations&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits Private Release &#34;Cranky Kong&#34; Rye Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chick-fil-A:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;White Castle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whitecastle.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.whitecastle.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vite:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Zach Lloyd&#39;s LinkedIn post about AI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachlloyd_anyone-else-having-a-hard-time-getting-their-activity-7333511252666662913-RK7g/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachlloyd_anyone-else-having-a-hard-time-getting-their-activity-7333511252666662913-RK7g/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DHH - Coding should be a vibe!:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://world.hey.com/dhh/coding-should-be-a-vibe-50908f49&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://world.hey.com/dhh/coding-should-be-a-vibe-50908f49&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Starlight Tailwind:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/withastro/starlight/tree/main/examples/tailwind&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/withastro/starlight/tree/main/examples/tailwind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sam Altman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/sama&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/sama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;WALL-E:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-280395a4-d5ef-4dd0-bd09-d91c31593d3d&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-280395a4-d5ef-4dd0-bd09-d91c31593d3d&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Idiocracy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;PHP:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Maserati:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.maserati.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.maserati.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Honda:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://automobiles.honda.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://automobiles.honda.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAI&#39;s new screenless device:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theverge.com/news/672357/openai-ai-device-sam-altman-jony-ive&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.theverge.com/news/672357/openai-ai-device-sam-altman-jony-ive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jony Ive:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rodecaster Pro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Electro-Voice RE20:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/re20/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;13 Reasons Why:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/80117470&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Abramov:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HBO:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.max.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.max.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The White Lotus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mint Mobile:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mintmobile.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mintmobile.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple TV+:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tv.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Last of Us:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Handmaid&#39;s Tale:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Grey&#39;s Anatomy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NCIS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mark Harmon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001319/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Law &amp;amp; Order: SVU:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203259/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pzwkjqm299ky8xt0ugh0g4gw/uabkh4lr9ik0uz5e86af14s8/transcoded-01KECKD3K77QY53E09XRPG7D3N-01KECKD3K734119AC09DCAY5ZT_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Stop Fixing Things That Aren&#39;t Broken</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about the unintended chaos of “move fast and break things” in both software and startups. From Riverside glitches to Tesla’s overengineered wipers, they explore how updates can derail otherwise stable experiences. They unpack the economics of getting laid off, the pressure to build a personal brand in tech, and the strange fate of dev tools. Plus, Robbie shares his latest app ideas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:27) - Whiskey rating and review: Old Grand-Dad 16 Year Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:27) - When updates break what worked&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:21) - Are devs prioritizing personal brands?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:13) - The strange economics of getting laid off&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - Is GitLab trash?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:25) - Robbie’s ADHD app and vibe coding plans&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:05) - Debt, 401k, and emergency funds&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:30) - Prepping for Big Sky Dev Con&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:26) - UPS shipping woes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:10) - React Miami and difficulties taking a podcast on the road&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:58) - Whiskey + Girl Scout cookies (and other pairings)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:05) - Should open source have a franchise model?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:28) - Work, paternity leave, and the IBM acquisition&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:15) - Tesla shopping for a family of five&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(61:08) - Movies and TV&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Old Grand-Dad:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wild Turkey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Riverside:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://riverside.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Arc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://arc.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shark Tank:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Deno:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://deno.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Node:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nodejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitLab:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gitlab.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gitlab.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bitbucket:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitbucket.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bitbucket.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fresca:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Carson Gross:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ruby:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;UPS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ups.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ups.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mux.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mux.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Terminal Coffee:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;David Cramer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Girl Scouts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.girlscouts.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.girlscouts.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Carlyle House:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Library:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mwlpdx.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://mwlpdx.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gumroad:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gumroad.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gumroad.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Supabase:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;McDonald&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mcdonalds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Model X:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/modelx&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/modelx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/elonmusk&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/elonmusk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rivian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rivian.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rivian.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why Women Kill:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Women_Kill&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Women_Kill&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lucy Liu:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;American Psycho:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Paramount Plus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paramountplus.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.paramountplus.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Yellowstone:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(American_TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;1883:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Faith Hill:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hill&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hill&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tim McGraw:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McGraw&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McGraw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/qLb1hLzhW5AG-90ymupuL4u_5RYNPtWQcdniPkZrfi8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lf3o6axexzxl33f528wyh1q2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about the unintended chaos of “move fast and break things” in both software and startups. From Riverside glitches to Tesla’s overengineered wipers, they explore how updates can derail otherwise stable experiences. They unpack the economics of getting laid off, the pressure to build a personal brand in tech, and the strange fate of dev tools. Plus, Robbie shares his latest app ideas.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:27) - Whiskey rating and review: Old Grand-Dad 16 Year Straight Bourbon Whiskey</li><li>(13:27) - When updates break what worked</li><li>(20:21) - Are devs prioritizing personal brands?</li><li>(23:13) - The strange economics of getting laid off</li><li>(28:39) - Is GitLab trash?</li><li>(30:25) - Robbie’s ADHD app and vibe coding plans</li><li>(34:05) - Debt, 401k, and emergency funds</li><li>(35:30) - Prepping for Big Sky Dev Con</li><li>(38:26) - UPS shipping woes</li><li>(44:10) - React Miami and difficulties taking a podcast on the road</li><li>(48:58) - Whiskey + Girl Scout cookies (and other pairings)</li><li>(54:05) - Should open source have a franchise model?</li><li>(55:28) - Work, paternity leave, and the IBM acquisition</li><li>(57:15) - Tesla shopping for a family of five</li><li>(61:08) - Movies and TV</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Old Grand-Dad:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon</a></li><li>Wild Turkey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/</a></li><li>Riverside:&nbsp;<a href="https://riverside.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://riverside.fm/</a></li><li>Tesla:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tesla.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tesla.com/</a></li><li>Arc:&nbsp;<a href="https://arc.net/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://arc.net/</a></li><li>Silicon Valley:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)</a></li><li>Chrome:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/chrome/</a></li><li>Shark Tank:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank</a></li><li>GitHub:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com</a></li><li>Microsoft:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a></li><li>Typescript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Rust:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a></li><li>VS Code:&nbsp;<a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a></li><li>OpenAI:&nbsp;<a href="https://openai.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openai.com</a></li><li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>Copilot:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li>Deno:&nbsp;<a href="https://deno.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://deno.com/</a></li><li>Node:&nbsp;<a href="https://nodejs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nodejs.org/</a></li><li>GitLab:&nbsp;<a href="https://gitlab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/</a></li><li>Bitbucket:&nbsp;<a href="https://bitbucket.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/</a></li><li>Fresca:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda</a></li><li>Shepherd:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a></li><li>Warp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li>Adam Argyle:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink/</a></li><li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a></li><li>Carson Gross:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/htmx_org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/htmx_org/</a></li><li>Ruby:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ruby-lang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ruby-lang.org/</a></li><li>UPS:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ups.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ups.com</a></li><li>Amazon:&nbsp;<a href="https://amazon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Typecraft:&nbsp;<a href="https://typecraft.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a></li><li>Jason Lengstorf:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a></li><li>Web Dev Challenge:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M</a></li><li>Mux:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mux.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mux.com/</a></li><li>Aaron Francis:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/aarondfrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/aarondfrancis</a></li><li>Terminal Coffee:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.terminal.shop/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.terminal.shop/</a></li><li>Syntax:&nbsp;<a href="https://syntax.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a></li><li>Sentry:&nbsp;<a href="https://sentry.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://Sentry.io/</a></li><li>David Cramer:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/zeeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/zeeg</a></li><li>Girl Scouts:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.girlscouts.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.girlscouts.org/</a></li><li>Carlyle House:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>Whiskey Library:&nbsp;<a href="https://mwlpdx.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mwlpdx.com/</a></li><li>Jack Rose:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/</a></li><li>Gumroad:&nbsp;<a href="https://gumroad.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gumroad.com</a></li><li>Supabase:&nbsp;<a href="https://supabase.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://supabase.com/</a></li><li>McDonald's:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mcdonalds.com/</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li>Model X:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tesla.com/modelx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tesla.com/modelx</a></li><li>Elon Musk:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/elonmusk</a></li><li>Rivian:&nbsp;<a href="https://rivian.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rivian.com/</a></li><li>Why Women Kill:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Women_Kill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Women_Kill</a></li><li>Lucy Liu:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu</a></li><li>American Psycho:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)</a></li><li>Paramount Plus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.paramountplus.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.paramountplus.com/</a></li><li>Yellowstone:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(American_TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_(American_TV_series)</a></li><li>1883:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_(TV_series)</a></li><li>Faith Hill:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hill" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hill</a></li><li>Tim McGraw:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McGraw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McGraw</a></li><li>Game of Thrones:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Stop Fixing Things That Aren&#39;t Broken</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lf3o6axexzxl33f528wyh1q2/r4rsdttcsphyvtq4r8znsupn.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3954</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>197</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about the unintended chaos of “move fast and break things” in both software and startups. From Riverside glitches to Tesla’s overengineered wipers, they explore how updates can derail otherwise stable experiences. They unpack the economics of getting laid off, the pressure to build a personal brand in tech, and the strange fate of dev tools. Plus, Robbie shares his latest app ideas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:27) - Whiskey rating and review: Old Grand-Dad 16 Year Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:27) - When updates break what worked&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:21) - Are devs prioritizing personal brands?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:13) - The strange economics of getting laid off&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:39) - Is GitLab trash?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:25) - Robbie’s ADHD app and vibe coding plans&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:05) - Debt, 401k, and emergency funds&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:30) - Prepping for Big Sky Dev Con&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:26) - UPS shipping woes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:10) - React Miami and difficulties taking a podcast on the road&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:58) - Whiskey + Girl Scout cookies (and other pairings)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:05) - Should open source have a franchise model?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:28) - Work, paternity leave, and the IBM acquisition&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(57:15) - Tesla shopping for a family of five&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(61:08) - Movies and TV&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Old Grand-Dad:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.beamdistilling.com/our-brands/old-grand-dad-bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wild Turkey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Riverside:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://riverside.fm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tesla:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Arc:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://arc.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chrome:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.google.com/chrome/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shark Tank:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Microsoft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rust:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;VS Code:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Deno:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://deno.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Node:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nodejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitLab:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gitlab.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gitlab.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bitbucket:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitbucket.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bitbucket.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fresca:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Shepherd:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Carson Gross:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ruby:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;UPS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ups.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ups.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Amazon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jason Lengstorf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mux:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mux.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mux.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Terminal Coffee:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;David Cramer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Girl Scouts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.girlscouts.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.girlscouts.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Carlyle House:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_House&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Library:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mwlpdx.com/&#34; 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They also sip an Evan Williams Single Barrel, debate inbox zero, and discuss Marc’s adventures in coffee roasting and pilot training.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:45) - Whiskey review and rating: Evan Williams Single Barrel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(09:03) - Hot Take: Inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:04) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:59) - Hot Take: Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:27) - Nested ternaries?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:58) - Real code vs ideal code&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:43) - Why work/life balance matters&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:28) - Why Marc chose Vue over React&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:19) - Ryan Reynolds speaking at Post/Con&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(32:40) - Render Atlanta and upcoming conferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:48) - Marc&#39;s connection to Mexico&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:54) - Discussing different foods&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(37:09) - Marc&#39;s inbox zero strategy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:26) - Learning to fly&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:06) - Roasting coffee as a hobby&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:13) - Personal branding and standing out&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:19) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams Single Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrel&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nuxt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Double Double Oaked Woodford:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;jQuery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Post Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://postcon.postman.com/&#34; 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target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://marc.dev/blog/inbox-zero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Superhuman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://superhuman.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://superhuman.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vite:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Terminal Coffee:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Marc&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://marc.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://marc.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/themarcba&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/themarcba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/ep1jMGFwK6mYkReKxKye_a65xDa7mLKRIsMwcUXVD3c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qf3kma8nxhy615uwibxpqvi0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Marc Backes about Vue vs. React, work-life balance, and the realities of messy codebases. 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Myth of Perfect Code w/ Marc Backes</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qf3kma8nxhy615uwibxpqvi0/c7s0t05z2tfcdz6q3geekhmx.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3221</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>196</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Marc Backes about Vue vs. React, work-life balance, and the realities of messy codebases. They also sip an Evan Williams Single Barrel, debate inbox zero, and discuss Marc’s adventures in coffee roasting and pilot training.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:45) - Whiskey review and rating: Evan Williams Single Barrel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(09:03) - Hot Take: Inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:04) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(10:59) - Hot Take: Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:27) - Nested ternaries?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:58) - Real code vs ideal code&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:43) - Why work/life balance matters&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:28) - Why Marc chose Vue over React&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:19) - Ryan Reynolds speaking at Post/Con&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(32:40) - Render Atlanta and upcoming conferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:48) - Marc&#39;s connection to Mexico&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:54) - Discussing different foods&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(37:09) - Marc&#39;s inbox zero strategy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:26) - Learning to fly&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:06) - Roasting coffee as a hobby&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:13) - Personal branding and standing out&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:19) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams Single Barrel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrel&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://evanwilliams.com/single-barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nuxt:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nintendo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Double Double Oaked Woodford:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;jQuery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Post Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://postcon.postman.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://postcon.postman.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aviation Gin:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.aviationgin.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.aviationgin.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mint Mobile:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mintmobile.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mintmobile.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Render Conf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Marc Backes - Achieving Inbox Zero:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://marc.dev/blog/inbox-zero&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://marc.dev/blog/inbox-zero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Superhuman:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://superhuman.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://superhuman.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vite:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Terminal Coffee:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; 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They explore the evolution of Next.js, the importance of developer momentum, and how to break into tech in today’s landscape.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:11) - Rum rating and review: Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:25) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:54) - Bree&#39;s React Miami talk: Styles &amp;amp; SASSy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:16) - Has Tailwind made CSS too easy?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:47) - Hot Take: Why you don&#39;t need to learn CSS or PHP before jumping into Tailwind or Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:34) - Bree&#39;s journey into tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:49) - The strengths and weaknesses of React&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:29) - Where does React end and Next.js begin?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:24) - Why Astro is great&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:04) - Using the tools that work for you&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:38) - Life at HubSpot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:45) - Bree&#39;s favorite food spots&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:48) - Theme parks and tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:10) - Parenting in the internet age&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - If not in tech, what would Bree do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:52) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bacardi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bacardi.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bacardi.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Flor De Cana 18:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flordecana.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.flordecana.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Captain Morgan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.captainmorgan.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.captainmorgan.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Emotion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emotion.sh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/Uy2WXj3NhpMFLU4jcIYWow2RTFRujGJ20VGSq0KJXLI</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ay8ofupbesr03zzj0q2i7yjq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, live from React Miami, Chuck, and special guest co-host Aaron Francis, talk with Bree Hall about React styling strategies, Tailwind CSS, and whether you should learn fundamentals before frameworks (spoiler: it depends). They explore the evolution of Next.js, the importance of developer momentum, and how to break into tech in today’s landscape.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:11) - Rum rating and review: Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs</li><li>(07:25) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS</li><li>(12:54) - Bree's React Miami talk: Styles &amp; SASSy</li><li>(15:16) - Has Tailwind made CSS too easy?</li><li>(17:47) - Hot Take: Why you don't need to learn CSS or PHP before jumping into Tailwind or Laravel</li><li>(23:34) - Bree's journey into tech</li><li>(26:49) - The strengths and weaknesses of React</li><li>(27:29) - Where does React end and Next.js begin?</li><li>(31:24) - Why Astro is great</li><li>(33:04) - Using the tools that work for you</li><li>(36:38) - Life at HubSpot</li><li>(39:45) - Bree's favorite food spots</li><li>(44:48) - Theme parks and tech</li><li>(47:10) - Parenting in the internet age</li><li>(52:06) - If not in tech, what would Bree do instead?</li><li>(53:52) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs:&nbsp;<a href="https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Kent C. 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They explore the evolution of Next.js, the importance of developer momentum, and how to break into tech in today’s landscape.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:11) - Rum rating and review: Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(07:25) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:54) - Bree&#39;s React Miami talk: Styles &amp;amp; SASSy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:16) - Has Tailwind made CSS too easy?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:47) - Hot Take: Why you don&#39;t need to learn CSS or PHP before jumping into Tailwind or Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:34) - Bree&#39;s journey into tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:49) - The strengths and weaknesses of React&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:29) - Where does React end and Next.js begin?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(31:24) - Why Astro is great&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:04) - Using the tools that work for you&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:38) - Life at HubSpot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:45) - Bree&#39;s favorite food spots&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:48) - Theme parks and tech&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:10) - Parenting in the internet age&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - If not in tech, what would Bree do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:52) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Roble Viejo Extra Anejo 8yrs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ronroble.com/nuestros-rones/extra-anejo/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bacardi:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bacardi.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bacardi.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Flor De Cana 18:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flordecana.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.flordecana.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Captain Morgan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.captainmorgan.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.captainmorgan.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Emotion:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emotion.sh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emotion.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vanilla Extract:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanilla-extract.style/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vanilla-extract.style/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;SQLite:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bootstrap:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://getbootstrap.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;jQuery:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Photoshop:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Angular:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://angular.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vite:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Neon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neon.tech/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neon.tech/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;4 hours to build an e-commerce app — Web Dev Challenge S1E9:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpQQxD8vc4&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpQQxD8vc4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HubSpot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hubspot.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hubspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;GitHub:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ichi Koroshi Ramen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/ichikoroshi/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/ichikoroshi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Disney World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lego:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lego.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lego.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Boston Dynamics:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bostondynamics.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bostondynamics.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Universal:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.universalorlando.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.universalorlando.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Minecraft:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Screencasting.com:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Bree&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bytesofbree.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bytesofbree.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/bytesofbree&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/bytesofbree&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/hj86wtg08nt8qbfzrwdpzsfs/thumbnail-hj86wtg08nt8qbfzrwdpzsfs.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/hj86wtg08nt8qbfzrwdpzsfs/thumbnail-hj86wtg08nt8qbfzrwdpzsfs.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ay8ofupbesr03zzj0q2i7yjq/nzlsh8fmzigq9oy0695bkmg8/transcoded-01KECKDQ9JZ07WJTC6E9ANAV69-01KECKDQ9J5SKEQYA6WZ8MJ5CP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Static, Dynamic, Generative: What’s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and special guest co-host Aaron Francis talk with Guillermo Rauch live from React Miami. From early days at Zeit to founding Vercel and launching Next.js, Guillermo shares stories of scaling infrastructure, creating developer-centric products, and navigating startup challenges. They dive into how AI is transforming the web, why thoughtful product expansion matters, and the frameworks guiding Vercel’s future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:54) - Rum review and rating: Fleur de Caña 18&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:31) - Every company is now a tech company&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:35) - The early days from Zeit to Vercel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:03) - Vercel&#39;s approach to cybersecurity&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:53) - How Vercel decides what features and products to pursue&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:32) - Wins, misses, and wild ideas&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:51) - What drives Guillermo today&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:00) - Growing up in Argentina&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:05) - Boca or River?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:21) - Guillermo’s surprising Laravel take&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:02:32) - If not tech, what would Guillermo do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:06:50) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fleur de Caña 18:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flordecana.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.flordecana.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Socket:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://socket.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;v0:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://v0.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://v0.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twilio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twilio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twilio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Docusign:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docusign.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.docusign.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Uber:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.uber.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Airbnb:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.airbnb.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Washio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washio_(company)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washio_(company)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Jetsons:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lars Grammel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/lgrammel&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/lgrammel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jared Palmer:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jaredpalmer&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jaredpalmer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;AI SDK:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ai-sdk.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ai-sdk.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pokemon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pokemon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.pokemon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Game Boy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Boca Juniors:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;River Plate:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cariverplate.com.ar/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cariverplate.com.ar/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Codex CLI:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11096431-openai-codex-cli-getting-started&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11096431-openai-codex-cli-getting-started&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Waymo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://waymo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://waymo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Node:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nodejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bun:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bun.sh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Deno:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://deno.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Balseiro Institute:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balseiro_Institute&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balseiro_Institute&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Grand Theft Auto:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Call of Duty:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Guillermo&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rauchg.com/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/R3gddk44LQxn-beRM-IQCOIIKfETLxKoU62XhLLKNwo</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vzehxd4qg5odw4qfarw9quqz.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Chuck and special guest co-host Aaron Francis talk with Guillermo Rauch live from React Miami. From early days at Zeit to founding Vercel and launching Next.js, Guillermo shares stories of scaling infrastructure, creating developer-centric products, and navigating startup challenges. They dive into how AI is transforming the web, why thoughtful product expansion matters, and the frameworks guiding Vercel’s future.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:54) - Rum review and rating: Fleur de Caña 18</li><li>(04:31) - Every company is now a tech company</li><li>(11:35) - The early days from Zeit to Vercel</li><li>(19:03) - Vercel's approach to cybersecurity</li><li>(23:53) - How Vercel decides what features and products to pursue</li><li>(29:32) - Wins, misses, and wild ideas</li><li>(45:51) - What drives Guillermo today</li><li>(50:00) - Growing up in Argentina</li><li>(52:05) - Boca or River?</li><li>(54:21) - Guillermo’s surprising Laravel take</li><li>(01:02:32) - If not tech, what would Guillermo do instead?</li><li>(01:06:50) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Fleur de Caña 18:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.flordecana.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.flordecana.com/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Socket:&nbsp;<a href="https://socket.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://socket.io/</a></li><li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="http://nextjs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://nextjs.org/</a></li><li>Django:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>WordPress:&nbsp;<a href="https://wordpress.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wordpress.org</a></li><li>Kubernetes:&nbsp;<a href="https://kubernetes.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kubernetes.io/</a></li><li>v0:&nbsp;<a href="https://v0.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://v0.dev/</a></li><li>Twilio:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.twilio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.twilio.com/</a></li><li>Docusign:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.docusign.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.docusign.com/</a></li><li>Jeff Bezos:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos</a></li><li>Uber:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.uber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.uber.com/</a></li><li>Airbnb:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.airbnb.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.airbnb.com/</a></li><li>Washio:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washio_(company)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washio_(company)</a></li><li>The Jetsons:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons</a></li><li>Lars Grammel:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/lgrammel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/lgrammel</a></li><li>Jared Palmer:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/jaredpalmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/jaredpalmer</a></li><li>AI SDK:&nbsp;<a href="https://ai-sdk.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ai-sdk.dev/</a></li><li>Pokemon:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.pokemon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.pokemon.com/</a></li><li>Game Boy:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy</a></li><li>Boca Juniors:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/</a></li><li>River Plate:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cariverplate.com.ar/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cariverplate.com.ar/</a></li><li>Taylor Otwell:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/taylorotwell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/taylorotwell</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>Codex CLI:&nbsp;<a href="https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11096431-openai-codex-cli-getting-started" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://help.openai.com/en/articles/11096431-openai-codex-cli-getting-started</a></li><li>Waymo:&nbsp;<a href="https://waymo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://waymo.com/</a></li><li>Node:&nbsp;<a href="https://nodejs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nodejs.org/</a></li><li>Bun:&nbsp;<a href="https://bun.sh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bun.sh/</a></li><li>Deno:&nbsp;<a href="https://deno.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://deno.com/</a></li><li>Dax:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a></li><li>Balseiro Institute:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balseiro_Institute" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balseiro_Institute</a></li><li>Grand Theft Auto:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto</a></li><li>Call of Duty:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Guillermo</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://rauchg.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rauchg.com/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/rauchg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/rauchg</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Static, Dynamic, Generative: What’s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vzehxd4qg5odw4qfarw9quqz/pkwoov23lqkaacwwem4ilaek.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4142</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>194</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and special guest co-host Aaron Francis talk with Guillermo Rauch live from React Miami. From early days at Zeit to founding Vercel and launching Next.js, Guillermo shares stories of scaling infrastructure, creating developer-centric products, and navigating startup challenges. They dive into how AI is transforming the web, why thoughtful product expansion matters, and the frameworks guiding Vercel’s future.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:54) - Rum review and rating: Fleur de Caña 18&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:31) - Every company is now a tech company&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:35) - The early days from Zeit to Vercel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:03) - Vercel&#39;s approach to cybersecurity&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:53) - How Vercel decides what features and products to pursue&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:32) - Wins, misses, and wild ideas&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(45:51) - What drives Guillermo today&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:00) - Growing up in Argentina&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:05) - Boca or River?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:21) - Guillermo’s surprising Laravel take&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:02:32) - If not tech, what would Guillermo do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(01:06:50) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fleur de Caña 18:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flordecana.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.flordecana.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Socket:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://socket.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;http://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;WordPress:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kubernetes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kubernetes.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;v0:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://v0.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://v0.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twilio:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twilio.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twilio.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Docusign:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docusign.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.docusign.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Uber:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com/&#34; 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They explore the evolving challenges of web performance, why genuine research skills still matter in an AI-driven world, and how developers can stay curious and resilient in a fast-moving industry. Henri shares insights from his React Miami talk, his passion for performance advocacy, and why literacy—both digital and physical—matters more than ever.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:54) - Meet Henri Helvetica&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(05:36) - Rum review and rating: Rhum Barbancourt 15&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:34) - Why the best JS framework is the one you like&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:38) - What makes a good rum?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:33) - Have performance and accessibility been left behind?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:32) - Where Henri’s working now—and how he’s pushing for better performance&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - Hot Take: Why modern dev learning paths are hurting growth&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:43) - Henri’s advice for junior devs who want to master performance&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:05) - How to use AI without sabotaging your future learning&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:36) - Henri&#39;s passion for running and exercise&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:19) - Building and growing Henri&#39;s dev running community&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:27) - If not tech, what would Henri do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:26) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rhum Barbancourt 15:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barbancourt.com/&#34; 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Henri shares insights from his React Miami talk, his passion for performance advocacy, and why literacy—both digital and physical—matters more than ever.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:54) - Meet Henri Helvetica&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(05:36) - Rum review and rating: Rhum Barbancourt 15&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:34) - Why the best JS framework is the one you like&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:38) - What makes a good rum?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:33) - Have performance and accessibility been left behind?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:32) - Where Henri’s working now—and how he’s pushing for better performance&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(26:47) - Hot Take: Why modern dev learning paths are hurting growth&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:43) - Henri’s advice for junior devs who want to master performance&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(39:05) - How to use AI without sabotaging your future learning&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:36) - Henri&#39;s passion for running and exercise&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:19) - Building and growing Henri&#39;s dev running community&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:27) - If not tech, what would Henri do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(55:26) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rhum Barbancourt 15:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barbancourt.com/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://c25k.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Henri&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/henrihelvetica&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/henrihelvetica&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/w2mogf85qtathy2cgutivrly/thumbnail-w2mogf85qtathy2cgutivrly.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/w2mogf85qtathy2cgutivrly/thumbnail-w2mogf85qtathy2cgutivrly.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yq1847gcdg5cacicvmrpn8v8/bo4lfl1rho3d72s6cyjub8lt/transcoded-01KECKDKA8XSM7E6QP7AAHXXZ7-01KECKDKA8558GMKH0YH2X23DD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Are Frameworks Still Worth the Tradeoffs? w/ Adam Rackis</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck talks with Adam Rackis live from React Miami. Along with special guest-host Aaron Francis, they dig into React Server Components, the quirks of modern JavaScript frameworks, and why TanStack might be the future. Sipping an Appleton Estate Rum, they swap hot takes, get candid about developer trends, tech philosophies, and share some unexpected guilty pleasures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:37) - Rum tasting and review: Appleton Estate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:27) - Hot Take: Why Adam is cooling off on React Server Components&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:56) - What makes TanStack the most exciting tool in frontend?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:52) - Are we still chasing SSR for the right reasons?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:26) - Comparing frameworks: Laravel, Next.js, Redwood &amp;amp; more&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:34) - Should you pay for Auth or build it yourself?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:13) - Why does the JS community resist “batteries-included” frameworks?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:54) - A look at Adam’s React Miami talk: From PHP to RSC&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:45) - Hot Take: classes vs hooks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:31) - Adam’s military background&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:08) - Milestones: Spotify, marriage, and careers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:56) - Has Disney ruined Star Wars?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:17) - Guilty pleasures: Jackass, Fast &amp;amp; Furious, and more&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:29) - If not tech, what would Adam do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:05) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Appleton Estate Rum:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://appletonestate.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://appletonestate.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://spotify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://spotify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Riot Games:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.riotgames.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.riotgames.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ron Zacapa 23:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zacaparum.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zacaparum.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Postgres:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Disney:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.disney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://backbonejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Air Force Academy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usafa.edu/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.usafa.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starwars.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Mandalorian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fast &amp;amp; Furious:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jackass:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel Cloud:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cloud.laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cloud.laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TanStack Router:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/router/latest&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/router/latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Screencasting.com:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Adam&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adamrackis.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adamrackis.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/AdamRackis&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/uNFMoQRJjOqwOTBtyFOvO_EEz43TCIPGjqREMrzIfVg</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/o474e1txcqn1fm3urrf2rbzs.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Chuck talks with Adam Rackis live from React Miami. Along with special guest-host Aaron Francis, they dig into React Server Components, the quirks of modern JavaScript frameworks, and why TanStack might be the future. Sipping an Appleton Estate Rum, they swap hot takes, get candid about developer trends, tech philosophies, and share some unexpected guilty pleasures.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:37) - Rum tasting and review: Appleton Estate</li><li>(11:27) - Hot Take: Why Adam is cooling off on React Server Components</li><li>(14:56) - What makes TanStack the most exciting tool in frontend?</li><li>(16:52) - Are we still chasing SSR for the right reasons?</li><li>(21:26) - Comparing frameworks: Laravel, Next.js, Redwood &amp; more</li><li>(24:34) - Should you pay for Auth or build it yourself?</li><li>(25:13) - Why does the JS community resist “batteries-included” frameworks?</li><li>(27:54) - A look at Adam’s React Miami talk: From PHP to RSC</li><li>(30:45) - Hot Take: classes vs hooks</li><li>(33:31) - Adam’s military background</li><li>(35:08) - Milestones: Spotify, marriage, and careers</li><li>(36:56) - Has Disney ruined Star Wars?</li><li>(38:17) - Guilty pleasures: Jackass, Fast &amp; Furious, and more</li><li>(43:29) - If not tech, what would Adam do instead?</li><li>(44:05) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Appleton Estate Rum:&nbsp;<a href="https://appletonestate.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://appletonestate.com/</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://spotify.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://spotify.com/</a></li><li>Riot Games:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.riotgames.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.riotgames.com/</a></li><li>Ron Zacapa 23:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.zacaparum.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.zacaparum.com/</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>Postgres:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.postgresql.org/</a></li><li>Ken Wheeler:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a></li><li>Disney:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.disney.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.disney.com/</a></li><li>Vercel:&nbsp;<a href="https://vercel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a></li><li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://nextjs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li>Django:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a></li><li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li>TanStack:&nbsp;<a href="https://tanstack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tanstack.com/</a></li><li>Remix:&nbsp;<a href="https://remix.run/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://remix.run/</a></li><li>Svelte:&nbsp;<a href="https://svelte.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://svelte.dev/</a></li><li>HTMX:&nbsp;<a href="https://htmx.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a></li><li>Vue:&nbsp;<a href="https://vuejs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vuejs.org/</a></li><li>Dan Abramov:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/gaearon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/gaearon</a></li><li>Inertia:&nbsp;<a href="https://inertiajs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://inertiajs.com/</a></li><li>Sam Selikoff:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/samselikoff" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/samselikoff</a></li><li>Ryan Florence:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/ryanflorence" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/ryanflorence</a></li><li>Big Sky Dev Con:&nbsp;<a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a></li><li>Drizzle:&nbsp;<a href="https://orm.drizzle.team/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://orm.drizzle.team/</a></li><li>RedwoodJS:&nbsp;<a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://redwoodjs.com/</a></li><li>Tom Preston-Werner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/mojombo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/mojombo</a></li><li>Clerk:&nbsp;<a href="https://clerk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://clerk.com/</a></li><li>Auth0:&nbsp;<a href="https://auth0.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://auth0.com/</a></li><li>NextAuth.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://next-auth.js.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://next-auth.js.org/</a></li><li>Better-Auth:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.better-auth.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.better-auth.com/</a></li><li>OpenAuth:&nbsp;<a href="https://openauth.js.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openauth.js.org/</a></li><li>Prisma:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.prisma.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.prisma.io/</a></li><li>WorkOS:&nbsp;<a href="https://workos.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://workos.com/</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>Backbonejs:&nbsp;<a href="https://backbonejs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://backbonejs.org/</a></li><li>Air Force Academy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.usafa.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.usafa.edu/</a></li><li>Star Wars:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.starwars.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.starwars.com/</a></li><li>The Mandalorian:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian</a></li><li>Fast &amp; Furious:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious</a></li><li>Jackass:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)</a></li><li>Laravel Cloud:&nbsp;<a href="https://cloud.laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cloud.laravel.com/</a></li><li>TanStack Router:&nbsp;<a href="https://tanstack.com/router/latest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tanstack.com/router/latest</a></li><li>Screencasting.com:&nbsp;<a href="https://screencasting.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://screencasting.com/</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Adam</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://adamrackis.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://adamrackis.dev/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/AdamRackis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/AdamRackis</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Are Frameworks Still Worth the Tradeoffs? w/ Adam Rackis</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o474e1txcqn1fm3urrf2rbzs/qjrpqt37mh25yfhh7c2emb0v.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2722</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>192</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck talks with Adam Rackis live from React Miami. Along with special guest-host Aaron Francis, they dig into React Server Components, the quirks of modern JavaScript frameworks, and why TanStack might be the future. Sipping an Appleton Estate Rum, they swap hot takes, get candid about developer trends, tech philosophies, and share some unexpected guilty pleasures.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:37) - Rum tasting and review: Appleton Estate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(11:27) - Hot Take: Why Adam is cooling off on React Server Components&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(14:56) - What makes TanStack the most exciting tool in frontend?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(16:52) - Are we still chasing SSR for the right reasons?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(21:26) - Comparing frameworks: Laravel, Next.js, Redwood &amp;amp; more&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:34) - Should you pay for Auth or build it yourself?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:13) - Why does the JS community resist “batteries-included” frameworks?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:54) - A look at Adam’s React Miami talk: From PHP to RSC&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:45) - Hot Take: classes vs hooks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:31) - Adam’s military background&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:08) - Milestones: Spotify, marriage, and careers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:56) - Has Disney ruined Star Wars?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:17) - Guilty pleasures: Jackass, Fast &amp;amp; Furious, and more&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(43:29) - If not tech, what would Adam do instead?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:05) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Appleton Estate Rum:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://appletonestate.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://appletonestate.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://spotify.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://spotify.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Riot Games:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.riotgames.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.riotgames.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ron Zacapa 23:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zacaparum.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zacaparum.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Postgres:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Disney:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.disney.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vercel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Django:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TanStack:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://remix.run/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Svelte:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HTMX:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vue:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Abramov:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/gaearon&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/gaearon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Inertia:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://inertiajs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://inertiajs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sam Selikoff:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/samselikoff&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/samselikoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Florence:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ryanflorence&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ryanflorence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Drizzle:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://orm.drizzle.team/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://orm.drizzle.team/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tom Preston-Werner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mojombo&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mojombo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Clerk:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://clerk.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://clerk.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Auth0:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://auth0.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://auth0.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NextAuth.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://next-auth.js.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://next-auth.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Better-Auth:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.better-auth.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.better-auth.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;OpenAuth:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openauth.js.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openauth.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Prisma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.prisma.io/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;WorkOS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://workos.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://workos.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Backbonejs:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://backbonejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Air Force Academy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usafa.edu/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.usafa.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Star Wars:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starwars.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Mandalorian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Fast &amp;amp; Furious:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_%26_Furious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jackass:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_(franchise)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel Cloud:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cloud.laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cloud.laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;TanStack Router:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/router/latest&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/router/latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Screencasting.com:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Adam&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adamrackis.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adamrackis.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/AdamRackis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/AdamRackis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/zfwt7x16gtls0mzekxa7rmdu/thumbnail-zfwt7x16gtls0mzekxa7rmdu.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/zfwt7x16gtls0mzekxa7rmdu/thumbnail-zfwt7x16gtls0mzekxa7rmdu.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/o474e1txcqn1fm3urrf2rbzs/jdg28yzjwn364s9y84z3muji/transcoded-01KECKCPWKMCSC6D2H4DG31VMA-01KECKCPWK0DTHNA6B9HVET340_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/o474e1txcqn1fm3urrf2rbzs.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>WTF is MCP? w/ David Cramer</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with David Cramer about MCP—microservices for language models—and why it might be the future of AI tooling. They dig into the state of AI agents, developer efficiency, and why Codegen isn’t killing jobs anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:47) - Whiskey review and rating&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:12) - Hot Take: Syntax.fm vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:06) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:27) - Hot Take: Taco Bell vs Del Taco&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:36) - What exactly is &#34;MCP&#34;?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:55) - Can you leverage AI to build SaaS for you?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:21) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:27) - Rum and snacks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:12) - Chuck is moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:18) - David&#39;s Sim racing rig&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:33) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Woodford Reserve Double Double Oaked:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;High West:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highwest.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Python:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laracon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;37signals:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://37signals.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://37signals.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Del Taco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deltaco.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://deltaco.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chick-fil-A:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In-N-Out:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.in-n-out.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron Francis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Codegen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codegen.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codegen.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Figma:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Assassin&#39;s Creed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hemsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NVidia:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Porsche: porsche.com&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with David&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cra.mr/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cra.mr/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/zeeg&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/zeeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/15ydSx-_rValsOjmTO_nymA0ElavxYmgsWokI6pUrok</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/de3o8qo256h3vcluoyieh8ic.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with David Cramer about MCP—microservices for language models—and why it might be the future of AI tooling. They dig into the state of AI agents, developer efficiency, and why Codegen isn’t killing jobs anytime soon.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:47) - Whiskey review and rating</li><li>(17:12) - Hot Take: Syntax.fm vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot?</li><li>(18:06) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel</li><li>(20:27) - Hot Take: Taco Bell vs Del Taco</li><li>(22:36) - What exactly is "MCP"?</li><li>(29:55) - Can you leverage AI to build SaaS for you?</li><li>(38:21) - React Miami</li><li>(40:27) - Rum and snacks</li><li>(47:12) - Chuck is moving to Italy</li><li>(50:18) - David's Sim racing rig</li><li>(54:33) - Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Woodford Reserve Double Double Oaked:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/</a></li><li>Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye</a></li><li>High West:&nbsp;<a href="https://highwest.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://highwest.com/</a></li><li>Norlan:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li><li>Syntax:&nbsp;<a href="https://syntax.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a></li><li>Sentry:&nbsp;<a href="https://sentry.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sentry.io</a></li><li>Rails:&nbsp;<a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a></li><li>Tailwind CSS:&nbsp;<a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a></li><li>Typescript:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>Python:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.python.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/</a></li><li>DHH:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/dhh/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a></li><li>Laracon:&nbsp;<a href="https://laracon.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laracon.us/</a></li><li>37signals:&nbsp;<a href="https://37signals.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://37signals.com/</a></li><li>Taco Bell:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tacobell.com/</a></li><li>Del Taco:&nbsp;<a href="https://deltaco.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://deltaco.com/</a></li><li>Chick-fil-A:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chick-fil-a.com/</a></li><li>In-N-Out:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.in-n-out.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.in-n-out.com/</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li><li>Aaron Francis:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/aarondfrancis" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/aarondfrancis</a></li><li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li>Codegen:&nbsp;<a href="https://codegen.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codegen.com/</a></li><li>Figma:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.figma.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.figma.com/</a></li><li>Assassin's Creed:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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target="_blank">https://www.nvidia.com/</a></li><li>Porsche: porsche.com</li></ul><p>Connect with David</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://cra.mr/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cra.mr/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/zeeg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/zeeg</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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They dig into the state of AI agents, developer efficiency, and why Codegen isn’t killing jobs anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:47) - Whiskey review and rating&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:12) - Hot Take: Syntax.fm vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:06) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(20:27) - Hot Take: Taco Bell vs Del Taco&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:36) - What exactly is &#34;MCP&#34;?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:55) - Can you leverage AI to build SaaS for you?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:21) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:27) - Rum and snacks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:12) - Chuck is moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:18) - David&#39;s Sim racing rig&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:33) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Woodford Reserve Double Double Oaked:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/whiskey/double-double-oaked/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels Single Barrel Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/single-barrel-rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;High West:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highwest.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Syntax:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sentry:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Typescript:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Python:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;DHH:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laracon:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;37signals:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://37signals.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://37signals.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Del Taco:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deltaco.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://deltaco.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chick-fil-A:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In-N-Out:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; 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They swap TV recommendations, debate developer priorities like security and rewrites, and more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:43) - Whiskey review and rating: Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:59) - Hot Take: butter on a PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:12) - Do we care about security in our applications?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:23) - Challenges with AI tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:44) - The evolution of developer tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:09) - AI&#39;s role in software development&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:39) - Chuck&#39;s complications with moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:36) - Should we drop Severence?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:25) - Jedi Survivor and gaming&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:35) - Game to film adaptations&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:57) - Robbie on his new job&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.unionhorse.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.unionhorse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CouplaBeers - SNL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;v0:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://v0.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://v0.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nespresso:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nespresso.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nespresso.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Severance:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Silo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Before:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/before/umc.cmc.4uwoba1ftlsr5da94wc98ilsc&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/before/umc.cmc.4uwoba1ftlsr5da94wc98ilsc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;White Lotus:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;No Country For Old Men:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_Men&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_Men&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi Survivor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jedi Fallen Order:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;FIFA:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fifa.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Zelda:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/zelda-games&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/zelda-games&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Skyrim:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ROG Ally:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Steamdeck:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Manchester United:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manutd.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Starfield:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Mandalorian:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Book of Boba Fett:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Andor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sekelton Crew:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ewoks: The Battle for Endor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks:_The_Battle_for_Endor&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks:_The_Battle_for_Endor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Knights of the Old Republic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nintendo Switch 2:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mario Kart World:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/mario-kart-world/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/mario-kart-world/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Super Mario Bros. Movie:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Donkey Kong Bananza:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/donkey-kong-bananza/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/donkey-kong-bananza/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Avatar:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan Glass:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Lenovo:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lenovo.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lenovo.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/N5ZfS0-O6MdaCxb00y1jUyi4rJmP41bQyZdr-I_tx8Q</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jgzet0fsxe2bmnd7f0c9ovec.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about American whiskey, buttered PB&amp;Js, and the quirks of AI coding assistants. They swap TV recommendations, debate developer priorities like security and rewrites, and more.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:43) - Whiskey review and rating: Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey</li><li>(13:59) - Hot Take: butter on a PB&amp;J?</li><li>(18:12) - Do we care about security in our applications?</li><li>(23:23) - Challenges with AI tools</li><li>(27:44) - The evolution of developer tools</li><li>(28:09) - AI's role in software development</li><li>(33:39) - Chuck's complications with moving to Italy</li><li>(36:36) - Should we drop Severence?</li><li>(40:25) - Jedi Survivor and gaming</li><li>(47:35) - Game to film adaptations</li><li>(50:57) - Robbie on his new job</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li>Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.unionhorse.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.unionhorse.com/</a></li><li>CouplaBeers - SNL:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50</a></li><li>The Food That Built America:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america</a></li><li>HashiCorp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a></li><li>IBM:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ibm.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com/</a></li><li>Astro:&nbsp;<a href="https://astro.build/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a></li><li>Cursor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.cursor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a></li><li>React:&nbsp;<a href="https://react.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a></li><li>Ember:&nbsp;<a href="https://emberjs.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a></li><li>Laravel:&nbsp;<a href="https://laravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a></li><li>Next.js:&nbsp;<a href="https://nextjs.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a></li><li>Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes</a></li><li>Warp:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.warp.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a></li><li>Windsurf:&nbsp;<a href="https://windsurf.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a></li><li>Copilot:&nbsp;<a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a></li><li>Claude:&nbsp;<a href="https://claude.ai/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a></li><li>v0:&nbsp;<a href="https://v0.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://v0.dev/</a></li><li>Gemini:&nbsp;<a href="https://gemini.google.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gemini.google.com/</a></li><li>ChatGPT:&nbsp;<a href="https://chatgpt.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com/</a></li><li>Nespresso:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nespresso.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nespresso.com/</a></li><li>Severance:&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx</a></li><li>Silo:&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice</a></li><li>Before:&nbsp;<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/before/umc.cmc.4uwoba1ftlsr5da94wc98ilsc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tv.apple.com/us/show/before/umc.cmc.4uwoba1ftlsr5da94wc98ilsc</a></li><li>White Lotus:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus</a></li><li>No Country For Old Men:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_Men" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_Men</a></li><li>Jedi Survivor:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor</a></li><li>Jedi Fallen Order:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order</a></li><li>FIFA:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.fifa.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fifa.com/</a></li><li>Zelda:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/zelda-games" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/zelda-games</a></li><li>Skyrim:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim</a></li><li>ROG Ally:&nbsp;<a href="https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rog.asus.com/gaming-handhelds/rog-ally/rog-ally-2023/</a></li><li>Steamdeck:&nbsp;<a href="https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/</a></li><li>Manchester United:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.manutd.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.manutd.com/</a></li><li>Starfield:&nbsp;<a href="https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield</a></li><li>The Mandalorian:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian</a></li><li>The Book of Boba Fett:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett</a></li><li>Andor:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)</a></li><li>Sekelton Crew:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew</a></li><li>Ewoks: The Battle for Endor:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks:_The_Battle_for_Endor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks:_The_Battle_for_Endor</a></li><li>Knights of the Old Republic:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic</a></li><li>Nintendo Switch 2:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2</a></li><li>Mario Kart World:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/mario-kart-world/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/mario-kart-world/</a></li><li>The Super Mario Bros. Movie:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie</a></li><li>Donkey Kong Bananza:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/donkey-kong-bananza/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/featured-games/donkey-kong-bananza/</a></li><li>Avatar:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)</a></li><li>Norlan Glass:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li><li>Lenovo:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lenovo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.lenovo.com/</a></li><li>React Miami:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a></li><li>YouTube:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Vibe Podcasting: App Rewrites, AI Assistants, PB&amp;Js, and more!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jgzet0fsxe2bmnd7f0c9ovec/zxx7266mi69apcegnxac0l6j.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3256</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>190</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about American whiskey, buttered PB&amp;amp;Js, and the quirks of AI coding assistants. They swap TV recommendations, debate developer priorities like security and rewrites, and more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:43) - Whiskey review and rating: Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:59) - Hot Take: butter on a PB&amp;amp;J?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:12) - Do we care about security in our applications?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:23) - Challenges with AI tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:44) - The evolution of developer tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(28:09) - AI&#39;s role in software development&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:39) - Chuck&#39;s complications with moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(36:36) - Should we drop Severence?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:25) - Jedi Survivor and gaming&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:35) - Game to film adaptations&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:57) - Robbie on his new job&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Union Horse Distilling Co Rolling Standard Four Grain Whiskey:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.unionhorse.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.unionhorse.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;CouplaBeers - SNL:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPSTQSGb50&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;IBM:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ember:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Next.js:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/your-terminal-is-getting-smarter-with-ben-holmes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;v0:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://v0.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://v0.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gemini:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/q5wvp9wtk3ytmtghxm1igol3/thumbnail-q5wvp9wtk3ytmtghxm1igol3.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/q5wvp9wtk3ytmtghxm1igol3/thumbnail-q5wvp9wtk3ytmtghxm1igol3.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jgzet0fsxe2bmnd7f0c9ovec/ph8lwvfxubskqdagw25ol9xo/transcoded-01KECKDMRYQSYX36MNEJ3RR3AQ-01KECKDMRYP8A00KAHYVA8HXBX_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ben Holmes—Astro core team alum and now at Warp—about the rapid evolution of developer tools, the promise and quirks of AI-powered coding, and why he’s betting big on terminal UX.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:09) - Warp and dev tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:20) - Whiskey intro and rating: Heaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:47) - Hot Take: inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:11) - What Cursor AI gets right (and wrong)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:12) - Pros and cons of Windsurf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:02) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:27) - Vim Motions and The Vim Gym&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:45) - Hot Take: sidebar on the left or right in VS Code&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:40) - Specialize or generalize?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:01) - Frameworks vs doing your own thing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:21) - The MBA journey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Ben&#39;s connection to Peloton&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:12) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cline:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cline.bot/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cline.bot/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ghostty:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vim Motions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barbarianmeetscoding.com/boost-your-coding-fu-with-vscode-and-vim/moving-blazingly-fast-with-the-core-vim-motions/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.barbarianmeetscoding.com/boost-your-coding-fu-with-vscode-and-vim/moving-blazingly-fast-with-the-core-vim-motions/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; 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target="_blank">https://www.gatech.edu/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Connect with Ben</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://bholmes.dev/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bholmes.dev/</a></li><li>X / Twitter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/bholmesdev" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/bholmesdev</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Your Terminal Is Getting Smarter with Ben Holmes</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lwfv6ruxfugcrcffv5a3cm2q/m3erl49ya4rh8har20vdp15f.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3349</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>189</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ben Holmes—Astro core team alum and now at Warp—about the rapid evolution of developer tools, the promise and quirks of AI-powered coding, and why he’s betting big on terminal UX.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:09) - Warp and dev tools&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(04:20) - Whiskey intro and rating: Heaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:47) - Hot Take: inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(17:11) - What Cursor AI gets right (and wrong)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(23:12) - Pros and cons of Windsurf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(25:02) - Hot Take: git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(27:27) - Vim Motions and The Vim Gym&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(30:45) - Hot Take: sidebar on the left or right in VS Code&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:40) - Specialize or generalize?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:01) - Frameworks vs doing your own thing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:21) - The MBA journey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Ben&#39;s connection to Peloton&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:12) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Grain To Glass Kentucky Straight Rye:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astro:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Warp:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cursor:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Windsurf:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Copilot:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cline:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cline.bot/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cline.bot/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ghostty:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vim Motions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barbarianmeetscoding.com/boost-your-coding-fu-with-vscode-and-vim/moving-blazingly-fast-with-the-core-vim-motions/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.barbarianmeetscoding.com/boost-your-coding-fu-with-vscode-and-vim/moving-blazingly-fast-with-the-core-vim-motions/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; 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Clint shares stories from his journey through the spirits industry, his passion for whiskey, and what makes Sagamore stand out in a crowded market.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) – Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:07) – Whiskey intro and rating: Sagamore Manhattan Finish Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:53) – The history and production of Sagamore Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:49) – Whiskey culture and collecting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:38) – Sagamore’s unique bottling and branding&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:35) – Whiskey tasting techniques and anecdotes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:30) – Old school steakhouses&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:59) – Sagamore Spirit WWW barrel pick&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:08) – Is it a waste to use a good whiskey in a cocktail?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:13) – Sneaker collections and preferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:52) – Italy and speaking Italian&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:25) – All about pizza&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:02) – What would Clint do if not in the whiskey business?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:50) – Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Norwood:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kevin Plank:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Plank&#34; 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rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Tsushima&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dishonored:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Clint&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Instagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">gid://art19-episode-locator/V0/ZkylgtByuAh0_J-wn0p1CO7fkkSuIqtg_s07jry093c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/r8305m0zjhdxso1i0voigv8u.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Clint Spotleson of Sagamore Spirit about the craft behind their unique Manhattan Finish Rye, the history of Maryland-style whiskey, and why great whiskey is meant to be shared. Clint shares stories from his journey through the spirits industry, his passion for whiskey, and what makes Sagamore stand out in a crowded market.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) – Intro</li><li>(02:07) – Whiskey intro and rating: Sagamore Manhattan Finish Rye Whiskey</li><li>(15:53) – The history and production of Sagamore Rye</li><li>(18:49) – Whiskey culture and collecting</li><li>(22:38) – Sagamore’s unique bottling and branding</li><li>(29:35) – Whiskey tasting techniques and anecdotes</li><li>(33:30) – Old school steakhouses</li><li>(34:59) – Sagamore Spirit WWW barrel pick</li><li>(40:08) – Is it a waste to use a good whiskey in a cocktail?</li><li>(42:13) – Sneaker collections and preferences</li><li>(47:52) – Italy and speaking Italian</li><li>(51:25) – All about pizza</li><li>(54:02) – What would Clint do if not in the whiskey business?</li><li>(56:50) – Plugs</li></ul><p>Links</p><ul><li>Sagamore Spirit:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Ryan Norwood:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/</a></li><li>Norlan:&nbsp;<a href="https://norlanglass.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com/</a></li><li>Buffalo Trace:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/</a></li><li>Jack Rose:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/</a></li><li>Kevin Plank:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Plank" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Plank</a></li><li>Under Armour:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.underarmour.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.underarmour.com/</a></li><li>The Baltimore Sun:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.baltimoresun.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.baltimoresun.com/</a></li><li>Hammer and Nails:&nbsp;<a href="https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/</a></li><li>Durant's:&nbsp;<a href="https://durantsaz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://durantsaz.com/</a></li><li>Goodfellas:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodfellas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodfellas</a></li><li>Jordans:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nike.com/jordan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nike.com/jordan</a></li><li>Yeezy:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.goat.com/collections/yeezy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.goat.com/collections/yeezy</a></li><li>Adidas:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.adidas.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.adidas.com/</a></li><li>Nike:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nike.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nike.com/</a></li><li>Frank's Hot Sauce:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.franksredhot.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.franksredhot.com/</a></li><li>Ghost of Tsushima:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Tsushima" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Tsushima</a></li><li>Dishonored:&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Clint</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a></li><li>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty</a></li></ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a></li><li>Chuck Carpenter:&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a></li></ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul><li>Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a></li><li>Apple Podcasts:&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a></li><li>Spotify:&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a></li><li>Overcast:&nbsp;<a 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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&nbsp;<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Inside Sagamore: The Revival of Maryland Rye with Clint Spotleson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r8305m0zjhdxso1i0voigv8u/y6s8beubinwtcieufqsjg8iy.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3566</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>188</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Clint Spotleson of Sagamore Spirit about the craft behind their unique Manhattan Finish Rye, the history of Maryland-style whiskey, and why great whiskey is meant to be shared. Clint shares stories from his journey through the spirits industry, his passion for whiskey, and what makes Sagamore stand out in a crowded market.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) – Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:07) – Whiskey intro and rating: Sagamore Manhattan Finish Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:53) – The history and production of Sagamore Rye&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(18:49) – Whiskey culture and collecting&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(22:38) – Sagamore’s unique bottling and branding&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(29:35) – Whiskey tasting techniques and anecdotes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(33:30) – Old school steakhouses&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(34:59) – Sagamore Spirit WWW barrel pick&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(40:08) – Is it a waste to use a good whiskey in a cocktail?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(42:13) – Sneaker collections and preferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(47:52) – Italy and speaking Italian&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(51:25) – All about pizza&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(54:02) – What would Clint do if not in the whiskey business?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(56:50) – Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ryan Norwood:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-norwood-91641562/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kevin Plank:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Plank&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Plank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Under Armour:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.underarmour.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.underarmour.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Baltimore Sun:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.baltimoresun.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.baltimoresun.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Hammer and Nails:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Durant&#39;s:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://durantsaz.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://durantsaz.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Goodfellas:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodfellas&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodfellas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jordans:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/jordan&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nike.com/jordan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Yeezy:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.goat.com/collections/yeezy&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.goat.com/collections/yeezy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adidas:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adidas.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adidas.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nike:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nike.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Frank&#39;s Hot Sauce:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.franksredhot.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.franksredhot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ghost of Tsushima:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Tsushima&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_of_Tsushima&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dishonored:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Clint&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Instagram:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/theonlyspotty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; rel=&#34;noopener noreferrer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qrw8gqr8j7qnoev1p12fg932/thumbnail-qrw8gqr8j7qnoev1p12fg932.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qrw8gqr8j7qnoev1p12fg932/thumbnail-qrw8gqr8j7qnoev1p12fg932.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r8305m0zjhdxso1i0voigv8u/bjf6e1hore1k2pix9rybi9s8/transcoded-01KECKDZ0R0JCB4C429RWKBP60-01KECKDZ0RXXHMYDT57KAK8F13_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>What Makes a Good Job in Tech?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about career moves and tech transitions. They discuss Robbie’s new role at HashiCorp and Chuck’s dive into cybersecurity. They also debate legacy tech quirks, open-source updates, and the ever-evolving world of AI.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:26) - Robbie&#39;s job transition&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:29) - Tech nostalgia: old OSs and PC games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:21) - Chuck&#39;s new job&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:48) - Starpod and what&#39;s coming next&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:16) - Updating Shepherd to Svelte 5&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:52) - Current AI/toolset of choice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:54) - Aging musicians&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:03) - Celebrities on crazy diets&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Fast food preferences and restaurants&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(43:17) - Private equity and service businesses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:08) - What service jobs would Chuck and Robbie enjoy?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:03) - Post-apocalyptic society and UBI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:02) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:01) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cyrusnoble.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cyrusnoble.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smartless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.smartless.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.smartless.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://evanwilliams.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://evanwilliams.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marker&#39;s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atari: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atari.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heretic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zork: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jon Hamm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Men: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod: &lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod on GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;50 Cent: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wu-Tang Clan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Method Man: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eminem: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ice Cube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ice-T: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T&lt;/a&gt; ￼&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jay-Z: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chelsea Handler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries: &lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anagram: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anagramsecurity.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anagramsecurity.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f3ccbea5-597a-439a-8a62-151ecbe66389</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/g84um7jdq6p9djt0h7k2c1au.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about career moves and tech transitions. They discuss Robbie’s new role at HashiCorp and Chuck’s dive into cybersecurity. They also debate legacy tech quirks, open-source updates, and the ever-evolving world of AI.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey</li>
<li>(10:26) - Robbie's job transition</li>
<li>(12:29) - Tech nostalgia: old OSs and PC games</li>
<li>(15:21) - Chuck's new job</li>
<li>(18:48) - Starpod and what's coming next</li>
<li>(22:16) - Updating Shepherd to Svelte 5</li>
<li>(23:52) - Current AI/toolset of choice</li>
<li>(32:54) - Aging musicians</li>
<li>(37:03) - Celebrities on crazy diets</li>
<li>(38:00) - Fast food preferences and restaurants</li>
<li>(43:17) - Private equity and service businesses</li>
<li>(45:08) - What service jobs would Chuck and Robbie enjoy?</li>
<li>(47:03) - Post-apocalyptic society and UBI</li>
<li>(51:02) - React Miami</li>
<li>(55:01) - Plugs</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>Links</p><ul>
<li>Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey: <a href="https://cyrusnoble.com/" target="_blank">https://cyrusnoble.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Norlan: <a href="https://norlanglass.com" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com</a>
</li>
<li>Smartless: <a href="https://www.smartless.com/" target="_blank">https://www.smartless.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a>
</li>
<li>Evan Williams: <a href="https://evanwilliams.com/" target="_blank">https://evanwilliams.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Marker's Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace: <a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/</a>
</li>
<li>HashiCorp: <a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" target="_blank">https://www.hashicorp.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a>
</li>
<li>IBM: <a href="https://www.ibm.com" target="_blank">https://www.ibm.com</a>
</li>
<li>Atari: <a href="https://atari.com/" target="_blank">https://atari.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Heretic: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)</a>
</li>
<li>Zork: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork</a>
</li>
<li>Jon Hamm: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm</a>
</li>
<li>Mad Men: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men</a>
</li>
<li>Starpod: <a href="https://starpod.dev/" target="_blank">https://starpod.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Starpod on GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod" target="_blank">https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod</a>
</li>
<li>Shepherd: <a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
<li>Svelte: <a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">https://svelte.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Warp: <a href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a>
</li>
<li>Cursor: <a href="https://www.cursor.com/" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Windsurf: <a href="https://windsurf.ai/" target="_blank">https://windsurf.ai/</a>
</li>
<li>Typecraft: <a href="https://typecraft.dev/" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Ghostty: <a href="https://ghostty.org/" target="_blank">https://ghostty.org/</a>
</li>
<li>50 Cent: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent</a>
</li>
<li>Wu-Tang Clan: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan</a>
</li>
<li>Method Man: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man</a>
</li>
<li>Eminem: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem</a>
</li>
<li>Ice Cube: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube</a>
</li>
<li>Ice-T: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T</a> ￼</li>
<li>Jay-Z: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z</a>
</li>
<li>Chelsea Handler: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler</a>
</li>
<li>The Food That Built America: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a>
</li>
<li>Darknet Diaries: <a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/" target="_blank">https://darknetdiaries.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Anagram: <a href="https://www.anagramsecurity.com/" target="_blank">https://www.anagramsecurity.com/</a>
</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a> </li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a> </li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a> </li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a> </li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a> </li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
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&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:26) - Robbie&#39;s job transition&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:29) - Tech nostalgia: old OSs and PC games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:21) - Chuck&#39;s new job&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:48) - Starpod and what&#39;s coming next&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:16) - Updating Shepherd to Svelte 5&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:52) - Current AI/toolset of choice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:54) - Aging musicians&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:03) - Celebrities on crazy diets&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Fast food preferences and restaurants&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(43:17) - Private equity and service businesses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:08) - What service jobs would Chuck and Robbie enjoy?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:03) - Post-apocalyptic society and UBI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:02) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:01) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cyrus Noble Small Batch Bourbon Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cyrusnoble.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cyrusnoble.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smartless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.smartless.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.smartless.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Evan Williams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://evanwilliams.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://evanwilliams.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marker&#39;s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HashiCorp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hashicorp.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IBM: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ibm.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atari: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atari.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heretic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_(video_game)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zork: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jon Hamm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hamm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Men: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod: &lt;a href=&#34;https://starpod.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://starpod.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starpod on GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/shipshapecode/starpod&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://svelte.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windsurf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://windsurf.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://windsurf.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;50 Cent: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wu-Tang Clan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Method Man: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_Man&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eminem: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ice Cube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cube&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ice-T: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-T&lt;/a&gt; ￼&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jay-Z: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chelsea Handler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Handler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Food_That_Built_America&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries: &lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anagram: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anagramsecurity.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anagramsecurity.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/y4s1tb8ezihils7u8hfajvkh/thumbnail-y4s1tb8ezihils7u8hfajvkh.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/y4s1tb8ezihils7u8hfajvkh/thumbnail-y4s1tb8ezihils7u8hfajvkh.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/g84um7jdq6p9djt0h7k2c1au/vf2u6y83zv9zlfjl8nmaebxq/transcoded-01KECKDX32CTTH3VJB13ZGCM8C-01KECKDX32CJZ907BS1SGG2X94_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/g84um7jdq6p9djt0h7k2c1au.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Why Most Developers Overcomplicate Everything w/ Aaron Francis</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Aaron Francis about developer education, Laravel vs. Rails, and the evolution of full-stack development. They explore the trade-offs of opinionated frameworks, the practicality of PHP, and why simplicity often wins. Plus, Aaron shares his hot takes on modern web dev trends, and the joys of working from a home-office-that’s-not-home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:19) - Meet Aaron Francis&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:28) - Whiskey intro and rating: Green River Distilling Co. Full Proof Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:32) - The home office that’s not at home&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:44) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:52) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:44) - Let vs Const&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:40) - Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:23) - Challenges of full stack frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:18) - Aaron’s staycation birthday present&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:38) - Two sets of twins&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:56) - Family vehicles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(59:59) - What Aaron would do if not in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:01:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Links&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mostly Technical: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mostlytechnical.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://mostlytechnical.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Postgres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Screencasting: &lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Try Hard Studios: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tryhardstudios.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tryhardstudios.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Green River Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://greenriverwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://greenriverwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tuple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tuple.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tuple.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ben Orenstein: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/r00k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/r00k&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Car Mom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Aaron&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aaronfrancis.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aaronfrancis.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mastering Postgres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://masteringpostgres.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://masteringpostgres.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High Performance SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://highperformancesqlite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highperformancesqlite.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Screencasting: &lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3d332188-1356-467b-bfc0-c5569c6ea56e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zd789i41smfmbv16pfh4m13e.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Aaron Francis about developer education, Laravel vs. Rails, and the evolution of full-stack development. They explore the trade-offs of opinionated frameworks, the practicality of PHP, and why simplicity often wins. Plus, Aaron shares his hot takes on modern web dev trends, and the joys of working from a home-office-that’s-not-home.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:19) - Meet Aaron Francis</li>
<li>(03:28) - Whiskey intro and rating: Green River Distilling Co. Full Proof Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey</li>
<li>(14:32) - The home office that’s not at home</li>
<li>(17:44) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS</li>
<li>(18:52) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge</li>
<li>(21:44) - Let vs Const</li>
<li>(25:40) - Rails vs Laravel</li>
<li>(33:23) - Challenges of full stack frameworks</li>
<li>(48:18) - Aaron’s staycation birthday present</li>
<li>(50:38) - Two sets of twins</li>
<li>(56:56) - Family vehicles</li>
<li>(59:59) - What Aaron would do if not in tech</li>
<li>(01:01:20) - Plugs</li>
</ul>Links<ul>
<li>Mostly Technical: <a href="https://mostlytechnical.com/" target="_blank">https://mostlytechnical.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com/" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a>
</li>
<li>SQLite: <a href="https://www.sqlite.org/" target="_blank">https://www.sqlite.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Postgres: <a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" target="_blank">https://www.postgresql.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Screencasting: <a href="https://screencasting.com" target="_blank">https://screencasting.com</a>
</li>
<li>Try Hard Studios: <a href="https://tryhardstudios.com/" target="_blank">https://tryhardstudios.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ryan Reynolds: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds</a>
</li>
<li>Green River Distilling: <a href="https://greenriverwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">https://greenriverwhiskey.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Norlan: <a href="https://norlanglass.com" target="_blank">https://norlanglass.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Taylor Otwell: <a href="https://x.com/taylorotwell" target="_blank">https://x.com/taylorotwell</a>
</li>
<li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
<li>Tuple: <a href="https://tuple.app/" target="_blank">https://tuple.app/</a>
</li>
<li>Ben Orenstein: <a href="https://x.com/r00k" target="_blank">https://x.com/r00k</a>
</li>
<li>The Car Mom: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom</a>
</li>
</ul>Connect with Aaron<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://aaronfrancis.com" target="_blank">https://aaronfrancis.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/aarondfrancis" target="_blank">https://x.com/aarondfrancis</a>
</li>
<li>Mastering Postgres: <a href="https://masteringpostgres.com/" target="_blank">https://masteringpostgres.com/</a>
</li>
<li>High Performance SQLite: <a href="https://highperformancesqlite.com/" target="_blank">https://highperformancesqlite.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Screencasting: <a href="https://screencasting.com/" target="_blank">https://screencasting.com/</a>
</li>
</ul>Connect with Chuck and Robbie<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>Subscribe and stay in touch<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Why Most Developers Overcomplicate Everything w/ Aaron Francis</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zd789i41smfmbv16pfh4m13e/et1nsmjpxg7g893qjq3u2cmt.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3800</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>186</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Aaron Francis about developer education, Laravel vs. Rails, and the evolution of full-stack development. They explore the trade-offs of opinionated frameworks, the practicality of PHP, and why simplicity often wins. Plus, Aaron shares his hot takes on modern web dev trends, and the joys of working from a home-office-that’s-not-home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:19) - Meet Aaron Francis&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:28) - Whiskey intro and rating: Green River Distilling Co. Full Proof Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:32) - The home office that’s not at home&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:44) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:52) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:44) - Let vs Const&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:40) - Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:23) - Challenges of full stack frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:18) - Aaron’s staycation birthday present&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:38) - Two sets of twins&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:56) - Family vehicles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(59:59) - What Aaron would do if not in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:01:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Links&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mostly Technical: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mostlytechnical.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://mostlytechnical.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Postgres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.postgresql.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Screencasting: &lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Try Hard Studios: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tryhardstudios.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tryhardstudios.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Reynolds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Green River Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://greenriverwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://greenriverwhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Norlan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://norlanglass.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://norlanglass.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/taylorotwell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tuple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tuple.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tuple.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ben Orenstein: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/r00k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/r00k&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Car Mom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@TheCarMom&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Aaron&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aaronfrancis.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aaronfrancis.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/aarondfrancis&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mastering Postgres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://masteringpostgres.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://masteringpostgres.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High Performance SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://highperformancesqlite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highperformancesqlite.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Screencasting: &lt;a href=&#34;https://screencasting.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://screencasting.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ytllyk91sa2kph2x1rv206gf/thumbnail-ytllyk91sa2kph2x1rv206gf.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ytllyk91sa2kph2x1rv206gf/thumbnail-ytllyk91sa2kph2x1rv206gf.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zd789i41smfmbv16pfh4m13e/lvb6yl7wtvlznc4suy05gia8/transcoded-01KECKDZ1AH1RQR4SNR2R3MBX4-01KECKDZ1AV5E02G8KNVQY6H5V_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tailwind 4, DeepSeek AI, and the End of the Old Web</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck cover a wide range of topics, including AI and its impact on web development. They discuss DeepSeek, Tailwind’s latest updates, and whether Stack Overflow is still relevant. Plus, a detour into skiing, college sports, and Nintendo&#39;s upcoming Switch 2.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(02:12) - Whiskey intro and rating: Wigle Pennsylvania Rye&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(11:41) - Data sharing and AI&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(14:34) - AI tools and programming&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(24:48) - Is Stack Overflow still relevant?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(26:56) - What&#39;s the deal with Tailwind 4?&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(37:49) - Skiing and snowboarding&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(42:42) - What is a January Transfer Window?&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(50:48) - TikTok and social media&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(52:52) - Video games and Switch 2&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(56:57) - Silo season 02 &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(59:04) - Condoms, food, and health policies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Wigle Pennsylvania Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wiglewhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wiglewhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;DeepSeek: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.deepseek.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.deepseek.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;TikTok: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tiktok.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tiktok.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Nvidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Reddit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Coolify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coolify.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coolify.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Ollama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Wes Bos: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Nintendo Switch 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;ROG Ally: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Steam Deck: &lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Silo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Manchester United: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manutd.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">476ef472-ade8-497f-b20b-5ced15acf05e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cx3afqb49pup6nz12uo288z3.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck cover a wide range of topics, including AI and its impact on web development. They discuss DeepSeek, Tailwind’s latest updates, and whether Stack Overflow is still relevant. Plus, a detour into skiing, college sports, and Nintendo's upcoming Switch 2.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul> <li>(00:00) - Intro</li> <li>(02:12) - Whiskey intro and rating: Wigle Pennsylvania Rye</li> <li>(11:41) - Data sharing and AI</li> <li>(14:34) - AI tools and programming</li> <li>(24:48) - Is Stack Overflow still relevant?</li> <li>(26:56) - What's the deal with Tailwind 4?</li>  <li>(37:49) - Skiing and snowboarding</li>  <li>(42:42) - What is a January Transfer Window?</li>  <li>(50:48) - TikTok and social media</li>  <li>(52:52) - Video games and Switch 2</li>  <li>(56:57) - Silo season 02 </li>
</ul><ul>  <li>(59:04) - Condoms, food, and health policies</li>
</ul><p>Links</p><ul>  <li>Wigle Pennsylvania Rye: <a href="https://wiglewhiskey.com/" target="_blank">https://wiglewhiskey.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Twitch: <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv/</a>
</li>  <li>DeepSeek: <a href="https://www.deepseek.com/" target="_blank">https://www.deepseek.com/</a>
</li>  <li>TikTok: <a href="https://tiktok.com" target="_blank">https://tiktok.com</a>
</li>  <li>Nvidia: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nvidia.com/</a>
</li>  <li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/" target="_blank">https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/</a>
</li>  <li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a>
</li>  <li>Reddit: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Warp: <a href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a>
</li>  <li>Coolify: <a href="https://www.coolify.io/" target="_blank">https://www.coolify.io/</a>
</li>  <li>Ollama: <a href="https://ollama.com/" target="_blank">https://ollama.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Wes Bos: <a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">https://wesbos.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Vite: <a href="https://vite.dev/" target="_blank">https://vite.dev/</a>
</li>  <li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a>
</li>  <li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a>
</li>  <li>Nintendo Switch 2: <a href="https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html</a>
</li>  <li>ROG Ally: <a href="https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html" target="_blank">https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html</a>
</li>  <li>Steam Deck: <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/" target="_blank">https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/</a>
</li>  <li>Silo: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)</a>
</li>  <li>The Food That Built America: <a href="https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america" target="_blank">https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america</a>
</li>  <li>Manchester United: <a href="https://www.manutd.com/" target="_blank">https://www.manutd.com/</a>
</li>
</ul><p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</p><ul>  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul><p>Subscribe and stay in touch</p><ul>  <li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
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</li>  <li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>  <li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>  <li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
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</ul><p>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tailwind 4, DeepSeek AI, and the End of the Old Web</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cx3afqb49pup6nz12uo288z3/msyx7gkq8dwyic3do6j6zso2.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3912</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>185</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck cover a wide range of topics, including AI and its impact on web development. They discuss DeepSeek, Tailwind’s latest updates, and whether Stack Overflow is still relevant. Plus, a detour into skiing, college sports, and Nintendo&#39;s upcoming Switch 2.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(02:12) - Whiskey intro and rating: Wigle Pennsylvania Rye&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(11:41) - Data sharing and AI&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(14:34) - AI tools and programming&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(24:48) - Is Stack Overflow still relevant?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;(26:56) - What&#39;s the deal with Tailwind 4?&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(37:49) - Skiing and snowboarding&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(42:42) - What is a January Transfer Window?&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(50:48) - TikTok and social media&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(52:52) - Video games and Switch 2&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(56:57) - Silo season 02 &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;(59:04) - Condoms, food, and health policies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Wigle Pennsylvania Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wiglewhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wiglewhiskey.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;DeepSeek: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.deepseek.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.deepseek.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;TikTok: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tiktok.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tiktok.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Nvidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Reddit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reddit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Coolify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coolify.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coolify.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Ollama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ollama.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ollama.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Wes Bos: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wesbos.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Nintendo Switch 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;ROG Ally: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.asus.com/us/site/gaming/rog/gaming-handheld/rog-ally.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Steam Deck: &lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Silo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;The Food That Built America: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.history.com/shows/the-food-that-built-america&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Manchester United: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manutd.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05) - Meet Travis Wagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:41) - Whiskey intro and rating: Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:04) - Implicit vs Explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:58) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:22) - Is YAML good or bad?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:24) - Thoughts on Python and semicolons&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:19) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:24) - Does GitHub history help your career?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:34) - Learning assembly&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:47) - iTerm vs Ghostty vs Warp&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:09) - What&#39;s wrong with using jQuery in 2025?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:17) - Astro and trying out other frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:17) - What Travis would do if tech wasn&#39;t an option&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Links&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Universal Music: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.universalmusic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.universalmusic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crunchyroll: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crunchyroll.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.crunchyroll.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crablang: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crablang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crablang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sloth Pipe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://iterm2.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://iterm2.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intercooler.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://intercoolerjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://intercoolerjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Travis&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/trvswgnr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/trvswgnr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
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<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:05) - Meet Travis Wagner</li>
<li>(02:41) - Whiskey intro and rating: Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey</li>
<li>(15:04) - Implicit vs Explicit types</li>
<li>(16:58) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS</li>
<li>(19:22) - Is YAML good or bad?</li>
<li>(20:24) - Thoughts on Python and semicolons</li>
<li>(25:19) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge</li>
<li>(28:24) - Does GitHub history help your career?</li>
<li>(36:34) - Learning assembly</li>
<li>(39:47) - iTerm vs Ghostty vs Warp</li>
<li>(41:09) - What's wrong with using jQuery in 2025?</li>
<li>(48:17) - Astro and trying out other frameworks</li>
<li>(53:17) - What Travis would do if tech wasn't an option</li>
</ul>Links<ul>
<li>Universal Music: <a href="https://www.universalmusic.com/" target="_blank">https://www.universalmusic.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Crunchyroll: <a href="https://www.crunchyroll.com/" target="_blank">https://www.crunchyroll.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Crablang: <a href="https://crablang.org/" target="_blank">https://crablang.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey: <a href="https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/" target="_blank">https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Sloth Pipe: <a href="https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe" target="_blank">https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Boot.dev: <a href="https://www.boot.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.boot.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Python: <a href="https://www.python.org/" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/</a>
</li>
<li>iTerm: <a href="https://iterm2.com/" target="_blank">https://iterm2.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ghostty: <a href="https://ghostty.org/" target="_blank">https://ghostty.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Warp: <a href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.warp.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>jQuery: <a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">https://jquery.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Intercooler.js: <a href="https://intercoolerjs.org/" target="_blank">https://intercoolerjs.org/</a>
</li>
<li>HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank">https://claude.ai/</a>
</li>
</ul>Connect with Travis<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://techsavvytravvy.com/" target="_blank">https://techsavvytravvy.com/</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/techsavvytravvy" target="_blank">https://x.com/techsavvytravvy</a>
</li>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/trvswgnr" target="_blank">https://github.com/trvswgnr</a>
</li>
</ul>Connect with Chuck and Robbie<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
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</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
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</ul>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Is jQuery Really Dead? And Other Hot Takes w/ Travis Wagner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ndjeir5kl1xqq15bnba9bnie/iixthdh2h7wsxqx58f889r5f.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3437</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>184</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Travis Wagner about his career move from Universal Music to Crunchyroll and the nuances of backend development. They discuss a wide range of hot takes, including whether jQuery is still relevant in 2025.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05) - Meet Travis Wagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:41) - Whiskey intro and rating: Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:04) - Implicit vs Explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:58) - Tailwind vs Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:22) - Is YAML good or bad?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:24) - Thoughts on Python and semicolons&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:19) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:24) - Does GitHub history help your career?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:34) - Learning assembly&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:47) - iTerm vs Ghostty vs Warp&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:09) - What&#39;s wrong with using jQuery in 2025?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:17) - Astro and trying out other frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:17) - What Travis would do if tech wasn&#39;t an option&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Links&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Universal Music: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.universalmusic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.universalmusic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crunchyroll: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crunchyroll.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.crunchyroll.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crablang: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crablang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crablang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Finger Lakes Distilling McKenzie Rye Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fingerlakesdistilling.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sloth Pipe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/trvswgnr/sloth-pipe&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm: &lt;a href=&#34;https://iterm2.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://iterm2.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ghostty: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostty.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ghostty.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intercooler.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://intercoolerjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://intercoolerjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Travis&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/trvswgnr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/trvswgnr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bi6h0u5jexfboitn5ry68qsc/thumbnail-bi6h0u5jexfboitn5ry68qsc.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bi6h0u5jexfboitn5ry68qsc/thumbnail-bi6h0u5jexfboitn5ry68qsc.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ndjeir5kl1xqq15bnba9bnie/q9yii3fv254ayf8uhinyusts/transcoded-01KECKCK7DN8Q83235JQ88Q92G-01KECKCK7DH31RSNX15RHBSESA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Is This the End of Tech Conferences? w/ Dax Raad</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dax Raad about his evolving career from software engineer to open-source advocate and content creator. They dive into his work on SST, explore the bizarre economics of tech conferences, and get into Dax’s next big move—manufacturing drone parts in the U.S. for the military.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:57) - Whiskey intro and rating: Glenmorangie &#34;A Tale of Tokyo&#34; Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:12) - Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:49) - New York vs Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:54) - Meat vs Veggies&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:55) - What is Dax bad at?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:05) - The real value of conferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:14) - APIs and frameworks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:06) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(41:59) - Eero routers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:27) - What would you do if software development went away?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:41) - Using ChatGPT to create an NPM library&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:00) - Claude vs ChatGPT&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:56) - What should people be learning for job safety?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:41) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Glenmorangie &#34;A Tale of Tokyo&#34; Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky: https://www.glenmorangie.com/en-us/products/a-tale-of-tokyo&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tomorrow.fm: https://tomorrow.fm&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;SST: https://sst.dev/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel: https://laravel.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Don&#39;t Die: https://dontdie.bryanjohnson.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Oura: https://ouraring.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;EmberConf: https://www.emberconf.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Orbit.js: https://orbitjs.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Eero: https://www.eero.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude: https://claude.ai/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Dax&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website: https://thdxr.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Podcast: https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website: https://whiskey.fm&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a406dfca-2823-4a0d-a6fa-a75be313e926</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ikr5oj3dcddsrd8u0yii9iei.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dax Raad about his evolving career from software engineer to open-source advocate and content creator. They dive into his work on SST, explore the bizarre economics of tech conferences, and get into Dax’s next big move—manufacturing drone parts in the U.S. for the military.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li><li>(02:57) - Whiskey intro and rating: Glenmorangie "A Tale of Tokyo" Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky</li><li>(12:12) - Rails vs Laravel</li><li>(13:49) - New York vs Miami</li><li>(15:54) - Meat vs Veggies</li><li>(19:55) - What is Dax bad at?</li><li>(24:05) - The real value of conferences</li><li>(35:14) - APIs and frameworks</li><li>(38:06) - React Miami</li><li>(41:59) - Eero routers</li><li>(44:27) - What would you do if software development went away?</li><li>(46:41) - Using ChatGPT to create an NPM library</li><li>(48:00) - Claude vs ChatGPT</li><li>(50:56) - What should people be learning for job safety?</li><li>(53:41) - Plugs</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li>Glenmorangie "A Tale of Tokyo" Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky: https://www.glenmorangie.com/en-us/products/a-tale-of-tokyo</li><li>Tomorrow.fm: https://tomorrow.fm</li><li>Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/</li><li>SST: https://sst.dev/</li><li>Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/</li><li>Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</li><li>Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/</li><li>Laravel: https://laravel.com/</li><li>Don't Die: https://dontdie.bryanjohnson.com/</li><li>Oura: https://ouraring.com/</li><li>Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/</li><li>React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/</li><li>EmberConf: https://www.emberconf.com/</li><li>Orbit.js: https://orbitjs.com/</li><li>Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</li><li>Eero: https://www.eero.com/</li><li>ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/</li><li>Claude: https://claude.ai/</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Dax</strong></p><ul><li>Website: https://thdxr.com/</li><li>X / Twitter: https://x.com/thdxr</li><li>Podcast: https://tomorrow.fm/</li><li>Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p><ul><li>Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</li><li>Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul><li>Website: https://whiskey.fm</li><li>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</li><li>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</li><li>Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</li><li>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Is This the End of Tech Conferences? w/ Dax Raad</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ikr5oj3dcddsrd8u0yii9iei/k8a7vlv7s0cwufb1tl4moyly.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3300</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>183</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dax Raad about his evolving career from software engineer to open-source advocate and content creator. They dive into his work on SST, explore the bizarre economics of tech conferences, and get into Dax’s next big move—manufacturing drone parts in the U.S. for the military.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(02:57) - Whiskey intro and rating: Glenmorangie &#34;A Tale of Tokyo&#34; Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(12:12) - Rails vs Laravel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(13:49) - New York vs Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(15:54) - Meat vs Veggies&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(19:55) - What is Dax bad at?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(24:05) - The real value of conferences&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(35:14) - APIs and frameworks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(38:06) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(41:59) - Eero routers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(44:27) - What would you do if software development went away?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(46:41) - Using ChatGPT to create an NPM library&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(48:00) - Claude vs ChatGPT&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(50:56) - What should people be learning for job safety?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;(53:41) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Glenmorangie &#34;A Tale of Tokyo&#34; Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky: https://www.glenmorangie.com/en-us/products/a-tale-of-tokyo&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tomorrow.fm: https://tomorrow.fm&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;SST: https://sst.dev/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Laravel: https://laravel.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Don&#39;t Die: https://dontdie.bryanjohnson.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Oura: https://ouraring.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;EmberConf: https://www.emberconf.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Orbit.js: https://orbitjs.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Eero: https://www.eero.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Claude: https://claude.ai/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Dax&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website: https://thdxr.com/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Podcast: https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Website: https://whiskey.fm&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mzc6mmputgtzv8jptvkkidpk/thumbnail-mzc6mmputgtzv8jptvkkidpk.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mzc6mmputgtzv8jptvkkidpk/thumbnail-mzc6mmputgtzv8jptvkkidpk.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ikr5oj3dcddsrd8u0yii9iei/vajuwripxysk3ptbzgplhwoj/transcoded-01KECKDZKGY6ARSB6PAHW7SNJN-01KECKDZKG8A8DFRR8KYEPP312_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From JavaScript to PHP: Josh Cirre’s Unexpected Dev Journey</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Josh Cirre about his journey from JavaScript to PHP, working with the Laravel team, and creating content for developers. They also discuss the value of opinionated frameworks, whether React was a mistake, fast food whatnot, and a surprising hot take on Taco Bell’s quality. Plus, Josh shares insights on content creation, the power of consistency, and why the best-performing videos aren’t always the most polished.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:30) - Whiskey intro and rating: Crown Royal 18 Extra Rare&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:50) - Is Taco Bell Mexican food?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:17) - Was React a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:13) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:12) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:34) - Should Josh learn to do a Seth Rogen impression?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:27) - Arm wrestling winner - Guillermo Rauch or Taylor Otwell?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:57) - Challenges in Josh&#39;s transition from JS to PHP&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:52) - The paradigm of server first frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:34) - Josh&#39;s advice for aspiring content creators&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal 18: https://www.crownroyal.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: https://laravel.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure SM7b: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DBX 286s: https://dbxpro.com/en-US/products/286s&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: https://react.dev/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: https://vuejs.org/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp.dev: https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: https://www.lamborghini.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seth Rogen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Rogen&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firebase: https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livewire Volt: https://livewire.laravel.com/docs/volt&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: https://www.php.net/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lane Wagner: https://x.com/wagslane&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: https://htmx.org/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Josh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: https://www.joshcirre.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: https://x.com/joshcirre&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joshcirre&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: https://whiskey.fm&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">236cf3fe-b8f5-4305-a6bf-be729d76a6e4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fu82txf8ho7yird1zm4bswj1.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Josh Cirre about his journey from JavaScript to PHP, working with the Laravel team, and creating content for developers. They also discuss the value of opinionated frameworks, whether React was a mistake, fast food whatnot, and a surprising hot take on Taco Bell’s quality. Plus, Josh shares insights on content creation, the power of consistency, and why the best-performing videos aren’t always the most polished.</p><p><br>In this episode:</p><ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:30) - Whiskey intro and rating: Crown Royal 18 Extra Rare</li>
<li>(10:50) - Is Taco Bell Mexican food?</li>
<li>(15:17) - Was React a mistake?</li>
<li>(17:13) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS</li>
<li>(20:12) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge</li>
<li>(26:34) - Should Josh learn to do a Seth Rogen impression?</li>
<li>(29:27) - Arm wrestling winner - Guillermo Rauch or Taylor Otwell?</li>
<li>(29:57) - Challenges in Josh's transition from JS to PHP</li>
<li>(32:52) - The paradigm of server first frameworks</li>
<li>(45:34) - Josh's advice for aspiring content creators</li>
<li>(52:20) - Plugs</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul>
<li>Crown Royal 18: https://www.crownroyal.com/</li>
<li>Laravel: https://laravel.com/</li>
</ul><ul>
<li>Shure SM7b: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b</li>
<li>DBX 286s: https://dbxpro.com/en-US/products/286s</li>
<li>Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/</li>
<li>React: https://react.dev/</li>
<li>Vue: https://vuejs.org/</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/</li>
<li>Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwell</li>
<li>Warp.dev: https://www.warp.dev/</li>
<li>Lamborghini: https://www.lamborghini.com/</li>
<li>Seth Rogen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Rogen</li>
<li>Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg</li>
<li>Firebase: https://firebase.google.com/</li>
<li>Livewire Volt: https://livewire.laravel.com/docs/volt</li>
<li>PHP: https://www.php.net/</li>
<li>Lane Wagner: https://x.com/wagslane</li>
<li>Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/</li>
<li>Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/</li>
<li>HTMX: https://htmx.org/</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Josh</strong></p><ul>
<li>Website: https://www.joshcirre.com/</li>
<li>X / Twitter: https://x.com/joshcirre</li>
<li>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joshcirre</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p><ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd <br>
</li>
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</ul><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From JavaScript to PHP: Josh Cirre’s Unexpected Dev Journey</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fu82txf8ho7yird1zm4bswj1/jb36sh0qy1gsli0i6ao35qj9.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3209</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>182</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Josh Cirre about his journey from JavaScript to PHP, working with the Laravel team, and creating content for developers. They also discuss the value of opinionated frameworks, whether React was a mistake, fast food whatnot, and a surprising hot take on Taco Bell’s quality. Plus, Josh shares insights on content creation, the power of consistency, and why the best-performing videos aren’t always the most polished.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:30) - Whiskey intro and rating: Crown Royal 18 Extra Rare&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:50) - Is Taco Bell Mexican food?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:17) - Was React a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:13) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:12) - Git Rebase vs Git Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:34) - Should Josh learn to do a Seth Rogen impression?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:27) - Arm wrestling winner - Guillermo Rauch or Taylor Otwell?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:57) - Challenges in Josh&#39;s transition from JS to PHP&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:52) - The paradigm of server first frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:34) - Josh&#39;s advice for aspiring content creators&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:20) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crown Royal 18: https://www.crownroyal.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: https://laravel.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure SM7b: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DBX 286s: https://dbxpro.com/en-US/products/286s&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: https://react.dev/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: https://vuejs.org/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwell&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp.dev: https://www.warp.dev/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: https://www.lamborghini.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seth Rogen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Rogen&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firebase: https://firebase.google.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Livewire Volt: https://livewire.laravel.com/docs/volt&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: https://www.php.net/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lane Wagner: https://x.com/wagslane&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: https://htmx.org/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Josh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: https://www.joshcirre.com/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: https://x.com/joshcirre&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joshcirre&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/dcfz89ivvo2fh6gv06hifb83/thumbnail-dcfz89ivvo2fh6gv06hifb83.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/dcfz89ivvo2fh6gv06hifb83/thumbnail-dcfz89ivvo2fh6gv06hifb83.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fu82txf8ho7yird1zm4bswj1/vghww8g32mlqumst5txn895g/transcoded-01KECKDMYZYWTJDWWJ93JMKHKQ-01KECKDMYZJ4B1X3FQGQ9Q27V8_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Future of Web Dev: Are We Overcomplicating Everything?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(07:42) - ORMs and Prisma&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(14:41) - React and modern web development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(35:18) - Ember vs Rails&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(39:22) - Home security and automation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(46:13) - Movies and going to the theater&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hatozaki: &lt;a href=&#34;https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jim Gaffigan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Prisma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.prisma.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Drizzle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://orm.drizzle.team/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://orm.drizzle.team/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Fakerjs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://fakerjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fakerjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Epic Web: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.epicweb.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.epicweb.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Figma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;LaunchDarkly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://launchdarkly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://launchdarkly.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Embroider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Webpack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://webpack.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Broccoli: &lt;a href=&#34;https://broccoli.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://broccoli.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rollup: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rollupjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rollupjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Parcel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://parceljs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://parceljs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Glimmer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://glimmerjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://glimmerjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Flipper Zero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://flipperzero.one/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://flipperzero.one/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tamagotchi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tamagotchi-official.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tamagotchi-official.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bun: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bun.sh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Z-Wave: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Wicked: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Greatest Showman: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Wizard of Oz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Gladiator II: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Moana 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Frozen 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Snow Queen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DoorDash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.doordash.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chick-fil-A: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">22a70e3b-bcf1-4939-89d0-268610de6b0d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/g1egc3ioodrytkznc05cqrf7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey</li>
 <li>(07:42) - ORMs and Prisma</li>
 <li>(11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle?</li>
  <li>(14:41) - React and modern web development</li>
  <li>(21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools</li>
  <li>(27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder?</li>
  <li>(35:18) - Ember vs Rails</li>
  <li>(39:22) - Home security and automation</li>
  <li>(44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked</li>
  <li>(46:13) - Movies and going to the theater</li>
  <li>(47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash</li>
  <li>(50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment?</li>
</ul>
<p>Links
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Hatozaki: <a href="https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/" target="_blank">https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/</a>
</li>
  <li>Jim Gaffigan: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan</a>
</li>
  <li>Prisma: <a href="https://www.prisma.io/" target="_blank">https://www.prisma.io/</a>
</li>
  <li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
  <li>Drizzle: <a href="https://orm.drizzle.team/" target="_blank">https://orm.drizzle.team/</a>
</li>
  <li>Fakerjs: <a href="https://fakerjs.dev/" target="_blank">https://fakerjs.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Kent C. Dodds: <a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">https://kentcdodds.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Epic Web: <a href="https://www.epicweb.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.epicweb.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">https://htmx.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
  <li>Supabase: <a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">https://supabase.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Figma: <a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank">https://www.figma.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>LaunchDarkly: <a href="https://launchdarkly.com/" target="_blank">https://launchdarkly.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Shepherd: <a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Embroider: <a href="https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider" target="_blank">https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider</a>
</li>
  <li>Webpack: <a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">https://webpack.js.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Vite: <a href="https://vite.dev/" target="_blank">https://vite.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Broccoli: <a href="https://broccoli.build/" target="_blank">https://broccoli.build/</a>
</li>
  <li>Rollup: <a href="https://rollupjs.org/" target="_blank">https://rollupjs.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Parcel: <a href="https://parceljs.org/" target="_blank">https://parceljs.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Glimmer: <a href="https://glimmerjs.com/" target="_blank">https://glimmerjs.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>RedwoodJS: <a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" target="_blank">https://redwoodjs.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com/" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Flipper Zero: <a href="https://flipperzero.one/" target="_blank">https://flipperzero.one/</a>
</li>
  <li>Tamagotchi: <a href="https://tamagotchi-official.com/" target="_blank">https://tamagotchi-official.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a>
</li>
  <li>Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/</a>
</li>
  <li>Bun: <a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">https://bun.sh/</a>
</li>
  <li>Z-Wave: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave</a>
</li>
  <li>Wicked: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)</a>
</li>
  <li>The Greatest Showman: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman</a>
</li>
  <li>The Wizard of Oz: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz</a>
</li>
  <li>Gladiator II: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II</a>
</li>
  <li>Moana 2: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2</a>
</li>
  <li>Frozen 2: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2</a>
</li>
  <li>The Snow Queen: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen</a>
</li>
  <li>DoorDash: <a href="https://www.doordash.com/" target="_blank">https://www.doordash.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Chick-fil-A: <a href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/" target="_blank">https://www.chick-fil-a.com/</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Future of Web Dev: Are We Overcomplicating Everything?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/g1egc3ioodrytkznc05cqrf7/jhtvzim64ufmgdxntuiwsav2.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3251</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>181</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(07:42) - ORMs and Prisma&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(14:41) - React and modern web development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(35:18) - Ember vs Rails&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(39:22) - Home security and automation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(46:13) - Movies and going to the theater&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hatozaki: &lt;a href=&#34;https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jim Gaffigan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Prisma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.prisma.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Drizzle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://orm.drizzle.team/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://orm.drizzle.team/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Fakerjs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://fakerjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://fakerjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Epic Web: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.epicweb.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.epicweb.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Figma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.figma.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;LaunchDarkly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://launchdarkly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://launchdarkly.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Embroider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Webpack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://webpack.js.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Broccoli: &lt;a href=&#34;https://broccoli.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://broccoli.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rollup: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rollupjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rollupjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Parcel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://parceljs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://parceljs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Glimmer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://glimmerjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://glimmerjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Flipper Zero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://flipperzero.one/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://flipperzero.one/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tamagotchi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tamagotchi-official.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tamagotchi-official.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bun: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bun.sh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Z-Wave: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Wicked: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Greatest Showman: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Wizard of Oz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Gladiator II: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Moana 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Frozen 2: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Snow Queen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DoorDash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.doordash.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chick-fil-A: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/dpf06mo3cj1zwttvalpssgul/thumbnail-dpf06mo3cj1zwttvalpssgul.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/dpf06mo3cj1zwttvalpssgul/thumbnail-dpf06mo3cj1zwttvalpssgul.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/g1egc3ioodrytkznc05cqrf7/kfg3g508hgy0sb7lsnyfzi7w/transcoded-01KECKDTZCFCRAVJ3HF09JDFP3-01KECKDTZC17Q0BKBV9SRBBMZC_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The React Debate No One Wants to Have (But Should) with Ken Wheeler and Typecraft</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ken Wheeler and Chris Power about everything from React and fantasy football to bizarre Airbnb experiences. They debate React’s evolution, lament the quirks of hooks, and revisit the infamous React t-shirt incident. Plus, Ken shares his DIY McRib recipe—because why not?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:47) - Beverage intros&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:25) - Internet names&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:29) - React components and hooks debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:35) - C++?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:36) - What is MANAMANA?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:14) - The current state of Airbnb vs hotels&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:29) - React vs JSX&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:34) - Ken making his own McRib&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:22) - Atlantic City&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:34) - Reading viewer comments&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:17) - Crypto stories&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:30) - The React T-shirt incident&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:30) - Ken’s React Rally story&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:29) - Parenting&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:09) - React and Render conferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:18) - Car talk&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:56) - Are Broncos overrated?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:21) - Kendrick Lamar and music tastes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:27) - Avril Lavigne and celebrity crushes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05:59) - Thanksgiving traditions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:10:37) - Getting older and being healthy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smirnoff Ice Screwdriver: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dark Hedges Irish Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.darkhedges.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.darkhedges.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C++: &lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C#: &lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alphabet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://abc.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://abc.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVIDIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boardwalk Empire: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Asbury Resort: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theasburyhotel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.theasburyhotel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kamala Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dogecoin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ford Bronco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Airstream: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airstream.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.airstream.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Rally: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactrally.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactrally.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DockYard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dockyard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://dockyard.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Cardarella: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/bcardarella&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/bcardarella&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hotel Transylvania: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Atlanta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lamborghini.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lamborghini.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ferrari: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ferrari.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kendrick Lamar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drake: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Las Vegas Raiders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raiders.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raiders.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;San Francisco 49ers: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.49ers.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.49ers.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Avril Lavigne: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jennifer Love Hewitt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joey Lauren Adams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mallrats: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chasing Amy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Sandler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Daddy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monica Bellucci: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elizabeth Banks: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Ken
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linktree: &lt;a href=&#34;https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chris
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">afef4961-5b67-44be-badd-e0a333fc4c90</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tnjhyx0i0eioz12iepys2939.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ken Wheeler and Chris Power about everything from React and fantasy football to bizarre Airbnb experiences. They debate React’s evolution, lament the quirks of hooks, and revisit the infamous React t-shirt incident. Plus, Ken shares his DIY McRib recipe—because why not?</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(00:47) - Beverage intros</li>
<li>(03:25) - Internet names</li>
<li>(09:29) - React components and hooks debate</li>
<li>(12:35) - C++?</li>
<li>(13:36) - What is MANAMANA?</li>
<li>(14:14) - The current state of Airbnb vs hotels</li>
<li>(16:29) - React vs JSX</li>
<li>(18:34) - Ken making his own McRib</li>
<li>(20:22) - Atlantic City</li>
<li>(22:34) - Reading viewer comments</li>
<li>(26:17) - Crypto stories</li>
<li>(30:30) - The React T-shirt incident</li>
<li>(32:30) - Ken’s React Rally story</li>
<li>(37:29) - Parenting</li>
<li>(39:09) - React and Render conferences</li>
<li>(40:18) - Car talk</li>
<li>(44:56) - Are Broncos overrated?</li>
<li>(49:21) - Kendrick Lamar and music tastes</li>
<li>(54:27) - Avril Lavigne and celebrity crushes</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Thanksgiving traditions</li>
<li>(01:10:37) - Getting older and being healthy</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Smirnoff Ice Screwdriver: <a href="https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver" target="_blank">https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver</a>
</li>
<li>Dark Hedges Irish Whiskey: <a href="https://www.darkhedges.com/" target="_blank">https://www.darkhedges.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Maker’s Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com/</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>C++: <a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp" target="_blank">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp</a>
</li>
<li>C#: <a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/" target="_blank">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/</a>
</li>
<li>Rust: <a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.rust-lang.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Meta: <a href="https://www.meta.com/" target="_blank">https://www.meta.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Apple: <a href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Netflix: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">https://www.netflix.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Amazon: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Microsoft: <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Alphabet: <a href="https://abc.xyz/" target="_blank">https://abc.xyz/</a>
</li>
<li>NVIDIA: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nvidia.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Anthropic: <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/" target="_blank">https://www.anthropic.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Boardwalk Empire: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire</a>
</li>
<li>Asbury Resort: <a href="https://www.theasburyhotel.com/" target="_blank">https://www.theasburyhotel.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Kamala Harris: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris</a>
</li>
<li>Bluesky: <a href="https://bsky.app/" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/</a>
</li>
<li>Bitcoin: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin</a>
</li>
<li>Dogecoin: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin</a>
</li>
<li>Seinfeld: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld</a>
</li>
<li>Ford Bronco: <a href="https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/" target="_blank">https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/</a>
</li>
<li>Porsche: <a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">https://www.porsche.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Airstream: <a href="https://www.airstream.com/" target="_blank">https://www.airstream.com/</a>
</li>
<li>React Rally: <a href="https://www.reactrally.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactrally.com/</a>
</li>
<li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a>
</li>
<li>DockYard: <a href="https://dockyard.com/" target="_blank">https://dockyard.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Brian Cardarella: <a href="https://x.com/bcardarella" target="_blank">https://x.com/bcardarella</a>
</li>
<li>Jack Rose: <a href="https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/" target="_blank">https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Hotel Transylvania: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania</a>
</li>
<li>Render Atlanta: <a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">https://www.renderatl.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Kelly Vaughn: <a href="https://x.com/kellyvaughn" target="_blank">https://x.com/kellyvaughn</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Lamborghini: <a href="https://www.lamborghini.com/" target="_blank">https://www.lamborghini.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ferrari: <a href="https://www.ferrari.com/" target="_blank">https://www.ferrari.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Kendrick Lamar: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar</a>
</li>
<li>Drake: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)</a>
</li>
<li>Las Vegas Raiders: <a href="https://www.raiders.com/" target="_blank">https://www.raiders.com/</a>
</li>
<li>San Francisco 49ers: <a href="https://www.49ers.com/" target="_blank">https://www.49ers.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Avril Lavigne: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne</a>
</li>
<li>Jennifer Love Hewitt: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt</a>
</li>
<li>Joey Lauren Adams: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams</a>
</li>
<li>Mallrats: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats</a>
</li>
<li>Chasing Amy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Sandler: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler</a>
</li>
<li>Big Daddy: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)</a>
</li>
<li>Monica Bellucci: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci</a>
</li>
<li>Elizabeth Banks: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Ken
<ul>
<li>Linktree: <a href="https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chris
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://typecraft.dev/" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/typecraft_dev" target="_blank">https://x.com/typecraft_dev</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
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</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The React Debate No One Wants to Have (But Should) with Ken Wheeler and Typecraft</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tnjhyx0i0eioz12iepys2939/r8e1ovwhgkub44surs9fj7xn.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4685</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>180</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ken Wheeler and Chris Power about everything from React and fantasy football to bizarre Airbnb experiences. They debate React’s evolution, lament the quirks of hooks, and revisit the infamous React t-shirt incident. Plus, Ken shares his DIY McRib recipe—because why not?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:47) - Beverage intros&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:25) - Internet names&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:29) - React components and hooks debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:35) - C++?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:36) - What is MANAMANA?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:14) - The current state of Airbnb vs hotels&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:29) - React vs JSX&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:34) - Ken making his own McRib&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:22) - Atlantic City&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:34) - Reading viewer comments&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:17) - Crypto stories&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:30) - The React T-shirt incident&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:30) - Ken’s React Rally story&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:29) - Parenting&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:09) - React and Render conferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:18) - Car talk&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:56) - Are Broncos overrated?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:21) - Kendrick Lamar and music tastes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:27) - Avril Lavigne and celebrity crushes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:05:59) - Thanksgiving traditions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:10:37) - Getting older and being healthy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smirnoff Ice Screwdriver: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.smirnoff.com/en-us/products/ready-to-drink/ice-screwdriver&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dark Hedges Irish Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.darkhedges.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.darkhedges.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C++: &lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;C#: &lt;a href=&#34;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rust-lang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.microsoft.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alphabet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://abc.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://abc.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVIDIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthropic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.anthropic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.anthropic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boardwalk Empire: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boardwalk_Empire&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Asbury Resort: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theasburyhotel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.theasburyhotel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kamala Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dogecoin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ford Bronco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Airstream: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airstream.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.airstream.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Rally: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactrally.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactrally.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DockYard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dockyard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://dockyard.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Cardarella: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/bcardarella&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/bcardarella&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hotel Transylvania: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Transylvania&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Atlanta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lamborghini.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lamborghini.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ferrari: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ferrari.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kendrick Lamar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drake: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_(musician)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Las Vegas Raiders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raiders.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raiders.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;San Francisco 49ers: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.49ers.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.49ers.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Avril Lavigne: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jennifer Love Hewitt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Love_Hewitt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joey Lauren Adams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lauren_Adams&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mallrats: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallrats&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chasing Amy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasing_Amy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Sandler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Sandler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Daddy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Daddy_(1999_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monica Bellucci: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Bellucci&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elizabeth Banks: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Banks&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Ken
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linktree: &lt;a href=&#34;https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://linktr.ee/kenwheelerbeats&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chris
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tnjhyx0i0eioz12iepys2939/mlb0079s8fai8yd9mwcyf9l9/transcoded-01KECKE305KDN7THZKZX4HAJ75-01KECKE305XSYPKS70Y7H4JN7P_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>How to Make a Podcast Worth Listening To with Dan Blumberg</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dan Blumberg about his journey from radio producer to product manager and podcaster. They explore the art of building great software, podcasting essentials, and the changing landscape of podcast platforms. Plus, Dan shares his kayaking adventures and insights on balancing authenticity and growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:26) - Whiskey review and rating: Woodinville Straight Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:23) - Apple Podcasts vs Spotify&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:20) - Spotify video vs YouTube&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:02) - Podcasting audio vs video&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:24) - Advice on starting a podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:24) - Equipment requirements for guests on podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:15) - Having a pre-interview interview&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:06) - Social media and podcasting challenges&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:37) - How to grow your audience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:18) - How to make money as a podcaster&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:28) - Being yourself vs having a persona&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:42) - Monetizing your podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:11) - What’s missing from RSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:38) - Dan’s non-tech career ideas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:40) - Podcast recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:12) - Dan’s plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Woodinville Straight Bourbon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crafted: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crafted.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crafted.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WNYC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wnyc.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wnyc.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NYT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spotify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pocket Casts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pocketcasts.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pocketcasts.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IAB: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.iab.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure SM7B: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Focusrite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://focusrite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://focusrite.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure MV7: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elgato: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.elgato.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.elgato.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AirPods: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/airpods/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/airpods/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Audio Technica: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Morning Edition: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chicago Public Radio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wbez.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wbez.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside: &lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://riverside.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TikTok: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mr. Beast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://youtube.com/@mrbeast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://youtube.com/@mrbeast&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Docker: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docker.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.docker.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Artium: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thisisartium.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.thisisartium.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jay Clouse: &lt;a href=&#34;https://creatorscience.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://creatorscience.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://harkaudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://harkaudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hard Fork: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Technology with Alex Kantrowitz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bigtechnology.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bigtechnology.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Decoder with Nilay Patel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theverge.com/decoder&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.theverge.com/decoder&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How I Built This: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquired: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.acquired.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.acquired.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smartless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://smartless.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://smartless.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sacha Baron Cohen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim Burton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beetlejuice: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries: &lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Dan
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crafted.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crafted.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dblums&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dblums&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">aa975234-5869-436d-b9b7-5c10f5853f07</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qeyz7nk1qsd7vrda5jctetr8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dan Blumberg about his journey from radio producer to product manager and podcaster. They explore the art of building great software, podcasting essentials, and the changing landscape of podcast platforms. Plus, Dan shares his kayaking adventures and insights on balancing authenticity and growth.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:26) - Whiskey review and rating: Woodinville Straight Bourbon</li>
<li>(08:23) - Apple Podcasts vs Spotify</li>
<li>(10:20) - Spotify video vs YouTube</li>
<li>(12:02) - Podcasting audio vs video</li>
<li>(14:24) - Advice on starting a podcast</li>
<li>(18:24) - Equipment requirements for guests on podcasts</li>
<li>(21:15) - Having a pre-interview interview</li>
<li>(25:06) - Social media and podcasting challenges</li>
<li>(26:37) - How to grow your audience</li>
<li>(32:18) - How to make money as a podcaster</li>
<li>(36:28) - Being yourself vs having a persona</li>
<li>(38:42) - Monetizing your podcast</li>
<li>(41:11) - What’s missing from RSS</li>
<li>(42:38) - Dan’s non-tech career ideas</li>
<li>(44:40) - Podcast recommendations</li>
<li>(48:12) - Dan’s plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Woodinville Straight Bourbon: <a href="https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/" target="_blank">https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Crafted: <a href="https://crafted.fm" target="_blank">https://crafted.fm</a>
</li>
<li>WNYC: <a href="https://www.wnyc.org/" target="_blank">https://www.wnyc.org/</a>
</li>
<li>NYT: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://www.spotify.com/" target="_blank">https://www.spotify.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Pocket Casts: <a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" target="_blank">https://pocketcasts.com/</a>
</li>
<li>IAB: <a href="https://www.iab.com/" target="_blank">https://www.iab.com/</a>
</li>
<li>National Geographic: <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nationalgeographic.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Shure SM7B: <a href="https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b" target="_blank">https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b</a>
</li>
<li>Focusrite: <a href="https://focusrite.com/" target="_blank">https://focusrite.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Shure MV7: <a href="https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7" target="_blank">https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7</a>
</li>
<li>Elgato: <a href="https://www.elgato.com/" target="_blank">https://www.elgato.com/</a>
</li>
<li>AirPods: <a href="https://www.apple.com/airpods/" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/airpods/</a>
</li>
<li>Audio Technica: <a href="https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/" target="_blank">https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/</a>
</li>
<li>Morning Edition: <a href="https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me" target="_blank">https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me</a>
</li>
<li>Chicago Public Radio: <a href="https://www.wbez.org/" target="_blank">https://www.wbez.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Riverside: <a href="https://riverside.fm/" target="_blank">https://riverside.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/" target="_blank">https://www.tiktok.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Mr. Beast: <a href="https://youtube.com/@mrbeast" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/@mrbeast</a>
</li>
<li>Docker: <a href="https://www.docker.com/" target="_blank">https://www.docker.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Artium: <a href="https://www.thisisartium.com/" target="_blank">https://www.thisisartium.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Jay Clouse: <a href="https://creatorscience.com/" target="_blank">https://creatorscience.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Hark: <a href="https://harkaudio.com/" target="_blank">https://harkaudio.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Syntax: <a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>Hard Fork: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork</a>
</li>
<li>Big Technology with Alex Kantrowitz: <a href="https://www.bigtechnology.com/" target="_blank">https://www.bigtechnology.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Decoder with Nilay Patel: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/decoder" target="_blank">https://www.theverge.com/decoder</a>
</li>
<li>How I Built This: <a href="https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this" target="_blank">https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this</a>
</li>
<li>Acquired: <a href="https://www.acquired.fm/" target="_blank">https://www.acquired.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>Smartless: <a href="https://smartless.com/" target="_blank">https://smartless.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Wondery: <a href="https://wondery.com/" target="_blank">https://wondery.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Sacha Baron Cohen: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen</a>
</li>
<li>Tim Burton: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton</a>
</li>
<li>Beetlejuice: <a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice" target="_blank">https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice</a>
</li>
<li>Darknet Diaries: <a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/" target="_blank">https://darknetdiaries.com/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Dan
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://crafted.fm" target="_blank">https://crafted.fm</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/dblums" target="_blank">https://x.com/dblums</a>
</li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>How to Make a Podcast Worth Listening To with Dan Blumberg</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qeyz7nk1qsd7vrda5jctetr8/xnsg5izr381nmi8vmn0832cy.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3102</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>179</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Dan Blumberg about his journey from radio producer to product manager and podcaster. They explore the art of building great software, podcasting essentials, and the changing landscape of podcast platforms. Plus, Dan shares his kayaking adventures and insights on balancing authenticity and growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:26) - Whiskey review and rating: Woodinville Straight Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:23) - Apple Podcasts vs Spotify&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:20) - Spotify video vs YouTube&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(12:02) - Podcasting audio vs video&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:24) - Advice on starting a podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:24) - Equipment requirements for guests on podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:15) - Having a pre-interview interview&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:06) - Social media and podcasting challenges&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:37) - How to grow your audience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:18) - How to make money as a podcaster&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:28) - Being yourself vs having a persona&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:42) - Monetizing your podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:11) - What’s missing from RSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:38) - Dan’s non-tech career ideas&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:40) - Podcast recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:12) - Dan’s plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Woodinville Straight Bourbon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crafted: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crafted.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crafted.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WNYC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wnyc.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wnyc.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NYT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spotify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pocket Casts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pocketcasts.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pocketcasts.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IAB: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.iab.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure SM7B: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Focusrite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://focusrite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://focusrite.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shure MV7: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elgato: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.elgato.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.elgato.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AirPods: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/airpods/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/airpods/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Audio Technica: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Morning Edition: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chicago Public Radio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wbez.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wbez.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside: &lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://riverside.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TikTok: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tiktok.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mr. Beast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://youtube.com/@mrbeast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://youtube.com/@mrbeast&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Docker: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docker.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.docker.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Artium: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thisisartium.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.thisisartium.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jay Clouse: &lt;a href=&#34;https://creatorscience.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://creatorscience.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://harkaudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://harkaudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hard Fork: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Technology with Alex Kantrowitz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bigtechnology.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bigtechnology.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Decoder with Nilay Patel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.theverge.com/decoder&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.theverge.com/decoder&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How I Built This: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquired: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.acquired.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.acquired.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smartless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://smartless.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://smartless.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sacha Baron Cohen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim Burton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beetlejuice: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries: &lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://darknetdiaries.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Dan
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://crafted.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://crafted.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dblums&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dblums&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qeyz7nk1qsd7vrda5jctetr8/ilpa5s5bmggw2itut43tm7fy/transcoded-01KECKDQ6YNVR139RHD0FRR5Y3-01KECKDQ6Y75A9V6XHGVS84GGZ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Is Cereal Soup?, the FG Scale, and JS vs CSS with Adam Argyle</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Adam Argyle about the quirks of CSS and JavaScript tooling, and modern web development. They discuss why JavaScript often takes center stage over CSS, the funding disparities between them, and what this means for developers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:32) - Whiskey review: Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:54) - Social media and Blue Sky&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:39) - Is cereal soup?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:15) - The Hot Dog and sandwich debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:55) - JavaScript library guilty pleasures&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:40) - CSS vs. JavaScript tooling&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:52) - How Tailwind is funded&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:58) - Politics in business&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:36) - Shotgun debugging and pair programming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:46) - What is the FG scale?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:51) - Robbie’s big Tailwind “FG”&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:16) - CSS carousel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:08) - The complexity of CSS and HTML&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:15) - The importance of accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:08:54) - The problem with AI in CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09:54) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bootstrap: &lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://getbootstrap.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.standardwormwood.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.standardwormwood.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Sky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gray Sky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://graysky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://graysky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lodash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lodash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lodash.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ES6: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monty Python and the Holy Grail: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Manchester Orchestra: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Honeybadger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.honeybadger.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.honeybadger.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Fried: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jasonfried&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jasonfried&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joe Rogan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/joerogan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/joerogan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bernie Sanders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JD Vance: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Panic Playdate: &lt;a href=&#34;https://play.date/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://play.date/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo Switch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: Wine Web and a whole lot of Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/friends/68&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/friends/68&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WAI-ARIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Project Wallace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.projectwallace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.projectwallace.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Product Hunt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.producthunt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.producthunt.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Adam
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9b455d5b-f785-45f6-b6cc-8dcc2c691951</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/e4pyc1y8iy0j388dxu7eb988.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Adam Argyle about the quirks of CSS and JavaScript tooling, and modern web development. They discuss why JavaScript often takes center stage over CSS, the funding disparities between them, and what this means for developers.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:32) - Whiskey review: Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye</li>
<li>(07:54) - Social media and Blue Sky</li>
<li>(09:39) - Is cereal soup?</li>
<li>(11:15) - The Hot Dog and sandwich debate</li>
<li>(17:55) - JavaScript library guilty pleasures</li>
<li>(25:40) - CSS vs. JavaScript tooling</li>
<li>(34:52) - How Tailwind is funded</li>
<li>(35:58) - Politics in business</li>
<li>(41:36) - Shotgun debugging and pair programming</li>
<li>(47:46) - What is the FG scale?</li>
<li>(49:51) - Robbie’s big Tailwind “FG”</li>
<li>(51:16) - CSS carousel</li>
<li>(57:08) - The complexity of CSS and HTML</li>
<li>(01:07:15) - The importance of accessibility</li>
<li>(01:08:54) - The problem with AI in CSS</li>
<li>(01:09:54) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Fresca Mixed: <a href="https://www.frescamixed.com/" target="_blank">https://www.frescamixed.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Bootstrap: <a href="https://getbootstrap.com/" target="_blank">https://getbootstrap.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye: <a href="https://www.standardwormwood.com/" target="_blank">https://www.standardwormwood.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Blue Sky: <a href="https://bsky.app/" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/</a>
</li>
<li>Gray Sky: <a href="https://graysky.app/" target="_blank">https://graysky.app/</a>
</li>
<li>Lodash: <a href="https://lodash.com/" target="_blank">https://lodash.com/</a>
</li>
<li>ES6: <a href="https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp" target="_blank">https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp</a>
</li>
<li>Monty Python and the Holy Grail: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail</a>
</li>
<li>Hot Ones: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones</a>
</li>
<li>Manchester Orchestra: <a href="https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/" target="_blank">https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Typescript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Raspberry Pi: <a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/" target="_blank">https://www.raspberrypi.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Honeybadger: <a href="https://www.honeybadger.io/" target="_blank">https://www.honeybadger.io/</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a>
</li>
<li>PHP: <a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">https://www.php.net/</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
<li>Jason Fried: <a href="https://x.com/jasonfried" target="_blank">https://x.com/jasonfried</a>?</li>
<li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Donald Trump: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump</a>
</li>
<li>Joe Rogan: <a href="https://x.com/joerogan" target="_blank">https://x.com/joerogan</a>
</li>
<li>Bernie Sanders: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders</a>
</li>
<li>JD Vance: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance</a>
</li>
<li>Taco Bell: <a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">https://www.tacobell.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Panic Playdate: <a href="https://play.date/" target="_blank">https://play.date/</a>
</li>
<li>Nintendo Switch: <a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/" target="_blank">https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/</a>
</li>
<li>Changelog: Wine Web and a whole lot of Whatnot: <a href="https://changelog.com/friends/68" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/friends/68</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler/" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler/</a>
</li>
<li>WAI-ARIA: <a href="https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/</a>
</li>
<li>Project Wallace: <a href="https://www.projectwallace.com/" target="_blank">https://www.projectwallace.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Syntax: <a href="https://syntax.fm" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Gemini: <a href="https://gemini.google.com/" target="_blank">https://gemini.google.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Product Hunt: <a href="https://www.producthunt.com/" target="_blank">https://www.producthunt.com/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Adam
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://nerdy.dev" target="_blank">https://nerdy.dev</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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</li>
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</li>
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</li>
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</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Is Cereal Soup?, the FG Scale, and JS vs CSS with Adam Argyle</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/e4pyc1y8iy0j388dxu7eb988/mml5n6l06zpujfu80efmtqay.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4280</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>178</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Adam Argyle about the quirks of CSS and JavaScript tooling, and modern web development. They discuss why JavaScript often takes center stage over CSS, the funding disparities between them, and what this means for developers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:32) - Whiskey review: Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:54) - Social media and Blue Sky&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:39) - Is cereal soup?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:15) - The Hot Dog and sandwich debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:55) - JavaScript library guilty pleasures&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:40) - CSS vs. JavaScript tooling&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:52) - How Tailwind is funded&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:58) - Politics in business&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:36) - Shotgun debugging and pair programming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:46) - What is the FG scale?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:51) - Robbie’s big Tailwind “FG”&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:16) - CSS carousel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:08) - The complexity of CSS and HTML&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:15) - The importance of accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:08:54) - The problem with AI in CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09:54) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca Mixed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frescamixed.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.frescamixed.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bootstrap: &lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://getbootstrap.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Standard Spirit Wormwood Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.standardwormwood.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.standardwormwood.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Sky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gray Sky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://graysky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://graysky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lodash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lodash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lodash.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ES6: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Monty Python and the Holy Grail: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Manchester Orchestra: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manchesterorchestra.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Honeybadger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.honeybadger.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.honeybadger.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Fried: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jasonfried&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jasonfried&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joe Rogan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/joerogan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/joerogan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bernie Sanders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JD Vance: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taco Bell: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tacobell.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Panic Playdate: &lt;a href=&#34;https://play.date/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://play.date/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nintendo Switch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nintendo.com/us/switch/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: Wine Web and a whole lot of Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/friends/68&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/friends/68&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WAI-ARIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/aria/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Project Wallace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.projectwallace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.projectwallace.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gemini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://gemini.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://gemini.google.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Product Hunt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.producthunt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.producthunt.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Adam
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nerdy.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@adamargyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ej1zg40nf70sq6waieie3u2i/thumbnail-ej1zg40nf70sq6waieie3u2i.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ej1zg40nf70sq6waieie3u2i/thumbnail-ej1zg40nf70sq6waieie3u2i.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/e4pyc1y8iy0j388dxu7eb988/mq5dmjhr4u61jv8qip8c2j6i/transcoded-01KECKDZGQQMKYA85NDCJ6Z50T-01KECKDZGQ2PBZRGF5HRTNZATH_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Authenticity in a World of Algorithms</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck dive into the delicate balance between authenticity and adaptation, both in tech and everyday life. They unpack the challenges of staying true to their passions—like whiskey and web development—while navigating the pressures of broadening their appeal and monetizing their craft. They also reflect on podcasting, personal branding, industry trends, social media shifts, and the complexities of dealing with polarizing figures in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:28) - All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:18) - Whiskey: Redwood Empire Emerald Giant Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:29) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:24) - Rebase vs Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:57) - Bluesky vs Twitter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:45) - The political influence on social media&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:18) - Anonymity in social media and usernames&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:44) - What elements should a web framework include?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:15) - Should you be your authentic self all the time?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:58) - The difficulty of monetizing a podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:58) - Commercial real estate and the wig shop&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:04) - Cars and coffee&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:03) - Ghosted by Guillermo?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:24) - Should politics influence the products and tech we use?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:40) - Robbie’s new leaf blower&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:28) - Robbie on Web Dev Challenge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:40) - JavaScript, Ember, and React&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(58:56) - Holiday prep and European living&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood Empire Emerald Giant: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wawa: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wawa.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wawa.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kafka: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kafka.apache.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kafka.apache.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Runspired: &lt;a href=&#34;https://runspired.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://runspired.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook: &lt;a href=&#34;https://facebook.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://facebook.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Instagram: &lt;a href=&#34;https://instagram.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://instagram.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Threads: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.threads.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.threads.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Abramov: &lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Music: &lt;a href=&#34;https://music.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://music.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey.fund: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Devtools: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devtools.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.devtools.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.torc.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.torc.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Torres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tasonjorres&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tasonjorres&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charisma Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sabrina Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lululemon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lululemon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lululemon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Katie’s Cars and Coffee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DeLorean: &lt;a href=&#34;https://delorean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://delorean.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bronco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bugatti Veyron: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starlink.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryobi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ryobitools.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ryobitools.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mailchimp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mailchimp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://mailchimp.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://netflix.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://netflix.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TanStack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;89: Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Clooney: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ca0f929e-fedd-417e-bca7-7cde0426e7db</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yqd0fu3l75cponqjnbvjyyp2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck dive into the delicate balance between authenticity and adaptation, both in tech and everyday life. They unpack the challenges of staying true to their passions—like whiskey and web development—while navigating the pressures of broadening their appeal and monetizing their craft. They also reflect on podcasting, personal branding, industry trends, social media shifts, and the complexities of dealing with polarizing figures in tech.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:28) - All Things Open</li>
<li>(02:18) - Whiskey: Redwood Empire Emerald Giant Rye Whiskey</li>
<li>(07:29) - Whiskey rating</li>
<li>(10:24) - Rebase vs Merge</li>
<li>(10:57) - Bluesky vs Twitter</li>
<li>(17:45) - The political influence on social media</li>
<li>(19:18) - Anonymity in social media and usernames</li>
<li>(23:44) - What elements should a web framework include?</li>
<li>(26:15) - Should you be your authentic self all the time?</li>
<li>(31:58) - The difficulty of monetizing a podcast</li>
<li>(35:58) - Commercial real estate and the wig shop</li>
<li>(40:04) - Cars and coffee</li>
<li>(42:03) - Ghosted by Guillermo?</li>
<li>(44:24) - Should politics influence the products and tech we use?</li>
<li>(48:40) - Robbie’s new leaf blower</li>
<li>(50:28) - Robbie on Web Dev Challenge</li>
<li>(51:40) - JavaScript, Ember, and React</li>
<li>(58:56) - Holiday prep and European living</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Redwood Empire Emerald Giant: <a href="https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/" target="_blank">https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Primeagen: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen</a>
</li>
<li>Maker’s Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Wawa: <a href="https://www.wawa.com/" target="_blank">https://www.wawa.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Sagamore: <a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Bluesky: <a href="https://bsky.app/" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/</a>
</li>
<li>Kafka: <a href="https://kafka.apache.org/" target="_blank">https://kafka.apache.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Runspired: <a href="https://runspired.com/" target="_blank">https://runspired.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Facebook: <a href="https://facebook.com" target="_blank">https://facebook.com</a>
</li>
<li>Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com" target="_blank">https://instagram.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com" target="_blank">https://x.com</a>
</li>
<li>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/" target="_blank">https://www.threads.net/</a>
</li>
<li>Discord: <a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">https://discord.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Dan Abramov: <a href="https://danabra.mov/" target="_blank">https://danabra.mov/</a>
</li>
<li>Amazon Music: <a href="https://music.amazon.com/" target="_blank">https://music.amazon.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Wondery: <a href="https://wondery.com/" target="_blank">https://wondery.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Whiskey.fund: <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>
</li>
<li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a>
</li>
<li>SQLite: <a href="https://www.sqlite.org/" target="_blank">https://www.sqlite.org/</a>
</li>
<li>RedwoodJS: <a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" target="_blank">https://redwoodjs.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com/" target="_blank">https://laravel.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Syntax: <a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>ShopTalk: <a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Changelog: <a href="https://changelog.com/" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/</a>
</li>
<li>How About Tomorrow: <a href="https://tomorrow.fm/" target="_blank">https://tomorrow.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>Devtools: <a href="https://www.devtools.fm/" target="_blank">https://www.devtools.fm/</a>
</li>
<li>Torc: <a href="https://www.torc.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.torc.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Jason Torres: <a href="https://x.com/tasonjorres" target="_blank">https://x.com/tasonjorres</a>
</li>
<li>Sentry: <a href="https://sentry.io" target="_blank">https://sentry.io</a>
</li>
<li>Guillermo Rauch: <a href="https://x.com/rauchg" target="_blank">https://x.com/rauchg</a>
</li>
<li>Charisma Carpenter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter</a>
</li>
<li>John Carpenter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter</a>
</li>
<li>Sabrina Carpenter: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter</a>
</li>
<li>Lululemon: <a href="https://lululemon.com" target="_blank">https://lululemon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Lamborghini: <a href="https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en" target="_blank">https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en</a>
</li>
<li>Donald Trump: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump</a>
</li>
<li>Katie’s Cars and Coffee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee</a>
</li>
<li>Porsche: <a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">https://www.porsche.com/</a>
</li>
<li>DeLorean: <a href="https://delorean.com/" target="_blank">https://delorean.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Bronco: <a href="https://www.ford.com/bronco/" target="_blank">https://www.ford.com/bronco/</a>
</li>
<li>Bugatti Veyron: <a href="https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/" target="_blank">https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/</a>
</li>
<li>Kelly Vaughn: <a href="https://x.com/kvlly" target="_blank">https://x.com/kvlly</a>
</li>
<li>Elon Musk: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk</a>
</li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">https://vercel.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Netlify: <a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">https://www.netlify.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Tesla: <a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">https://www.tesla.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Starlink: <a href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank">https://www.starlink.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ryobi: <a href="https://www.ryobitools.com/" target="_blank">https://www.ryobitools.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Web Dev Challenge: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
<li>Mailchimp: <a href="https://mailchimp.com/" target="_blank">https://mailchimp.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr/" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr/</a>
</li>
<li>Netflix: <a href="https://netflix.com" target="_blank">https://netflix.com</a>
</li>
<li>Supabase: <a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">https://supabase.com/</a>
</li>
<li>TanStack: <a href="https://tanstack.com/" target="_blank">https://tanstack.com/</a>
</li>
<li>89: Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley</a>
</li>
<li>George Clooney: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Authenticity in a World of Algorithms</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yqd0fu3l75cponqjnbvjyyp2/sdl5tsbalnk8l4ganyi5hzv6.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3823</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>177</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck dive into the delicate balance between authenticity and adaptation, both in tech and everyday life. They unpack the challenges of staying true to their passions—like whiskey and web development—while navigating the pressures of broadening their appeal and monetizing their craft. They also reflect on podcasting, personal branding, industry trends, social media shifts, and the complexities of dealing with polarizing figures in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:28) - All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:18) - Whiskey: Redwood Empire Emerald Giant Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:29) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:24) - Rebase vs Merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:57) - Bluesky vs Twitter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:45) - The political influence on social media&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:18) - Anonymity in social media and usernames&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:44) - What elements should a web framework include?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:15) - Should you be your authentic self all the time?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:58) - The difficulty of monetizing a podcast&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:58) - Commercial real estate and the wig shop&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:04) - Cars and coffee&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:03) - Ghosted by Guillermo?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:24) - Should politics influence the products and tech we use?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:40) - Robbie’s new leaf blower&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:28) - Robbie on Web Dev Challenge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:40) - JavaScript, Ember, and React&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(58:56) - Holiday prep and European living&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood Empire Emerald Giant: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/whiskey/emerald-giant-rye/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wawa: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wawa.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wawa.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bluesky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kafka: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kafka.apache.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kafka.apache.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Runspired: &lt;a href=&#34;https://runspired.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://runspired.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook: &lt;a href=&#34;https://facebook.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://facebook.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Instagram: &lt;a href=&#34;https://instagram.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://instagram.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Threads: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.threads.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.threads.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Abramov: &lt;a href=&#34;https://danabra.mov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://danabra.mov/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Music: &lt;a href=&#34;https://music.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://music.amazon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey.fund: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SQLite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Devtools: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devtools.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.devtools.fm/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Torc: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.torc.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.torc.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jason Torres: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tasonjorres&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tasonjorres&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guillermo Rauch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/rauchg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/rauchg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charisma Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sabrina Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lululemon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lululemon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lululemon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lamborghini: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Katie’s Cars and Coffee: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/katies_cars_and_coffee&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DeLorean: &lt;a href=&#34;https://delorean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://delorean.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bronco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bugatti Veyron: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bugatti.com/the-bugatti-heritage/modern-icons/veyron/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starlink.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryobi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ryobitools.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ryobitools.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz8Iz-Fnk_eTkZvSNWXW_TKZ2UwVirT2M&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mailchimp: &lt;a href=&#34;https://mailchimp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://mailchimp.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://netflix.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://netflix.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TanStack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;89: Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-tanstack-and-open-source-with-tanner-linsley&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Clooney: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:49) - Whiskey intro and rating: Cream of Kentucky&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(07:59) - Bing Crosby vs Frank Sinatra&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(09:31) - Real vs fake Christmas trees&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(13:59) - Christmas Story vs Christmas Vacation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(16:34) - Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(18:09) - Are gift cards a good present or just lazy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(20:50) - Robbie’s big news&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:32) - The state of EV&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(27:45) - Investments and crypto&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(33:40) - The results of the State of JS Survey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Podcast merch&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(39:21) - Futbol and food&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:58) - Robbie on Learn with Jason&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:11) - Everybody likes Vite&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(53:13) - Representing your brand&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:02) - Holiday plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Cream of Kentucky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://creamofkentucky.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://creamofkentucky.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bing Crosby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Frank Sinatra: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Balsam Hill Christmas Trees: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;A Christmas Story: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Christmas Vacation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Die Hard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Arnold Schwarzenegger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hallmark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VW Buzz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Doug Demuro’s review of the VW Buzz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rivian: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rivian.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rivian.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chrysler Pacifica: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shiba Inu: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shibatoken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shibatoken.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ethereum: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ethereum.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ethereum.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;XRP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ripple.com/xrp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ripple.com/xrp/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hawk Tuah Coin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;State of JS Survey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stateofjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chris Manson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/real_ate&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jonathan Creamer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jcreamer898&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jcreamer898&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Typecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Telemundo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.telemundo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.telemundo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Manchester United: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manutd.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;David Beckham: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Liverpool FC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Real Madrid: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.realmadrid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.realmadrid.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Node: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nodejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;http://Whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3b4f7a89-c232-4101-904e-7f6fba33eb15</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/n11msayiup1u8wtbimkhcrx0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about Christmas traditions, from sweaters and trees to classic holiday movies and music. They dive into various light-hearted hot takes, holiday preferences, gift-giving etiquette, and more. Along the way, they review a Cream of Kentucky bourbon, discuss JavaScript and API challenges, and share Robbie’s big announcement—twins on the way!</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:49) - Whiskey intro and rating: Cream of Kentucky</li>
 <li>(07:59) - Bing Crosby vs Frank Sinatra</li>
 <li>(09:31) - Real vs fake Christmas trees</li>
  <li>(13:59) - Christmas Story vs Christmas Vacation</li>
  <li>(16:34) - Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?</li>
  <li>(18:09) - Are gift cards a good present or just lazy?</li>
  <li>(20:50) - Robbie’s big news</li>
  <li>(21:32) - The state of EV</li>
  <li>(27:45) - Investments and crypto</li>
  <li>(33:40) - The results of the State of JS Survey</li>
  <li>(38:00) - Podcast merch</li>
  <li>(39:21) - Futbol and food</li>
  <li>(44:58) - Robbie on Learn with Jason</li>
  <li>(50:11) - Everybody likes Vite</li>
  <li>(53:13) - Representing your brand</li>
  <li>(55:02) - Holiday plans</li>
</ul>
<p>Links
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Cream of Kentucky: <a href="https://creamofkentucky.com" target="_blank">https://creamofkentucky.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Bing Crosby: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby</a>
</li>
  <li>Frank Sinatra: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra</a>
</li>
  <li>Jack Daniels: <a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">https://www.jackdaniels.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Balsam Hill Christmas Trees: <a href="https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees" target="_blank">https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees</a>
</li>
  <li>A Christmas Story: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/</a>
</li>
  <li>Christmas Vacation: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/</a>
</li>
  <li>Die Hard: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/</a>
</li>
  <li>Arnold Schwarzenegger: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger</a>
</li>
  <li>Hallmark: <a href="https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/" target="_blank">https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>VW Buzz: <a href="https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html" target="_blank">https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html</a>
</li>
  <li>Doug Demuro’s review of the VW Buzz: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k</a>
</li>
  <li>Rivian: <a href="https://rivian.com/" target="_blank">https://rivian.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Chrysler Pacifica: <a href="https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html" target="_blank">https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html</a>
</li>
  <li>Tesla: <a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">https://www.tesla.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Shiba Inu: <a href="https://shibatoken.com/" target="_blank">https://shibatoken.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Donald Trump: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump</a>
</li>
  <li>Ethereum: <a href="https://ethereum.org/" target="_blank">https://ethereum.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>XRP: <a href="https://ripple.com/xrp/" target="_blank">https://ripple.com/xrp/</a>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
  <li>Hawk Tuah Coin: <a href="https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/" target="_blank">https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/</a>
</li>
  <li>State of JS Survey: <a href="https://stateofjs.com/" target="_blank">https://stateofjs.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Chris Manson: <a href="https://x.com/real_ate" target="_blank">https://x.com/real_ate</a>
</li>
  <li>Jonathan Creamer: <a href="https://x.com/jcreamer898" target="_blank">https://x.com/jcreamer898</a>
</li>
  <li>Syntax: <a href="https://syntax.fm" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a>
</li>
  <li>WordPress: <a href="https://wordpress.org" target="_blank">https://wordpress.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Typecraft: <a href="https://typecraft.dev/" target="_blank">https://typecraft.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Primeagen: <a href="https://x.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">https://x.com/ThePrimeagen</a>
</li>
  <li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
  <li>Telemundo: <a href="https://www.telemundo.com/" target="_blank">https://www.telemundo.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Manchester United: <a href="https://www.manutd.com/" target="_blank">https://www.manutd.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>David Beckham: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham</a>
</li>
  <li>Liverpool FC: <a href="https://www.liverpoolfc.com/" target="_blank">https://www.liverpoolfc.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Real Madrid: <a href="https://www.realmadrid.com/" target="_blank">https://www.realmadrid.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Learn with Jason: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason</a>
</li>
  <li>Netlify: <a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">https://www.netlify.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Node: <a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">https://nodejs.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a>
</li>
  <li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com/</a>
</li>
  <li>Vite: <a href="https://vite.dev/" target="_blank">https://vite.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
  <li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>Shepherd: <a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a>
</li>
  <li>
<a href="http://Whiskey.fm" target="_blank">Whiskey.fm</a>: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
  <li>Whiskey.fund: <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Subscribe and stay in touch
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</li>
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</li>
  <li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
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</li>
</ul>
<p>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
</p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>What Makes a Christmas Movie? Plus, a Toast to New Beginnings</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n11msayiup1u8wtbimkhcrx0/pykvqpujgat3vrlrcyjy1b4w.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3475</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>176</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about Christmas traditions, from sweaters and trees to classic holiday movies and music. They dive into various light-hearted hot takes, holiday preferences, gift-giving etiquette, and more. Along the way, they review a Cream of Kentucky bourbon, discuss JavaScript and API challenges, and share Robbie’s big announcement—twins on the way!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:49) - Whiskey intro and rating: Cream of Kentucky&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(07:59) - Bing Crosby vs Frank Sinatra&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(09:31) - Real vs fake Christmas trees&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(13:59) - Christmas Story vs Christmas Vacation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(16:34) - Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(18:09) - Are gift cards a good present or just lazy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(20:50) - Robbie’s big news&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:32) - The state of EV&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(27:45) - Investments and crypto&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(33:40) - The results of the State of JS Survey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Podcast merch&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(39:21) - Futbol and food&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:58) - Robbie on Learn with Jason&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:11) - Everybody likes Vite&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(53:13) - Representing your brand&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:02) - Holiday plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Cream of Kentucky: &lt;a href=&#34;https://creamofkentucky.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://creamofkentucky.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bing Crosby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_Crosby&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Frank Sinatra: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Balsam Hill Christmas Trees: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.balsamhill.com/c/artificial-christmas-trees&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;A Christmas Story: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Christmas Vacation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097958/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Die Hard: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Arnold Schwarzenegger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hallmark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VW Buzz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-buzz.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Doug Demuro’s review of the VW Buzz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1TsmhSv5k&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rivian: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rivian.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rivian.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chrysler Pacifica: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.chrysler.com/pacifica.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shiba Inu: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shibatoken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shibatoken.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Donald Trump: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ethereum: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ethereum.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ethereum.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;XRP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ripple.com/xrp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ripple.com/xrp/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hawk Tuah Coin: &lt;a href=&#34;https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hawk-tuah/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;State of JS Survey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stateofjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chris Manson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/real_ate&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jonathan Creamer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jcreamer898&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jcreamer898&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Typecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://typecraft.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Primeagen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Telemundo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.telemundo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.telemundo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Manchester United: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manutd.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;David Beckham: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Liverpool FC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Real Madrid: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.realmadrid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.realmadrid.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Node: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nodejs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;http://Whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Whiskey.fund: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kist27oyqadjigkj78usjh74/thumbnail-kist27oyqadjigkj78usjh74.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kist27oyqadjigkj78usjh74/thumbnail-kist27oyqadjigkj78usjh74.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n11msayiup1u8wtbimkhcrx0/co6gxo955kmioi14ybvguaum/transcoded-01KECKCXX1KX8SWZAE2CMPF98R-01KECKCXX18JEJ6Q4H97WD3N5D_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Angie Jones, Head of Developer Relations at TBD, about verifiable credentials, decentralized identity, and the potential of Web 5. They discuss practical applications like mobile driver’s licenses, privacy preservation, as well as the challenges of adopting cutting-edge tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:42) - Whiskey intro and rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:38) - Mobile driver’s licenses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:51) - Identity verification tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:50) - Privacy concerns in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:06) - Digital passports and biometric verification in travel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:39) - Is web 5 the future of decentralization?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Angie’s non-tech career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:03) - Waffle House debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:25) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Block: &lt;a href=&#34;https://block.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://block.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TBD: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tbd.website/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tbd.website/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W3c Verifiable Credentials: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web.mit.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web.mit.edu/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BitTorrent: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bittorrent.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bittorrent.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Photoshop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coinbase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coinbase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coinbase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft Teams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clear: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.clearme.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.clearme.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.uber.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Venmo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://venmo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://venmo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PayPal: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.paypal.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waffle House: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wafflehouse.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wafflehouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelsey Hightower: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Angie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://angiejones.tech&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/techgirl1908&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/techgirl1908&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8afd44e6-9511-478f-b75c-fbf96b4b087e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jqxg6x0k9oax82ee5bqali6z.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Angie Jones, Head of Developer Relations at TBD, about verifiable credentials, decentralized identity, and the potential of Web 5. They discuss practical applications like mobile driver’s licenses, privacy preservation, as well as the challenges of adopting cutting-edge tech.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:42) - Whiskey intro and rating</li>
<li>(08:38) - Mobile driver’s licenses</li>
<li>(16:51) - Identity verification tech</li>
<li>(22:50) - Privacy concerns in tech</li>
<li>(31:06) - Digital passports and biometric verification in travel</li>
<li>(42:39) - Is web 5 the future of decentralization?</li>
<li>(52:06) - Angie’s non-tech career</li>
<li>(54:03) - Waffle House debate</li>
<li>(57:25) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Sagamore: <a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">https://sagamorespirit.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Block: <a href="https://block.xyz/" target="_blank">https://block.xyz/</a>
</li>
<li>TBD: <a href="https://tbd.website/" target="_blank">https://tbd.website/</a>
</li>
<li>W3c Verifiable Credentials: <a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/" target="_blank">https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/</a>
</li>
<li>MIT: <a href="https://web.mit.edu/" target="_blank">https://web.mit.edu/</a>
</li>
<li>BitTorrent: <a href="https://www.bittorrent.com/" target="_blank">https://www.bittorrent.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Photoshop: <a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop" target="_blank">https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop</a>
</li>
<li>Coinbase: <a href="https://www.coinbase.com/" target="_blank">https://www.coinbase.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Microsoft Teams: <a href="https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/" target="_blank">https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/</a>
</li>
<li>Clear: <a href="https://www.clearme.com/" target="_blank">https://www.clearme.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Java: <a href="https://www.java.com/" target="_blank">https://www.java.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Uber: <a href="https://www.uber.com/" target="_blank">https://www.uber.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Venmo: <a href="https://venmo.com/" target="_blank">https://venmo.com/</a>
</li>
<li>PayPal: <a href="https://www.paypal.com/" target="_blank">https://www.paypal.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Waffle House: <a href="https://www.wafflehouse.com/" target="_blank">https://www.wafflehouse.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Kelsey Hightower: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Angie
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://angiejones.tech" target="_blank">https://angiejones.tech</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/techgirl1908" target="_blank">https://x.com/techgirl1908</a>
</li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jqxg6x0k9oax82ee5bqali6z/csmx6z9efvm23xp7iv39bi45.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3552</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>175</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Angie Jones, Head of Developer Relations at TBD, about verifiable credentials, decentralized identity, and the potential of Web 5. They discuss practical applications like mobile driver’s licenses, privacy preservation, as well as the challenges of adopting cutting-edge tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:42) - Whiskey intro and rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:38) - Mobile driver’s licenses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:51) - Identity verification tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:50) - Privacy concerns in tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:06) - Digital passports and biometric verification in travel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:39) - Is web 5 the future of decentralization?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:06) - Angie’s non-tech career&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:03) - Waffle House debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(57:25) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sagamorespirit.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Block: &lt;a href=&#34;https://block.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://block.xyz/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TBD: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tbd.website/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tbd.website/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W3c Verifiable Credentials: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-overview/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web.mit.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web.mit.edu/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BitTorrent: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bittorrent.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bittorrent.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Photoshop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coinbase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coinbase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coinbase.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft Teams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clear: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.clearme.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.clearme.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.java.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.java.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.uber.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Venmo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://venmo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://venmo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PayPal: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.paypal.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waffle House: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wafflehouse.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wafflehouse.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelsey Hightower: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/kelseyhightower.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Angie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://angiejones.tech&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/techgirl1908&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/techgirl1908&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/angiejones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:39) - Wine tasting + review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:15) - Career politics in getting promoted&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:28) - Conference talk + All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:58) - Gluten sensitivity in Europe&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:07) - Pizza, casseroles, and comfort food&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:54) - Movie preferences and watching habits&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:01) - Therapy and mental health&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:13) - Airports and flight experiences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spot AI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spot.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drinks: &lt;a href=&#34;http://Drinks.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Drinks.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bill Paxton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weird Science: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthony Michael Hall: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Hardy Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ender’s Game: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender’s_Game&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fly Bye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ooni: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ooni.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ooni.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario Bros: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Super Mario Bros. Movie: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Pratt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Gaffigan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Delta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.delta.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.delta.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coca-Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Kelly
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kvlly.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kvlly.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader Newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:39) - Wine tasting + review</li>
<li>(10:15) - Career politics in getting promoted</li>
<li>(17:28) - Conference talk + All Things Open</li>
<li>(18:58) - Gluten sensitivity in Europe</li>
<li>(21:07) - Pizza, casseroles, and comfort food</li>
<li>(26:54) - Movie preferences and watching habits</li>
<li>(33:01) - Therapy and mental health</li>
<li>(35:13) - Airports and flight experiences</li>
<li>(38:00) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Spot AI: <a href="https://www.spot.ai/" target="_blank">https://www.spot.ai/</a>
</li>
<li>Drinks: <a href="http://Drinks.com" target="_blank">Drinks.com</a>
</li>
<li>Bill Paxton: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton</a>
</li>
<li>Weird Science: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)</a>
</li>
<li>Anthony Michael Hall: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall</a>
</li>
<li>The Hardy Boys: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys</a>
</li>
<li>Ender’s Game: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender’s_Game</a>
</li>
<li>Sentry: <a href="https://sentry.io" target="_blank">https://sentry.io</a>
</li>
<li>Fly Bye: <a href="https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/" target="_blank">https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/</a>
</li>
<li>Ooni: <a href="https://ooni.com/" target="_blank">https://ooni.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Super Mario Bros: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros</a>.</li>
<li>The Super Mario Bros. Movie: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie</a>
</li>
<li>Chris Pratt: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Render Conf: <a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">https://www.renderatl.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Jim Gaffigan: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan</a>
</li>
<li>Delta: <a href="https://www.delta.com/" target="_blank">https://www.delta.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Coca-Cola: <a href="https://www.coca-cola.com/" target="_blank">https://www.coca-cola.com/</a>
</li>
<li>The Modern Leader: <a href="https://modernleader.is/" target="_blank">https://modernleader.is/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Kelly
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://kvlly.com" target="_blank">https://kvlly.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/kvlly" target="_blank">https://x.com/kvlly</a>
</li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn</a>
</li>
<li>The Modern Leader Newsletter: <a href="https://modernleader.is" target="_blank">https://modernleader.is</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
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</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:39) - Wine tasting + review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:15) - Career politics in getting promoted&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:28) - Conference talk + All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:58) - Gluten sensitivity in Europe&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:07) - Pizza, casseroles, and comfort food&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:54) - Movie preferences and watching habits&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:01) - Therapy and mental health&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:13) - Airports and flight experiences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:00) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spot AI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spot.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drinks: &lt;a href=&#34;http://Drinks.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Drinks.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bill Paxton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weird Science: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anthony Michael Hall: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Michael_Hall&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Hardy Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ender’s Game: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender’s_Game&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fly Bye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.foxrc.com/restaurants/fly-bye-to-go/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ooni: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ooni.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ooni.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario Bros: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Super Mario Bros. Movie: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Super_Mario_Bros._Movie&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Pratt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Pratt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Render Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.renderatl.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Gaffigan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Delta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.delta.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.delta.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coca-Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Kelly
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kvlly.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kvlly.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader Newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yuajybld8lvh0qs520bshhrh/thumbnail-yuajybld8lvh0qs520bshhrh.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yuajybld8lvh0qs520bshhrh/thumbnail-yuajybld8lvh0qs520bshhrh.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/kawbpnqtl8zse5vlqg0psi8x/cajoau0nw8fvu5kwgq5lsf57/transcoded-01KECKDGR1MRP71EZGWSMSYT6F-01KECKDGR1XCEGZW1EHWT6SYRT_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Building Reputation in Tech with Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Changelog’s Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo about content creation and its role in web development careers. They discuss the nuances of reputation-building, the pitfalls of interview culture, and how developers can navigate the ever-changing landscape of tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:43) - Wine tasting + rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:31) - Do web developers need to be content creators?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:35) - Does open source really help your career?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:35) - How to build a good reputation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:05) - Hiring and interviewing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:54) - Fake dev jobs?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:58) - Debating cancel culture&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:56) - Silicon Valley and integrity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:55) - Movies and TV&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:22) - The state of frontend&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:35) - Framework&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:33) - Adam’s and Jerod’s non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:38) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drinks: &lt;a href=&#34;https://drinks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://drinks.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JS Party: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny Boursiquot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jboursiquot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jboursiquot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go Time: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/gotime&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/gotime&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WP Engine: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wpengine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wpengine.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steve Jobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PearAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://trypear.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://trypear.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Succession: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Cox: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gladiator: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joaquin Phoenix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Russell Crowe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Framework: &lt;a href=&#34;https://frame.work/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://frame.work/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Omakub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://omakub.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://omakub.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eminem: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails is having a moment (again): &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/podcast/615&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/podcast/615&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Adam and Jerod
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam on X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamstac&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamstac&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jerod on X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jerodsanto&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jerodsanto&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">032f7a5c-4774-4e48-9423-306bb5804937</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vcbrz1piblx0f5hn9r0m48xd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Changelog’s Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo about content creation and its role in web development careers. They discuss the nuances of reputation-building, the pitfalls of interview culture, and how developers can navigate the ever-changing landscape of tech.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:43) - Wine tasting + rating</li>
<li>(11:31) - Do web developers need to be content creators?</li>
<li>(13:35) - Does open source really help your career?</li>
<li>(15:35) - How to build a good reputation</li>
<li>(20:05) - Hiring and interviewing</li>
<li>(26:54) - Fake dev jobs?</li>
<li>(30:58) - Debating cancel culture</li>
<li>(37:56) - Silicon Valley and integrity</li>
<li>(41:55) - Movies and TV</li>
<li>(44:22) - The state of frontend</li>
<li>(47:35) - Framework</li>
<li>(51:33) - Adam’s and Jerod’s non-tech careers</li>
<li>(54:38) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>ShopTalk Show: <a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Changelog: <a href="https://changelog.com/" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Drinks: <a href="https://drinks.com/" target="_blank">https://drinks.com/</a>
</li>
<li>JS Party: <a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/jsparty</a>
</li>
<li>Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot: <a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty/285" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/jsparty/285</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>LeetCode: <a href="https://leetcode.com/" target="_blank">https://leetcode.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Johnny Boursiquot: <a href="https://x.com/jboursiquot" target="_blank">https://x.com/jboursiquot</a>
</li>
<li>Go Time: <a href="https://changelog.com/gotime" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/gotime</a>
</li>
<li>WP Engine: <a href="https://wpengine.com/" target="_blank">https://wpengine.com/</a>
</li>
<li>WordPress: <a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://wordpress.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Steve Jobs: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs</a>
</li>
<li>PearAI: <a href="https://trypear.ai/" target="_blank">https://trypear.ai/</a>
</li>
<li>Silicon Valley: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>Succession: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>Brian Cox: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)</a>
</li>
<li>Gladiator: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)</a>
</li>
<li>Joaquin Phoenix: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix</a>
</li>
<li>Russell Crowe: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe</a>
</li>
<li>Typescript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org/</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">https://react.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>Kent C. Dodds: <a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">https://kentcdodds.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
<li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
<li>Framework: <a href="https://frame.work/" target="_blank">https://frame.work/</a>
</li>
<li>Omakub: <a href="https://omakub.org/" target="_blank">https://omakub.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Linux: <a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">https://www.linux.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Apple: <a href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Eminem: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem</a>
</li>
<li>Rails is having a moment (again): <a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/615" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/podcast/615</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Adam and Jerod
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://changelog.com" target="_blank">https://changelog.com</a>
</li>
<li>Adam on X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/adamstac" target="_blank">https://x.com/adamstac</a>
</li>
<li>Jerod on X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/jerodsanto" target="_blank">https://x.com/jerodsanto</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Building Reputation in Tech with Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vcbrz1piblx0f5hn9r0m48xd/cec5xjpwcmm1i3di13xa9nwp.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3352</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>173</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Changelog’s Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo about content creation and its role in web development careers. They discuss the nuances of reputation-building, the pitfalls of interview culture, and how developers can navigate the ever-changing landscape of tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:43) - Wine tasting + rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:31) - Do web developers need to be content creators?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:35) - Does open source really help your career?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:35) - How to build a good reputation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:05) - Hiring and interviewing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:54) - Fake dev jobs?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:58) - Debating cancel culture&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:56) - Silicon Valley and integrity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:55) - Movies and TV&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:22) - The state of frontend&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:35) - Framework&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:33) - Adam’s and Jerod’s non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:38) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Changelog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drinks: &lt;a href=&#34;https://drinks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://drinks.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JS Party: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Johnny Boursiquot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jboursiquot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jboursiquot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go Time: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/gotime&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/gotime&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WP Engine: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wpengine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wpengine.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steve Jobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PearAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://trypear.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://trypear.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Silicon Valley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Succession: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Cox: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gladiator: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_(2000_film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joaquin Phoenix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Phoenix&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Russell Crowe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Crowe&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentcdodds.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Framework: &lt;a href=&#34;https://frame.work/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://frame.work/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Omakub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://omakub.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://omakub.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eminem: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails is having a moment (again): &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/podcast/615&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/podcast/615&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Adam and Jerod
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam on X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamstac&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamstac&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jerod on X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jerodsanto&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jerodsanto&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mwbfa891bsybyczg4jgimdwt/thumbnail-mwbfa891bsybyczg4jgimdwt.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mwbfa891bsybyczg4jgimdwt/thumbnail-mwbfa891bsybyczg4jgimdwt.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vcbrz1piblx0f5hn9r0m48xd/lue53ob2vcs4n81gj0f47dr4/transcoded-01KECKCZY2ZTATKZY768P5H0WF-01KECKCZY2925FN9G70K3ZXM4H_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Breaking Down Open-Source Licensing with Carlo Piana</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Carlo Piana about the intricacies of open-source licensing, challenges in enforcing it, sustainability, and the impact of AI on both the tech and legal industries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:37) - Wine tasting&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Open source licensing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:20) - Challenges in open source sustainability&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:47) - Monetization and community contributions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:12) - Choosing the right license&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:32) - Understanding open source AI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:02) - The impact of AI on legal practice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:37) - Futbol and hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:03) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Open Source Initiative: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opensource.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://opensource.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VSCodium: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vscodium.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vscodium.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atom-editor.cc/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atom-editor.cc/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juventus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.juventus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.juventus.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Inter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.inter.it/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ducati: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ducati.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ducati.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Honda CBR 600: &lt;a href=&#34;https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kawasaki 1000: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Carlo
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.piana.eu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.piana.eu/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/carlopiana/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/carlopiana/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">271505cd-5765-4b09-9ce9-a601a7978003</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ykkmhzzf2zmv4xlzbvehni8y.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Carlo Piana about the intricacies of open-source licensing, challenges in enforcing it, sustainability, and the impact of AI on both the tech and legal industries.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:37) - Wine tasting</li>
<li>(08:15) - Open source licensing</li>
<li>(13:20) - Challenges in open source sustainability</li>
<li>(19:47) - Monetization and community contributions</li>
<li>(21:12) - Choosing the right license</li>
<li>(23:32) - Understanding open source AI</li>
<li>(29:02) - The impact of AI on legal practice</li>
<li>(34:37) - Futbol and hobbies</li>
<li>(38:03) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Open Source Initiative: <a href="https://opensource.org/" target="_blank">https://opensource.org/</a>
</li>
<li>VSCodium: <a href="https://vscodium.com/" target="_blank">https://vscodium.com/</a>
</li>
<li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Atom: <a href="https://atom-editor.cc/" target="_blank">https://atom-editor.cc/</a>
</li>
<li>Juventus: <a href="https://www.juventus.com/" target="_blank">https://www.juventus.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Inter: <a href="https://www.inter.it/" target="_blank">https://www.inter.it/</a>
</li>
<li>Ducati: <a href="https://www.ducati.com/" target="_blank">https://www.ducati.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Honda CBR 600: <a href="https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr" target="_blank">https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr</a>
</li>
<li>Kawasaki 1000: <a href="https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs" target="_blank">https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Carlo
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.piana.eu/" target="_blank">https://www.piana.eu/</a>
</li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/carlopiana/" target="_blank">https://x.com/carlopiana/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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</li>
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</li>
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</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Breaking Down Open-Source Licensing with Carlo Piana</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ykkmhzzf2zmv4xlzbvehni8y/r3lyuzrgn1z3lo34ylihmxh4.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2364</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>171</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Carlo Piana about the intricacies of open-source licensing, challenges in enforcing it, sustainability, and the impact of AI on both the tech and legal industries.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:37) - Wine tasting&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(08:15) - Open source licensing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:20) - Challenges in open source sustainability&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:47) - Monetization and community contributions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:12) - Choosing the right license&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:32) - Understanding open source AI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:02) - The impact of AI on legal practice&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:37) - Futbol and hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:03) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Open Source Initiative: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opensource.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://opensource.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VSCodium: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vscodium.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vscodium.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atom-editor.cc/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atom-editor.cc/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juventus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.juventus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.juventus.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Inter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.inter.it/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ducati: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ducati.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ducati.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Honda CBR 600: &lt;a href=&#34;https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/supersport/cbr600rr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kawasaki 1000: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/ninja/sport/ninja-1000-abs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Carlo
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.piana.eu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.piana.eu/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlopiana/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/carlopiana/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/carlopiana/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v5d39c6vgklw410rx12ytxsh/thumbnail-v5d39c6vgklw410rx12ytxsh.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v5d39c6vgklw410rx12ytxsh/thumbnail-v5d39c6vgklw410rx12ytxsh.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ykkmhzzf2zmv4xlzbvehni8y/s6jaochojkqk76xnb5dshrix/transcoded-01KECKCV2FFK83JJNPBF1YG1HD-01KECKCV2FBVJZF1QZZ14XZQS7_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Open-Source Ethics and Monetization with Chris Coyier</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Coyier about the complexities of open-source, balancing community contributions with monetization, the quirks of modern web development, and creative approaches to building sustainable tech projects.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:02) Podcast recording and All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:10) Wine tasting: Brunello di Montalcino Annata 2018&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:41) CSS and styling challenges&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:02) Open source licensing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:24) Feature flags and pricing models&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:28) 90s nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:19) Is open source worth it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:53) Why dev hiring is broken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:21) Famous forks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:26) WordPress drama&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:58) Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RodeCaster Pro II: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-&lt;/a&gt; rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro-ii/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Audigo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.audigolabs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.audigolabs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intro.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://introjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://introjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PostHog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://posthog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://posthog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://Sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaunchDarkly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://launchdarkly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://launchdarkly.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nirvana: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nirvana.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nirvana.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kurt Cobain: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pearl Jam: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pearljam.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pearljam.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coldplay: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coldplay.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coldplay.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Phish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://phish.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://phish.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ray LaMontagne: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raylamontagne.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raylamontagne.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brew.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brew.sh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wufoo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wufoo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wufoo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeCrafters: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codecrafters.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codecrafters.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PearAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://trypear.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://trypear.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://godotengine.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://godotengine.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iojs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Mullenweg: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/photomatt/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/photomatt/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jetpack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jetpack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jetpack.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chris
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chriscoyier.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b2bf1436-b82b-4141-9c6f-a9590d6a154d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/pxdmqo3cimnb8nap8lwrb3l7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Coyier about the complexities of open-source, balancing community contributions with monetization, the quirks of modern web development, and creative approaches to building sustainable tech projects.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) Intro</li>
<li>(01:02) Podcast recording and All Things Open</li>
<li>(04:10) Wine tasting: Brunello di Montalcino Annata 2018</li>
<li>(04:41) CSS and styling challenges</li>
<li>(11:02) Open source licensing</li>
<li>(22:24) Feature flags and pricing models</li>
<li>(27:28) 90s nostalgia</li>
<li>(32:19) Is open source worth it?</li>
<li>(39:53) Why dev hiring is broken</li>
<li>(45:21) Famous forks</li>
<li>(49:26) WordPress drama</li>
<li>(54:58) Plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>RodeCaster Pro II: <a href="https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-" target="_blank">https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-</a> rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro-ii/</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org/" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org/</a>
</li>
<li>ShopTalk Show: <a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">https://shoptalkshow.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Audigo: <a href="https://www.audigolabs.com/" target="_blank">https://www.audigolabs.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Shepherd: <a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev/</a>
</li>
<li>CodePen: <a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">https://codepen.io/</a>
</li>
<li>Intro.js: <a href="https://introjs.com/" target="_blank">https://introjs.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Supabase: <a href="https://supabase.com" target="_blank">https://supabase.com</a>
</li>
<li>PostHog: <a href="https://posthog.com/" target="_blank">https://posthog.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Sentry: <a href="https://Sentry.io/" target="_blank">https://Sentry.io/</a>
</li>
<li>LaunchDarkly: <a href="https://launchdarkly.com/" target="_blank">https://launchdarkly.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Nirvana: <a href="https://www.nirvana.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nirvana.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Kurt Cobain: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/</a>
</li>
<li>Pearl Jam: <a href="https://pearljam.com/" target="_blank">https://pearljam.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Coldplay: <a href="https://www.coldplay.com/" target="_blank">https://www.coldplay.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Phish: <a href="https://phish.com/" target="_blank">https://phish.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ray LaMontagne: <a href="https://www.raylamontagne.com/" target="_blank">https://www.raylamontagne.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>LeetCode: <a href="https://leetcode.com/" target="_blank">https://leetcode.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Homebrew: <a href="https://brew.sh/" target="_blank">https://brew.sh/</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink/" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink/</a>
</li>
<li>Wufoo: <a href="https://www.wufoo.com/" target="_blank">https://www.wufoo.com/</a>
</li>
<li>CodeCrafters: <a href="https://codecrafters.io/" target="_blank">https://codecrafters.io/</a>
</li>
<li>PearAI: <a href="https://trypear.ai/" target="_blank">https://trypear.ai/</a>
</li>
<li>Godot: <a href="https://godotengine.org/" target="_blank">https://godotengine.org/</a>
</li>
<li>iojs: <a href="https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/" target="_blank">https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/</a>
</li>
<li>WordPress: <a href="https://wordpress.org" target="_blank">https://wordpress.org</a>
</li>
<li>Matt Mullenweg: <a href="https://x.com/photomatt/" target="_blank">https://x.com/photomatt/</a>
</li>
<li>Jetpack: <a href="https://jetpack.com/" target="_blank">https://jetpack.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">https://astro.build/</a>
</li>
<li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh/" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chris
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">https://chriscoyier.net/</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/chriscoyier" target="_blank">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a>
</li>
<li>CodePen: <a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">https://codepen.io/</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Open-Source Ethics and Monetization with Chris Coyier</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pxdmqo3cimnb8nap8lwrb3l7/kpe8yob3chk1ceukl73pgwwr.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3406</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>170</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Coyier about the complexities of open-source, balancing community contributions with monetization, the quirks of modern web development, and creative approaches to building sustainable tech projects.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:02) Podcast recording and All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:10) Wine tasting: Brunello di Montalcino Annata 2018&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:41) CSS and styling challenges&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:02) Open source licensing&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(22:24) Feature flags and pricing models&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:28) 90s nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(32:19) Is open source worth it?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:53) Why dev hiring is broken&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:21) Famous forks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:26) WordPress drama&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(54:58) Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RodeCaster Pro II: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rode.com/en-us/interfaces-and-mixers/-&lt;/a&gt; rodecaster-series/rodecaster-pro-ii/&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ShopTalk Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shoptalkshow.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Audigo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.audigolabs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.audigolabs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intro.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://introjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://introjs.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PostHog: &lt;a href=&#34;https://posthog.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://posthog.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://Sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LaunchDarkly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://launchdarkly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://launchdarkly.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nirvana: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nirvana.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nirvana.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kurt Cobain: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pearl Jam: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pearljam.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pearljam.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coldplay: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coldplay.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coldplay.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Phish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://phish.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://phish.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ray LaMontagne: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raylamontagne.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.raylamontagne.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brew.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brew.sh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wufoo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wufoo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wufoo.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeCrafters: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codecrafters.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codecrafters.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PearAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://trypear.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://trypear.ai/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://godotengine.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://godotengine.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iojs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/nodejs/iojs.org/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wordpress.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Mullenweg: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/photomatt/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/photomatt/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jetpack: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jetpack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jetpack.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chris
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chriscoyier.net/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/pi022om3d0ye6ykxb4gfs6zk/thumbnail-pi022om3d0ye6ykxb4gfs6zk.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/pi022om3d0ye6ykxb4gfs6zk/thumbnail-pi022om3d0ye6ykxb4gfs6zk.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pxdmqo3cimnb8nap8lwrb3l7/kuj3k3wonanow03bsw62i2zu/transcoded-01KECKDYP5S8F7AR9Z22JKZWSW-01KECKDYP5T3ZZQC96FKGSPW85_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>FAANG is dead; long live MANAMANA!</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck discuss Fresca’s nostalgic comeback, generalization vs specialization in web dev, the death of FAANG, and the career impact of AI. They also talk about the future of self-driving cars, the relevance of college education, and the ethics around digital media ownership.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:55) - Alcoholic Fresca&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:06) - MANAMANA&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:17) - Blow Pops vs Tootsie Pops&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:30) - Are self-driving cars a good or bad idea?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:32) - How technology is changing education&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:41) - Specialist vs generalist&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:37) - Non-alchoholic Fresca&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:28) - AI and the future&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:43) - Videogames and community&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:53) - Rails vs Django&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:41) - Console gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:24) - How streaming and downloadable media has changed gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:39) - Game development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:22) - Coke products and Costco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coca-Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High Noon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.highnoonspirits.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.highnoonspirits.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;White Claw: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiteclaw.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.whiteclaw.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Long Drink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thelongdrink.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thelongdrink.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://netflix.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://netflix.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alphabet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://abc.xyz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://abc.xyz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVIDIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Muppets: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blow Pop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tootsie Pop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Black Mirror: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Range Rover: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web3.foundation&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web3.foundation&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diablo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://diablo4.blizzard.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tears of the Kingdom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skyrim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Animal Crossing: &lt;a href=&#34;https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pokemon Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pokemongolive.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pokemongolive.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Sims: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fifa.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Need for Speed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Resident Evil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tomb Raider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tombraider.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tombraider.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;.NET: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://dotnet.microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;XBOX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playstation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Stadia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/gg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stadia.google.com/gg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam: &lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://store.steampowered.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gamestop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gamestop.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.gamestop.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Madison
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://madisonkanna.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://madisonkanna.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/madisonkanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/madisonkanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d3ea6465-68db-48b5-a545-0c3a15ec2c15</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/hkxzkpnmjzjkroga222kwxzd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck discuss Fresca’s nostalgic comeback, generalization vs specialization in web dev, the death of FAANG, and the career impact of AI. They also talk about the future of self-driving cars, the relevance of college education, and the ethics around digital media ownership.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:55) - Alcoholic Fresca</li>
<li>(07:06) - MANAMANA</li>
<li>(10:03) - Hot takes</li>
<li>(10:17) - Blow Pops vs Tootsie Pops</li>
<li>(11:30) - Are self-driving cars a good or bad idea?</li>
<li>(16:32) - How technology is changing education</li>
<li>(21:41) - Specialist vs generalist</li>
<li>(27:37) - Non-alchoholic Fresca</li>
<li>(28:28) - AI and the future</li>
<li>(29:43) - Videogames and community</li>
<li>(37:53) - Rails vs Django</li>
<li>(39:41) - Console gaming</li>
<li>(41:24) - How streaming and downloadable media has changed gaming</li>
<li>(46:39) - Game development</li>
<li>(50:22) - Coke products and Costco</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Fresca: <a href="https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda" target="_blank">https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda</a>
</li>
<li>Coca-Cola: <a href="https://www.coca-cola.com" target="_blank">https://www.coca-cola.com</a>
</li>
<li>High Noon: <a href="https://www.highnoonspirits.com" target="_blank">https://www.highnoonspirits.com</a>
</li>
<li>White Claw: <a href="https://www.whiteclaw.com" target="_blank">https://www.whiteclaw.com</a>
</li>
<li>Long Drink: <a href="https://thelongdrink.com" target="_blank">https://thelongdrink.com</a>
</li>
<li>Meta: <a href="https://www.meta.com" target="_blank">https://www.meta.com</a>
</li>
<li>Apple: <a href="https://www.apple.com" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com</a>
</li>
<li>Netflix: <a href="https://netflix.com" target="_blank">https://netflix.com</a>
</li>
<li>Amazon: <a href="https://amazon.com" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Microsoft: <a href="https://microsoft.com" target="_blank">https://microsoft.com</a>
</li>
<li>Alphabet: <a href="https://abc.xyz" target="_blank">https://abc.xyz</a>
</li>
<li>NVIDIA: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com" target="_blank">https://www.nvidia.com</a>
</li>
<li>The Muppets: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets</a>
</li>
<li>Blow Pop: <a href="https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops" target="_blank">https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops</a>
</li>
<li>Tootsie Pop: <a href="https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop" target="_blank">https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop</a>
</li>
<li>Tesla: <a href="https://www.tesla.com" target="_blank">https://www.tesla.com</a>
</li>
<li>Black Mirror: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror</a>
</li>
<li>Range Rover: <a href="https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover" target="_blank">https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover</a>
</li>
<li>Typescript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev" target="_blank">https://react.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com</a>
</li>
<li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org</a>
</li>
<li>Web3: <a href="https://web3.foundation" target="_blank">https://web3.foundation</a>
</li>
<li>Diablo: <a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com" target="_blank">https://diablo4.blizzard.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tears of the Kingdom: <a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom" target="_blank">https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom</a>
</li>
<li>Skyrim: <a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10" target="_blank">https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10</a>
</li>
<li>Animal Crossing: <a href="https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com" target="_blank">https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com</a>
</li>
<li>Pokemon Go: <a href="https://pokemongolive.com" target="_blank">https://pokemongolive.com</a>
</li>
<li>The Sims: <a href="https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims</a>
</li>
<li>FIFA: <a href="https://www.fifa.com" target="_blank">https://www.fifa.com</a>
</li>
<li>Halo: <a href="https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo" target="_blank">https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo</a>
</li>
<li>The Need for Speed: <a href="https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed</a>
</li>
<li>Resident Evil: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil</a>
</li>
<li>Tomb Raider: <a href="https://www.tombraider.com" target="_blank">https://www.tombraider.com</a>
</li>
<li>PHP: <a href="https://www.php.net" target="_blank">https://www.php.net</a>
</li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Python: <a href="https://www.python.org" target="_blank">https://www.python.org</a>
</li>
<li>Ruby: <a href="https://www.ruby-lang.org" target="_blank">https://www.ruby-lang.org</a>
</li>
<li>.NET: <a href="https://dotnet.microsoft.com" target="_blank">https://dotnet.microsoft.com</a>
</li>
<li>XBOX: <a href="https://www.xbox.com" target="_blank">https://www.xbox.com</a>
</li>
<li>Playstation: <a href="https://www.playstation.com" target="_blank">https://www.playstation.com</a>
</li>
<li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr</a>
</li>
<li>How About Tomorrow: <a href="https://tomorrow.fm" target="_blank">https://tomorrow.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Google Stadia: <a href="https://stadia.google.com/gg" target="_blank">https://stadia.google.com/gg</a>
</li>
<li>Analogue: <a href="https://www.analogue.co" target="_blank">https://www.analogue.co</a>
</li>
<li>Minecraft: <a href="https://www.minecraft.net" target="_blank">https://www.minecraft.net</a>
</li>
<li>Steam: <a href="https://store.steampowered.com" target="_blank">https://store.steampowered.com</a>
</li>
<li>EA: <a href="https://www.ea.com" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com</a>
</li>
<li>Gamestop: <a href="https://www.gamestop.com" target="_blank">https://www.gamestop.com</a>
</li>
<li>Costco: <a href="https://www.costco.com" target="_blank">https://www.costco.com</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Madison
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://madisonkanna.com" target="_blank">https://madisonkanna.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/madisonkanna" target="_blank">https://x.com/madisonkanna</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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</li>
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</li>
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</li>
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</li>
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>FAANG is dead; long live MANAMANA!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hkxzkpnmjzjkroga222kwxzd/n2upq6gnecysb5un10pt14ny.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3662</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>169</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck discuss Fresca’s nostalgic comeback, generalization vs specialization in web dev, the death of FAANG, and the career impact of AI. They also talk about the future of self-driving cars, the relevance of college education, and the ethics around digital media ownership.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:55) - Alcoholic Fresca&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:06) - MANAMANA&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:17) - Blow Pops vs Tootsie Pops&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(11:30) - Are self-driving cars a good or bad idea?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:32) - How technology is changing education&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(21:41) - Specialist vs generalist&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:37) - Non-alchoholic Fresca&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:28) - AI and the future&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:43) - Videogames and community&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:53) - Rails vs Django&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:41) - Console gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:24) - How streaming and downloadable media has changed gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:39) - Game development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:22) - Coke products and Costco&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fresca: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/fresca-sparkling-soda&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coca-Cola: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.coca-cola.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High Noon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.highnoonspirits.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.highnoonspirits.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;White Claw: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiteclaw.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.whiteclaw.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Long Drink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thelongdrink.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thelongdrink.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://netflix.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://netflix.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alphabet: &lt;a href=&#34;https://abc.xyz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://abc.xyz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NVIDIA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Muppets: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blow Pop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Blow_Pops&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tootsie Pop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://the-candy-encyclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tootsie_Pop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tesla.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Black Mirror: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Range Rover: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.landroverusa.com/range-rover&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web3.foundation&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web3.foundation&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diablo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://diablo4.blizzard.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tears of the Kingdom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skyrim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim10&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Animal Crossing: &lt;a href=&#34;https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://animalcrossing.nintendo.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pokemon Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://pokemongolive.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://pokemongolive.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Sims: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.fifa.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Need for Speed: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/need-for-speed&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Resident Evil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tomb Raider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tombraider.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tombraider.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.python.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;.NET: &lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://dotnet.microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;XBOX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.xbox.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playstation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.playstation.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Stadia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/gg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stadia.google.com/gg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Analogue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Minecraft: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.minecraft.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam: &lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://store.steampowered.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gamestop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gamestop.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.gamestop.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.costco.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Madison
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://madisonkanna.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://madisonkanna.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/madisonkanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/madisonkanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hkxzkpnmjzjkroga222kwxzd/ztdqntccrusw05u45gx25jyf/transcoded-01KECKCY662YMJWTQH58F5EKRS-01KECKCY66VP2WNBXPRHVGXZF3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Building a Better Web: Open Source, Simplicity, and Speed with Jason Lengstorf</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Jason Lengstorf about the evolving world of web development and the challenges of open-source monetization. They share insights on simplifying tech stacks, choosing the right tools, and some often-overlooked trade-offs in today’s development landscape.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:24) - Whiskey: Kentucky Owl St. Patrick’s Edition&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(10:09) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(25:44) - Favorites from “Learn with Jason”: Vinxi, Waku&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(29:01) - Astro and monetizing open source projects&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(34:57) - The importance of simplicity&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(41:52) - Email etiquette&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(45:36) - On issues with email&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(47:11) - Personal style and professional image&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(53:52) - Talking about getting older&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(56:36) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kentucky Owl: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Roka Akor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rokaakor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rokaakor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1910: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Amazon Q: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/q&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/q&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supermaven: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supermaven.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supermaven.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge S1E6: Build an app to capture memories: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hetzner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hetzner.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hetzner.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Digial Ocean: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.digitalocean.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vinxi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vinxi.vercel.app&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vinxi.vercel.app&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Waku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://waku.gg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://waku.gg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Daishi Kato: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dai_shi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dai_shi&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nitro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nitro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nitro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;SolidStart: &lt;a href=&#34;https://start.solidjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://start.solidjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TanStack Start: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/start/latest&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/start/latest&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OpenNext: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opennext.js.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://opennext.js.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nx: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nx.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nx.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Babel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://babeljs.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://babeljs.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Steve Jobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Barack Obama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Fits: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Birdcage: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kanye West: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Balenciaga: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.balenciaga.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.balenciaga.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Poshmark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://poshmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://poshmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Jason
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">2df6c9e6-a713-4f73-bd21-f12263a22dd9</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/e3sz7vcuvg3z4qrsay71b8jr.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Jason Lengstorf about the evolving world of web development and the challenges of open-source monetization. They share insights on simplifying tech stacks, choosing the right tools, and some often-overlooked trade-offs in today’s development landscape.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(03:24) - Whiskey: Kentucky Owl St. Patrick’s Edition</li>
 <li>(10:09) - Hot takes</li>
 <li>(25:44) - Favorites from “Learn with Jason”: Vinxi, Waku</li>
 <li>(29:01) - Astro and monetizing open source projects</li>
 <li>(34:57) - The importance of simplicity</li>
 <li>(41:52) - Email etiquette</li>
 <li>(45:36) - On issues with email</li>
 <li>(47:11) - Personal style and professional image</li>
 <li>(53:52) - Talking about getting older</li>
  <li>(56:36) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p>Links
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Kentucky Owl: <a href="https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition" target="_blank">https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition</a>
</li>
  <li>Roka Akor: <a href="https://rokaakor.com" target="_blank">https://rokaakor.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Old Forester 1910: <a href="https://www.oldforester.com" target="_blank">https://www.oldforester.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
  <li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Cursor: <a href="https://www.cursor.com" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a>
</li>
  <li>Amazon Q: <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/q" target="_blank">https://aws.amazon.com/q</a>
</li>
  <li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://chatgpt.com" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Supermaven: <a href="https://supermaven.com" target="_blank">https://supermaven.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com" target="_blank">https://laravel.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Web Dev Challenge S1E6: Build an app to capture memories: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA</a>
</li>
  <li>Supabase: <a href="https://supabase.com" target="_blank">https://supabase.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Hetzner: <a href="https://www.hetzner.com" target="_blank">https://www.hetzner.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Digial Ocean: <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com" target="_blank">https://www.digitalocean.com</a>
</li>
  <li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh</a>
</li>
  <li>Learn with Jason: <a href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev" target="_blank">https://www.learnwithjason.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Vinxi: <a href="https://vinxi.vercel.app" target="_blank">https://vinxi.vercel.app</a>
</li>
  <li>Waku: <a href="https://waku.gg" target="_blank">https://waku.gg</a>
</li>
  <li>Daishi Kato: <a href="https://x.com/dai_shi" target="_blank">https://x.com/dai_shi</a>
</li>
  <li>Vite: <a href="https://vite.dev" target="_blank">https://vite.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Nitro: <a href="https://nitro.build" target="_blank">https://nitro.build</a>
</li>
  <li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org</a>
</li>
  <li>SolidStart: <a href="https://start.solidjs.com" target="_blank">https://start.solidjs.com</a>
</li>
  <li>TanStack Start: <a href="https://tanstack.com/start/latest" target="_blank">https://tanstack.com/start/latest</a>
</li>
  <li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build" target="_blank">https://astro.build</a>
</li>
  <li>OpenNext: <a href="https://opennext.js.org" target="_blank">https://opennext.js.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Nx: <a href="https://nx.dev" target="_blank">https://nx.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Babel: <a href="https://babeljs.io" target="_blank">https://babeljs.io</a>
</li>
  <li>HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org" target="_blank">https://htmx.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Steve Jobs: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs</a>
</li>
  <li>Barack Obama: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama</a>
</li>
  <li>Big Fits: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1</a>
</li>
  <li>The Birdcage: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage</a>
</li>
  <li>Kanye West: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West</a>
</li>
  <li>Balenciaga: <a href="https://www.balenciaga.com" target="_blank">https://www.balenciaga.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Poshmark: <a href="https://poshmark.com" target="_blank">https://poshmark.com</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Connect with Jason
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Website: <a href="https://jason.energy" target="_blank">https://jason.energy</a>
</li>
  <li>Learn with Jason: <a href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev" target="_blank">https://www.learnwithjason.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a>
</li>
  <li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Connect with Chuck and Robbie
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Subscribe and stay in touch
</p>
<ul>
  <li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
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</li>
  <li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
  <li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
  <li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Building a Better Web: Open Source, Simplicity, and Speed with Jason Lengstorf</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/e3sz7vcuvg3z4qrsay71b8jr/drbwzzdfq189cz2ykyhn2jya.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3471</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>168</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Jason Lengstorf about the evolving world of web development and the challenges of open-source monetization. They share insights on simplifying tech stacks, choosing the right tools, and some often-overlooked trade-offs in today’s development landscape.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:24) - Whiskey: Kentucky Owl St. Patrick’s Edition&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(10:09) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(25:44) - Favorites from “Learn with Jason”: Vinxi, Waku&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(29:01) - Astro and monetizing open source projects&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(34:57) - The importance of simplicity&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(41:52) - Email etiquette&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(45:36) - On issues with email&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(47:11) - Personal style and professional image&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(53:52) - Talking about getting older&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(56:36) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kentucky Owl: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/shop/st-patricks-edition&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Roka Akor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rokaakor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rokaakor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1910: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Amazon Q: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/q&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com/q&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supermaven: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supermaven.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supermaven.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Web Dev Challenge S1E6: Build an app to capture memories: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_3fBgvPA&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hetzner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hetzner.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hetzner.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Digial Ocean: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.digitalocean.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vinxi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vinxi.vercel.app&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vinxi.vercel.app&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Waku: &lt;a href=&#34;https://waku.gg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://waku.gg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Daishi Kato: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dai_shi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dai_shi&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vite.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vite.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nitro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nitro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nitro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;SolidStart: &lt;a href=&#34;https://start.solidjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://start.solidjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TanStack Start: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/start/latest&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tanstack.com/start/latest&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OpenNext: &lt;a href=&#34;https://opennext.js.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://opennext.js.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nx: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nx.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nx.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Babel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://babeljs.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://babeljs.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Steve Jobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Barack Obama: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Fits: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/bigfits1&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Birdcage: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birdcage&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kanye West: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Balenciaga: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.balenciaga.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.balenciaga.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Poshmark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://poshmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://poshmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Jason
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jason.energy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jason.energy&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Learn with Jason: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.learnwithjason.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v8dsk8a8qpvzsqfe93byqbmg/thumbnail-v8dsk8a8qpvzsqfe93byqbmg.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v8dsk8a8qpvzsqfe93byqbmg/thumbnail-v8dsk8a8qpvzsqfe93byqbmg.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/e3sz7vcuvg3z4qrsay71b8jr/izp5nbgy8b8376h05vrve49w/transcoded-01KECKDW17Y5DV5FC9A77TED3V-01KECKDW178J57HV7ZY1MFRRB0_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Live from THAT Conf: Web Frameworks and Developer Experience with James Quick</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this live episode from THAT Conference, Robbie and Chuck talk with James Quick about his journey as a developer and content creator. Over a Scottish single malt, they discuss frameworks like Astro and Redwood, the evolution of React, and the importance of developer experience in modern web development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:21) - Meet James Quick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:03) - Whiskey: Auchentoshan 12 Year&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:12) - Lukewarm takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:23) - Frameworks and developer experience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:45) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:18) - Astro and future of web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:31) - Versel pricing and AWS abstraction&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:47) - Balancing parenthood and tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:59) - Twitter Controversies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:05) - Soccer and staying active&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:33) - Alternative careers and hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:43) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James Quick: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesqquick.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Auchentoshan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.auchentoshan.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.auchentoshan.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;THAT Conference: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thatconference.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.thatconference.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://remix.run&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.prisma.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AWS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cloudflare: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudflare.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cassidy Williams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cassidoo.co&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cassidoo.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with James
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesqquick.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jamesqquick&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jamesqquick&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro Course: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astrocourse.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astrocourse.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1b4cffd4-c263-4963-a7f9-d9f3c09678cc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ht70t08fkf24hfpxjw8tlo1x.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this live episode from THAT Conference, Robbie and Chuck talk with James Quick about his journey as a developer and content creator. Over a Scottish single malt, they discuss frameworks like Astro and Redwood, the evolution of React, and the importance of developer experience in modern web development.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:21) - Meet James Quick</li>
<li>(03:03) - Whiskey: Auchentoshan 12 Year</li>
<li>(10:12) - Lukewarm takes</li>
<li>(18:23) - Frameworks and developer experience</li>
<li>(25:45) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>(26:18) - Astro and future of web development</li>
<li>(29:31) - Versel pricing and AWS abstraction</li>
<li>(33:47) - Balancing parenthood and tech careers</li>
<li>(35:59) - Twitter Controversies</li>
<li>(40:05) - Soccer and staying active</li>
<li>(47:33) - Alternative careers and hobbies</li>
<li>(53:43) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>James Quick: <a href="https://www.jamesqquick.com" target="_blank">https://www.jamesqquick.com</a>
</li>
<li>Auchentoshan: <a href="https://www.auchentoshan.com" target="_blank">https://www.auchentoshan.com</a>
</li>
<li>THAT Conference: <a href="https://www.thatconference.com" target="_blank">https://www.thatconference.com</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build" target="_blank">https://astro.build</a>
</li>
<li>RedwoodJS: <a href="https://redwoodjs.com" target="_blank">https://redwoodjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev" target="_blank">https://react.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org</a>
</li>
<li>Remix: <a href="https://remix.run" target="_blank">https://remix.run</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>Prisma: <a href="https://www.prisma.io" target="_blank">https://www.prisma.io</a>
</li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com" target="_blank">https://vercel.com</a>
</li>
<li>AWS: <a href="https://aws.amazon.com" target="_blank">https://aws.amazon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Netlify: <a href="https://www.netlify.com" target="_blank">https://www.netlify.com</a>
</li>
<li>Cloudflare: <a href="https://www.cloudflare.com" target="_blank">https://www.cloudflare.com</a>
</li>
<li>GitHub: <a href="https://github.com" target="_blank">https://github.com</a>
</li>
<li>Apple: <a href="https://www.apple.com" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ember.js: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Django: <a href="https://www.djangoproject.com" target="_blank">https://www.djangoproject.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ruby on Rails: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org</a>
</li>
<li>Discord: <a href="https://discord.com" target="_blank">https://discord.com</a>
</li>
<li>Cassidy Williams: <a href="https://cassidoo.co" target="_blank">https://cassidoo.co</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with James
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.jamesqquick.com" target="_blank">https://www.jamesqquick.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/jamesqquick" target="_blank">https://x.com/jamesqquick</a>
</li>
<li>Astro Course: <a href="https://astrocourse.dev" target="_blank">https://astrocourse.dev</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
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</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
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</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Live from THAT Conf: Web Frameworks and Developer Experience with James Quick</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ht70t08fkf24hfpxjw8tlo1x/mek2b3d4rjic8dr3mt9aia0q.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3274</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>167</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this live episode from THAT Conference, Robbie and Chuck talk with James Quick about his journey as a developer and content creator. Over a Scottish single malt, they discuss frameworks like Astro and Redwood, the evolution of React, and the importance of developer experience in modern web development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:21) - Meet James Quick&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:03) - Whiskey: Auchentoshan 12 Year&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:12) - Lukewarm takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:23) - Frameworks and developer experience&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(25:45) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:18) - Astro and future of web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:31) - Versel pricing and AWS abstraction&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:47) - Balancing parenthood and tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(35:59) - Twitter Controversies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:05) - Soccer and staying active&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:33) - Alternative careers and hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:43) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James Quick: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesqquick.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Auchentoshan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.auchentoshan.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.auchentoshan.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;THAT Conference: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thatconference.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.thatconference.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://redwoodjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix: &lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://remix.run&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.prisma.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AWS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://aws.amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cloudflare: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cloudflare.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Django: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.djangoproject.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cassidy Williams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://cassidoo.co&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://cassidoo.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with James
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesqquick.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jamesqquick&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jamesqquick&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro Course: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astrocourse.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astrocourse.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tacr0iooc9u6lw1uf2gleg87/thumbnail-tacr0iooc9u6lw1uf2gleg87.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tacr0iooc9u6lw1uf2gleg87/thumbnail-tacr0iooc9u6lw1uf2gleg87.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ht70t08fkf24hfpxjw8tlo1x/glqkjx0eocpmzub0k570nig7/transcoded-01KECKDXY0NZ2B0MHT77MK77HQ-01KECKDXY04R96REMDC6VRDKP3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Front-end Adventures with Bad at CSS&#39; David East and Adam Argyle</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck welcome Adam Argyle and David East from the Bad at CSS podcast, for a fun conversation about their favorite dev tools and the finer points of CSS. They discuss code editors, environment setups, AI-enhanced development, and the ongoing battle for coding supremacy between various tools and languages.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:02) - Whiskey: Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:40) - CSS game&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:15) - AI, code editors, and dev environments&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:15) - Nix Registry and dependency management&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:24) - Rebase vs merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:04) - Git tools and preferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:22) - Dog stories and Roomba mishaps&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:36) - CSS4 and the future of CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:03:08) - Virtualized lists and data tables&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:09) - Podcast plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://badatcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bad at CSS podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/_davideast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David East&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://idx.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;IDX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;All Things Open&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/ragnarok&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mikeshothoney.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mike’s Hot Honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laravel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fluxui.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/calebporzio&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Caleb Porzio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DHH&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nixos.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NixOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nix.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nix.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Python&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Postgres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docker.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Docker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jeffbcross&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cross&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/teachers/the-primeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irobot.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roomba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/CSS-Next/css-next&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CSS Next Community Group&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Typescript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Terminal Coffee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">316ed174-f900-44a7-b382-78c027bde541</guid><pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yu6rk2vgxlqb4lyrzuq12ns8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck welcome Adam Argyle and David East from the Bad at CSS podcast, for a fun conversation about their favorite dev tools and the finer points of CSS. They discuss code editors, environment setups, AI-enhanced development, and the ongoing battle for coding supremacy between various tools and languages.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:02) - Whiskey: Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye</li>
<li>(16:40) - CSS game</li>
<li>(29:03) - Hot takes</li>
<li>(33:15) - AI, code editors, and dev environments</li>
<li>(37:15) - Nix Registry and dependency management</li>
<li>(41:24) - Rebase vs merge</li>
<li>(46:04) - Git tools and preferences</li>
<li>(50:22) - Dog stories and Roomba mishaps</li>
<li>(53:36) - CSS4 and the future of CSS</li>
<li>(01:03:08) - Virtualized lists and data tables</li>
<li>(01:07:09) - Podcast plug</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li><a href="https://badatcss.com" target="_blank">Bad at CSS podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank">Adam Argyle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/_davideast" target="_blank">David East</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://firebase.google.com" target="_blank">Firebase</a></li>
<li><a href="https://idx.dev" target="_blank">IDX</a></li>
<li><a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">All Things Open</a></li>
<li><a href="https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/ragnarok" target="_blank">Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom" target="_blank">Tears of the Kingdom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://mikeshothoney.com" target="_blank">Mike’s Hot Honey</a></li>
<li><a href="https://syntax.fm" target="_blank">Syntax</a></li>
<li><a href="https://laravel.com" target="_blank">Laravel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org" target="_blank">Rails</a></li>
<li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com" target="_blank">AWS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fluxui.dev" target="_blank">Flux</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/calebporzio" target="_blank">Caleb Porzio</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/dhh" target="_blank">DHH</a></li>
<li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com" target="_blank">VS Code</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nixos.org" target="_blank">NixOS</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nix.dev" target="_blank">Nix.dev</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.python.org" target="_blank">Python</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com" target="_blank">Github</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.postgresql.org" target="_blank">Postgres</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.docker.com" target="_blank">Docker</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/jeffbcross" target="_blank">Jeff Cross</a></li>
<li><a href="https://boot.dev" target="_blank">Boot.dev</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.boot.dev/teachers/the-primeagen" target="_blank">Primeagen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nuxt.com" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.irobot.com" target="_blank">Roomba</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/CSS-Next/css-next" target="_blank">CSS Next Community Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org" target="_blank">Typescript</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.terminal.shop" target="_blank">Terminal Coffee</a></li>
<li><a href="https://x.com/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax</a></li>
<li><a href="https://vercel.com" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
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</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Front-end Adventures with Bad at CSS&#39; David East and Adam Argyle</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yu6rk2vgxlqb4lyrzuq12ns8/h7gx96zojixuyv967rhweu6j.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4402</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>166</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck welcome Adam Argyle and David East from the Bad at CSS podcast, for a fun conversation about their favorite dev tools and the finer points of CSS. They discuss code editors, environment setups, AI-enhanced development, and the ongoing battle for coding supremacy between various tools and languages.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(05:02) - Whiskey: Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(16:40) - CSS game&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:15) - AI, code editors, and dev environments&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(37:15) - Nix Registry and dependency management&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:24) - Rebase vs merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(46:04) - Git tools and preferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(50:22) - Dog stories and Roomba mishaps&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:36) - CSS4 and the future of CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:03:08) - Virtualized lists and data tables&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:09) - Podcast plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://badatcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bad at CSS podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/_davideast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David East&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://idx.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;IDX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;All Things Open&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/ragnarok&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Catoctin Creek Ragnarok Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mikeshothoney.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mike’s Hot Honey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laravel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fluxui.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/calebporzio&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Caleb Porzio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DHH&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nixos.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NixOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nix.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nix.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.python.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Python&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Postgres&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.docker.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Docker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jeffbcross&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cross&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/teachers/the-primeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irobot.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roomba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/CSS-Next/css-next&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CSS Next Community Group&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Typescript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.terminal.shop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Terminal Coffee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/cbzjuf10n867giuv9rv212om/thumbnail-cbzjuf10n867giuv9rv212om.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/cbzjuf10n867giuv9rv212om/thumbnail-cbzjuf10n867giuv9rv212om.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yu6rk2vgxlqb4lyrzuq12ns8/ovushsd7qq55g7mck3fc129h/transcoded-01KECKD26KV6GFMQVAZ6AVSRM4-01KECKD26KMSNDXG71N368MENV_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Shepherd.js, the Future of Open Source, Capitalism, and Corporate Responsibility</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck sip on some Stranahan’s Second Chance Single Barrel Colorado Whiskey, and explore a variety of topics, from new tech to health. They discuss the future of open-source libraries like Shepherd.js and its transition from a developer tool to a potential SaaS product, as well as the challenges of scaling such products, and the importance of community support and clear business strategies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:24) - Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:45) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:12) - The struggles of open source SaaS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:48) - Developer-centric approach to Shepherd.js&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:06) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:35) - Branding and business ventures&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:45) - Robbie returns to the office&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:54) - Supplements and regulations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:14) - Changes at Amazon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:26) - Robbie’s Amazon/AWS theory&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:27) - Ethics and wealth in corporate America&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:04) - Halloween plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Watch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/watch&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/watch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aged &amp;amp; Ore Travel Bundle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stranahans.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stranahans.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Del Bach American Single Malt Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeydelbac.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskeydelbac.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intro.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://introjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://introjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Driver.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://driverjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://driverjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad at CSS podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://badatcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://badatcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carson Gross: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Temu: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.temu.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.temu.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All or Nothing: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harry Potter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.harrypotter.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.harrypotter.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Michelle
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michellebakels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michellebakels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/michellebakels&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/michellebakels&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3b4d36cb-08ff-4ae4-b597-bb467b174d6a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2024 07:07:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/oyyzv9wsiq8muh9zxh1ub0yf.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck sip on some Stranahan’s Second Chance Single Barrel Colorado Whiskey, and explore a variety of topics, from new tech to health. They discuss the future of open-source libraries like Shepherd.js and its transition from a developer tool to a potential SaaS product, as well as the challenges of scaling such products, and the importance of community support and clear business strategies.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:24) - Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey</li>
<li>(07:45) - Whiskey rating</li>
<li>(13:12) - The struggles of open source SaaS</li>
<li>(19:48) - Developer-centric approach to Shepherd.js</li>
<li>(29:06) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>(31:35) - Branding and business ventures</li>
<li>(33:45) - Robbie returns to the office</li>
<li>(36:54) - Supplements and regulations</li>
<li>(39:14) - Changes at Amazon</li>
<li>(42:26) - Robbie’s Amazon/AWS theory</li>
<li>(44:27) - Ethics and wealth in corporate America</li>
<li>(55:04) - Halloween plans</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Apple Watch: <a href="https://www.apple.com/watch" target="_blank">https://www.apple.com/watch</a>
</li>
<li>Aged &amp; Ore Travel Bundle: <a href="https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle" target="_blank">https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle</a>
</li>
<li>Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey: <a href="https://stranahans.com" target="_blank">https://stranahans.com</a>
</li>
<li>Del Bach American Single Malt Whiskey: <a href="https://whiskeydelbac.com" target="_blank">https://whiskeydelbac.com</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org</a>
</li>
<li>Shepherd.js: <a href="https://www.shepherdjs.dev" target="_blank">https://www.shepherdjs.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Intro.js: <a href="https://introjs.com" target="_blank">https://introjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Driver.js: <a href="https://driverjs.com" target="_blank">https://driverjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>Supabase: <a href="https://supabase.com" target="_blank">https://supabase.com</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink</a>
</li>
<li>Bad at CSS podcast: <a href="https://badatcss.com" target="_blank">https://badatcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>CSS podcast: <a href="https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com" target="_blank">https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com</a>
</li>
<li>Big Sky Dev Con: <a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com/</a>
</li>
<li>Carson Gross: <a href="https://x.com/htmx_org" target="_blank">https://x.com/htmx_org</a>
</li>
<li>HTMX: <a href="https://htmx.org" target="_blank">https://htmx.org</a>
</li>
<li>Amazon: <a href="https://amazon.com" target="_blank">https://amazon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Temu: <a href="https://www.temu.com" target="_blank">https://www.temu.com</a>
</li>
<li>All or Nothing: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7</a>
</li>
<li>The Boys: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF</a>
</li>
<li>Harry Potter: <a href="https://www.harrypotter.com" target="_blank">https://www.harrypotter.com</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Michelle
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.michellebakels.com" target="_blank">https://www.michellebakels.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/michellebakels" target="_blank">https://x.com/michellebakels</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Shepherd.js, the Future of Open Source, Capitalism, and Corporate Responsibility</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oyyzv9wsiq8muh9zxh1ub0yf/rrkpv2m148bbk2bxk7cfwqq7.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3636</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>165</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck sip on some Stranahan’s Second Chance Single Barrel Colorado Whiskey, and explore a variety of topics, from new tech to health. They discuss the future of open-source libraries like Shepherd.js and its transition from a developer tool to a potential SaaS product, as well as the challenges of scaling such products, and the importance of community support and clear business strategies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:24) - Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(07:45) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:12) - The struggles of open source SaaS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:48) - Developer-centric approach to Shepherd.js&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:06) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:35) - Branding and business ventures&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:45) - Robbie returns to the office&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:54) - Supplements and regulations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:14) - Changes at Amazon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:26) - Robbie’s Amazon/AWS theory&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:27) - Ethics and wealth in corporate America&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:04) - Halloween plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Watch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/watch&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.apple.com/watch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aged &amp;amp; Ore Travel Bundle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://agedandore.com/products/travel-bundle&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stranahan’s Second Chance Single-Barrel Colorado Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stranahans.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stranahans.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Del Bach American Single Malt Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeydelbac.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskeydelbac.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shepherd.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shepherdjs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.shepherdjs.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Intro.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://introjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://introjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Driver.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://driverjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://driverjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://supabase.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad at CSS podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://badatcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://badatcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carson Gross: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTMX: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://amazon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Temu: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.temu.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.temu.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All or Nothing: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/All-or-Nothing/dp/B086HVHRR7&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLWVYPXF&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harry Potter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.harrypotter.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.harrypotter.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Michelle
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michellebakels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michellebakels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/michellebakels&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/michellebakels&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/azsfieis7b4mz8b6fi4qoh1w/thumbnail-azsfieis7b4mz8b6fi4qoh1w.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/azsfieis7b4mz8b6fi4qoh1w/thumbnail-azsfieis7b4mz8b6fi4qoh1w.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oyyzv9wsiq8muh9zxh1ub0yf/ha4bxse9lt3lad4olwrbp1la/transcoded-01KECKE10507GDZYN05P9WHH1K-01KECKE105N6N5DPHJ22VEHVVS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From Frontend to Backend: Lane Wagner&#39;s Journey to Boot.dev</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Lane Wanger, the creator of Boot.dev, about his journey to backend development and launching Boot.dev. They discuss the state of developer education, how advanced developers can level up, and the importance of fundamentals. Lane also shares his love for Go, Tailwind, and J.R.R. Tolkien.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:58) - Meet Lane Wagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:06) - Whiskey: Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:54) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:25) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:55) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:08) - Best tooling and learning platforms for developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:26) - How do experienced developers level up?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:32) - Non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09:00) - Tolkien and Rings of Power&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:14:56) - Closing thoughts and plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backend Banter podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.backendbanter.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.backendbanter.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://go.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldpogue.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldpogue.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codepen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lane’s Medium articles: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wagslane.medium.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wagslane.medium.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://reddit.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://reddit.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News: &lt;a href=&#34;https://news.ycombinator.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BYU: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.byu.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.byu.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mit.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mit.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stanford.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.stanford.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Udemy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.udemy.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.udemy.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow with DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/106&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/106&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Holt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mholt6&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mholt6&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;J.R.R. Tolkien: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Rings of Power: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roald Dahl: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roalddahl.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.roalddahl.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harry Potter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wizardingworld.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wizardingworld.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Hobbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Anderson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Asteroid City: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Lane
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/wagslane&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/wagslane&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.backendbanter.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.backendbanter.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f9c546d6-eabd-4fb0-8aa0-b2a13e1bf722</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/n02q8x2ph3czyvaw4oturegd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Lane Wanger, the creator of Boot.dev, about his journey to backend development and launching Boot.dev. They discuss the state of developer education, how advanced developers can level up, and the importance of fundamentals. Lane also shares his love for Go, Tailwind, and J.R.R. Tolkien.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:58) - Meet Lane Wagner</li>
<li>(03:06) - Whiskey: Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey</li>
<li>(10:54) - Whiskey rating</li>
<li>(15:25) - Hot takes</li>
<li>(36:55) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>(38:08) - Best tooling and learning platforms for developers</li>
<li>(48:26) - How do experienced developers level up?</li>
<li>(01:07:32) - Non-tech careers</li>
<li>(01:09:00) - Tolkien and Rings of Power</li>
<li>(01:14:56) - Closing thoughts and plugs</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>Backend Banter podcast: <a href="https://www.backendbanter.fm" target="_blank">https://www.backendbanter.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Boot.dev: <a href="https://boot.dev" target="_blank">https://boot.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Go: <a href="https://go.dev" target="_blank">https://go.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey: <a href="https://www.oldpogue.com" target="_blank">https://www.oldpogue.com</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink</a>
</li>
<li>Chris Coyier: <a href="https://x.com/chriscoyier" target="_blank">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a>
</li>
<li>Codepen: <a href="https://codepen.io" target="_blank">https://codepen.io</a>
</li>
<li>Lane’s Medium articles: <a href="https://wagslane.medium.com" target="_blank">https://wagslane.medium.com</a>
</li>
<li>Reddit: <a href="https://reddit.com" target="_blank">https://reddit.com</a>
</li>
<li>Hacker News: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com" target="_blank">https://news.ycombinator.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
<li>BYU: <a href="https://www.byu.edu" target="_blank">https://www.byu.edu</a>
</li>
<li>MIT: <a href="https://www.mit.edu" target="_blank">https://www.mit.edu</a>
</li>
<li>Stanford: <a href="https://www.stanford.edu" target="_blank">https://www.stanford.edu</a>
</li>
<li>Udemy: <a href="https://www.udemy.com" target="_blank">https://www.udemy.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>How About Tomorrow with DHH: <a href="https://tomorrow.fm/106" target="_blank">https://tomorrow.fm/106</a>
</li>
<li>Matt Holt: <a href="https://x.com/mholt6" target="_blank">https://x.com/mholt6</a>
</li>
<li>J.R.R. Tolkien: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien</a>
</li>
<li>The Rings of Power: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power</a>
</li>
<li>Game of Thrones: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones</a>
</li>
<li>Roald Dahl: <a href="https://www.roalddahl.com" target="_blank">https://www.roalddahl.com</a>
</li>
<li>Harry Potter: <a href="https://www.wizardingworld.com" target="_blank">https://www.wizardingworld.com</a>
</li>
<li>The Hobbit: <a href="https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit" target="_blank">https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit</a>
</li>
<li>Wes Anderson: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572</a>
</li>
<li>Asteroid City: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388</a>
</li>
<li>The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Lane
<ul>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/wagslane" target="_blank">https://x.com/wagslane</a>
</li>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.boot.dev" target="_blank">https://www.boot.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Podcast: <a href="https://www.backendbanter.fm" target="_blank">https://www.backendbanter.fm</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From Frontend to Backend: Lane Wagner&#39;s Journey to Boot.dev</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n02q8x2ph3czyvaw4oturegd/b4es14drbh6ff6qod2pho2sq.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4588</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>164</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Lane Wanger, the creator of Boot.dev, about his journey to backend development and launching Boot.dev. They discuss the state of developer education, how advanced developers can level up, and the importance of fundamentals. Lane also shares his love for Go, Tailwind, and J.R.R. Tolkien.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:58) - Meet Lane Wagner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:06) - Whiskey: Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:54) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:25) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:55) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:08) - Best tooling and learning platforms for developers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:26) - How do experienced developers level up?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:07:32) - Non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:09:00) - Tolkien and Rings of Power&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:14:56) - Closing thoughts and plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backend Banter podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.backendbanter.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.backendbanter.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go: &lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://go.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Maysville Club Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldpogue.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldpogue.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codepen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://codepen.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lane’s Medium articles: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wagslane.medium.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wagslane.medium.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://reddit.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://reddit.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News: &lt;a href=&#34;https://news.ycombinator.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BYU: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.byu.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.byu.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MIT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mit.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mit.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stanford.edu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.stanford.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Udemy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.udemy.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.udemy.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How About Tomorrow with DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tomorrow.fm/106&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tomorrow.fm/106&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Holt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/mholt6&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/mholt6&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;J.R.R. Tolkien: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Rings of Power: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roald Dahl: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roalddahl.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.roalddahl.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Harry Potter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wizardingworld.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wizardingworld.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Hobbit: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tolkienestate.com/writing/the-hobbit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes Anderson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0027572&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Asteroid City: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14230388&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16968450&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Lane
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/wagslane&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/wagslane&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.backendbanter.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.backendbanter.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v1kx71pbzqxtvjihfi71w2hm/thumbnail-v1kx71pbzqxtvjihfi71w2hm.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/v1kx71pbzqxtvjihfi71w2hm/thumbnail-v1kx71pbzqxtvjihfi71w2hm.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n02q8x2ph3czyvaw4oturegd/klgqu3zm2hrjd6h7mnpyvil1/transcoded-01KECKE1RPKV0EST11ET02M3J6-01KECKE1RP6H63S9YHXENNY4MQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Balancing Code and Wellbeing: Michelle Bakels on React and Developer Health</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Michelle Bakels, Program Director at G2i and co-organizer of React Miami. They cover a range of topics, from developer health initiatives to the challenges of organizing a growing tech conference. They also discuss their experiences with React, the evolution of developer culture, and the perks of working in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:43) - Whiskey: Old Forester 1910&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:11) - Inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:07) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:59) - Git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:08) - Third party vs roll your own&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:40) - VS Code sidebar on left or right&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:35) - Vercel vs cheap VPS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:07) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:40) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:10) - Dev Health OS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:58) - Inter Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:37) - Phoenix Open and TGL&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:44) - Non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1910: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamwathan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamwathan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JetBrains: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vs Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atom-editor.cc&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atom-editor.cc&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laracon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://Sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Dev Health OS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devhealthos.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.devhealthos.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gabe Greenberg: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/gabe_g2i&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/gabe_g2i&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How We Work by Leah Weiss: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-&lt;/a&gt; 0062565060&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Inter Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intermiamicf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.intermiamicf.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Phoenix Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wmphoenixopen.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wmphoenixopen.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TGL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tglgolf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tglgolf.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tiger Woods: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TigerWoods&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TigerWoods&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jupiter Links: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Michelle
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michellebakels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michellebakels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/michellebakels&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/michellebakels&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5ee31067-dff3-4bb7-8856-3493f9c09be9</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/kpen84rcca9e78el9y8ctgv4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Michelle Bakels, Program Director at G2i and co-organizer of React Miami. They cover a range of topics, from developer health initiatives to the challenges of organizing a growing tech conference. They also discuss their experiences with React, the evolution of developer culture, and the perks of working in tech.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:43) - Whiskey: Old Forester 1910</li>
<li>(17:11) - Inferred types vs explicit types</li>
<li>(18:07) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS</li>
<li>(20:59) - Git rebase vs git merge</li>
<li>(23:08) - Third party vs roll your own</li>
<li>(24:40) - VS Code sidebar on left or right</li>
<li>(27:35) - Vercel vs cheap VPS</li>
<li>(31:07) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>(31:40) - React Miami</li>
<li>(39:10) - Dev Health OS</li>
<li>(44:58) - Inter Miami</li>
<li>(49:37) - Phoenix Open and TGL</li>
<li>(52:44) - Non-tech careers</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com</a>
</li>
<li>Old Forester 1910: <a href="https://www.oldforester.com" target="_blank">https://www.oldforester.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
<li>Jack Rose: <a href="https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com" target="_blank">https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>Typescript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Wathan: <a href="https://x.com/adamwathan" target="_blank">https://x.com/adamwathan</a>
</li>
<li>JetBrains: <a href="https://www.jetbrains.com" target="_blank">https://www.jetbrains.com</a>
</li>
<li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com" target="_blank">https://vercel.com</a>
</li>
<li>Vs Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com</a>
</li>
<li>Atom: <a href="https://atom-editor.cc" target="_blank">https://atom-editor.cc</a>
</li>
<li>Cursor: <a href="https://www.cursor.com" target="_blank">https://www.cursor.com</a>
</li>
<li>Netlify: <a href="https://www.netlify.com" target="_blank">https://www.netlify.com</a>
</li>
<li>Dax: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org</a>
</li>
<li>Laracon: <a href="https://laracon.us" target="_blank">https://laracon.us</a>
</li>
<li>Sentry: <a href="https://Sentry.io" target="_blank">https://Sentry.io</a>
</li>
<li>PHP: <a href="https://www.php.net" target="_blank">https://www.php.net</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev" target="_blank">https://react.dev</a>
</li>
<li>The Dev Health OS: <a href="https://www.devhealthos.com" target="_blank">https://www.devhealthos.com</a>
</li>
<li>Gabe Greenberg: <a href="https://x.com/gabe_g2i" target="_blank">https://x.com/gabe_g2i</a>
</li>
<li>How We Work by Leah Weiss: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-</a> 0062565060</li>
<li>Inter Miami: <a href="https://www.intermiamicf.com" target="_blank">https://www.intermiamicf.com</a>
</li>
<li>Phoenix Open: <a href="https://wmphoenixopen.com" target="_blank">https://wmphoenixopen.com</a>
</li>
<li>TGL: <a href="https://tglgolf.com" target="_blank">https://tglgolf.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tiger Woods: <a href="https://x.com/TigerWoods" target="_blank">https://x.com/TigerWoods</a>
</li>
<li>Jupiter Links: <a href="https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc" target="_blank">https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Michelle
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.michellebakels.com" target="_blank">https://www.michellebakels.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/michellebakels" target="_blank">https://x.com/michellebakels</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
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</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Balancing Code and Wellbeing: Michelle Bakels on React and Developer Health</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/kpen84rcca9e78el9y8ctgv4/vlfv1y2xj3o612ojugnmbmmy.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3341</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>163</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Michelle Bakels, Program Director at G2i and co-organizer of React Miami. They cover a range of topics, from developer health initiatives to the challenges of organizing a growing tech conference. They also discuss their experiences with React, the evolution of developer culture, and the perks of working in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:43) - Whiskey: Old Forester 1910&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:11) - Inferred types vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:07) - Tailwind vs vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:59) - Git rebase vs git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:08) - Third party vs roll your own&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:40) - VS Code sidebar on left or right&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:35) - Vercel vs cheap VPS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:07) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:40) - React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:10) - Dev Health OS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:58) - Inter Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:37) - Phoenix Open and TGL&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:44) - Non-tech careers&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1910: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackrosediningsaloon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Typescript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamwathan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamwathan&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JetBrains: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vs Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom: &lt;a href=&#34;https://atom-editor.cc&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://atom-editor.cc&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cursor: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cursor.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.cursor.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netlify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laracon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laracon.us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laracon.us&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sentry: &lt;a href=&#34;https://Sentry.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://Sentry.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Dev Health OS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devhealthos.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.devhealthos.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gabe Greenberg: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/gabe_g2i&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/gabe_g2i&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How We Work by Leah Weiss: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Work-Purpose-Reclaim/dp/-&lt;/a&gt; 0062565060&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Inter Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intermiamicf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.intermiamicf.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Phoenix Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wmphoenixopen.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wmphoenixopen.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TGL: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tglgolf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tglgolf.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tiger Woods: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/TigerWoods&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/TigerWoods&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jupiter Links: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jupiterlinksgc&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Michelle
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.michellebakels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.michellebakels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/michellebakels&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/michellebakels&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/fhfr6koiwzb1rc7iusk48d0d/thumbnail-fhfr6koiwzb1rc7iusk48d0d.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/fhfr6koiwzb1rc7iusk48d0d/thumbnail-fhfr6koiwzb1rc7iusk48d0d.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/kpen84rcca9e78el9y8ctgv4/jd6ddgi0rqqwi8byubmxco9y/transcoded-01KECKCZ5MM3B3XJW536BE2Z89-01KECKCZ5M0KKTX6ZKRCYYYTST_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Developer Communities, Career Growth, and Front-End Hot Takes with Madison Kanna</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Madison Kanna joins Robbie and Chuck to discuss her journey as a developer and the creation of CodebookClub, an online community for developers. They dive into hot takes on Tailwind, TypeScript, and the challenges of keeping up with the fast-paced world of web development. They also discuss the importance of mastering foundational skills, developer burnout, and the evolving role of AI tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:22) - Whiskey: Smoke Wagon Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:56) - Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:42) - Inferred vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:14) - Tailwind vs CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:39) - Git rebase vs Git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:42) - Copilot vs Claude&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:18) - Coding journey and early inspirations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:43) - CodeBookClub&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:38) - The complexity of front-end development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:12) - Developer job titles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:43) - Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(58:30) - The great Pickleball debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:20) - Madison’s plans for React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeBookClub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/codebookclub&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/codebookclub&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;H&amp;amp;C Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nevadadistilling.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nevadadistilling.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High West Distillery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highwest.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://makersmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/conf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/conf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Foo Fighters: &lt;a href=&#34;https://foofighters.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://foofighters.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/chatgpt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stack Overflow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stackoverflow.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hypermedia Systems: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Billy Ray Cyrus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.billyraycyrus.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.billyraycyrus.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicolas Cage: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Con Air: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Face/Off: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clueless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;@thedxr: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Madison
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://madisonkanna.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://madisonkanna.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/madisonkanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/madisonkanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f488ba30-ae92-40b3-abee-87292a7abe43</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/bgiu9bbapep5ynic2upl5iwq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madison Kanna joins Robbie and Chuck to discuss her journey as a developer and the creation of CodebookClub, an online community for developers. They dive into hot takes on Tailwind, TypeScript, and the challenges of keeping up with the fast-paced world of web development. They also discuss the importance of mastering foundational skills, developer burnout, and the evolving role of AI tools.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:22) - Whiskey: Smoke Wagon Straight Bourbon Whiskey</li>
<li>(13:56) - Hot Takes</li>
<li>(17:42) - Inferred vs explicit types</li>
<li>(20:14) - Tailwind vs CSS</li>
<li>(23:39) - Git rebase vs Git merge</li>
<li>(27:42) - Copilot vs Claude</li>
<li>(34:18) - Coding journey and early inspirations</li>
<li>(39:43) - CodeBookClub</li>
<li>(41:38) - The complexity of front-end development</li>
<li>(48:12) - Developer job titles</li>
<li>(52:43) - Whatnot</li>
<li>(58:30) - The great Pickleball debate</li>
<li>(01:04:20) - Madison’s plans for React Miami</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>CodeBookClub: <a href="https://x.com/codebookclub" target="_blank">https://x.com/codebookclub</a>
</li>
<li>H&amp;C Distilling: <a href="https://www.nevadadistilling.com" target="_blank">https://www.nevadadistilling.com</a>
</li>
<li>Taylor Swift: <a href="https://www.taylorswift.com" target="_blank">https://www.taylorswift.com</a>
</li>
<li>High West Distillery: <a href="https://highwest.com" target="_blank">https://highwest.com</a>
</li>
<li>Jack Daniels: <a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com" target="_blank">https://www.jackdaniels.com</a>
</li>
<li>Marker’s Mark: <a href="https://makersmark.com" target="_blank">https://makersmark.com</a>
</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace: <a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com</a>
</li>
<li>Next Conf: <a href="https://nextjs.org/conf" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org/conf</a>
</li>
<li>Seinfeld: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld</a>
</li>
<li>Foo Fighters: <a href="https://foofighters.com" target="_blank">https://foofighters.com</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org</a>
</li>
<li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://openai.com/chatgpt" target="_blank">https://openai.com/chatgpt</a>
</li>
<li>Stack Overflow: <a href="https://stackoverflow.com" target="_blank">https://stackoverflow.com</a>
</li>
<li>Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a>
</li>
<li>Claude: <a href="https://claude.ai" target="_blank">https://claude.ai</a>
</li>
<li>Next.js: <a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">https://nextjs.org</a>
</li>
<li>Hypermedia Systems: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6</a>
</li>
<li>LeetCode: <a href="https://leetcode.com" target="_blank">https://leetcode.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Adam Argyle: <a href="https://x.com/argyleink" target="_blank">https://x.com/argyleink</a>
</li>
<li>Billy Ray Cyrus: <a href="https://www.billyraycyrus.com" target="_blank">https://www.billyraycyrus.com</a>
</li>
<li>Nicolas Cage: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115</a>
</li>
<li>Con Air: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880</a>
</li>
<li>Face/Off: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org</a>
</li>
<li>Clueless: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697</a>
</li>
<li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com</a>
</li>
<li>@thedxr: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Madison
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://madisonkanna.com" target="_blank">https://madisonkanna.com</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/madisonkanna" target="_blank">https://x.com/madisonkanna</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna</a>
</li>
</ul>
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
Subscribe and stay in touch
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</li>
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</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Developer Communities, Career Growth, and Front-End Hot Takes with Madison Kanna</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bgiu9bbapep5ynic2upl5iwq/e9qo4e9ns3zjeyulsayzax9e.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4099</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>162</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Madison Kanna joins Robbie and Chuck to discuss her journey as a developer and the creation of CodebookClub, an online community for developers. They dive into hot takes on Tailwind, TypeScript, and the challenges of keeping up with the fast-paced world of web development. They also discuss the importance of mastering foundational skills, developer burnout, and the evolving role of AI tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(02:22) - Whiskey: Smoke Wagon Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:56) - Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(17:42) - Inferred vs explicit types&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(20:14) - Tailwind vs CSS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:39) - Git rebase vs Git merge&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(27:42) - Copilot vs Claude&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:18) - Coding journey and early inspirations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:43) - CodeBookClub&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(41:38) - The complexity of front-end development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:12) - Developer job titles&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(52:43) - Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(58:30) - The great Pickleball debate&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:04:20) - Madison’s plans for React Miami&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Links
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeBookClub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/codebookclub&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/codebookclub&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;H&amp;amp;C Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nevadadistilling.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nevadadistilling.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High West Distillery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://highwest.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://highwest.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jackdaniels.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://makersmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/conf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org/conf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seinfeld: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Foo Fighters: &lt;a href=&#34;https://foofighters.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://foofighters.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/chatgpt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stack Overflow: &lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://stackoverflow.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Claude: &lt;a href=&#34;https://claude.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://claude.ai&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nextjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hypermedia Systems: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Hypermedia-Systems-Carson-Gross/dp/B0C9S88QV6&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LeetCode: &lt;a href=&#34;https://leetcode.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://leetcode.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Argyle: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/argyleink&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Billy Ray Cyrus: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.billyraycyrus.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.billyraycyrus.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicolas Cage: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Con Air: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118880&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Face/Off: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clueless: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;@thedxr: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Madison
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://madisonkanna.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://madisonkanna.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/madisonkanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/madisonkanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@MadisonKanna&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Subscribe and stay in touch
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/s1bbel66koow44hm9mxfgmtw/thumbnail-s1bbel66koow44hm9mxfgmtw.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/s1bbel66koow44hm9mxfgmtw/thumbnail-s1bbel66koow44hm9mxfgmtw.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bgiu9bbapep5ynic2upl5iwq/h907lfrbrsumhhajy0b3d4kb/transcoded-01KECKD10PMZKMYWNRYNDT8N7G-01KECKD10PMRJYBS9GP1F3GEVG_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Frameworks, AI, and the Complexities of the Gig Economy</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck review a Kings County Distillery spiced whiskey, and discuss a range of topics, from shiny object syndrome and framework overwhelm to the impacts of AI. They also explore the rise and fall of the gig economy and how to approach product and content creation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:47) - Whiskey: Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:36) - Frameworks and AI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:16) - Pros and Cons of the gig economy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:29) - Clients, software, and open source&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:39) - Content creation and making a good product&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:16) - Star Wars and TV shows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:28) - Zelda and video games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:45) - Creatine and brain power&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:53) - Starpod&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kingscountydistillery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kingscountydistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lex Friedman Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lexfridman.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lexfridman.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peter Levels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://levels.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://levels.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.uber.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DoorDash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.doordash.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Airbnb: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.airbnb.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caleb Porzio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://calebporzio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://calebporzio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Small-Time Entrepreneurship (Small Bets): &lt;a href=&#34;https://smallbets.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://smallbets.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carnival: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/carnivale&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/carnivale&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Resident Evil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stranger Things: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zelda: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zelda.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7b0f916d-6597-4094-9047-d70e340427e1</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zoss0gbml7x5hcu5cjxzb72d.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck review a Kings County Distillery spiced whiskey, and discuss a range of topics, from shiny object syndrome and framework overwhelm to the impacts of AI. They also explore the rise and fall of the gig economy and how to approach product and content creation.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:47) - Whiskey: Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey</li>
<li>(10:36) - Frameworks and AI</li>
<li>(24:16) - Pros and Cons of the gig economy</li>
<li>(26:29) - Clients, software, and open source</li>
<li>(31:39) - Content creation and making a good product</li>
<li>(38:16) - Star Wars and TV shows</li>
<li>(44:28) - Zelda and video games</li>
<li>(48:45) - Creatine and brain power</li>
<li>(49:53) - Starpod</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey: <a href="https://www.kingscountydistillery.com" target="_blank">https://www.kingscountydistillery.com</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org</a>
</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>React: <a href="https://react.dev" target="_blank">https://react.dev</a>
</li>
<li>PHP: <a href="https://www.php.net" target="_blank">https://www.php.net</a>
</li>
<li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com" target="_blank">https://laravel.com</a>
</li>
<li>Lex Friedman Podcast: <a href="https://lexfridman.com" target="_blank">https://lexfridman.com</a>
</li>
<li>Peter Levels: <a href="https://levels.io" target="_blank">https://levels.io</a>
</li>
<li>OpenAI: <a href="https://openai.com" target="_blank">https://openai.com</a>
</li>
<li>Uber: <a href="https://www.uber.com" target="_blank">https://www.uber.com</a>
</li>
<li>DoorDash: <a href="https://www.doordash.com" target="_blank">https://www.doordash.com</a>
</li>
<li>Airbnb: <a href="https://www.airbnb.com" target="_blank">https://www.airbnb.com</a>
</li>
<li>Caleb Porzio: <a href="https://calebporzio.com" target="_blank">https://calebporzio.com</a>
</li>
<li>Small-Time Entrepreneurship (Small Bets): <a href="https://smallbets.com" target="_blank">https://smallbets.com</a>
</li>
<li>The Acolyte: <a href="https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte" target="_blank">https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte</a>
</li>
<li>Carnival: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/carnivale" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/carnivale</a>
</li>
<li>Resident Evil: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>Game of Thrones: <a href="https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones" target="_blank">https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones</a>
</li>
<li>Stranger Things: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281" target="_blank">https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281</a>
</li>
<li>FIFA: <a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa" target="_blank">https://www.ea.com/games/fifa</a>
</li>
<li>Zelda: <a href="https://www.zelda.com" target="_blank">https://www.zelda.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ripley: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765" target="_blank">https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765</a>
</li>
<li>Astro: <a href="https://astro.build" target="_blank">https://astro.build</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Frameworks, AI, and the Complexities of the Gig Economy</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zoss0gbml7x5hcu5cjxzb72d/v8tjqemxaysz4kow7wvfnbfb.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3175</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>161</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck review a Kings County Distillery spiced whiskey, and discuss a range of topics, from shiny object syndrome and framework overwhelm to the impacts of AI. They also explore the rise and fall of the gig economy and how to approach product and content creation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:47) - Whiskey: Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(10:36) - Frameworks and AI&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(24:16) - Pros and Cons of the gig economy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:29) - Clients, software, and open source&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:39) - Content creation and making a good product&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(38:16) - Star Wars and TV shows&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(44:28) - Zelda and video games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(48:45) - Creatine and brain power&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(49:53) - Starpod&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kings County Distillery Spiced “flavored” Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kingscountydistillery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.kingscountydistillery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React: &lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://react.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lex Friedman Podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://lexfridman.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://lexfridman.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peter Levels: &lt;a href=&#34;https://levels.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://levels.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uber.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.uber.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DoorDash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.doordash.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Airbnb: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.airbnb.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caleb Porzio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://calebporzio.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://calebporzio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Small-Time Entrepreneurship (Small Bets): &lt;a href=&#34;https://smallbets.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://smallbets.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Carnival: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/carnivale&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/carnivale&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Resident Evil: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stranger Things: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zelda: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.zelda.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/81678765&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://astro.build&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/pjhvair7zfjc1euswxl8x5fk/thumbnail-pjhvair7zfjc1euswxl8x5fk.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/pjhvair7zfjc1euswxl8x5fk/thumbnail-pjhvair7zfjc1euswxl8x5fk.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zoss0gbml7x5hcu5cjxzb72d/rtycpdnkmlyw657ixrqfae6r/transcoded-01KECKDX4M6NFEWSPEBFRYRRVQ-01KECKDX4MEPS8KYJNJQ7PW8EB_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Frameworks, Football, and Fast Cars with Kelly Vaughn</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kelly Vaughn about web development, whiskey, and a variety of hot takes including car preferences, Taylor Swift connections, and life experiences. They discuss Kelly’s new community, The Friend Zone, aimed at job seekers and networking, and the upcoming All Things Open conference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:12) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:39) - All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:55) - Fitness and Peloton&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:59) - Celebrity connections&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:58) - Kelly’s All Things Open talk&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:25) - The Friend Zone&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:49) - Olive Garden and Waffle House&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:01) - Kelly’s advice for starting a newsletter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;http://Spot.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spot.ai&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spot.ai&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bardstown: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bardstownbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bardstownbourbon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chicken Cock Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chickencockwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mazda: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mazdausa.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mazdausa.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git Tower: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.git-tower.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.git-tower.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bulldogs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.georgiadogs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.georgiadogs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wolverines: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mgoblue.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mgoblue.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gators: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.floridagators.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.floridagators.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crimson Tide: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rolltide.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rolltide.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buckeyes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wildcats: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ukathletics.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ukathletics.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peloton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.onepeloton.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Wilpers: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Heights podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Art19: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.art19.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.art19.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Friends: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rachel McAdams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Desseyn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Friend Zone: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thefriendzone.lol&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thefriendzone.lol&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Olive Garden: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.olivegarden.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.olivegarden.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waffle House: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wafflehouse.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wafflehouse.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atomic Habits: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vince Vaughn on Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad Monkey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Kelly&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tiny Triumphs newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f0beed00-39c0-4c70-9140-60d8e094f6fe</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zhguxdt2q8vcgkmjz84s0nac.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kelly Vaughn about web development, whiskey, and a variety of hot takes including car preferences, Taylor Swift connections, and life experiences. They discuss Kelly’s new community, The Friend Zone, aimed at job seekers and networking, and the upcoming All Things Open conference.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye</li>
<li>(15:03) - Hot takes</li>
<li>(28:12) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>(29:39) - All Things Open</li>
<li>(30:55) - Fitness and Peloton</li>
<li>(33:59) - Celebrity connections</li>
<li>(36:58) - Kelly’s All Things Open talk</li>
<li>(40:25) - The Friend Zone</li>
<li>(42:49) - Olive Garden and Waffle House</li>
<li>(47:01) - Kelly’s advice for starting a newsletter</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="http://Spot.ai" target="_blank">Spot.ai</a>: <a href="https://www.spot.ai" target="_blank">https://www.spot.ai</a>
</li>
<li>Bardstown: <a href="https://bardstownbourbon.com" target="_blank">https://bardstownbourbon.com</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
<li>Chicken Cock Rye: <a href="https://chickencockwhiskey.com" target="_blank">https://chickencockwhiskey.com</a>
</li>
<li>Mazda: <a href="https://www.mazdausa.com" target="_blank">https://www.mazdausa.com</a>
</li>
<li>Porsche: <a href="https://www.porsche.com" target="_blank">https://www.porsche.com</a>
</li>
<li>Git Tower: <a href="https://www.git-tower.com" target="_blank">https://www.git-tower.com</a>
</li>
<li>Bulldogs: <a href="https://www.georgiadogs.com" target="_blank">https://www.georgiadogs.com</a>
</li>
<li>Wolverines: <a href="https://www.mgoblue.com" target="_blank">https://www.mgoblue.com</a>
</li>
<li>Gators: <a href="https://www.floridagators.com" target="_blank">https://www.floridagators.com</a>
</li>
<li>Crimson Tide: <a href="https://www.rolltide.com" target="_blank">https://www.rolltide.com</a>
</li>
<li>Buckeyes: <a href="https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com" target="_blank">https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com</a>
</li>
<li>Wildcats: <a href="https://www.ukathletics.com" target="_blank">https://www.ukathletics.com</a>
</li>
<li>Vue: <a href="https://vuejs.org" target="_blank">https://vuejs.org</a>
</li>
<li>Nuxt: <a href="https://nuxt.com" target="_blank">https://nuxt.com</a>
</li>
<li>All Things Open: <a href="https://2024.allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://2024.allthingsopen.org</a>
</li>
<li>Peloton: <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com" target="_blank">https://www.onepeloton.com</a>
</li>
<li>Matt Wilpers: <a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers" target="_blank">https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers</a>
</li>
<li>Taylor Swift: <a href="https://www.taylorswift.com" target="_blank">https://www.taylorswift.com</a>
</li>
<li>New Heights podcast: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow</a>
</li>
<li>Wondery: <a href="https://wondery.com" target="_blank">https://wondery.com</a>
</li>
<li>Art19: <a href="https://www.art19.com" target="_blank">https://www.art19.com</a>
</li>
<li>Friends: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends</a>
</li>
<li>Rachel McAdams: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams</a>
</li>
<li>Taylor Desseyn: <a href="https://x.com/tdesseyn" target="_blank">https://x.com/tdesseyn</a>
</li>
<li>The Friend Zone: <a href="https://thefriendzone.lol" target="_blank">https://thefriendzone.lol</a>
</li>
<li>Olive Garden: <a href="https://www.olivegarden.com" target="_blank">https://www.olivegarden.com</a>
</li>
<li>Waffle House: <a href="https://www.wafflehouse.com" target="_blank">https://www.wafflehouse.com</a>
</li>
<li>Atomic Habits: <a href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits" target="_blank">https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits</a>
</li>
<li>Vince Vaughn on Hot Ones: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ</a>
</li>
<li>Bad Monkey: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Kelly</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/kvlly" target="_blank">https://x.com/kvlly</a>
</li>
<li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn</a>
</li>
<li>The Modern Leader newsletter: <a href="https://modernleader.is" target="_blank">https://modernleader.is</a>
</li>
<li>Tiny Triumphs newsletter: <a href="https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz" target="_blank">https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Frameworks, Football, and Fast Cars with Kelly Vaughn</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zhguxdt2q8vcgkmjz84s0nac/izj2fuugb0zvp6t5d6ui317j.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3529</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>160</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kelly Vaughn about web development, whiskey, and a variety of hot takes including car preferences, Taylor Swift connections, and life experiences. They discuss Kelly’s new community, The Friend Zone, aimed at job seekers and networking, and the upcoming All Things Open conference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(04:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:03) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(28:12) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(29:39) - All Things Open&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:55) - Fitness and Peloton&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(33:59) - Celebrity connections&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(36:58) - Kelly’s All Things Open talk&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(40:25) - The Friend Zone&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(42:49) - Olive Garden and Waffle House&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:01) - Kelly’s advice for starting a newsletter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;http://Spot.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spot.ai&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.spot.ai&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bardstown: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bardstownbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bardstownbourbon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chicken Cock Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chickencockwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mazda: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mazdausa.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mazdausa.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.porsche.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git Tower: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.git-tower.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.git-tower.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bulldogs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.georgiadogs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.georgiadogs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wolverines: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mgoblue.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.mgoblue.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gators: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.floridagators.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.floridagators.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Crimson Tide: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rolltide.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rolltide.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buckeyes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wildcats: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ukathletics.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ukathletics.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://2024.allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Peloton: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.onepeloton.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Wilpers: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.onepeloton.com/classes/matt-wilpers&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylorswift.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.taylorswift.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Heights podcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wondery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Art19: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.art19.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.art19.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Friends: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rachel McAdams: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_McAdams&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Desseyn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/tdesseyn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Friend Zone: &lt;a href=&#34;https://thefriendzone.lol&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://thefriendzone.lol&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Olive Garden: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.olivegarden.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.olivegarden.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waffle House: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wafflehouse.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.wafflehouse.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atomic Habits: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vince Vaughn on Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfOaVGaYsfQ&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bad Monkey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Monkey_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Kelly&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/kvlly&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Modern Leader newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://modernleader.is&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://modernleader.is&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tiny Triumphs newsletter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.tinytriumphs.xyz&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:16) - Whiskey: World Whiskey Society Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:36) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:59) - Is jQuery better than Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:34) - Is creatine vaporware?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:32) - Are Bombas the best socks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:38) - Were fillers in crab cakes a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:12) - AI and the future of dev jobs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:42) - The role of AI in development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:21) - How to impress Taylor in the interview process&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:20) - Management vs individual contributor&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:25) - Promotion politics&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:40) - Football season&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:45) - Burnout and taking breaks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://spotify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://spotify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;World Whiskey Society: &lt;a href=&#34;https://worldwhiskey.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://worldwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Motz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.georgemotz.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.georgemotz.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bombas: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bombas.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bombas.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chevy Chase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stan Smith: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web3.foundation&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web3.foundation&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/chatgpt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ben Holmes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bholmes.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bholmes.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Taylor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.poindexter.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/engineering_bae&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:16) - Whiskey: World Whiskey Society Kentucky Straight Bourbon</li>
<li>(14:36) - Hot takes</li>
<li>(14:59) - Is jQuery better than Laravel</li>
<li>(15:34) - Is creatine vaporware?</li>
<li>(19:32) - Are Bombas the best socks</li>
<li>(23:38) - Were fillers in crab cakes a mistake?</li>
<li>(26:12) - AI and the future of dev jobs</li>
<li>(31:42) - The role of AI in development</li>
<li>(34:21) - How to impress Taylor in the interview process</li>
<li>(39:20) - Management vs individual contributor</li>
<li>(45:25) - Promotion politics</li>
<li>(53:40) - Football season</li>
<li>(55:45) - Burnout and taking breaks</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://spotify.com" target="_blank">https://spotify.com</a>
</li>
<li>World Whiskey Society: <a href="https://worldwhiskey.com" target="_blank">https://worldwhiskey.com</a>
</li>
<li>George Motz: <a href="https://www.georgemotz.com" target="_blank">https://www.georgemotz.com</a>
</li>
<li>jQuery: <a href="https://jquery.com" target="_blank">https://jquery.com</a>
</li>
<li>Laravel: <a href="https://laravel.com" target="_blank">https://laravel.com</a>
</li>
<li>Bombas: <a href="https://bombas.com" target="_blank">https://bombas.com</a>
</li>
<li>Chevy Chase: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase</a>
</li>
<li>Stan Smith: <a href="https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith" target="_blank">https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith</a>
</li>
<li>Web3: <a href="https://web3.foundation" target="_blank">https://web3.foundation</a>
</li>
<li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://openai.com/chatgpt" target="_blank">https://openai.com/chatgpt</a>
</li>
<li>Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a>
</li>
<li>Ben Holmes: <a href="https://bholmes.dev" target="_blank">https://bholmes.dev</a>
</li>
<li>Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Taylor</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://www.poindexter.dev" target="_blank">https://www.poindexter.dev</a>
</li>
<li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/engineering_bae" target="_blank">https://x.com/engineering_bae</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
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</li>
</ul>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(03:16) - Whiskey: World Whiskey Society Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:36) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(14:59) - Is jQuery better than Laravel&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(15:34) - Is creatine vaporware?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(19:32) - Are Bombas the best socks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:38) - Were fillers in crab cakes a mistake?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(26:12) - AI and the future of dev jobs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(31:42) - The role of AI in development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(34:21) - How to impress Taylor in the interview process&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:20) - Management vs individual contributor&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(45:25) - Promotion politics&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(53:40) - Football season&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(55:45) - Burnout and taking breaks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://spotify.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://spotify.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;World Whiskey Society: &lt;a href=&#34;https://worldwhiskey.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://worldwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Motz: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.georgemotz.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.georgemotz.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery: &lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://jquery.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://laravel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bombas: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bombas.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bombas.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chevy Chase: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stan Smith: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3: &lt;a href=&#34;https://web3.foundation&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://web3.foundation&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com/chatgpt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ben Holmes: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bholmes.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bholmes.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Taylor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.poindexter.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/engineering_bae&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ugl5g8av0bfrn6gvlbv7amu0/thumbnail-ugl5g8av0bfrn6gvlbv7amu0.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ugl5g8av0bfrn6gvlbv7amu0/thumbnail-ugl5g8av0bfrn6gvlbv7amu0.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qlmcchxsoufg3uik8q3yej01/rtvr0pn0ugihssqisu9sstgx/transcoded-01KECKE0TB7KFRX40KXVSWN9ZQ-01KECKE0TBA782K1CNADCQV0BD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/qlmcchxsoufg3uik8q3yej01.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Woodford Reserve, Air Conditioning in Europe, Podcasting, TypeScript, and Taxes</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III explore the nuances of a Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey, while also tackling subjects from the intricacies of modern web development to Starpod—Robbie’s podcast website project. They also touch on their experiences with international travel, the challenge of dealing with property taxes, TV show recommendations, and the idiosyncrasies of U.S. politics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(03:41) - Starpod&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(07:15) - Whiskey: Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(12:27) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(19:20) - TypeScript and unions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(26:20) - React, Vue, and modern front-end frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(32:00) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(35:45) - Whiskey aficionado essentials&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(38:28) - Air conditioning woes in Europe&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(45:00) - Jet Ski adventures and boating licenses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(47:23) - TV show recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(55:36) - Taxes and politics&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Woodford Reserve: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Weller Antique 107: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chris Coyier: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Total TypeScript course: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totaltypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.totaltypescript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Nuxt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Vue.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Lauren Tan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/potetotes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/potetotes&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Big Sky Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ryan Florence: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ryanflorence&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ryanflorence&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Sam Selikoff: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/samselikoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/samselikoff&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​JS Party: The Ember take on recent hot topics: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/330&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/330&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chris Thoburn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/still_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/still_runspired&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​WarpDrive: &lt;a href=&#34;https://warp-drive.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://warp-drive.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Warren Buffering: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/WarrenBuffering&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/WarrenBuffering&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​HTMX swag: &lt;a href=&#34;https://swag.htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://swag.htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Vue Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vueconf.us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vueconf.us&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​House of the Dragon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Harlan Coben: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Safe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Pieces of Her: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Presumed Innocent:&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Foundation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Lady in the Lake: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Talented Mr. Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Watchmen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Supernatural: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Rings of Power: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​J.R.R. Tolkien: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Kamala Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cf0b4401-243a-4f82-b368-b98e987d81be</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cqal40kwkw1bus94gp4mfw09.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III explore the nuances of a Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey, while also tackling subjects from the intricacies of modern web development to Starpod—Robbie’s podcast website project. They also touch on their experiences with international travel, the challenge of dealing with property taxes, TV show recommendations, and the idiosyncrasies of U.S. politics.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul>
<li>​(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>​(03:41) - Starpod</li>
<li>​(07:15) - Whiskey: Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey</li>
<li>​(12:27) - Whiskey rating</li>
<li>​(19:20) - TypeScript and unions</li>
<li>​(26:20) - React, Vue, and modern front-end frameworks</li>
<li>​(32:00) - Whiskey.fund</li>
<li>​(35:45) - Whiskey aficionado essentials</li>
<li>​(38:28) - Air conditioning woes in Europe</li>
<li>​(45:00) - Jet Ski adventures and boating licenses</li>
<li>​(47:23) - TV show recommendations</li>
<li>​(55:36) - Taxes and politics</li>
</ul><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul>
<li>​Woodford Reserve: <a href="https://www.woodfordreserve.com/" target="_blank">https://www.woodfordreserve.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Maker’s Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Weller Antique 107: <a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html</a>
</li>
<li>​Chris Coyier: <a href="https://x.com/chriscoyier" target="_blank">https://x.com/chriscoyier</a>
</li>
<li>​Jason Lengstorf: <a href="https://x.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">https://x.com/jlengstorf</a>
</li>
<li>​TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org</a>
</li>
<li>​Total TypeScript course: <a href="https://www.totaltypescript.com/" target="_blank">https://www.totaltypescript.com</a>
</li>
<li>​boot.dev: <a href="https://www.boot.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.boot.dev</a>
</li>
<li>​Nuxt: <a href="https://nuxt.com/" target="_blank">https://nuxt.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Vue.js: <a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">https://vuejs.org</a>
</li>
<li>​React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Lauren Tan: <a href="https://x.com/potetotes" target="_blank">https://x.com/potetotes</a>
</li>
<li>​Big Sky Conf: <a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Ryan Florence: <a href="https://x.com/ryanflorence" target="_blank">https://x.com/ryanflorence</a>
</li>
<li>​Sam Selikoff: <a href="https://x.com/samselikoff" target="_blank">https://x.com/samselikoff</a>
</li>
<li>​JS Party: The Ember take on recent hot topics: <a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty/330" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/jsparty/330</a>
</li>
<li>​Chris Thoburn: <a href="https://x.com/still_runspired" target="_blank">https://x.com/still_runspired</a>
</li>
<li>​WarpDrive: <a href="https://warp-drive.io/" target="_blank">https://warp-drive.io</a>
</li>
<li>​Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a>
</li>
<li>​Warren Buffering: <a href="https://github.com/WarrenBuffering" target="_blank">https://github.com/WarrenBuffering</a>
</li>
<li>​HTMX swag: <a href="https://swag.htmx.org/" target="_blank">https://swag.htmx.org</a>
</li>
<li>​Vue Conf: <a href="https://vueconf.us/" target="_blank">https://vueconf.us</a>
</li>
<li>​Ken Wheeler: <a href="https://x.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">https://x.com/ken_wheeler</a>
</li>
<li>​House of the Dragon: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon</a>
</li>
<li>​The Acolyte: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Harlan Coben: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben</a>
</li>
<li>​Safe: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Pieces of Her: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Presumed Innocent:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Foundation: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Lady in the Lake: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Ripley: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​The Talented Mr. Ripley: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)</a>
</li>
<li>​The Boys: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Watchmen: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Supernatural: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>​Rings of Power: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power</a>
</li>
<li>​J.R.R. Tolkien: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien</a>
</li>
<li>​Kamala Harris: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris</a>
</li>
</ul><p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p><ul>
<li>​Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>​Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul><p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p><ul>
<li>​Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>​Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>​Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>​Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>​YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul><p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p><p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Woodford Reserve, Air Conditioning in Europe, Podcasting, TypeScript, and Taxes</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cqal40kwkw1bus94gp4mfw09/bpnt8xe4howc3oacvvvauygh.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3780</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>158</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III explore the nuances of a Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey, while also tackling subjects from the intricacies of modern web development to Starpod—Robbie’s podcast website project. They also touch on their experiences with international travel, the challenge of dealing with property taxes, TV show recommendations, and the idiosyncrasies of U.S. politics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(03:41) - Starpod&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(07:15) - Whiskey: Woodford Reserve wheat whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(12:27) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(19:20) - TypeScript and unions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(26:20) - React, Vue, and modern front-end frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(32:00) - Whiskey.fund&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(35:45) - Whiskey aficionado essentials&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(38:28) - Air conditioning woes in Europe&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(45:00) - Jet Ski adventures and boating licenses&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(47:23) - TV show recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​(55:36) - Taxes and politics&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Woodford Reserve: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.woodfordreserve.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Weller Antique 107: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chris Coyier: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/chriscoyier&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Jason Lengstorf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/jlengstorf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Total TypeScript course: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totaltypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.totaltypescript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​boot.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boot.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.boot.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Nuxt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://nuxt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Vue.js: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vuejs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Lauren Tan: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/potetotes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/potetotes&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Big Sky Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ryan Florence: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ryanflorence&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ryanflorence&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Sam Selikoff: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/samselikoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/samselikoff&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​JS Party: The Ember take on recent hot topics: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/330&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/330&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chris Thoburn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/still_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/still_runspired&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​WarpDrive: &lt;a href=&#34;https://warp-drive.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://warp-drive.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Warren Buffering: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/WarrenBuffering&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/WarrenBuffering&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​HTMX swag: &lt;a href=&#34;https://swag.htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://swag.htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Vue Conf: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vueconf.us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vueconf.us&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ken Wheeler: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/ken_wheeler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​House of the Dragon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Harlan Coben: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_Coben&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Safe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Pieces of Her: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieces_of_Her_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Presumed Innocent:&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Foundation: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Lady in the Lake: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_the_Lake_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Talented Mr. Ripley: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Mr._Ripley_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​The Boys: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Watchmen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Supernatural: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(American_TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Rings of Power: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​J.R.R. Tolkien: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R._Tolkien&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Kamala Harris: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;​YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/o48d016mhwfay2dnxvar140g/thumbnail-o48d016mhwfay2dnxvar140g.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/o48d016mhwfay2dnxvar140g/thumbnail-o48d016mhwfay2dnxvar140g.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cqal40kwkw1bus94gp4mfw09/fhsudrsxb77q2crv5lg906av/transcoded-01KECKE15ERNESXSP66JCTAY81-01KECKE15E10E6AN7KCDNSBPGR_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Italian Culture, CSS, Remote Work, Gen Z Career Advice, and more!</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III sip some Old Forester 1920 and Bushmills, and dive into a casual conversation about their experiences of Italian culture, food, and the challenges of working remotely in a foreign country. They discuss the complexity of modern web development, CSS, podcasts and TV shows, and offer some Gen Z career advice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:44) - Whiskey: Old Forrester 1920 and Bushmills&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:23) - Animating SVG gradient background colors&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:06) - The complexity and nuance of modern web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:09) - TV shows and podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:52) - Generational work ethic and career paths&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:22) - Italian culture and lifestyle&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:04) - Bottled water obsession&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:04) - Driving in Italy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:33) - Internet woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:45) - Soccer and stadium tours&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(60:22) - VPNs for streaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bushmills: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bushmills.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bushmills.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Animating SVG Gradient Background Colors With CSS Custom Properties: &lt;a href=&#34;https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Armchair Expert: &lt;a href=&#34;https://armchairexpertpod.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://armchairexpertpod.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedHanded: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Stranger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax Merch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.shop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.shop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diablo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kinesis 360: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starlink.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Billie Eilish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;House of the Dragon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;148: Understanding Whiskey with Prime Barrel’s Michael Nagdi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8f498836-a199-421d-9f97-f958b53457bc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lm1khiqm8hm8eo6gdemj9tlu.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III sip some Old Forester 1920 and Bushmills, and dive into a casual conversation about their experiences of Italian culture, food, and the challenges of working remotely in a foreign country. They discuss the complexity of modern web development, CSS, podcasts and TV shows, and offer some Gen Z career advice.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:44) - Whiskey: Old Forrester 1920 and Bushmills</li>
<li>(09:23) - Animating SVG gradient background colors</li>
<li>(13:06) - The complexity and nuance of modern web development</li>
<li>(18:09) - TV shows and podcasts</li>
<li>(23:52) - Generational work ethic and career paths</li>
<li>(30:22) - Italian culture and lifestyle</li>
<li>(39:04) - Bottled water obsession</li>
<li>(47:04) - Driving in Italy</li>
<li>(51:33) - Internet woes</li>
<li>(56:45) - Soccer and stadium tours</li>
<li>(60:22) - VPNs for streaming</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Old Forester 1920: <a href="https://www.oldforester.com" target="_blank">https://www.oldforester.com</a>
</li>
<li>Bushmills: <a href="https://bushmills.com" target="_blank">https://bushmills.com</a>
</li>
<li>Animating SVG Gradient Background Colors With CSS Custom Properties: <a href="https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties" target="_blank">https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties</a>
</li>
<li>TailwindCSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
<li>Armchair Expert: <a href="https://armchairexpertpod.com" target="_blank">https://armchairexpertpod.com</a>
</li>
<li>Syntax: <a href="https://syntax.fm" target="_blank">https://syntax.fm</a>
</li>
<li>RedHanded: <a href="https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded" target="_blank">https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded</a>
</li>
<li>The Stranger: <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209" target="_blank">https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209</a>
</li>
<li>Syntax Merch: <a href="https://sentry.shop" target="_blank">https://sentry.shop</a>
</li>
<li>Diablo: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)</a>
</li>
<li>FIFA: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)</a>
</li>
<li>Kinesis 360: <a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360" target="_blank">https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360</a>
</li>
<li>Starlink: <a href="https://www.starlink.com" target="_blank">https://www.starlink.com</a>
</li>
<li>Billie Eilish: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish</a>
</li>
<li>Taylor Swift: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift</a>
</li>
<li>The Acolyte: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)</a>
</li>
<li>House of the Dragon: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon</a>
</li>
<li>148: Understanding Whiskey with Prime Barrel’s Michael Nagdi: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
<li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
<li>Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf</a>
</li>
<li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
<li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Italian Culture, CSS, Remote Work, Gen Z Career Advice, and more!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lm1khiqm8hm8eo6gdemj9tlu/vvlno4awrzjn3fisw51yn7o2.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3963</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>157</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III sip some Old Forester 1920 and Bushmills, and dive into a casual conversation about their experiences of Italian culture, food, and the challenges of working remotely in a foreign country. They discuss the complexity of modern web development, CSS, podcasts and TV shows, and offer some Gen Z career advice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(01:44) - Whiskey: Old Forrester 1920 and Bushmills&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(09:23) - Animating SVG gradient background colors&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(13:06) - The complexity and nuance of modern web development&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(18:09) - TV shows and podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(23:52) - Generational work ethic and career paths&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(30:22) - Italian culture and lifestyle&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(39:04) - Bottled water obsession&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(47:04) - Driving in Italy&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(51:33) - Internet woes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(56:45) - Soccer and stadium tours&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;(60:22) - VPNs for streaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.oldforester.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bushmills: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bushmills.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bushmills.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Animating SVG Gradient Background Colors With CSS Custom Properties: &lt;a href=&#34;https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://robbiethewagner.dev/articles/animating-svg-gradients-with-css-custom-properties&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Armchair Expert: &lt;a href=&#34;https://armchairexpertpod.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://armchairexpertpod.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax: &lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://syntax.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedHanded: &lt;a href=&#34;https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://wondery.com/shows/redhanded&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Stranger: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.netflix.com/title/81001209&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax Merch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.shop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sentry.shop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diablo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FIFA: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kinesis 360: &lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.starlink.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Billie Eilish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_Eilish&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Acolyte: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Acolyte_(TV_series)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;House of the Dragon: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_the_Dragon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;148: Understanding Whiskey with Prime Barrel’s Michael Nagdi: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm/understanding-whiskey-with-prime-barrels-michael-nagdi&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/d0cv1sniwl681aar4i2pofat/thumbnail-d0cv1sniwl681aar4i2pofat.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/d0cv1sniwl681aar4i2pofat/thumbnail-d0cv1sniwl681aar4i2pofat.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lm1khiqm8hm8eo6gdemj9tlu/iyyjpd5p3m37m48993g336qc/transcoded-01KECKE1PD6HCK9THNVJ5QRY85-01KECKE1PDECC8JT96KBK5G8VR_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/lm1khiqm8hm8eo6gdemj9tlu.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Typecraft: TypeScript, Vim, Foodie YouTube, Linux, and More!</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Power, the creator behind the Typecraft YouTube channel. Known for his expertise in Linux and TypeScript, Chris discusses various tech, languages, and frameworks, and shares his experiences building an educational YouTube channel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:53) - Whiskey: 77 Breuckelen Distilling local whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(12:03) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(16:23) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(29:05) - Ruby vs PHP&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(34:52) - What’s the best way to learn Vim?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(41:03) - Is Linux the best OS for developers?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:36) - Foodie YouTube&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(51:40) - Twitch streaming&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(54:56) - Alternative careers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(56:04) - Conferences and Rails World&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Breuckelen Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brkdistilling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brkdistilling.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Johnny Cash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dave Matthews: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.davematthewsband.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.davematthewsband.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ruby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;NeoVim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;NeoVim for Noobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim-for-noobs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neovim-for-noobs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Burger Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Pasta Grannies: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;J. Kenji López-Alt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Matty Matheson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;First We Feast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;You Suck at Cooking: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Binging with Babish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails World: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chris&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typecraft.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">86b17e91-7442-43b3-85a0-c6a9b416f24c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/nwk5n1dz75v8rrq5iasyqbrt.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Power, the creator behind the Typecraft YouTube channel. Known for his expertise in Linux and TypeScript, Chris discusses various tech, languages, and frameworks, and shares his experiences building an educational YouTube channel.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(03:53) - Whiskey: 77 Breuckelen Distilling local whiskey</li>
 <li>(12:03) - Whiskey rating</li>
 <li>(16:23) - Hot takes</li>
  <li>(29:05) - Ruby vs PHP</li>
  <li>(34:52) - What’s the best way to learn Vim?</li>
  <li>(41:03) - Is Linux the best OS for developers?</li>
  <li>(48:36) - Foodie YouTube</li>
  <li>(51:40) - Twitch streaming</li>
  <li>(54:56) - Alternative careers</li>
  <li>(56:04) - Conferences and Rails World</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Breuckelen Distilling: <a href="https://brkdistilling.com/" target="_blank">https://brkdistilling.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Johnny Cash: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash</a>
</li>
  <li>TypeScript: <a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.typescriptlang.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Vim: <a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank">https://www.vim.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Linux: <a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">https://www.linux.org</a>
</li>
  <li>TailwindCSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Dave Matthews: <a href="https://www.davematthewsband.com/" target="_blank">https://www.davematthewsband.com</a>
</li>
  <li>PHP: <a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">https://www.php.net</a>
</li>
  <li>Ruby: <a href="https://www.ruby-lang.org/" target="_blank">https://www.ruby-lang.org</a>
</li>
  <li>NeoVim: <a href="https://neovim.io/" target="_blank">https://neovim.io</a>
</li>
  <li>VS Code: <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">https://code.visualstudio.com</a>
</li>
  <li>DHH: <a href="https://x.com/dhh" target="_blank">https://x.com/dhh</a>
</li>
  <li>NeoVim for Noobs: <a href="https://neovim-for-noobs.com/" target="_blank">https://neovim-for-noobs.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Twitch: <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv</a>
</li>
  <li>Discord: <a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">https://discord.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Hot Ones: <a href="https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones" target="_blank">https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones</a>
</li>
  <li>The Burger Show: <a href="https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show" target="_blank">https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show</a>
</li>
  <li>Pasta Grannies: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies</a>
</li>
  <li>J. Kenji López-Alt: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt</a>
</li>
  <li>Matty Matheson: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson</a>
</li>
  <li>First We Feast: <a href="https://www.firstwefeast.com/" target="_blank">https://www.firstwefeast.com</a>
</li>
  <li>You Suck at Cooking: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking</a>
</li>
  <li>Binging with Babish: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse</a>
</li>
  <li>Jeff Bezos: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos</a>
</li>
  <li>EmberFest: <a href="https://emberfest.eu/" target="_blank">https://emberfest.eu</a>
</li>
  <li>Rails World: <a href="https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024" target="_blank">https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024</a>
</li>
  <li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chris</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Website: <a href="https://www.typecraft.dev/" target="_blank">https://www.typecraft.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/typecraft_dev" target="_blank">https://x.com/typecraft_dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Twitch: <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chuck and Robbie</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Website: <a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fm</a>
</li>
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</li>
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</li>
  <li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
  <li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Typecraft: TypeScript, Vim, Foodie YouTube, Linux, and More!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nwk5n1dz75v8rrq5iasyqbrt/y72i9k5tbr7uwiu30kdhflve.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3750</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>156</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Chris Power, the creator behind the Typecraft YouTube channel. Known for his expertise in Linux and TypeScript, Chris discusses various tech, languages, and frameworks, and shares his experiences building an educational YouTube channel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:53) - Whiskey: 77 Breuckelen Distilling local whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(12:03) - Whiskey rating&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(16:23) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(29:05) - Ruby vs PHP&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(34:52) - What’s the best way to learn Vim?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(41:03) - Is Linux the best OS for developers?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:36) - Foodie YouTube&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(51:40) - Twitch streaming&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(54:56) - Alternative careers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(56:04) - Conferences and Rails World&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Breuckelen Distilling: &lt;a href=&#34;https://brkdistilling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://brkdistilling.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Johnny Cash: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TypeScript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typescriptlang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vim.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Linux: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linux.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dave Matthews: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.davematthewsband.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.davematthewsband.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;PHP: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.php.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ruby: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.ruby-lang.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;NeoVim: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neovim.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;VS Code: &lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://code.visualstudio.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;DHH: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/dhh&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/dhh&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;NeoVim for Noobs: &lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim-for-noobs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://neovim-for-noobs.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Discord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://discord.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hot Ones: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/hot-ones&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Burger Show: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com/show/the-burger-show&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Pasta Grannies: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/pastagrannies&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;J. Kenji López-Alt: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@JKenjiLopezAlt&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Matty Matheson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@mattymatheson&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;First We Feast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstwefeast.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.firstwefeast.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;You Suck at Cooking: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/yousuckatcooking&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Binging with Babish: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@babishculinaryuniverse&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jeff Bezos: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rails World: &lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://rubyonrails.org/world/2024&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chris&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typecraft.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.typecraft.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/typecraft_dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Twitch: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/typecraft&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chuck and Robbie&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/vhvtj3y76rfb03yt0jlylz08/thumbnail-vhvtj3y76rfb03yt0jlylz08.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/vhvtj3y76rfb03yt0jlylz08/thumbnail-vhvtj3y76rfb03yt0jlylz08.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nwk5n1dz75v8rrq5iasyqbrt/ld7xtoaw7y4x9zri6qg90igm/transcoded-01KECKE35RZH416NSBF46TV3JQ-01KECKE35RGXTNQWJM7C9A1PKS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Htmx, Open Source, Retro Tech, and Dev Tools with Carson Gross</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Carson Gross about his journey in web development, including the creation of htmx and its predecessor, intercooler.js. They touch on the differences between front-end libraries, the importance of timing in tech adoption, and the relevance of older technologies. Carson also talks about his love for baseball, retro software, and the potential for a return to simpler and more varied tech tools and hardware.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:39) - Meet Carson Gross&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:25) - Whiskey tasting: Bullet Rye 12 Year&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(11:45) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(21:32) - htmx vs intercooler.js&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(24:04) - Meme culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(31:43) - Open source and community engagement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:14) - Pick the tech stack you like&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(42:15) - Teaching cloud computing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:01) - Carson’s non-tech career&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(58:43) - Retro tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Intercooler vs htmx. They&#39;re the same thing. One of my takeaways from that is that timing is really, really important. Intercooler was too early. And we&#39;ve seen that before in tech. If timing is what matters then the longer you can hang around, the more likely you are to catch that timing at some point.” ~ Carson Gross&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“As I&#39;ve gotten older, I&#39;ve stopped looking for the one true programming language  and the one true way to  do X or Y or Z. There&#39;s a lot of different ways to get stuff done. And I like that there are people doing them different ways and that they&#39;ve got their different take on things.” ~ Carson Gross&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Montana State University: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.montana.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.montana.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jameson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bulleit 12 Year Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Stagg JR: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Redbreast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OCaml: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ocaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ocaml.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HyperCard Programmer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Thinking in Java: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;JetBrains: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;IntercoolerJS / intercoolerjs.org: &lt;a href=&#34;https://intercoolerjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://intercoolerjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Manning: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manning.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manning.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Teej_dv: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Fireship - htmx in 100 seconds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hacker News: &lt;a href=&#34;https://news.ycombinator.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;sst.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sst.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sst.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dax Raad: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Open Next on GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;floppydisks.com: &lt;a href=&#34;https://floppydisks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://floppydisks.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Zork Game: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;hyperscript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://hyperscript.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hyperscript.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;unpoly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://unpoly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://unpoly.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Analogue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Parov Stelar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Carson&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://hypermedia.systems/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hypermedia.systems&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Htmx: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Apple Podcasts: &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Spotify: &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Overcast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;YouTube: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d9f225b0-67b4-4fd0-baeb-919bafa1ab81</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/blc1wc2n4u22f0dpmp8k9y9z.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Carson Gross about his journey in web development, including the creation of htmx and its predecessor, intercooler.js. They touch on the differences between front-end libraries, the importance of timing in tech adoption, and the relevance of older technologies. Carson also talks about his love for baseball, retro software, and the potential for a return to simpler and more varied tech tools and hardware.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:39) - Meet Carson Gross</li>
 <li>(03:25) - Whiskey tasting: Bullet Rye 12 Year</li>
 <li>(11:45) - Hot takes</li>
 <li>(21:32) - htmx vs intercooler.js</li>
 <li>(24:04) - Meme culture</li>
  <li>(31:43) - Open source and community engagement</li>
  <li>(36:14) - Pick the tech stack you like</li>
  <li>(42:15) - Teaching cloud computing</li>
  <li>(48:01) - Carson’s non-tech career</li>
  <li>(58:43) - Retro tech</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong><br>“Intercooler vs htmx. They're the same thing. One of my takeaways from that is that timing is really, really important. Intercooler was too early. And we've seen that before in tech. If timing is what matters then the longer you can hang around, the more likely you are to catch that timing at some point.” ~ Carson Gross</p>
<p>“As I've gotten older, I've stopped looking for the one true programming language  and the one true way to  do X or Y or Z. There's a lot of different ways to get stuff done. And I like that there are people doing them different ways and that they've got their different take on things.” ~ Carson Gross</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Montana State University: <a href="https://www.montana.edu/" target="_blank">https://www.montana.edu</a>
</li>
  <li>Jameson: <a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Bulleit 12 Year Rye: <a href="https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye" target="_blank">https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye</a>
</li>
  <li>Stagg JR: <a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr</a>
</li>
  <li>Maker’s Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Redbreast: <a href="https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com</a>
</li>
  <li>OCaml: <a href="https://ocaml.org/" target="_blank">https://ocaml.org</a>
</li>
  <li>HyperCard Programmer: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard</a>
</li>
  <li>Vercel: <a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">https://vercel.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Thinking in Java: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486</a>
</li>
  <li>JetBrains: <a href="https://www.jetbrains.com/" target="_blank">https://www.jetbrains.com</a>
</li>
  <li>TailwindCSS: <a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">https://tailwindcss.com</a>
</li>
  <li>IntercoolerJS / intercoolerjs.org: <a href="https://intercoolerjs.org/" target="_blank">https://intercoolerjs.org</a>
</li>
  <li>Big Sky Dev Con: <a href="https://bigskydevcon.com/" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Manning: <a href="https://www.manning.com/" target="_blank">https://www.manning.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Teej_dv: <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv</a>
</li>
  <li>Fireship - htmx in 100 seconds: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs</a>
</li>
  <li>Hacker News: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/" target="_blank">https://news.ycombinator.com</a>
</li>
  <li>sst.dev: <a href="https://sst.dev/" target="_blank">https://sst.dev</a>
</li>
  <li>Dax Raad: <a href="https://x.com/thdxr" target="_blank">https://x.com/thdxr</a>
</li>
  <li>Open Next on GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next" target="_blank">https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next</a>
</li>
  <li>floppydisks.com: <a href="https://floppydisks.com/" target="_blank">https://floppydisks.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Zork Game: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork</a>
</li>
  <li>hyperscript: <a href="https://hyperscript.org/" target="_blank">https://hyperscript.org</a>
</li>
  <li>unpoly: <a href="https://unpoly.com/" target="_blank">https://unpoly.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Analogue: <a href="https://www.analogue.co/" target="_blank">https://www.analogue.co</a>
</li>
  <li>Parov Stelar: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Carson</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Website: <a href="https://hypermedia.systems/" target="_blank">https://hypermedia.systems</a>
</li>
  <li>Htmx: <a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">https://htmx.org</a>
</li>
  <li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/htmx_org" target="_blank">https://x.com/htmx_org</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a>
</li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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</li>
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</li>
  <li>Overcast: <a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603</a>
</li>
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&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:39) - Meet Carson Gross&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(03:25) - Whiskey tasting: Bullet Rye 12 Year&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(11:45) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(21:32) - htmx vs intercooler.js&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(24:04) - Meme culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(31:43) - Open source and community engagement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:14) - Pick the tech stack you like&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(42:15) - Teaching cloud computing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:01) - Carson’s non-tech career&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(58:43) - Retro tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Intercooler vs htmx. They&#39;re the same thing. One of my takeaways from that is that timing is really, really important. Intercooler was too early. And we&#39;ve seen that before in tech. If timing is what matters then the longer you can hang around, the more likely you are to catch that timing at some point.” ~ Carson Gross&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“As I&#39;ve gotten older, I&#39;ve stopped looking for the one true programming language  and the one true way to  do X or Y or Z. There&#39;s a lot of different ways to get stuff done. And I like that there are people doing them different ways and that they&#39;ve got their different take on things.” ~ Carson Gross&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Montana State University: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.montana.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.montana.edu&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Jameson: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bulleit 12 Year Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskey/bulleit-12-year-old-rye&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Stagg JR: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/brands/stagg-jr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Maker’s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Redbreast: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OCaml: &lt;a href=&#34;https://ocaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://ocaml.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;HyperCard Programmer: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vercel: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vercel.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Thinking in Java: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Java-4th-Bruce-Eckel/dp/0131872486&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;JetBrains: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jetbrains.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.jetbrains.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;TailwindCSS: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tailwindcss.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;IntercoolerJS / intercoolerjs.org: &lt;a href=&#34;https://intercoolerjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://intercoolerjs.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Manning: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manning.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.manning.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Teej_dv: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.twitch.tv/teej_dv&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Fireship - htmx in 100 seconds: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-GSGH2RxJs&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Hacker News: &lt;a href=&#34;https://news.ycombinator.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://news.ycombinator.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;sst.dev: &lt;a href=&#34;https://sst.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://sst.dev&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Dax Raad: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/thdxr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Open Next on GitHub: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/serverless-stack/open-next&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;floppydisks.com: &lt;a href=&#34;https://floppydisks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://floppydisks.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Zork Game: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;hyperscript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://hyperscript.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hyperscript.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;unpoly: &lt;a href=&#34;https://unpoly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://unpoly.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Analogue: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.analogue.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.analogue.co&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Parov Stelar: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVtnG15ufdzur71RqfqNSOg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Carson&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Website: &lt;a href=&#34;https://hypermedia.systems/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://hypermedia.systems&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Htmx: &lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://htmx.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/htmx_org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/htmx_org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kxjaktsdxaa6pmw4sv907eo3/thumbnail-kxjaktsdxaa6pmw4sv907eo3.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/kxjaktsdxaa6pmw4sv907eo3/thumbnail-kxjaktsdxaa6pmw4sv907eo3.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/blc1wc2n4u22f0dpmp8k9y9z/s1wqdulazbzcfs9jke0yf767/transcoded-01KECKE20329MNJK0YC6M8BKC6-01KECKE203ZHJ9G078700KVE8W_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Coding Languages, AI, and the Evolution of Game Development with Philip Winston</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Philip Winston about various web development best practices, the intricacies of working with multiple languages within the same codebase, and how software development has evolved. They also explore the evolution of gaming technology, the challenges of testing and distributing software in the past, and the potential future applications of AI and VR.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Meet Philip Winston&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(04:37) - Medley Brothers Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(11:23) - Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:54) - VR Gaming and Future Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(26:29) - Robots and Street Gangs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(28:26) - AI in Movies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(28:51) - NVIDIA&#39;s Journey: From Graphics to AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(29:45) - The Evolution of Gaming Technology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(35:13) - The Role of Different Programming Languages in Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:55) - The Future of Gaming&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:39) - Self-Driving Cars and Future Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(51:10) - Alternative Careers: Photography and Video Editing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:17) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The connection between the graphics and the AI, to me, is you&#39;re both kind of computing reality. In both cases, you&#39;re just doing lots of matrix multiplies. That&#39;s what graphics is, and that&#39;s what AI is. You&#39;re just multiplying matrices. Lots and lots and lots of them.” ~ Philip Winston&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“You need as much help as you can to make a complicated thing like a game. This is where the modding community comes from. It&#39;s like, we&#39;re making the engine, but it&#39;s easy to add the content. The next step is your customers can add the content.” ~ Philip Winston&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotrace.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Descript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://descript.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://descript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Adobe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://adobe.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adobe.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Guitar Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rock Band: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rockband4.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rockband4.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Superhot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Software Engineering Radio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://se-radio.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://se-radio.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nvidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;RoboCop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ex Machina: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Die Antwoord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Elon Musk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/elonmusk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/elonmusk&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Philip&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tobeva: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tobeva.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tobeva.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Metastable: &lt;a href=&#34;https://metastable.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://metastable.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;http://twitter.com/pbwinston&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://twitter.com/pbwinston&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">00a51016-161f-42ad-aed5-2551ebc62c9b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/eg5hdfnxvpvng02gkkkd17q8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Philip Winston about various web development best practices, the intricacies of working with multiple languages within the same codebase, and how software development has evolved. They also explore the evolution of gaming technology, the challenges of testing and distributing software in the past, and the potential future applications of AI and VR.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:26) - Meet Philip Winston</li>
  <li>(04:37) - Medley Brothers Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey</li>
  <li>(11:23) - Hot Takes</li>
  <li>(21:54) - VR Gaming and Future Tech</li>
  <li>(26:29) - Robots and Street Gangs</li>
  <li>(28:26) - AI in Movies</li>
  <li>(28:51) - NVIDIA's Journey: From Graphics to AI</li>
  <li>(29:45) - The Evolution of Gaming Technology</li>
  <li>(35:13) - The Role of Different Programming Languages in Development</li>
  <li>(44:55) - The Future of Gaming</li>
  <li>(48:39) - Self-Driving Cars and Future Tech</li>
  <li>(51:10) - Alternative Careers: Photography and Video Editing</li>
  <li>(55:17) - Plugs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>“The connection between the graphics and the AI, to me, is you're both kind of computing reality. In both cases, you're just doing lots of matrix multiplies. That's what graphics is, and that's what AI is. You're just multiplying matrices. Lots and lots and lots of them.” ~ Philip Winston</p>
<p>“You need as much help as you can to make a complicated thing like a game. This is where the modding community comes from. It's like, we're making the engine, but it's easy to add the content. The next step is your customers can add the content.” ~ Philip Winston</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong> </p>
<ul>
  <li>Buffalo Trace: <a href="https://www.buffalotrace.com" target="_blank">https://www.buffalotrace.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Maker's Mark: <a href="https://www.makersmark.com" target="_blank">https://www.makersmark.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Descript: <a href="https://descript.com" target="_blank">https://descript.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Adobe: <a href="https://adobe.com" target="_blank">https://adobe.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Guitar Hero: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero</a>
</li>
  <li>Rock Band: <a href="https://www.rockband4.com" target="_blank">https://www.rockband4.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Superhot: <a href="https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407" target="_blank">https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407</a>
</li>
  <li>Software Engineering Radio: <a href="https://se-radio.net" target="_blank">https://se-radio.net</a>
</li>
  <li>Nvidia: <a href="https://www.nvidia.com" target="_blank">https://www.nvidia.com</a>
</li>
  <li>ChatGPT: <a href="https://chatgpt.com" target="_blank">https://chatgpt.com</a>
</li>
  <li>RoboCop: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop</a>
</li>
  <li>Ex Machina: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)</a>
</li>
  <li>Die Antwoord: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord</a>
</li>
  <li>Elon Musk: <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" target="_blank">https://x.com/elonmusk</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Philip</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Tobeva: <a href="https://tobeva.com" target="_blank">https://tobeva.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Metastable: <a href="https://metastable.org" target="_blank">https://metastable.org</a>
</li>
  <li>X / Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/pbwinston" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/pbwinston</a>
</li>
  <li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pwinston" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/pwinston</a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a> </li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a> </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Coding Languages, AI, and the Evolution of Game Development with Philip Winston</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/eg5hdfnxvpvng02gkkkd17q8/i9oaw1ba4lvx5sje4si9sj5z.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3449</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>154</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie and Chuck talk with Philip Winston about various web development best practices, the intricacies of working with multiple languages within the same codebase, and how software development has evolved. They also explore the evolution of gaming technology, the challenges of testing and distributing software in the past, and the potential future applications of AI and VR.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Meet Philip Winston&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(04:37) - Medley Brothers Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(11:23) - Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(21:54) - VR Gaming and Future Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(26:29) - Robots and Street Gangs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(28:26) - AI in Movies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(28:51) - NVIDIA&#39;s Journey: From Graphics to AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(29:45) - The Evolution of Gaming Technology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(35:13) - The Role of Different Programming Languages in Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(44:55) - The Future of Gaming&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(48:39) - Self-Driving Cars and Future Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(51:10) - Alternative Careers: Photography and Video Editing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:17) - Plugs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The connection between the graphics and the AI, to me, is you&#39;re both kind of computing reality. In both cases, you&#39;re just doing lots of matrix multiplies. That&#39;s what graphics is, and that&#39;s what AI is. You&#39;re just multiplying matrices. Lots and lots and lots of them.” ~ Philip Winston&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“You need as much help as you can to make a complicated thing like a game. This is where the modding community comes from. It&#39;s like, we&#39;re making the engine, but it&#39;s easy to add the content. The next step is your customers can add the content.” ~ Philip Winston&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.buffalotrace.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.makersmark.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Descript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://descript.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://descript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Adobe: &lt;a href=&#34;https://adobe.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://adobe.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Guitar Hero: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Rock Band: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rockband4.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.rockband4.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Superhot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.meta.com/experiences/1921533091289407&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Software Engineering Radio: &lt;a href=&#34;https://se-radio.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://se-radio.net&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Nvidia: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.nvidia.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;ChatGPT: &lt;a href=&#34;https://chatgpt.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://chatgpt.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;RoboCop: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ex Machina: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Die Antwoord: &lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Antwoord&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Elon Musk: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/elonmusk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/elonmusk&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Philip&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Tobeva: &lt;a href=&#34;https://tobeva.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://tobeva.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Metastable: &lt;a href=&#34;https://metastable.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://metastable.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;http://twitter.com/pbwinston&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;http://twitter.com/pbwinston&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;LinkedIn: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pwinston&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pwinston&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ht3ppuuegnc8m8udq5qmw44c/thumbnail-ht3ppuuegnc8m8udq5qmw44c.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/ht3ppuuegnc8m8udq5qmw44c/thumbnail-ht3ppuuegnc8m8udq5qmw44c.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/eg5hdfnxvpvng02gkkkd17q8/v7lixf8db54s0j3l1gneqc3z/transcoded-01KECKDZCY0CPQ4R1XYK6S8BVN-01KECKDZCY4S1Y4CSRPR8F7F2N_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Disappointing Whiskey, Pizza Debates, and Tech Conference Adventures</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III review a disappointing whiskey that leaves them questioning their life choices, discuss their lackluster food experiences in Italy, and chat about various tech conferences and events, including Emberfest, All Things Open, Microsoft Build, React Miami, and Big Sky Dev Con. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Podcast ideas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(03:03) - Whiskey - Van Brunt Stillhouse tasting and review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(14:24) - Travel stories and food experiences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(24:08) - Upcoming conferences and events&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(30:55) - Ancient structures and modern towns&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(31:41) - The evolution of pizza&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(32:25) - Travel plans and personal updates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(33:50) - Challenges of content creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:00) - Microsoft Build Conference highlights&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(40:55) - Food adventures and office culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(46:45) - Fashion and nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:57) - Language learning and travel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(52:30) - Final plugs and show recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Microsoft Build: “There is a lot of AI-centric, like, with every company, right? Everybody&#39;s just trying to throw a bunch of shit against the wall to see what&#39;s going to work out.” ~ Charles William Carpenter III&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: “It&#39;s like if you were trying to make a whiskey candle that actually smelled like shit.” ~ RobbieTheWagner&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Microsoft Build: &lt;a href=&#34;https://build.microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://build.microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Github Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Descript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.descript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Duolingo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.duolingo.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.duolingo.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;WWDC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Gentlemen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Peaky Blinders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd Pro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdpro.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shepherdpro.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Adam Elmore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamdotdev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamdotdev&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Stanley Tucci: Searching For Italy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">91f834d8-339e-4ce1-a9aa-c5e891422d3a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ocivamtfcj7s6mq7hkokw2y2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III review a disappointing whiskey that leaves them questioning their life choices, discuss their lackluster food experiences in Italy, and chat about various tech conferences and events, including Emberfest, All Things Open, Microsoft Build, React Miami, and Big Sky Dev Con. </p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:26) - Podcast ideas</li>
  <li>(03:03) - Whiskey - Van Brunt Stillhouse tasting and review</li>
  <li>(14:24) - Travel stories and food experiences</li>
  <li>(24:08) - Upcoming conferences and events</li>
  <li>(30:55) - Ancient structures and modern towns</li>
  <li>(31:41) - The evolution of pizza</li>
  <li>(32:25) - Travel plans and personal updates</li>
  <li>(33:50) - Challenges of content creation</li>
  <li>(36:00) - Microsoft Build Conference highlights</li>
  <li>(40:55) - Food adventures and office culture</li>
  <li>(46:45) - Fashion and nostalgia</li>
  <li>(50:57) - Language learning and travel</li>
  <li>(52:30) - Final plugs and show recommendations</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>On Microsoft Build: “There is a lot of AI-centric, like, with every company, right? Everybody's just trying to throw a bunch of shit against the wall to see what's going to work out.” ~ Charles William Carpenter III</p>
<p>On Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: “It's like if you were trying to make a whiskey candle that actually smelled like shit.” ~ RobbieTheWagner</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: <a href="https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com" target="_blank">https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com</a> </li>
  <li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a> </li>
  <li>EmberFest: <a href="https://emberfest.eu" target="_blank">https://emberfest.eu</a> </li>
  <li>All Things Open: <a href="https://allthingsopen.org" target="_blank">https://allthingsopen.org</a> </li>
  <li>Microsoft Build: <a href="https://build.microsoft.com" target="_blank">https://build.microsoft.com</a> </li>
  <li>React Miami: <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com</a> </li>
  <li>Big Sky Dev Con: <a href="https://bigskydevcon.com" target="_blank">https://bigskydevcon.com</a>  </li>
  <li>OpenAI: <a href="https://openai.com" target="_blank">https://openai.com</a> </li>
  <li>Github Copilot: <a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">https://github.com/features/copilot</a> </li>
  <li>Descript: <a href="https://www.descript.com" target="_blank">https://www.descript.com</a>
</li>
  <li>Duolingo: <a href="https://www.duolingo.com" target="_blank">https://www.duolingo.com</a> </li>
  <li>WWDC: <a href="https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24" target="_blank">https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24</a>
</li>
  <li>The Gentlemen: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838</a> </li>
  <li>Peaky Blinders: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560</a> </li>
  <li>Shepherd Pro: <a href="https://shepherdpro.com" target="_blank">https://shepherdpro.com</a> </li>
  <li>Adam Elmore: <a href="https://x.com/adamdotdev" target="_blank">https://x.com/adamdotdev</a> </li>
  <li>Stanley Tucci: Searching For Italy: <a href="https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08" target="_blank">https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08</a> </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a> </li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a> </li>
</ul>
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Disappointing Whiskey, Pizza Debates, and Tech Conference Adventures</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ocivamtfcj7s6mq7hkokw2y2/kvn9fsmoib0dica2e801dnvq.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3350</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>153</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III review a disappointing whiskey that leaves them questioning their life choices, discuss their lackluster food experiences in Italy, and chat about various tech conferences and events, including Emberfest, All Things Open, Microsoft Build, React Miami, and Big Sky Dev Con. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Podcast ideas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(03:03) - Whiskey - Van Brunt Stillhouse tasting and review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(14:24) - Travel stories and food experiences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(24:08) - Upcoming conferences and events&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(30:55) - Ancient structures and modern towns&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(31:41) - The evolution of pizza&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(32:25) - Travel plans and personal updates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(33:50) - Challenges of content creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:00) - Microsoft Build Conference highlights&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(40:55) - Food adventures and office culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(46:45) - Fashion and nostalgia&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(50:57) - Language learning and travel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(52:30) - Final plugs and show recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Microsoft Build: “There is a lot of AI-centric, like, with every company, right? Everybody&#39;s just trying to throw a bunch of shit against the wall to see what&#39;s going to work out.” ~ Charles William Carpenter III&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: “It&#39;s like if you were trying to make a whiskey candle that actually smelled like shit.” ~ RobbieTheWagner&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Van Brunt Stillhouse Whiskey: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.vanbruntstillhouse.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;All Things Open: &lt;a href=&#34;https://allthingsopen.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://allthingsopen.org&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Microsoft Build: &lt;a href=&#34;https://build.microsoft.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://build.microsoft.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;React Miami: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Big Sky Dev Con: &lt;a href=&#34;https://bigskydevcon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://bigskydevcon.com&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;OpenAI: &lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://openai.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Github Copilot: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/features/copilot&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Descript: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.descript.com&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Duolingo: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.duolingo.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.duolingo.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;WWDC: &lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc24&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The Gentlemen: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13210838&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Peaky Blinders: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Shepherd Pro: &lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdpro.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://shepherdpro.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Adam Elmore: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/adamdotdev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/adamdotdev&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Stanley Tucci: Searching For Italy: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.max.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy/9f43902e-d10b-436f-8611-f85bf29e2d08&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/e7p4v3jmrmrvcdlkptmcdmub/thumbnail-e7p4v3jmrmrvcdlkptmcdmub.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/e7p4v3jmrmrvcdlkptmcdmub/thumbnail-e7p4v3jmrmrvcdlkptmcdmub.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ocivamtfcj7s6mq7hkokw2y2/h1bxf1y7epmqcij63hah7y87/transcoded-01KECKDYMXDBZDYM1SCW3M7B25-01KECKDYMXRHEGNQBMHNHJ1CDP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Future of Ember and Modern Build Tools with Chris Manson</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie talks with Chris Manson about the intricacies of JavaScript classes, the evolving landscape of React and Ember, and the benefits of using Vite in modern app development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Over a Bulleit Rye, Robbie and Chris discuss the benefits of Ember for long-term stability and its backward compatibility, highlighting tooling like generators and integration tests that make Ember stand out. Transitioning toward modern web development, they examine the role of Vite and the ongoing efforts to integrate it with Ember, promising a future of faster rebuilds and cleaner dependencies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Meet Chris Manson&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(02:41) - Whiskey - Bulleit Rye&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(07:44) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(15:50) - Do we need SSR?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(20:09) - Ember.js and modern build tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(32:25) - React vs. Ember&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:06) - Modernizing Ember with Embroider&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(40:22) - The technical challenges of Embroider&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(45:43) - Ember&#39;s inversion of control&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:46) - Ember&#39;s backward compatibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(59:31) - EmberFest&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Because we&#39;re so opinionated in Ember, we&#39;re able to make decisions about your app that other frameworks aren&#39;t able to make, essentially. So we can say oh okay, we&#39;re cutting out all the stuff you&#39;re not using. That&#39;s the dead code elimination.” ~ Chris Manson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We use generators in Ember. Very few other frameworks use generators. You generate a component in Ember and it instantly creates an integration test that renders that component and checks the contents of it and gives you ways to interact with it, to click it, to check the contents and encourages you to put more tests in that file.” ~ Chris Manson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bulleit Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Embroider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vitejs.dev&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chris&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/real_ate&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7bdda2e7-000b-45b6-a316-6373725bddfd</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/w15qd64t5del71sbjr2t3w1o.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie talks with Chris Manson about the intricacies of JavaScript classes, the evolving landscape of React and Ember, and the benefits of using Vite in modern app development.</p>
<p>Over a Bulleit Rye, Robbie and Chris discuss the benefits of Ember for long-term stability and its backward compatibility, highlighting tooling like generators and integration tests that make Ember stand out. Transitioning toward modern web development, they examine the role of Vite and the ongoing efforts to integrate it with Ember, promising a future of faster rebuilds and cleaner dependencies.</p>
<p>In this episode:</p>
<ul>
 <li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
 <li>(01:26) - Meet Chris Manson</li>
  <li>(02:41) - Whiskey - Bulleit Rye</li>
  <li>(07:44) - Hot takes</li>
  <li>(15:50) - Do we need SSR?</li>
  <li>(20:09) - Ember.js and modern build tools</li>
  <li>(32:25) - React vs. Ember</li>
  <li>(36:06) - Modernizing Ember with Embroider</li>
  <li>(40:22) - The technical challenges of Embroider</li>
  <li>(45:43) - Ember's inversion of control</li>
  <li>(55:46) - Ember's backward compatibility</li>
  <li>(59:31) - EmberFest</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>“Because we're so opinionated in Ember, we're able to make decisions about your app that other frameworks aren't able to make, essentially. So we can say oh okay, we're cutting out all the stuff you're not using. That's the dead code elimination.” ~ Chris Manson</p>
<p>“We use generators in Ember. Very few other frameworks use generators. You generate a component in Ember and it instantly creates an integration test that renders that component and checks the contents of it and gives you ways to interact with it, to click it, to check the contents and encourages you to put more tests in that file.” ~ Chris Manson</p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Bulleit Rye: <a href="https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey" target="_blank">https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey</a> </li>
  <li>Ember: <a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">https://emberjs.com</a> </li>
  <li>Embroider: <a href="https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider" target="_blank">https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider</a> </li>
  <li>Vite: <a href="https://vitejs.dev" target="_blank">https://vitejs.dev</a> </li>
  <li>EmberFest: <a href="https://emberfest.eu" target="_blank">https://emberfest.eu</a> </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Chris</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>X / Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/real_ate" target="_blank">https://x.com/real_ate</a>  </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robbie Wagner: <a href="https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner</a> </li>
  <li>Chuck Carpenter: <a href="https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd</a> </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong><br>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund</a>. </p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Future of Ember and Modern Build Tools with Chris Manson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w15qd64t5del71sbjr2t3w1o/zfpw0tcv4dspstelo95iea3a.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4014</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>152</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, Robbie talks with Chris Manson about the intricacies of JavaScript classes, the evolving landscape of React and Ember, and the benefits of using Vite in modern app development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Over a Bulleit Rye, Robbie and Chris discuss the benefits of Ember for long-term stability and its backward compatibility, highlighting tooling like generators and integration tests that make Ember stand out. Transitioning toward modern web development, they examine the role of Vite and the ongoing efforts to integrate it with Ember, promising a future of faster rebuilds and cleaner dependencies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(00:00) - Intro&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;(01:26) - Meet Chris Manson&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(02:41) - Whiskey - Bulleit Rye&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(07:44) - Hot takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(15:50) - Do we need SSR?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(20:09) - Ember.js and modern build tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(32:25) - React vs. Ember&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(36:06) - Modernizing Ember with Embroider&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(40:22) - The technical challenges of Embroider&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(45:43) - Ember&#39;s inversion of control&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(55:46) - Ember&#39;s backward compatibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;(59:31) - EmberFest&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Because we&#39;re so opinionated in Ember, we&#39;re able to make decisions about your app that other frameworks aren&#39;t able to make, essentially. So we can say oh okay, we&#39;re cutting out all the stuff you&#39;re not using. That&#39;s the dead code elimination.” ~ Chris Manson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We use generators in Ember. Very few other frameworks use generators. You generate a component in Ember and it instantly creates an integration test that renders that component and checks the contents of it and gives you ways to interact with it, to click it, to check the contents and encourages you to put more tests in that file.” ~ Chris Manson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Bulleit Rye: &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.bulleit.com/whiskeys/bulleit-rye-whiskey&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Ember: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberjs.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Embroider: &lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Vite: &lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://vitejs.dev&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;EmberFest: &lt;a href=&#34;https://emberfest.eu&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://emberfest.eu&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with Chris&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;X / Twitter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/real_ate&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Robbie Wagner: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Chuck Carpenter: &lt;a href=&#34;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/enmpcnks6qfbf7how34dn6mb/thumbnail-enmpcnks6qfbf7how34dn6mb.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/enmpcnks6qfbf7how34dn6mb/thumbnail-enmpcnks6qfbf7how34dn6mb.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w15qd64t5del71sbjr2t3w1o/n5gfwhu0pc99ny9hp7b95b8m/transcoded-01KECKE2NQZ05PGAQN30C8AM5M-01KECKE2NQ0RFFX98M96R0KGAS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Edge Browser and PWAs: A New Era in Web Development with Diego Gonzales</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle share a drink with Diego Gonzalez, a PM working on the Edge team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The discussion centers on progressive web apps (PWAs), with Diego outlining his role in standardizing platform features and the various advantages of PWAs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The trio also debates the value of vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind, discusses their favorite development tools, and even dives into the nuances of whiskey tasting with a focus on a particular blend from Woodinville. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Tune in for a blend of tech insights, humor, and whiskey reviews.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Podcast Welcome&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:36] - Sponsor Message: Wix Studio&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:30] - Special Guest Introduction: Diego Gonzalez&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - Discussion on Progressive Web Apps (PWAs)&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:07] - Whiskey Tasting Session&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:08] - Browser Wars and Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:38] - Future of PWAs and Microsoft Store&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:35] - Understanding PWAs: A Developer&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:21] - The Android vs. Apple Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:44] - The Smartwatch Dilemma&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:15] - Travel Tales and Photography&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:36] - European Culture and Humor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:12] - Final Thoughts and Tech Tips&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/diekus/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diego Gonzales LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/download?form=MA13FJ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Edge Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">681c86be-442e-4934-a06d-e572164ef33d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/k3b8sy3tckrjmlvknapq7r4b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle share a drink with Diego Gonzalez, a PM working on the Edge team. </p>
<p>
The discussion centers on progressive web apps (PWAs), with Diego outlining his role in standardizing platform features and the various advantages of PWAs. </p>
<p>
The trio also debates the value of vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind, discusses their favorite development tools, and even dives into the nuances of whiskey tasting with a focus on a particular blend from Woodinville. </p>
<p>
Tune in for a blend of tech insights, humor, and whiskey reviews.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Introduction and Podcast Welcome</li>
 <li>[00:36] - Sponsor Message: Wix Studio</li>
  <li>[01:30] - Special Guest Introduction: Diego Gonzalez</li>
  <li>[01:47] - Discussion on Progressive Web Apps (PWAs)</li>
  <li>[04:07] - Whiskey Tasting Session</li>
  <li>[13:08] - Browser Wars and Hot Takes</li>
  <li>[22:38] - Future of PWAs and Microsoft Store</li>
  <li>[30:35] - Understanding PWAs: A Developer's Perspective</li>
  <li>[31:21] - The Android vs. Apple Debate</li>
  <li>[32:44] - The Smartwatch Dilemma</li>
  <li>[34:15] - Travel Tales and Photography</li>
  <li>[38:36] - European Culture and Humor</li>
  <li>[48:12] - Final Thoughts and Tech Tips</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/diekus/" target="_blank">Diego Gonzales LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/download?form=MA13FJ" target="_blank">Edge Browser</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
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</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Edge Browser and PWAs: A New Era in Web Development with Diego Gonzales</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/k3b8sy3tckrjmlvknapq7r4b/nnn51oynqhnsyj802v8yoki1.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>151</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle share a drink with Diego Gonzalez, a PM working on the Edge team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The discussion centers on progressive web apps (PWAs), with Diego outlining his role in standardizing platform features and the various advantages of PWAs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The trio also debates the value of vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind, discusses their favorite development tools, and even dives into the nuances of whiskey tasting with a focus on a particular blend from Woodinville. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Tune in for a blend of tech insights, humor, and whiskey reviews.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Podcast Welcome&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:36] - Sponsor Message: Wix Studio&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:30] - Special Guest Introduction: Diego Gonzalez&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - Discussion on Progressive Web Apps (PWAs)&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:07] - Whiskey Tasting Session&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:08] - Browser Wars and Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:38] - Future of PWAs and Microsoft Store&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:35] - Understanding PWAs: A Developer&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:21] - The Android vs. Apple Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:44] - The Smartwatch Dilemma&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:15] - Travel Tales and Photography&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:36] - European Culture and Humor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:12] - Final Thoughts and Tech Tips&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/diekus/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diego Gonzales LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/download?form=MA13FJ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Edge Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
They dive into Natalia&#39;s background in JavaScript and her current work at Microsoft. The trio shares their impressions of Smooth Ambler&#39;s Contradiction Bourbon, discussing its unique blend of whiskeys, flavor profiles, and personal ratings. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation shifts to hot tech topics, including inferred vs. explicit types in TypeScript, IDEs vs. text editors, and opinions on GraphQL and micro frontends. They also touch on the nuances between developer experience (DX) and user experience (UX), frameworks like Astro, and the inherent trade-offs in software architecture. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wrapping up, Natalia shares insights about living in Barcelona and her background in architecture and filmmaking.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome and Introductions&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:49] - Whiskey Tasting: Smooth Ambler&#39;s Contradiction Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:51] - Rating the Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:07] - Tech Talk: AI, Blockchain, and JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:20] - Hot Takes: TypeScript, IDEs, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:03] - Microfrontends and Developer Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:47] - The Balance Between DX and UX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:13] - Dev Humor and Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:18] - Debating JSX and Single File Components&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:26] - The Evolution of Web Development Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:23] - Living in Barcelona and Football Fandom&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:27] - Culinary Adventures and Cultural Influences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Angular and the Framework Wars&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:15] - Career Paths and Personal Interests&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:34] - The Joys of Manual Cars and Quality Materials&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:55] - Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/AnfibiaCreativa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Natalia Venditto Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/anfibiacreativa/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Natalia Venditto LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://microfrontend.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://microfrontend.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9e384f7f-a25f-40ab-ba07-cba493cbe0fc</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2024 01:37:24 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zk3c861czqrzimvcwai3sc9g.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join host Charles William Carpenter III and special guest host Adam Argyle as they welcome Natalia Venditto on this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot. </p>
<p>
They dive into Natalia's background in JavaScript and her current work at Microsoft. The trio shares their impressions of Smooth Ambler's Contradiction Bourbon, discussing its unique blend of whiskeys, flavor profiles, and personal ratings. </p>
<p>
The conversation shifts to hot tech topics, including inferred vs. explicit types in TypeScript, IDEs vs. text editors, and opinions on GraphQL and micro frontends. They also touch on the nuances between developer experience (DX) and user experience (UX), frameworks like Astro, and the inherent trade-offs in software architecture. </p>
<p>
Wrapping up, Natalia shares insights about living in Barcelona and her background in architecture and filmmaking.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Welcome and Introductions</li>
 <li>[00:49] - Whiskey Tasting: Smooth Ambler's Contradiction Bourbon</li>
  <li>[04:51] - Rating the Bourbon</li>
  <li>[08:07] - Tech Talk: AI, Blockchain, and JavaScript</li>
  <li>[10:20] - Hot Takes: TypeScript, IDEs, and More</li>
  <li>[23:03] - Microfrontends and Developer Experience</li>
  <li>[27:47] - The Balance Between DX and UX</li>
  <li>[34:13] - Dev Humor and Final Thoughts</li>
  <li>[35:18] - Debating JSX and Single File Components</li>
  <li>[36:26] - The Evolution of Web Development Frameworks</li>
  <li>[38:23] - Living in Barcelona and Football Fandom</li>
  <li>[40:27] - Culinary Adventures and Cultural Influences</li>
  <li>[45:05] - Angular and the Framework Wars</li>
  <li>[48:15] - Career Paths and Personal Interests</li>
  <li>[59:34] - The Joys of Manual Cars and Quality Materials</li>
  <li>[01:03:55] - Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/AnfibiaCreativa" target="_blank">Natalia Venditto Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/anfibiacreativa/" target="_blank">Natalia Venditto LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://microfrontend.dev/" target="_blank">https://microfrontend.dev/</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
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<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">Overcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Secrets of a JavaScript Guru: Natalia Venditto on AI, GraphQL, and More!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zk3c861czqrzimvcwai3sc9g/arvyfzpwxpk51k9t945cbu5n.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3895</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>150</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join host Charles William Carpenter III and special guest host Adam Argyle as they welcome Natalia Venditto on this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They dive into Natalia&#39;s background in JavaScript and her current work at Microsoft. The trio shares their impressions of Smooth Ambler&#39;s Contradiction Bourbon, discussing its unique blend of whiskeys, flavor profiles, and personal ratings. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation shifts to hot tech topics, including inferred vs. explicit types in TypeScript, IDEs vs. text editors, and opinions on GraphQL and micro frontends. They also touch on the nuances between developer experience (DX) and user experience (UX), frameworks like Astro, and the inherent trade-offs in software architecture. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wrapping up, Natalia shares insights about living in Barcelona and her background in architecture and filmmaking.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome and Introductions&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:49] - Whiskey Tasting: Smooth Ambler&#39;s Contradiction Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:51] - Rating the Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:07] - Tech Talk: AI, Blockchain, and JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:20] - Hot Takes: TypeScript, IDEs, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:03] - Microfrontends and Developer Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:47] - The Balance Between DX and UX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:13] - Dev Humor and Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:18] - Debating JSX and Single File Components&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:26] - The Evolution of Web Development Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:23] - Living in Barcelona and Football Fandom&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:27] - Culinary Adventures and Cultural Influences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Angular and the Framework Wars&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:15] - Career Paths and Personal Interests&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:34] - The Joys of Manual Cars and Quality Materials&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:55] - Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/AnfibiaCreativa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Natalia Venditto Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/anfibiacreativa/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Natalia Venditto LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://microfrontend.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://microfrontend.dev/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/gtmzm0v2lcbbeb21542vqhi8/thumbnail-gtmzm0v2lcbbeb21542vqhi8.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/gtmzm0v2lcbbeb21542vqhi8/thumbnail-gtmzm0v2lcbbeb21542vqhi8.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zk3c861czqrzimvcwai3sc9g/i0x81ubu2tqiwusq3kxqh2dz/transcoded-01KECKE25GCGY11H4XR4DNMWPQ-01KECKE25GFA32NV6WNWJD1N4T_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Exploring Bevvy&#39;s Whiskey App World with Nas Tonchev</title><description>&lt;p&gt;We sit down with Nas Tonchev, CTO of Bevvy, a whiskey app for mobile and the web. We discuss features and functionalities of the Bevvy app, which helps users track, discover, and rate whiskeys. We also cover whiskey recommendations, the nuances of whiskey flavors, and the technical challenges of developing a whiskey-focused app. Additionally, we explore the influence of cultural aspects on consuming and collecting whiskey, with some tangents on career choices, hobbies, and the challenges of integrating AI and blockchain in business solutions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:29] Who is Nas Tonchev?&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:55] What does the Bevvy app do? Who is Bevvy for?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:18] Four Roses single barrel whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:12] Hot take: Serverless bad?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:59] Why did you choose to go native on mobile for Bevvy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:17] How do you handle items that aren&#39;t in your database yet?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:25] Have you been to tasting events?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:10] Do you like Mad Men?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:53] What is the story behind Bevvy&#39;s founding?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:45] How could AI integrate with an app like Bevvy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:23] If you weren&#39;t in tech, what career would you choose?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:27] What hobbies do you have outside of tech?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:58] What soccer team are you a fan of?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/atanas-tonchev-ab047810&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Atanas Tonchev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bevvy.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bevvy | Cocktails, Spirits, and Drink Culture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/single-barrel&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Sophistication&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mad Men&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_the_Beach&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Son of the Beach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a4a53b20-6c44-4039-9075-875754aad63b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jul 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jldb9qqrdc0puzpsv9srz1dn.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sit down with Nas Tonchev, CTO of Bevvy, a whiskey app for mobile and the web. We discuss features and functionalities of the Bevvy app, which helps users track, discover, and rate whiskeys. We also cover whiskey recommendations, the nuances of whiskey flavors, and the technical challenges of developing a whiskey-focused app. Additionally, we explore the influence of cultural aspects on consuming and collecting whiskey, with some tangents on career choices, hobbies, and the challenges of integrating AI and blockchain in business solutions.</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:29] Who is Nas Tonchev?</li>
 <li>[01:55] What does the Bevvy app do? Who is Bevvy for?</li>
  <li>[05:18] Four Roses single barrel whiskey</li>
  <li>[15:12] Hot take: Serverless bad?</li>
  <li>[18:59] Why did you choose to go native on mobile for Bevvy?</li>
  <li>[27:17] How do you handle items that aren't in your database yet?</li>
  <li>[32:25] Have you been to tasting events?</li>
  <li>[39:10] Do you like Mad Men?</li>
  <li>[40:53] What is the story behind Bevvy's founding?</li>
  <li>[42:45] How could AI integrate with an app like Bevvy?</li>
  <li>[48:23] If you weren't in tech, what career would you choose?</li>
  <li>[52:27] What hobbies do you have outside of tech?</li>
  <li>[59:58] What soccer team are you a fan of?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/atanas-tonchev-ab047810" target="_blank">Atanas Tonchev</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bevvy.co/" target="_blank">Bevvy | Cocktails, Spirits, and Drink Culture</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/single-barrel" target="_blank">Four Roses Sophistication</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men" target="_blank">Mad Men</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_the_Beach" target="_blank">Son of the Beach</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">Overcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Exploring Bevvy&#39;s Whiskey App World with Nas Tonchev</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jldb9qqrdc0puzpsv9srz1dn/e5fxd1m34zyktvd86a79vmpu.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3791</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>149</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;We sit down with Nas Tonchev, CTO of Bevvy, a whiskey app for mobile and the web. We discuss features and functionalities of the Bevvy app, which helps users track, discover, and rate whiskeys. We also cover whiskey recommendations, the nuances of whiskey flavors, and the technical challenges of developing a whiskey-focused app. Additionally, we explore the influence of cultural aspects on consuming and collecting whiskey, with some tangents on career choices, hobbies, and the challenges of integrating AI and blockchain in business solutions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:29] Who is Nas Tonchev?&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:55] What does the Bevvy app do? Who is Bevvy for?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:18] Four Roses single barrel whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:12] Hot take: Serverless bad?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:59] Why did you choose to go native on mobile for Bevvy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:17] How do you handle items that aren&#39;t in your database yet?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:25] Have you been to tasting events?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:10] Do you like Mad Men?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:53] What is the story behind Bevvy&#39;s founding?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:45] How could AI integrate with an app like Bevvy?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:23] If you weren&#39;t in tech, what career would you choose?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:27] What hobbies do you have outside of tech?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:58] What soccer team are you a fan of?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/atanas-tonchev-ab047810&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Atanas Tonchev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bevvy.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bevvy | Cocktails, Spirits, and Drink Culture&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/single-barrel&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Sophistication&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mad Men&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_the_Beach&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Son of the Beach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/r9mi2yppehsg5h5qwvzodho7/thumbnail-r9mi2yppehsg5h5qwvzodho7.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/r9mi2yppehsg5h5qwvzodho7/thumbnail-r9mi2yppehsg5h5qwvzodho7.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jldb9qqrdc0puzpsv9srz1dn/h72stibt706x7c8k85ngb7if/transcoded-01KECKE0GW5QMQ52D7WP35SKQT-01KECKE0GWXE8C4Y7XMQ1H1QDX_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Understanding Whiskey with Prime Barrel&#39;s Michael Nagdi</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Michael shares his transition from the corporate world to the whiskey industry, emphasizing whiskey’s role in building relationships. The discussion covers a range of fascinating topics: the nuances of whiskey blends, the unique properties of Amburana-finished rye whiskey, the innovative use of blockchain and NFTs for managing memberships and allocations, and discover how AI is streamlining Prime Barrel’s operations. The episode also highlights heartwarming community stories and practical applications of AI in marketing and business.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 &lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:26] Introducing Michael from Prime Barrell&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:18] Rare Character 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:35] Loving or Hating Wax Seals on Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] Learning how to taste our whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[18:39] Amburana explained&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:18] What is a cigar batch?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:46] Is ice evil for tasting real whiskey?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:11] How should you smell whiskey?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:31] How are NFTs going in the whiskey business?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:02:55] How are you integrating AI into your work?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:05:57] Is there a worst whiskey you&#39;ve ever had?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:11:45] Where can people learn more about whiskey and Michael?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-nagdimunov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Michael on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-prime-barrel/about/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Prime Barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://primebarrel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime Barrel - Single-Barrel Picks Marketplace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starlightdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlight Distillery Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://josephmagnus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joseph Magnus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/invite/huHWTbMdU7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord invite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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    &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">536c03b1-93f3-45eb-bf20-c619a5837159</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rnqqj8p3fjyhkwf72j9rirmf.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael shares his transition from the corporate world to the whiskey industry, emphasizing whiskey’s role in building relationships. The discussion covers a range of fascinating topics: the nuances of whiskey blends, the unique properties of Amburana-finished rye whiskey, the innovative use of blockchain and NFTs for managing memberships and allocations, and discover how AI is streamlining Prime Barrel’s operations. The episode also highlights heartwarming community stories and practical applications of AI in marketing and business.</p>
<p>
 <strong>Key Takeaways</strong>
</p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:26] Introducing Michael from Prime Barrell</li>
 <li>[04:18] Rare Character 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey</li>
 <li>[07:35] Loving or Hating Wax Seals on Whiskey</li>
 <li>[11:26] Learning how to taste our whiskey</li>
 <li>[18:39] Amburana explained</li>
  <li>[29:18] What is a cigar batch?</li>
  <li>[34:46] Is ice evil for tasting real whiskey?</li>
  <li>[37:11] How should you smell whiskey?</li>
  <li>[47:31] How are NFTs going in the whiskey business?</li>
  <li>[01:02:55] How are you integrating AI into your work?</li>
  <li>[01:05:57] Is there a worst whiskey you've ever had?</li>
  <li>[01:11:45] Where can people learn more about whiskey and Michael?</li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Links</strong>
</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-nagdimunov/" target="_blank">Michael on LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-prime-barrel/about/" target="_blank">The Prime Barrel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://primebarrel.com/" target="_blank">Prime Barrel - Single-Barrel Picks Marketplace</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://starlightdistillery.com/" target="_blank">Starlight Distillery Spirits</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://josephmagnus.com/" target="_blank">Joseph Magnus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Four Roses Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/invite/huHWTbMdU7" target="_blank">Discord invite</a></li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Connect with our hosts</strong>
</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong>
</p>
<ul>
  <li>
    <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>
  </li>
  <li>
    <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a>
  </li>
  <li>
    <a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a>
  </li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
</p>
<p>
  Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up
  some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Understanding Whiskey with Prime Barrel&#39;s Michael Nagdi</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rnqqj8p3fjyhkwf72j9rirmf/esmqv355qz8c6ql4ft7htkw6.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4422</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>148</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Michael shares his transition from the corporate world to the whiskey industry, emphasizing whiskey’s role in building relationships. The discussion covers a range of fascinating topics: the nuances of whiskey blends, the unique properties of Amburana-finished rye whiskey, the innovative use of blockchain and NFTs for managing memberships and allocations, and discover how AI is streamlining Prime Barrel’s operations. The episode also highlights heartwarming community stories and practical applications of AI in marketing and business.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 &lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:26] Introducing Michael from Prime Barrell&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:18] Rare Character 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:35] Loving or Hating Wax Seals on Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] Learning how to taste our whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[18:39] Amburana explained&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:18] What is a cigar batch?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:46] Is ice evil for tasting real whiskey?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:11] How should you smell whiskey?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:31] How are NFTs going in the whiskey business?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:02:55] How are you integrating AI into your work?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:05:57] Is there a worst whiskey you&#39;ve ever had?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:11:45] Where can people learn more about whiskey and Michael?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-nagdimunov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Michael on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-prime-barrel/about/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Prime Barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://primebarrel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime Barrel - Single-Barrel Picks Marketplace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starlightdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlight Distillery Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://josephmagnus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joseph Magnus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/invite/huHWTbMdU7&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord invite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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    &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up
  some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/aojy9jem2375xvqnmshl8igq/thumbnail-aojy9jem2375xvqnmshl8igq.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/aojy9jem2375xvqnmshl8igq/thumbnail-aojy9jem2375xvqnmshl8igq.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rnqqj8p3fjyhkwf72j9rirmf/zo8kycmuiqvphmve1vex4ol3/transcoded-01KECKE395B48E6BW64P69Y7SN-01KECKE3955JW16XHF9T5SXJGY_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Oh My Zsh with Robby Russell</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Explore the evolution of web development, Rails, and TypeScript, all while sipping Mortlach Single Malt Whisky. The discussion also covers vintage music formats like vinyl records and cassettes, the Tennessee whiskey scene, and modern bourbon regulations. Robby shares stories about maintaining legacy code, Oh My Zsh, starting a podcast, and The Mighty Missoula&#39;s upcoming album.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 &lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
   &lt;li&gt;[0:00] Introducing Robby Russell&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[02:41] Whiskey Tasting: Mortlach &#34;The Wee Witchie&#34; 12 Years Single Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[09:19] Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[12:05] Thoughts on ripping TypeScript out of projects&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[19:15] git rebase or git merge?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[21:09] Left or right sidebar in VS Code?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[23:26] What do you think about nested ternaries?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[26:55] Is Rails going to be the best way to write web applications again?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[39:15] Any suggestions for podcasters?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[47:41] Pronouncing and working on Oh My Zsh&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[49:51] The origin story of Oh My Zsh&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.x.com/robbyrussell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mortlach.com/our-whisky.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ohmyz.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oh My Zsh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://maintainable.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maintainable Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mightymissoula.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Mighty Missoula&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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    &lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;
  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up
  some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;whiskey.fund&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">74a54254-d209-483e-98f2-f54f257c4eb6</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/wa4dblc0dicvbv1wjn92zip4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explore the evolution of web development, Rails, and TypeScript, all while sipping Mortlach Single Malt Whisky. The discussion also covers vintage music formats like vinyl records and cassettes, the Tennessee whiskey scene, and modern bourbon regulations. Robby shares stories about maintaining legacy code, Oh My Zsh, starting a podcast, and The Mighty Missoula's upcoming album.</p>
<p>
 <strong>Key Takeaways</strong>
</p>
<ul>
   <li>[0:00] Introducing Robby Russell</li>
    <li>[02:41] Whiskey Tasting: Mortlach "The Wee Witchie" 12 Years Single Malt Scotch Whisky</li>
    <li>[09:19] Hot Takes</li>
    <li>[12:05] Thoughts on ripping TypeScript out of projects</li>
    <li>[19:15] git rebase or git merge?</li>
    <li>[21:09] Left or right sidebar in VS Code?</li>
    <li>[23:26] What do you think about nested ternaries?</li>
    <li>[26:55] Is Rails going to be the best way to write web applications again?</li>
    <li>[39:15] Any suggestions for podcasters?</li>
    <li>[47:41] Pronouncing and working on Oh My Zsh</li>
    <li>[49:51] The origin story of Oh My Zsh</li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Links</strong>
</p>
<ul>
    <li><a href="https://www.x.com/robbyrussell" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://www.mortlach.com/our-whisky.html" target="_blank">Whiskey</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://ohmyz.sh/" target="_blank">Oh My Zsh</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://maintainable.fm/" target="_blank">Maintainable Podcast</a></li>
    <li><a href="https://www.mightymissoula.com/" target="_blank">The Mighty Missoula</a></li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Connect with our hosts</strong>
</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong>
</p>
<ul>
  <li>
    <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>
  </li>
  <li>
    <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a>
  </li>
  <li>
    <a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a>
  </li>
</ul>
<p>
  <strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
</p>
<p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Oh My Zsh with Robby Russell</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wa4dblc0dicvbv1wjn92zip4/cyo05cn3aa779wfujq0nprao.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4562</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>147</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Explore the evolution of web development, Rails, and TypeScript, all while sipping Mortlach Single Malt Whisky. The discussion also covers vintage music formats like vinyl records and cassettes, the Tennessee whiskey scene, and modern bourbon regulations. Robby shares stories about maintaining legacy code, Oh My Zsh, starting a podcast, and The Mighty Missoula&#39;s upcoming album.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 &lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
   &lt;li&gt;[0:00] Introducing Robby Russell&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[02:41] Whiskey Tasting: Mortlach &#34;The Wee Witchie&#34; 12 Years Single Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[09:19] Hot Takes&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[12:05] Thoughts on ripping TypeScript out of projects&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[19:15] git rebase or git merge?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[21:09] Left or right sidebar in VS Code?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[23:26] What do you think about nested ternaries?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[26:55] Is Rails going to be the best way to write web applications again?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[39:15] Any suggestions for podcasters?&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[47:41] Pronouncing and working on Oh My Zsh&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;[49:51] The origin story of Oh My Zsh&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.x.com/robbyrussell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mortlach.com/our-whisky.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ohmyz.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oh My Zsh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://maintainable.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maintainable Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mightymissoula.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Mighty Missoula&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qdh1ujttf61d31aapp6p4gz9/thumbnail-qdh1ujttf61d31aapp6p4gz9.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qdh1ujttf61d31aapp6p4gz9/thumbnail-qdh1ujttf61d31aapp6p4gz9.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wa4dblc0dicvbv1wjn92zip4/xppac3pdaoo13qalteqq1pd3/transcoded-01KECKD49HD0SMNXXDSWGBJVNM-01KECKD49HYVGXFNZVVWVCY5NW_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Unlocking the Secrets of AI in Tech with April Yoho</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle for a riveting episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39; featuring guest April Yoho. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Based in the UK and a seasoned developer advocate, April shares her extensive 25+ years of experience in tech while indulging in a tasting session of High West Double Rye whiskey. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Discover insights into cloud development, the intricacies of AI in coding, the debates of modern JavaScript practices, and much more. Tune in for a mix of whiskey evaluation, tech discussions, and amusing cultural anecdotes.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Whiskey Tasting: High West Double Rye&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:19] - Whiskey Rating System Explained&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - Tasting Notes and Impressions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:08] - Tech Talk: Let vs Const&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:42] - Hot Takes: Tailwind, Git, and TypeScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:53] - Infrastructure as Code: Terraform and Bicep&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:42] - Kubernetes and Cloud Native Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:06] - Flex and Serverless: A New Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:32] - Overengineering in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:46] - Nostalgia for Early Web and DIY Servers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:12] - On-Prem vs Cloud: The Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:37] - Data Residency Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:43] - Living in the UK: Food and Culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:08] - AI in Development: Embrace the Change&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/TheAprilYoho&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;April Yoho Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/azureapril/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;April Yoho LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Overcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">943e217e-9abf-45d6-b3d5-f96aa9b39399</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:50:26 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ppbmmkk1cvlrwc54af28izae.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle for a riveting episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot' featuring guest April Yoho. </p>
<p>
Based in the UK and a seasoned developer advocate, April shares her extensive 25+ years of experience in tech while indulging in a tasting session of High West Double Rye whiskey. </p>
<p>
Discover insights into cloud development, the intricacies of AI in coding, the debates of modern JavaScript practices, and much more. Tune in for a mix of whiskey evaluation, tech discussions, and amusing cultural anecdotes.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction</li>
 <li>[01:01] - Whiskey Tasting: High West Double Rye</li>
  <li>[02:19] - Whiskey Rating System Explained</li>
  <li>[02:38] - Tasting Notes and Impressions</li>
  <li>[08:08] - Tech Talk: Let vs Const</li>
  <li>[08:42] - Hot Takes: Tailwind, Git, and TypeScript</li>
  <li>[13:53] - Infrastructure as Code: Terraform and Bicep</li>
  <li>[17:42] - Kubernetes and Cloud Native Development</li>
  <li>[19:06] - Flex and Serverless: A New Perspective</li>
  <li>[20:32] - Overengineering in Tech</li>
  <li>[20:46] - Nostalgia for Early Web and DIY Servers</li>
  <li>[22:12] - On-Prem vs Cloud: The Debate</li>
  <li>[23:37] - Data Residency Challenges</li>
  <li>[27:43] - Living in the UK: Food and Culture</li>
  <li>[36:08] - AI in Development: Embrace the Change</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/TheAprilYoho" target="_blank">April Yoho Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/azureapril/" target="_blank">April Yoho LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">Overcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Unlocking the Secrets of AI in Tech with April Yoho</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ppbmmkk1cvlrwc54af28izae/ij7mp7rdoc1vqe7elkpkh6z8.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2325</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>146</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Argyle for a riveting episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39; featuring guest April Yoho. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Based in the UK and a seasoned developer advocate, April shares her extensive 25+ years of experience in tech while indulging in a tasting session of High West Double Rye whiskey. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Discover insights into cloud development, the intricacies of AI in coding, the debates of modern JavaScript practices, and much more. Tune in for a mix of whiskey evaluation, tech discussions, and amusing cultural anecdotes.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Whiskey Tasting: High West Double Rye&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:19] - Whiskey Rating System Explained&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - Tasting Notes and Impressions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:08] - Tech Talk: Let vs Const&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:42] - Hot Takes: Tailwind, Git, and TypeScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:53] - Infrastructure as Code: Terraform and Bicep&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:42] - Kubernetes and Cloud Native Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:06] - Flex and Serverless: A New Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:32] - Overengineering in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:46] - Nostalgia for Early Web and DIY Servers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:12] - On-Prem vs Cloud: The Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:37] - Data Residency Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:43] - Living in the UK: Food and Culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:08] - AI in Development: Embrace the Change&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/TheAprilYoho&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;April Yoho Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/azureapril/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;April Yoho LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/i28vmcadttij2eegud60i04l/thumbnail-i28vmcadttij2eegud60i04l.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/i28vmcadttij2eegud60i04l/thumbnail-i28vmcadttij2eegud60i04l.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ppbmmkk1cvlrwc54af28izae/ikivyrfuopln0kscsswgkmmv/transcoded-01KECKDKXXTDC2WVG6Z9Q9ZXQR-01KECKDKXXMNRD3NQ4GQ5K4JTT_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Aspire to Greatness: .NET Innovations You Can&#39;t Miss! w/ David Fowler and Damian Edwards</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Join Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Schmargyle in an engaging episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39; as they welcome Damian Edwards and David Fowler from Microsoft. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Listen as David shares his journey from Barbados to becoming a distinguished engineer at Microsoft and Damian recounts his experience with web technologies from Australia. The discussion includes insights into .NET frameworks, HTML semantics, and their new project, Aspire. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts also provide tips on integrating the Aspire dashboard with Otel tools, emphasizing hands-on experience. Amidst tech discussions, enjoy a light-hearted session of Japanese whiskey tasting, personal anecdotes, and dynamic software development perspectives. Subscribe for more!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - David Fowler&#39;s Background&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - Damian Edwards&#39; Background&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:44] - Evolution of the Web&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - Whiskey Tasting: Akashi White Oak&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:06] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:06] - Hot Takes and Industry Insights&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:33] - The Rise of Celebrity Developers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:50] - The Power of Strong Opinions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:32] - Implicit vs Explicit Types&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:53] - The Evolution of .NET Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:04] - Introduction to Blazor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:08] - Understanding Aspire&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:44] - Balancing Work and Personal Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:39] - Sports and Hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:59] - Reflections and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/davidfowl&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Fowler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidfowl/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Fowler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/DamianEdwards&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damian Edwards Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/damianpedwards/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damian Edwards LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/dotnet/aspire&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aspire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d659799f-836a-4efd-8ada-5d2c383edceb</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/c284az9o2wckr2p9rt61cjfm.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Schmargyle in an engaging episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot' as they welcome Damian Edwards and David Fowler from Microsoft. </p>
<p>
Listen as David shares his journey from Barbados to becoming a distinguished engineer at Microsoft and Damian recounts his experience with web technologies from Australia. The discussion includes insights into .NET frameworks, HTML semantics, and their new project, Aspire. 
</p>
<p>
The hosts also provide tips on integrating the Aspire dashboard with Otel tools, emphasizing hands-on experience. Amidst tech discussions, enjoy a light-hearted session of Japanese whiskey tasting, personal anecdotes, and dynamic software development perspectives. Subscribe for more!
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction</li>
 <li>[00:31] - David Fowler's Background</li>
  <li>[01:33] - Damian Edwards' Background</li>
  <li>[02:44] - Evolution of the Web</li>
  <li>[03:06] - Whiskey Tasting: Akashi White Oak</li>
  <li>[05:06] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion</li>
  <li>[16:06] - Hot Takes and Industry Insights</li>
  <li>[32:33] - The Rise of Celebrity Developers</li>
  <li>[32:50] - The Power of Strong Opinions</li>
  <li>[33:32] - Implicit vs Explicit Types</li>
  <li>[34:53] - The Evolution of .NET Frameworks</li>
  <li>[36:04] - Introduction to Blazor</li>
  <li>[41:08] - Understanding Aspire</li>
  <li>[51:44] - Balancing Work and Personal Life</li>
  <li>[52:39] - Sports and Hobbies</li>
  <li>[57:59] - Reflections and Future Plans</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/davidfowl" target="_blank">David Fowler Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidfowl/" target="_blank">David Fowler LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/DamianEdwards" target="_blank">Damian Edwards Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/damianpedwards/" target="_blank">Damian Edwards LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/dotnet/aspire" target="_blank">Aspire</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Aspire to Greatness: .NET Innovations You Can&#39;t Miss! w/ David Fowler and Damian Edwards</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c284az9o2wckr2p9rt61cjfm/dmshtcsqfl3gojqugixlwr5w.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3737</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>145</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join Charles William Carpenter III and Adam Schmargyle in an engaging episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39; as they welcome Damian Edwards and David Fowler from Microsoft. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Listen as David shares his journey from Barbados to becoming a distinguished engineer at Microsoft and Damian recounts his experience with web technologies from Australia. The discussion includes insights into .NET frameworks, HTML semantics, and their new project, Aspire. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts also provide tips on integrating the Aspire dashboard with Otel tools, emphasizing hands-on experience. Amidst tech discussions, enjoy a light-hearted session of Japanese whiskey tasting, personal anecdotes, and dynamic software development perspectives. Subscribe for more!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Introduction and Guest Introduction&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - David Fowler&#39;s Background&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - Damian Edwards&#39; Background&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:44] - Evolution of the Web&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - Whiskey Tasting: Akashi White Oak&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:06] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:06] - Hot Takes and Industry Insights&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:33] - The Rise of Celebrity Developers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:50] - The Power of Strong Opinions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:32] - Implicit vs Explicit Types&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:53] - The Evolution of .NET Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:04] - Introduction to Blazor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:08] - Understanding Aspire&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:44] - Balancing Work and Personal Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:39] - Sports and Hobbies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:59] - Reflections and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/davidfowl&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Fowler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidfowl/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Fowler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/DamianEdwards&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damian Edwards Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/damianpedwards/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damian Edwards LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/dotnet/aspire&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aspire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/lzases6e4xqiksu3zw6zl834/thumbnail-lzases6e4xqiksu3zw6zl834.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/lzases6e4xqiksu3zw6zl834/thumbnail-lzases6e4xqiksu3zw6zl834.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c284az9o2wckr2p9rt61cjfm/pvm32in4w6p93eok120026uk/transcoded-01KECKE1HKWT8DSTZFA949VE23-01KECKE1HK5NPW02ES30WRJ10H_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>AI vs Human: The Future of Job Interviews with Taylor Desseyn</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter VIII on Whiskey Web and Whatnot as they welcome back Taylor Desseyn for another round of whiskey and engaging conversation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dive into discussions on the relevance of AI in hiring, the shift between remote and in-office work, and the changing trends in engineering specializations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Plus, get to know more about Taylor’s life beyond tech, including his hobbies and family updates, and don&#39;t miss their entertaining whiskey tasting session featuring Tennessee blended bourbon Sweetens Cove!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:34] - Introducing Taylor Desseyn&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - Tennessee Whiskey Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:32] - Discussing Return to Office Policies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:44] - Exploring Lit and Ember&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:12] - The Platinum Blonde Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:31] - AI in Hiring Processes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:25] - Humanizing Hiring&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:55] - The Disconnect in Tech Hiring&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:29] - Specialization in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:02] - The Future of Blue Collar Jobs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:27] - Balancing Work and Personal Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:40] - Preparing for Baby Number Two&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:05] - Podcast and Merch Plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gun.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gun.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Overcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7614f379-cd67-450c-b60d-97443a037463</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tabii5x2tl1kvvx12tw0auty.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter VIII on Whiskey Web and Whatnot as they welcome back Taylor Desseyn for another round of whiskey and engaging conversation. </p>
<p>
Dive into discussions on the relevance of AI in hiring, the shift between remote and in-office work, and the changing trends in engineering specializations. </p>
<p>
Plus, get to know more about Taylor’s life beyond tech, including his hobbies and family updates, and don't miss their entertaining whiskey tasting session featuring Tennessee blended bourbon Sweetens Cove!
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot</li>
 <li>[01:34] - Introducing Taylor Desseyn</li>
  <li>[02:38] - Tennessee Whiskey Tasting</li>
  <li>[12:32] - Discussing Return to Office Policies</li>
  <li>[29:44] - Exploring Lit and Ember</li>
  <li>[30:12] - The Platinum Blonde Debate</li>
  <li>[31:31] - AI in Hiring Processes</li>
  <li>[32:25] - Humanizing Hiring</li>
  <li>[35:55] - The Disconnect in Tech Hiring</li>
  <li>[41:29] - Specialization in Tech</li>
  <li>[45:02] - The Future of Blue Collar Jobs</li>
  <li>[50:27] - Balancing Work and Personal Life</li>
  <li>[55:40] - Preparing for Baby Number Two</li>
  <li>[58:05] - Podcast and Merch Plug</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/tdesseyn" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gun.io/" target="_blank">Gun.io</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603" target="_blank">Overcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>AI vs Human: The Future of Job Interviews with Taylor Desseyn</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tabii5x2tl1kvvx12tw0auty/emwrjxacsqypp34m3d53b85u.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3535</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>144</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter VIII on Whiskey Web and Whatnot as they welcome back Taylor Desseyn for another round of whiskey and engaging conversation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dive into discussions on the relevance of AI in hiring, the shift between remote and in-office work, and the changing trends in engineering specializations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Plus, get to know more about Taylor’s life beyond tech, including his hobbies and family updates, and don&#39;t miss their entertaining whiskey tasting session featuring Tennessee blended bourbon Sweetens Cove!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:34] - Introducing Taylor Desseyn&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - Tennessee Whiskey Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:32] - Discussing Return to Office Policies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:44] - Exploring Lit and Ember&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:12] - The Platinum Blonde Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:31] - AI in Hiring Processes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:25] - Humanizing Hiring&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:55] - The Disconnect in Tech Hiring&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:29] - Specialization in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:02] - The Future of Blue Collar Jobs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:27] - Balancing Work and Personal Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:40] - Preparing for Baby Number Two&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:05] - Podcast and Merch Plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gun.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gun.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Overcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tpcoyj69pjsz930re2kxub12/thumbnail-tpcoyj69pjsz930re2kxub12.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tpcoyj69pjsz930re2kxub12/thumbnail-tpcoyj69pjsz930re2kxub12.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tabii5x2tl1kvvx12tw0auty/o7ttelhrl5jqloapb51ysw5h/transcoded-01KECKDZX85XFX1M4HK6N2D6ZS-01KECKDZX8JXJ80CPJ2KQBKW3S_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Why Svelte Might Just Outdo React: Rich Harris Unveils Shocking Comparisons!</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this special International Whiskey Day episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich&#39;s journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:28] - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:40] - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:59] - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:29] - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:34] - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:57] - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:51] - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:40] - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:29] - The Developer&#39;s Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:17] - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:11] - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:24] - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:34] - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:03] - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:54] - The Global Developer Conference Scene&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:18] - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rich Harris Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">2cb67154-c811-4178-ae49-7622ebfb526d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xiwmov105d2nor6hrogje1sh.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this special International Whiskey Day episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot', hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris. </p>
<p>
They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich's journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha. </p>
<p>
The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing. </p>
<p>
The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special</li>
 <li>[00:48] - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte</li>
  <li>[01:28] - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love</li>
  <li>[02:40] - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure</li>
  <li>[03:59] - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience</li>
  <li>[07:29] - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints</li>
  <li>[10:34] - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond</li>
  <li>[11:57] - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More</li>
  <li>[24:51] - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools</li>
  <li>[27:40] - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate</li>
  <li>[30:29] - The Developer's Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience</li>
  <li>[31:17] - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build</li>
  <li>[33:11] - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities</li>
  <li>[34:24] - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use</li>
  <li>[40:34] - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite</li>
  <li>[50:03] - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions</li>
  <li>[56:54] - The Global Developer Conference Scene</li>
  <li>[59:18] - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris" target="_blank">Rich Harris Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Why Svelte Might Just Outdo React: Rich Harris Unveils Shocking Comparisons!</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xiwmov105d2nor6hrogje1sh/mzvzrukof1es22rniuy8ch1y.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3802</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>143</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this special International Whiskey Day episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich&#39;s journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:28] - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:40] - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:59] - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:29] - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:34] - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:57] - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:51] - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:40] - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:29] - The Developer&#39;s Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:17] - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:11] - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:24] - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:34] - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:03] - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:54] - The Global Developer Conference Scene&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:18] - Final Thoughts and Svelte Promotion&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rich Harris Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xiwmov105d2nor6hrogje1sh/lth600isrw2tqwk27pp6efsl/transcoded-01KECKE19P7CN97FZGXHGES7JY-01KECKE19PBNSB9GYCZB6F72K8_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Flagging Features and Dropping Beats with Ben Rometsch</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Ben Rometsch, CEO and co-founder of Flagsmith.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The discussion kicks off with a lighthearted conversation about the absence of landscapers at Chuck&#39;s house, leading into Ben&#39;s unexpected affinity for the New Orleans Saints due to a memorable game at Wembley in London. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ben shares his journey from running a web agency for 23 years to starting Flagsmith as a side project, which has now become a growing business with 97 percent of its codebase being open-source. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation shifts to a whiskey tasting of Redwood Empire&#39;s Lost Monarch, featuring a blend of aged bourbons and whiskey, followed by a discussion on various tech topics including AI in jobs, the value of front-end frameworks, and Git practices. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Later, Ben provides a detailed overview of Flagsmith, emphasizing its open-source nature, the importance of feature flags in development, and how the platform has evolved with contributions from the community, including paying customers. The episode wraps up with personal insights from Ben, including his dream of being an author and his fondness for the video game Parappa the Rapper.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Opening Banter and Landscaper Tales&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:55] - Introducing Ben and Flagsmith&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:02] - A Deep Dive into Whiskey Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:31] - Hot Takes on AI, Frameworks, and Git Practices&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:38] - Exploring Flagsmith: An Open Source Journey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:32] - The Challenges of Staging and Production Environments&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:42] - The High Cost of Configuration Differences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:11] - The Evolution of Engineering Practices and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:15] - The Business Value of Open Source and Commercial Software&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:38] - Personal Passions: From Tech to Writing and Retro Gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ben_rometsch&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ben Rometsch Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrometsch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ben Rometsch LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flagsmith.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flagsmith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Flagsmith/flagsmith&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flagsmith GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">296b43c3-7558-48db-a7c4-1c43c6affff8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/itxm7ldwklmhznk7867hze86.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Ben Rometsch, CEO and co-founder of Flagsmith.</p>
<p>
The discussion kicks off with a lighthearted conversation about the absence of landscapers at Chuck's house, leading into Ben's unexpected affinity for the New Orleans Saints due to a memorable game at Wembley in London. </p>
<p>
Ben shares his journey from running a web agency for 23 years to starting Flagsmith as a side project, which has now become a growing business with 97 percent of its codebase being open-source. </p>
<p>
The conversation shifts to a whiskey tasting of Redwood Empire's Lost Monarch, featuring a blend of aged bourbons and whiskey, followed by a discussion on various tech topics including AI in jobs, the value of front-end frameworks, and Git practices. </p>
<p>
Later, Ben provides a detailed overview of Flagsmith, emphasizing its open-source nature, the importance of feature flags in development, and how the platform has evolved with contributions from the community, including paying customers. The episode wraps up with personal insights from Ben, including his dream of being an author and his fondness for the video game Parappa the Rapper.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Opening Banter and Landscaper Tales</li>
 <li>[00:55] - Introducing Ben and Flagsmith</li>
  <li>[03:02] - A Deep Dive into Whiskey Tasting</li>
  <li>[10:31] - Hot Takes on AI, Frameworks, and Git Practices</li>
  <li>[25:38] - Exploring Flagsmith: An Open Source Journey</li>
  <li>[32:32] - The Challenges of Staging and Production Environments</li>
  <li>[33:42] - The High Cost of Configuration Differences</li>
  <li>[36:11] - The Evolution of Engineering Practices and Frameworks</li>
  <li>[42:15] - The Business Value of Open Source and Commercial Software</li>
  <li>[53:38] - Personal Passions: From Tech to Writing and Retro Gaming</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ben_rometsch" target="_blank">Ben Rometsch Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrometsch/" target="_blank">Ben Rometsch LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.flagsmith.com/" target="_blank">Flagsmith</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Flagsmith/flagsmith" target="_blank">Flagsmith GitHub</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Flagging Features and Dropping Beats with Ben Rometsch</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/itxm7ldwklmhznk7867hze86/jf5fxmjiei4iec9pdn0u62mb.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4048</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>142</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Ben Rometsch, CEO and co-founder of Flagsmith.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The discussion kicks off with a lighthearted conversation about the absence of landscapers at Chuck&#39;s house, leading into Ben&#39;s unexpected affinity for the New Orleans Saints due to a memorable game at Wembley in London. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ben shares his journey from running a web agency for 23 years to starting Flagsmith as a side project, which has now become a growing business with 97 percent of its codebase being open-source. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation shifts to a whiskey tasting of Redwood Empire&#39;s Lost Monarch, featuring a blend of aged bourbons and whiskey, followed by a discussion on various tech topics including AI in jobs, the value of front-end frameworks, and Git practices. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Later, Ben provides a detailed overview of Flagsmith, emphasizing its open-source nature, the importance of feature flags in development, and how the platform has evolved with contributions from the community, including paying customers. The episode wraps up with personal insights from Ben, including his dream of being an author and his fondness for the video game Parappa the Rapper.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Opening Banter and Landscaper Tales&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:55] - Introducing Ben and Flagsmith&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:02] - A Deep Dive into Whiskey Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:31] - Hot Takes on AI, Frameworks, and Git Practices&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:38] - Exploring Flagsmith: An Open Source Journey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:32] - The Challenges of Staging and Production Environments&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:42] - The High Cost of Configuration Differences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:11] - The Evolution of Engineering Practices and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:15] - The Business Value of Open Source and Commercial Software&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:38] - Personal Passions: From Tech to Writing and Retro Gaming&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ben_rometsch&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ben Rometsch Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.flagsmith.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flagsmith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Flagsmith/flagsmith&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flagsmith GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/itxm7ldwklmhznk7867hze86/oqykujh5osa5p2k05rrylpo2/transcoded-01KECKD1N9QGBM4PYVKWQ3WM9K-01KECKD1N9JNDGYA9R2VDT383P_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Secrets Exposed: The Art of Keeping API Keys Safe From Developer Slip-Ups with Dante Lex</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Dante, the founder of Onboardbase and hi.new. Dante shares insights on building security infrastructure for distributed teams and discusses the common mistakes businesses make by trusting developers with sensitive API keys and database credentials. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode also features a whiskey tasting segment where Robbie, Charles, and Dante taste and review Woodford Reserve double oaked whiskey. Additionally, the conversation touches on various topics, including TypeScript preferences, Tailwind CSS, git practices, and potential careers outside of tech. Dante also talks about the challenges of being a solo founder and the current state of raising funds from VCs and angel investors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode wraps up with a casual chat about Manchester United&#39;s current performance and Dante&#39;s potential career choices if he weren&#39;t in tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Meet Dante: Security Infrastructure for Distributed Teams&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:10] - Diving into Whiskey Tasting: Woodford Reserve Double Oaked&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:06] - Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and VS Code Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:10] - Deep Dive into Onboardbase and Proxy Vault&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:08] - Exploring Untapped Niches: Security and Energy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:11] - The Unforeseen Impact of AI on Security&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:22] - The Realities of Cybersecurity and Compliance&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:07] - Open Source Security Tools: A Game Changer&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:56] - The Journey of Starting a Software Company&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:56] - The Challenges and Strategies of Fundraising&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:13] - Navigating the Complexities of Soccer Fandom&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:30] - Career Alternatives: Content Creation and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:31] - Wrapping Up: Beta Invites and Open Source Contributions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/dantelex&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dante Lex Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantelex/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dante Lex LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://onboardbase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Onboardbase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hi.new/dante&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;hi.new&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f5724cd6-e8a7-453e-bbf8-7f31887b41fc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/madfzstnfe9zu7hkbfssx650.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Dante, the founder of Onboardbase and hi.new. Dante shares insights on building security infrastructure for distributed teams and discusses the common mistakes businesses make by trusting developers with sensitive API keys and database credentials. </p>
<p>
The episode also features a whiskey tasting segment where Robbie, Charles, and Dante taste and review Woodford Reserve double oaked whiskey. Additionally, the conversation touches on various topics, including TypeScript preferences, Tailwind CSS, git practices, and potential careers outside of tech. Dante also talks about the challenges of being a solo founder and the current state of raising funds from VCs and angel investors.</p>
<p>
The episode wraps up with a casual chat about Manchester United's current performance and Dante's potential career choices if he weren't in tech.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:32] - Meet Dante: Security Infrastructure for Distributed Teams</li>
 <li>[02:10] - Diving into Whiskey Tasting: Woodford Reserve Double Oaked</li>
  <li>[10:06] - Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and VS Code Preferences</li>
  <li>[20:10] - Deep Dive into Onboardbase and Proxy Vault</li>
  <li>[28:08] - Exploring Untapped Niches: Security and Energy</li>
  <li>[29:11] - The Unforeseen Impact of AI on Security</li>
  <li>[30:22] - The Realities of Cybersecurity and Compliance</li>
  <li>[33:07] - Open Source Security Tools: A Game Changer</li>
  <li>[34:56] - The Journey of Starting a Software Company</li>
  <li>[36:56] - The Challenges and Strategies of Fundraising</li>
  <li>[42:13] - Navigating the Complexities of Soccer Fandom</li>
  <li>[49:30] - Career Alternatives: Content Creation and Beyond</li>
  <li>[52:31] - Wrapping Up: Beta Invites and Open Source Contributions</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/dantelex" target="_blank">Dante Lex Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantelex/" target="_blank">Dante Lex LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://onboardbase.com/" target="_blank">Onboardbase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hi.new/dante" target="_blank">hi.new</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Secrets Exposed: The Art of Keeping API Keys Safe From Developer Slip-Ups with Dante Lex</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/madfzstnfe9zu7hkbfssx650/qu57vo80katzk94os25xug9l.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3259</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>141</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Dante, the founder of Onboardbase and hi.new. Dante shares insights on building security infrastructure for distributed teams and discusses the common mistakes businesses make by trusting developers with sensitive API keys and database credentials. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode also features a whiskey tasting segment where Robbie, Charles, and Dante taste and review Woodford Reserve double oaked whiskey. Additionally, the conversation touches on various topics, including TypeScript preferences, Tailwind CSS, git practices, and potential careers outside of tech. Dante also talks about the challenges of being a solo founder and the current state of raising funds from VCs and angel investors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode wraps up with a casual chat about Manchester United&#39;s current performance and Dante&#39;s potential career choices if he weren&#39;t in tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Meet Dante: Security Infrastructure for Distributed Teams&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:10] - Diving into Whiskey Tasting: Woodford Reserve Double Oaked&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:06] - Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and VS Code Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:10] - Deep Dive into Onboardbase and Proxy Vault&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:08] - Exploring Untapped Niches: Security and Energy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:11] - The Unforeseen Impact of AI on Security&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:22] - The Realities of Cybersecurity and Compliance&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:07] - Open Source Security Tools: A Game Changer&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:56] - The Journey of Starting a Software Company&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:56] - The Challenges and Strategies of Fundraising&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:13] - Navigating the Complexities of Soccer Fandom&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:30] - Career Alternatives: Content Creation and Beyond&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:31] - Wrapping Up: Beta Invites and Open Source Contributions&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/dantelex&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dante Lex Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantelex/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dante Lex LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://onboardbase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Onboardbase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hi.new/dante&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;hi.new&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/zmbmf5ujamfk74tchgvpmme8/thumbnail-zmbmf5ujamfk74tchgvpmme8.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/zmbmf5ujamfk74tchgvpmme8/thumbnail-zmbmf5ujamfk74tchgvpmme8.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/madfzstnfe9zu7hkbfssx650/cb4rke2rbhv1jiqy8q42gsls/transcoded-01KECKDPWARJAC2TY0W2HBSZGH-01KECKDPWA7E5SDSPHQ9KGRY2F_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>When Hackers Send the Bill: Who Really Pays for Cloud Catastrophes?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III delve into a mix of topics starting with their thoughts on the Jack Daniels Sinatra Select whiskey, including its unique packaging and taste profile. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation then shifts to the challenges developers face with hosting services and unexpected bills, touching on the responsibilities of CTOs within companies and how the role impacts team dynamics and code quality. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wrapping up, they touch on the reality TV show &#39;Love is Blind,&#39; sharing personal takes and humorous insights into the dynamics and drama of the show. Throughout, the duo maintains their light-hearted and engaging banter, making for an entertaining and varied discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey, Web, and Whatnot!&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:49] - Diving Into Today&#39;s Whiskey: Jack Daniels Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:36] - Tasting Notes and Opinions on Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:04] - The Tentacle Scale: Rating Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Navigating the Costs of Cloud Services&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:42] - The Business of Investing in Web Technologies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:17] - Exploring the Role of a CTO in Various Company Sizes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:28] - The Evolving Responsibilities of a CTO&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:55] - Navigating Technical Leadership and Team Morale&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:08] - The Fine Line of CTO Involvement in Projects&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:09] - Promotion and Performance in the Tech Industry&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:14] - Shifts in Mentorship and Team Dynamics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:19] - Reality TV Deep Dive: Love is Blind Analysis&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:18] - Gaming, Work-Life Balance, and Podcasting Insights&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e1d13ced-888d-4e5f-bab0-5771084cd830</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/wnm5eb80kjy7uqd8bkx6oxh5.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III delve into a mix of topics starting with their thoughts on the Jack Daniels Sinatra Select whiskey, including its unique packaging and taste profile. </p>
<p>
The conversation then shifts to the challenges developers face with hosting services and unexpected bills, touching on the responsibilities of CTOs within companies and how the role impacts team dynamics and code quality. </p>
<p>
Wrapping up, they touch on the reality TV show 'Love is Blind,' sharing personal takes and humorous insights into the dynamics and drama of the show. Throughout, the duo maintains their light-hearted and engaging banter, making for an entertaining and varied discussion.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey, Web, and Whatnot!</li>
 <li>[01:49] - Diving Into Today's Whiskey: Jack Daniels Sinatra Select</li>
 <li>[04:36] - Tasting Notes and Opinions on Sinatra Select</li>
 <li>[09:04] - The Tentacle Scale: Rating Sinatra Select</li>
  <li>[15:38] - Navigating the Costs of Cloud Services</li>
  <li>[25:42] - The Business of Investing in Web Technologies</li>
  <li>[32:17] - Exploring the Role of a CTO in Various Company Sizes</li>
  <li>[34:28] - The Evolving Responsibilities of a CTO</li>
  <li>[35:55] - Navigating Technical Leadership and Team Morale</li>
  <li>[39:08] - The Fine Line of CTO Involvement in Projects</li>
  <li>[45:09] - Promotion and Performance in the Tech Industry</li>
  <li>[47:14] - Shifts in Mentorship and Team Dynamics</li>
  <li>[52:19] - Reality TV Deep Dive: Love is Blind Analysis</li>
  <li>[58:18] - Gaming, Work-Life Balance, and Podcasting Insights</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>When Hackers Send the Bill: Who Really Pays for Cloud Catastrophes?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wnm5eb80kjy7uqd8bkx6oxh5/mxrmxbclc4o3docwlzmdy1dn.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4020</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>140</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III delve into a mix of topics starting with their thoughts on the Jack Daniels Sinatra Select whiskey, including its unique packaging and taste profile. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation then shifts to the challenges developers face with hosting services and unexpected bills, touching on the responsibilities of CTOs within companies and how the role impacts team dynamics and code quality. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wrapping up, they touch on the reality TV show &#39;Love is Blind,&#39; sharing personal takes and humorous insights into the dynamics and drama of the show. Throughout, the duo maintains their light-hearted and engaging banter, making for an entertaining and varied discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Welcome to Whiskey, Web, and Whatnot!&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:49] - Diving Into Today&#39;s Whiskey: Jack Daniels Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:36] - Tasting Notes and Opinions on Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:04] - The Tentacle Scale: Rating Sinatra Select&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Navigating the Costs of Cloud Services&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:42] - The Business of Investing in Web Technologies&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:17] - Exploring the Role of a CTO in Various Company Sizes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:28] - The Evolving Responsibilities of a CTO&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:55] - Navigating Technical Leadership and Team Morale&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:08] - The Fine Line of CTO Involvement in Projects&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:09] - Promotion and Performance in the Tech Industry&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:14] - Shifts in Mentorship and Team Dynamics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:19] - Reality TV Deep Dive: Love is Blind Analysis&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:18] - Gaming, Work-Life Balance, and Podcasting Insights&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wnm5eb80kjy7uqd8bkx6oxh5/rqwberuuav333vnx4mbeisg4/transcoded-01KECKCY0REDREYT52AX6VTCXT-01KECKCY0RB618ZDACVX3V07H2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From AI Deep Dives to Giblets and Fig Wasps with Ken Wheeler</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This episode features a unique blend of discussions and narratives, weaving together spirited debates on technology and AI&#39;s impact on society and creativity, personal stories of whiskey appreciation, and a humorous recount of an epic day drinking adventure gone awry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Hosts Robbie Redundant, Charles Codes No More, and guest Ken Wheeler explore the intersections of tech and life, delving into topics like job automation, the future of software development, and the essence of human creativity in the age of AI. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Meanwhile, a tale of misadventure highlights the lighter, more unpredictable side of tech gatherings, replete with plans gone awry, late-night escapades, and the importance of connecting with friends and family amidst the chaos of professional life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This spirited dialogue captures the essence of navigating the modern world&#39;s complexities with humor, insight, and a healthy dose of alcohol-induced wisdom.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:24] - Introducing Special Guest: Ken Wheeler&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:51] - Diving Into the World of Orphan Barrel Whiskeys&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - The Unique Charm of Orphan Barrel Selections&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:11] - Tasting Notes and Whiskey Rating System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:43] - From EmberJS to Whiskey Marketing Dreams&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:03] - The Evolution of Web Development and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:05] - Gaming: From VR Experiences to GTA Realities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:22] - The Therapeutic World of Power Washing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:48] - The Future of Jobs in the Age of AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:17] - Debating the Future of Work and AI&#39;s Impact&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:22] - The Fight Club Analogy: Resetting the System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:51] - The Trade-Offs of Modern Convenience vs. AI Dominance&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:53] - Survival Skills and the Human Condition&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:29] - The Evolutionary Quirks of Humanity&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:43] - The Predicament of Natural Selection and Human Survival&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:14] - The Vegan Lifestyle: A Modern Luxury&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:18] - Exploring Dietary Choices and Sustainability&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:52] - The Complexities of Preparing and Consuming Food&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:18] - The Future of AI and Its Societal Impacts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:04:00] - The Pursuit of Happiness in Modern Society&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:07:00] - Closing Thoughts and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fb67be3e-e028-49c1-85eb-a832bdda6124</guid><pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2024 21:38:41 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cfo7bqax9nr39ue65b3ku63k.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode features a unique blend of discussions and narratives, weaving together spirited debates on technology and AI's impact on society and creativity, personal stories of whiskey appreciation, and a humorous recount of an epic day drinking adventure gone awry.</p>
<p>
Hosts Robbie Redundant, Charles Codes No More, and guest Ken Wheeler explore the intersections of tech and life, delving into topics like job automation, the future of software development, and the essence of human creativity in the age of AI. </p>
<p>
Meanwhile, a tale of misadventure highlights the lighter, more unpredictable side of tech gatherings, replete with plans gone awry, late-night escapades, and the importance of connecting with friends and family amidst the chaos of professional life.</p>
<p>
This spirited dialogue captures the essence of navigating the modern world's complexities with humor, insight, and a healthy dose of alcohol-induced wisdom.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:24] - Introducing Special Guest: Ken Wheeler</li>
 <li>[00:51] - Diving Into the World of Orphan Barrel Whiskeys</li>
  <li>[01:47] - The Unique Charm of Orphan Barrel Selections</li>
  <li>[09:11] - Tasting Notes and Whiskey Rating System</li>
  <li>[14:43] - From EmberJS to Whiskey Marketing Dreams</li>
  <li>[15:03] - The Evolution of Web Development and Frameworks</li>
  <li>[30:05] - Gaming: From VR Experiences to GTA Realities</li>
  <li>[35:22] - The Therapeutic World of Power Washing</li>
  <li>[37:48] - The Future of Jobs in the Age of AI</li>
  <li>[38:17] - Debating the Future of Work and AI's Impact</li>
  <li>[39:22] - The Fight Club Analogy: Resetting the System</li>
  <li>[39:51] - The Trade-Offs of Modern Convenience vs. AI Dominance</li>
  <li>[40:53] - Survival Skills and the Human Condition</li>
  <li>[41:29] - The Evolutionary Quirks of Humanity</li>
  <li>[42:43] - The Predicament of Natural Selection and Human Survival</li>
  <li>[44:14] - The Vegan Lifestyle: A Modern Luxury</li>
  <li>[45:18] - Exploring Dietary Choices and Sustainability</li>
  <li>[47:52] - The Complexities of Preparing and Consuming Food</li>
  <li>[55:18] - The Future of AI and Its Societal Impacts</li>
  <li>[01:04:00] - The Pursuit of Happiness in Modern Society</li>
  <li>[01:07:00] - Closing Thoughts and Future Plans</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler LinkedIn</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From AI Deep Dives to Giblets and Fig Wasps with Ken Wheeler</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cfo7bqax9nr39ue65b3ku63k/iljdwtw5yq7i3ktjblnvcufl.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4504</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>139</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This episode features a unique blend of discussions and narratives, weaving together spirited debates on technology and AI&#39;s impact on society and creativity, personal stories of whiskey appreciation, and a humorous recount of an epic day drinking adventure gone awry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Hosts Robbie Redundant, Charles Codes No More, and guest Ken Wheeler explore the intersections of tech and life, delving into topics like job automation, the future of software development, and the essence of human creativity in the age of AI. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Meanwhile, a tale of misadventure highlights the lighter, more unpredictable side of tech gatherings, replete with plans gone awry, late-night escapades, and the importance of connecting with friends and family amidst the chaos of professional life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This spirited dialogue captures the essence of navigating the modern world&#39;s complexities with humor, insight, and a healthy dose of alcohol-induced wisdom.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:24] - Introducing Special Guest: Ken Wheeler&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:51] - Diving Into the World of Orphan Barrel Whiskeys&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - The Unique Charm of Orphan Barrel Selections&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:11] - Tasting Notes and Whiskey Rating System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:43] - From EmberJS to Whiskey Marketing Dreams&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:03] - The Evolution of Web Development and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:05] - Gaming: From VR Experiences to GTA Realities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:22] - The Therapeutic World of Power Washing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:48] - The Future of Jobs in the Age of AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:17] - Debating the Future of Work and AI&#39;s Impact&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:22] - The Fight Club Analogy: Resetting the System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:51] - The Trade-Offs of Modern Convenience vs. AI Dominance&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:53] - Survival Skills and the Human Condition&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:29] - The Evolutionary Quirks of Humanity&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:43] - The Predicament of Natural Selection and Human Survival&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:14] - The Vegan Lifestyle: A Modern Luxury&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:18] - Exploring Dietary Choices and Sustainability&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:52] - The Complexities of Preparing and Consuming Food&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:18] - The Future of AI and Its Societal Impacts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:04:00] - The Pursuit of Happiness in Modern Society&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:07:00] - Closing Thoughts and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/d6oybekrcinn137vecwzrafy/thumbnail-d6oybekrcinn137vecwzrafy.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/d6oybekrcinn137vecwzrafy/thumbnail-d6oybekrcinn137vecwzrafy.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cfo7bqax9nr39ue65b3ku63k/wmpimbas3xfuyqv9hzgjj4lw/transcoded-01KECKE4QF71D9JP2D648KP9KZ-01KECKE4QFJGGTH6M9EC0KEV0D_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From Data Lakehouses to Penis Botox: An Unfiltered Journey through Tech and Life w/ Mal</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III (Chuck) kick things off by playfully anticipating Chuck&#39;s landscaper interruptions due to his Phoenix area recording location. They introduce their special guest, Mal (short for Malissa) from Canada, who shares about her career as an analytics engineer and her ventures into content creation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode takes a fun turn into reviewing Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, discussing its unique mash bill, and sharing tasting notes despite Mal&#39;s limited whiskey experience. The conversation then transitions into various topics including the technicality of job titles in tech, hot takes on developer tools and practices, amusing personal anecdotes, and discussions on data, cooking, and their personal preferences in pets, tech tools, and lifestyle choices. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode is filled with light-hearted banter, insightful discussions on technology, personal stories, and a deep dive into the nuances of whiskey tasting.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:40] - Special Guest Introduction: Mal&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:44] - Diving into Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:59] - Mal&#39;s Drink Preferences and Sugar Revelations&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:04] - The Art of Tasting Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:05] - Shipping Alcohol Challenges and Canadian Living&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:30] - Tech Talk: Hot Takes on Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:15] - Data Talk: Analytics Engineer Insights&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[33:48] - Decoding Data Lakes vs. Data Warehouses&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - Celebrity Neighbors and Lakeside Living&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:59] - Exploring Voice Flow and AI Automation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:24] - The Journey of Finding Passion Projects&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:42] - AI Misconceptions and Realities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:37] - Navigating Remote Work and Team Dynamics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:49] - The Quest for the Perfect Home Office Setup&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:48] - Culinary Adventures and the Costco Hotdog Dilemma&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:06] - Reflections on Personal Branding and Online Presence&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/malware_yml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mal Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@malware_yml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mal YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">dd281bbf-d2f5-457f-9957-96b23f46dfa4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/f4frer6qabg7fl8u0mwrspdy.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot', hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III (Chuck) kick things off by playfully anticipating Chuck's landscaper interruptions due to his Phoenix area recording location. They introduce their special guest, Mal (short for Malissa) from Canada, who shares about her career as an analytics engineer and her ventures into content creation. </p>
<p>
The episode takes a fun turn into reviewing Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, discussing its unique mash bill, and sharing tasting notes despite Mal's limited whiskey experience. The conversation then transitions into various topics including the technicality of job titles in tech, hot takes on developer tools and practices, amusing personal anecdotes, and discussions on data, cooking, and their personal preferences in pets, tech tools, and lifestyle choices. </p>
<p>
The episode is filled with light-hearted banter, insightful discussions on technology, personal stories, and a deep dive into the nuances of whiskey tasting.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:40] - Special Guest Introduction: Mal</li>
 <li>[01:44] - Diving into Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Bourbon</li>
 <li>[02:59] - Mal's Drink Preferences and Sugar Revelations</li>
 <li>[07:04] - The Art of Tasting Whiskey</li>
 <li>[09:05] - Shipping Alcohol Challenges and Canadian Living</li>
 <li>[13:30] - Tech Talk: Hot Takes on Development Tools</li>
 <li>[25:15] - Data Talk: Analytics Engineer Insights</li>
 <li>[33:48] - Decoding Data Lakes vs. Data Warehouses</li>
  <li>[34:37] - Celebrity Neighbors and Lakeside Living</li>
  <li>[35:59] - Exploring Voice Flow and AI Automation</li>
  <li>[36:24] - The Journey of Finding Passion Projects</li>
  <li>[38:42] - AI Misconceptions and Realities</li>
  <li>[46:37] - Navigating Remote Work and Team Dynamics</li>
  <li>[46:49] - The Quest for the Perfect Home Office Setup</li>
  <li>[54:48] - Culinary Adventures and the Costco Hotdog Dilemma</li>
  <li>[01:01:06] - Reflections on Personal Branding and Online Presence</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/malware_yml" target="_blank">Mal Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@malware_yml" target="_blank">Mal YouTube</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.</p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From Data Lakehouses to Penis Botox: An Unfiltered Journey through Tech and Life w/ Mal</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/f4frer6qabg7fl8u0mwrspdy/ugr65hybui4mfja3ht3mhapu.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4108</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>138</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III (Chuck) kick things off by playfully anticipating Chuck&#39;s landscaper interruptions due to his Phoenix area recording location. They introduce their special guest, Mal (short for Malissa) from Canada, who shares about her career as an analytics engineer and her ventures into content creation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode takes a fun turn into reviewing Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, discussing its unique mash bill, and sharing tasting notes despite Mal&#39;s limited whiskey experience. The conversation then transitions into various topics including the technicality of job titles in tech, hot takes on developer tools and practices, amusing personal anecdotes, and discussions on data, cooking, and their personal preferences in pets, tech tools, and lifestyle choices. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode is filled with light-hearted banter, insightful discussions on technology, personal stories, and a deep dive into the nuances of whiskey tasting.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:40] - Special Guest Introduction: Mal&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:44] - Diving into Rabbit Hole Cave Hill Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:59] - Mal&#39;s Drink Preferences and Sugar Revelations&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:04] - The Art of Tasting Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:05] - Shipping Alcohol Challenges and Canadian Living&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:30] - Tech Talk: Hot Takes on Development Tools&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:15] - Data Talk: Analytics Engineer Insights&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[33:48] - Decoding Data Lakes vs. Data Warehouses&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - Celebrity Neighbors and Lakeside Living&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:59] - Exploring Voice Flow and AI Automation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:24] - The Journey of Finding Passion Projects&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:42] - AI Misconceptions and Realities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:37] - Navigating Remote Work and Team Dynamics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:49] - The Quest for the Perfect Home Office Setup&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:48] - Culinary Adventures and the Costco Hotdog Dilemma&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:06] - Reflections on Personal Branding and Online Presence&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/malware_yml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mal Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@malware_yml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mal YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/f4frer6qabg7fl8u0mwrspdy/ygd6gzogw8eod8cl8uznqzic/transcoded-01KECKE2AB2HXES5S2NKJZ5Z1G-01KECKE2AB0CZPDDY8GD7TD401_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Unleash Developer Superpowers: Tracksuits, Productivity Hacks &amp; Wordpress on Vercel w/ Joel Griffith</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot,&#39; hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome Joel Griffith, founder and CEO of Browserless.io. The trio initially clarifies the common confusion between whiskey and bourbon, setting the tone for a detailed discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Joel shares his unique journey from a jazz trumpet player to a software engineer, and eventually to the CEO of a company dedicated to streamlining the usage of headless browsers for various applications, including web scraping, automation, and testing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Additionally, the episode ventures into a vibrant discussion on gaming, with a focus on &#39;The Legend of Zelda&#39; series, comparing the immersive experiences of &#39;Ocarina of Time&#39; and &#39;Breath of the Wild.&#39; The conversation also touches upon issues like the technicalities of deploying WordPress on Vercel, reflections on nostalgia-driven gaming, and candid insights into potential alternative careers away from tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This episode offers a blend of information, personal anecdotes, and opinions, driven by a shared passion for technology, gaming, and, of course, whiskey.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - Introducing Joel Griffith and the Not-So-Whiskey Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Joel&#39;s Journey: From Jazz to JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:27] - Diving into the World of Browserless.io&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:03] - The Star of the Show: Blanton&#39;s Bourbon Review&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:16] - Rating the Bourbon: Tentacles and Tastes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:15] - Hot Takes on TypeScript and Tailwind vs. Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:10] - The Great Debate: Tailwind, Vanilla CSS, or JSS?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:55] - Diving into Dining: IHOP vs. Applebee&#39;s&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:43] - The Birth of Browserless: A Developer&#39;s Journey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:55] - Exploring the Versatility of Browserless&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:55] - The Future of Secure Online Banking with Browserless&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:37] - Gaming Nostalgia: From Zelda to Diablo&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:20] - Career Paths Outside of Tech: From Music to Junk Removal&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-griffith-93933332/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joel Griffith LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.browserless.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Browserless&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">75f7345d-746a-4ea0-b666-90aada741f64</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lnby8cb6mvhz57d0uldeiii7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot,' hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome Joel Griffith, founder and CEO of Browserless.io. The trio initially clarifies the common confusion between whiskey and bourbon, setting the tone for a detailed discussion.
</p><p>Joel shares his unique journey from a jazz trumpet player to a software engineer, and eventually to the CEO of a company dedicated to streamlining the usage of headless browsers for various applications, including web scraping, automation, and testing.</p>

<p>Additionally, the episode ventures into a vibrant discussion on gaming, with a focus on 'The Legend of Zelda' series, comparing the immersive experiences of 'Ocarina of Time' and 'Breath of the Wild.' The conversation also touches upon issues like the technicalities of deploying WordPress on Vercel, reflections on nostalgia-driven gaming, and candid insights into potential alternative careers away from tech.
</p>
<p>This episode offers a blend of information, personal anecdotes, and opinions, driven by a shared passion for technology, gaming, and, of course, whiskey.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:33] - Introducing Joel Griffith and the Not-So-Whiskey Bourbon</li>
 <li>[01:22] - Joel's Journey: From Jazz to JavaScript</li>
 <li>[01:27] - Diving into the World of Browserless.io</li>
 <li>[03:03] - The Star of the Show: Blanton's Bourbon Review</li>
 <li>[07:16] - Rating the Bourbon: Tentacles and Tastes</li>
 <li>[13:15] - Hot Takes on TypeScript and Tailwind vs. Vanilla CSS</li>
  <li>[28:10] - The Great Debate: Tailwind, Vanilla CSS, or JSS?</li>
  <li>[33:55] - Diving into Dining: IHOP vs. Applebee's</li>
  <li>[37:43] - The Birth of Browserless: A Developer's Journey</li>
  <li>[37:55] - Exploring the Versatility of Browserless</li>
  <li>[42:55] - The Future of Secure Online Banking with Browserless</li>
  <li>[49:37] - Gaming Nostalgia: From Zelda to Diablo</li>
  <li>[59:20] - Career Paths Outside of Tech: From Music to Junk Removal</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-griffith-93933332/" target="_blank">Joel Griffith LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.browserless.io/" target="_blank">Browserless</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskey.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.</p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Unleash Developer Superpowers: Tracksuits, Productivity Hacks &amp; Wordpress on Vercel w/ Joel Griffith</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lnby8cb6mvhz57d0uldeiii7/hn4sxu2e779873gnecvt4nrg.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3794</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>137</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot,&#39; hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome Joel Griffith, founder and CEO of Browserless.io. The trio initially clarifies the common confusion between whiskey and bourbon, setting the tone for a detailed discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Joel shares his unique journey from a jazz trumpet player to a software engineer, and eventually to the CEO of a company dedicated to streamlining the usage of headless browsers for various applications, including web scraping, automation, and testing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Additionally, the episode ventures into a vibrant discussion on gaming, with a focus on &#39;The Legend of Zelda&#39; series, comparing the immersive experiences of &#39;Ocarina of Time&#39; and &#39;Breath of the Wild.&#39; The conversation also touches upon issues like the technicalities of deploying WordPress on Vercel, reflections on nostalgia-driven gaming, and candid insights into potential alternative careers away from tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This episode offers a blend of information, personal anecdotes, and opinions, driven by a shared passion for technology, gaming, and, of course, whiskey.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - Introducing Joel Griffith and the Not-So-Whiskey Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Joel&#39;s Journey: From Jazz to JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:27] - Diving into the World of Browserless.io&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:03] - The Star of the Show: Blanton&#39;s Bourbon Review&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:16] - Rating the Bourbon: Tentacles and Tastes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:15] - Hot Takes on TypeScript and Tailwind vs. Vanilla CSS&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:10] - The Great Debate: Tailwind, Vanilla CSS, or JSS?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:55] - Diving into Dining: IHOP vs. Applebee&#39;s&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:43] - The Birth of Browserless: A Developer&#39;s Journey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:55] - Exploring the Versatility of Browserless&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:55] - The Future of Secure Online Banking with Browserless&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:37] - Gaming Nostalgia: From Zelda to Diablo&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:20] - Career Paths Outside of Tech: From Music to Junk Removal&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-griffith-93933332/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joel Griffith LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.browserless.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Browserless&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/xv85ub194tn3pyvn7vul8pzu/thumbnail-xv85ub194tn3pyvn7vul8pzu.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/xv85ub194tn3pyvn7vul8pzu/thumbnail-xv85ub194tn3pyvn7vul8pzu.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lnby8cb6mvhz57d0uldeiii7/oh1vtqoiseudh72wj7n4ws2h/transcoded-01KECKE1M5PA9JYD7ZPYEY4CKN-01KECKE1M500PM8ZKRF4R30NAQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>FEHH x WWW: AI, VR, and the Future of Web Development</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this crossover episode, Chuck and Robbie join Jem Young and Ryan Burgess from Front End Happy Hour for an engaging discussion over whiskey. They share their career backgrounds, touching on their work with major tech brands like Netflix, Amazon, and National Geographic, and their personal passions within the tech industry, including open source contributions and a love for TypeScript and Ember. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation delves into the implications of emerging technologies like AI, VR, and the Apple Vision Pro on their industry, exploring how these advancements could influence web development, cybersecurity, and the job market. The hosts weigh in on the importance of foundational knowledge in the ever-evolving tech landscape, their views on using AI tools like Copilot during coding processes, and the potential impacts of AI on the authenticity of digital interactions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They also discuss their excitement for older web technologies making a return and share their favorite cocktails, highlighting how personal interests and professional insights blend in this insightful and relaxed discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Kicking Off with Whiskey and Introductions&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:12] - Diving into the Apple Vision Pro Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[17:07] - Exploring the Implications of AI and Digital Avatars&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[24:18] - Exploring the Impact of AI and VR on Engineering and Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:08] - AI&#39;s Potential Laziness and the Dual Nature of Technology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:07] - The Power and Limitations of AI in Decision Making&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:12] - AI as a Tool for Efficiency and Creativity in Engineering&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:51] - The Risks and Challenges of AI in Professional Settings&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:04] - Navigating the Integration of AI Tools in the Workplace&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:17] - The Future of Job Skills and Interview Processes in the AI Era&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:46] - Closing Thoughts: Excitement for Future Technologies and Cocktails&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/burgessdryan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/JemYoung&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jem Young Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jemyoung/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jem Young LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Happy Hour&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1bf030d7-3889-4e81-b8c3-854259da9b17</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/w8443r6d5hsr1icxxuottjrg.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this crossover episode, Chuck and Robbie join Jem Young and Ryan Burgess from Front End Happy Hour for an engaging discussion over whiskey. They share their career backgrounds, touching on their work with major tech brands like Netflix, Amazon, and National Geographic, and their personal passions within the tech industry, including open source contributions and a love for TypeScript and Ember. </p>
<p>
The conversation delves into the implications of emerging technologies like AI, VR, and the Apple Vision Pro on their industry, exploring how these advancements could influence web development, cybersecurity, and the job market. The hosts weigh in on the importance of foundational knowledge in the ever-evolving tech landscape, their views on using AI tools like Copilot during coding processes, and the potential impacts of AI on the authenticity of digital interactions. </p>
<p>
They also discuss their excitement for older web technologies making a return and share their favorite cocktails, highlighting how personal interests and professional insights blend in this insightful and relaxed discussion.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:00] - Kicking Off with Whiskey and Introductions</li>
 <li>[05:12] - Diving into the Apple Vision Pro Discussion</li>
 <li>[17:07] - Exploring the Implications of AI and Digital Avatars</li>
 <li>[24:18] - Exploring the Impact of AI and VR on Engineering and Tech</li>
  <li>[25:08] - AI's Potential Laziness and the Dual Nature of Technology</li>
  <li>[26:07] - The Power and Limitations of AI in Decision Making</li>
  <li>[28:12] - AI as a Tool for Efficiency and Creativity in Engineering</li>
  <li>[30:51] - The Risks and Challenges of AI in Professional Settings</li>
  <li>[35:04] - Navigating the Integration of AI Tools in the Workplace</li>
  <li>[39:17] - The Future of Job Skills and Interview Processes in the AI Era</li>
  <li>[45:46] - Closing Thoughts: Excitement for Future Technologies and Cocktails</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/burgessdryan" target="_blank">Ryan Burgess Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/" target="_blank">Ryan Burgess LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/JemYoung" target="_blank">Jem Young Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jemyoung/" target="_blank">Jem Young LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/" target="_blank">Front End Happy Hour</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
<p><br></p>
</ul>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>FEHH x WWW: AI, VR, and the Future of Web Development</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w8443r6d5hsr1icxxuottjrg/mgu40pwm28chp1rru32fggji.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3201</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>187</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this crossover episode, Chuck and Robbie join Jem Young and Ryan Burgess from Front End Happy Hour for an engaging discussion over whiskey. They share their career backgrounds, touching on their work with major tech brands like Netflix, Amazon, and National Geographic, and their personal passions within the tech industry, including open source contributions and a love for TypeScript and Ember. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation delves into the implications of emerging technologies like AI, VR, and the Apple Vision Pro on their industry, exploring how these advancements could influence web development, cybersecurity, and the job market. The hosts weigh in on the importance of foundational knowledge in the ever-evolving tech landscape, their views on using AI tools like Copilot during coding processes, and the potential impacts of AI on the authenticity of digital interactions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They also discuss their excitement for older web technologies making a return and share their favorite cocktails, highlighting how personal interests and professional insights blend in this insightful and relaxed discussion.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:00] - Kicking Off with Whiskey and Introductions&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:12] - Diving into the Apple Vision Pro Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[17:07] - Exploring the Implications of AI and Digital Avatars&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[24:18] - Exploring the Impact of AI and VR on Engineering and Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:08] - AI&#39;s Potential Laziness and the Dual Nature of Technology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:07] - The Power and Limitations of AI in Decision Making&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:12] - AI as a Tool for Efficiency and Creativity in Engineering&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:51] - The Risks and Challenges of AI in Professional Settings&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:04] - Navigating the Integration of AI Tools in the Workplace&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:17] - The Future of Job Skills and Interview Processes in the AI Era&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:46] - Closing Thoughts: Excitement for Future Technologies and Cocktails&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/burgessdryan&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/JemYoung&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jem Young Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jemyoung/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jem Young LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Happy Hour&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w8443r6d5hsr1icxxuottjrg/swe4081nyo57r5cpfel8mdts/transcoded-01KECKDY3BDF5RE12AX30DNZCJ-01KECKDY3BA96F6KYRTZ9AYA76_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Curling, Coding, and Deno with Kevin Whinnery</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot,&#39; hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Kevin Whinnery, a member of the Deno team. They discuss Kevin&#39;s work with JavaScript, his journey with Deno, and his previous experience at Twilio, including the creation of TwilioQuest. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation also covers the hosts&#39; and guest&#39;s passion for whiskey, with a tasting of Templeton Rye, exploring its unique flavors and aroma. Furthermore, Kevin talks about his involvement in curling, his perspective on key-value databases, and potential alternate career paths outside of technology. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode also delves into discussions on various developer tools, runtime options like Deno and Bun, and the competitive yet cooperative atmosphere within JavaScript and web development. Toward the end, Kevin shares insights into the upcoming Deno 2.0 launch and his personal interests outside of tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] Introducing Kevin Whinnery from the Deno Team&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:46] Diving into the World of Whiskey: Templeton Rye Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:56] Whiskey Rating Time: How Does Templeton Rye Stack Up?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:17] Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:21] Exploring Deno: The Future of JavaScript Runtimes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:12] Navigating the Wild West of JavaScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:54] The Future of TypeScript and ECMAScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:29] Deno vs. Node: The Battle for JavaScript Runtime Supremacy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:36] The Ecosystem of Developer Tools and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:54] Exploring Key Value Databases: Use Cases and Best Practices&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:46] The Art of Content Creation and Teaching in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:31] A Deep Dive into the World of Curling&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:21] Alternate Career Paths and Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kevinwhinnery&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kevin Whinnery Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwhinnery/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kevin Whinnery LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ed6aac4c-8ee6-4fa3-a2e1-de0f422428b0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mnr6s00roprzwkhhl9qk1oue.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 'Whiskey Web and Whatnot,' hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Kevin Whinnery, a member of the Deno team. They discuss Kevin's work with JavaScript, his journey with Deno, and his previous experience at Twilio, including the creation of TwilioQuest. </p>
<p>
The conversation also covers the hosts' and guest's passion for whiskey, with a tasting of Templeton Rye, exploring its unique flavors and aroma. Furthermore, Kevin talks about his involvement in curling, his perspective on key-value databases, and potential alternate career paths outside of technology. </p>
<p>
The episode also delves into discussions on various developer tools, runtime options like Deno and Bun, and the competitive yet cooperative atmosphere within JavaScript and web development. Toward the end, Kevin shares insights into the upcoming Deno 2.0 launch and his personal interests outside of tech.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:35] Introducing Kevin Whinnery from the Deno Team</li>
 <li>[01:46] Diving into the World of Whiskey: Templeton Rye Tasting</li>
  <li>[06:56] Whiskey Rating Time: How Does Templeton Rye Stack Up?</li>
  <li>[11:17] Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and More</li>
  <li>[22:21] Exploring Deno: The Future of JavaScript Runtimes</li>
  <li>[24:12] Navigating the Wild West of JavaScript Modules</li>
  <li>[24:54] The Future of TypeScript and ECMAScript Modules</li>
  <li>[25:29] Deno vs. Node: The Battle for JavaScript Runtime Supremacy</li>
  <li>[27:36] The Ecosystem of Developer Tools and Frameworks</li>
  <li>[36:54] Exploring Key Value Databases: Use Cases and Best Practices</li>
  <li>[41:46] The Art of Content Creation and Teaching in Tech</li>
  <li>[44:31] A Deep Dive into the World of Curling</li>
  <li>[52:21] Alternate Career Paths and Final Thoughts</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/kevinwhinnery" target="_blank">Kevin Whinnery Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwhinnery/" target="_blank">Kevin Whinnery LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://deno.com/" target="_blank">Deno</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Curling, Coding, and Deno with Kevin Whinnery</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mnr6s00roprzwkhhl9qk1oue/a747shncw6ozt09s61099gy4.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3319</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>136</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &#39;Whiskey Web and Whatnot,&#39; hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by Kevin Whinnery, a member of the Deno team. They discuss Kevin&#39;s work with JavaScript, his journey with Deno, and his previous experience at Twilio, including the creation of TwilioQuest. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The conversation also covers the hosts&#39; and guest&#39;s passion for whiskey, with a tasting of Templeton Rye, exploring its unique flavors and aroma. Furthermore, Kevin talks about his involvement in curling, his perspective on key-value databases, and potential alternate career paths outside of technology. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The episode also delves into discussions on various developer tools, runtime options like Deno and Bun, and the competitive yet cooperative atmosphere within JavaScript and web development. Toward the end, Kevin shares insights into the upcoming Deno 2.0 launch and his personal interests outside of tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] Introducing Kevin Whinnery from the Deno Team&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:46] Diving into the World of Whiskey: Templeton Rye Tasting&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:56] Whiskey Rating Time: How Does Templeton Rye Stack Up?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:17] Tech Talk: TypeScript, Tailwind, Git, and More&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:21] Exploring Deno: The Future of JavaScript Runtimes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:12] Navigating the Wild West of JavaScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:54] The Future of TypeScript and ECMAScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:29] Deno vs. Node: The Battle for JavaScript Runtime Supremacy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:36] The Ecosystem of Developer Tools and Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:54] Exploring Key Value Databases: Use Cases and Best Practices&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:46] The Art of Content Creation and Teaching in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:31] A Deep Dive into the World of Curling&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:21] Alternate Career Paths and Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kevinwhinnery&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kevin Whinnery Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwhinnery/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kevin Whinnery LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://www.reactmiami.com/⁠&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/aatcsmv75up42kon3dwascgf/thumbnail-aatcsmv75up42kon3dwascgf.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/aatcsmv75up42kon3dwascgf/thumbnail-aatcsmv75up42kon3dwascgf.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mnr6s00roprzwkhhl9qk1oue/qfckufgx8w3zdxxdwu21xgfl/transcoded-01KECKE0X9HP7HC3BCWTDTHQVG-01KECKE0X9P3JMK9B5GXACZN4J_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>From React Miami to Fly Fishing: Diving Deep with ThePrimeagen and Friends</title><description>&lt;p&gt;This episode uniquely blends a variety of discussions, ranging from Prime Barrel whiskey tastings with RobbieTheWagner, Charles &#34;the Plumber&#34; Carpenter, and ThePrimeagen, to in-depth explorations of tech, fitness, and lifestyle optimization. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts share personal anecdotes, humor, and insights across topics like the appeal of living in Bozeman, Montana, web development complexities, and the importance of simplicity in daily routines. Highlights include a special whiskey tasting session, examining brands like Angel&#39;s Envy and New England Barrel Company, and engaging thoughts on the health aspects of nicotine, exercise-induced cortisol production, and the impact of digital interactions on social well-being. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The dialogue encapsulates a spirited debate on achieving a productive work-life balance, the influence of tech and social media, alongside a passion for whiskey appreciation.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:47] - Diving into ThePrimeagen&#39;s Whiskey Selection&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:20] - First Taste: Angel&#39;s Envy Bourbon Review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:24] - Exploring the Nashville Rye: Smashville&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:19] - Wilderness Trail Tasting: Memories and Pencils&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:49] - Tech Talk: The Simplicity of Django and Go&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:07] - New England Whiskey: A Go Team&#39;s Happiness&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:40] - Exploring New England Barrel Company&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:56] - The Intricacies of Blood Orange in Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:50] - Travel Tales and Montana Adventures&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:15] - The Art of Fly Fishing and Secret Spots&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:22] - Whiskey Tasting Notes and Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:07] - React and Tech Twitter: A Candid Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:01] - The Whiskey Selection Process: Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:07:37] - Lifestyle Choices: Workout Clothes and Minimalism&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:12:40] - Unveiling the Best Barrel Picks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:13:17] - Pre-React Miami Party Plans and Travel Woes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:14:35] - The Evolution of Tech Influence and Twitter Culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:16:32] - Reflecting on the Future of Tech Twitter and Content Creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:30:50] - The Prime Barrel Whiskey Tasting: A Deep Dive&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:45:57] - A Unique House Purchase Story&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:49:56] - Wrapping Up with Primeagen&#39;s Recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vip.primebarrel.com/webwhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime Barrel New England Barrel Co Pick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d9385848-452c-4665-904e-ef3891808ad2</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2024 13:13:54 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/l0vok4r07knhn7hhe701xbs6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode uniquely blends a variety of discussions, ranging from Prime Barrel whiskey tastings with RobbieTheWagner, Charles "the Plumber" Carpenter, and ThePrimeagen, to in-depth explorations of tech, fitness, and lifestyle optimization. </p>
<p>
The hosts share personal anecdotes, humor, and insights across topics like the appeal of living in Bozeman, Montana, web development complexities, and the importance of simplicity in daily routines. Highlights include a special whiskey tasting session, examining brands like Angel's Envy and New England Barrel Company, and engaging thoughts on the health aspects of nicotine, exercise-induced cortisol production, and the impact of digital interactions on social well-being. </p>
<p>
The dialogue encapsulates a spirited debate on achieving a productive work-life balance, the influence of tech and social media, alongside a passion for whiskey appreciation.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:47] - Diving into ThePrimeagen's Whiskey Selection</li>
 <li>[01:20] - First Taste: Angel's Envy Bourbon Review</li>
  <li>[11:24] - Exploring the Nashville Rye: Smashville</li>
  <li>[26:19] - Wilderness Trail Tasting: Memories and Pencils</li>
  <li>[30:49] - Tech Talk: The Simplicity of Django and Go</li>
  <li>[39:07] - New England Whiskey: A Go Team's Happiness</li>
  <li>[40:40] - Exploring New England Barrel Company's Bourbon</li>
  <li>[40:56] - The Intricacies of Blood Orange in Whiskey</li>
  <li>[42:50] - Travel Tales and Montana Adventures</li>
  <li>[44:15] - The Art of Fly Fishing and Secret Spots</li>
  <li>[48:22] - Whiskey Tasting Notes and Preferences</li>
  <li>[50:07] - React and Tech Twitter: A Candid Discussion</li>
  <li>[56:01] - The Whiskey Selection Process: Final Thoughts</li>
  <li>[01:07:37] - Lifestyle Choices: Workout Clothes and Minimalism</li>
  <li>[01:12:40] - Unveiling the Best Barrel Picks</li>
  <li>[01:13:17] - Pre-React Miami Party Plans and Travel Woes</li>
  <li>[01:14:35] - The Evolution of Tech Influence and Twitter Culture</li>
  <li>[01:16:32] - Reflecting on the Future of Tech Twitter and Content Creation</li>
  <li>[01:30:50] - The Prime Barrel Whiskey Tasting: A Deep Dive</li>
  <li>[01:45:57] - A Unique House Purchase Story</li>
  <li>[01:49:56] - Wrapping Up with Primeagen's Recommendations</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vip.primebarrel.com/webwhatnot" target="_blank">Prime Barrel New England Barrel Co Pick</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>From React Miami to Fly Fishing: Diving Deep with ThePrimeagen and Friends</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/l0vok4r07knhn7hhe701xbs6/tbqsl66n6ac666739fao4xf8.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>6969</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>135</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This episode uniquely blends a variety of discussions, ranging from Prime Barrel whiskey tastings with RobbieTheWagner, Charles &#34;the Plumber&#34; Carpenter, and ThePrimeagen, to in-depth explorations of tech, fitness, and lifestyle optimization. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts share personal anecdotes, humor, and insights across topics like the appeal of living in Bozeman, Montana, web development complexities, and the importance of simplicity in daily routines. Highlights include a special whiskey tasting session, examining brands like Angel&#39;s Envy and New England Barrel Company, and engaging thoughts on the health aspects of nicotine, exercise-induced cortisol production, and the impact of digital interactions on social well-being. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The dialogue encapsulates a spirited debate on achieving a productive work-life balance, the influence of tech and social media, alongside a passion for whiskey appreciation.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:47] - Diving into ThePrimeagen&#39;s Whiskey Selection&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:20] - First Taste: Angel&#39;s Envy Bourbon Review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:24] - Exploring the Nashville Rye: Smashville&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:19] - Wilderness Trail Tasting: Memories and Pencils&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:49] - Tech Talk: The Simplicity of Django and Go&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:07] - New England Whiskey: A Go Team&#39;s Happiness&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:40] - Exploring New England Barrel Company&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:56] - The Intricacies of Blood Orange in Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:50] - Travel Tales and Montana Adventures&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:15] - The Art of Fly Fishing and Secret Spots&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:22] - Whiskey Tasting Notes and Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:07] - React and Tech Twitter: A Candid Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:01] - The Whiskey Selection Process: Final Thoughts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:07:37] - Lifestyle Choices: Workout Clothes and Minimalism&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:12:40] - Unveiling the Best Barrel Picks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:13:17] - Pre-React Miami Party Plans and Travel Woes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:14:35] - The Evolution of Tech Influence and Twitter Culture&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:16:32] - Reflecting on the Future of Tech Twitter and Content Creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:30:50] - The Prime Barrel Whiskey Tasting: A Deep Dive&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:45:57] - A Unique House Purchase Story&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:49:56] - Wrapping Up with Primeagen&#39;s Recommendations&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vip.primebarrel.com/webwhatnot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime Barrel New England Barrel Co Pick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/l0vok4r07knhn7hhe701xbs6/etb9x0m668zlhpqzma7t6fy6/transcoded-01KECKEJXJG8ER4FWY4SMKQ63H-01KECKEJXJB4DJPSR3PE3H4XFC_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Empowering Black Women in Tech: Shaundai&#39;s Insightful Discussion on Self-Promotion and Career Growth</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast welcomes Shaundai Person, a senior software engineer at Netflix, to discuss her impressive career transition from sales to software engineering.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aside from some light-hearted banter about whiskey, pants confusion with her tall six-year-old son, love for rap, and previous experience with older technology, Shaundai shares how she leverages her transferable skillset, specifically soft skills she developed in sales, to excel in the tech industry.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shaundai emphasizes the importance of self-promotion to stand out and offers advice to other people transitioning into tech. She also touches on her upcoming TypeScript course and her strategic collaboration with Egghead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Meet the Guest: Shaundai Person&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:24] - Whiskey of the Day: Uncle Nearest 1884&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:00] - Tasting and Discussing the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:04] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:59] - Deep Dive into GraphQL&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:10] - Career Advice and Personal Stories&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:29] - Confidence in Interviews&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:50] - Personal Responsibility and Evangelizing Your Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:42] - Diversity, Representation, and Authenticity&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:45] - Capitalizing on Natural Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:10] - Cultural Appreciation vs Appropriation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:20] - Hip Hop and Cultural Influence&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:44] - The Journey of Creating a Tech Course&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:45] - Growing Up Fast: A Parent&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:28] - Social Media Presence and Personal Branding&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tsforjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TS for JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5ca73d12-31fe-4ceb-9c2a-e335654c7f0c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rlc0foof8atp8uixgn2lgv3k.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast welcomes Shaundai Person, a senior software engineer at Netflix, to discuss her impressive career transition from sales to software engineering.
</p>
<p>Aside from some light-hearted banter about whiskey, pants confusion with her tall six-year-old son, love for rap, and previous experience with older technology, Shaundai shares how she leverages her transferable skillset, specifically soft skills she developed in sales, to excel in the tech industry.
</p><p>Shaundai emphasizes the importance of self-promotion to stand out and offers advice to other people transitioning into tech. She also touches on her upcoming TypeScript course and her strategic collaboration with Egghead.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:37] - Meet the Guest: Shaundai Person</li>
 <li>[01:24] - Whiskey of the Day: Uncle Nearest 1884</li>
  <li>[03:00] - Tasting and Discussing the Whiskey</li>
  <li>[10:04] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics</li>
  <li>[21:59] - Deep Dive into GraphQL</li>
  <li>[24:10] - Career Advice and Personal Stories</li>
  <li>[34:29] - Confidence in Interviews</li>
  <li>[34:50] - Personal Responsibility and Evangelizing Your Skills</li>
  <li>[35:42] - Diversity, Representation, and Authenticity</li>
  <li>[38:45] - Capitalizing on Natural Skills</li>
  <li>[42:10] - Cultural Appreciation vs Appropriation</li>
  <li>[45:20] - Hip Hop and Cultural Influence</li>
  <li>[53:44] - The Journey of Creating a Tech Course</li>
  <li>[57:45] - Growing Up Fast: A Parent's Perspective</li>
  <li>[59:28] - Social Media Presence and Personal Branding</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/shaundai" target="_blank">Shaundai Person Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/" target="_blank">Shaundai Person LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tsforjs.com/" target="_blank">TS for JS</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>React Miami</strong></p>
<p>We'll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like "is Tailwind cool?". Will we see you there? If you haven't gotten tickets yet, you can go to <a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">https://www.reactmiami.com/</a> and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.
</p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Empowering Black Women in Tech: Shaundai&#39;s Insightful Discussion on Self-Promotion and Career Growth</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rlc0foof8atp8uixgn2lgv3k/hr7l53i9jp7cbg1aaibn6j9x.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>134</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The Whiskey Web and Whatnot podcast welcomes Shaundai Person, a senior software engineer at Netflix, to discuss her impressive career transition from sales to software engineering.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Aside from some light-hearted banter about whiskey, pants confusion with her tall six-year-old son, love for rap, and previous experience with older technology, Shaundai shares how she leverages her transferable skillset, specifically soft skills she developed in sales, to excel in the tech industry.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shaundai emphasizes the importance of self-promotion to stand out and offers advice to other people transitioning into tech. She also touches on her upcoming TypeScript course and her strategic collaboration with Egghead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Meet the Guest: Shaundai Person&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:24] - Whiskey of the Day: Uncle Nearest 1884&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:00] - Tasting and Discussing the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:04] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:59] - Deep Dive into GraphQL&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:10] - Career Advice and Personal Stories&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:29] - Confidence in Interviews&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:50] - Personal Responsibility and Evangelizing Your Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:42] - Diversity, Representation, and Authenticity&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:45] - Capitalizing on Natural Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:10] - Cultural Appreciation vs Appropriation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:20] - Hip Hop and Cultural Influence&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:44] - The Journey of Creating a Tech Course&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:45] - Growing Up Fast: A Parent&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:28] - Social Media Presence and Personal Branding&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tsforjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TS for JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;React Miami&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We&#39;ll be at React Miami hitting the streets and getting answers from the people on hard hitting questions like &#34;is Tailwind cool?&#34;. Will we see you there? If you haven&#39;t gotten tickets yet, you can go to &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://www.reactmiami.com/&lt;/a&gt; and use code WhiskeyWebMiami for $50 off your ticket.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/t7slycom1zbd6j3y3j8tlkaf/thumbnail-t7slycom1zbd6j3y3j8tlkaf.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/t7slycom1zbd6j3y3j8tlkaf/thumbnail-t7slycom1zbd6j3y3j8tlkaf.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rlc0foof8atp8uixgn2lgv3k/f1uea4v7ldxum6koybif0trp/transcoded-01KECKD0EGGA2H5WD80JBRVGYP-01KECKD0EG9KPV30NG3XVCFA68_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Inclusive Experiences in React Applications: Championing Neurodivergent Accessibility w/ Amera White</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts Robbie and Charles discuss various aspects of coding and web development with special guest, experienced front-end Engineer, Amera White. She shares her personal journey of transitioning from a career in aviation to the tech sector and the experiences that deepened her passion for web accessibility. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They highlight the challenges for neurodivergent individuals on the web and discuss how to improve this through better design and coding practices, emphasizing the importance of personalization and empathy in development. The discussions also include a walkthrough on various coding topics such as the use of TypeScript, Tailwind CSS, dealing with neurodivergent audiences and the benefits of using accessible web development strategies.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:19] - Getting to Know the Guest: Amera White&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:05] - Whiskey Tasting: Teeling Single Grain&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:31] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Hot Takes: Tech Edition&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:01] - Understanding Neurodivergence&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:27] - Improving Website Accessibility for Neurodivergent Users&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:02] - The Power of Netflix and Platform Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:23] - The Struggles of Web Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:16] - The Importance of Incorporating Accessibility in the Process&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:06] - The Challenges of Corporate Responsibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:37] - The Impact of Lawsuits and Regulations on Web Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:19] - The Benefits of Accessibility for Everyone&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:54] - The Disconnect Between Business and Employee Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:09] - The Importance of Teaching Accessibility Early&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:49] - The Role of SEO in Promoting Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:21] - The Impact of AI on Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:49] - The Challenges and Fun of Working in TSA&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:06] - The Transition from TSA to Coding&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:51] - The Importance of Beyoncé in Web Design&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/AmeraWhite2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amera White Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/amerawhite/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amera White LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/beyonc%C3%A9s-internet/jbloclglibpalcdiphckboobpjoiebkp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beyoncé&#39;s Internet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e3f9839b-ccf0-4842-af94-1927910c0633</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2024 03:31:54 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/nain37e5x75yk0yd6oni3lmi.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts Robbie and Charles discuss various aspects of coding and web development with special guest, experienced front-end Engineer, Amera White. She shares her personal journey of transitioning from a career in aviation to the tech sector and the experiences that deepened her passion for web accessibility. </p>
<p>
They highlight the challenges for neurodivergent individuals on the web and discuss how to improve this through better design and coding practices, emphasizing the importance of personalization and empathy in development. The discussions also include a walkthrough on various coding topics such as the use of TypeScript, Tailwind CSS, dealing with neurodivergent audiences and the benefits of using accessible web development strategies.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:19] - Getting to Know the Guest: Amera White</li>
 <li>[01:05] - Whiskey Tasting: Teeling Single Grain</li>
  <li>[04:31] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion</li>
  <li>[07:00] - Hot Takes: Tech Edition</li>
  <li>[15:01] - Understanding Neurodivergence</li>
  <li>[18:27] - Improving Website Accessibility for Neurodivergent Users</li>
  <li>[28:02] - The Power of Netflix and Platform Accessibility</li>
  <li>[28:23] - The Struggles of Web Accessibility</li>
  <li>[29:16] - The Importance of Incorporating Accessibility in the Process</li>
  <li>[30:06] - The Challenges of Corporate Responsibility</li>
  <li>[30:37] - The Impact of Lawsuits and Regulations on Web Accessibility</li>
  <li>[31:19] - The Benefits of Accessibility for Everyone</li>
  <li>[31:54] - The Disconnect Between Business and Employee Experience</li>
  <li>[32:09] - The Importance of Teaching Accessibility Early</li>
  <li>[32:49] - The Role of SEO in Promoting Accessibility</li>
  <li>[33:21] - The Impact of AI on Accessibility</li>
  <li>[38:49] - The Challenges and Fun of Working in TSA</li>
  <li>[48:06] - The Transition from TSA to Coding</li>
  <li>[55:51] - The Importance of Beyoncé in Web Design</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/AmeraWhite2" target="_blank">Amera White Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amerawhite/" target="_blank">Amera White LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/beyonc%C3%A9s-internet/jbloclglibpalcdiphckboobpjoiebkp" target="_blank">Beyoncé's Internet</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Inclusive Experiences in React Applications: Championing Neurodivergent Accessibility w/ Amera White</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nain37e5x75yk0yd6oni3lmi/vs355vmpyvqyrboaimhlauov.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3471</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>133</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts Robbie and Charles discuss various aspects of coding and web development with special guest, experienced front-end Engineer, Amera White. She shares her personal journey of transitioning from a career in aviation to the tech sector and the experiences that deepened her passion for web accessibility. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They highlight the challenges for neurodivergent individuals on the web and discuss how to improve this through better design and coding practices, emphasizing the importance of personalization and empathy in development. The discussions also include a walkthrough on various coding topics such as the use of TypeScript, Tailwind CSS, dealing with neurodivergent audiences and the benefits of using accessible web development strategies.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:19] - Getting to Know the Guest: Amera White&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:05] - Whiskey Tasting: Teeling Single Grain&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:31] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Hot Takes: Tech Edition&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:01] - Understanding Neurodivergence&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:27] - Improving Website Accessibility for Neurodivergent Users&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:02] - The Power of Netflix and Platform Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:23] - The Struggles of Web Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:16] - The Importance of Incorporating Accessibility in the Process&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:06] - The Challenges of Corporate Responsibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:37] - The Impact of Lawsuits and Regulations on Web Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:19] - The Benefits of Accessibility for Everyone&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:54] - The Disconnect Between Business and Employee Experience&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:09] - The Importance of Teaching Accessibility Early&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:49] - The Role of SEO in Promoting Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:21] - The Impact of AI on Accessibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:49] - The Challenges and Fun of Working in TSA&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:06] - The Transition from TSA to Coding&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:51] - The Importance of Beyoncé in Web Design&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/AmeraWhite2&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amera White Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/amerawhite/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amera White LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/beyonc%C3%A9s-internet/jbloclglibpalcdiphckboobpjoiebkp&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beyoncé&#39;s Internet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tc5anw8calufmtyp38omu98t/thumbnail-tc5anw8calufmtyp38omu98t.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/tc5anw8calufmtyp38omu98t/thumbnail-tc5anw8calufmtyp38omu98t.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nain37e5x75yk0yd6oni3lmi/em817mqa5c8c3y5fd84w7ba1/transcoded-01KECKCZW6C7SAD5Q9RYYZ95NE-01KECKCZW6QDDYDCYEKSAD0SP3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Next.js&#39;s Speed vs. RedwoodJS&#39;s Strength: The Web Development Drama You Can&#39;t Ignore</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they delve into a wide variety of topics on their podcast, Whiskey Web and Whatnot. This episode features a detailed tasting of the Booker&#39;s Small Batch, Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey – the Storyteller Batch. The hosts talk in-depth about the bourbon, its packaging, and flavors. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie and Charles go on to share their thoughts on the intricacies of web development, discussing the pros and cons of latest web frameworks. Additionally, they dive into personal anecdotes, talking about the winter and the joys of playing video games. Tune in for an engaging blend of whiskey sipping, tech talk, and casual banter.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:07] - Unboxing and Introduction to Booker&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:51] - Tasting and Reviewing the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - Diving into Personal Stories and Jokes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:28] - Analyzing the Whiskey&#39;s Aroma and Flavor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:37] - Continuing the Whiskey Tasting and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:10] - Final Thoughts and Rating of the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:02] - Transitioning to Tech Talk: Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:08] - Discussing Syntax Swag and Whiskey Web Merch&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:47] - Debate on React and Next.js&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:12] - Exploring Redwood JS and Django&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:39] - Discussing Web Development Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:09] - Exploring Astro and HTMX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:32] - Debate on JSON and JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:19] - The Evolution of Web Design&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:10] - The Whiskey Experiment&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:27] - Snowy Adventures and Commuting Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - The Quest for the Perfect Electric Car&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:23] - The Joys and Pains of Lawn Mowing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:01] - TV Shows, Video Games, and Time Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:04] - Wrapping Up with Netflix and Barbie&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bookersbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Booker&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedwoodJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTMX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0a7ca0e4-ccab-409e-acb3-422c3681b5d0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ikd9gjolekrazwdhhr7elr1t.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they delve into a wide variety of topics on their podcast, Whiskey Web and Whatnot. This episode features a detailed tasting of the Booker's Small Batch, Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey – the Storyteller Batch. The hosts talk in-depth about the bourbon, its packaging, and flavors. </p>
<p>
Robbie and Charles go on to share their thoughts on the intricacies of web development, discussing the pros and cons of latest web frameworks. Additionally, they dive into personal anecdotes, talking about the winter and the joys of playing video games. Tune in for an engaging blend of whiskey sipping, tech talk, and casual banter.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:07] - Unboxing and Introduction to Booker's Bourbon</li>
 <li>[01:51] - Tasting and Reviewing the Whiskey</li>
 <li>[03:06] - Diving into Personal Stories and Jokes</li>
 <li>[03:28] - Analyzing the Whiskey's Aroma and Flavor</li>
  <li>[04:37] - Continuing the Whiskey Tasting and Discussion</li>
  <li>[07:10] - Final Thoughts and Rating of the Whiskey</li>
  <li>[13:02] - Transitioning to Tech Talk: Web Development</li>
  <li>[13:08] - Discussing Syntax Swag and Whiskey Web Merch</li>
  <li>[15:47] - Debate on React and Next.js</li>
  <li>[26:12] - Exploring Redwood JS and Django</li>
  <li>[34:39] - Discussing Web Development Frameworks</li>
  <li>[35:09] - Exploring Astro and HTMX</li>
  <li>[36:32] - Debate on JSON and JavaScript</li>
  <li>[38:19] - The Evolution of Web Design</li>
  <li>[39:10] - The Whiskey Experiment</li>
  <li>[40:27] - Snowy Adventures and Commuting Challenges</li>
  <li>[42:59] - The Quest for the Perfect Electric Car</li>
  <li>[51:23] - The Joys and Pains of Lawn Mowing</li>
  <li>[53:01] - TV Shows, Video Games, and Time Management</li>
  <li>[01:01:04] - Wrapping Up with Netflix and Barbie</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.bookersbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Booker's Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" target="_blank">RedwoodJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">HTMX</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Next.js&#39;s Speed vs. RedwoodJS&#39;s Strength: The Web Development Drama You Can&#39;t Ignore</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ikd9gjolekrazwdhhr7elr1t/bcplzxnuj4s4fne0h750cbc7.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3921</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>132</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they delve into a wide variety of topics on their podcast, Whiskey Web and Whatnot. This episode features a detailed tasting of the Booker&#39;s Small Batch, Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey – the Storyteller Batch. The hosts talk in-depth about the bourbon, its packaging, and flavors. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie and Charles go on to share their thoughts on the intricacies of web development, discussing the pros and cons of latest web frameworks. Additionally, they dive into personal anecdotes, talking about the winter and the joys of playing video games. Tune in for an engaging blend of whiskey sipping, tech talk, and casual banter.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:07] - Unboxing and Introduction to Booker&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:51] - Tasting and Reviewing the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - Diving into Personal Stories and Jokes&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:28] - Analyzing the Whiskey&#39;s Aroma and Flavor&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:37] - Continuing the Whiskey Tasting and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:10] - Final Thoughts and Rating of the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:02] - Transitioning to Tech Talk: Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:08] - Discussing Syntax Swag and Whiskey Web Merch&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:47] - Debate on React and Next.js&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:12] - Exploring Redwood JS and Django&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:39] - Discussing Web Development Frameworks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:09] - Exploring Astro and HTMX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:32] - Debate on JSON and JavaScript&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:19] - The Evolution of Web Design&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:10] - The Whiskey Experiment&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:27] - Snowy Adventures and Commuting Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - The Quest for the Perfect Electric Car&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:23] - The Joys and Pains of Lawn Mowing&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:01] - TV Shows, Video Games, and Time Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:04] - Wrapping Up with Netflix and Barbie&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bookersbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Booker&#39;s Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedwoodJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTMX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ikd9gjolekrazwdhhr7elr1t/xww6iax2a6ip2irf5ns016ad/transcoded-01KECKD5D3TKEBV94YC4K1VGVX-01KECKD5D3Z1HQMM82BBXDCQST_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Chris Coyier on Embracing Technology and the Future of Web Development</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Hosts Robbie Wagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome special guest, Chris Coyier the co-founder of CodePen and an avid web enthusiast, to share his insights on the latest trends and happenings in the tech world. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Pondering over the pros and cons of GitHub desktop, discussing React&#39;s influence on teams and efficiency, grappling with the hot topics around CSS and Tailwind, and airing their thoughts on Apple&#39;s latest Vision Pro, the conversation bounces around delightfully. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
All along, they’re savoring a pour from Barrell Craft Spirits and enjoying the occasional detour into pop culture, fitness, and more. Join them as they navigate through this tech-infused whirlwind with a dash of web nostalgia.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Discussing Movies and Pop Culture&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:32] - Introducing the Guest: Chris Coyier&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:05] - Chris&#39;s Journey with CodePen&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:56] - Chris&#39;s Other Projects and Interests&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:13] - Whiskey Tasting Begins&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:57] - Discussing the Whiskey: Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:39] - Diving into Pop Culture: Movies and Celebrities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:02] - Back to Whiskey: Rating the Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:59] - Discussing Tech and Coding&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:58] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:27] - Discussing the Evolution of Package Managers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:16] - Exploring the Transition from Node to Bun&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:33] - The Impact of Vite on Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:46] - The Quirks of Tech Terminology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:24] - The Shift from Global to Personalized Package Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:41] - The Influence of Microsoft in the Tech World&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:04] - The Evolution of Web Development and the Role of Abstractions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:12] - The Future of Web Development: AR, VR, and AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:27] - The Impact of Tech on Everyday Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:43] - The Future of CodePen and the Tech Industry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b711b5c7-b7fa-4dc1-87d8-0d22f6c5529a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fkmefodn7zhxov2nr0gjnbib.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hosts Robbie Wagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome special guest, Chris Coyier the co-founder of CodePen and an avid web enthusiast, to share his insights on the latest trends and happenings in the tech world. </p>
<p>
Pondering over the pros and cons of GitHub desktop, discussing React's influence on teams and efficiency, grappling with the hot topics around CSS and Tailwind, and airing their thoughts on Apple's latest Vision Pro, the conversation bounces around delightfully. </p>
<p>
All along, they’re savoring a pour from Barrell Craft Spirits and enjoying the occasional detour into pop culture, fitness, and more. Join them as they navigate through this tech-infused whirlwind with a dash of web nostalgia.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:48] - Discussing Movies and Pop Culture</li>
 <li>[02:32] - Introducing the Guest: Chris Coyier</li>
 <li>[03:05] - Chris's Journey with CodePen</li>
 <li>[03:56] - Chris's Other Projects and Interests</li>
 <li>[07:13] - Whiskey Tasting Begins</li>
 <li>[07:57] - Discussing the Whiskey: Barrel Bourbon</li>
  <li>[09:39] - Diving into Pop Culture: Movies and Celebrities</li>
  <li>[11:02] - Back to Whiskey: Rating the Barrel Bourbon</li>
  <li>[11:59] - Discussing Tech and Coding</li>
  <li>[25:58] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates</li>
  <li>[32:27] - Discussing the Evolution of Package Managers</li>
  <li>[33:16] - Exploring the Transition from Node to Bun</li>
  <li>[34:33] - The Impact of Vite on Development</li>
  <li>[34:46] - The Quirks of Tech Terminology</li>
  <li>[36:24] - The Shift from Global to Personalized Package Management</li>
  <li>[36:41] - The Influence of Microsoft in the Tech World</li>
  <li>[39:04] - The Evolution of Web Development and the Role of Abstractions</li>
  <li>[57:12] - The Future of Web Development: AR, VR, and AI</li>
  <li>[01:03:27] - The Impact of Tech on Everyday Life</li>
  <li>[01:03:43] - The Future of CodePen and the Tech Industry</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/chriscoyier" target="_blank">Chris Coyier Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">CodePen</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Chris Coyier on Embracing Technology and the Future of Web Development</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fkmefodn7zhxov2nr0gjnbib/bifnnich9dttxxyado0gta3r.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3988</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>131</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Hosts Robbie Wagner and Charles William Carpenter III welcome special guest, Chris Coyier the co-founder of CodePen and an avid web enthusiast, to share his insights on the latest trends and happenings in the tech world. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Pondering over the pros and cons of GitHub desktop, discussing React&#39;s influence on teams and efficiency, grappling with the hot topics around CSS and Tailwind, and airing their thoughts on Apple&#39;s latest Vision Pro, the conversation bounces around delightfully. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
All along, they’re savoring a pour from Barrell Craft Spirits and enjoying the occasional detour into pop culture, fitness, and more. Join them as they navigate through this tech-infused whirlwind with a dash of web nostalgia.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Discussing Movies and Pop Culture&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:32] - Introducing the Guest: Chris Coyier&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:05] - Chris&#39;s Journey with CodePen&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:56] - Chris&#39;s Other Projects and Interests&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:13] - Whiskey Tasting Begins&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:57] - Discussing the Whiskey: Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:39] - Diving into Pop Culture: Movies and Celebrities&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:02] - Back to Whiskey: Rating the Barrel Bourbon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:59] - Discussing Tech and Coding&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:58] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:27] - Discussing the Evolution of Package Managers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:16] - Exploring the Transition from Node to Bun&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:33] - The Impact of Vite on Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:46] - The Quirks of Tech Terminology&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:24] - The Shift from Global to Personalized Package Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:41] - The Influence of Microsoft in the Tech World&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:04] - The Evolution of Web Development and the Role of Abstractions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:12] - The Future of Web Development: AR, VR, and AI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:27] - The Impact of Tech on Everyday Life&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:03:43] - The Future of CodePen and the Tech Industry&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chriscoyier&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/hp7cnqdepv1vlc1vfkkwcuc8/thumbnail-hp7cnqdepv1vlc1vfkkwcuc8.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/hp7cnqdepv1vlc1vfkkwcuc8/thumbnail-hp7cnqdepv1vlc1vfkkwcuc8.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fkmefodn7zhxov2nr0gjnbib/a20lumor8h1u59gbrv2fpbcb/transcoded-01KECKE34FK1DAGJCMTHXSQWTD-01KECKE34FV5QYRVD3EMFWTPD7_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Upgrade Your Lifestyle: From the Ballmer Peak to High Tech Toilet Seats</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss a variety of topics. They initially discuss a controversial tier list video from Theo. They criticize Theo&#39;s technology ranking, particularly his negative view of Ember and his endorsement of React and other frameworks. They also highlight the subjective nature of technology preference and suggest that Theo&#39;s tier list is more a reflection of his personal biases than an objective assessment of the tools&#39; merits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They move on to discussing Astro, a new static site builder they&#39;ve been using. They praise Astro for its easy conversion process, quick build times, and the fact that it uses semantic HTML by default. They express their enthusiasm for Astro and mention how they are using it for their own websites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Lastly, Chuck and Robbie deviate from tech talk and share about their Christmas experiences, with Chuck being especially thrilled about receiving a high-end Toto Washlet (bidet toilet seat) as a present. They end their conversation with a humorous debate about the merits of high-end toilet seats, with Robbie stating that the bidet&#39;s functions are surprisingly beneficial and make each bathroom visit enjoyable.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:29] - Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore Spirit Rye Cask Strength&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:44] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:53] - Theo&#39;s Controversial Tech Tier List&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:09] - The Balmer Peak: Is it Real?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:05] - Astro Framework Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:58] - Discussing Fashion and Sponsorships&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:49] - Exploring the Benefits of Astro&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - Debating the Merits of Pages Router vs App Router&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:01] - The Influence of Ember on Modern Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:15] - The Challenges of Remote Work and Office Politics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:03] - Deep Dive into Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:10] - The Joys and Challenges of Christmas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:50] - The Luxury of High-End Toilet Seats&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totousa.com/washlet&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Toto Washlet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a04ac479-2e46-4ca1-b4bb-c97090c25fbc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rcnkha0ngb5ugqwk659okpo9.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss a variety of topics. They initially discuss a controversial tier list video from Theo. They criticize Theo's technology ranking, particularly his negative view of Ember and his endorsement of React and other frameworks. They also highlight the subjective nature of technology preference and suggest that Theo's tier list is more a reflection of his personal biases than an objective assessment of the tools' merits.</p>
<p>
They move on to discussing Astro, a new static site builder they've been using. They praise Astro for its easy conversion process, quick build times, and the fact that it uses semantic HTML by default. They express their enthusiasm for Astro and mention how they are using it for their own websites.</p>
<p>
Lastly, Chuck and Robbie deviate from tech talk and share about their Christmas experiences, with Chuck being especially thrilled about receiving a high-end Toto Washlet (bidet toilet seat) as a present. They end their conversation with a humorous debate about the merits of high-end toilet seats, with Robbie stating that the bidet's functions are surprisingly beneficial and make each bathroom visit enjoyable.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:29] - Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore Spirit Rye Cask Strength</li>
 <li>[04:44] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion</li>
 <li>[08:53] - Theo's Controversial Tech Tier List</li>
 <li>[25:09] - The Balmer Peak: Is it Real?</li>
  <li>[31:05] - Astro Framework Discussion</li>
  <li>[32:58] - Discussing Fashion and Sponsorships</li>
  <li>[33:49] - Exploring the Benefits of Astro</li>
  <li>[34:37] - Debating the Merits of Pages Router vs App Router</li>
  <li>[36:01] - The Influence of Ember on Modern Web Development</li>
  <li>[40:15] - The Challenges of Remote Work and Office Politics</li>
  <li>[45:03] - Deep Dive into Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism</li>
  <li>[50:10] - The Joys and Challenges of Christmas</li>
  <li>[58:50] - The Luxury of High-End Toilet Seats</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">EmberJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totousa.com/washlet" target="_blank">Toto Washlet</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Upgrade Your Lifestyle: From the Ballmer Peak to High Tech Toilet Seats</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rcnkha0ngb5ugqwk659okpo9/yl1sihoondm9hgmpg223owgq.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3803</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>130</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss a variety of topics. They initially discuss a controversial tier list video from Theo. They criticize Theo&#39;s technology ranking, particularly his negative view of Ember and his endorsement of React and other frameworks. They also highlight the subjective nature of technology preference and suggest that Theo&#39;s tier list is more a reflection of his personal biases than an objective assessment of the tools&#39; merits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
They move on to discussing Astro, a new static site builder they&#39;ve been using. They praise Astro for its easy conversion process, quick build times, and the fact that it uses semantic HTML by default. They express their enthusiasm for Astro and mention how they are using it for their own websites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Lastly, Chuck and Robbie deviate from tech talk and share about their Christmas experiences, with Chuck being especially thrilled about receiving a high-end Toto Washlet (bidet toilet seat) as a present. They end their conversation with a humorous debate about the merits of high-end toilet seats, with Robbie stating that the bidet&#39;s functions are surprisingly beneficial and make each bathroom visit enjoyable.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:29] - Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore Spirit Rye Cask Strength&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:44] - Whiskey Rating and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:53] - Theo&#39;s Controversial Tech Tier List&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:09] - The Balmer Peak: Is it Real?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:05] - Astro Framework Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:58] - Discussing Fashion and Sponsorships&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:49] - Exploring the Benefits of Astro&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - Debating the Merits of Pages Router vs App Router&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:01] - The Influence of Ember on Modern Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:15] - The Challenges of Remote Work and Office Politics&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:03] - Deep Dive into Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:10] - The Joys and Challenges of Christmas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:50] - The Luxury of High-End Toilet Seats&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totousa.com/washlet&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Toto Washlet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mhqh16z2nlpkrmez3jsy7ozy/thumbnail-mhqh16z2nlpkrmez3jsy7ozy.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/mhqh16z2nlpkrmez3jsy7ozy/thumbnail-mhqh16z2nlpkrmez3jsy7ozy.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rcnkha0ngb5ugqwk659okpo9/etd96rz72itbw5j4dpxjmlfv/transcoded-01KECKD1GJV8BV4H71BKVXSV67-01KECKD1GJ84784Z8BG8VMZBHS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/rcnkha0ngb5ugqwk659okpo9.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>A Deep Dive into Managed DNS with Jeff Cronstrom</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they welcome Jeff Cronstrom, a DNS specialist with experience dating back to the 90s and the founder of CloudfloorDNS. In this episode, they dig into the ins and outs of managed DNS, the benefits it provides, and the distinguishing features of CloudfloorDNS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts also engage in lively discussions about technology, touching on various topics such as PHP, Python, DevOps, and the role of DNS in web development. Alongside the tech talk, the episode features a whiskey tasting session with Fort Hamilton rye whiskey.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:45] - Whiskey Tasting and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:00] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[27:07] - Deep Dive into CloudFloorDNS&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[31:41] - Web Application Firewall and Cloudflare&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:02] - Domain Registrations and DNS&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:27] - Google&#39;s Shift from Domain Registration&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[33:53] - Roles in Tech: Network Engineer, System Administrator, and More&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[35:32] - The Rise of DevOps and DevSecOps&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:28] - The Importance of Security in Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:59] - Patch Tuesdays and Software Updates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:05] - The Syntax Podcast and Sentry.io&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:49] - The Microsoft Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - Boating and Fishing Adventures&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:50] - The Phoenix Lights Mystery&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:11] - Homemade Drink Smoker and Carpentry Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:02] - The Simulation Theory and Solar Flares&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:30] - Choose Your Own Adventure Website Idea&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:30] - Closing Remarks and CloudfloorDNS Plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jeffpcma&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cronstrom Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffcronstrom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cronstrom LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudfloordns.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CloudfloorDNS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">94aa680d-49cb-42f4-91ff-c09d3b6b6203</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lntx80ck7x6mvxq28l3e14ak.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they welcome Jeff Cronstrom, a DNS specialist with experience dating back to the 90s and the founder of CloudfloorDNS. In this episode, they dig into the ins and outs of managed DNS, the benefits it provides, and the distinguishing features of CloudfloorDNS.</p>
<p>
The hosts also engage in lively discussions about technology, touching on various topics such as PHP, Python, DevOps, and the role of DNS in web development. Alongside the tech talk, the episode features a whiskey tasting session with Fort Hamilton rye whiskey.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:45] - Whiskey Tasting and Discussion</li>
 <li>[11:00] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics</li>
 <li>[27:07] - Deep Dive into CloudFloorDNS</li>
 <li>[31:41] - Web Application Firewall and Cloudflare</li>
 <li>[32:02] - Domain Registrations and DNS</li>
 <li>[32:27] - Google's Shift from Domain Registration</li>
 <li>[33:53] - Roles in Tech: Network Engineer, System Administrator, and More</li>
 <li>[35:32] - The Rise of DevOps and DevSecOps</li>
  <li>[36:28] - The Importance of Security in Development</li>
  <li>[36:59] - Patch Tuesdays and Software Updates</li>
  <li>[39:05] - The Syntax Podcast and Sentry.io</li>
  <li>[39:49] - The Microsoft Debate</li>
  <li>[42:59] - Boating and Fishing Adventures</li>
  <li>[48:50] - The Phoenix Lights Mystery</li>
  <li>[52:11] - Homemade Drink Smoker and Carpentry Skills</li>
  <li>[54:02] - The Simulation Theory and Solar Flares</li>
  <li>[53:30] - Choose Your Own Adventure Website Idea</li>
  <li>[55:30] - Closing Remarks and CloudfloorDNS Plug</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jeffpcma" target="_blank">Jeff Cronstrom Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffcronstrom/" target="_blank">Jeff Cronstrom LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cloudfloordns.com/" target="_blank">CloudfloorDNS</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong>
Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
<a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A Deep Dive into Managed DNS with Jeff Cronstrom</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lntx80ck7x6mvxq28l3e14ak/ytcnd29zf39n2nznb75u73br.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3397</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>129</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III as they welcome Jeff Cronstrom, a DNS specialist with experience dating back to the 90s and the founder of CloudfloorDNS. In this episode, they dig into the ins and outs of managed DNS, the benefits it provides, and the distinguishing features of CloudfloorDNS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The hosts also engage in lively discussions about technology, touching on various topics such as PHP, Python, DevOps, and the role of DNS in web development. Alongside the tech talk, the episode features a whiskey tasting session with Fort Hamilton rye whiskey.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:45] - Whiskey Tasting and Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:00] - Hot Takes on Tech Topics&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[27:07] - Deep Dive into CloudFloorDNS&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[31:41] - Web Application Firewall and Cloudflare&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:02] - Domain Registrations and DNS&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:27] - Google&#39;s Shift from Domain Registration&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[33:53] - Roles in Tech: Network Engineer, System Administrator, and More&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[35:32] - The Rise of DevOps and DevSecOps&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:28] - The Importance of Security in Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:59] - Patch Tuesdays and Software Updates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:05] - The Syntax Podcast and Sentry.io&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:49] - The Microsoft Debate&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - Boating and Fishing Adventures&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:50] - The Phoenix Lights Mystery&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:11] - Homemade Drink Smoker and Carpentry Skills&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:02] - The Simulation Theory and Solar Flares&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:30] - Choose Your Own Adventure Website Idea&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:30] - Closing Remarks and CloudfloorDNS Plug&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jeffpcma&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cronstrom Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffcronstrom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeff Cronstrom LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudfloordns.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CloudfloorDNS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - The Reality of Being a CEO&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:39] - The Mystery of HTMX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:16] - Whiskey Tasting: Sweetens Cove&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - The Science of Whiskey Aging&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:21] - The Curious Case of Soft Water&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:42] - Pop Culture References and Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:33] - Whiskey Rating and Review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:52] - Tech Talk: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:23] - The Future of OpenAI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:47] - Social Media Algorithms and Engagement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:12] - Ubuntu Server and Daily Use Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:08] - Exploring Framework Laptops and Modular Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:52] - The Linux User Experience: A Developer&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:32] - The Pros and Cons of Arch Linux&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:31] - The Future of Linux and the Framework Laptop&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:08] - The Struggles of App Development on Ubuntu&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:27] - The Rise of New JavaScript Runtimes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:45] - Exploring Biome: A New Web API Framework&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:39] - The Future of Shepherd: A Library for Web APIs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:19] - Christmas Shopping Habits and Affiliate Programs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a86d0697-2b10-4583-b7e0-58f26e11ec8b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xkb1otof955itgotf1brmkb1.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of 'Whiskey, Web, and Whatnot', hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III debate podcast names, discuss the feasibility of creating a company, and share insights on tech projects like Biome and Shepherd. They also talk about the importance of leveraging built-in features in tech systems, their take on tech wars, thoughts about the future of JavaScript, and more. Accompanying their tech-related discussions are whiskey tasting notes on Sweetens Cove, Tennessee Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:37] - The Reality of Being a CEO</li>
 <li>[01:39] - The Mystery of HTMX</li>
  <li>[02:16] - Whiskey Tasting: Sweetens Cove</li>
  <li>[03:06] - The Science of Whiskey Aging</li>
  <li>[03:21] - The Curious Case of Soft Water</li>
  <li>[03:42] - Pop Culture References and Whiskey</li>
  <li>[07:33] - Whiskey Rating and Review</li>
  <li>[15:52] - Tech Talk: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement</li>
  <li>[20:23] - The Future of OpenAI</li>
  <li>[26:47] - Social Media Algorithms and Engagement</li>
  <li>[29:12] - Ubuntu Server and Daily Use Challenges</li>
  <li>[30:08] - Exploring Framework Laptops and Modular Tech</li>
  <li>[30:52] - The Linux User Experience: A Developer's Perspective</li>
  <li>[32:32] - The Pros and Cons of Arch Linux</li>
  <li>[33:31] - The Future of Linux and the Framework Laptop</li>
  <li>[34:08] - The Struggles of App Development on Ubuntu</li>
  <li>[36:27] - The Rise of New JavaScript Runtimes</li>
  <li>[37:45] - Exploring Biome: A New Web API Framework</li>
  <li>[49:39] - The Future of Shepherd: A Library for Web APIs</li>
  <li>[55:19] - Christmas Shopping Habits and Affiliate Programs</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - The Reality of Being a CEO&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:39] - The Mystery of HTMX&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:16] - Whiskey Tasting: Sweetens Cove&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:06] - The Science of Whiskey Aging&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:21] - The Curious Case of Soft Water&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:42] - Pop Culture References and Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:33] - Whiskey Rating and Review&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:52] - Tech Talk: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:23] - The Future of OpenAI&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:47] - Social Media Algorithms and Engagement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:12] - Ubuntu Server and Daily Use Challenges&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:08] - Exploring Framework Laptops and Modular Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:52] - The Linux User Experience: A Developer&#39;s Perspective&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:32] - The Pros and Cons of Arch Linux&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:31] - The Future of Linux and the Framework Laptop&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:08] - The Struggles of App Development on Ubuntu&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:27] - The Rise of New JavaScript Runtimes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:45] - Exploring Biome: A New Web API Framework&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:39] - The Future of Shepherd: A Library for Web APIs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:19] - Christmas Shopping Habits and Affiliate Programs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xkb1otof955itgotf1brmkb1/vubjv5sukw39nfe6kkc9px2v/transcoded-01KECKD543SV2NJ4078R8X4ZYX-01KECKD543KY4SEZMABDB8N1DA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Monthly Malarkey: JavaScript Modules, HTML, and Ryan Reynolds</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III dive into their experiences with the Astro framework and discuss the challenges with JavaScript module types. They also share insights on managing work life around their families and house pets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The casual conversation continues with a discussion on TV series like &#39;The Last of Us&#39;, &#39;The Changeling&#39;, &#39;Wednesday&#39;, and &#39;Black Bird&#39;, as well as an interesting back and forth about international and domestic flight experiences. They sign off with some conjecture about the potential for AI, promising a more detailed conversation about this in the next episode.
 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Discussing Podcast Popularity and Listener Appreciation&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:39] - Exploring the Challenges of Explaining Podcasts to Older Generations&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:25] - Whiskey Tasting Session: Never Sink Spirits Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:27] - Diving into the Complexities of JavaScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:44] - Exploring the Potential of Astro for Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:58] - The Power of Tailwind in Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:24] - Offering Web Development Help to Local Fire Department&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:44] - Discussing the Importance of SEO for Podcast Visibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:23] - The Economics of Database Usage&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:24] - The Business Model of Vercel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:40] - The Art of Infiltration and Persuasion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - The Challenges of Switching to Vercel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:24] - The Entertainment Roundup&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:46] - The Dark Side of the American Healthcare System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:29] - The Joys and Challenges of Hosting Christmas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:14] - The Pros and Cons of Moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:00:34] - The Injustice of Airline Bailouts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0e9cba47-9b02-4e91-8179-53dd72ebbdf3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/gogjnvgzikh8bpemczkl68ia.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III dive into their experiences with the Astro framework and discuss the challenges with JavaScript module types. They also share insights on managing work life around their families and house pets.</p>
<p>
The casual conversation continues with a discussion on TV series like 'The Last of Us', 'The Changeling', 'Wednesday', and 'Black Bird', as well as an interesting back and forth about international and domestic flight experiences. They sign off with some conjecture about the potential for AI, promising a more detailed conversation about this in the next episode.
 </p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:11] - Discussing Podcast Popularity and Listener Appreciation</li>
 <li>[01:39] - Exploring the Challenges of Explaining Podcasts to Older Generations</li>
 <li>[02:25] - Whiskey Tasting Session: Never Sink Spirits Bourbon Whiskey</li>
 <li>[11:27] - Diving into the Complexities of JavaScript Modules</li>
 <li>[14:44] - Exploring the Potential of Astro for Web Development</li>
  <li>[25:58] - The Power of Tailwind in Web Development</li>
  <li>[26:24] - Offering Web Development Help to Local Fire Department</li>
  <li>[28:44] - Discussing the Importance of SEO for Podcast Visibility</li>
  <li>[30:23] - The Economics of Database Usage</li>
  <li>[31:24] - The Business Model of Vercel</li>
  <li>[32:40] - The Art of Infiltration and Persuasion</li>
  <li>[34:20] - The Challenges of Switching to Vercel</li>
  <li>[35:24] - The Entertainment Roundup</li>
  <li>[35:46] - The Dark Side of the American Healthcare System</li>
  <li>[47:29] - The Joys and Challenges of Hosting Christmas</li>
  <li>[54:14] - The Pros and Cons of Moving to Italy</li>
  <li>[01:00:34] - The Injustice of Airline Bailouts</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Promos</strong></p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Monthly Malarkey: JavaScript Modules, HTML, and Ryan Reynolds</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gogjnvgzikh8bpemczkl68ia/rkje9kbu9o0w9eqci834bm2p.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3795</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>127</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III dive into their experiences with the Astro framework and discuss the challenges with JavaScript module types. They also share insights on managing work life around their families and house pets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The casual conversation continues with a discussion on TV series like &#39;The Last of Us&#39;, &#39;The Changeling&#39;, &#39;Wednesday&#39;, and &#39;Black Bird&#39;, as well as an interesting back and forth about international and domestic flight experiences. They sign off with some conjecture about the potential for AI, promising a more detailed conversation about this in the next episode.
 &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Discussing Podcast Popularity and Listener Appreciation&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:39] - Exploring the Challenges of Explaining Podcasts to Older Generations&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:25] - Whiskey Tasting Session: Never Sink Spirits Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:27] - Diving into the Complexities of JavaScript Modules&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:44] - Exploring the Potential of Astro for Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:58] - The Power of Tailwind in Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:24] - Offering Web Development Help to Local Fire Department&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:44] - Discussing the Importance of SEO for Podcast Visibility&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:23] - The Economics of Database Usage&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:24] - The Business Model of Vercel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:40] - The Art of Infiltration and Persuasion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - The Challenges of Switching to Vercel&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:24] - The Entertainment Roundup&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:46] - The Dark Side of the American Healthcare System&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:29] - The Joys and Challenges of Hosting Christmas&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:14] - The Pros and Cons of Moving to Italy&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:00:34] - The Injustice of Airline Bailouts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bscgg9ve2s8jolqvts63g0y6/thumbnail-bscgg9ve2s8jolqvts63g0y6.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bscgg9ve2s8jolqvts63g0y6/thumbnail-bscgg9ve2s8jolqvts63g0y6.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gogjnvgzikh8bpemczkl68ia/nw6b7sckvog0oq05ga42ct4p/transcoded-01KECKE2G2BTJV2MCQBXR93EJ0-01KECKE2G2H70CH4SMKB5YMT7Q_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/gogjnvgzikh8bpemczkl68ia.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Bearded Talks on Beardless Hosts: VSCode Sidebars, AI, and GraphQL with Kelly Vaughn</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite guest Kelly Vaughn for a casual discussion over a glass of Bardstown Fusion bourbon. The conversation meanders around various topics including podcasting, the concept of artificial intelligence, their favorite Taylor Swift songs, and owning sports cars. Kelly also talks about keynoting the THAT Conference in Texas and shares a preview of her presentation. Keep listening for their hot takes on tech Twitter fights and some humorous discussions!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:05] - Introduction and Hosts&#39; Banter&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Guest Introduction and Previous Episode Recap&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:00] - Whiskey Tasting: Bardstown Bourbon Company Fusion Series&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:11] - Whiskey Tasting: Flavor Notes and Ratings&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:23] - Discussion on Whiskey Accessories and Sponsorships&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:32] - Hot Takes: AI and Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:49] - Hot Takes: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:44] - Cincinnati Chili Debate and Closing Remarks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:08] - A Tribute to Skyline Chili Employee&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - Fast Food Preferences and Discussions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:32] - Fast Food and Road Trips&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:14] - Co-hosts Banter and Jokes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:05] - Upcoming Conference and Keynote Preparation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:55] - Car Enthusiast Conversations&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:05] - Taylor Swift Fan Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:15] - Work-Life Balance in Software Engineering&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:02:43] - Closing Remarks and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spot AI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">2cafaf12-465d-487d-bb7a-8911defcd8e8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/y5m0x103ubsz29hrycx3m9zm.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite guest Kelly Vaughn for a casual discussion over a glass of Bardstown Fusion bourbon. The conversation meanders around various topics including podcasting, the concept of artificial intelligence, their favorite Taylor Swift songs, and owning sports cars. Kelly also talks about keynoting the THAT Conference in Texas and shares a preview of her presentation. Keep listening for their hot takes on tech Twitter fights and some humorous discussions!
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:05] - Introduction and Hosts' Banter</li>
 <li>[00:48] - Guest Introduction and Previous Episode Recap</li>
 <li>[02:00] - Whiskey Tasting: Bardstown Bourbon Company Fusion Series</li>
 <li>[04:11] - Whiskey Tasting: Flavor Notes and Ratings</li>
  <li>[08:23] - Discussion on Whiskey Accessories and Sponsorships</li>
  <li>[16:32] - Hot Takes: AI and Tech Debates</li>
  <li>[22:49] - Hot Takes: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement</li>
  <li>[31:44] - Cincinnati Chili Debate and Closing Remarks</li>
  <li>[33:08] - A Tribute to Skyline Chili Employee</li>
  <li>[34:20] - Fast Food Preferences and Discussions</li>
  <li>[35:32] - Fast Food and Road Trips</li>
  <li>[36:14] - Co-hosts Banter and Jokes</li>
  <li>[37:05] - Upcoming Conference and Keynote Preparation</li>
  <li>[39:55] - Car Enthusiast Conversations</li>
  <li>[57:05] - Taylor Swift Fan Discussion</li>
  <li>[01:01:15] - Work-Life Balance in Software Engineering</li>
  <li>[01:02:43] - Closing Remarks and Future Plans</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/kvlly" target="_blank">Kelly Vaughn Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/" target="_blank">Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.spot.ai/" target="_blank">Spot AI</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Promos</strong>
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch </p>
<p>Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Bearded Talks on Beardless Hosts: VSCode Sidebars, AI, and GraphQL with Kelly Vaughn</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/y5m0x103ubsz29hrycx3m9zm/eh2kns2915i0cnmd7q1jo2lm.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3867</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>126</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite guest Kelly Vaughn for a casual discussion over a glass of Bardstown Fusion bourbon. The conversation meanders around various topics including podcasting, the concept of artificial intelligence, their favorite Taylor Swift songs, and owning sports cars. Kelly also talks about keynoting the THAT Conference in Texas and shares a preview of her presentation. Keep listening for their hot takes on tech Twitter fights and some humorous discussions!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:05] - Introduction and Hosts&#39; Banter&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Guest Introduction and Previous Episode Recap&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:00] - Whiskey Tasting: Bardstown Bourbon Company Fusion Series&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:11] - Whiskey Tasting: Flavor Notes and Ratings&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:23] - Discussion on Whiskey Accessories and Sponsorships&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:32] - Hot Takes: AI and Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:49] - Hot Takes: GraphQL and Sidebar Placement&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:44] - Cincinnati Chili Debate and Closing Remarks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:08] - A Tribute to Skyline Chili Employee&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - Fast Food Preferences and Discussions&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:32] - Fast Food and Road Trips&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:14] - Co-hosts Banter and Jokes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:05] - Upcoming Conference and Keynote Preparation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:55] - Car Enthusiast Conversations&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:05] - Taylor Swift Fan Discussion&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:15] - Work-Life Balance in Software Engineering&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:02:43] - Closing Remarks and Future Plans&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spot.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spot AI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/sjbphnb7imt37pgv0f7h03fi/thumbnail-sjbphnb7imt37pgv0f7h03fi.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/sjbphnb7imt37pgv0f7h03fi/thumbnail-sjbphnb7imt37pgv0f7h03fi.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/y5m0x103ubsz29hrycx3m9zm/i8lupjwigc2rhdkomjv1le0h/transcoded-01KECKE23TWHXHT8BMYR5VST9E-01KECKE23TS194TVPCSCXYDQNN_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Conferences, Remote Work and the Intersection of AI and Web Design with Clark Sell</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite Clark Sell onto the show. Clark, the founder of &#39;THAT Conference&#39; and &#39;Unspecified&#39;, talks about the genesis of the conference, the current state of tech, and his use of artificial intelligence services likeGPT-3 and DALL-E. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The hosts and Clark also try out a new whiskey, discuss
football and their disdain for certain programming languages. Tune in to hear about the intersection of tech and whiskey, and get some insights into the future of AI and the tech industry.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:34] - Guest Introduction: Clark Sell&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:05] - Whiskey Tasting Session&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:11] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - The Journey of That Conference&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:45] - The Future of Tech and Conferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:13] - The Reality of Being a Senior Developer&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:26] - The Challenges of Job Hunting in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:52] - The Impact of AI on Tech Jobs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:01] - The Shift to Remote Work&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:05] - The Debate on Return to Office&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - The Rise of Online Personalities in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:07] - The Influence of Social Media on Tech Careers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:42] - The Role of In-Person Interactions in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:35] - The Controversy Around React&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:30] - The Evolution of Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:07] - The Debate on HTML as a Programming Language&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:37] - The Impact of AI on Content Creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:07] - The Influence of Cryptocurrency&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:17] - The Role of AI in Education&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:43] - The Future of AI in Content Generation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:37] - The Importance of Community Involvement in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/TheClarkSell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Clark Sell Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/theclarksell/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Clark Sell LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thatconference.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;THAT Conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://unspecified.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Unspecified&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more?
  Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
  &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">49823b4a-3826-4452-9beb-ef693b5606e7</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/oktb9lf862hxb01w5rir3nux.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite Clark Sell onto the show. Clark, the founder of 'THAT Conference' and 'Unspecified', talks about the genesis of the conference, the current state of tech, and his use of artificial intelligence services likeGPT-3 and DALL-E. </p>
<p>The hosts and Clark also try out a new whiskey, discuss
football and their disdain for certain programming languages. Tune in to hear about the intersection of tech and whiskey, and get some insights into the future of AI and the tech industry.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:34] - Guest Introduction: Clark Sell</li>
 <li>[02:05] - Whiskey Tasting Session</li>
  <li>[07:11] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates</li>
  <li>[17:08] - The Journey of That Conference</li>
  <li>[23:45] - The Future of Tech and Conferences</li>
  <li>[31:13] - The Reality of Being a Senior Developer</li>
  <li>[31:26] - The Challenges of Job Hunting in Tech</li>
  <li>[31:52] - The Impact of AI on Tech Jobs</li>
  <li>[33:01] - The Shift to Remote Work</li>
  <li>[34:05] - The Debate on Return to Office</li>
  <li>[34:37] - The Rise of Online Personalities in Tech</li>
  <li>[35:07] - The Influence of Social Media on Tech Careers</li>
  <li>[35:42] - The Role of In-Person Interactions in Tech</li>
  <li>[36:35] - The Controversy Around React</li>
  <li>[37:30] - The Evolution of Web Development</li>
  <li>[38:07] - The Debate on HTML as a Programming Language</li>
  <li>[39:37] - The Impact of AI on Content Creation</li>
  <li>[41:07] - The Influence of Cryptocurrency</li>
  <li>[52:17] - The Role of AI in Education</li>
  <li>[54:43] - The Future of AI in Content Generation</li>
  <li>[58:37] - The Importance of Community Involvement in Tech</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/TheClarkSell" target="_blank">Clark Sell Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/theclarksell/" target="_blank">Clark Sell LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thatconference.com/" target="_blank">THAT Conference</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://unspecified.io/" target="_blank">Unspecified</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Promos</strong></p>
<p>
  Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more?
  Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
  <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>⁠.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Conferences, Remote Work and the Intersection of AI and Web Design with Clark Sell</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oktb9lf862hxb01w5rir3nux/ujy8t4zizsnvcful5qgjr5nz.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3652</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>125</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III invite Clark Sell onto the show. Clark, the founder of &#39;THAT Conference&#39; and &#39;Unspecified&#39;, talks about the genesis of the conference, the current state of tech, and his use of artificial intelligence services likeGPT-3 and DALL-E. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The hosts and Clark also try out a new whiskey, discuss
football and their disdain for certain programming languages. Tune in to hear about the intersection of tech and whiskey, and get some insights into the future of AI and the tech industry.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:34] - Guest Introduction: Clark Sell&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:05] - Whiskey Tasting Session&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:11] - Hot Takes: Tech Debates&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - The Journey of That Conference&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:45] - The Future of Tech and Conferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:13] - The Reality of Being a Senior Developer&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:26] - The Challenges of Job Hunting in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:52] - The Impact of AI on Tech Jobs&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:01] - The Shift to Remote Work&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:05] - The Debate on Return to Office&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:37] - The Rise of Online Personalities in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:07] - The Influence of Social Media on Tech Careers&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:42] - The Role of In-Person Interactions in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:35] - The Controversy Around React&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:30] - The Evolution of Web Development&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:07] - The Debate on HTML as a Programming Language&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:37] - The Impact of AI on Content Creation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:07] - The Influence of Cryptocurrency&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:17] - The Role of AI in Education&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:43] - The Future of AI in Content Generation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[58:37] - The Importance of Community Involvement in Tech&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/TheClarkSell&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Clark Sell Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/theclarksell/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Clark Sell LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thatconference.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;THAT Conference&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://unspecified.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Unspecified&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more?
  Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at
  &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;⁠.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oktb9lf862hxb01w5rir3nux/egqli9y4oohfyer7pmi7z1bw/transcoded-01KECKE0BQ10GGGAB3S0ZRGQWX-01KECKE0BQ6KQJXVDMQ3JRVYVE_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Monthly Malarkey: Cat Pee Problems, French Cuisine and Halloween Costume Plans</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Are you ready to swap the smooth strokes of a keyboard for the smooth taste of whiskey? Get set to be whisked away on a &#34;Monthly Malarkey&#34; adventure where H Derringer bourbon whiskey takes center stage, cork shaped like a trusty firearm and all. Sit back and sip along as we share our candid taste test findings, from the intricacies of its flavor profile to whether it truly deserves a spot on your top-shelf. But that&#39;s not all – join us as we dissect the online shopping landscape, hunting for those electrifying deals, and rev up the conversation with our thoughts on the latest electric vehicle trends.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ever had a face-off with carpet stains and lived to tell the tale? In this episode, we share our own showdown with the notorious Stanley Steamer and our relentless pursuit to vanquish persistent pet odors. Parenting is tough enough without adding finicky food preferences into the mix, so we&#39;re also spilling the beans on our strategies for dealing with the dietary whims of little ones and the ever-present battle over screen time. Plus, we ponder the all-important question: To gaze or not to gaze into the camera? Your insights might just steer the future of our show.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As we roll out the red carpet for your ears, we recount an escapade through the cobblestoned streets of France, reliving the epicurean ecstasy and the occasional eyebrow-raising dish – oyster ice cream, anyone? We also get real about the pressures of dining in the lap of luxury and share a slice of our Halloween costume conundrums. So, whether you&#39;re here for the whiskey wisdom or to peek behind the curtain of our family dynamics, this episode is packed with laughter, revelations, and the kind of honest chatter that feels like a night in with your best pals.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:39] - Introducing a New Segment: Monthly Malarkey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Derringer Whiskey Review&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:03] - The Whiskey Tasting Experience&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:00] - Rating the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:13] - The Price of Whiskey: Is it Worth it?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:11] - Moving into a New House&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:56] - The Debate: Online Shopping vs In-Store Shopping&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:06] - The Future of Electric Vehicles&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:31] - The Stanley Steamer Story: A Moving Catastrophe&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:40] - The Cost of Living and Inflation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:25] - Debate on Food Choices for Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:54] - The Struggles of Parenting Picky Eaters&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:22] - The Challenges of Introducing New Foods to Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:59] - The Evolution of Kids&#39; Food Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:17] - The Dilemma of Meal Choices for Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:20] - The Impact of Screen Time on Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:12] - The Debate on Looking into the Camera&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:13] - The Fun of Sending Unusual Gifts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:11] - The Benefits of Beflow Desks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:36] - The Importance of Cable Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:59] - The Joy of Family in Lego&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - The Experience of Dining in France&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:33] - The Excitement of Family Halloween Costumes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:39] - The Fascination of Kids with Video Games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund/⁠.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7b7eae8c-3a5b-41b7-9ec8-7ef4e4238c96</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qh9w0prkjrqus64bw2ae0x4b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you ready to swap the smooth strokes of a keyboard for the smooth taste of whiskey? Get set to be whisked away on a "Monthly Malarkey" adventure where H Derringer bourbon whiskey takes center stage, cork shaped like a trusty firearm and all. Sit back and sip along as we share our candid taste test findings, from the intricacies of its flavor profile to whether it truly deserves a spot on your top-shelf. But that's not all – join us as we dissect the online shopping landscape, hunting for those electrifying deals, and rev up the conversation with our thoughts on the latest electric vehicle trends.</p>
<p>
Ever had a face-off with carpet stains and lived to tell the tale? In this episode, we share our own showdown with the notorious Stanley Steamer and our relentless pursuit to vanquish persistent pet odors. Parenting is tough enough without adding finicky food preferences into the mix, so we're also spilling the beans on our strategies for dealing with the dietary whims of little ones and the ever-present battle over screen time. Plus, we ponder the all-important question: To gaze or not to gaze into the camera? Your insights might just steer the future of our show.</p>
<p>
As we roll out the red carpet for your ears, we recount an escapade through the cobblestoned streets of France, reliving the epicurean ecstasy and the occasional eyebrow-raising dish – oyster ice cream, anyone? We also get real about the pressures of dining in the lap of luxury and share a slice of our Halloween costume conundrums. So, whether you're here for the whiskey wisdom or to peek behind the curtain of our family dynamics, this episode is packed with laughter, revelations, and the kind of honest chatter that feels like a night in with your best pals.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:39] - Introducing a New Segment: Monthly Malarkey</li>
 <li>[01:15] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Derringer Whiskey Review</li>
 <li>[04:03] - The Whiskey Tasting Experience</li>
 <li>[05:00] - Rating the Whiskey</li>
  <li>[05:13] - The Price of Whiskey: Is it Worth it?</li>
  <li>[08:11] - Moving into a New House</li>
  <li>[08:56] - The Debate: Online Shopping vs In-Store Shopping</li>
  <li>[15:06] - The Future of Electric Vehicles</li>
  <li>[19:31] - The Stanley Steamer Story: A Moving Catastrophe</li>
  <li>[27:40] - The Cost of Living and Inflation</li>
  <li>[29:25] - Debate on Food Choices for Kids</li>
  <li>[29:54] - The Struggles of Parenting Picky Eaters</li>
  <li>[30:22] - The Challenges of Introducing New Foods to Kids</li>
  <li>[30:59] - The Evolution of Kids' Food Preferences</li>
  <li>[31:17] - The Dilemma of Meal Choices for Kids</li>
  <li>[32:20] - The Impact of Screen Time on Kids</li>
  <li>[33:12] - The Debate on Looking into the Camera</li>
  <li>[34:13] - The Fun of Sending Unusual Gifts</li>
  <li>[35:11] - The Benefits of Beflow Desks</li>
  <li>[35:36] - The Importance of Cable Management</li>
  <li>[37:59] - The Joy of Family in Lego</li>
  <li>[42:59] - The Experience of Dining in France</li>
  <li>[53:33] - The Excitement of Family Halloween Costumes</li>
  <li>[57:39] - The Fascination of Kids with Video Games</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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<p><br></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Monthly Malarkey: Cat Pee Problems, French Cuisine and Halloween Costume Plans</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qh9w0prkjrqus64bw2ae0x4b/tpf2jj9nkrog4ekf5q2qlidp.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3608</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>124</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Are you ready to swap the smooth strokes of a keyboard for the smooth taste of whiskey? Get set to be whisked away on a &#34;Monthly Malarkey&#34; adventure where H Derringer bourbon whiskey takes center stage, cork shaped like a trusty firearm and all. Sit back and sip along as we share our candid taste test findings, from the intricacies of its flavor profile to whether it truly deserves a spot on your top-shelf. But that&#39;s not all – join us as we dissect the online shopping landscape, hunting for those electrifying deals, and rev up the conversation with our thoughts on the latest electric vehicle trends.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ever had a face-off with carpet stains and lived to tell the tale? In this episode, we share our own showdown with the notorious Stanley Steamer and our relentless pursuit to vanquish persistent pet odors. Parenting is tough enough without adding finicky food preferences into the mix, so we&#39;re also spilling the beans on our strategies for dealing with the dietary whims of little ones and the ever-present battle over screen time. Plus, we ponder the all-important question: To gaze or not to gaze into the camera? Your insights might just steer the future of our show.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As we roll out the red carpet for your ears, we recount an escapade through the cobblestoned streets of France, reliving the epicurean ecstasy and the occasional eyebrow-raising dish – oyster ice cream, anyone? We also get real about the pressures of dining in the lap of luxury and share a slice of our Halloween costume conundrums. So, whether you&#39;re here for the whiskey wisdom or to peek behind the curtain of our family dynamics, this episode is packed with laughter, revelations, and the kind of honest chatter that feels like a night in with your best pals.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:39] - Introducing a New Segment: Monthly Malarkey&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Derringer Whiskey Review&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:03] - The Whiskey Tasting Experience&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:00] - Rating the Whiskey&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:13] - The Price of Whiskey: Is it Worth it?&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:11] - Moving into a New House&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:56] - The Debate: Online Shopping vs In-Store Shopping&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:06] - The Future of Electric Vehicles&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:31] - The Stanley Steamer Story: A Moving Catastrophe&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:40] - The Cost of Living and Inflation&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:25] - Debate on Food Choices for Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:54] - The Struggles of Parenting Picky Eaters&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:22] - The Challenges of Introducing New Foods to Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:59] - The Evolution of Kids&#39; Food Preferences&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:17] - The Dilemma of Meal Choices for Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:20] - The Impact of Screen Time on Kids&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:12] - The Debate on Looking into the Camera&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:13] - The Fun of Sending Unusual Gifts&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:11] - The Benefits of Beflow Desks&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:36] - The Importance of Cable Management&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:59] - The Joy of Family in Lego&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:59] - The Experience of Dining in France&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:33] - The Excitement of Family Halloween Costumes&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:39] - The Fascination of Kids with Video Games&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Promos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/it5og72iru33itiu4nhvc4o4/thumbnail-it5og72iru33itiu4nhvc4o4.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/it5og72iru33itiu4nhvc4o4/thumbnail-it5og72iru33itiu4nhvc4o4.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qh9w0prkjrqus64bw2ae0x4b/fza1ij28cvq6v28r8b13r6bg/transcoded-01KECKE0HBSVNVJTAWB1CNSKV2-01KECKE0HB5FAWRT0TBSX3W3J1_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, Web Technologies, and Learning to Code with Ken Wheeler</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler is a software engineer with well over a decade of experience. He shares stories about his journey into tech, his life, and his hobbies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ken fell in love with coding as a kid, building his skills from QBasic to PHP and HTML. He recounts his transition from being a rap producer for a decade to stumbling upon a job listing for a web developer using Flash. After twisting the truth to get through the interview, he spent five years building local restaurant websites with Flash animations. Ken dives into some unfiltered hot takes from TypeScript to CSS and the ongoing debate of sidebar placement in VS Code. He shares his love for inferred types over explicit types, arguing in favor of TypeScript&#39;s Hindley-Milner type system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ken talks to Robbie and Chuck about his thoughts on types, Tailwind and VS Code, his coding journey from QBasic to HTML as a kid, and his technique for landing his first job.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Introduction to Ken Wheeler.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:56] - A whiskey review: Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:03] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:57] - Ken discusses his New Jersey roots and how he entered the tech field.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:51] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken talk about cars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:00] - Chuck’s plans to move to Italy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:04:41] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken discuss burgers and sandwiches.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:20] - “Typescript is good. It&#39;s better than Javascript.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:50] - “A senior at dickhead.com is not the same as a senior at Google.com.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:48] - “Webpack actually isn’t that hard, believe it or not, if you just dig into it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://formidable.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Formidable&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.basilhaydenbourbon.com/bourbon-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.serverlessui.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Serverless UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax.FM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gobeflo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beflo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joe Rogan Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in-with-chamath-jason-sacks-friedberg/id1502871393&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;All-In Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Darknet Diaries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NextJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Airbnb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby on Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.juul.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Juul&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marlboro.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marlboro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oracle.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salesforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.versace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Versace &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thenorthface.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The North Face&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redwingshoes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Wing Shoes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thursdayboots.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Thursday Boot Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.volvo.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Volvo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solostove.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solo Stove&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flexsealproducts.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flex Seal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Milan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fiveguys.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Five Guys&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jerseymikes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jersey Mike’s USA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;In-N-Out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shakeshack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shake Shack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPD_bxCRGpmmeQcbe2kpPaA&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;First We Feast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.arbys.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arby’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;McDonald’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React Miami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chick-fil-A&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">28dfa537-464b-4c5c-9ee5-4a709e0910ea</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qkuai3auittsc88ymzb1dkoz.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Wheeler is a software engineer with well over a decade of experience. He shares stories about his journey into tech, his life, and his hobbies.</p>
<p>
Ken fell in love with coding as a kid, building his skills from QBasic to PHP and HTML. He recounts his transition from being a rap producer for a decade to stumbling upon a job listing for a web developer using Flash. After twisting the truth to get through the interview, he spent five years building local restaurant websites with Flash animations. Ken dives into some unfiltered hot takes from TypeScript to CSS and the ongoing debate of sidebar placement in VS Code. He shares his love for inferred types over explicit types, arguing in favor of TypeScript's Hindley-Milner type system.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Ken talks to Robbie and Chuck about his thoughts on types, Tailwind and VS Code, his coding journey from QBasic to HTML as a kid, and his technique for landing his first job.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:48] - Introduction to Ken Wheeler.
</li>
 <li>[01:56] - A whiskey review: Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[19:03] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[40:57] - Ken discusses his New Jersey roots and how he entered the tech field.
</li>
  <li>[49:51] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken talk about cars.
</li>
  <li>[59:00] - Chuck’s plans to move to Italy.
</li>
  <li>[01:04:41] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken discuss burgers and sandwiches.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:20] - “Typescript is good. It's better than Javascript.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler</a></p>
<p>
[34:50] - “A senior at dickhead.com is not the same as a senior at Google.com.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler</a></p>
<p>
[37:48] - “Webpack actually isn’t that hard, believe it or not, if you just dig into it.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank">OpenAI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://formidable.com/" target="_blank">Formidable</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.basilhaydenbourbon.com/bourbon-whiskey" target="_blank">Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html" target="_blank">Pappy Van Winkle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coorslight.com/en-US" target="_blank">Coors Light</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://topgolf.com/" target="_blank">Topgolf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.crocs.com/" target="_blank">Crocs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.timberland.com/en-us" target="_blank">Timberland</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ritzcarlton.com/" target="_blank">The Ritz-Carlton</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.doordash.com/" target="_blank">DoorDash</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">Taco Bell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tabasco.com/" target="_blank">Tabasco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cholula.com/en-us" target="_blank">Cholula </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">Shepherd JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.serverlessui.app/" target="_blank">Serverless UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax.FM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gobeflo.com/" target="_blank">Beflo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk" target="_blank">Joe Rogan Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in-with-chamath-jason-sacks-friedberg/id1502871393" target="_blank">All-In Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/" target="_blank">Darknet Diaries</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">NextJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.airbnb.com/" target="_blank">Airbnb</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">Ruby on Rails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.juul.com/" target="_blank">Juul</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.marlboro.com/" target="_blank">Marlboro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/" target="_blank">Oracle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/" target="_blank">Salesforce</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank"> jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.versace.com/" target="_blank">Versace </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thenorthface.com/" target="_blank">The North Face</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.redwingshoes.com/" target="_blank">Red Wing Shoes</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thursdayboots.com/" target="_blank">Thursday Boot Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jeep.com/vehicle-selector.bmo.html" target="_blank">Jeep</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.volvo.com/en/" target="_blank">Volvo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solostove.com/en-us" target="_blank">Solo Stove</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://flexsealproducts.com/" target="_blank">Flex Seal</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.inter.it/en" target="_blank">Inter Milan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fiveguys.com/" target="_blank">Five Guys</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jerseymikes.com/" target="_blank">Jersey Mike’s USA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.in-n-out.com/" target="_blank">In-N-Out</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shakeshack.com/" target="_blank">Shake Shack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPD_bxCRGpmmeQcbe2kpPaA" target="_blank">First We Feast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.arbys.com/" target="_blank">Arby’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bk.com/" target="_blank">Burger King</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank">McDonald’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">React Miami</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/" target="_blank">Chick-fil-A</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, Web Technologies, and Learning to Code with Ken Wheeler</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qkuai3auittsc88ymzb1dkoz/izriq9ubwb2hvs6oxgp15xum.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4773</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>123</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Ken Wheeler is a software engineer with well over a decade of experience. He shares stories about his journey into tech, his life, and his hobbies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ken fell in love with coding as a kid, building his skills from QBasic to PHP and HTML. He recounts his transition from being a rap producer for a decade to stumbling upon a job listing for a web developer using Flash. After twisting the truth to get through the interview, he spent five years building local restaurant websites with Flash animations. Ken dives into some unfiltered hot takes from TypeScript to CSS and the ongoing debate of sidebar placement in VS Code. He shares his love for inferred types over explicit types, arguing in favor of TypeScript&#39;s Hindley-Milner type system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ken talks to Robbie and Chuck about his thoughts on types, Tailwind and VS Code, his coding journey from QBasic to HTML as a kid, and his technique for landing his first job.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:48] - Introduction to Ken Wheeler.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:56] - A whiskey review: Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:03] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:57] - Ken discusses his New Jersey roots and how he entered the tech field.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:51] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken talk about cars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[59:00] - Chuck’s plans to move to Italy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:04:41] - Chuck, Robbie, and Ken discuss burgers and sandwiches.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:20] - “Typescript is good. It&#39;s better than Javascript.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:50] - “A senior at dickhead.com is not the same as a senior at Google.com.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:48] - “Webpack actually isn’t that hard, believe it or not, if you just dig into it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennywheeler/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ken_wheeler&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://formidable.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Formidable&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.basilhaydenbourbon.com/bourbon-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Basil Hayden Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coorslight.com/en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coors Light&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://topgolf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Topgolf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crocs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crocs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.timberland.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Timberland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ritzcarlton.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Ritz-Carlton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DoorDash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tabasco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tabasco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cholula.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cholula &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.serverlessui.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Serverless UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax.FM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gobeflo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beflo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joe Rogan Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-in-with-chamath-jason-sacks-friedberg/id1502871393&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;All-In Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Darknet Diaries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NextJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Airbnb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby on Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.juul.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Juul&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marlboro.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marlboro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oracle.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salesforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.versace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Versace &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thenorthface.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The North Face&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redwingshoes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Wing Shoes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thursdayboots.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Thursday Boot Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jeep.com/vehicle-selector.bmo.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.volvo.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Volvo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qkuai3auittsc88ymzb1dkoz/n3g3v0be8676haxsen17pimp/transcoded-01KECKE5R1KE6Q12543WCMJ7EK-01KECKE5R1MZCZ51BFS54EG1AD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Open-Source, Payload, and Sim Racing with James Mikrut</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The world of programming can be complex, but some developers find beauty in keeping coding clean, simple, and straightforward. This philosophy led developer James Mikrut to write his entire codebase in functional programming.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;James is the founder and CEO of Payload, an application framework that he describes as a backend with an API and an automatically generated admin panel. The framework is built with React, Node.js, and Typescript. James reveals the evolution of his project from a licensed tool to a thriving open-source platform. He explains the pivotal decision to embrace open-source, and shares how user feedback steered Payload towards greater heights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, James talks to Robbie and Chuck about the culture of open-source, the reason Payload switched to open-source, and the world of sim racing. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:39] - Introduction to James Mikrut.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:36] - A whiskey review: Coopers’ Craft Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:47] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:52] - Why Payload switched to open-source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:18] - Chuck, Robbie, and James talk about gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:37] - What career would James choose if he wasn’t in tech?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[01:10] - “I saw the need for a proper application framework in Typescript and all the modern bells and whistles, and I started Payload.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:06] - “The web is winning, and I’m a big fan of that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[48:25] - “Really, what Payload is, it&#39;s a back end with an API and an automatically generated admin panel.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jamesmikrut?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://payloadcms.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Payload &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cooperscraft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coopers&#39; Craft Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Forester &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brown-forman.com/brands&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brown-Forman Brand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Woodford Reserve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.newhollandbrew.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;New Holland Brewing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://foundersbrewing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Founders Brewing Co.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.milbest.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Milwaukee&#39;s Best&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intuit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Intuit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irs.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internal Revenue Service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/conf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js Conf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.beekeeperstudio.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beekeeper Studio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pubg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PUBG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iracing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iRacing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b77e2177-7795-488d-82cb-3381f0827d7a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yuwqbgdwwdigu59wk0nfzjbk.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world of programming can be complex, but some developers find beauty in keeping coding clean, simple, and straightforward. This philosophy led developer James Mikrut to write his entire codebase in functional programming.
</p><p>James is the founder and CEO of Payload, an application framework that he describes as a backend with an API and an automatically generated admin panel. The framework is built with React, Node.js, and Typescript. James reveals the evolution of his project from a licensed tool to a thriving open-source platform. He explains the pivotal decision to embrace open-source, and shares how user feedback steered Payload towards greater heights.</p>
<p>
In this episode, James talks to Robbie and Chuck about the culture of open-source, the reason Payload switched to open-source, and the world of sim racing. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:39] - Introduction to James Mikrut.
</li>
 <li>[02:36] - A whiskey review: Coopers’ Craft Bourbon.
</li>
  <li>[17:47] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[41:52] - Why Payload switched to open-source.
</li>
  <li>[55:18] - Chuck, Robbie, and James talk about gaming.
</li>
  <li>[57:37] - What career would James choose if he wasn’t in tech?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[01:10] - “I saw the need for a proper application framework in Typescript and all the modern bells and whistles, and I started Payload.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/" target="_blank">James Mikrut</a></p>
<p>
[32:06] - “The web is winning, and I’m a big fan of that.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/" target="_blank">James Mikrut</a></p>
<p>
[48:25] - “Really, what Payload is, it's a back end with an API and an automatically generated admin panel.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/" target="_blank">James Mikrut</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jamesmikrut?lang=en" target="_blank">James Mikrut Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a" target="_blank">James Mikrut LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://payloadcms.com/" target="_blank">Payload </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cooperscraft.com/" target="_blank">Coopers' Craft Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oldforester.com/" target="_blank">Old Forester </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brown-forman.com/brands" target="_blank">Brown-Forman Brand</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.woodfordreserve.com/" target="_blank">Woodford Reserve</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.newhollandbrew.com/" target="_blank">New Holland Brewing</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://foundersbrewing.com/" target="_blank">Founders Brewing Co.</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.milbest.com/" target="_blank">Milwaukee's Best</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.intuit.com/" target="_blank">Intuit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.irs.gov/" target="_blank">Internal Revenue Service</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://orm.drizzle.team/" target="_blank">Drizzle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sst.dev/" target="_blank">SST</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">React Miami</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kit.svelte.dev/" target="_blank">SvelteKit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angularjs.org/" target="_blank">Angular JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://backbonejs.org/" target="_blank">Backbone.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/conf" target="_blank">Next.js Conf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.counter-strike.net/" target="_blank">Counter-Strike</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" target="_blank">Reddit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.beekeeperstudio.io/" target="_blank">Beekeeper Studio</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 23</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cloudflare.com/" target="_blank">Cloudflare</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira" target="_blank">Jira</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zendesk.com/" target="_blank">Zendesk</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/?lang=en-US" target="_blank">Fortnite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pubg.com/" target="_blank">PUBG</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.iracing.com/" target="_blank">iRacing</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
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<p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Open-Source, Payload, and Sim Racing with James Mikrut</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yuwqbgdwwdigu59wk0nfzjbk/cptc6qvb9gkgub0kvenait7e.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3655</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>122</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The world of programming can be complex, but some developers find beauty in keeping coding clean, simple, and straightforward. This philosophy led developer James Mikrut to write his entire codebase in functional programming.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;James is the founder and CEO of Payload, an application framework that he describes as a backend with an API and an automatically generated admin panel. The framework is built with React, Node.js, and Typescript. James reveals the evolution of his project from a licensed tool to a thriving open-source platform. He explains the pivotal decision to embrace open-source, and shares how user feedback steered Payload towards greater heights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, James talks to Robbie and Chuck about the culture of open-source, the reason Payload switched to open-source, and the world of sim racing. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:39] - Introduction to James Mikrut.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:36] - A whiskey review: Coopers’ Craft Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:47] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:52] - Why Payload switched to open-source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:18] - Chuck, Robbie, and James talk about gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:37] - What career would James choose if he wasn’t in tech?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[01:10] - “I saw the need for a proper application framework in Typescript and all the modern bells and whistles, and I started Payload.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:06] - “The web is winning, and I’m a big fan of that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[48:25] - “Really, what Payload is, it&#39;s a back end with an API and an automatically generated admin panel.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jamesmikrut?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-mikrut-3202985a&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Mikrut LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://payloadcms.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Payload &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cooperscraft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coopers&#39; Craft Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oldforester.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Forester &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brown-forman.com/brands&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brown-Forman Brand&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Woodford Reserve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.newhollandbrew.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;New Holland Brewing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://foundersbrewing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Founders Brewing Co.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.milbest.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Milwaukee&#39;s Best&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intuit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Intuit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irs.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internal Revenue Service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://orm.drizzle.team/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Drizzle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sst.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SST&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React Miami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kit.svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SvelteKit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angularjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/conf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js Conf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.counter-strike.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Counter-Strike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.beekeeperstudio.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beekeeper Studio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zoom.us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zoom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jira&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zendesk.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zendesk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fortnite.com/?lang=en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fortnite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pubg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PUBG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iracing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iRacing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;⁠https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/wirhfo1u9u347jspsf3mk6iy/thumbnail-wirhfo1u9u347jspsf3mk6iy.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/wirhfo1u9u347jspsf3mk6iy/thumbnail-wirhfo1u9u347jspsf3mk6iy.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yuwqbgdwwdigu59wk0nfzjbk/mfg1w2f1qsyuhn2fs8j3crt9/transcoded-01KECKD455BQTFKWM8204HPDD1-01KECKD455TA7B4W9KMAC6JGZN_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Stacks, Building Apps, and Gaming Nostalgia with David Cramer</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Whether you&#39;re a seasoned coder or just starting out, the tech you choose can make a big difference. Sometimes choosing the wrong tech can be frustrating and ruin a great project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
David Cramer, Co-Founder and CTO of Sentry, joins Chuck and Robbie to talk about some well-known frameworks in the tech space. They discuss the challenge of selecting a good tech stack. David sheds light on the considerations behind choosing Vercel for Remix apps and the complexities of integrating Fastify for backend services. David also explains the downsides of GraphQL and why it is only relevant for Facebook. Later, he reflects on his gaming nostalgia, sharing experiences of gaming as a teenager and the struggle to find time for immersive gaming as an adult.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, David talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on GraphQL, crucial development stack decisions, and some of the challenges with adult gaming.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:42] - Introduction to David Cramer.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:26] - A whiskey review: High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:10] - David talks about the history of Sentry and lessons learned.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:38] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:05] - David’s take on work-life balance.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:36] - Why David built Peated.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:03] - David talks about his interest in eFoils.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:07] - Chuck, Robbie, and David discuss gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:18] - If David wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:31] - “The maturity I’ve gotten as a developer over the years is to stop caring about silly things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:42] - “Nothing great in history has ever been done without a lot of effort.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:51] - “One of the best things you can do, if you actually want to get good at something is to have a side project.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/zeeg?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://peated.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwiredistilling.squarespace.com/jimmy-red-revival-project&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starburst.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starburst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dropbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dropbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bottlebluebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bottle Blue Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React Miami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;World of Warcraft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.factorio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Factorio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/simcity&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SimCity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walmart.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Walmart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9632c0ad-fb64-4ee8-b4ae-d855cbb196e2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qx4edesu56kgqg8jmjscg924.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you're a seasoned coder or just starting out, the tech you choose can make a big difference. Sometimes choosing the wrong tech can be frustrating and ruin a great project.</p>
<p>
David Cramer, Co-Founder and CTO of Sentry, joins Chuck and Robbie to talk about some well-known frameworks in the tech space. They discuss the challenge of selecting a good tech stack. David sheds light on the considerations behind choosing Vercel for Remix apps and the complexities of integrating Fastify for backend services. David also explains the downsides of GraphQL and why it is only relevant for Facebook. Later, he reflects on his gaming nostalgia, sharing experiences of gaming as a teenager and the struggle to find time for immersive gaming as an adult.</p>
<p>
In this episode, David talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on GraphQL, crucial development stack decisions, and some of the challenges with adult gaming.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:42] - Introduction to David Cramer.
</li>
 <li>[01:26] - A whiskey review: High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon
</li>
  <li>[10:10] - David talks about the history of Sentry and lessons learned.
</li>
  <li>[14:38] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[26:05] - David’s take on work-life balance.
</li>
  <li>[33:36] - Why David built Peated.
</li>
  <li>[42:03] - David talks about his interest in eFoils.
</li>
  <li>[45:07] - Chuck, Robbie, and David discuss gaming.
</li>
  <li>[48:18] - If David wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:31] - “The maturity I’ve gotten as a developer over the years is to stop caring about silly things.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/" target="_blank">David Cramer</a></p>
<p>
[27:42] - “Nothing great in history has ever been done without a lot of effort.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/" target="_blank">David Cramer</a></p>
<p>
[34:51] - “One of the best things you can do, if you actually want to get good at something is to have a side project.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/" target="_blank">David Cramer</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/" target="_blank">David Cramer LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/zeeg?lang=en" target="_blank">David Cramer Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://peated.com/" target="_blank">Peated</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://highwiredistilling.squarespace.com/jimmy-red-revival-project" target="_blank">High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starburst.com/" target="_blank">Starburst</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en" target="_blank">Jim Beam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/" target="_blank">Dropbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bottlebluebook.com/" target="_blank">Bottle Blue Book</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reactmiami.com/" target="_blank">React Miami</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">World of Warcraft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.factorio.com/" target="_blank">Factorio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/simcity" target="_blank">SimCity</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 23</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank">Walmart</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Stacks, Building Apps, and Gaming Nostalgia with David Cramer</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qx4edesu56kgqg8jmjscg924/u1xikolh457itjki32t58yuw.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3360</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>121</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Whether you&#39;re a seasoned coder or just starting out, the tech you choose can make a big difference. Sometimes choosing the wrong tech can be frustrating and ruin a great project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
David Cramer, Co-Founder and CTO of Sentry, joins Chuck and Robbie to talk about some well-known frameworks in the tech space. They discuss the challenge of selecting a good tech stack. David sheds light on the considerations behind choosing Vercel for Remix apps and the complexities of integrating Fastify for backend services. David also explains the downsides of GraphQL and why it is only relevant for Facebook. Later, he reflects on his gaming nostalgia, sharing experiences of gaming as a teenager and the struggle to find time for immersive gaming as an adult.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, David talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on GraphQL, crucial development stack decisions, and some of the challenges with adult gaming.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:42] - Introduction to David Cramer.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:26] - A whiskey review: High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:10] - David talks about the history of Sentry and lessons learned.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:38] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:05] - David’s take on work-life balance.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:36] - Why David built Peated.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:03] - David talks about his interest in eFoils.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:07] - Chuck, Robbie, and David discuss gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:18] - If David wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:31] - “The maturity I’ve gotten as a developer over the years is to stop caring about silly things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:42] - “Nothing great in history has ever been done without a lot of effort.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:51] - “One of the best things you can do, if you actually want to get good at something is to have a side project.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcramer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/zeeg?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Cramer Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://peated.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://highwiredistilling.squarespace.com/jimmy-red-revival-project&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Wire Distilling Co New Southern Revival Jimmy Red Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starburst.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starburst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dropbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dropbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bottlebluebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bottle Blue Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reactmiami.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React Miami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;World of Warcraft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.factorio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Factorio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/simcity&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SimCity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walmart.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Walmart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yolu9bepzhkbkxt5r3u1drur/thumbnail-yolu9bepzhkbkxt5r3u1drur.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/yolu9bepzhkbkxt5r3u1drur/thumbnail-yolu9bepzhkbkxt5r3u1drur.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qx4edesu56kgqg8jmjscg924/wee6llehz8h4502p2fthn0vk/transcoded-01KECKE045MQG456F72WJ5J9S2-01KECKE045V08Y7J6R0K66HTGM_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Have you ever reflected on the tools that shaped your journey as a developer? Jhey Tompkins, Senior DX Engineer at Vercel, takes a trip down memory lane with Chuck and Robbie, even diving into the topic of Tailwind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As a CSS experimenter, Jhey is a fan of Tailwind. He explains how, beyond all the debates, its real value of simplifying CSS shines through. Jhey also walks through his experience with a Backbone Marionette app that&#39;s still hanging out on GitHub pages, highlighting one of its most memorable features—event handling in strings. He also touches on modern frameworks like Vue, Astro, and Svelte, sharing his experience with each.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jhey talks to Robbie and Chuck about the inspiration behind his bear logo, experimenting with CSS using Tailwind, and the nostalgia for old-school frameworks. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:53] - Introduction to Jhey Tompkins.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:57] - A whiskey review: Eagle Rare 10 Year.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:36] - Jhey explains the inspiration behind his bear logo.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:28] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss old-school frameworks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:20] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:27] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss restaurants in the U.S. and UK.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:03] - “That’s one thing I’m driven by. I love learning different stuff.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:37] - “One of the things I always say to people is, just have a go at building from scratch and then reach for stuff later on.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jh3yy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[56:47] - “Go beyond the documentation, become it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jhey.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jh3yy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mlssoccer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Major League Soccer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaglerare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eagle Rare 10-year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Milan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.waze.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Waze&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://threejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Three JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/application-directory&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;App Directory &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.americanexpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;American Express&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irobot.com/en_US/us-roomba.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roomba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redhotandblue.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Hot and Blue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wendys.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wendy’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;In-N-Out Burger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackinthebox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack in the Box&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cornishpastyco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cornish Pasty Co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.goodnes.com/hot-pockets/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hot Pocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open-ui.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Open UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gsap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GSAP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DevTools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5b724a95-744e-4923-b21a-7396787d3197</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fp65qi9x3482p3zx5n4a46e2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever reflected on the tools that shaped your journey as a developer? Jhey Tompkins, Senior DX Engineer at Vercel, takes a trip down memory lane with Chuck and Robbie, even diving into the topic of Tailwind.</p>
<p>
As a CSS experimenter, Jhey is a fan of Tailwind. He explains how, beyond all the debates, its real value of simplifying CSS shines through. Jhey also walks through his experience with a Backbone Marionette app that's still hanging out on GitHub pages, highlighting one of its most memorable features—event handling in strings. He also touches on modern frameworks like Vue, Astro, and Svelte, sharing his experience with each.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Jhey talks to Robbie and Chuck about the inspiration behind his bear logo, experimenting with CSS using Tailwind, and the nostalgia for old-school frameworks. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:53] - Introduction to Jhey Tompkins.
</li>
 <li>[02:57] - A whiskey review: Eagle Rare 10 Year.
</li>
  <li>[14:36] - Jhey explains the inspiration behind his bear logo.
</li>
  <li>[21:28] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss old-school frameworks.
</li>
  <li>[33:20] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[44:27] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss restaurants in the U.S. and UK.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:03] - “That’s one thing I’m driven by. I love learning different stuff.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/" target="_blank">Jhey Tompkins</a></p>
<p>
[29:37] - “One of the things I always say to people is, just have a go at building from scratch and then reach for stuff later on.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/jh3yy" target="_blank"> Jhey Tompkins</a></p>
<p>
[56:47] - “Go beyond the documentation, become it.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/" target="_blank">Jhey Tompkins</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://jhey.dev/" target="_blank">Jhey Tompkins</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jh3yy" target="_blank">Jhey Tompkins Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/" target="_blank">Jhey Tompkins LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li> <a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a>
</li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mlssoccer.com/" target="_blank">Major League Soccer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://eaglerare.com/" target="_blank">Eagle Rare 10-year</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.inter.it/en" target="_blank">Inter Milan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/" target="_blank">Manchester United</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.waze.com/" target="_blank">Waze</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepsi.com/" target="_blank">Pepsi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.costco.com/" target="_blank">Costco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">CodePen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://threejs.org/" target="_blank">Three JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/application-directory" target="_blank">App Directory </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.americanexpress.com/" target="_blank">American Express</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.irobot.com/en_US/us-roomba.html" target="_blank">Roomba</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redhotandblue.com/" target="_blank">Red Hot and Blue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">Taco Bell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wendys.com/" target="_blank">Wendy’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.in-n-out.com/" target="_blank">In-N-Out Burger</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackinthebox.com/" target="_blank">Jack in the Box</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cornishpastyco.com/" target="_blank">Cornish Pasty Co</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.goodnes.com/hot-pockets/" target="_blank">Hot Pocket</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open-ui.org/" target="_blank">Open UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gsap.com/" target="_blank">GSAP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/" target="_blank">DevTools</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch</strong></p>
<p>
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: <a href="https://whiskey.fund/" target="_blank">https://whiskey.fund/</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Throwback Frameworks, Tailwind Fandom, and CSS with Jhey Tompkins</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fp65qi9x3482p3zx5n4a46e2/qzivndc8e0mlthihjty15w5i.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3990</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>120</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Have you ever reflected on the tools that shaped your journey as a developer? Jhey Tompkins, Senior DX Engineer at Vercel, takes a trip down memory lane with Chuck and Robbie, even diving into the topic of Tailwind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As a CSS experimenter, Jhey is a fan of Tailwind. He explains how, beyond all the debates, its real value of simplifying CSS shines through. Jhey also walks through his experience with a Backbone Marionette app that&#39;s still hanging out on GitHub pages, highlighting one of its most memorable features—event handling in strings. He also touches on modern frameworks like Vue, Astro, and Svelte, sharing his experience with each.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jhey talks to Robbie and Chuck about the inspiration behind his bear logo, experimenting with CSS using Tailwind, and the nostalgia for old-school frameworks. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:53] - Introduction to Jhey Tompkins.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:57] - A whiskey review: Eagle Rare 10 Year.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:36] - Jhey explains the inspiration behind his bear logo.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:28] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss old-school frameworks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:20] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:27] - Chuck, Robbie, and Jhey discuss restaurants in the U.S. and UK.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:03] - “That’s one thing I’m driven by. I love learning different stuff.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:37] - “One of the things I always say to people is, just have a go at building from scratch and then reach for stuff later on.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jh3yy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[56:47] - “Go beyond the documentation, become it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jhey.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jh3yy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheytompkins/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jhey Tompkins LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mlssoccer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Major League Soccer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaglerare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eagle Rare 10-year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Milan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.waze.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Waze&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://threejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Three JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/application-directory&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;App Directory &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.americanexpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;American Express&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.irobot.com/en_US/us-roomba.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roomba&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redhotandblue.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Hot and Blue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wendys.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wendy’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;In-N-Out Burger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackinthebox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack in the Box&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cornishpastyco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cornish Pasty Co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.goodnes.com/hot-pockets/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hot Pocket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open-ui.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Open UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gsap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GSAP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DevTools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Need a last minute holiday gift and want to support the podcast? We have just the thing! Pick up a Whiskey Web and Whatnot Holiday Sweater on our new merch store: &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskey.fund/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://whiskey.fund/&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fp65qi9x3482p3zx5n4a46e2/f4frrkt8sm376yoieftytgbq/transcoded-01KECKD1K0HH4WVKZN765A9264-01KECKD1K0742P697TE6ZEFSEP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Cracking the Podcasting Code with Andrew Lisowski and Justin Bennett</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Podcasts are a popular way to share knowledge, stories, and ideas in the tech space and the medium continues to evolve rapidly. But what does it truly take to create a successful podcast that captivates an audience?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Andrew Lisowski, Senior Software Engineer at Descript, and Justin Bennett, Engineer at Oxide, are seasoned podcasters and hosts of the Devtools FM podcast where they talk to industry leaders about developer tools. They shared insights on the evolving landscape of podcasting, highlighting the importance of having a sustainable workflow and maintaining consistency. Andrew and Justin believe a major key to podcasting is understanding your audience, their preferences, and how to keep them engaged. Throughout the episode, the conversation covers an array of topics, including the influence of developer tools, the resurgence of HTML-first web development, and the role of WebAssembly (Wasm) in shaping the future of the web. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Andrew and Justin talk to Robbie and Chuck about developer tools, the future of tech, and the world of podcasting in the tech space. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:55] - Introduction to Andrew and Justin.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:17] - A whiskey review: Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:13] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:57] - Andrew and Justin give tips and tricks for podcasting.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:45] - Careers that Andrew and Justin would choose if they weren’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:58] - Andrew and Justin take over Whiskey Web and Whatnot.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:32] - “I don’t actually think Git is good. It is a utility, and it is good enough for most cases.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:22] - “If there is a future for Webpack, it’s Rspack.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:46] - “The best frameworks, in my opinion, learn from what other folks are doing.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/hipstersmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devtools.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Devtools FM Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://antfu.me/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Anthony Fu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.unison-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Unison&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greatjonesdistillingco.com/whiskeys/straight-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mercurial-scm.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mercurial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Perforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://million.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Million JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aidenybai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aiden Bai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.lululemon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lululemon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bytedance.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ByteDance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rspack.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rspack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Descript &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://art19.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ART19&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">15efe3be-751d-462a-8c41-9b8a8d61f45c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lto61ybgt12ksdk3bb90mu1d.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Podcasts are a popular way to share knowledge, stories, and ideas in the tech space and the medium continues to evolve rapidly. But what does it truly take to create a successful podcast that captivates an audience?</p>
<p>
Andrew Lisowski, Senior Software Engineer at Descript, and Justin Bennett, Engineer at Oxide, are seasoned podcasters and hosts of the Devtools FM podcast where they talk to industry leaders about developer tools. They shared insights on the evolving landscape of podcasting, highlighting the importance of having a sustainable workflow and maintaining consistency. Andrew and Justin believe a major key to podcasting is understanding your audience, their preferences, and how to keep them engaged. Throughout the episode, the conversation covers an array of topics, including the influence of developer tools, the resurgence of HTML-first web development, and the role of WebAssembly (Wasm) in shaping the future of the web. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Andrew and Justin talk to Robbie and Chuck about developer tools, the future of tech, and the world of podcasting in the tech space. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:55] - Introduction to Andrew and Justin.
</li>
 <li>[03:17] - A whiskey review: Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[14:13] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[37:57] - Andrew and Justin give tips and tricks for podcasting.
</li>
  <li>[47:45] - Careers that Andrew and Justin would choose if they weren’t in tech.
</li>
  <li>[48:58] - Andrew and Justin take over Whiskey Web and Whatnot.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[20:32] - “I don’t actually think Git is good. It is a utility, and it is good enough for most cases.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/Zephraph" target="_blank">Justin Bennett</a></p>
<p>
[33:22] - “If there is a future for Webpack, it’s Rspack.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie" target="_blank">Andrew Lisowski</a></p>
<p>
[36:46] - “The best frameworks, in my opinion, learn from what other folks are doing.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/Zephraph" target="_blank">Justin Bennett</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie" target="_blank">Andrew Lisowski Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hipstersmoothie" target="_blank">Andrew Lisowski LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/Zephraph" target="_blank">Justin Bennett Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.devtools.fm/" target="_blank">Devtools FM Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">Bun</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jarredsumner.com/" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://antfu.me/" target="_blank">Anthony Fu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.unison-lang.org/" target="_blank">Unison</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://greatjonesdistillingco.com/whiskeys/straight-bourbon/" target="_blank">Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark Kentucky Straight Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mercurial-scm.org/" target="_blank">Mercurial</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.perforce.com/" target="_blank">Perforce</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://million.dev/" target="_blank">Million JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aidenybai.com/" target="_blank">Aiden Bai</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shop.lululemon.com/" target="_blank">Lululemon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bytedance.com/en/" target="_blank">ByteDance</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rspack.dev/" target="_blank">Rspack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://deno.com/" target="_blank">Deno</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.descript.com/" target="_blank">Descript </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://art19.com/" target="_blank">ART19</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxt.com/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Cracking the Podcasting Code with Andrew Lisowski and Justin Bennett</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lto61ybgt12ksdk3bb90mu1d/apf6i6hbvapfp8263mgijhye.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3952</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>119</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Podcasts are a popular way to share knowledge, stories, and ideas in the tech space and the medium continues to evolve rapidly. But what does it truly take to create a successful podcast that captivates an audience?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Andrew Lisowski, Senior Software Engineer at Descript, and Justin Bennett, Engineer at Oxide, are seasoned podcasters and hosts of the Devtools FM podcast where they talk to industry leaders about developer tools. They shared insights on the evolving landscape of podcasting, highlighting the importance of having a sustainable workflow and maintaining consistency. Andrew and Justin believe a major key to podcasting is understanding your audience, their preferences, and how to keep them engaged. Throughout the episode, the conversation covers an array of topics, including the influence of developer tools, the resurgence of HTML-first web development, and the role of WebAssembly (Wasm) in shaping the future of the web. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Andrew and Justin talk to Robbie and Chuck about developer tools, the future of tech, and the world of podcasting in the tech space. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:55] - Introduction to Andrew and Justin.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:17] - A whiskey review: Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:13] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:57] - Andrew and Justin give tips and tricks for podcasting.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:45] - Careers that Andrew and Justin would choose if they weren’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:58] - Andrew and Justin take over Whiskey Web and Whatnot.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:32] - “I don’t actually think Git is good. It is a utility, and it is good enough for most cases.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:22] - “If there is a future for Webpack, it’s Rspack.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:46] - “The best frameworks, in my opinion, learn from what other folks are doing.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/HipsterSmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/hipstersmoothie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Andrew Lisowski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Zephraph&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justin Bennett Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.devtools.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Devtools FM Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://antfu.me/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Anthony Fu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.unison-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Unison&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greatjonesdistillingco.com/whiskeys/straight-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Great Jones Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mercurial-scm.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mercurial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Perforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://million.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Million JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aidenybai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aiden Bai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.lululemon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lululemon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bytedance.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ByteDance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rspack.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rspack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.descript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Descript &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://art19.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ART19&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lto61ybgt12ksdk3bb90mu1d/okff5ivbfri1ofgrwe4sbz9i/transcoded-01KECKD1F227VQZHHEC3FEH6RQ-01KECKD1F2CD0D333EH9RH38ND_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Leveraging CSS, Web Design, and Gaming UI with Adam Argyle</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Adam Argyle, Chrome CSS Developer Advocate at Google, is not your typical CSS expert. He is big on education and hosts two podcasts that aim to bridge the gap and help developers embrace the challenges of CSS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Adam approaches CSS with a dose of humility, acknowledging that it&#39;s one of the most complex and least understood aspects of web development. He’s not just a CSS advocate, he is also a gamer at heart, and throughout the episode, he connects the dots between CSS and the gaming industry. Adam highlights an issue in game development - the oversight of UI design. He pointed out that most efforts are concentrated on the technical aspects, often leaving the player experience lacking. He even shared his vision for a specialized UI agency that focuses exclusively on enhancing user interfaces in the gaming world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Adam talks to Robbie and Chuck about leveraging CSS to improve your designs, the Tailwind vs vanilla CSS debate, and the challenges of building UI for games.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - Introduction to Adam Argyle.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:20] - A whiskey review: Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:55] - Adam talks about his upbringing.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:40] - Why CSS isn’t a programming language.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:22] - Hidden CSS features that add flair to your designs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:54] - Adam’s take on milk.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:47] - Adam, Chuck, and Robbie talk about games.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:54] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:35] - Adam plays the banjo.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:20] - If Adam wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19.03] - “Everybody is pitching and selling, and you either know how to do it or you don’t.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:09] - “Here’s my hot take about CSS, it’s the only programming language that delivers types, and it forces them at run time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:31] - “One of the most magical fairy dust things you can sprinkle on your website is View Transitions.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-at-css/id1702605487&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bad at CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thecode.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Code Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/en-us/products/rare-breed-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-colacompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.russellsreserve.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Russell’s Reserve &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usps.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;United States Postal Service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thewinespotonline.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Wine Spot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShopTalk Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.garthbrooks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Garth Brooks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rollingstones.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Rolling Stones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shakira.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shakira&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sineadoconnor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sinead O&#39;Connor &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferragamo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferragamo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://prototypejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prototype JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://scroll-driven-animations.style/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scroll-driven Animations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hasbropulse.com/collections/gi-joe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;G.I. Joe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pokemongolive.com/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pokemon Go&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://monsterhunternow.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Monster Hunter Now&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hyperspin-systems.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hyperspin Systems&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sarafi/id1347535020&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarafi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rust.facepunch.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://travisonline.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Travis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coldplay.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coldplay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam Deck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.asus.com/us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ASUS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zelda.nintendo.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://outerworlds.obsidian.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Outer Worlds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starfield&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesdagamestudios.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bethesda Game Studios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://active-vision.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Active Vision&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">96faf1d9-c8bb-45c2-8636-ba53ec13ba38</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2023 18:45:32 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/q7gkx52fonkuxd4o7znahlai.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Argyle, Chrome CSS Developer Advocate at Google, is not your typical CSS expert. He is big on education and hosts two podcasts that aim to bridge the gap and help developers embrace the challenges of CSS.</p>
<p>
Adam approaches CSS with a dose of humility, acknowledging that it's one of the most complex and least understood aspects of web development. He’s not just a CSS advocate, he is also a gamer at heart, and throughout the episode, he connects the dots between CSS and the gaming industry. Adam highlights an issue in game development - the oversight of UI design. He pointed out that most efforts are concentrated on the technical aspects, often leaving the player experience lacking. He even shared his vision for a specialized UI agency that focuses exclusively on enhancing user interfaces in the gaming world.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Adam talks to Robbie and Chuck about leveraging CSS to improve your designs, the Tailwind vs vanilla CSS debate, and the challenges of building UI for games.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:47] - Introduction to Adam Argyle.
</li>
 <li>[03:20] - A whiskey review: Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye.
</li>
  <li>[16:55] - Adam talks about his upbringing.
</li>
  <li>[19:40] - Why CSS isn’t a programming language.
</li>
  <li>[25:22] - Hidden CSS features that add flair to your designs.
</li>
  <li>[30:54] - Adam’s take on milk.
</li>
  <li>[33:47] - Adam, Chuck, and Robbie talk about games.
</li>
  <li>[37:54] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[53:35] - Adam plays the banjo.
</li>
  <li>[01:01:20] - If Adam wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19.03] - “Everybody is pitching and selling, and you either know how to do it or you don’t.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle" target="_blank">Adam Argyle</a></p>
<p>
[21:09] - “Here’s my hot take about CSS, it’s the only programming language that delivers types, and it forces them at run time.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle" target="_blank">Adam Argyle</a></p>
<p>
[26:31] - “One of the most magical fairy dust things you can sprinkle on your website is View Transitions.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle" target="_blank">Adam Argyle</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://nerdy.dev/" target="_blank">Adam Argyle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/argyleink" target="_blank">Adam Argyle Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle" target="_blank">Adam Argyle LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-at-css/id1702605487" target="_blank">Bad at CSS Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/" target="_blank">The CSS Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thecode.co/" target="_blank">The Code Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/en-us/products/rare-breed-rye/" target="_blank">Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coca-colacompany.com/" target="_blank">Coca-Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rccolainternational.com/" target="_blank">RC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepsi.com/" target="_blank">Pepsi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.russellsreserve.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Russell’s Reserve </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.usps.com/" target="_blank">United States Postal Service</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thewinespotonline.com/" target="_blank">The Wine Spot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">ShopTalk Show</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.garthbrooks.com/" target="_blank">Garth Brooks</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rollingstones.com/" target="_blank">The Rolling Stones</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shakira.com/home" target="_blank">Shakira</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sineadoconnor.com/" target="_blank">Sinead O'Connor </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ferragamo.com/" target="_blank">Ferragamo</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://prototypejs.org/" target="_blank">Prototype JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://scroll-driven-animations.style/" target="_blank">Scroll-driven Animations</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hasbropulse.com/collections/gi-joe" target="_blank">G.I. Joe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pokemongolive.com/?hl=en" target="_blank">Pokemon Go</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://monsterhunternow.com/en" target="_blank">Monster Hunter Now</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/us/" target="_blank">Nintendo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hyperspin-systems.com/" target="_blank">Hyperspin Systems</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sarafi/id1347535020" target="_blank">Sarafi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/" target="_blank">Mozilla Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rust.facepunch.com/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://travisonline.com/" target="_blank">Travis</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coldplay.com/" target="_blank">Coldplay</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/" target="_blank">Steam Deck</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.asus.com/us/" target="_blank">ASUS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo 4</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://outerworlds.obsidian.net/" target="_blank">The Outer Worlds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield" target="_blank">Starfield</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bethesdagamestudios.com/" target="_blank">Bethesda Game Studios</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank">Starlink</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://active-vision.com/" target="_blank">Active Vision</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Leveraging CSS, Web Design, and Gaming UI with Adam Argyle</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/q7gkx52fonkuxd4o7znahlai/w0rluna6yc32cjwx803q7xt7.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3967</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Adam Argyle, Chrome CSS Developer Advocate at Google, is not your typical CSS expert. He is big on education and hosts two podcasts that aim to bridge the gap and help developers embrace the challenges of CSS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Adam approaches CSS with a dose of humility, acknowledging that it&#39;s one of the most complex and least understood aspects of web development. He’s not just a CSS advocate, he is also a gamer at heart, and throughout the episode, he connects the dots between CSS and the gaming industry. Adam highlights an issue in game development - the oversight of UI design. He pointed out that most efforts are concentrated on the technical aspects, often leaving the player experience lacking. He even shared his vision for a specialized UI agency that focuses exclusively on enhancing user interfaces in the gaming world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Adam talks to Robbie and Chuck about leveraging CSS to improve your designs, the Tailwind vs vanilla CSS debate, and the challenges of building UI for games.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - Introduction to Adam Argyle.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:20] - A whiskey review: Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:55] - Adam talks about his upbringing.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:40] - Why CSS isn’t a programming language.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:22] - Hidden CSS features that add flair to your designs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:54] - Adam’s take on milk.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:47] - Adam, Chuck, and Robbie talk about games.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:54] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:35] - Adam plays the banjo.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:01:20] - If Adam wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19.03] - “Everybody is pitching and selling, and you either know how to do it or you don’t.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:09] - “Here’s my hot take about CSS, it’s the only programming language that delivers types, and it forces them at run time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:31] - “One of the most magical fairy dust things you can sprinkle on your website is View Transitions.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nerdy.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/argyleink&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamargyle&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Argyle LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-at-css/id1702605487&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bad at CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thecode.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Code Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wildturkeybourbon.com/en-us/products/rare-breed-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wild Turkey Rare Breed Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-colacompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.russellsreserve.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Russell’s Reserve &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usps.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;United States Postal Service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thewinespotonline.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Wine Spot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShopTalk Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.garthbrooks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Garth Brooks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rollingstones.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Rolling Stones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shakira.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shakira&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sineadoconnor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sinead O&#39;Connor &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferragamo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferragamo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://prototypejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prototype JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://scroll-driven-animations.style/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scroll-driven Animations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hasbropulse.com/collections/gi-joe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;G.I. Joe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/stawwcely71s7vgyhpqn93sw/thumbnail-stawwcely71s7vgyhpqn93sw.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/stawwcely71s7vgyhpqn93sw/thumbnail-stawwcely71s7vgyhpqn93sw.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/q7gkx52fonkuxd4o7znahlai/ehukyq2f5fox57cul50ejzs7/transcoded-01KECKE257XEEHTSY8B1A911C1-01KECKE2579X9TBEA2J5QZCBR2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Learning Angular, Leadership Opportunities, and Google Culture with Sarah Drasner</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The transition from coder to manager isn’t easy for developers who love the creative satisfaction and thrill of coding. But both sides of the fence have unique challenges.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sarah Drasner, Senior Director of Engineering, Web, Android, iOS, and Multiplatform Core Infrastructure at Google, didn’t seek out engineering leadership. Sarah admits that she sometimes misses the flow state of coding but has a new appreciation for management now that she is on the other side. She discusses the culture at Google, navigating the company’s tech stack, and how much she values working with a dedicated and hardworking team. Beyond her tech pursuits, Sarah shines a light on She Code Africa, a nonprofit organization she supports, empowering women in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Sarah talks to Robbie and Chuck about why she initially avoided Angular, the challenges of management, and the flow state she misses from coding. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Introduction to Sarah Drasner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:26] - A whiskey review: Brenne French Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[15:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[39:05] - What is going on with Angular.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:09] - Sarah’s experiences being a manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:10] - The career Sarah would choose if she wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:48] - “I like the idea of being explicit, but I appreciate when languages are a little more bulletproof.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[43:56] - “Dealing with change as a developer is the main reason why you use a framework.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[45:58] - “That’s the reason why so many senior devs go towards this ‘it depends’ way of thinking because we see many different implementations over time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahdrasner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.engmanagement.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Engineering Management for the Rest of Us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shecodeafrica.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;She Code Africa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Kolokodess&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ada Nduka Oyom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brennewhisky.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brenne French Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4ddb4f9a-ddc2-4f0c-95dd-f9843a21110e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/m84b1r6lwn40e5a1jkw35pqg.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The transition from coder to manager isn’t easy for developers who love the creative satisfaction and thrill of coding. But both sides of the fence have unique challenges.</p>
<p>
Sarah Drasner, Senior Director of Engineering, Web, Android, iOS, and Multiplatform Core Infrastructure at Google, didn’t seek out engineering leadership. Sarah admits that she sometimes misses the flow state of coding but has a new appreciation for management now that she is on the other side. She discusses the culture at Google, navigating the company’s tech stack, and how much she values working with a dedicated and hardworking team. Beyond her tech pursuits, Sarah shines a light on She Code Africa, a nonprofit organization she supports, empowering women in tech.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Sarah talks to Robbie and Chuck about why she initially avoided Angular, the challenges of management, and the flow state she misses from coding. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:01] - Introduction to Sarah Drasner.
</li>
 <li>[03:26] - A whiskey review: Brenne French Single Malt Whisky.
</li>
 <li>[15:00] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[39:05] - What is going on with Angular.
</li>
  <li>[47:09] - Sarah’s experiences being a manager.
</li>
  <li>[52:10] - The career Sarah would choose if she wasn’t in tech.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[22:48] - “I like the idea of being explicit, but I appreciate when languages are a little more bulletproof.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/sarah_edo" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner</a></p>
<p>
[43:56] - “Dealing with change as a developer is the main reason why you use a framework.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/sarah_edo" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner</a></p>
<p>
[45:58] - “That’s the reason why so many senior devs go towards this ‘it depends’ way of thinking because we see many different implementations over time.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/sarah_edo" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/sarah_edo" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahdrasner/" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.engmanagement.dev/" target="_blank">Engineering Management for the Rest of Us</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shecodeafrica.org/" target="_blank">She Code Africa</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/Kolokodess" target="_blank">Ada Nduka Oyom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brennewhisky.com/" target="_blank">Brenne French Single Malt Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.craigellachie.com/" target="_blank">Craigellachie Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://michters.com/us1-american-whiskey/" target="_blank">Michter’s American</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentuckypeerless.com/" target="_blank">Peerless Distilling Co</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Willett Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/" target="_blank">Angel’s Envy Bourbons</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeydelbac.com/" target="_blank">Whiskey Del Bac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mountaindew.com/" target="_blank">Mountain Dew</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dev.to/ryansolid" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxt.com/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/learn/foundations/about-nextjs/what-is-nextjs" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://css-tricks.com/" target="_blank">CSS-Tricks</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev/" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPD_bxCRGpmmeQcbe2kpPaA" target="_blank">First We Feast</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
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<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Learning Angular, Leadership Opportunities, and Google Culture with Sarah Drasner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/m84b1r6lwn40e5a1jkw35pqg/deg6t0ai1g6y41poovimkrhe.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3654</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>117</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The transition from coder to manager isn’t easy for developers who love the creative satisfaction and thrill of coding. But both sides of the fence have unique challenges.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Sarah Drasner, Senior Director of Engineering, Web, Android, iOS, and Multiplatform Core Infrastructure at Google, didn’t seek out engineering leadership. Sarah admits that she sometimes misses the flow state of coding but has a new appreciation for management now that she is on the other side. She discusses the culture at Google, navigating the company’s tech stack, and how much she values working with a dedicated and hardworking team. Beyond her tech pursuits, Sarah shines a light on She Code Africa, a nonprofit organization she supports, empowering women in tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Sarah talks to Robbie and Chuck about why she initially avoided Angular, the challenges of management, and the flow state she misses from coding. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Introduction to Sarah Drasner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:26] - A whiskey review: Brenne French Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[15:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[39:05] - What is going on with Angular.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:09] - Sarah’s experiences being a manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:10] - The career Sarah would choose if she wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:48] - “I like the idea of being explicit, but I appreciate when languages are a little more bulletproof.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[43:56] - “Dealing with change as a developer is the main reason why you use a framework.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[45:58] - “That’s the reason why so many senior devs go towards this ‘it depends’ way of thinking because we see many different implementations over time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sarah_edo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahdrasner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.engmanagement.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Engineering Management for the Rest of Us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shecodeafrica.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;She Code Africa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/Kolokodess&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ada Nduka Oyom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brennewhisky.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brenne French Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dev.to/ryansolid&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/learn/foundations/about-nextjs/what-is-nextjs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://css-tricks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CSS-Tricks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPD_bxCRGpmmeQcbe2kpPaA&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;First We Feast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/m84b1r6lwn40e5a1jkw35pqg/x589elsipjygbvj3m4mktq57/transcoded-01KECKE0NS1EWFS24ME9537DRP-01KECKE0NSQKS1ZNJFADV13373_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Engineering Management vs Individual Contributor, Travel, and Inflation with Taylor Poindexter</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Being a great engineer doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a great engineering manager. So how do you know if a leadership role is right for you? Taylor Poindexter, Software Engineering Manager at Spotify, believes you have to try before you can decide and also know when to walk away. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Taylor started out as a tech lead. She knew she wanted to help people advance their careers, and that passion led her to management. She emphasizes that emotional intelligence and patience are a major part of the role and the signs of an effective leader because people are complex. She talks about some of her personal strengths as a leader and the importance of motivating your team, giving feedback, and taking uncomfortable criticism. Managing people isn’t an easy job, and Taylor’s advice for engineers who realize they don’t love leadership is to walk away before creating an unhappy work culture for your team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about tech hot takes, building effective engineering cultures, and the challenges and rewards of being an engineering manager.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:50] - Introduction to Taylor Poindexter.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - A whiskey review: Barrel Private Release DJX2.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:19] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:32] - Taylor talks about her skills as an engineer and manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:26] - Taylor’s advice for a developer who isn’t sure they want to be a manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:41] - Types of employees managed by Taylor.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:01] - Taylor unpacks her tweet about food spending.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:15] - Chuck, Robbie, and Taylor talk about the subscription model.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:10] - If Taylor wasn’t in tech, what career would she choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:32] - Chuck talks about his trip to France.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:32] - “I think I’m really good at motivating people. I think partially because, at the end of the day, they know I’m really honest and trustworthy.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:19] - “The constant iteration of improving things makes the team a good place.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:03] - “I realized that it was so important to me to give somebody else an enhanced career in whatever way I could.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylorspoindexter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/womanwithwhiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackcodecollective.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Black Code Collective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rose Dining Saloon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iwharper.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;I.W. Harper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f0f6612d-2e4a-45b1-bd44-ee7682eb4433</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2023 12:31:06 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xa0kwevggfit8hetycusgztx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a great engineer doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a great engineering manager. So how do you know if a leadership role is right for you? Taylor Poindexter, Software Engineering Manager at Spotify, believes you have to try before you can decide and also know when to walk away. </p>
<p>
Taylor started out as a tech lead. She knew she wanted to help people advance their careers, and that passion led her to management. She emphasizes that emotional intelligence and patience are a major part of the role and the signs of an effective leader because people are complex. She talks about some of her personal strengths as a leader and the importance of motivating your team, giving feedback, and taking uncomfortable criticism. Managing people isn’t an easy job, and Taylor’s advice for engineers who realize they don’t love leadership is to walk away before creating an unhappy work culture for your team.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about tech hot takes, building effective engineering cultures, and the challenges and rewards of being an engineering manager.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:50] - Introduction to Taylor Poindexter.
</li>
 <li>[02:38] - A whiskey review: Barrel Private Release DJX2.
</li>
  <li>[12:19] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[18:32] - Taylor talks about her skills as an engineer and manager.
</li>
  <li>[22:26] - Taylor’s advice for a developer who isn’t sure they want to be a manager.
</li>
  <li>[27:41] - Types of employees managed by Taylor.
</li>
  <li>[35:01] - Taylor unpacks her tweet about food spending.
</li>
  <li>[42:15] - Chuck, Robbie, and Taylor talk about the subscription model.
</li>
  <li>[45:10] - If Taylor wasn’t in tech, what career would she choose?
</li>
  <li>[48:32] - Chuck talks about his trip to France.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:32] - “I think I’m really good at motivating people. I think partially because, at the end of the day, they know I’m really honest and trustworthy.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/engineering_bae" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter</a></p>
<p>
[20:19] - “The constant iteration of improving things makes the team a good place.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/engineering_bae" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter</a></p>
<p>
[23:03] - “I realized that it was so important to me to give somebody else an enhanced career in whatever way I could.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/engineering_bae" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.poindexter.dev/" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylorspoindexter/" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/engineering_bae" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/womanwithwhiskey/" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://blackcodecollective.com/" target="_blank">Black Code Collective</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barcart.barrellbourbon.com/products/barrell-whiskey-private-release-djx2-finished-in-a-ruby-port-barrel" target="_blank">Barrell Private Release DJX2</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jackrosediningsaloon.com/" target="_blank">Jack Rose Dining Saloon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.iwharper.com/" target="_blank">I.W. Harper</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://laravel.com/" target="_blank">Laravel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disaronno.com/" target="_blank">Disaronno</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.suntory.com/" target="_blank">Suntory</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en" target="_blank">Jim Beam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">Bun</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.virginia.edu/" target="_blank">University of Virginia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vt.edu/" target="_blank">Virginia Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.aperol.com/" target="_blank">Aperol</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/" target="_blank">Hammer &amp; Nails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://cleanmymac.com/" target="_blank">CleanMyMac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.verizon.com/" target="_blank">Verizon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/" target="_blank">Adobe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.blockbuster.com/" target="_blank">Blockbuster</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Engineering Management vs Individual Contributor, Travel, and Inflation with Taylor Poindexter</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xa0kwevggfit8hetycusgztx/tuts92if2st8pdc3o2fd1i6m.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3536</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Being a great engineer doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a great engineering manager. So how do you know if a leadership role is right for you? Taylor Poindexter, Software Engineering Manager at Spotify, believes you have to try before you can decide and also know when to walk away. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Taylor started out as a tech lead. She knew she wanted to help people advance their careers, and that passion led her to management. She emphasizes that emotional intelligence and patience are a major part of the role and the signs of an effective leader because people are complex. She talks about some of her personal strengths as a leader and the importance of motivating your team, giving feedback, and taking uncomfortable criticism. Managing people isn’t an easy job, and Taylor’s advice for engineers who realize they don’t love leadership is to walk away before creating an unhappy work culture for your team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about tech hot takes, building effective engineering cultures, and the challenges and rewards of being an engineering manager.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:50] - Introduction to Taylor Poindexter.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:38] - A whiskey review: Barrel Private Release DJX2.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:19] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:32] - Taylor talks about her skills as an engineer and manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:26] - Taylor’s advice for a developer who isn’t sure they want to be a manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:41] - Types of employees managed by Taylor.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:01] - Taylor unpacks her tweet about food spending.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:15] - Chuck, Robbie, and Taylor talk about the subscription model.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:10] - If Taylor wasn’t in tech, what career would she choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:32] - Chuck talks about his trip to France.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:32] - “I think I’m really good at motivating people. I think partially because, at the end of the day, they know I’m really honest and trustworthy.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:19] - “The constant iteration of improving things makes the team a good place.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:03] - “I realized that it was so important to me to give somebody else an enhanced career in whatever way I could.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylorspoindexter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/engineering_bae&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/womanwithwhiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackcodecollective.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Black Code Collective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barcart.barrellbourbon.com/products/barrell-whiskey-private-release-djx2-finished-in-a-ruby-port-barrel&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Private Release DJX2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jackrosediningsaloon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rose Dining Saloon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iwharper.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;I.W. Harper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://laravel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laravel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disaronno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disaronno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.suntory.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Suntory&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.virginia.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;University of Virginia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.aperol.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aperol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hammerandnailsgrooming.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hammer &amp;amp; Nails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cleanmymac.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CleanMyMac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.verizon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Verizon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.blockbuster.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Blockbuster&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/s7sh9xcsuwotcc744vkt0tzc/thumbnail-s7sh9xcsuwotcc744vkt0tzc.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/s7sh9xcsuwotcc744vkt0tzc/thumbnail-s7sh9xcsuwotcc744vkt0tzc.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xa0kwevggfit8hetycusgztx/xx0upl274w9257yae9r3988o/transcoded-01KECKE0B38JHWVPCV1DA1FXA7-01KECKE0B3Z1ESN0HCDTPJX9ZG_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Talk, Social Media Use, and Netflix with The Primeagen</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React&#39;s evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:06] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:48] - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:40] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:16] - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[56:05] - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01:52] - The Primeagen’s take on pornography.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:17:36] - The influence of The Primeagen&#39;s father&#39;s passing. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:21:15] - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeTime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkprime.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spiritsoffrenchlick.com/bourbon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stitzelwellerdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitzel-Weller Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blaircandy.com/bubbalicious/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bubbalicious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;W.L. Weller Antique&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oracle.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HashiCorp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dhh.dk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Heinemeier Hansson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/BufferingWarren&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warren Buffering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.voodoodoughnut.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Voodoo Doughnut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dvorak-keyboard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Dvorak Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">443423be-1bf4-43dd-91fd-df788aed9437</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/es1xklx8ompugie7x4dddixe.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother. </p>
<p>
Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React's evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.</p>
<p>
In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:06] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
</li>
 <li>[03:48] - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon. 
</li>
 <li>[13:40] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[44:16] - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use.
</li>
 <li>[56:05] - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech.
</li>
 <li>[01:01:52] - The Primeagen’s take on pornography.
</li>
  <li>[01:17:36] - The influence of The Primeagen's father's passing. 
</li>
  <li>[01:21:15] - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p>
[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p>
[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en" target="_blank">The Primeagen Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeTime</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://drinkprime.com/" target="_blank">Prime</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.spiritsoffrenchlick.com/bourbon" target="_blank">Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.stitzelwellerdistillery.com/" target="_blank">Stitzel-Weller Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html" target="_blank">Pappy Van Winkle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://blaircandy.com/bubbalicious/" target="_blank">Bubbalicious</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html" target="_blank">W.L. Weller Antique</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oracle.com/" target="_blank">Oracle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hashicorp.com/" target="_blank">HashiCorp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dhh.dk/" target="_blank">David Heinemeier Hansson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/BufferingWarren" target="_blank">Warren Buffering</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.voodoodoughnut.com/" target="_blank">Voodoo Doughnut</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">Bun</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dvorak-keyboard.com/" target="_blank">The Dvorak Keyboard</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stadia.google.com/" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Talk, Social Media Use, and Netflix with The Primeagen</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/es1xklx8ompugie7x4dddixe/zgatofo5ecuyg0ttl5mc91c4.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>5746</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The Primeagen is known for embracing controversy. He returns to the podcast for a conversation on a range of topics like masculinity, social media, and pornography. He also opens up about his father’s passing and his journey growing up with a single mother. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Michael Paulson aka The Primeagen, Software Engineer at Netflix, is an influential figure in the tech community. He shares his thoughts on React&#39;s evolution and the impact it has on web applications and offers a behind-the-scenes look at the inner workings of Netflix and the problem-solving initiatives he led. He also discusses social media use and explains how he leverages platforms like Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube to express his thoughts while fostering an engaging online community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on frameworks like React, the perils of pornography, and how he is saving Netflix millions of dollars.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:06] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:48] - A whiskey review - Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:40] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:16] - The Primeagen talks about limiting social media use.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[56:05] - What The Primeagen would do if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01:52] - The Primeagen’s take on pornography.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:17:36] - The influence of The Primeagen&#39;s father&#39;s passing. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:21:15] - How The Primeagen saved Netflix millions of dollars.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:50] - “It feels like React, at this point, is in this state where it’s the industry standard, but I don’t feel like people are happy with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:45] - “When people start relying on you as some sort of open source provider, you do still have some level of obligation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:26] - “The thing about Bun is that I really like it. It’s just not 1.0.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@ThePrimeTimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeTime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkprime.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prime&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.spiritsoffrenchlick.com/bourbon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirits of French Lick William Dalton Single Barrel Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stitzelwellerdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitzel-Weller Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blaircandy.com/bubbalicious/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bubbalicious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;W.L. Weller Antique&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oracle.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oracle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hashicorp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HashiCorp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dhh.dk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Heinemeier Hansson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/BufferingWarren&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warren Buffering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.voodoodoughnut.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Voodoo Doughnut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dvorak-keyboard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Dvorak Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz/thumbnail-g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz/thumbnail-g0vb3j5s1pymof8ghqlzzioz.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/es1xklx8ompugie7x4dddixe/ms2c1on93zkaeav7azsrvsyi/transcoded-01KECKEANDC5PADMWE7TXRG7BW-01KECKEAND6CJ7CXMPTE88QXR8_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Social media platforms have become our virtual playgrounds, and the choices we make in this realm can have profound impacts on our lives. Are we sacrificing our privacy for the sake of convenience&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jack Rhysider, Creator of the Darknet Diaries podcast, brings an interesting perspective on the world of online communities, privacy concerns, and the delicate balance between convenience and safeguarding personal data. He blends his creativity and knack for storytelling with his expertise in digital security to report some of the fascinating, and sometimes unsettling, stories from the dark corners of the internet. Jack shares his thoughts on whether it’s harmful for people to flock to online communities where everyone is like them. He also delves into his opinions on Twitter and the privacy issues that arise from using the platform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience with various programming languages, the dynamic world of social media, and the perpetual tug-of-war between privacy and convenience in the digital age. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - Introduction to Jack Rhysider.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:23] - A whiskey review: Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:11] - Jack&#39;s experience as a craps dealer in Las Vegas.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[20:41] - Jack discusses TunnelsUp and programming in Perl.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:38] - Jack’s favorite story he has told so far.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:39] - Music genres that Jack enjoys.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - How Jack feels about the current state of Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:24] - Jack talks about obtaining privacy online.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:01] - If Jack didn’t have his podcast, what would he be doing?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[02:48] - “That’s my favorite when truth is stranger than fiction.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:11] - “I used to have the motto, ‘Windows at work, Apple at home, and Linux everywhere else.’” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:57] - “Always it’s been, I want those people that can’t tell their story, I want the story that’s never been told, I want that secret stuff.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jackrhysider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Darknet Diaries &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tunnelsup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TunnelsUp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/45/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ep45: Xbox Underground&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stellum.com/thelonecypress&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://defcon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Defcon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirits &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perl.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Perl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby on Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marvel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marvel &lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bluesky Social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joinmastodon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grapheneos.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GrapheneOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/NaomiBrockwellTV/videos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NBTV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mysudo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MySudo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.strava.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Strava&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8f1122b6-d7cf-46ed-800c-921770614ff4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/eyfap7dvbag1kc72sceuut87.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media platforms have become our virtual playgrounds, and the choices we make in this realm can have profound impacts on our lives. Are we sacrificing our privacy for the sake of convenience</p>
<p>
Jack Rhysider, Creator of the Darknet Diaries podcast, brings an interesting perspective on the world of online communities, privacy concerns, and the delicate balance between convenience and safeguarding personal data. He blends his creativity and knack for storytelling with his expertise in digital security to report some of the fascinating, and sometimes unsettling, stories from the dark corners of the internet. Jack shares his thoughts on whether it’s harmful for people to flock to online communities where everyone is like them. He also delves into his opinions on Twitter and the privacy issues that arise from using the platform.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience with various programming languages, the dynamic world of social media, and the perpetual tug-of-war between privacy and convenience in the digital age. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:27] - Introduction to Jack Rhysider.
</li>
 <li>[03:23] - A whiskey review: Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress.
</li>
 <li>[11:11] - Jack's experience as a craps dealer in Las Vegas.
</li>
 <li>[20:41] - Jack discusses TunnelsUp and programming in Perl.
</li>
  <li>[28:38] - Jack’s favorite story he has told so far.
</li>
  <li>[34:39] - Music genres that Jack enjoys.
</li>
  <li>[42:40] - How Jack feels about the current state of Twitter.
</li>
  <li>[46:24] - Jack talks about obtaining privacy online.
</li>
  <li>[55:01] - If Jack didn’t have his podcast, what would he be doing?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[02:48] - “That’s my favorite when truth is stranger than fiction.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/" target="_blank">Jack Rhysider</a></p>
<p>
[23:11] - “I used to have the motto, ‘Windows at work, Apple at home, and Linux everywhere else.’” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/" target="_blank">Jack Rhysider</a></p>
<p>
[32:57] - “Always it’s been, I want those people that can’t tell their story, I want the story that’s never been told, I want that secret stuff.” ~<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/" target="_blank"> Jack Rhysider</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/" target="_blank">Jack Rhysider LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jackrhysider" target="_blank">Jack Rhysider Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/" target="_blank">Darknet Diaries </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tunnelsup.com/" target="_blank">TunnelsUp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/45/" target="_blank">Ep45: Xbox Underground</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.stellum.com/thelonecypress" target="_blank">Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://defcon.org/" target="_blank">Defcon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirits </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.perl.org/" target="_blank">Perl</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">Ruby on Rails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/" target="_blank">The Mandalorian</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/" target="_blank">Marvel </a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/en-US" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bsky.app/" target="_blank">Bluesky Social</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://joinmastodon.org/" target="_blank">Mastodon </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://grapheneos.org/" target="_blank">GrapheneOS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/NaomiBrockwellTV/videos" target="_blank">NBTV</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mysudo.com/" target="_blank">MySudo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.strava.com/" target="_blank">Strava</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/eyfap7dvbag1kc72sceuut87/t4u0chm53ciawpb8ch45jn6d.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3693</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Social media platforms have become our virtual playgrounds, and the choices we make in this realm can have profound impacts on our lives. Are we sacrificing our privacy for the sake of convenience&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jack Rhysider, Creator of the Darknet Diaries podcast, brings an interesting perspective on the world of online communities, privacy concerns, and the delicate balance between convenience and safeguarding personal data. He blends his creativity and knack for storytelling with his expertise in digital security to report some of the fascinating, and sometimes unsettling, stories from the dark corners of the internet. Jack shares his thoughts on whether it’s harmful for people to flock to online communities where everyone is like them. He also delves into his opinions on Twitter and the privacy issues that arise from using the platform.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience with various programming languages, the dynamic world of social media, and the perpetual tug-of-war between privacy and convenience in the digital age. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - Introduction to Jack Rhysider.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:23] - A whiskey review: Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:11] - Jack&#39;s experience as a craps dealer in Las Vegas.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[20:41] - Jack discusses TunnelsUp and programming in Perl.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:38] - Jack’s favorite story he has told so far.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:39] - Music genres that Jack enjoys.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - How Jack feels about the current state of Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:24] - Jack talks about obtaining privacy online.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:01] - If Jack didn’t have his podcast, what would he be doing?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[02:48] - “That’s my favorite when truth is stranger than fiction.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:11] - “I used to have the motto, ‘Windows at work, Apple at home, and Linux everywhere else.’” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:57] - “Always it’s been, I want those people that can’t tell their story, I want the story that’s never been told, I want that secret stuff.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jack Rhysider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-rhysider-02922a167/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jackrhysider&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Rhysider Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Darknet Diaries &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tunnelsup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TunnelsUp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/45/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ep45: Xbox Underground&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stellum.com/thelonecypress&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stellum Rye the Lone Cypress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://defcon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Defcon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirits &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.perl.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Perl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby on Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marvel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marvel &lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bluesky Social&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joinmastodon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grapheneos.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GrapheneOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/NaomiBrockwellTV/videos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NBTV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mysudo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MySudo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.strava.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Strava&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/sponr71a7j08q8v94sxux0ln/thumbnail-sponr71a7j08q8v94sxux0ln.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/sponr71a7j08q8v94sxux0ln/thumbnail-sponr71a7j08q8v94sxux0ln.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/eyfap7dvbag1kc72sceuut87/c73psqb9vjnl6vrny2ft7e5w/transcoded-01KECKE2WHTBYEMGDMRPPB4JGF-01KECKE2WHG6Q89GPP10K4W774_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/eyfap7dvbag1kc72sceuut87.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Self-Taught Engineering, Boot Camps, and Veganism with Welch Canavan</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Some engineers have a linear path to their careers, but most of them take unconventional routes to become a developer. For Welch Canavan, Principal Engineer II at Stitch Fix, his journey into coding was a complete accident. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Welch was thrown into coding after the entire senior team above him left the company. He had two choices, sink or swim. With very little coding experience, he decided to tackle the problem-solving on his own and pick up the pieces that the senior team left. That experience propelled him into his career today. According to Welch, once you are motivated enough to learn, you might not need to invest in a boot camp. He also touches on some important aspects of tech like the complexities of maintaining state in URLs and highlights the innovative solutions by T3 stack.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Welch talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey into becoming a self-taught engineer, his responsibilities at Stitch Fix, and how he quit veganism after 20 years.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Introduction to Welch Canavan.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey review: Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:11] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] - Self-taught web development.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:46] - Chuck, Robbie, and Welch talk about the current state of boot camps.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:59] - Welch’s current position at Stitch Fix.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:35] - Why Welch is no longer a vegan after 20 years.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:20] - Welch’s hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:36] - What career would Welch pursue if he wasn’t in tech?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:43] - Projects Welch is currently interested in.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:05] - “I have been making websites as a hobby essentially since I was in middle school.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:21] - “I kind of got a weird amount into my career without learning much about code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:56] - “I really am a big believer that the only worth in a progressively more senior engineer is their ability to teach other people.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.welchcanavan.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stitchfix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitch Fix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ritualzeroproof.com/products/ritual-whiskey-alternative&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fresca.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fresca&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sony.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fedoraproject.org/coreos/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Core OS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jensimmons.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jen Simmons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shop Talk Radio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.panasonic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Panasonic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby of Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">036fe5bd-3000-4f51-8433-d43047cc6557</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/t8lc3bvv033abyrv1oamabrv.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some engineers have a linear path to their careers, but most of them take unconventional routes to become a developer. For Welch Canavan, Principal Engineer II at Stitch Fix, his journey into coding was a complete accident. </p>
<p>
Welch was thrown into coding after the entire senior team above him left the company. He had two choices, sink or swim. With very little coding experience, he decided to tackle the problem-solving on his own and pick up the pieces that the senior team left. That experience propelled him into his career today. According to Welch, once you are motivated enough to learn, you might not need to invest in a boot camp. He also touches on some important aspects of tech like the complexities of maintaining state in URLs and highlights the innovative solutions by T3 stack.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Welch talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey into becoming a self-taught engineer, his responsibilities at Stitch Fix, and how he quit veganism after 20 years.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:11] - Introduction to Welch Canavan.
</li>
 <li>[02:21] - A whiskey review: Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative.
</li>
 <li>[07:11] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[11:26] - Self-taught web development.
</li>
  <li>[20:46] - Chuck, Robbie, and Welch talk about the current state of boot camps.
</li>
  <li>[23:59] - Welch’s current position at Stitch Fix.
</li>
  <li>[32:35] - Why Welch is no longer a vegan after 20 years.
</li>
  <li>[38:20] - Welch’s hobbies.
</li>
  <li>[39:36] - What career would Welch pursue if he wasn’t in tech?
</li>
  <li>[42:43] - Projects Welch is currently interested in.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[13:05] - “I have been making websites as a hobby essentially since I was in middle school.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/" target="_blank">Welch Canavan</a></p>
<p>
[24:21] - “I kind of got a weird amount into my career without learning much about code.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/" target="_blank">Welch Canavan</a></p>
<p>
[29:56] - “I really am a big believer that the only worth in a progressively more senior engineer is their ability to teach other people.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/" target="_blank">Welch Canavan</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.welchcanavan.com/" target="_blank">Welch Canavan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/" target="_blank">Welch Canavan LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.stitchfix.com/" target="_blank">Stitch Fix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ritualzeroproof.com/products/ritual-whiskey-alternative" target="_blank">Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fresca.com/" target="_blank">Fresca</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sony.com/" target="_blank">Sony</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/coreos/" target="_blank">Core OS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jensimmons.com/" target="_blank">Jen Simmons</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">Shop Talk Radio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Mozilla Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shop.panasonic.com/" target="_blank">Panasonic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">Ruby of Rails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.djangoproject.com/" target="_blank">Django</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Self-Taught Engineering, Boot Camps, and Veganism with Welch Canavan</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/t8lc3bvv033abyrv1oamabrv/x0unwaomwujbq63gyjxvv1sg.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2980</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Some engineers have a linear path to their careers, but most of them take unconventional routes to become a developer. For Welch Canavan, Principal Engineer II at Stitch Fix, his journey into coding was a complete accident. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Welch was thrown into coding after the entire senior team above him left the company. He had two choices, sink or swim. With very little coding experience, he decided to tackle the problem-solving on his own and pick up the pieces that the senior team left. That experience propelled him into his career today. According to Welch, once you are motivated enough to learn, you might not need to invest in a boot camp. He also touches on some important aspects of tech like the complexities of maintaining state in URLs and highlights the innovative solutions by T3 stack.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Welch talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey into becoming a self-taught engineer, his responsibilities at Stitch Fix, and how he quit veganism after 20 years.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Introduction to Welch Canavan.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey review: Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:11] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] - Self-taught web development.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:46] - Chuck, Robbie, and Welch talk about the current state of boot camps.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:59] - Welch’s current position at Stitch Fix.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:35] - Why Welch is no longer a vegan after 20 years.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:20] - Welch’s hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:36] - What career would Welch pursue if he wasn’t in tech?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:43] - Projects Welch is currently interested in.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:05] - “I have been making websites as a hobby essentially since I was in middle school.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:21] - “I kind of got a weird amount into my career without learning much about code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:56] - “I really am a big believer that the only worth in a progressively more senior engineer is their ability to teach other people.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.welchcanavan.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/welchcanavan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Welch Canavan LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stitchfix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitch Fix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ritualzeroproof.com/products/ritual-whiskey-alternative&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ritual Zero Proof Whiskey Alternative&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fresca.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fresca&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sony.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fedoraproject.org/coreos/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Core OS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jensimmons.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jen Simmons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shop Talk Radio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.panasonic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Panasonic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby of Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.djangoproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Django&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/itst6e6ts0zu6ne7wio91tf9/thumbnail-itst6e6ts0zu6ne7wio91tf9.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/itst6e6ts0zu6ne7wio91tf9/thumbnail-itst6e6ts0zu6ne7wio91tf9.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/t8lc3bvv033abyrv1oamabrv/tct7uvxg5a6pmu4ampboo186/transcoded-01KECKDXEN69VG3NW5B834RQG4-01KECKDXENEVCCFS90BCZ657BQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Framework Wars, Certifications, and Cincinnati Chili with Dr. Kate Holterhoff</title><description>&lt;p&gt;As the tech industry advances at breakneck speed, traditional university programs are struggling to keep pace. Outdated course content and failure to adapt are encouraging developers to go the untraditional route. Can certifications carry the weight of tech education?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dr. Kate Holterhoff, Analyst at RedMonk, is an educator championing certifications in the tech space. Her background in academia, including teaching stints at institutions like Carnegie Mellon and Georgia Tech gave her a wealth of insights on what is best for the future of tech education. Kate sheds light on the challenges faced by tech education, emphasizing the role of community-driven learning, and exploring the impact of certifications on the modern job market. She also explores the contrast between the knowledge gained in traditional universities and the skills demanded by the tech industry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Dr. Holterhoff talks to Chuck and Robbie about her thoughts on popular X (Twitter) debates, the shifting landscape of tech education, and the role of certifications in developer education. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:43] - Introduction to Dr. Kate Holterhoff.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:46] - A whiskey review: Hirsch Horizon Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:08] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[20:30] - The next chapter for SPAs after the framework wars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:15] - Certifications in the tech industry.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:45] - Kate, Chuck, and Robbie talk about RenderATL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:44] - Chuck and Kate talk about restaurants in Cincinnati. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:41] - “React isn’t going anywhere. So if what you’re worried about is a job, React is a good place to go.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:58] - “That’s what always comes up when I think about AI. Everyone has got a chatbot now.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:02] - “Folks with CS degrees, information science degrees. They actually have to upskill themselves after they get that degree.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kateholterhoff.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/KateHolterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redmonk.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedMonk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hirschwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hirsch Horizon Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jm.linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mastodon.social/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.homedepot.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Home Depot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gatech.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Georgia Institue of Technology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/ipad/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gus’s Fried Chicken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redphonebooth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Phone Booth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://goldstarchili.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gold Star Chili&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.skylinechili.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyline Chili&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.riverfrontpizzasportsbar.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Riverfront Pizza &amp;amp; Sports Bar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7330cc62-1658-499f-9bbf-51a8c8a247f0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/x56yldp0id67lg5l8nkkaoe2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the tech industry advances at breakneck speed, traditional university programs are struggling to keep pace. Outdated course content and failure to adapt are encouraging developers to go the untraditional route. Can certifications carry the weight of tech education?</p>
<p>
Dr. Kate Holterhoff, Analyst at RedMonk, is an educator championing certifications in the tech space. Her background in academia, including teaching stints at institutions like Carnegie Mellon and Georgia Tech gave her a wealth of insights on what is best for the future of tech education. Kate sheds light on the challenges faced by tech education, emphasizing the role of community-driven learning, and exploring the impact of certifications on the modern job market. She also explores the contrast between the knowledge gained in traditional universities and the skills demanded by the tech industry.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Dr. Holterhoff talks to Chuck and Robbie about her thoughts on popular X (Twitter) debates, the shifting landscape of tech education, and the role of certifications in developer education. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:43] - Introduction to Dr. Kate Holterhoff.
</li>
 <li>[02:46] - A whiskey review: Hirsch Horizon Bourbon.
</li>
 <li>[09:08] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[20:30] - The next chapter for SPAs after the framework wars.
</li>
  <li>[31:15] - Certifications in the tech industry.
</li>
  <li>[50:45] - Kate, Chuck, and Robbie talk about RenderATL.
</li>
  <li>[54:44] - Chuck and Kate talk about restaurants in Cincinnati. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[21:41] - “React isn’t going anywhere. So if what you’re worried about is a job, React is a good place to go.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff</a></p>
<p>
[28:58] - “That’s what always comes up when I think about AI. Everyone has got a chatbot now.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff</a></p>
<p>
[35:02] - “Folks with CS degrees, information science degrees. They actually have to upskill themselves after they get that degree.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.kateholterhoff.com/" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/KateHolterhoff" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff" target="_blank">Dr. Kate Holterhoff LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redmonk.com/" target="_blank">RedMonk</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hirschwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Hirsch Horizon Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jm.linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bsky.app/" target="_blank">Bluesky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/" target="_blank">Mastodon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" target="_blank">Reddit </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bing.com/" target="_blank">Bing</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.homedepot.com/" target="_blank">Home Depot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/" target="_blank">Ruby</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank">AWS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gatech.edu/" target="_blank">Georgia Institue of Technology</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/ipad/" target="_blank">iPad</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/kvlly" target="_blank">Kelly Vaughn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/" target="_blank">Gus’s Fried Chicken</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redphonebooth.com/" target="_blank">Red Phone Booth</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://goldstarchili.com/" target="_blank">Gold Star Chili</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.skylinechili.com/" target="_blank">Skyline Chili</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.riverfrontpizzasportsbar.com/" target="_blank">Riverfront Pizza &amp; Sports Bar</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Framework Wars, Certifications, and Cincinnati Chili with Dr. Kate Holterhoff</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/x56yldp0id67lg5l8nkkaoe2/opyeijxdxpewf41dda9odhqj.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3620</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;As the tech industry advances at breakneck speed, traditional university programs are struggling to keep pace. Outdated course content and failure to adapt are encouraging developers to go the untraditional route. Can certifications carry the weight of tech education?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dr. Kate Holterhoff, Analyst at RedMonk, is an educator championing certifications in the tech space. Her background in academia, including teaching stints at institutions like Carnegie Mellon and Georgia Tech gave her a wealth of insights on what is best for the future of tech education. Kate sheds light on the challenges faced by tech education, emphasizing the role of community-driven learning, and exploring the impact of certifications on the modern job market. She also explores the contrast between the knowledge gained in traditional universities and the skills demanded by the tech industry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Dr. Holterhoff talks to Chuck and Robbie about her thoughts on popular X (Twitter) debates, the shifting landscape of tech education, and the role of certifications in developer education. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:43] - Introduction to Dr. Kate Holterhoff.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:46] - A whiskey review: Hirsch Horizon Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:08] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[20:30] - The next chapter for SPAs after the framework wars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:15] - Certifications in the tech industry.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:45] - Kate, Chuck, and Robbie talk about RenderATL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:44] - Chuck and Kate talk about restaurants in Cincinnati. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:41] - “React isn’t going anywhere. So if what you’re worried about is a job, React is a good place to go.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:58] - “That’s what always comes up when I think about AI. Everyone has got a chatbot now.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:02] - “Folks with CS degrees, information science degrees. They actually have to upskill themselves after they get that degree.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kateholterhoff.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/KateHolterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateholterhoff&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr. Kate Holterhoff LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redmonk.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedMonk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hirschwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hirsch Horizon Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jm.linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bsky.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mastodon.social/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.homedepot.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Home Depot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gatech.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Georgia Institue of Technology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/ipad/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gus’s Fried Chicken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redphonebooth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Phone Booth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://goldstarchili.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gold Star Chili&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.skylinechili.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyline Chili&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.riverfrontpizzasportsbar.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Riverfront Pizza &amp;amp; Sports Bar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/x56yldp0id67lg5l8nkkaoe2/d3535uc8aq55tp2j2r1amnd9/transcoded-01KECKE0BRN2PDRMHA52R41FM2-01KECKE0BR2WZP346D6EHPZSHR_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Adaptability, HTMX, and DivOps with Jonathan Creamer</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Jonathan Creamer, Senior Software Engineer at Microsoft and a tech enthusiast, is carving out a niche in the world of front-end tooling. He&#39;s even coined the term &#34;DivOps&#34; with the help of his team. Jonathan is passionate about creating and experimenting with new tools that enhance developer workflows. He is on a mission to reduce the reliance on YAML configuration in CI/CD pipelines by converting repetitive tasks into code. For him, it&#39;s all about making these processes more efficient, maintainable, and testable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jonathan shares one of his core beliefs, which is the importance of staying adaptable in a tech career. He encourages developers to stay open to new languages and concepts. His advice? Invest time in specializing for a few years to gain an in-depth understanding, then move on to the next thing. According to Jonathan, the hallmark of a senior engineer is someone who continually broadens their skill set. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jonathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on popular tech topics, the world of front-end tooling, and the importance of staying adaptable as an engineer. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:26] - Introduction to Jonathan Creamer.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:38] - A whiskey review: 13th Colony Southern Bourbon Whiskey
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[16:58] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:18] - How HTMX will change the way apps are built.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:08] - Jonathan talks about how he came up with the term, “DivOps”.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:27] - If Jonathan wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:51] - “There’s no way in Office we’re going to decide, let&#39;s get rid of the 20 million lines of React code that we have in our code base and switch to HTMX.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:36] - “There are so many ways to solve problems on front-end development. There’s just no reason to bash anybody for anything.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[47:51] - “If you’ve been writing front-end code for 10 years and you don’t know how back-end works still, I would imagine you probably do.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jonathancreamer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jcreamer898&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hoover.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hoover&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.eventbrite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eventbrite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lonelyplanet.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lonely Planet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-colacompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.abcfws.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ABC Fine Wine &amp;amp; Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nashville Barrel Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://johnresig.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;John Resig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Digital Ocean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/?form=MA13FJ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Edge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NodeJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brooksschool.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brooks School&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usa.canon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Canon &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">d2714f33-c76d-47b9-8c00-e91afcac52c7</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/d2zkkymmkcn8rsvum0qv9eff.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Creamer, Senior Software Engineer at Microsoft and a tech enthusiast, is carving out a niche in the world of front-end tooling. He's even coined the term "DivOps" with the help of his team. Jonathan is passionate about creating and experimenting with new tools that enhance developer workflows. He is on a mission to reduce the reliance on YAML configuration in CI/CD pipelines by converting repetitive tasks into code. For him, it's all about making these processes more efficient, maintainable, and testable.</p>
<p>
Jonathan shares one of his core beliefs, which is the importance of staying adaptable in a tech career. He encourages developers to stay open to new languages and concepts. His advice? Invest time in specializing for a few years to gain an in-depth understanding, then move on to the next thing. According to Jonathan, the hallmark of a senior engineer is someone who continually broadens their skill set. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Jonathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on popular tech topics, the world of front-end tooling, and the importance of staying adaptable as an engineer. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:26] - Introduction to Jonathan Creamer.
</li>
 <li>[04:38] - A whiskey review: 13th Colony Southern Bourbon Whiskey
</li>
 <li>[16:58] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[30:18] - How HTMX will change the way apps are built.
</li>
  <li>[37:08] - Jonathan talks about how he came up with the term, “DivOps”.
</li>
  <li>[55:27] - If Jonathan wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[30:51] - “There’s no way in Office we’re going to decide, let's get rid of the 20 million lines of React code that we have in our code base and switch to HTMX.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer</a></p>
<p>
[35:36] - “There are so many ways to solve problems on front-end development. There’s just no reason to bash anybody for anything.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer</a></p>
<p>
[47:51] - “If you’ve been writing front-end code for 10 years and you don’t know how back-end works still, I would imagine you probably do.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer</a></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.jonathancreamer.com/" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jcreamer898" target="_blank">Jonathan Creamer Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hoover.com/" target="_blank">Hoover</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/" target="_blank">Ford</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">Eventbrite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/" target="_blank">Lonely Planet</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coca-colacompany.com/" target="_blank">Coca-Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.abcfws.com/" target="_blank">ABC Fine Wine &amp; Spirits</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pinsbar.com/" target="_blank">Pins Mechanical</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home" target="_blank">Nashville Barrel Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://greenbrierdistillery.com/" target="_blank">Nelson’s Green Brier Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://flutter.dev/" target="_blank">Flutter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html" target="_blank">Adobe ColdFusion</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">Visual Studio Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://johnresig.com/" target="_blank">John Resig</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/" target="_blank">Digital Ocean</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Mozilla Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/?form=MA13FJ" target="_blank">Microsoft Edge</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" target="_blank">NodeJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brooksschool.org/" target="_blank">Brooks School</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.usa.canon.com/" target="_blank">Canon </a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Adaptability, HTMX, and DivOps with Jonathan Creamer</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/d2zkkymmkcn8rsvum0qv9eff/u82lsitihihaqo5gipvr39wj.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3645</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jonathan Creamer, Senior Software Engineer at Microsoft and a tech enthusiast, is carving out a niche in the world of front-end tooling. He&#39;s even coined the term &#34;DivOps&#34; with the help of his team. Jonathan is passionate about creating and experimenting with new tools that enhance developer workflows. He is on a mission to reduce the reliance on YAML configuration in CI/CD pipelines by converting repetitive tasks into code. For him, it&#39;s all about making these processes more efficient, maintainable, and testable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jonathan shares one of his core beliefs, which is the importance of staying adaptable in a tech career. He encourages developers to stay open to new languages and concepts. His advice? Invest time in specializing for a few years to gain an in-depth understanding, then move on to the next thing. According to Jonathan, the hallmark of a senior engineer is someone who continually broadens their skill set. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jonathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about hot takes on popular tech topics, the world of front-end tooling, and the importance of staying adaptable as an engineer. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:26] - Introduction to Jonathan Creamer.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:38] - A whiskey review: 13th Colony Southern Bourbon Whiskey
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[16:58] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:18] - How HTMX will change the way apps are built.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:08] - Jonathan talks about how he came up with the term, “DivOps”.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[55:27] - If Jonathan wasn’t in tech, what career would he choose?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:51] - “There’s no way in Office we’re going to decide, let&#39;s get rid of the 20 million lines of React code that we have in our code base and switch to HTMX.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:36] - “There are so many ways to solve problems on front-end development. There’s just no reason to bash anybody for anything.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[47:51] - “If you’ve been writing front-end code for 10 years and you don’t know how back-end works still, I would imagine you probably do.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jonathancreamer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcreamer898/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jcreamer898&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jonathan Creamer Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hoover.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hoover&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.eventbrite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eventbrite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lonelyplanet.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lonely Planet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-colacompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.abcfws.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ABC Fine Wine &amp;amp; Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pinsbar.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pins Mechanical&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nashville Barrel Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greenbrierdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nelson’s Green Brier Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flutter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flutter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe ColdFusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://johnresig.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;John Resig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Digital Ocean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/?form=MA13FJ&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Edge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NodeJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brooksschool.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brooks School&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.usa.canon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Canon &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/txb18ycxh4klcsbwhixirbf6/thumbnail-txb18ycxh4klcsbwhixirbf6.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/txb18ycxh4klcsbwhixirbf6/thumbnail-txb18ycxh4klcsbwhixirbf6.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/d2zkkymmkcn8rsvum0qv9eff/cqki32dmvje7emijrdg2vc3d/transcoded-01KECKE17BSWYBZWPC0S3WB714-01KECKE17BWPG8D4E1PV3MB0X2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>SST, AWS, and Ember with Dax Raad</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Dax Raad, Founder of Bumi and Ironbay and SST Core Maintainer, is a passionate open-source developer who knows his way around the startup tech space with over a decade of experience under his belt. He is intimately involved in the Serverless Stack Toolkit (SST) and sheds some light on what it’s all about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dax reveals the story behind the inception of SST and its unique role in the software development ecosystem. He explores how SST is revolutionizing the way developers approach serverless applications by streamlining deployment on AWS while also focusing on developer experience. Dax also touches on the integration of Next.js and how SST has become an essential tool for deploying Next.js applications on AWS seamlessly. The discussion shifts gears to the world of cloud computing, where AWS is the big kingpin. Dax explains how being the first big player gives AWS a huge advantage in terms of money and customers. Other companies like Google Cloud and Azure have a hard time catching up because of AWS’ head start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Dax talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience in early-stage startups and open-source projects, SST&#39;s role in simplifying AWS development, and how JSON API and Ember.js are changing the landscape of web development.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Intro to Dax Raad.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review: Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:04] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:46] - When Dax got involved in the SST project.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:19] - Why businesses build on top of AWS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:35] - The relationship between Next.js and the SST project.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:50] - Dax’s experience using Ember.js.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:49] - The career Dax would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:55] -  Chuck and Dax discuss Lionel Messi being in Miami.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:43] - “I don’t believe you can catch up with a company that started before you in the cloud business.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:08] - “It is extremely tedious. It is extremely hard to keep up with intentional changes that Vercel and Next.js make but also breakages that they do accidentally.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:43] - “The vast majority of Next.js users, Next,js isn’t the thing they live and die by.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thdxr.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bellemeadebourbon.com/products/belle-meade-bourbon&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hersheyland.com/products/twizzlers-twists-strawberry-flavored-candy-32-oz-big-bag.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twizzlers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stitches.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stitches&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTMX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cloud.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Cloud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Graph QL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://orbitjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Orbit JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mlssoccer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Major League Soccer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intermiamicf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Miami CF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">06a8534a-634e-460c-8047-4f1490b64b54</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qmgl4baob88mw08rsilj8qn9.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dax Raad, Founder of Bumi and Ironbay and SST Core Maintainer, is a passionate open-source developer who knows his way around the startup tech space with over a decade of experience under his belt. He is intimately involved in the Serverless Stack Toolkit (SST) and sheds some light on what it’s all about.</p>
<p>
Dax reveals the story behind the inception of SST and its unique role in the software development ecosystem. He explores how SST is revolutionizing the way developers approach serverless applications by streamlining deployment on AWS while also focusing on developer experience. Dax also touches on the integration of Next.js and how SST has become an essential tool for deploying Next.js applications on AWS seamlessly. The discussion shifts gears to the world of cloud computing, where AWS is the big kingpin. Dax explains how being the first big player gives AWS a huge advantage in terms of money and customers. Other companies like Google Cloud and Azure have a hard time catching up because of AWS’ head start.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Dax talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience in early-stage startups and open-source projects, SST's role in simplifying AWS development, and how JSON API and Ember.js are changing the landscape of web development.<br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:32] - Intro to Dax Raad.
</li>
 <li>[01:35] - A whiskey review: Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[11:04] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[18:46] - When Dax got involved in the SST project.
</li>
  <li>[25:19] - Why businesses build on top of AWS.
</li>
  <li>[30:35] - The relationship between Next.js and the SST project.
</li>
  <li>[36:50] - Dax’s experience using Ember.js.
</li>
  <li>[41:49] - The career Dax would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
</li>
  <li>[43:55] -  Chuck and Dax discuss Lionel Messi being in Miami.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[25:43] - “I don’t believe you can catch up with a company that started before you in the cloud business.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax Raad</a></p>
<p>
[33:08] - “It is extremely tedious. It is extremely hard to keep up with intentional changes that Vercel and Next.js make but also breakages that they do accidentally.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax Raad</a></p>
<p>
[33:43] - “The vast majority of Next.js users, Next,js isn’t the thing they live and die by.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax Raad</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://thdxr.com/" target="_blank">Dax Raad</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax Raad Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thdxr" target="_blank">Dax Raad LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank">AWS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bellemeadebourbon.com/products/belle-meade-bourbon" target="_blank">Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hersheyland.com/products/twizzlers-twists-strawberry-flavored-candy-32-oz-big-bag.html" target="_blank">Twizzlers</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">Taco Bell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en" target="_blank">Jim Beam </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html" target="_blank">Pappy Van Winkle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stitches.dev/" target="_blank">Stitches</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">HTMX</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://cloud.google.com/" target="_blank">Google Cloud</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">Graph QL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://orbitjs.com/" target="_blank">Orbit JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">Rails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mlssoccer.com/" target="_blank">Major League Soccer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.intermiamicf.com/" target="_blank">Inter Miami CF</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>SST, AWS, and Ember with Dax Raad</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qmgl4baob88mw08rsilj8qn9/dbt5lh9jgdjf896tiis520k3.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3261</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>110</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Dax Raad, Founder of Bumi and Ironbay and SST Core Maintainer, is a passionate open-source developer who knows his way around the startup tech space with over a decade of experience under his belt. He is intimately involved in the Serverless Stack Toolkit (SST) and sheds some light on what it’s all about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Dax reveals the story behind the inception of SST and its unique role in the software development ecosystem. He explores how SST is revolutionizing the way developers approach serverless applications by streamlining deployment on AWS while also focusing on developer experience. Dax also touches on the integration of Next.js and how SST has become an essential tool for deploying Next.js applications on AWS seamlessly. The discussion shifts gears to the world of cloud computing, where AWS is the big kingpin. Dax explains how being the first big player gives AWS a huge advantage in terms of money and customers. Other companies like Google Cloud and Azure have a hard time catching up because of AWS’ head start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Dax talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience in early-stage startups and open-source projects, SST&#39;s role in simplifying AWS development, and how JSON API and Ember.js are changing the landscape of web development.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Intro to Dax Raad.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review: Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:04] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:46] - When Dax got involved in the SST project.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:19] - Why businesses build on top of AWS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:35] - The relationship between Next.js and the SST project.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:50] - Dax’s experience using Ember.js.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:49] - The career Dax would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:55] -  Chuck and Dax discuss Lionel Messi being in Miami.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:43] - “I don’t believe you can catch up with a company that started before you in the cloud business.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:08] - “It is extremely tedious. It is extremely hard to keep up with intentional changes that Vercel and Next.js make but also breakages that they do accidentally.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:43] - “The vast majority of Next.js users, Next,js isn’t the thing they live and die by.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thdxr.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/thdxr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dax Raad LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qmgl4baob88mw08rsilj8qn9/bl20dz36paefyyptydfyhdhh/transcoded-01KECKDXH7CPXXDY5SWWQNVEEA-01KECKDXH7X2FYGETJ7E1X65ZE_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, Ember Data, and Open Source with Chris Thoburn (Runspired)</title><description>&lt;p&gt;After years in the tech game, senior developers know that it’s important to find a balance between innovation and stability in engineering. How can developers strike the balance between embracing new tools and ensuring the steadfastness of their applications over the long haul? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Chris Thoburn (Runspired), Staff Software Engineer at AuditBoard, is a big deal in the open-source community, particularly within the Ember community. He explains how his journey has been a unique blend of teamwork and adapting and elaborates on the philosophy behind Ember Data. Chris mentions that the framework is like a solid foundation, built to provide a consistent and stable data layer while allowing developers to evolve their apps over the years. His vision is for Ember Data to be a trusted companion for developers creating web apps.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Runspired talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on controversial tech topics like HTMX, the power of Ember Data and its role in creating stable, scalable, and evolving applications, and the pivotal role that open-source plays in shaping technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:50] - Intro to Runspired.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:04] - A whiskey review: Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:52] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:26] - How Runspired would rename Ember Data.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:40] - Runspired’s success pitching open source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:35] - The career Runspired would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:09] - Runspired shares whether HTMX will change the way web apps are built.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:00:21] - Runspired’s first choice karaoke song.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:25] - “I’ve been around enough, seen enough to realize that getting really caught up in one approach is just an exercise in long-term frustration that I don’t need.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:35] - “How do you get a company to invest in open-source? It&#39;s not about open-source, it&#39;s about value to a company.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[51:07] - “I think we are approaching a very different era in the maturity of Javascript development.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/runspired/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Thoburn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/hibiki-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.koolaid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kool-Aid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crushsoda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crush Soda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.portlandcoffeeroasters.com/consumer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Portland Coffee Roasters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.threads.net/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Threads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grpc.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;gRPC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://protobuf.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Protocol Buffers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cd14c1a9-970e-46d5-bd9d-49d7283e6305</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mih191ipp2ntr2ppu6yhke7w.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After years in the tech game, senior developers know that it’s important to find a balance between innovation and stability in engineering. How can developers strike the balance between embracing new tools and ensuring the steadfastness of their applications over the long haul? </p>
<p>
Chris Thoburn (Runspired), Staff Software Engineer at AuditBoard, is a big deal in the open-source community, particularly within the Ember community. He explains how his journey has been a unique blend of teamwork and adapting and elaborates on the philosophy behind Ember Data. Chris mentions that the framework is like a solid foundation, built to provide a consistent and stable data layer while allowing developers to evolve their apps over the years. His vision is for Ember Data to be a trusted companion for developers creating web apps.
</p><p>In this episode, Runspired talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on controversial tech topics like HTMX, the power of Ember Data and its role in creating stable, scalable, and evolving applications, and the pivotal role that open-source plays in shaping technology.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:50] - Intro to Runspired.
</li>
 <li>[02:04] - A whiskey review: Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[10:52] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[30:26] - How Runspired would rename Ember Data.
</li>
  <li>[39:40] - Runspired’s success pitching open source.
</li>
  <li>[47:35] - The career Runspired would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
</li>
  <li>[50:09] - Runspired shares whether HTMX will change the way web apps are built.
</li>
  <li>[01:00:21] - Runspired’s first choice karaoke song.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[27:25] - “I’ve been around enough, seen enough to realize that getting really caught up in one approach is just an exercise in long-term frustration that I don’t need.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/not_runspired" target="_blank">Runspired</a></p>
<p>
[35:35] - “How do you get a company to invest in open-source? It's not about open-source, it's about value to a company.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/not_runspired" target="_blank">Runspired</a></p>
<p>
[51:07] - “I think we are approaching a very different era in the maturity of Javascript development.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/not_runspired" target="_blank">Runspired</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/not_runspired" target="_blank">Runspired</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/runspired/" target="_blank">Chris Thoburn LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://house.suntory.com/hibiki-whisky" target="_blank">Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.koolaid.com/" target="_blank">Kool-Aid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.crushsoda.com/" target="_blank">Crush Soda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.portlandcoffeeroasters.com/consumer/" target="_blank">Portland Coffee Roasters</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.threads.net/?hl=en" target="_blank">Threads</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxt.com/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" target="_blank">RedwoodJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_basics.html" target="_blank">Active Record</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://trpc.io/" target="_blank">tRPC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://grpc.io/" target="_blank">gRPC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://protobuf.dev/" target="_blank">Protocol Buffers</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
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<p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, Ember Data, and Open Source with Chris Thoburn (Runspired)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mih191ipp2ntr2ppu6yhke7w/zmqhl7adm3uoirx0mrg89yfv.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4131</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>109</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;After years in the tech game, senior developers know that it’s important to find a balance between innovation and stability in engineering. How can developers strike the balance between embracing new tools and ensuring the steadfastness of their applications over the long haul? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Chris Thoburn (Runspired), Staff Software Engineer at AuditBoard, is a big deal in the open-source community, particularly within the Ember community. He explains how his journey has been a unique blend of teamwork and adapting and elaborates on the philosophy behind Ember Data. Chris mentions that the framework is like a solid foundation, built to provide a consistent and stable data layer while allowing developers to evolve their apps over the years. His vision is for Ember Data to be a trusted companion for developers creating web apps.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Runspired talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on controversial tech topics like HTMX, the power of Ember Data and its role in creating stable, scalable, and evolving applications, and the pivotal role that open-source plays in shaping technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:50] - Intro to Runspired.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:04] - A whiskey review: Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:52] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:26] - How Runspired would rename Ember Data.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:40] - Runspired’s success pitching open source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:35] - The career Runspired would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:09] - Runspired shares whether HTMX will change the way web apps are built.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:00:21] - Runspired’s first choice karaoke song.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:25] - “I’ve been around enough, seen enough to realize that getting really caught up in one approach is just an exercise in long-term frustration that I don’t need.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[35:35] - “How do you get a company to invest in open-source? It&#39;s not about open-source, it&#39;s about value to a company.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[51:07] - “I think we are approaching a very different era in the maturity of Javascript development.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/not_runspired&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Runspired&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/runspired/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Thoburn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://house.suntory.com/hibiki-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.koolaid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kool-Aid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crushsoda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crush Soda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.portlandcoffeeroasters.com/consumer/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Portland Coffee Roasters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.threads.net/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Threads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedwoodJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_basics.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Active Record&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://trpc.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;tRPC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://grpc.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;gRPC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://protobuf.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Protocol Buffers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bc7hj11g53zyeu7rcl91ej08/thumbnail-bc7hj11g53zyeu7rcl91ej08.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/bc7hj11g53zyeu7rcl91ej08/thumbnail-bc7hj11g53zyeu7rcl91ej08.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mih191ipp2ntr2ppu6yhke7w/ovgq2oy03z9hbvnlqmprrxbw/transcoded-01KECKCKR6Q4YBNHVWYJQ0NFB3-01KECKCKR6VNHKKC0BQDEQAQ4E_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Vite, Debugging, and PNPM with Ed Faulkner</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The landscape of tech is always changing and adaptability is key. Ed Faulkner, Ember Core Team Member and Founder at Polynomial LLC shares his insights into the dynamic world of software engineering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ed kicks things off by shedding light on the importance of using efficient tools in software development. Ed dives into Vite, a build tool known for its speed and user-friendliness. He explains how Vite tackles the slow development process that some old-school build tools bring along. While Vite might not fit every situation, Ed highlights its usefulness for projects where speedy development matters. The conversation takes a turn as Ed dives into the world of package management, discussing PNPM and how mixing Vite with Ember can shake things up for developers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ed talks to Robbie and Chuck about the challenges with package management, how using Vite with Ember will impact developer experience and the value of knowing how to debug.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:51] - Intro to Ed Faulkner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:36] - A whiskey review: West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:51] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[24:43] - What Vite unlocks for the developer community.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:27] - The importance of debugging.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:30] - The skills required to build a package manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:49] - The career Ed would choose if he wasn’t in tech. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[08:35] - “As my own career has progressed, I’m definitely a library person. I’m happier building the tools to build applications.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:30] - “Software is hard. You can’t work in software and not hit bugs on a daily basis.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:35] - “Some stuff is really hard to choose your own adventure with and package management is just one of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaf4.com/author/edward/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.westcorkdistillers.com/products/cask-strength#&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTMX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Go&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PNPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yarnpkg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yarn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8444d90b-9982-4736-96f4-0670c6224991</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/w206hwi1b6i0aw861o48g0rk.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The landscape of tech is always changing and adaptability is key. Ed Faulkner, Ember Core Team Member and Founder at Polynomial LLC shares his insights into the dynamic world of software engineering.</p>
<p>
Ed kicks things off by shedding light on the importance of using efficient tools in software development. Ed dives into Vite, a build tool known for its speed and user-friendliness. He explains how Vite tackles the slow development process that some old-school build tools bring along. While Vite might not fit every situation, Ed highlights its usefulness for projects where speedy development matters. The conversation takes a turn as Ed dives into the world of package management, discussing PNPM and how mixing Vite with Ember can shake things up for developers. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Ed talks to Robbie and Chuck about the challenges with package management, how using Vite with Ember will impact developer experience and the value of knowing how to debug.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:51] - Intro to Ed Faulkner.
</li>
 <li>[01:36] - A whiskey review: West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength. 
</li>
 <li>[07:51] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[24:43] - What Vite unlocks for the developer community.
</li>
  <li>[29:27] - The importance of debugging.
</li>
  <li>[33:30] - The skills required to build a package manager.
</li>
  <li>[49:49] - The career Ed would choose if he wasn’t in tech. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[08:35] - “As my own career has progressed, I’m definitely a library person. I’m happier building the tools to build applications.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/eaf4" target="_blank">Ed Faulkner</a></p>
<p>
[29:30] - “Software is hard. You can’t work in software and not hit bugs on a daily basis.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/eaf4" target="_blank">Ed Faulkner</a></p>
<p>
[40:35] - “Some stuff is really hard to choose your own adventure with and package management is just one of them.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/eaf4" target="_blank">Ed Faulkner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://eaf4.com/author/edward/" target="_blank">Ed Faulkner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/eaf4?lang=en" target="_blank">Ed Faulkner Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.westcorkdistillers.com/products/cask-strength#" target="_blank">West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://htmx.org/" target="_blank">HTMX</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://go.dev/" target="_blank">Go</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-US" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pnpm.io/" target="_blank">PNPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yarnpkg.com/" target="_blank">Yarn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en" target="_blank">Node.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
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<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Vite, Debugging, and PNPM with Ed Faulkner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w206hwi1b6i0aw861o48g0rk/x7b6v382hdh664abwq5c3e65.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3275</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The landscape of tech is always changing and adaptability is key. Ed Faulkner, Ember Core Team Member and Founder at Polynomial LLC shares his insights into the dynamic world of software engineering.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ed kicks things off by shedding light on the importance of using efficient tools in software development. Ed dives into Vite, a build tool known for its speed and user-friendliness. He explains how Vite tackles the slow development process that some old-school build tools bring along. While Vite might not fit every situation, Ed highlights its usefulness for projects where speedy development matters. The conversation takes a turn as Ed dives into the world of package management, discussing PNPM and how mixing Vite with Ember can shake things up for developers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ed talks to Robbie and Chuck about the challenges with package management, how using Vite with Ember will impact developer experience and the value of knowing how to debug.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:51] - Intro to Ed Faulkner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:36] - A whiskey review: West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:51] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[24:43] - What Vite unlocks for the developer community.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:27] - The importance of debugging.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:30] - The skills required to build a package manager.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:49] - The career Ed would choose if he wasn’t in tech. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[08:35] - “As my own career has progressed, I’m definitely a library person. I’m happier building the tools to build applications.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:30] - “Software is hard. You can’t work in software and not hit bugs on a daily basis.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:35] - “Some stuff is really hard to choose your own adventure with and package management is just one of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaf4.com/author/edward/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/eaf4?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ed Faulkner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.westcorkdistillers.com/products/cask-strength#&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;West Cork Whiskey Cask Strength&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://htmx.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTMX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Go&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PNPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yarnpkg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yarn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w206hwi1b6i0aw861o48g0rk/a7xrka89ekev4qbppwhjgme6/transcoded-01KECKDXK2RW9BHER3NZKVR9N0-01KECKDXK241D16NEXBEVDZR4K_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Polaris, Vite, and Exploring the Future of Ember with Jared Galanis and Preston Sego</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Recorded at EmberConf from the heart of the Multnomah Whiskey Library with Jared Galanis, Software Engineer on the Ember Learning Team, and Preston Sego aka NullVoxPopuli, Software Artificer at AuditBoard, Chuck and Robbie delve into the evolution and future of the Ember framework.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Though Ember isn’t often in the spotlight for being cutting-edge, Jared and Preston unravel the exciting developments in the Ember ecosystem. The conversation centers around Ember Polaris, the eagerly awaited next edition of the Ember framework. Preston explains the concept of &#34;editions&#34; in semantic versioning and how Polaris aims to provide a cohesive story for integrating new features. They also discuss Ember&#39;s shift to Vite as a modern build system, resulting in improved performance, startup time, and enhanced plugin ecosystem. Jared sheds light on the Ember learning team and his background in front-end and back-end development. He reinforces Ember&#39;s commitment to offering smooth upgrade paths for applications over the years, giving developers a sense of security and longevity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jared and Preston talk to Robbie and Chuck about the upcoming release of Ember Polaris and its compatibility with Vite, the unique reactivity primitives of Ember, and how changes can modernize the Ember framework while ensuring long-term app stability.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:29] - Intro to Jared and Preston.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:32] - A whiskey review: Willett Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:50] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:25] - Jared and Preston’s favorite programming language.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:29] - New developments in Ember, including Polaris.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:44] - A whiskey review: Four Roses Single Barrel.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:45] - Preston’s opinion on Glimmer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:26] - Chuck, Robbie, Preston, and Jared discuss gaming. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:58] - “One thing that I’ve appreciated about Tailwind is that it has done a better job of teaching people actually CSS than where people go to learn CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:07] - “It’s exciting to see Ember moving towards being able to use standardized build systems that are used widely throughout Javascript.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[52:34] - “People in the React ecosystem are perfectly fine with half-baked things and are willing to try an idea and run with it in their production code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jaredgalanis.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredgalanis/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.subway.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Subway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">44958308-4859-4fab-8d4d-8f236c88d52e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vjc5u3lvssglkwqurogoabud.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recorded at EmberConf from the heart of the Multnomah Whiskey Library with Jared Galanis, Software Engineer on the Ember Learning Team, and Preston Sego aka NullVoxPopuli, Software Artificer at AuditBoard, Chuck and Robbie delve into the evolution and future of the Ember framework.</p>
<p>
Though Ember isn’t often in the spotlight for being cutting-edge, Jared and Preston unravel the exciting developments in the Ember ecosystem. The conversation centers around Ember Polaris, the eagerly awaited next edition of the Ember framework. Preston explains the concept of "editions" in semantic versioning and how Polaris aims to provide a cohesive story for integrating new features. They also discuss Ember's shift to Vite as a modern build system, resulting in improved performance, startup time, and enhanced plugin ecosystem. Jared sheds light on the Ember learning team and his background in front-end and back-end development. He reinforces Ember's commitment to offering smooth upgrade paths for applications over the years, giving developers a sense of security and longevity.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Jared and Preston talk to Robbie and Chuck about the upcoming release of Ember Polaris and its compatibility with Vite, the unique reactivity primitives of Ember, and how changes can modernize the Ember framework while ensuring long-term app stability.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:29] - Intro to Jared and Preston.
</li>
 <li>[02:32] - A whiskey review: Willett Straight Rye Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[14:50] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[25:25] - Jared and Preston’s favorite programming language.
</li>
  <li>[27:29] - New developments in Ember, including Polaris.
</li>
  <li>[39:44] - A whiskey review: Four Roses Single Barrel.
</li>
  <li>[46:45] - Preston’s opinion on Glimmer.
</li>
  <li>[56:26] - Chuck, Robbie, Preston, and Jared discuss gaming. </li>
</ul>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:58] - “One thing that I’ve appreciated about Tailwind is that it has done a better job of teaching people actually CSS than where people go to learn CSS.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli" target="_blank">Preston Sego</a></p>
<p>
[30:07] - “It’s exciting to see Ember moving towards being able to use standardized build systems that are used widely throughout Javascript.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis" target="_blank">Jared Galanis</a></p>
<p>
[52:34] - “People in the React ecosystem are perfectly fine with half-baked things and are willing to try an idea and run with it in their production code.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli" target="_blank">Preston Sego</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://jaredgalanis.com/" target="_blank">Jared Galanis</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredgalanis/" target="_blank">Jared Galanis on LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis" target="_blank">Jared Galanis Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/" target="_blank">Preston Sego on LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli" target="_blank">Preston Sego Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.subway.com/en-us" target="_blank">Subway</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-rye/" target="_blank">Willett Straight Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rccolainternational.com/" target="_blank">RC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://semver.org/" target="_blank">Semver</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://impossiblefoods.com/products/burger" target="_blank">Impossible Burger </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty" target="_blank">The JS Party Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://preactjs.com/" target="_blank">Preact</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jestjs.io/" target="_blank">Jest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/single-barrel" target="_blank">Four Roses Single Barrel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chickencockwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Chicken Cock Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://glimmerjs.com/" target="_blank">Glimmer.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/" target="_blank">Steam Deck</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.asus.com/" target="_blank">Asus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sunlight.io/" target="_blank">Sunlight</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://moonlight-stream.org/" target="_blank">Moonlight</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/" target="_blank">NVIDIA Shield</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Polaris, Vite, and Exploring the Future of Ember with Jared Galanis and Preston Sego</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vjc5u3lvssglkwqurogoabud/e2orfx7cm369lqv7i8s12ri1.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3803</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Recorded at EmberConf from the heart of the Multnomah Whiskey Library with Jared Galanis, Software Engineer on the Ember Learning Team, and Preston Sego aka NullVoxPopuli, Software Artificer at AuditBoard, Chuck and Robbie delve into the evolution and future of the Ember framework.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Though Ember isn’t often in the spotlight for being cutting-edge, Jared and Preston unravel the exciting developments in the Ember ecosystem. The conversation centers around Ember Polaris, the eagerly awaited next edition of the Ember framework. Preston explains the concept of &#34;editions&#34; in semantic versioning and how Polaris aims to provide a cohesive story for integrating new features. They also discuss Ember&#39;s shift to Vite as a modern build system, resulting in improved performance, startup time, and enhanced plugin ecosystem. Jared sheds light on the Ember learning team and his background in front-end and back-end development. He reinforces Ember&#39;s commitment to offering smooth upgrade paths for applications over the years, giving developers a sense of security and longevity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jared and Preston talk to Robbie and Chuck about the upcoming release of Ember Polaris and its compatibility with Vite, the unique reactivity primitives of Ember, and how changes can modernize the Ember framework while ensuring long-term app stability.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:29] - Intro to Jared and Preston.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:32] - A whiskey review: Willett Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[14:50] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[25:25] - Jared and Preston’s favorite programming language.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:29] - New developments in Ember, including Polaris.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:44] - A whiskey review: Four Roses Single Barrel.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:45] - Preston’s opinion on Glimmer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:26] - Chuck, Robbie, Preston, and Jared discuss gaming. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:58] - “One thing that I’ve appreciated about Tailwind is that it has done a better job of teaching people actually CSS than where people go to learn CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:07] - “It’s exciting to see Ember moving towards being able to use standardized build systems that are used widely throughout Javascript.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[52:34] - “People in the React ecosystem are perfectly fine with half-baked things and are willing to try an idea and run with it in their production code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jaredgalanis.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredgalanis/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jaredgalanis&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jared Galanis Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preston Sego Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.subway.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Subway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Willett Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://semver.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Semver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://impossiblefoods.com/products/burger&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Impossible Burger &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The JS Party Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jestjs.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/single-barrel&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Single Barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://glimmerjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Glimmer.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam Deck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.asus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Asus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sunlight.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sunlight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://moonlight-stream.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Moonlight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NVIDIA Shield&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vjc5u3lvssglkwqurogoabud/eizfotof67v0rdkpxp6x3kai/transcoded-01KECKE1FMTQYXM3E5ST59TPVK-01KECKE1FM29GAZHCXJFT8XXF9_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Topics, Traditional Jobs, and Grinding at Work with Jason Lengstorf</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Work-life balance can feel like an impossible expectation to meet. For developers and other tech professionals, it’s even harder to unplug when your profession and personal life are connected to the web. Can developers resist the urge to overwork and embrace non-traditional ways of working?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason, believes &#34;your job doesn&#39;t matter&#34;. He explores the concept of &#34;grinding&#34; and shares his ideas on the nuances of working long hours and the importance of maintaining a balanced approach. His perspective revolves around the idea that while putting in extra hours to learn and develop skills can be beneficial, overcommitting to work and neglecting other aspects of life can lead to a loss of creativity, identity, and overall well-being.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jason talks to Robbie and Chuck about his opinion on popular Twitter tech topics, the effects of grinding in your career, and whether traditional jobs have become obsolete.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - What’s new with Jason since the last episode?
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:42] - A whiskey review: Bunnahabhain 18-Year Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[16:01] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[19:17] - Jason talks about developers being attached to specific tools.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[22:58] - A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[29:31] - How constant grinding is detrimental to your career.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[38:01] - Jason’s relationship with work.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:49] - Jason talks about his camera gear.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:14] - “I want to build cool shit for the internet and the tools are just tools.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:00] - “I feel very strongly that the idea of being always on is detrimental.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:27] - “The internet is an information vehicle and the information that we’re conveying most of the time is to convince you to put some dollars into somebody else&#39;s pocket.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learn with Jason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnty0z0pNRDgnuoirYXnC5A&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learn with Jason YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlengstorf/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mwlpdx.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Multnomah Whiskey Library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bunnahabhain.com/products/18-year-old?pr_prod_strat=use_description&amp;amp;pr_rec_id=f8e9c6376&amp;amp;pr_rec_pid=6807197679795&amp;amp;pr_ref_pid=6807176478899&amp;amp;pr_seq=uniform&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bunnahabhain 18 Year Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.themacallan.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Macallan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkK0A7MuUIk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Feud &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencock.passionspirits.com/ccw-island-rooster.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/alone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hilton.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hilton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marriott.com/default.mi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marriott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7ce2607c-c4d7-40e1-b58c-4ad6bccec349</guid><pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lspc3zg9oekfgfw9v3rogofg.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work-life balance can feel like an impossible expectation to meet. For developers and other tech professionals, it’s even harder to unplug when your profession and personal life are connected to the web. Can developers resist the urge to overwork and embrace non-traditional ways of working?
</p><p>Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason, believes "your job doesn't matter". He explores the concept of "grinding" and shares his ideas on the nuances of working long hours and the importance of maintaining a balanced approach. His perspective revolves around the idea that while putting in extra hours to learn and develop skills can be beneficial, overcommitting to work and neglecting other aspects of life can lead to a loss of creativity, identity, and overall well-being.</p>
<p>In this episode, Jason talks to Robbie and Chuck about his opinion on popular Twitter tech topics, the effects of grinding in your career, and whether traditional jobs have become obsolete.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:01] - What’s new with Jason since the last episode?
</li>
 <li>[01:42] - A whiskey review: Bunnahabhain 18-Year Whisky.
</li>
 <li>[16:01] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
 <li>[19:17] - Jason talks about developers being attached to specific tools.
</li>
 <li>[22:58] - A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye.
</li>
 <li>[29:31] - How constant grinding is detrimental to your career.
</li>
 <li>[38:01] - Jason’s relationship with work.
</li>
 <li>[44:49] - Jason talks about his camera gear.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[20:14] - “I want to build cool shit for the internet and the tools are just tools.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
<p>
[30:00] - “I feel very strongly that the idea of being always on is detrimental.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
<p>
[40:27] - “The internet is an information vehicle and the information that we’re conveying most of the time is to convince you to put some dollars into somebody else's pocket.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev/" target="_blank">Learn with Jason</a></li>
 <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnty0z0pNRDgnuoirYXnC5A" target="_blank">Learn with Jason YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlengstorf/" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mwlpdx.com/" target="_blank">Multnomah Whiskey Library</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bunnahabhain.com/products/18-year-old?pr_prod_strat=use_description&amp;pr_rec_id=f8e9c6376&amp;pr_rec_pid=6807197679795&amp;pr_ref_pid=6807176478899&amp;pr_seq=uniform" target="_blank">Bunnahabhain 18 Year Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rccolainternational.com/" target="_blank">RC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en" target="_blank">The Macallan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.poindexter.dev/" target="_blank">Taylor Poindexter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkK0A7MuUIk" target="_blank">Front End Feud </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chickencock.passionspirits.com/ccw-island-rooster.html" target="_blank">Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.history.com/shows/alone" target="_blank">Alone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hilton.com/en/" target="_blank">Hilton</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.marriott.com/default.mi" target="_blank">Marriott</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Topics, Traditional Jobs, and Grinding at Work with Jason Lengstorf</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lspc3zg9oekfgfw9v3rogofg/u2n20ue9xnqm76ziszivkymo.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3348</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Work-life balance can feel like an impossible expectation to meet. For developers and other tech professionals, it’s even harder to unplug when your profession and personal life are connected to the web. Can developers resist the urge to overwork and embrace non-traditional ways of working?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason, believes &#34;your job doesn&#39;t matter&#34;. He explores the concept of &#34;grinding&#34; and shares his ideas on the nuances of working long hours and the importance of maintaining a balanced approach. His perspective revolves around the idea that while putting in extra hours to learn and develop skills can be beneficial, overcommitting to work and neglecting other aspects of life can lead to a loss of creativity, identity, and overall well-being.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jason talks to Robbie and Chuck about his opinion on popular Twitter tech topics, the effects of grinding in your career, and whether traditional jobs have become obsolete.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - What’s new with Jason since the last episode?
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:42] - A whiskey review: Bunnahabhain 18-Year Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[16:01] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[19:17] - Jason talks about developers being attached to specific tools.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[22:58] - A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[29:31] - How constant grinding is detrimental to your career.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[38:01] - Jason’s relationship with work.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:49] - Jason talks about his camera gear.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:14] - “I want to build cool shit for the internet and the tools are just tools.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:00] - “I feel very strongly that the idea of being always on is detrimental.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:27] - “The internet is an information vehicle and the information that we’re conveying most of the time is to convince you to put some dollars into somebody else&#39;s pocket.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learn with Jason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnty0z0pNRDgnuoirYXnC5A&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learn with Jason YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlengstorf/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mwlpdx.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Multnomah Whiskey Library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bunnahabhain.com/products/18-year-old?pr_prod_strat=use_description&amp;amp;pr_rec_id=f8e9c6376&amp;amp;pr_rec_pid=6807197679795&amp;amp;pr_ref_pid=6807176478899&amp;amp;pr_seq=uniform&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bunnahabhain 18 Year Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.themacallan.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Macallan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.poindexter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Poindexter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkK0A7MuUIk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Feud &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencock.passionspirits.com/ccw-island-rooster.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/alone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hilton.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hilton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marriott.com/default.mi&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marriott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
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&lt;p&gt;
Jack dissects the various programming languages from old school to new school, sharing anecdotes and opinions on PHP, ColdFusion, and React. He explores the ongoing JS fatigue phenomenon and emerging alternatives like Deno and Quick. Though Jack is up to date on the latest in tech, he questions the need for complex toolchains and whether simpler solutions, like HTML and JavaScript, might suffice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about polarizing tech topics, whether React Server Components changed React, and the state of Web Assembly.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Intro to Jack Herrington.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:04] - A whiskey review: Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:53] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:51] - Did RSCs turn React into PHP?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:00] - Big architectural changes at Vercel.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:31] - Jack’s opinion on the future of the web.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:09] - Jack talks about interesting things happening on Nextdoor.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:43] - Jack gives Chuck pizza-making tips and tricks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:49] - What Jack’s career would be if he weren’t in tech. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:04] - “If you give somebody else your problem to solve, they’re becoming a better engineer while you are not.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:30] - “There’s a whole form validation system right in the browser, and nobody uses it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[48:05] - “The approach that I have to coding is very practical. I like building stuff for customers, so that&#39;s the way I teach it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackherrington.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jherr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vRUjYqDuoUsYsku86Lrsw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Blue Collar Coder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barcart.barrellbourbon.com/products/barrell-whiskey-private-release-dja2-finished-in-a-st-agrestis-brooklyn-amaro-cask&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://panda-css.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Panda CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://oregonstate.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oregon State University&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/b?node=154606011&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kindle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fresh.deno.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno Fresh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://qwik.builder.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Qwik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redux.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elm-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Edge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextdoor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nextdoor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ca.ooni.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ooni&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.safeway.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safeway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">6e7c3736-abdf-485a-a0cf-7d0de79fb332</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:54:11 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/bkf1987lo9readu7tnflv9tk.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By now we know that an engineer with skin in the game is a senior engineer. Experience teaches wisdom and Jack Herrington, Principal Full Stack Engineer, has plenty of it.</p>
<p>
Jack dissects the various programming languages from old school to new school, sharing anecdotes and opinions on PHP, ColdFusion, and React. He explores the ongoing JS fatigue phenomenon and emerging alternatives like Deno and Quick. Though Jack is up to date on the latest in tech, he questions the need for complex toolchains and whether simpler solutions, like HTML and JavaScript, might suffice.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about polarizing tech topics, whether React Server Components changed React, and the state of Web Assembly.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:15] - Intro to Jack Herrington.
</li>
 <li>[02:04] - A whiskey review: Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish.
</li>
  <li>[09:53] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[19:51] - Did RSCs turn React into PHP?
</li>
  <li>[29:00] - Big architectural changes at Vercel.
</li>
  <li>[30:31] - Jack’s opinion on the future of the web.
</li>
  <li>[36:09] - Jack talks about interesting things happening on Nextdoor.
</li>
  <li>[39:43] - Jack gives Chuck pizza-making tips and tricks.
</li>
  <li>[44:49] - What Jack’s career would be if he weren’t in tech. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[14:04] - “If you give somebody else your problem to solve, they’re becoming a better engineer while you are not.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/jherr" target="_blank"> Jack Herrington</a></p>
<p>
[32:30] - “There’s a whole form validation system right in the browser, and nobody uses it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jherr" target="_blank">Jack Herrington</a></p>
<p>
[48:05] - “The approach that I have to coding is very practical. I like building stuff for customers, so that's the way I teach it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jherr" target="_blank">Jack Herrington</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackherrington.com/" target="_blank">Jack Herrington</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jherr" target="_blank">Jack Herrington Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jherr/" target="_blank">Jack Herrington LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vRUjYqDuoUsYsku86Lrsw" target="_blank">The Blue Collar Coder</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barcart.barrellbourbon.com/products/barrell-whiskey-private-release-dja2-finished-in-a-st-agrestis-brooklyn-amaro-cask" target="_blank">Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://panda-css.com/" target="_blank">Panda CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://oregonstate.edu/" target="_blank">Oregon State University</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/b?node=154606011" target="_blank">Kindle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fresh.deno.dev/" target="_blank">Deno Fresh</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://qwik.builder.io/" target="_blank">Qwik</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redux.js.org/" target="_blank">Redux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elm-lang.org/" target="_blank">Elm</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us" target="_blank">Lego</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Nintendo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge" target="_blank">Microsoft Edge</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextdoor.com/" target="_blank">Nextdoor</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ca.ooni.com/" target="_blank">Ooni</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.safeway.com/" target="_blank">Safeway</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, React, and WebAssembly with Jack Herrington</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bkf1987lo9readu7tnflv9tk/u12oe06lsp5qhkzcwb4gizae.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2911</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;By now we know that an engineer with skin in the game is a senior engineer. Experience teaches wisdom and Jack Herrington, Principal Full Stack Engineer, has plenty of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Jack dissects the various programming languages from old school to new school, sharing anecdotes and opinions on PHP, ColdFusion, and React. He explores the ongoing JS fatigue phenomenon and emerging alternatives like Deno and Quick. Though Jack is up to date on the latest in tech, he questions the need for complex toolchains and whether simpler solutions, like HTML and JavaScript, might suffice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about polarizing tech topics, whether React Server Components changed React, and the state of Web Assembly.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Intro to Jack Herrington.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:04] - A whiskey review: Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:53] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:51] - Did RSCs turn React into PHP?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:00] - Big architectural changes at Vercel.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:31] - Jack’s opinion on the future of the web.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:09] - Jack talks about interesting things happening on Nextdoor.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:43] - Jack gives Chuck pizza-making tips and tricks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:49] - What Jack’s career would be if he weren’t in tech. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:04] - “If you give somebody else your problem to solve, they’re becoming a better engineer while you are not.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:30] - “There’s a whole form validation system right in the browser, and nobody uses it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[48:05] - “The approach that I have to coding is very practical. I like building stuff for customers, so that&#39;s the way I teach it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackherrington.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jherr&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jherr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Herrington LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vRUjYqDuoUsYsku86Lrsw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Blue Collar Coder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barcart.barrellbourbon.com/products/barrell-whiskey-private-release-dja2-finished-in-a-st-agrestis-brooklyn-amaro-cask&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://panda-css.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Panda CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://oregonstate.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oregon State University&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/b?node=154606011&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kindle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fresh.deno.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno Fresh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://qwik.builder.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Qwik&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redux.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elm-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Edge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextdoor.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nextdoor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ca.ooni.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ooni&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.safeway.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safeway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/whuux6mhqd28447zfohs718b/thumbnail-whuux6mhqd28447zfohs718b.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/whuux6mhqd28447zfohs718b/thumbnail-whuux6mhqd28447zfohs718b.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bkf1987lo9readu7tnflv9tk/k4cei97axq3i0ceuaxvauc9d/transcoded-01KECKDPK46QDHNH2NPGBRYRNX-01KECKDPK4W80FSG10DVMVS2KE_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, Developer Relations, and AI with Rizel Scarlett</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The tech industry is in the middle of an AI revolution, and some developers are wondering if their jobs are at stake. Rizel Scarlett, Developer Advocate at Github, is encouraging developers to embrace the technology instead of fearing it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As a developer advocate, Rizel’s mission is to empower developers with the knowledge to navigate open source and make the most of GitHub’s tools - including Github’s AI pair programmer, Copilot. She sheds light on some of the features of Copilot that make it stand out among traditional code editors. She introduces Copilot for Docs, Voice, CLI, and Chat which are expected to elevate the coding experience, enhance coding efficiency, improve accessibility, and offer insights for developers of all skill levels. Rizel is a major AI advocate and she believes the technology will make coding more inclusive and user-friendly, allowing a wider range of individuals to participate actively in the developer community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Rizel talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of technical skills in advocacy roles, how AI is transforming coding, and using AI to foster inclusivity in tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Introduction to Rizel Scarlett.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:40] - A whiskey review: Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:07] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:24] - Should developer advocate or developer relations be technical roles.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:21] - Open source projects Rizel is currently excited about.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:28] - Rizel delves into the various dimensions of GitHub Copilot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:41] - What would Rizel do if she wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:11] - Rizel talks about buying a house and the moving process.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:24] - “I think particularly, it’s helpful if a developer advocate is willing to be technical or is already technical.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:55] - “What people should start thinking about more is just having range on the team.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:45] - “GitHub is going all in on the AI front.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackgirlbytes.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/rizel-bobb-semple/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/minor-case-straight-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mattpocock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angie Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brianwest.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian West&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brandonroberts.dev/blog&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brandon Roberts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cb4a0259-5372-49c7-9ba3-3d66e3fb8dad</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/nukuiq3hj2o0me5fgx2cm1rs.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tech industry is in the middle of an AI revolution, and some developers are wondering if their jobs are at stake. Rizel Scarlett, Developer Advocate at Github, is encouraging developers to embrace the technology instead of fearing it.</p>
<p>
As a developer advocate, Rizel’s mission is to empower developers with the knowledge to navigate open source and make the most of GitHub’s tools - including Github’s AI pair programmer, Copilot. She sheds light on some of the features of Copilot that make it stand out among traditional code editors. She introduces Copilot for Docs, Voice, CLI, and Chat which are expected to elevate the coding experience, enhance coding efficiency, improve accessibility, and offer insights for developers of all skill levels. Rizel is a major AI advocate and she believes the technology will make coding more inclusive and user-friendly, allowing a wider range of individuals to participate actively in the developer community.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Rizel talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of technical skills in advocacy roles, how AI is transforming coding, and using AI to foster inclusivity in tech.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:01] - Introduction to Rizel Scarlett.
</li>
  <li>[01:40] - A whiskey review: Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[08:07] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[14:24] - Should developer advocate or developer relations be technical roles.
</li>
  <li>[26:21] - Open source projects Rizel is currently excited about.
</li>
  <li>[32:28] - Rizel delves into the various dimensions of GitHub Copilot.
</li>
  <li>[35:41] - What would Rizel do if she wasn’t in tech.
</li>
  <li>[45:11] - Rizel talks about buying a house and the moving process.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[15:24] - “I think particularly, it’s helpful if a developer advocate is willing to be technical or is already technical.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett</a></p>
<p>
[22:55] - “What people should start thinking about more is just having range on the team.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett</a></p>
<p>
[32:45] - “GitHub is going all in on the AI front.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://blackgirlbytes.dev/" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rizel-bobb-semple/" target="_blank">Rizel Scarlett LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">GitHub Copilot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/minor-case-straight-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://us.coca-cola.com/" target="_blank">Coca-Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mattpocock.com/" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angiejones.tech/" target="_blank">Angie Jones</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.brianwest.dev/" target="_blank">Brian West</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://brandonroberts.dev/blog" target="_blank">Brandon Roberts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://opensauced.pizza/" target="_blank">OpenSauced</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, Developer Relations, and AI with Rizel Scarlett</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nukuiq3hj2o0me5fgx2cm1rs/turfqez2le0aycyacncc0e71.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3060</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The tech industry is in the middle of an AI revolution, and some developers are wondering if their jobs are at stake. Rizel Scarlett, Developer Advocate at Github, is encouraging developers to embrace the technology instead of fearing it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As a developer advocate, Rizel’s mission is to empower developers with the knowledge to navigate open source and make the most of GitHub’s tools - including Github’s AI pair programmer, Copilot. She sheds light on some of the features of Copilot that make it stand out among traditional code editors. She introduces Copilot for Docs, Voice, CLI, and Chat which are expected to elevate the coding experience, enhance coding efficiency, improve accessibility, and offer insights for developers of all skill levels. Rizel is a major AI advocate and she believes the technology will make coding more inclusive and user-friendly, allowing a wider range of individuals to participate actively in the developer community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Rizel talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of technical skills in advocacy roles, how AI is transforming coding, and using AI to foster inclusivity in tech.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:01] - Introduction to Rizel Scarlett.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:40] - A whiskey review: Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:07] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:24] - Should developer advocate or developer relations be technical roles.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:21] - Open source projects Rizel is currently excited about.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:28] - Rizel delves into the various dimensions of GitHub Copilot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:41] - What would Rizel do if she wasn’t in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:11] - Rizel talks about buying a house and the moving process.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:24] - “I think particularly, it’s helpful if a developer advocate is willing to be technical or is already technical.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:55] - “What people should start thinking about more is just having range on the team.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:45] - “GitHub is going all in on the AI front.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackgirlbytes.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/blackgirlbytes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/rizel-bobb-semple/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rizel Scarlett LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/minor-case-straight-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca-Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mattpocock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angie Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.brianwest.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian West&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brandonroberts.dev/blog&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brandon Roberts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nukuiq3hj2o0me5fgx2cm1rs/a0yj4u4evc5soswz41e86hx7/transcoded-01KECKDVYYW8PHA1VRRHQMSVZ6-01KECKDVYYN2X1RVVTEHBE805D_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Talk, TypeScript, and Empowering Engineers with Shaundai Person</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Shaundai Person, Senior Software Engineer at Netflix, is a TypeScript convert, educator, and advocate for the programming language. But her unconventional journey started as a self-taught engineer working in sales before discovering her passion for coding during maternity leave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Shaundai candidly shares her personal journey from initially disliking TypeScript to becoming an enthusiastic advocate for its adoption. As a self-taught engineer, Shaundai describes her transformation from a &#34;YOLO&#34; coding mindset to appreciating the structured benefits that TypeScript offers, leading to more organized and efficient codebases. Her upcoming course, &#34;TypeScript for JavaScript Developers,&#34; aims to bridge the gap between skepticism and appreciation for TypeScript, helping engineers embrace its potential for making a meaningful impact on their projects and careers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Shaundai talks to Chuck and Robbie about how she landed her role at Netflix, her journey from being a TypeScript skeptic to an advocate, and her TypeScript course called Typescript to Javascript.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:43] - Introduction to Shaundai Person.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:03] - A whiskey review: S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:09] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:44] - Shaundai talks about her course,  Typescript for Javascript Developers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:04] - Why Shaundai was learning rails and golang.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:30] - What are Shaundai’s favorite Netflix shows?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:55] - “TypeScript was something I hated until I learned what the purpose was.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:11] - “I was in love with JavaScript because it fit my personal values.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[51:39] - “If I can spend time with the people that I love in the ways that I want to, then this is the most beautiful life that I can imagine for myself.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blog.shaundai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tsforjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TypeScript for JavaScript Developers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barrelstation.com/products/s-n-pikes-magnolia-high-rye-whiskey-bottled-in-bond&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fireball&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hudsonwhiskey.com/en-US/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hudson Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Happy Hour&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angie Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.publix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Publix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instacart.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instacart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nutrafol.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nutrafol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.codecademy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Codecademy &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://salesloft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesloft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://basecamp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Basecamp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Black Mirror&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stranger Things&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81410436&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;How to Get Rich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hulu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.primevideo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Prime Video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a145374a-2217-4dbf-ad1f-4c2988f9713f</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/snvjf475qfm5pi5ezt5rz00z.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaundai Person, Senior Software Engineer at Netflix, is a TypeScript convert, educator, and advocate for the programming language. But her unconventional journey started as a self-taught engineer working in sales before discovering her passion for coding during maternity leave.</p>
<p>
Shaundai candidly shares her personal journey from initially disliking TypeScript to becoming an enthusiastic advocate for its adoption. As a self-taught engineer, Shaundai describes her transformation from a "YOLO" coding mindset to appreciating the structured benefits that TypeScript offers, leading to more organized and efficient codebases. Her upcoming course, "TypeScript for JavaScript Developers," aims to bridge the gap between skepticism and appreciation for TypeScript, helping engineers embrace its potential for making a meaningful impact on their projects and careers.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Shaundai talks to Chuck and Robbie about how she landed her role at Netflix, her journey from being a TypeScript skeptic to an advocate, and her TypeScript course called Typescript to Javascript.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:43] - Introduction to Shaundai Person.
</li>
 <li>[04:03] - A whiskey review: S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond.
</li>
 <li>[13:09] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[31:44] - Shaundai talks about her course,  Typescript for Javascript Developers.
</li>
  <li>[41:04] - Why Shaundai was learning rails and golang.
</li>
  <li>[46:30] - What are Shaundai’s favorite Netflix shows?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[31:55] - “TypeScript was something I hated until I learned what the purpose was.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Shaundai Person</a></p>
<p>
[34:11] - “I was in love with JavaScript because it fit my personal values.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Shaundai Person</a></p>
<p>
[51:39] - “If I can spend time with the people that I love in the ways that I want to, then this is the most beautiful life that I can imagine for myself.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Shaundai Person</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://blog.shaundai.com/" target="_blank">Shaundai Person</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Shaundai Person Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/" target="_blank">Shaundai Person LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tsforjs.com/" target="_blank">TypeScript for JavaScript Developers</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://barrelstation.com/products/s-n-pikes-magnolia-high-rye-whiskey-bottled-in-bond" target="_blank">S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html" target="_blank">Fireball</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hudsonwhiskey.com/en-US/" target="_blank">Hudson Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mui.com/" target="_blank">Material UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/" target="_blank">Front End Happy Hour</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/" target="_blank">Ryan Burgess </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angiejones.tech/" target="_blank">Angie Jones</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.publix.com/" target="_blank">Publix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instacart.com/" target="_blank">Instacart</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nutrafol.com/" target="_blank">Nutrafol</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.codecademy.com/" target="_blank">Codecademy </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://salesloft.com/" target="_blank">Salesloft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://basecamp.com/" target="_blank">Basecamp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/" target="_blank">Black Mirror</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281" target="_blank">Stranger Things</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81410436" target="_blank">How to Get Rich</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hulu.com/" target="_blank">Hulu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.primevideo.com/" target="_blank">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Talk, TypeScript, and Empowering Engineers with Shaundai Person</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/snvjf475qfm5pi5ezt5rz00z/ykey3mahz6n4ds04kj3ryr4k.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3633</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Shaundai Person, Senior Software Engineer at Netflix, is a TypeScript convert, educator, and advocate for the programming language. But her unconventional journey started as a self-taught engineer working in sales before discovering her passion for coding during maternity leave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Shaundai candidly shares her personal journey from initially disliking TypeScript to becoming an enthusiastic advocate for its adoption. As a self-taught engineer, Shaundai describes her transformation from a &#34;YOLO&#34; coding mindset to appreciating the structured benefits that TypeScript offers, leading to more organized and efficient codebases. Her upcoming course, &#34;TypeScript for JavaScript Developers,&#34; aims to bridge the gap between skepticism and appreciation for TypeScript, helping engineers embrace its potential for making a meaningful impact on their projects and careers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Shaundai talks to Chuck and Robbie about how she landed her role at Netflix, her journey from being a TypeScript skeptic to an advocate, and her TypeScript course called Typescript to Javascript.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:43] - Introduction to Shaundai Person.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:03] - A whiskey review: S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:09] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[31:44] - Shaundai talks about her course,  Typescript for Javascript Developers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:04] - Why Shaundai was learning rails and golang.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:30] - What are Shaundai’s favorite Netflix shows?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:55] - “TypeScript was something I hated until I learned what the purpose was.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:11] - “I was in love with JavaScript because it fit my personal values.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[51:39] - “If I can spend time with the people that I love in the ways that I want to, then this is the most beautiful life that I can imagine for myself.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blog.shaundai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shaundai?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaundai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shaundai Person LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tsforjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TypeScript for JavaScript Developers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://barrelstation.com/products/s-n-pikes-magnolia-high-rye-whiskey-bottled-in-bond&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fireball&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hudsonwhiskey.com/en-US/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hudson Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.frontendhappyhour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Front End Happy Hour&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanburgess/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Burgess &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angiejones.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angie Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.publix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Publix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instacart.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instacart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nutrafol.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nutrafol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.codecademy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Codecademy &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://salesloft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesloft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://basecamp.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Basecamp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Black Mirror&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80057281&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stranger Things&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81410436&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;How to Get Rich&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hulu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.primevideo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Prime Video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qfwpv25pzi1lhi0j0izkkiul/thumbnail-qfwpv25pzi1lhi0j0izkkiul.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qfwpv25pzi1lhi0j0izkkiul/thumbnail-qfwpv25pzi1lhi0j0izkkiul.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/snvjf475qfm5pi5ezt5rz00z/j8jm842itz2j5gf5ed48qnyo/transcoded-01KECKE15KW23NZD12SA39WYY8-01KECKE15K469D14WJE3NYTW9S_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>TypeScript, React, and API Issues with Matt Pocock</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Matt Pocock, a TypeScript educator and author of &lt;em&gt;Total TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;, became an evangelist for the programing language after searching for a solution for a project plagued by API contract issues. When TypeScript brought newfound confidence and increased velocity to the team, Matt never looked back. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Matt highlights the benefits of functional components and the seamless transition from class components to hooks, leading to a happier development environment for everyone involved. From improved error detection to real-time catching of potential issues, TypeScript provides an unmatched level of comfort and productivity for developers, making it a must-have in modern development. For developers like Matt, TypeScript is more than just a tool—it&#39;s an indispensable companion. His love for TypeScript inspired him to dedicate his career to teaching other developers how to adopt and leverage the language for optimal efficiency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Matt talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey with TypeScript, his experience with React hooks, and advice on transitioning a team to Typescript.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:49] - Introduction to Matt Pocock.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:52] - A whiskey review: The Dalmore 12.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:58] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:19] - When Matt started using TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:30] - Converting components to TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:29] - The biggest mistake people make with TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:07] - New features coming to TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:36] - Advice for teams hesitant to use TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - Matt, Chuck, and Robbie discuss football and gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:32] - Matt&#39;s career as a voice coach.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:55] - “TypeScript gives you a different way of coding, and a different way is, you feel like you could just get away with anything.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:21] - “For me, when I’m not using TypeScript, it feels like I’m coding in low power mode.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:35] - “If someone gets really into TypeScript, they just love it, and they don’t stop loving it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mattpocock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mapocock&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totaltypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total TypeScript &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stately.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stately&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thedalmore.com/en-gb/our-collections/the-principal-collection/the-12/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Dalmore 12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carinato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zod.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ts-error-translator.vercel.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TS Error Translator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://magic.wizards.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Magic: The Gathering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo2.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo II&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo IV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.footballmanager.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Football Manager&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/system/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Swindon Town FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.arsenal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arsenal FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Liverpool FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tottenham Hotspur&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.psg.fr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Paris Saint-Germain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.atleticodemadrid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Atletico Madrid &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chelseafc.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chelsea FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mancity.com/news&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester City FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Milan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FC Barcelona&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.waze.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Waze&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">598d5126-d231-421b-ae9f-81d194942346</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vmby7o3slo437kgot01d3abx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Pocock, a TypeScript educator and author of <em>Total TypeScript</em>, became an evangelist for the programing language after searching for a solution for a project plagued by API contract issues. When TypeScript brought newfound confidence and increased velocity to the team, Matt never looked back. </p>
<p>
Matt highlights the benefits of functional components and the seamless transition from class components to hooks, leading to a happier development environment for everyone involved. From improved error detection to real-time catching of potential issues, TypeScript provides an unmatched level of comfort and productivity for developers, making it a must-have in modern development. For developers like Matt, TypeScript is more than just a tool—it's an indispensable companion. His love for TypeScript inspired him to dedicate his career to teaching other developers how to adopt and leverage the language for optimal efficiency.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Matt talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey with TypeScript, his experience with React hooks, and advice on transitioning a team to Typescript.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:49] - Introduction to Matt Pocock.
</li>
 <li>[01:52] - A whiskey review: The Dalmore 12.
</li>
  <li>[06:58] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[19:19] - When Matt started using TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[22:30] - Converting components to TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[29:29] - The biggest mistake people make with TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[33:07] - New features coming to TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[36:36] - Advice for teams hesitant to use TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[42:40] - Matt, Chuck, and Robbie discuss football and gaming.
</li>
  <li>[48:32] - Matt's career as a voice coach.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[23:55] - “TypeScript gives you a different way of coding, and a different way is, you feel like you could just get away with anything.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></p>
<p>
[25:21] - “For me, when I’m not using TypeScript, it feels like I’m coding in low power mode.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></p>
<p>
[26:35] - “If someone gets really into TypeScript, they just love it, and they don’t stop loving it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.mattpocock.com/" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@mattpocockuk" target="_blank">Matt Pocock YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mapocock" target="_blank">Matt Pocock LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totaltypescript.com/" target="_blank">Total TypeScript </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stately.ai/" target="_blank">Stately</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thedalmore.com/en-gb/our-collections/the-principal-collection/the-12/" target="_blank">The Dalmore 12</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carinato</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Visual Studio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zod.dev/" target="_blank">Zod</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ts-error-translator.vercel.app/" target="_blank">TS Error Translator</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en" target="_blank">Magic: The Gathering</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo2.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo II</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo IV</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.footballmanager.com/" target="_blank">Football Manager</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/system/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/" target="_blank">Swindon Town FC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.arsenal.com/" target="_blank">Arsenal FC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.liverpoolfc.com/" target="_blank">Liverpool FC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/" target="_blank">Tottenham Hotspur</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.psg.fr/" target="_blank">Paris Saint-Germain</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/" target="_blank">Manchester United</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.atleticodemadrid.com/" target="_blank">Atletico Madrid </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chelseafc.com/en" target="_blank">Chelsea FC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mancity.com/news" target="_blank">Manchester City FC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.inter.it/en" target="_blank">Inter Milan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/" target="_blank">FC Barcelona</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.waze.com/" target="_blank">Waze</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>TypeScript, React, and API Issues with Matt Pocock</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vmby7o3slo437kgot01d3abx/adraiqh0bkl2lo6p2v2t52z8.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3250</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Matt Pocock, a TypeScript educator and author of &lt;em&gt;Total TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;, became an evangelist for the programing language after searching for a solution for a project plagued by API contract issues. When TypeScript brought newfound confidence and increased velocity to the team, Matt never looked back. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Matt highlights the benefits of functional components and the seamless transition from class components to hooks, leading to a happier development environment for everyone involved. From improved error detection to real-time catching of potential issues, TypeScript provides an unmatched level of comfort and productivity for developers, making it a must-have in modern development. For developers like Matt, TypeScript is more than just a tool—it&#39;s an indispensable companion. His love for TypeScript inspired him to dedicate his career to teaching other developers how to adopt and leverage the language for optimal efficiency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Matt talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey with TypeScript, his experience with React hooks, and advice on transitioning a team to Typescript.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:49] - Introduction to Matt Pocock.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:52] - A whiskey review: The Dalmore 12.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:58] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:19] - When Matt started using TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:30] - Converting components to TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:29] - The biggest mistake people make with TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:07] - New features coming to TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:36] - Advice for teams hesitant to use TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - Matt, Chuck, and Robbie discuss football and gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:32] - Matt&#39;s career as a voice coach.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:55] - “TypeScript gives you a different way of coding, and a different way is, you feel like you could just get away with anything.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:21] - “For me, when I’m not using TypeScript, it feels like I’m coding in low power mode.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:35] - “If someone gets really into TypeScript, they just love it, and they don’t stop loving it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mattpocock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/@mattpocockuk&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mapocock&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totaltypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total TypeScript &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stately.ai/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stately&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thedalmore.com/en-gb/our-collections/the-principal-collection/the-12/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Dalmore 12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carinato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zod.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ts-error-translator.vercel.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TS Error Translator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://magic.wizards.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Magic: The Gathering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo2.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo II&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo IV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.footballmanager.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Football Manager&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/system/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Swindon Town FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.arsenal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arsenal FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.liverpoolfc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Liverpool FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tottenham Hotspur&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.psg.fr/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Paris Saint-Germain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.atleticodemadrid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Atletico Madrid &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chelseafc.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chelsea FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mancity.com/news&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester City FC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.inter.it/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Inter Milan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FC Barcelona&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.waze.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Waze&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/n2akacwn2b5276pvg7fluokq/thumbnail-n2akacwn2b5276pvg7fluokq.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/n2akacwn2b5276pvg7fluokq/thumbnail-n2akacwn2b5276pvg7fluokq.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vmby7o3slo437kgot01d3abx/e8jywlfinyengt4f5ln3pkf9/transcoded-01KECKD0F14X7NYZKSN6FM0KT3-01KECKD0F1YN00HS5W5SHRSV47_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Una &amp;amp; Adam from &lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt; defend their Frontend Feud title against challengers Chuck &amp;amp; Robbie from &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;. Let’s get it on!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more info, see: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">89a6bd30-498c-4a0f-934d-f9473f817ae1</guid><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 19:32:01 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cxraxistv60ytbsxg3os2rq4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Una &amp; Adam from <a href="https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/" target="_blank">The CSS Podcast</a> defend their Frontend Feud title against challengers Chuck &amp; Robbie from <a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a>. Let’s get it on!</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>For more info, see: <a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty/285" target="_blank">https://changelog.com/jsparty/285</a></p>
<p><br></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cxraxistv60ytbsxg3os2rq4/hj0tf6ruhkqcrx901g9j2loi.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3050</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>187</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Una &amp;amp; Adam from &lt;a href=&#34;https://thecsspodcast.libsyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The CSS Podcast&lt;/a&gt; defend their Frontend Feud title against challengers Chuck &amp;amp; Robbie from &lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;. Let’s get it on!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more info, see: &lt;a href=&#34;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;https://changelog.com/jsparty/285&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cxraxistv60ytbsxg3os2rq4/okqcmb9z2xwd42gihed6eyal/transcoded-01KECKDVMSP1FP41WYSCQJTF8D-01KECKDVMSZFCFWVQA3DKD59BZ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Interviews, Contract-To-Hire, and Authenticity with Taylor Desseyn</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Navigating the current job market is proving to be a daunting task for developers, even experienced ones like Chuck. Does the hiring process need to be fixed? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Taylor Desseyn, former Managing Director at Vaco, and a seasoned recruiter with 12 years of experience, believes so. Taylor advocates for a much-needed shift in mindset among hiring managers, emphasizing the importance of meeting candidates where they are. He suggests measures such as contract-to-hire options and redo opportunities, allowing candidates to show their true potential beyond the limitations of a single interview. Taylor believes a new approach would invite more diversity and inclusion into the hiring process and make the experience more fair and effective for the candidates and the employers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about the flaws in the hiring process in the tech industry, the impact of hiring flaws on candidates, and potential solutions to create a more inclusive and effective system. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:54] - Introduction to Taylor Desseyn.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - A whiskey review: Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:30] - Why hiring is broken.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[26:41] - Podcasts that Taylor has on rotation.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[29:42] - Negative experiences with HOAs.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:43] - Taylor talks about his horses.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:21] - Taylor discusses his upbringing.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[11:18] - “To me, I would say that company missed out on a great talent, you, because they were too concerned about the industry.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:50] - “I think 60% to 70% of the interview needs to be the company selling the opportunity to the candidate.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:14] - “Because of COVID, one thing I’ve realized is that we’re all overworked.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylordesseyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vaco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vaco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://copperskydistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sc.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;University of South Carolina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WL Weller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fbfs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Farm Bureau Financial Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carrot.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Carrot Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Enemy-Ryan-Holiday/dp/1591847818&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ego Is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/longwinded-by-nature/id1656131694&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LongWinded by Nature&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/group-chat/id1311062310&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Group Chat &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/guidance-counselor-2-0/id1256154656&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guidance Counselor 2.0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/shoptalk/id493890455&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShopTalk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twilio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twilio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amway.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">6a6eb898-e185-4d77-9820-ece9b8cc78b7</guid><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2023 00:26:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/c8o1ktzguqck29sfo0iekpzn.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navigating the current job market is proving to be a daunting task for developers, even experienced ones like Chuck. Does the hiring process need to be fixed? </p>
<p>
Taylor Desseyn, former Managing Director at Vaco, and a seasoned recruiter with 12 years of experience, believes so. Taylor advocates for a much-needed shift in mindset among hiring managers, emphasizing the importance of meeting candidates where they are. He suggests measures such as contract-to-hire options and redo opportunities, allowing candidates to show their true potential beyond the limitations of a single interview. Taylor believes a new approach would invite more diversity and inclusion into the hiring process and make the experience more fair and effective for the candidates and the employers. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about the flaws in the hiring process in the tech industry, the impact of hiring flaws on candidates, and potential solutions to create a more inclusive and effective system. <br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:54] - Introduction to Taylor Desseyn.
</li>
 <li>[01:47] - A whiskey review: Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[09:30] - Why hiring is broken.
</li>
 <li>[26:41] - Podcasts that Taylor has on rotation.
</li>
 <li>[29:42] - Negative experiences with HOAs.
</li>
 <li>[32:43] - Taylor talks about his horses.
</li>
 <li>[44:21] - Taylor discusses his upbringing.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[11:18] - “To me, I would say that company missed out on a great talent, you, because they were too concerned about the industry.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn</a></p>
<p>
[22:50] - “I think 60% to 70% of the interview needs to be the company selling the opportunity to the candidate.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn</a></p>
<p>
[36:14] - “Because of COVID, one thing I’ve realized is that we’re all overworked.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
 <li><a href="https://www.taylordesseyn.com/" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/tdesseyn" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/" target="_blank">Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vaco.com/" target="_blank">Vaco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://copperskydistillery.com/" target="_blank">Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sc.edu/" target="_blank">University of South Carolina</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html" target="_blank">WL Weller</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fbfs.com/" target="_blank">Farm Bureau Financial Services</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/bdougieYO" target="_blank">Brian Douglas </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://opensauced.pizza/" target="_blank">OpenSauced</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://carrot.tech/" target="_blank">Carrot Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Enemy-Ryan-Holiday/dp/1591847818" target="_blank">Ego Is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/longwinded-by-nature/id1656131694" target="_blank">LongWinded by Nature</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/group-chat/id1311062310" target="_blank">Group Chat </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/en/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/guidance-counselor-2-0/id1256154656" target="_blank">Guidance Counselor 2.0</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/shoptalk/id493890455" target="_blank">ShopTalk</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.twilio.com/" target="_blank">Twilio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amway.com/" target="_blank">Amway</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Interviews, Contract-To-Hire, and Authenticity with Taylor Desseyn</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c8o1ktzguqck29sfo0iekpzn/u5bxbf2e9o1qsn307vp131wz.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3230</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>101</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Navigating the current job market is proving to be a daunting task for developers, even experienced ones like Chuck. Does the hiring process need to be fixed? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Taylor Desseyn, former Managing Director at Vaco, and a seasoned recruiter with 12 years of experience, believes so. Taylor advocates for a much-needed shift in mindset among hiring managers, emphasizing the importance of meeting candidates where they are. He suggests measures such as contract-to-hire options and redo opportunities, allowing candidates to show their true potential beyond the limitations of a single interview. Taylor believes a new approach would invite more diversity and inclusion into the hiring process and make the experience more fair and effective for the candidates and the employers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Taylor talks to Robbie and Chuck about the flaws in the hiring process in the tech industry, the impact of hiring flaws on candidates, and potential solutions to create a more inclusive and effective system. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:54] - Introduction to Taylor Desseyn.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:47] - A whiskey review: Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:30] - Why hiring is broken.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[26:41] - Podcasts that Taylor has on rotation.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[29:42] - Negative experiences with HOAs.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[32:43] - Taylor talks about his horses.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[44:21] - Taylor discusses his upbringing.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[11:18] - “To me, I would say that company missed out on a great talent, you, because they were too concerned about the industry.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:50] - “I think 60% to 70% of the interview needs to be the company selling the opportunity to the candidate.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:14] - “Because of COVID, one thing I’ve realized is that we’re all overworked.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Ftdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taylordesseyn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tdesseyn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylordesseyn/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taylor Desseyn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vaco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vaco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://copperskydistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Copper Sky Distillery Wheat Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sc.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;University of South Carolina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WL Weller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fbfs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Farm Bureau Financial Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carrot.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Carrot Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Enemy-Ryan-Holiday/dp/1591847818&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ego Is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/longwinded-by-nature/id1656131694&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LongWinded by Nature&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/group-chat/id1311062310&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Group Chat &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tiktok.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/shoptalk/id493890455&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShopTalk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/l49oajxqv3num404gzofhrdv/thumbnail-l49oajxqv3num404gzofhrdv.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/l49oajxqv3num404gzofhrdv/thumbnail-l49oajxqv3num404gzofhrdv.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/c8o1ktzguqck29sfo0iekpzn/uajmuyts9wdkkn8ot2jhb51k/transcoded-01KECKE0MDW1RH6K415AVNBHA9-01KECKE0MD13R5F5N0EHZ7YXKD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/c8o1ktzguqck29sfo0iekpzn.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Whiskey Web and Whatnot 100th Episode Round Table with Chris Coyier, Scott Tolinski, Tracy Lee, and Wes Bos</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this milestone 100th episode, Chuck and Robbie are joined by a round table of industry experts and web developers with different philosophies, preferences, and experiences in the tech space to share their opinions on the state of web development. The round table includes Chris Coyier, Co-Founder of CodePen; Scott Tolinski, former Owner of Level Up Tutorials; Tracy Lee, CEO and Co-Founder of This Dot Labs; and Wes Bos, Founder of BosType Inc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The panel shares their opinions on the state of web development, reflecting on the journey from vanilla JavaScript to the rise of Tailwind CSS. They delve into the impact of Tailwind CSS on modern web development, discuss exciting new front-end APIs like the View Transitions API and Anchor Positioning API, and emphasize the importance of mastering JavaScript fundamentals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck bring industry experts together for a captivating discussion filled with valuable insights on the evolution of front-end development, new web technologies, and their interests outside of web development.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:43] - An introduction to the round table of industry experts.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:47] - A whiskey review: Sagamore and Benchmark.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:14] - Scott’s experience using popover API.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:18] - Chuck discusses Chris’ talk at RenderATL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:38] - How ChatGPT is negatively affecting Mozilla Firefox.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:21] - What each guest would do if they weren’t in web development?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:46] - Interesting topics on Chuck’s Twitter feed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:46] - What makes a milk?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:11] - “CSS is getting so complex now that it has to be compiled.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:15] - “Yeah, man, HTML rules.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:33] - “People stopped using Google as much, they’re going to AI.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chriscoyier?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ca.linkedin.com/in/wesbos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tolin.ski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ladyleet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tracy Lee Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracyslee/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tracy Lee LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly/status/1526241449951510531?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/syntax-tasty-web-development-treats/id1253186678&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://levelup.video/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Level Up Tutorials&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thisdot.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;This Dot Labs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modern-web.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Modern Web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/benchmark.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Benchmark Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.traderjoes.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Trader Joe’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Smartless Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.blackrock.com/corporate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BlackRock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferrari &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wish.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Make-A-Wish Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/apple-news/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b55c8076-812b-48b8-8f62-13bcedb8f8a0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/izfdjs6y3v46ea1tcnlldax1.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this milestone 100th episode, Chuck and Robbie are joined by a round table of industry experts and web developers with different philosophies, preferences, and experiences in the tech space to share their opinions on the state of web development. The round table includes Chris Coyier, Co-Founder of CodePen; Scott Tolinski, former Owner of Level Up Tutorials; Tracy Lee, CEO and Co-Founder of This Dot Labs; and Wes Bos, Founder of BosType Inc.</p>
<p>
The panel shares their opinions on the state of web development, reflecting on the journey from vanilla JavaScript to the rise of Tailwind CSS. They delve into the impact of Tailwind CSS on modern web development, discuss exciting new front-end APIs like the View Transitions API and Anchor Positioning API, and emphasize the importance of mastering JavaScript fundamentals.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck bring industry experts together for a captivating discussion filled with valuable insights on the evolution of front-end development, new web technologies, and their interests outside of web development.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:43] - An introduction to the round table of industry experts.
</li>
 <li>[03:47] - A whiskey review: Sagamore and Benchmark.
</li>
  <li>[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[21:14] - Scott’s experience using popover API.
</li>
  <li>[23:18] - Chuck discusses Chris’ talk at RenderATL.
</li>
  <li>[24:38] - How ChatGPT is negatively affecting Mozilla Firefox.
</li>
  <li>[28:21] - What each guest would do if they weren’t in web development?
</li>
  <li>[32:46] - Interesting topics on Chuck’s Twitter feed.
</li>
  <li>[40:46] - What makes a milk?
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[09:11] - “CSS is getting so complex now that it has to be compiled.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></p>
<p>
[23:15] - “Yeah, man, HTML rules.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski </a></p>
<p>
[25:33] - “People stopped using Google as much, they’re going to AI.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/chriscoyier?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Chris Coyier Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100" target="_blank">Chris Coyier LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en" target="_blank">Wes Bos Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ca.linkedin.com/in/wesbos" target="_blank">Wes Bos LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tolin.ski/" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ladyleet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Tracy Lee Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracyslee/" target="_blank">Tracy Lee LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/kvlly/status/1526241449951510531?lang=en" target="_blank">Kelly Vaughn Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn" target="_blank">Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">CodePen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/syntax-tasty-web-development-treats/id1253186678" target="_blank">Syntax Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://levelup.video/" target="_blank">Level Up Tutorials</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thisdot.co/" target="_blank">This Dot Labs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://modern-web.dev/" target="_blank">Modern Web</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/benchmark.html" target="_blank">Benchmark Kentucky Straight Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxt.com/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/" target="_blank">Safari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Mozilla Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/" target="_blank">WWCD23</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/" target="_blank">IMBD</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects.html" target="_blank">Adobe After Effects</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thedalmore.com/en-gb/our-collections/the-principal-collection/the-12/" target="_blank">The Dalmore 12</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kenswrong.com/" target="_blank">Ken Wheeler</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/home" target="_blank">Trader Joe’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868" target="_blank">Smartless Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.blackrock.com/corporate" target="_blank">BlackRock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ferrari.com/" target="_blank">Ferrari </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wish.org/" target="_blank">Make-A-Wish Foundation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/apple-news/" target="_blank">Apple News</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Whiskey Web and Whatnot 100th Episode Round Table with Chris Coyier, Scott Tolinski, Tracy Lee, and Wes Bos</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/izfdjs6y3v46ea1tcnlldax1/gwc68bm6ubxtmsjj0rmmu6hh.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3273</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>100</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this milestone 100th episode, Chuck and Robbie are joined by a round table of industry experts and web developers with different philosophies, preferences, and experiences in the tech space to share their opinions on the state of web development. The round table includes Chris Coyier, Co-Founder of CodePen; Scott Tolinski, former Owner of Level Up Tutorials; Tracy Lee, CEO and Co-Founder of This Dot Labs; and Wes Bos, Founder of BosType Inc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The panel shares their opinions on the state of web development, reflecting on the journey from vanilla JavaScript to the rise of Tailwind CSS. They delve into the impact of Tailwind CSS on modern web development, discuss exciting new front-end APIs like the View Transitions API and Anchor Positioning API, and emphasize the importance of mastering JavaScript fundamentals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck bring industry experts together for a captivating discussion filled with valuable insights on the evolution of front-end development, new web technologies, and their interests outside of web development.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:43] - An introduction to the round table of industry experts.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:47] - A whiskey review: Sagamore and Benchmark.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:14] - Scott’s experience using popover API.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:18] - Chuck discusses Chris’ talk at RenderATL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:38] - How ChatGPT is negatively affecting Mozilla Firefox.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:21] - What each guest would do if they weren’t in web development?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:46] - Interesting topics on Chuck’s Twitter feed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:46] - What makes a milk?
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:11] - “CSS is getting so complex now that it has to be compiled.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:15] - “Yeah, man, HTML rules.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:33] - “People stopped using Google as much, they’re going to AI.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chriscoyier?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-coyier-1aa843100&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ca.linkedin.com/in/wesbos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tolin.ski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ladyleet?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tracy Lee Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracyslee/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tracy Lee LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kvlly/status/1526241449951510531?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/syntax-tasty-web-development-treats/id1253186678&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://levelup.video/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Level Up Tutorials&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thisdot.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;This Dot Labs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modern-web.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Modern Web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/benchmark.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Benchmark Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WWCD23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;IMBD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe After Effects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thedalmore.com/en-gb/our-collections/the-principal-collection/the-12/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Dalmore 12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kenswrong.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ken Wheeler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.traderjoes.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Trader Joe’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Smartless Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.blackrock.com/corporate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BlackRock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferrari &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wish.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Make-A-Wish Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/apple-news/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/x880cq2isb6taaz4td769t2z/thumbnail-x880cq2isb6taaz4td769t2z.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/x880cq2isb6taaz4td769t2z/thumbnail-x880cq2isb6taaz4td769t2z.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/izfdjs6y3v46ea1tcnlldax1/uo5hk03f2hg94w4ezxcpeq37/transcoded-01KECKDYXWCTJKQZK51H9R2RX5-01KECKDYXWJQAWSMYNQ1HSQT3Z_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>OpenSauced, Developer Advocacy, and AI with Brian Douglas</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Brian Douglas, Founder and CEO at OpenSauced, learned to code while pursuing his MBA and stayed up-to-date with the latest trends and technologies by tuning into podcasts and blogs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Brian’s passion eventually caught the attention of Netlify, where he joined as an advocate. Later, he became the first advocate at GitHub, building out a developer relations team. Brian shares insights into the open-source world and the challenges faced by maintainers. He introduces his current venture, OpenSauced.pizza, which aims to improve GitHub insights and provide valuable knowledge about open-source contributions and tech debt. Brian mentions plans to expand the platform&#39;s support to include other Git host providers like GitLab and Bitbucket.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Brian talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey from developer to developer advocate, the importance of developer experience, and his current project, OpenSauced.pizza, focusing on GitHub insights with plans to expand to support other Git host providers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Brian Douglas.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:59] - A whiskey review: Teeling Whiskey Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:42] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:03] - How Brian got into developer advocacy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:39] - Brian talks about OpenSauced.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:15] - Future plans for OpenSauced. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:09] - Chuck asks Brian to teach him how to Dougie.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:06] - Brian explains how to start a podcast.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - What Brian is most excited about with AI.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:08] - “Everyone complains about how many Spidermans have we seen or Batman origin stories we’ve seen, but it’s the same thing on the web.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:53] - “We want to move away from the big brother-like tools that exist.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:11] - “My thing is, just do it. If it doesn&#39;t work out, use all that to start a new one.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianldouglas/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://littlecaesars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Little Caesars &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teelingwhiskey.com/teeling-whiskeys/wonders-of-wood/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Teeling Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.worlddrinksawards.com/news/whisky-magazines-icons-of-whisky-and-world-whiskies-awards-2022-scotland-results-unveiled-at-in-per&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;World Drinks Awards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#talks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jamstack-radio/id1148797643&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jamstack Radio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flutter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flutter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Vision&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pizzahut.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pizza Hut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Copilot &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.amazon.com/alexa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alexa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stack Overflow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sxsw.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SXSW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://news.opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sauced Newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7be3ce3d-056e-4a74-9449-b68f8cfb0246</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vi9vio9m81d9359hzy1ub2nf.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Douglas, Founder and CEO at OpenSauced, learned to code while pursuing his MBA and stayed up-to-date with the latest trends and technologies by tuning into podcasts and blogs.</p>
<p>
Brian’s passion eventually caught the attention of Netlify, where he joined as an advocate. Later, he became the first advocate at GitHub, building out a developer relations team. Brian shares insights into the open-source world and the challenges faced by maintainers. He introduces his current venture, OpenSauced.pizza, which aims to improve GitHub insights and provide valuable knowledge about open-source contributions and tech debt. Brian mentions plans to expand the platform's support to include other Git host providers like GitLab and Bitbucket.<br>In this episode, Brian talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey from developer to developer advocate, the importance of developer experience, and his current project, OpenSauced.pizza, focusing on GitHub insights with plans to expand to support other Git host providers. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:31] - Introduction to Brian Douglas.
</li>
 <li>[01:59] - A whiskey review: Teeling Whiskey Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still.
</li>
  <li>[08:42] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[15:03] - How Brian got into developer advocacy.
</li>
  <li>[25:39] - Brian talks about OpenSauced.
</li>
  <li>[32:15] - Future plans for OpenSauced. 
</li>
  <li>[37:09] - Chuck asks Brian to teach him how to Dougie.
</li>
  <li>[38:06] - Brian explains how to start a podcast.
</li>
  <li>[42:40] - What Brian is most excited about with AI.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[21:08] - “Everyone complains about how many Spidermans have we seen or Batman origin stories we’ve seen, but it’s the same thing on the web.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/bdougieYO" target="_blank">Brian Douglas</a></p>
<p>
[26:53] - “We want to move away from the big brother-like tools that exist.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/bdougieYO" target="_blank">Brian Douglas</a></p>
<p>
[39:11] - “My thing is, just do it. If it doesn't work out, use all that to start a new one.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/bdougieYO" target="_blank">Brian Douglas</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/bdougieYO" target="_blank">Brian Douglas Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianldouglas/" target="_blank">Brian Douglas LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">Github</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://opensauced.pizza/" target="_blank">OpenSauced</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://littlecaesars.com/" target="_blank">Little Caesars </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.teelingwhiskey.com/teeling-whiskeys/wonders-of-wood/" target="_blank">Teeling Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/" target="_blank">Jameson Irish Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.worlddrinksawards.com/news/whisky-magazines-icons-of-whisky-and-world-whiskies-awards-2022-scotland-results-unveiled-at-in-per" target="_blank">World Drinks Awards</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#talks" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jamstack-radio/id1148797643" target="_blank">Jamstack Radio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">Supabase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://firebase.google.com/" target="_blank">Firebase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://flutter.dev/" target="_blank">Flutter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/" target="_blank">Apple Vision</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in" target="_blank">GitLab</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pizzahut.com/" target="_blank">Pizza Hut</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">GitHub Copilot </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.amazon.com/alexa" target="_blank">Alexa</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stackoverflow.com/" target="_blank">Stack Overflow</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sxsw.com/" target="_blank">SXSW</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://news.opensauced.pizza/" target="_blank">Sauced Newsletter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>OpenSauced, Developer Advocacy, and AI with Brian Douglas</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vi9vio9m81d9359hzy1ub2nf/sd3ykmf1siejd7awd6sz307p.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3078</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>99</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Brian Douglas, Founder and CEO at OpenSauced, learned to code while pursuing his MBA and stayed up-to-date with the latest trends and technologies by tuning into podcasts and blogs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Brian’s passion eventually caught the attention of Netlify, where he joined as an advocate. Later, he became the first advocate at GitHub, building out a developer relations team. Brian shares insights into the open-source world and the challenges faced by maintainers. He introduces his current venture, OpenSauced.pizza, which aims to improve GitHub insights and provide valuable knowledge about open-source contributions and tech debt. Brian mentions plans to expand the platform&#39;s support to include other Git host providers like GitLab and Bitbucket.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Brian talks to Robbie and Chuck about his journey from developer to developer advocate, the importance of developer experience, and his current project, OpenSauced.pizza, focusing on GitHub insights with plans to expand to support other Git host providers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Brian Douglas.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:59] - A whiskey review: Teeling Whiskey Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:42] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:03] - How Brian got into developer advocacy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:39] - Brian talks about OpenSauced.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:15] - Future plans for OpenSauced. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:09] - Chuck asks Brian to teach him how to Dougie.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:06] - Brian explains how to start a podcast.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:40] - What Brian is most excited about with AI.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:08] - “Everyone complains about how many Spidermans have we seen or Batman origin stories we’ve seen, but it’s the same thing on the web.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:53] - “We want to move away from the big brother-like tools that exist.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:11] - “My thing is, just do it. If it doesn&#39;t work out, use all that to start a new one.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/bdougieYO&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianldouglas/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Douglas LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenSauced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://littlecaesars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Little Caesars &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teelingwhiskey.com/teeling-whiskeys/wonders-of-wood/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Teeling Wonders of Wood Single Pot Still&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.worlddrinksawards.com/news/whisky-magazines-icons-of-whisky-and-world-whiskies-awards-2022-scotland-results-unveiled-at-in-per&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;World Drinks Awards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#talks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jamstack-radio/id1148797643&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jamstack Radio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flutter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flutter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Vision&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pizzahut.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pizza Hut&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Copilot &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.amazon.com/alexa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alexa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stack Overflow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sxsw.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SXSW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://news.opensauced.pizza/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sauced Newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner?s=20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qoxqybr303jdii4u8e5t4iit/thumbnail-qoxqybr303jdii4u8e5t4iit.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/qoxqybr303jdii4u8e5t4iit/thumbnail-qoxqybr303jdii4u8e5t4iit.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vi9vio9m81d9359hzy1ub2nf/ccagq90s8urg26tjec1ruqqj/transcoded-01KECKDWFC1E84J2Y3Y7Z3X9EX-01KECKDWFCNDY6Q73D13DV0HZG_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Careers, Hot Takes, and Wix with Emmy Cao and Yoav Abrahami</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie are joined by Emmy Cao, Developer Advocate at Wix, and Yoav Abrahami, Chief Architect at Wix at the RenderATL 2023 conference to talk all things tech, including whether low code, no code tools are making developers obsolete.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Emmy and Yoav delve into Wix’s code-first approach, where users can write code and then create screens that modify that code visually. They highlight the accessibility of Wix&#39;s platform for designers and individuals new to development, allowing them to learn coding concepts with ease. They also discuss the inclusivity of the developer community, acknowledging that coding proficiency does not define one&#39;s legitimacy as a developer. They appreciate the democratization of coding and the potential for more people to learn and engage with technology through platforms like Wix.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Emmy and Yoav talk to Robbie and Chuck about their perspective on popular tech debates on Twitter, the evolving nature of developer roles, and the concept of no-code and low-code platforms like Wix.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:25] - Introduction to Emmy Cao and Yoav Abrahami.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:05] - A whiskey review: Castle and Key - Restoration Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] - Yoav and Emmy speak about tech careers and tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:17] - Yoav and Emmy discuss the direction Wix is going in.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:46] - Vendor lock-in at Wix.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:06] - Emmy talks about e-sports coaching.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:36] - Yoav’s walk from Israel to the United States.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:01] - “Development is about the experience, getting something done, getting software shipped, fixing these problems.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:03] - “Thirty years ago, it was just a developer alone sitting behind a computer coding.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:48] - “Honestly, I don’t think coding is as hard as people make it out to be.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/emmycacao&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/emmycacao?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmycao/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/yoavabrahami/?originalSubdomain=il&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/DevsOnWix&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Devs on Wix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.castleandkey.com/products/restoration-rye-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Castle and Key: Restoration Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.douglaslaing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Douglas Laing &amp;amp; Co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fireball Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/jm/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO Max&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.peacocktv.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peacock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wix.com/velo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Velo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.squarespace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Squarespace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://headlessui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Headless UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.codux.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Codux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS Lambda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roblox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roblox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.valvesoftware.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Valve Corporation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0a410347-3548-41f1-8eb2-bea48672c8bc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cy6c8ytznnlwd6b9puyr64rj.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck and Robbie are joined by Emmy Cao, Developer Advocate at Wix, and Yoav Abrahami, Chief Architect at Wix at the RenderATL 2023 conference to talk all things tech, including whether low code, no code tools are making developers obsolete.
</p><p>Emmy and Yoav delve into Wix’s code-first approach, where users can write code and then create screens that modify that code visually. They highlight the accessibility of Wix's platform for designers and individuals new to development, allowing them to learn coding concepts with ease. They also discuss the inclusivity of the developer community, acknowledging that coding proficiency does not define one's legitimacy as a developer. They appreciate the democratization of coding and the potential for more people to learn and engage with technology through platforms like Wix.</p>
<p>In this episode, Emmy and Yoav talk to Robbie and Chuck about their perspective on popular tech debates on Twitter, the evolving nature of developer roles, and the concept of no-code and low-code platforms like Wix.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:25] - Introduction to Emmy Cao and Yoav Abrahami.
</li>
 <li>[01:05] - A whiskey review: Castle and Key - Restoration Rye Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[11:26] - Yoav and Emmy speak about tech careers and tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[33:17] - Yoav and Emmy discuss the direction Wix is going in.
</li>
  <li>[47:46] - Vendor lock-in at Wix.
</li>
  <li>[52:06] - Emmy talks about e-sports coaching.
</li>
  <li>[56:36] - Yoav’s walk from Israel to the United States.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[14:01] - “Development is about the experience, getting something done, getting software shipped, fixing these problems.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami" target="_blank">Yoav Abrahami</a></p>
<p>
[15:03] - “Thirty years ago, it was just a developer alone sitting behind a computer coding.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami" target="_blank">Yoav Abrahami</a></p>
<p>
[41:48] - “Honestly, I don’t think coding is as hard as people make it out to be.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/emmycacao" target="_blank">Emmy Cao</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/emmycacao?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Emmy Cao Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmycao/" target="_blank">Emmy Cao LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami?lang=en" target="_blank">Yoav Abrahami Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/yoavabrahami/?originalSubdomain=il" target="_blank">Yoav Abrahami LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wix.com/" target="_blank">Wix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/DevsOnWix" target="_blank">Devs on Wix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.castleandkey.com/products/restoration-rye-whiskey" target="_blank">Castle and Key: Restoration Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.douglaslaing.com/" target="_blank">Douglas Laing &amp; Co</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html" target="_blank">Fireball Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chickencockwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Chicken Cock Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/jm/en" target="_blank">HBO Max</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/" target="_blank">Peacock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wix.com/velo" target="_blank">Velo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank">OpenAI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.squarespace.com/" target="_blank">Squarespace</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://headlessui.com/" target="_blank">Headless UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.codux.com/" target="_blank">Codux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html" target="_blank">Adobe Dreamweaver</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/" target="_blank">AWS Lambda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.roblox.com/" target="_blank">Roblox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.valvesoftware.com/" target="_blank">Valve Corporation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/fifa" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Careers, Hot Takes, and Wix with Emmy Cao and Yoav Abrahami</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cy6c8ytznnlwd6b9puyr64rj/d9wd3ew4qigodczfa84mgz8v.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3788</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>98</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie are joined by Emmy Cao, Developer Advocate at Wix, and Yoav Abrahami, Chief Architect at Wix at the RenderATL 2023 conference to talk all things tech, including whether low code, no code tools are making developers obsolete.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Emmy and Yoav delve into Wix’s code-first approach, where users can write code and then create screens that modify that code visually. They highlight the accessibility of Wix&#39;s platform for designers and individuals new to development, allowing them to learn coding concepts with ease. They also discuss the inclusivity of the developer community, acknowledging that coding proficiency does not define one&#39;s legitimacy as a developer. They appreciate the democratization of coding and the potential for more people to learn and engage with technology through platforms like Wix.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Emmy and Yoav talk to Robbie and Chuck about their perspective on popular tech debates on Twitter, the evolving nature of developer roles, and the concept of no-code and low-code platforms like Wix.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:25] - Introduction to Emmy Cao and Yoav Abrahami.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:05] - A whiskey review: Castle and Key - Restoration Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:26] - Yoav and Emmy speak about tech careers and tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:17] - Yoav and Emmy discuss the direction Wix is going in.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:46] - Vendor lock-in at Wix.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:06] - Emmy talks about e-sports coaching.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[56:36] - Yoav’s walk from Israel to the United States.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:01] - “Development is about the experience, getting something done, getting software shipped, fixing these problems.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:03] - “Thirty years ago, it was just a developer alone sitting behind a computer coding.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:48] - “Honestly, I don’t think coding is as hard as people make it out to be.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/emmycacao&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/emmycacao?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmycao/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emmy Cao LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/yoavabrahami?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/yoavabrahami/?originalSubdomain=il&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yoav Abrahami LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/DevsOnWix&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Devs on Wix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.castleandkey.com/products/restoration-rye-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Castle and Key: Restoration Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.douglaslaing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Douglas Laing &amp;amp; Co&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fireball Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/jm/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO Max&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.peacocktv.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peacock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wix.com/velo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Velo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.squarespace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Squarespace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://headlessui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Headless UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.codux.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Codux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS Lambda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roblox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roblox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.valvesoftware.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Valve Corporation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cy6c8ytznnlwd6b9puyr64rj/ro4f32of3myafhhgu2hndiii/transcoded-01KECKE12VN1C65D821PT7BXN0-01KECKE12V9SP563J7T6DV4TB9_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, Remix, and Next.js with Chance Strickland</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie catch up with Chance Strickland, Senior Software Engineer at Replo, at the RenderATL conference. Chance kicks off the conversation by sharing that he is now working at a small startup after leaving the Remix core team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The trio discuss the benefits and drawbacks of using signals, a tool that helps manage asynchronous JavaScript. They explore how signals can enhance code readability and simplify complex workflows, but caution against potential performance issues and the learning curve involved. The conversation shifts to rebasing, with Chance providing insights into its usage and advantages. He explains how rebasing can help maintain a clean Git history and enable seamless collaboration in a team setting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chance talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experiences with tools like Tailwind, rebasing in Git, and the pros and cons of using signals in web development. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:57] - Introduction to Chance Strickland.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:11] -  A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:25] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:17] - Chance’s opinion on Tailwind CSS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:07] - What Chance loves about Next.js.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:59] - Why Chance is skipping leg day.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:55] - “You can’t just come in and swing a hammer at everything because you read someone somewhere said this. You have to think about all of that context and understand.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:47] - “Tailwind really is just a tool built on a CSS Principle.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:28] - “The thing that keeps me coming back is the very simple promise that React has always given, which is, your UI is a function of your state.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaance/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fronttoback.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FrontToBack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.replo.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Replo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.radix-ui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Radix UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbem.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BEM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.astro.com/h/index_e.htm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/_developit?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Miller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GoDaddy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.land/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shakeshack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shake Shack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;In-N-Out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salsas.com/chi-chis/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chi-Chi’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gus’s Fried Chicken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cracker Barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">73c45994-9dfc-4978-874b-cbe216248882</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ge2g15u06nssnt87nvzjk1va.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck and Robbie catch up with Chance Strickland, Senior Software Engineer at Replo, at the RenderATL conference. Chance kicks off the conversation by sharing that he is now working at a small startup after leaving the Remix core team.</p>
<p>
The trio discuss the benefits and drawbacks of using signals, a tool that helps manage asynchronous JavaScript. They explore how signals can enhance code readability and simplify complex workflows, but caution against potential performance issues and the learning curve involved. The conversation shifts to rebasing, with Chance providing insights into its usage and advantages. He explains how rebasing can help maintain a clean Git history and enable seamless collaboration in a team setting.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chance talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experiences with tools like Tailwind, rebasing in Git, and the pros and cons of using signals in web development. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:57] - Introduction to Chance Strickland.
</li>
 <li>[04:11] -  A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Bourbon.
</li>
  <li>[12:25] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[19:17] - Chance’s opinion on Tailwind CSS.
</li>
  <li>[37:07] - What Chance loves about Next.js.
</li>
  <li>[45:59] - Why Chance is skipping leg day.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:55] - “You can’t just come in and swing a hammer at everything because you read someone somewhere said this. You have to think about all of that context and understand.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/chancethedev" target="_blank">Chance Strickland</a></p>
<p>
[20:47] - “Tailwind really is just a tool built on a CSS Principle.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/chancethedev" target="_blank">Chance Strickland</a></p>
<p>
[28:28] - “The thing that keeps me coming back is the very simple promise that React has always given, which is, your UI is a function of your state.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/chancethedev" target="_blank">Chance Strickland</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/chancethedev?lang=en" target="_blank">Chance Strickland Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaance/" target="_blank">Chance Strickland LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fronttoback.dev/" target="_blank">FrontToBack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.replo.app/" target="_blank">Replo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.radix-ui.com/" target="_blank">Radix UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chickencockwhiskey.com/our-whiskey/" target="_blank">Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.doordash.com/" target="_blank">DoorDash</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.skrewballwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Skrewball Peanut Butter Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html" target="_blank">Fireball</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">Kent C. Dodds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbem.com/" target="_blank">BEM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.astro.com/h/index_e.htm" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/_developit?lang=en" target="_blank">Jason Miller</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://preactjs.com/" target="_blank">Preact</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.godaddy.com/" target="_blank">GoDaddy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank">AWS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://deno.land/" target="_blank">Deno</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cloudflare.com/" target="_blank">Cloudflare</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shakeshack.com/" target="_blank">Shake Shack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.in-n-out.com/" target="_blank">In-N-Out</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">Taco Bell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.salsas.com/chi-chis/" target="_blank">Chi-Chi’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/" target="_blank">Gus’s Fried Chicken</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.crackerbarrel.com/" target="_blank">Cracker Barrel</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, Remix, and Next.js with Chance Strickland</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ge2g15u06nssnt87nvzjk1va/iot2icootvhnw3ty1ee5f1fj.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3594</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>97</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie catch up with Chance Strickland, Senior Software Engineer at Replo, at the RenderATL conference. Chance kicks off the conversation by sharing that he is now working at a small startup after leaving the Remix core team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The trio discuss the benefits and drawbacks of using signals, a tool that helps manage asynchronous JavaScript. They explore how signals can enhance code readability and simplify complex workflows, but caution against potential performance issues and the learning curve involved. The conversation shifts to rebasing, with Chance providing insights into its usage and advantages. He explains how rebasing can help maintain a clean Git history and enable seamless collaboration in a team setting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chance talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experiences with tools like Tailwind, rebasing in Git, and the pros and cons of using signals in web development. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:57] - Introduction to Chance Strickland.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:11] -  A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:25] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:17] - Chance’s opinion on Tailwind CSS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:07] - What Chance loves about Next.js.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:59] - Why Chance is skipping leg day.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:55] - “You can’t just come in and swing a hammer at everything because you read someone somewhere said this. You have to think about all of that context and understand.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:47] - “Tailwind really is just a tool built on a CSS Principle.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:28] - “The thing that keeps me coming back is the very simple promise that React has always given, which is, your UI is a function of your state.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chancethedev?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaance/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chance Strickland LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fronttoback.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FrontToBack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.replo.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Replo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.radix-ui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Radix UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chickencockwhiskey.com/our-whiskey/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.doordash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DoorDash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/content/buffalotracedistillery/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.skrewballwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skrewball Peanut Butter Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fireballwhisky.com/content/fireball/us/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fireball&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbem.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BEM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.astro.com/h/index_e.htm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/_developit?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Miller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GoDaddy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.land/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shakeshack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shake Shack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.in-n-out.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;In-N-Out&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salsas.com/chi-chis/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chi-Chi’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gusfriedchicken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gus’s Fried Chicken&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crackerbarrel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cracker Barrel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd/with_replies&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ge2g15u06nssnt87nvzjk1va/xcdms4lnkfkr4f77zmbcpnbl/transcoded-01KECKD0NH44Z3RT8FKFJNTA1N-01KECKD0NHRYVMBYDK8Z69W32D_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Web Browsers, Level Up Tutorials, and Sentry with Scott Tolinski</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie are joined by Scott Tolinski, Executive Producer at Sentry, for a recorded chat from the RenderATL conference. The trio delves into lively discussions on various tech topics and shares their candid opinions on ongoing Twitter debates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Scott opens up about his role at Sentry and how the acquisition has impacted his other venture, Level Up Tutorials. He sheds light on the new direction of Level Up Video and the exciting opportunities it brings for delivering free web development content. Scott also emphasizes the advantages of partnering with Sentry and the increased focus it allows for Syntax. He also provides insights on using a PostCSS plugin to deploy custom media queries and addresses the progress of Safari and its position compared to Internet Explorer (IE) as the browser with the poorest support for certain features. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Scott talks to Chuck and Robbie about custom media queries, browser support for new CSS features, and the acquisition of Level Up Tutorials. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Introduction to Scott Tolinski.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:41] - A whiskey review: The Macallan Double Cask 12 Years Old.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:11] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:22] - Scott talks about new features in CSS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:29] - Features supported in the top web browsers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:30] - How Scott&#39;s position at Sentry affects Level Up Tutorials.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:14] - Tools available that aren’t used frequently.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:33] - Tools in the works that excite Scott.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:36] -  Scott talks about his time as an accountant and breakdancer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:10] - The most uncool things Scott likes to do.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:41] - “People just repeat what the library authors have said over and over again even if they don’t necessarily know what that means.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:44] - “Between Firefox and Safari, they’re really close into who has the worst support for things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:33] - “People don’t realize that, to use the clipboard API, it’s a one-liner of JavaScript that is really easy to remember, but everybody reaches for a library.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tolin.ski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://levelup.video/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Level Up Tutorials&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/welcome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stranahans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stranahan&#39;s - Colorado Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bootstrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amyskapers.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amy Kapernick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colbyfayock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Colby Fayock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Quick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document_Object_Model&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DOM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guitarworld.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guitar World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://umich.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;University of Michigan &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ghostly International&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostly.com/artists/matthew-dear&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matthew Dear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bravotv.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bravo TV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fc1d1aa9-1fc5-4e66-b8c1-4c9652c65641</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 07:00:49 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/orkp92gbsn3ooxcgpm8uukyp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck and Robbie are joined by Scott Tolinski, Executive Producer at Sentry, for a recorded chat from the RenderATL conference. The trio delves into lively discussions on various tech topics and shares their candid opinions on ongoing Twitter debates.</p>
<p>
Scott opens up about his role at Sentry and how the acquisition has impacted his other venture, Level Up Tutorials. He sheds light on the new direction of Level Up Video and the exciting opportunities it brings for delivering free web development content. Scott also emphasizes the advantages of partnering with Sentry and the increased focus it allows for Syntax. He also provides insights on using a PostCSS plugin to deploy custom media queries and addresses the progress of Safari and its position compared to Internet Explorer (IE) as the browser with the poorest support for certain features. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Scott talks to Chuck and Robbie about custom media queries, browser support for new CSS features, and the acquisition of Level Up Tutorials. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:15] - Introduction to Scott Tolinski.
</li>
  <li>[01:41] - A whiskey review: The Macallan Double Cask 12 Years Old.
</li>
  <li>[06:11] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[14:22] - Scott talks about new features in CSS.
</li>
  <li>[16:29] - Features supported in the top web browsers.
</li>
  <li>[21:30] - How Scott's position at Sentry affects Level Up Tutorials.
</li>
  <li>[25:14] - Tools available that aren’t used frequently.
</li>
  <li>[30:33] - Tools in the works that excite Scott.
</li>
  <li>[32:36] -  Scott talks about his time as an accountant and breakdancer.
</li>
  <li>[41:10] - The most uncool things Scott likes to do.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[13:41] - “People just repeat what the library authors have said over and over again even if they don’t necessarily know what that means.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></p>
<p>
[16:44] - “Between Firefox and Safari, they’re really close into who has the worst support for things.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></p>
<p>
[26:33] - “People don’t realize that, to use the clipboard API, it’s a one-liner of JavaScript that is really easy to remember, but everybody reaches for a library.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://tolin.ski/" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://levelup.video/" target="_blank">Level Up Tutorials</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sentry.io/welcome/" target="_blank">Sentry</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stranahans.com/" target="_blank">Stranahan's - Colorado Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.costco.com/" target="_blank">Costco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbootstrap.com/" target="_blank">Bootstrap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">Kent C. Dodds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/" target="_blank">Safari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://arc.net/" target="_blank">Arc</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://amyskapers.dev/" target="_blank">Amy Kapernick</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.colbyfayock.com/" target="_blank">Colby Fayock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jamesqquick.com/" target="_blank">James Quick</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document_Object_Model" target="_blank">DOM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.guitarworld.com/" target="_blank">Guitar World</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://umich.edu/" target="_blank">University of Michigan </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ghostly.com/" target="_blank">Ghostly International</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ghostly.com/artists/matthew-dear" target="_blank">Matthew Dear</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bravotv.com/" target="_blank">Bravo TV</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Web Browsers, Level Up Tutorials, and Sentry with Scott Tolinski</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/orkp92gbsn3ooxcgpm8uukyp/xp98lw0eo0evkbekebpz3wq3.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2776</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>96</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie are joined by Scott Tolinski, Executive Producer at Sentry, for a recorded chat from the RenderATL conference. The trio delves into lively discussions on various tech topics and shares their candid opinions on ongoing Twitter debates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Scott opens up about his role at Sentry and how the acquisition has impacted his other venture, Level Up Tutorials. He sheds light on the new direction of Level Up Video and the exciting opportunities it brings for delivering free web development content. Scott also emphasizes the advantages of partnering with Sentry and the increased focus it allows for Syntax. He also provides insights on using a PostCSS plugin to deploy custom media queries and addresses the progress of Safari and its position compared to Internet Explorer (IE) as the browser with the poorest support for certain features. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Scott talks to Chuck and Robbie about custom media queries, browser support for new CSS features, and the acquisition of Level Up Tutorials. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:15] - Introduction to Scott Tolinski.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:41] - A whiskey review: The Macallan Double Cask 12 Years Old.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:11] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:22] - Scott talks about new features in CSS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:29] - Features supported in the top web browsers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:30] - How Scott&#39;s position at Sentry affects Level Up Tutorials.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:14] - Tools available that aren’t used frequently.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:33] - Tools in the works that excite Scott.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:36] -  Scott talks about his time as an accountant and breakdancer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:10] - The most uncool things Scott likes to do.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:41] - “People just repeat what the library authors have said over and over again even if they don’t necessarily know what that means.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:44] - “Between Firefox and Safari, they’re really close into who has the worst support for things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:33] - “People don’t realize that, to use the clipboard API, it’s a one-liner of JavaScript that is really easy to remember, but everybody reaches for a library.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tolin.ski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/stolinski/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://levelup.video/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Level Up Tutorials&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sentry.io/welcome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sentry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stranahans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stranahan&#39;s - Colorado Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bootstrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentcdodds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://amyskapers.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amy Kapernick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.colbyfayock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Colby Fayock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesqquick.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;James Quick&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document_Object_Model&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DOM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guitarworld.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guitar World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://umich.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;University of Michigan &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostly.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ghostly International&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ghostly.com/artists/matthew-dear&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matthew Dear&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bravotv.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bravo TV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/orkp92gbsn3ooxcgpm8uukyp/jdi6t4xp497ufjhyri04dtv1/transcoded-01KECKDRCVX51ZR0CSJMFWM6GX-01KECKDRCVHXXT3SRS86ZSHE48_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Next.js, Vercel, and Subscription Models</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie dive into their recent experience of building a new podcast site and all the frameworks in their toolkit including Next.js, Vercel, and surprisingly, React. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Robbie shares the motivation behind building a new podcast site, with the duo wanting more control over analytics, customization, and the overall look and feel, rather than relying on podcast platforms. Robbie used a Tailwind template in Next.js due to its modern features and the ease of leveraging Next.js&#39; capabilities. But the frameworks in Chuck and Robbie’s toolkit are not without flaws. They discuss Vercel&#39;s payment model and pricing plans, including a request for a la carte payment options to escape multiple subscriptions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about their experience using Next.js and Vercel for their podcast website, the potential for optimizing React usage in static sites, and the costly subscription model.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:30] - A whiskey review - Ancient Age Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:17] - Chuck and Robbie praise Next.js and Vercel.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[37:07] - The problem with the subscription model.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[45:02] - Robbie finally moves.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:39] - Chuck and Robbie’s summer plans and gaming.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[10:36] - ”Next.js, a good meta-framework that makes even React tolerable for Robbie.” &#x9;~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:34] - “IT organizations can be very strict about how many additional places you’re able to put code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:52] - “Anything that’s built to make money, is going to be optimized for the people making the money.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Riverside&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zencastr.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zencastr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/ancient-age.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ancient Age: Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rittenhouse Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rauchg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guillermo Rauch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Web Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open-next.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenNext&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://seed.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seed.run&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fly.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fly.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://planetscale.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PlanetScale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.heroku.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Heroku&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PostgreSQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://clickup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ClickUp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hulu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xfinity.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Comcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.verizon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Verizon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cox.com/residential/home.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.centurylink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Century Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PODS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.federalreserve.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Federal Reserve &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Render ATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Super Mario Odyssey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/laptops/elite-352503--1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HP Elitebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amd.com/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AMD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/imac-24/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iMac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1cde0829-ba78-4c0f-a549-44bafcee3a15</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:00:21 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/nu9cwrvpu6818eoimnmwovcx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck and Robbie dive into their recent experience of building a new podcast site and all the frameworks in their toolkit including Next.js, Vercel, and surprisingly, React. </p>
<p>Robbie shares the motivation behind building a new podcast site, with the duo wanting more control over analytics, customization, and the overall look and feel, rather than relying on podcast platforms. Robbie used a Tailwind template in Next.js due to its modern features and the ease of leveraging Next.js' capabilities. But the frameworks in Chuck and Robbie’s toolkit are not without flaws. They discuss Vercel's payment model and pricing plans, including a request for a la carte payment options to escape multiple subscriptions.</p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about their experience using Next.js and Vercel for their podcast website, the potential for optimizing React usage in static sites, and the costly subscription model.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[02:30] - A whiskey review - Ancient Age Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[10:17] - Chuck and Robbie praise Next.js and Vercel.
</li>
 <li>[37:07] - The problem with the subscription model.
</li>
 <li>[45:02] - Robbie finally moves.
</li>
  <li>[51:39] - Chuck and Robbie’s summer plans and gaming.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[10:36] - ”Next.js, a good meta-framework that makes even React tolerable for Robbie.” 	~ <a href="https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[26:34] - “IT organizations can be very strict about how many additional places you’re able to put code.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[28:52] - “Anything that’s built to make money, is going to be optimized for the people making the money.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://riverside.fm/" target="_blank">Riverside</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zencastr.com/" target="_blank">Zencastr</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/ancient-age.html" target="_blank">Ancient Age: Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotrace.com/" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rccolainternational.com/" target="_blank">RC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php" target="_blank">Rittenhouse Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rauchg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Guillermo Rauch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon Web Services</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open-next.js.org/" target="_blank">OpenNext</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://seed.run/" target="_blank">Seed.run</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fly.io/" target="_blank">Fly.io</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://planetscale.com/" target="_blank">PlanetScale</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.heroku.com/" target="_blank">Heroku</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" target="_blank">PostgreSQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">Supabase </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cloudflare.com/" target="_blank">Cloudflare</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://clickup.com/" target="_blank">ClickUp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hulu.com/" target="_blank">Hulu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fox.com/" target="_blank">Fox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xfinity.com/" target="_blank">Comcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbo.com/" target="_blank">HBO</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.verizon.com/" target="_blank">Verizon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cox.com/residential/home.html" target="_blank">Cox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.centurylink.com/" target="_blank">Century Link</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pods.com/" target="_blank">PODS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/" target="_blank">Federal Reserve </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.target.com/" target="_blank">Target</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">Render ATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/" target="_blank">Super Mario Odyssey </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo 4</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Nintendo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/laptops/elite-352503--1" target="_blank">HP Elitebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stadia.google.com/" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amd.com/en.html" target="_blank">AMD</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/imac-24/" target="_blank">iMac</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Next.js, Vercel, and Subscription Models</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nu9cwrvpu6818eoimnmwovcx/a2xltkawne3umng539pzcy0w.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3824</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>95</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Chuck and Robbie dive into their recent experience of building a new podcast site and all the frameworks in their toolkit including Next.js, Vercel, and surprisingly, React. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Robbie shares the motivation behind building a new podcast site, with the duo wanting more control over analytics, customization, and the overall look and feel, rather than relying on podcast platforms. Robbie used a Tailwind template in Next.js due to its modern features and the ease of leveraging Next.js&#39; capabilities. But the frameworks in Chuck and Robbie’s toolkit are not without flaws. They discuss Vercel&#39;s payment model and pricing plans, including a request for a la carte payment options to escape multiple subscriptions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about their experience using Next.js and Vercel for their podcast website, the potential for optimizing React usage in static sites, and the costly subscription model.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:30] - A whiskey review - Ancient Age Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:17] - Chuck and Robbie praise Next.js and Vercel.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[37:07] - The problem with the subscription model.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[45:02] - Robbie finally moves.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:39] - Chuck and Robbie’s summer plans and gaming.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[10:36] - ”Next.js, a good meta-framework that makes even React tolerable for Robbie.” &#x9;~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:34] - “IT organizations can be very strict about how many additional places you’re able to put code.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:52] - “Anything that’s built to make money, is going to be optimized for the people making the money.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://riverside.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Riverside&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zencastr.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zencastr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/ancient-age.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ancient Age: Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rittenhouse Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rauchg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guillermo Rauch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Web Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open-next.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenNext&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://seed.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seed.run&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fly.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fly.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://planetscale.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PlanetScale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.heroku.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Heroku&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.postgresql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PostgreSQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://clickup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ClickUp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hulu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xfinity.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Comcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.verizon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Verizon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cox.com/residential/home.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.centurylink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Century Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PODS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.federalreserve.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Federal Reserve &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Render ATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Super Mario Odyssey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/laptops/elite-352503--1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HP Elitebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amd.com/en.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AMD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/imac-24/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iMac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nu9cwrvpu6818eoimnmwovcx/h5nzg4nx1b29k4m4rmq40ilu/transcoded-01KECKE1XWJ4GXJ6PBM0QXWJSQ-01KECKE1XW5B9D6C8SD9ZDQJEV_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>CodePen, Web Animation, and the Future of AR/VR with Stephen Shaw</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Stephen Shaw is a Front End Developer at CodePen. But his journey into the world of web development traces back to his earliest memory, captured in a nostalgic photo from 1987 of him sitting on his dad&#39;s lap gazing at a computer tower.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;br&gt;Today Stephen contributes to building one of the most widely used code editors for the web. CodePen, as Stephen reveals, is a dynamic social network where people share code samples and demos among a vibrant community. Stephen reminisces about his involvement in working on Ken Wheeler&#39;s cash and using classic web animation tools like GSAP (GreenSock Animation Platform). He&#39;s also keen on exploring what lies ahead. Stephen predicts that Apple&#39;s rumored headset device will harness the power of AR/VR, pushing developers to adapt to the technology.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Stephen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his challenges using typescript at CodePen, the evolution of web animation tools, and the future of VR and AR on the web. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An Introduction to Stephen Shaw.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:53] - A whiskey review: Angels Envy Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:58] - Why Stephen’s team is converting projects to typescript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:21] - Stephen talks about his time maintaining cash.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:11] - How to design web animations.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:44] - Stephen discusses the future of VR and AR on the web.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:07] - Stephen’s career journey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:45] - Chuck, Robbie, and Stephen explore gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:48] - Stephen&#39;s other hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[07:32] - “If you have an existing code that works, don’t add typescript. That&#39;s not going to make your life any easier.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:00] - “I think that we’re very close to a crossroads. Similar to back in 2007 when the iPhone was introduced and suddenly everyone was scrambling to have a mobile website.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 [39:57] - “That’s my idea of a web developer. I want to make information accessible. I want to figure out who the audience is and make them connect with what they need.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shshaw1/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dribbble.com/tags/ui&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dribble UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/davidkpiano&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Khourshid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angels Envy Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.woodfordreserve.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Woodford Reserve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zod.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zod&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rubyonrails.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ruby on Rails&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greensock.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GreenSock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rive.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oculus Quest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codesandbox.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodeSandbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jsfiddle.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSFiddle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.toysrus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Toys “R” Us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kirby.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kirby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Super Mario Odyssey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DigitalOcean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">799138ff-731c-4868-9665-33557499559e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 07:00:50 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ckddi32ld38ubwlfhpr6elvb.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Shaw is a Front End Developer at CodePen. But his journey into the world of web development traces back to his earliest memory, captured in a nostalgic photo from 1987 of him sitting on his dad's lap gazing at a computer tower.</p>
<p> <br>Today Stephen contributes to building one of the most widely used code editors for the web. CodePen, as Stephen reveals, is a dynamic social network where people share code samples and demos among a vibrant community. Stephen reminisces about his involvement in working on Ken Wheeler's cash and using classic web animation tools like GSAP (GreenSock Animation Platform). He's also keen on exploring what lies ahead. Stephen predicts that Apple's rumored headset device will harness the power of AR/VR, pushing developers to adapt to the technology.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Stephen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his challenges using typescript at CodePen, the evolution of web animation tools, and the future of VR and AR on the web. <br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:35] - An Introduction to Stephen Shaw.
</li>
 <li>[01:53] - A whiskey review: Angels Envy Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[09:58] - Why Stephen’s team is converting projects to typescript.
</li>
  <li>[18:21] - Stephen talks about his time maintaining cash.
</li>
  <li>[21:11] - How to design web animations.
</li>
  <li>[24:44] - Stephen discusses the future of VR and AR on the web.
</li>
  <li>[35:07] - Stephen’s career journey.
</li>
  <li>[42:45] - Chuck, Robbie, and Stephen explore gaming.
</li>
  <li>[47:48] - Stephen's other hobbies.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[07:32] - “If you have an existing code that works, don’t add typescript. That's not going to make your life any easier.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en" target="_blank">Stephen Shaw</a></p>
<p>
[25:00] - “I think that we’re very close to a crossroads. Similar to back in 2007 when the iPhone was introduced and suddenly everyone was scrambling to have a mobile website.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en" target="_blank">Stephen Shaw</a></p>
<p>
 [39:57] - “That’s my idea of a web developer. I want to make information accessible. I want to figure out who the audience is and make them connect with what they need.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en" target="_blank">Stephen Shaw</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en" target="_blank">Stephen Shaw Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shshaw1/" target="_blank">Stephen Shaw LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://codepen.io/" target="_blank">CodePen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dribbble.com/tags/ui" target="_blank">Dribble UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/davidkpiano" target="_blank">David Khourshid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/" target="_blank">Angels Envy Straight Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.woodfordreserve.com/" target="_blank"> Woodford Reserve</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">Github</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">Visual Studio Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zod.dev/" target="_blank">Zod</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rubyonrails.org/" target="_blank">Ruby on Rails</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://greensock.com/" target="_blank">GreenSock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank">Figma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rive.app/" target="_blank">Rive</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/" target="_blank">Adobe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/" target="_blank">Oculus Quest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Firefox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://codesandbox.io/" target="_blank">CodeSandbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jsfiddle.net/" target="_blank">JSFiddle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.toysrus.com/" target="_blank">Toys “R” Us</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim" target="_blank">Skyrim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vt.edu/" target="_blank">Virginia Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kirby.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Kirby</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/" target="_blank">Super Mario Odyssey </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lego.com/" target="_blank">Lego</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/" target="_blank">Disney Plus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/" target="_blank">DigitalOcean</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>CodePen, Web Animation, and the Future of AR/VR with Stephen Shaw</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ckddi32ld38ubwlfhpr6elvb/l6kupk1amc0pajnnhd0h7eko.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3846</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>94</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Stephen Shaw is a Front End Developer at CodePen. But his journey into the world of web development traces back to his earliest memory, captured in a nostalgic photo from 1987 of him sitting on his dad&#39;s lap gazing at a computer tower.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;br&gt;Today Stephen contributes to building one of the most widely used code editors for the web. CodePen, as Stephen reveals, is a dynamic social network where people share code samples and demos among a vibrant community. Stephen reminisces about his involvement in working on Ken Wheeler&#39;s cash and using classic web animation tools like GSAP (GreenSock Animation Platform). He&#39;s also keen on exploring what lies ahead. Stephen predicts that Apple&#39;s rumored headset device will harness the power of AR/VR, pushing developers to adapt to the technology.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Stephen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his challenges using typescript at CodePen, the evolution of web animation tools, and the future of VR and AR on the web. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An Introduction to Stephen Shaw.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:53] - A whiskey review: Angels Envy Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:00] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:58] - Why Stephen’s team is converting projects to typescript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:21] - Stephen talks about his time maintaining cash.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:11] - How to design web animations.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:44] - Stephen discusses the future of VR and AR on the web.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:07] - Stephen’s career journey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:45] - Chuck, Robbie, and Stephen explore gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:48] - Stephen&#39;s other hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[07:32] - “If you have an existing code that works, don’t add typescript. That&#39;s not going to make your life any easier.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:00] - “I think that we’re very close to a crossroads. Similar to back in 2007 when the iPhone was introduced and suddenly everyone was scrambling to have a mobile website.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
 [39:57] - “That’s my idea of a web developer. I want to make information accessible. I want to figure out who the audience is and make them connect with what they need.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/shshaw?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/shshaw1/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stephen Shaw LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://codepen.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CodePen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/uuwdlyoe9ojcw92a84bbicuw/thumbnail-uuwdlyoe9ojcw92a84bbicuw.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/w3c9dshmqkhqsgbaue0txwq5/uuwdlyoe9ojcw92a84bbicuw/thumbnail-uuwdlyoe9ojcw92a84bbicuw.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ckddi32ld38ubwlfhpr6elvb/kftr1vslvrwdtibvhhfqisgu/transcoded-01KECKE08GT1JJHXDZM4FKXDNN-01KECKE08GNAW3WEKQ9HDC2ANP_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Building Zed: A Code Editor for Performance and Collaboration with Nathan Sobo</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Nathan Sobo, Founder of Zed Industries, is a founding member of the team that built Atom at GitHub. With nine years of experience under his belt, Nathan made the bold decision to leave GitHub and start a new venture: building Zed, a code editor that captures his vast knowledge and ambitious goals.&lt;br&gt;Nathan opens up about the frustrations he faced with web technology, specifically Electron, which was initially developed to construct Atom but ended up being a resource-hungry burden. Zed, on the other hand, aims to be a more streamlined and efficient code editor by harnessing the power of Rust. Of course, this path was not without its challenges, as Nathan candidly shares the steep learning curve and unique ownership model that came with using Rust. But with determination and a deep understanding of Rust&#39;s capabilities, Nathan and his team created an editor with enough promise to secure funding in just two weeks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Nathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience working with Atom, his motivation for building Zed, and the challenges of analyzing community feedback.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Nathan Sobo.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:51] - A whiskey review: Redbreast Kentucky Oak Edition.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:12] - Why Nathan created Zed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:55] - Future plans for Zed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:01] - Where the name Zed comes from.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:08] - Nathan’s views on crypto.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:39] - Nathan&#39;s time in Italy.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:52] - “The learning curve for Rust was, I describe it as a vertical cliff with snakes nesting in the rocks biting me as I ascended it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:11] - “If I look for 20 miles in any direction, I see shit that would be a really good idea to add to Zed.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[42:31] - “I didn’t lick my finger and figure out which way the wind was blowing to start working on Zed. I did it because I wanted to do it, and I didn’t even know why I wanted to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nahan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">13d9407e-ae3b-45da-8b59-f64eb2acb9e3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ylv1lzaeb5fd9du9zs5gif85.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan Sobo, Founder of Zed Industries, is a founding member of the team that built Atom at GitHub. With nine years of experience under his belt, Nathan made the bold decision to leave GitHub and start a new venture: building Zed, a code editor that captures his vast knowledge and ambitious goals.<br>Nathan opens up about the frustrations he faced with web technology, specifically Electron, which was initially developed to construct Atom but ended up being a resource-hungry burden. Zed, on the other hand, aims to be a more streamlined and efficient code editor by harnessing the power of Rust. Of course, this path was not without its challenges, as Nathan candidly shares the steep learning curve and unique ownership model that came with using Rust. But with determination and a deep understanding of Rust's capabilities, Nathan and his team created an editor with enough promise to secure funding in just two weeks.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Nathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience working with Atom, his motivation for building Zed, and the challenges of analyzing community feedback.<br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:31] - Introduction to Nathan Sobo.
</li>
 <li>[02:51] - A whiskey review: Redbreast Kentucky Oak Edition.
</li>
  <li>[14:12] - Why Nathan created Zed.
</li>
  <li>[27:55] - Future plans for Zed.
</li>
  <li>[43:01] - Where the name Zed comes from.
</li>
  <li>[48:08] - Nathan’s views on crypto.
</li>
  <li>[53:39] - Nathan's time in Italy.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[17:52] - “The learning curve for Rust was, I describe it as a vertical cliff with snakes nesting in the rocks biting me as I ascended it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en" target="_blank">Nathan Sobo</a></p>
<p>
[39:11] - “If I look for 20 miles in any direction, I see shit that would be a really good idea to add to Zed.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en" target="_blank">Nathan Sobo</a></p>
<p>
[42:31] - “I didn’t lick my finger and figure out which way the wind was blowing to start working on Zed. I did it because I wanted to do it, and I didn’t even know why I wanted to do it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en" target="_blank">Nahan Sobo</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en" target="_blank">Nathan Sobo Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-sobo-92b46720" target="_blank">Nathan Sobo LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zed.dev/team" target="_blank">Zed Industries</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com/en-us/the-range/kentucky-oak-edition/" target="_blank">Redbreast Kentucky Oak Edition</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Kentucky Owl</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskyadvocate.com/top20" target="_blank">Whiskey Advocate’s Top 2 Whiskeys of 2022</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fourrosesbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Four Roses Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.teelingwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Teeling Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/" target="_blank">Emacs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chromium.org/chromium-projects/" target="_blank">Chromium</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/" target="_blank">Chrome DevTools</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">Visual Studio Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tuple.app/" target="_blank">Tuple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pop.com/screenhero" target="_blank">Pop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank">Warp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.electronjs.org/" target="_blank">Electron JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://flutter.dev/" target="_blank">Flutter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSON</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webassembly.org/" target="_blank">Web Assembly</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/" target="_blank">Tree-sitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/" target="_blank">Hacker News</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.costco.com/" target="_blank">Costco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature.html" target="_blank">Kirkland</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/" target="_blank">Pulp Fiction</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/research/gpt-4" target="_blank">GPT-4</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">RenderATL 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://firstwefeast.com/tag/hot-ones" target="_blank">Hot Ones</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.airbnb.com/" target="_blank">Airbnb</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.duolingo.com/" target="_blank">Duolingo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.campari.com/" target="_blank">Campari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.grappanonino.it/en/amaro-and-liqueurs/amaro-nonino-quintessentia/" target="_blank">Amaro Nonino</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fernetbranca.com/en" target="_blank">Fernet-Branca</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.aperol.com/" target="_blank">Aperol </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.budlight.com/" target="_blank">Bud Light</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.avignonesi.it/" target="_blank">Avignonesi</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Building Zed: A Code Editor for Performance and Collaboration with Nathan Sobo</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ylv1lzaeb5fd9du9zs5gif85/plqz5210ktanctgoj0ms0v9x.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3959</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>93</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Nathan Sobo, Founder of Zed Industries, is a founding member of the team that built Atom at GitHub. With nine years of experience under his belt, Nathan made the bold decision to leave GitHub and start a new venture: building Zed, a code editor that captures his vast knowledge and ambitious goals.&lt;br&gt;Nathan opens up about the frustrations he faced with web technology, specifically Electron, which was initially developed to construct Atom but ended up being a resource-hungry burden. Zed, on the other hand, aims to be a more streamlined and efficient code editor by harnessing the power of Rust. Of course, this path was not without its challenges, as Nathan candidly shares the steep learning curve and unique ownership model that came with using Rust. But with determination and a deep understanding of Rust&#39;s capabilities, Nathan and his team created an editor with enough promise to secure funding in just two weeks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Nathan talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience working with Atom, his motivation for building Zed, and the challenges of analyzing community feedback.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Nathan Sobo.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:51] - A whiskey review: Redbreast Kentucky Oak Edition.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:12] - Why Nathan created Zed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:55] - Future plans for Zed.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:01] - Where the name Zed comes from.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:08] - Nathan’s views on crypto.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:39] - Nathan&#39;s time in Italy.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:52] - “The learning curve for Rust was, I describe it as a vertical cliff with snakes nesting in the rocks biting me as I ascended it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:11] - “If I look for 20 miles in any direction, I see shit that would be a really good idea to add to Zed.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[42:31] - “I didn’t lick my finger and figure out which way the wind was blowing to start working on Zed. I did it because I wanted to do it, and I didn’t even know why I wanted to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nahan Sobo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/nathansobo?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-sobo-92b46720&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nathan Sobo LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/team&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zed Industries&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redbreastwhiskey.com/en-us/the-range/kentucky-oak-edition/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redbreast Kentucky Oak Edition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kentuckyowlbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kentucky Owl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskyadvocate.com/top20&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Advocate’s Top 2 Whiskeys of 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fourrosesbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Four Roses Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.teelingwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Teeling Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emacs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chromium.org/chromium-projects/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chromium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chrome DevTools&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tuple.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tuple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pop.com/screenhero&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.electronjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Electron JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flutter.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flutter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.json.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webassembly.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Web Assembly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tree-sitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://news.ycombinator.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hacker News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kirkland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pulp Fiction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/research/gpt-4&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GPT-4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RenderATL 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firstwefeast.com/tag/hot-ones&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hot Ones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.airbnb.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Airbnb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.duolingo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Duolingo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.campari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Campari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.grappanonino.it/en/amaro-and-liqueurs/amaro-nonino-quintessentia/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amaro Nonino&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fernetbranca.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fernet-Branca&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.aperol.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Aperol &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.budlight.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bud Light&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.avignonesi.it/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Avignonesi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ylv1lzaeb5fd9du9zs5gif85/dgit0wklajsvox5mmhallpuq/transcoded-01KECKE277W8K74KKTJWKG1T5P-01KECKE277NW3M0VW38WPH6WD3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Jarred Sumner, Founder and CEO of Oven, is bringing speed to the world of Javascript with his project, Bun. Bun is a next-generation Javascript runtime bundler, transpiler, and NPM package manager that promises lightning-fast speeds. It&#39;s already making waves in the industry. The company secured seven million dollars in funding to build hosting for Bun in August 2022.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the secrets to Bun&#39;s success is its use of the underrated programming language Zig. Jarred explains that Zig allowed him to be incredibly productive and save time with its memory allocator. Another essential feature of Bun is its pre-allocation of almost everything, avoiding the need for dynamically pushing arrays, which can significantly slow down the process. The new version of Bun also has a different runtime than other frameworks like Node and Deno, making it even faster.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Jarred talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on trending Twitter topics, how his company uses benchmarks to optimize Bun&#39;s performance, and what he believes has happened to the creativity of the web.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - Introduction to Jarred Sumner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:17] - A whiskey review: Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:42] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:15] - Jarred’s new bundler.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:36] - Jarred’s reason for using Zig.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:52] - Upcoming hosting product Jarred’s team is working on.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:09] - What happened to the creativity of the web?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:58] - Jarred’s draft tweets.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:12] - Jarred’s hobbies besides coding.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:51] - Other developers and projects Jarred finds interesting.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:06] - “Zig is really productive. I tried to use Rust, and I just had a lot of trouble being productive.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:55] - “For CPUs, the thing that’s slow usually is not actually the  processing, it’s memory.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:52] - “I think that we can make the internet and Javascript applications faster, and we can make it easier to deploy, and we can make it better. It going to be a lot of work, but it&#39;s going to be really fun.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Jarred-Sumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarred-sumner-a8772425&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/codeblog/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Why isn’t the internet more fun and weird?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://oven.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoppeerless.com/product/peerless-small-batch-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbem.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BEM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.intercom.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Intercom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chromium.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chromium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/console/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Management Console&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myspace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Myspace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cnet.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CNET&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roblox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roblox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stripe.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stripe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.marvel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marvel &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147746/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Batman Beyond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Back to the Future&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.boringcompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Boring Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elysiajs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elysia JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAssembly&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wasm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mozilla Firefox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e2ab0577-6a6a-4877-b85b-bdce5847eefb</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 13:40:26 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/y8un7lw07cupht8hmclii0px.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarred Sumner, Founder and CEO of Oven, is bringing speed to the world of Javascript with his project, Bun. Bun is a next-generation Javascript runtime bundler, transpiler, and NPM package manager that promises lightning-fast speeds. It's already making waves in the industry. The company secured seven million dollars in funding to build hosting for Bun in August 2022.</p>
<p><br>One of the secrets to Bun's success is its use of the underrated programming language Zig. Jarred explains that Zig allowed him to be incredibly productive and save time with its memory allocator. Another essential feature of Bun is its pre-allocation of almost everything, avoiding the need for dynamically pushing arrays, which can significantly slow down the process. The new version of Bun also has a different runtime than other frameworks like Node and Deno, making it even faster.</p>
<p><br>In this episode, Jarred talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on trending Twitter topics, how his company uses benchmarks to optimize Bun's performance, and what he believes has happened to the creativity of the web.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:30] - Introduction to Jarred Sumner.
</li>
 <li>[01:17] - A whiskey review: Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon
</li>
  <li>[04:42] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[11:15] - Jarred’s new bundler.
</li>
  <li>[15:36] - Jarred’s reason for using Zig.
</li>
  <li>[18:52] - Upcoming hosting product Jarred’s team is working on.
</li>
  <li>[23:09] - What happened to the creativity of the web?
</li>
  <li>[27:58] - Jarred’s draft tweets.
</li>
  <li>[30:12] - Jarred’s hobbies besides coding.
</li>
  <li>[38:51] - Other developers and projects Jarred finds interesting.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[16:06] - “Zig is really productive. I tried to use Rust, and I just had a lot of trouble being productive.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jarredsumner" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner</a></p>
<p>
[17:55] - “For CPUs, the thing that’s slow usually is not actually the  processing, it’s memory.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jarredsumner" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner</a></p>
<p>
[22:52] - “I think that we can make the internet and Javascript applications faster, and we can make it easier to deploy, and we can make it better. It going to be a lot of work, but it's going to be really fun.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jarredsumner" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://jarredsumner.com/" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/jarredsumner" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Jarred-Sumner" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner Github</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarred-sumner-a8772425" target="_blank">Jarred Sumner LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jarredsumner.com/codeblog/" target="_blank">Why isn’t the internet more fun and weird?</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">Bun</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://oven.sh/" target="_blank">Oven</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shoppeerless.com/product/peerless-small-batch-bourbon/" target="_blank">Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbem.com/" target="_blank">BEM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.intercom.com/" target="_blank">Intercom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://deno.com/" target="_blank">Deno</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ziglang.org/" target="_blank">Zig</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chromium.org/" target="_blank">Chromium</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/console/" target="_blank">Amazon Management Console</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://myspace.com/" target="_blank">Myspace</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cnet.com/" target="_blank">CNET</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" target="_blank">Reddit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.roblox.com/" target="_blank">Roblox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stripe.com/" target="_blank">Stripe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/" target="_blank">Disney Plus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/" target="_blank">Marvel </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dc.com/" target="_blank">DC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147746/" target="_blank">Batman Beyond</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.boringcompany.com/" target="_blank">The Boring Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elysiajs.com/" target="_blank">Elysia JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAssembly" target="_blank">Wasm</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">Shepherd JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Mozilla Firefox</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/y8un7lw07cupht8hmclii0px/zx7c8zycm9yfcuxmj3wwk0ni.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3097</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>92</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jarred Sumner, Founder and CEO of Oven, is bringing speed to the world of Javascript with his project, Bun. Bun is a next-generation Javascript runtime bundler, transpiler, and NPM package manager that promises lightning-fast speeds. It&#39;s already making waves in the industry. The company secured seven million dollars in funding to build hosting for Bun in August 2022.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the secrets to Bun&#39;s success is its use of the underrated programming language Zig. Jarred explains that Zig allowed him to be incredibly productive and save time with its memory allocator. Another essential feature of Bun is its pre-allocation of almost everything, avoiding the need for dynamically pushing arrays, which can significantly slow down the process. The new version of Bun also has a different runtime than other frameworks like Node and Deno, making it even faster.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Jarred talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on trending Twitter topics, how his company uses benchmarks to optimize Bun&#39;s performance, and what he believes has happened to the creativity of the web.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - Introduction to Jarred Sumner.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:17] - A whiskey review: Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:42] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:15] - Jarred’s new bundler.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:36] - Jarred’s reason for using Zig.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:52] - Upcoming hosting product Jarred’s team is working on.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:09] - What happened to the creativity of the web?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:58] - Jarred’s draft tweets.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:12] - Jarred’s hobbies besides coding.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:51] - Other developers and projects Jarred finds interesting.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:06] - “Zig is really productive. I tried to use Rust, and I just had a lot of trouble being productive.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:55] - “For CPUs, the thing that’s slow usually is not actually the  processing, it’s memory.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:52] - “I think that we can make the internet and Javascript applications faster, and we can make it easier to deploy, and we can make it better. It going to be a lot of work, but it&#39;s going to be really fun.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jarredsumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Jarred-Sumner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarred-sumner-a8772425&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jarred Sumner LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jarredsumner.com/codeblog/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Why isn’t the internet more fun and weird?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://oven.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Oven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoppeerless.com/product/peerless-small-batch-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peerless Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbem.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BEM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ziglang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/console/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Management Console&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/y8un7lw07cupht8hmclii0px/dcrdw046sbon5gwde6aiv7fw/transcoded-01KECKDY4DHZ6SJC960YNVNT3P-01KECKDY4DR4XVST3N8ZR2VHZB_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Native Inputs, Blockchain, and Bluesky</title><description>&lt;p&gt;What happened to the blockchain? A few years ago, it seemed like the whole world had high hopes for the technology. Today, Chuck and Robbie wonder if it will ever make a comeback. &lt;br&gt;In addition to following up on last week’s episode about input types, Chuck and Robbie remember the days when software piracy was rampant and how it affected the industry. This leads to a discussion about the blockchain and how everyone seemed to jump on the bandwagon a few years ago. But now, the technology seems to have faded into the background. However, Chuck and Robbie point out that the blockchain still has practical use cases, especially for things that require trust and immutability like government documents or a history of maintenance on a property.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the use of native inputs and how they can save time and effort, what happened to the blockchain and whether it will make a comeback, and the ebbs and flows of social media apps. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey review: Buffalo Trace 90 Proof.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:50] - Chuck and Robbie discuss native inputs that they know.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:52] - New features launched in Supabase.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:36] - Subscription models.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:33] - What happened to the blockchain?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:42] - Bluesky invites on Twitter and the current state of social media.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:03] - Chuck and Robbie talk about gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:01] - The crazy offer Robbie got for his house.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:13] - What Chuck and Robbie have been watching.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:26] - “Buffalo Trace, really good, readily available, inexpensive that is a top choice.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:26] - “Oftentimes, they ask what makes a senior engineer, and I think the joy in deleting code is one of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:21] - “When TikTok came out, I was like TikTok is dumb. No one is ever going to use this. It’s just for little kids to post dance videos and do stupid things, and now it&#39;s the biggest thing ever.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace 90 Proof&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joinmastodon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://caribbean.craigslist.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Craigslist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.8bitdo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;8BitDo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwarseclipse.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars Eclipse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Titans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peloton &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/succession&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Succession &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80189685&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jonasbrothers.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jonas Brothers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7dc05ce2-f0ca-11ed-b812-5f7a3619046a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zht9197syq18s0ug99qvtbad.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the blockchain? A few years ago, it seemed like the whole world had high hopes for the technology. Today, Chuck and Robbie wonder if it will ever make a comeback. <br>In addition to following up on last week’s episode about input types, Chuck and Robbie remember the days when software piracy was rampant and how it affected the industry. This leads to a discussion about the blockchain and how everyone seemed to jump on the bandwagon a few years ago. But now, the technology seems to have faded into the background. However, Chuck and Robbie point out that the blockchain still has practical use cases, especially for things that require trust and immutability like government documents or a history of maintenance on a property.<br>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the use of native inputs and how they can save time and effort, what happened to the blockchain and whether it will make a comeback, and the ebbs and flows of social media apps. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[02:21] - A whiskey review: Buffalo Trace 90 Proof.
</li>
 <li>[09:50] - Chuck and Robbie discuss native inputs that they know.
</li>
  <li>[17:52] - New features launched in Supabase.
</li>
  <li>[20:36] - Subscription models.
</li>
  <li>[23:33] - What happened to the blockchain?
</li>
  <li>[27:42] - Bluesky invites on Twitter and the current state of social media.
</li>
  <li>[40:03] - Chuck and Robbie talk about gaming.
</li>
  <li>[48:01] - The crazy offer Robbie got for his house.
</li>
  <li>[50:13] - What Chuck and Robbie have been watching.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[09:26] - “Buffalo Trace, really good, readily available, inexpensive that is a top choice.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[12:26] - “Oftentimes, they ask what makes a senior engineer, and I think the joy in deleting code is one of them.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[30:21] - “When TikTok came out, I was like TikTok is dumb. No one is ever going to use this. It’s just for little kids to post dance videos and do stupid things, and now it's the biggest thing ever.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotrace.com/index.html" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace 90 Proof</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-rye-whiskey.html" target="_blank">Sazerac Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.toddsnyder.com/" target="_blank">Todd Snyder</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/" target="_blank">Uniqlo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coca-colacompany.com/" target="_blank">Coca Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rccolainternational.com/" target="_blank">RC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepsi.com/" target="_blank">PepsiRC Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://babeljs.io/" target="_blank">Babel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mms.com/" target="_blank">M&amp;M’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbootstrap.com/" target="_blank">Bootstrap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bigotires.com/" target="_blank">Big O Tires</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">Supabase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://firebase.google.com/" target="_blank">Firebase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Nicki Minaj</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.blockchain.com/" target="_blank">Blockchain</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://blueskyweb.xyz/" target="_blank">Bluesky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://joinmastodon.org/" target="_blank">Mastodon</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://TikTok" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vine.co/" target="_blank">Vine</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://caribbean.craigslist.org/" target="_blank">Craigslist</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://poshmark.com/" target="_blank">Poshmark</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://venmo.com/" target="_blank">Venmo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.paypal.com/" target="_blank">PayPal</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/" target="_blank">Super Mario Odyssey </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/" target="_blank">Hogwarts Legacy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/" target="_blank">Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1+2</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.8bitdo.com/" target="_blank">8BitDo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/" target="_blank">EA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starwarseclipse.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars Eclipse</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us" target="_blank">Lego</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank">Starlink</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/" target="_blank">Titans</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/" target="_blank">Mandalorian</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" target="_blank">Peloton </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbo.com/succession" target="_blank">Succession </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80189685" target="_blank">The Witcher</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jonasbrothers.com/" target="_blank">The Jonas Brothers</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Native Inputs, Blockchain, and Bluesky</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zht9197syq18s0ug99qvtbad/s3w7oeh7qhlob7eqkuc69m82.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3411</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>91</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What happened to the blockchain? A few years ago, it seemed like the whole world had high hopes for the technology. Today, Chuck and Robbie wonder if it will ever make a comeback. &lt;br&gt;In addition to following up on last week’s episode about input types, Chuck and Robbie remember the days when software piracy was rampant and how it affected the industry. This leads to a discussion about the blockchain and how everyone seemed to jump on the bandwagon a few years ago. But now, the technology seems to have faded into the background. However, Chuck and Robbie point out that the blockchain still has practical use cases, especially for things that require trust and immutability like government documents or a history of maintenance on a property.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the use of native inputs and how they can save time and effort, what happened to the blockchain and whether it will make a comeback, and the ebbs and flows of social media apps. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey review: Buffalo Trace 90 Proof.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:50] - Chuck and Robbie discuss native inputs that they know.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:52] - New features launched in Supabase.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:36] - Subscription models.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:33] - What happened to the blockchain?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:42] - Bluesky invites on Twitter and the current state of social media.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:03] - Chuck and Robbie talk about gaming.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:01] - The crazy offer Robbie got for his house.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:13] - What Chuck and Robbie have been watching.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:26] - “Buffalo Trace, really good, readily available, inexpensive that is a top choice.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:26] - “Oftentimes, they ask what makes a senior engineer, and I think the joy in deleting code is one of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/charleswthe3rd?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:21] - “When TikTok came out, I was like TikTok is dumb. No one is ever going to use this. It’s just for little kids to post dance videos and do stupid things, and now it&#39;s the biggest thing ever.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace 90 Proof&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-rye-whiskey.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sazerac Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.toddsnyder.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Todd Snyder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Uniqlo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-colacompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rccolainternational.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PepsiRC Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.makersmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Maker’s Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://babeljs.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Babel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mms.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;M&amp;amp;M’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bootstrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bigotires.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Big O Tires&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nicki Minaj&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.blockchain.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Blockchain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blueskyweb.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joinmastodon.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mastodon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://TikTok&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vine.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://caribbean.craigslist.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Craigslist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://poshmark.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Poshmark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://venmo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Venmo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PayPal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Super Mario Odyssey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hogwarts Legacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 1+2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.8bitdo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;8BitDo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwarseclipse.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars Eclipse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Titans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.onepeloton.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peloton &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/succession&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Succession &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80189685&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jonasbrothers.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jonas Brothers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zht9197syq18s0ug99qvtbad/oe67ultp2kh5kpx4emibbukz/transcoded-01KECKDYCKDS0QDS4BR8XB5PD9-01KECKDYCK40SVX0PCED05A7CX_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>HTML, Shadowbanning, and Open Source Buyouts</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Engineers often have the urge to create something bigger and better than what already exists, driven by their competitive nature. But this desire for innovation can sometimes lead to overengineering, resulting in a loss of valuable time and resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie shares his recent frustrating experience with the custom date and time pickers in an app that left him feeling flustered and confused. Chuck believes that a developer got carried away with trying to conquer a personal challenge or solve a unique user requirement, which is a common mistake. The truth is, there&#39;s no shame in using the existing vanilla libraries that are battle-tested. Chuck and Robbie recommend starting with the base functionality provided by the browser and progressively enhancing it, rather than building entirely custom components from scratch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the benefits and drawbacks of building custom web components versus using native browser functionalities, the complexities of the Twitter algorithm, and open-source projects that are backed by corporate funders. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - A whiskey review: Sazerac Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:34] - Building custom vs. browser native HTML.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:01] - Chuck and Robbie’s challenges with Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:15] - What&#39;s wrong with cryptocurrency?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:36] - Chuck sold his Rivian while Robbie’s house is still on the market.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:48] - Syntax Podcast partners with Sentry.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:41] - “Ultimately, you’re always looking at what a browser provides for free and why that isn’t good enough.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:08] - “Safari is the new Internet Explorer.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:21] - “The nice thing with Ethereum is it is really backing most coins because people just build on top of Ethereum.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-rye-whiskey.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sazerac Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuoriclothing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vuori&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000867/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Bateman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rittenhouse Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://web.dev/progressive-web-apps/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Progressive Web App&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chromium.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chromium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brave.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brave Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bootstrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://seed.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seed.run&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shibatoken.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shiba Inu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitcoin.org/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bitcoin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dogecoin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dogecoin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ethereum.org/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ethereum &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.benzinga.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Benzinga&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carsandbids.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cars &amp;amp; Bids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsqjHFMB_JYTaEnf_vmTNqg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Doug DeMuro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShopTalk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chriscoyier.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Coyier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Render ATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8ed89a50-eda8-11ed-a9f0-833ef60616b3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/luwkjrm76nkbbz01s2r9w78p.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineers often have the urge to create something bigger and better than what already exists, driven by their competitive nature. But this desire for innovation can sometimes lead to overengineering, resulting in a loss of valuable time and resources.</p>
<p>
Robbie shares his recent frustrating experience with the custom date and time pickers in an app that left him feeling flustered and confused. Chuck believes that a developer got carried away with trying to conquer a personal challenge or solve a unique user requirement, which is a common mistake. The truth is, there's no shame in using the existing vanilla libraries that are battle-tested. Chuck and Robbie recommend starting with the base functionality provided by the browser and progressively enhancing it, rather than building entirely custom components from scratch.<br><br>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the benefits and drawbacks of building custom web components versus using native browser functionalities, the complexities of the Twitter algorithm, and open-source projects that are backed by corporate funders. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:33] - A whiskey review: Sazerac Rye.
</li>
 <li>[06:34] - Building custom vs. browser native HTML.
</li>
  <li>[34:01] - Chuck and Robbie’s challenges with Twitter.
</li>
  <li>[37:15] - What's wrong with cryptocurrency?
</li>
  <li>[44:36] - Chuck sold his Rivian while Robbie’s house is still on the market.
</li>
  <li>[52:48] - Syntax Podcast partners with Sentry.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[09:41] - “Ultimately, you’re always looking at what a browser provides for free and why that isn’t good enough.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[13:08] - “Safari is the new Internet Explorer.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[41:21] - “The nice thing with Ethereum is it is really backing most coins because people just build on top of Ethereum.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-rye-whiskey.html" target="_blank">Sazerac Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuoriclothing.com/" target="_blank">Vuori</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000867/" target="_blank">Jason Bateman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php" target="_blank">Rittenhouse Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/" target="_blank">Safari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx" target="_blank">Internet Explorer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://web.dev/progressive-web-apps/" target="_blank">Progressive Web App</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chromium.org/" target="_blank">Chromium</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://arc.net/" target="_blank">Arc Browser</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://brave.com/" target="_blank">Brave Browser</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbootstrap.com/" target="_blank">Bootstrap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mui.com/" target="_blank">Material UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://seed.run/" target="_blank">Seed.run</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shibatoken.com/" target="_blank">Shiba Inu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bitcoin.org/en/" target="_blank">Bitcoin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dogecoin.com/" target="_blank">Dogecoin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ethereum.org/en/" target="_blank">Ethereum </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.benzinga.com/" target="_blank">Benzinga</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://carsandbids.com/" target="_blank">Cars &amp; Bids</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsqjHFMB_JYTaEnf_vmTNqg" target="_blank">Doug DeMuro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">ShopTalk</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chriscoyier.net/" target="_blank">Chris Coyier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">Render ATL</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>HTML, Shadowbanning, and Open Source Buyouts</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/luwkjrm76nkbbz01s2r9w78p/rm9t0cjhbjeo5gprpom2gt36.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3797</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>90</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Engineers often have the urge to create something bigger and better than what already exists, driven by their competitive nature. But this desire for innovation can sometimes lead to overengineering, resulting in a loss of valuable time and resources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie shares his recent frustrating experience with the custom date and time pickers in an app that left him feeling flustered and confused. Chuck believes that a developer got carried away with trying to conquer a personal challenge or solve a unique user requirement, which is a common mistake. The truth is, there&#39;s no shame in using the existing vanilla libraries that are battle-tested. Chuck and Robbie recommend starting with the base functionality provided by the browser and progressively enhancing it, rather than building entirely custom components from scratch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the benefits and drawbacks of building custom web components versus using native browser functionalities, the complexities of the Twitter algorithm, and open-source projects that are backed by corporate funders. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - A whiskey review: Sazerac Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:34] - Building custom vs. browser native HTML.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:01] - Chuck and Robbie’s challenges with Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:15] - What&#39;s wrong with cryptocurrency?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:36] - Chuck sold his Rivian while Robbie’s house is still on the market.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:48] - Syntax Podcast partners with Sentry.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[09:41] - “Ultimately, you’re always looking at what a browser provides for free and why that isn’t good enough.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:08] - “Safari is the new Internet Explorer.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:21] - “The nice thing with Ethereum is it is really backing most coins because people just build on top of Ethereum.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sazerac.com/our-brands/sazerac-rye-whiskey.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sazerac Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuoriclothing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vuori&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000867/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Bateman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rittenhouse Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://web.dev/progressive-web-apps/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Progressive Web App&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chromium.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chromium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://arc.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brave.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brave Browser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbootstrap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bootstrap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/luwkjrm76nkbbz01s2r9w78p/z6eh9t0sndzuuro9s77bzyf6/transcoded-01KECKE19KSH1B47QMNYPRKP2V-01KECKE19KHS7RNZCW0NYAN3H2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Tanner Linsley, Co-Founder and VP of UI/UX at Nozzle is known for creating some of the most popular open-source libraries in the tech space. These libraries keep the wheels turning by making things easier for him and many other developers in their day-to-day jobs.&lt;br&gt;Tanner has built libraries, such as React Query and React Table, that are now part of TanStack, his branded collection of tools. TanStack&#39;s other products include a router currently in beta, TanStack Query Table, TanStack Virtual, and TanStack Ranger. Tanner explains that he started building these tools while working on his SEO analytical platform, Nozzle, where they were created to solve the challenges he faced while developing the platform. It hasn’t been easy managing the expectations of users and maintaining open-source projects without major funding, but Tanner has made an impact in the community nonetheless. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Tanner talks to Robbie and Chuck about his take on trending tech topics, his popular open-source libraries in TanStack, and his future framework plans.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:24] - Introduction to Tanner Linsley.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - A whiskey review: MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:55] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:14] - What is TanStack?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:17] - What is a framework?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:08] - Tanner’s non-tech hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:47] - “The ultimate UI that existed before so many other UI’s is Excel.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:22] - “Anytime you do anything outside of React, with state management, it’s all going to come back to use-sync-external-store.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:55] - “I have really big eyes for Solid right now. Even though almost everything I do is still in React. I stare at the greener grass every day, every day, for Solid.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannerlinsley/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TanStack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkmonday.co/products/zero-alcohol-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nozzle.io/about&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nozzle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">37661a3e-e850-11ed-bad1-0febb25d06ef</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/dmyr3j5xwmu86qilhvu7w3zk.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanner Linsley, Co-Founder and VP of UI/UX at Nozzle is known for creating some of the most popular open-source libraries in the tech space. These libraries keep the wheels turning by making things easier for him and many other developers in their day-to-day jobs.<br>Tanner has built libraries, such as React Query and React Table, that are now part of TanStack, his branded collection of tools. TanStack's other products include a router currently in beta, TanStack Query Table, TanStack Virtual, and TanStack Ranger. Tanner explains that he started building these tools while working on his SEO analytical platform, Nozzle, where they were created to solve the challenges he faced while developing the platform. It hasn’t been easy managing the expectations of users and maintaining open-source projects without major funding, but Tanner has made an impact in the community nonetheless. </p>
<p><br>In this episode, Tanner talks to Robbie and Chuck about his take on trending tech topics, his popular open-source libraries in TanStack, and his future framework plans.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:24] - Introduction to Tanner Linsley.
</li>
  <li>[01:33] - A whiskey review: MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[11:55] - Tech hot takes.
</li>
  <li>[29:14] - What is TanStack?
</li>
  <li>[35:17] - What is a framework?
</li>
  <li>[45:08] - Tanner’s non-tech hobbies.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:47] - “The ultimate UI that existed before so many other UI’s is Excel.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley</a></p>
<p>
[24:22] - “Anytime you do anything outside of React, with state management, it’s all going to come back to use-sync-external-store.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley</a></p>
<p>
[34:55] - “I have really big eyes for Solid right now. Even though almost everything I do is still in React. I stare at the greener grass every day, every day, for Solid.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannerlinsley/" target="_blank">Tanner Linsley LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tanstack.com/" target="_blank">TanStack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://drinkmonday.co/products/zero-alcohol-whiskey" target="_blank">MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://drinkmonday.co/products/whiskey-sour-kit" target="_blank">MONDAY Whiskey Sour Kit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live" target="_blank">Saturday Night Live</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1869101/" target="_blank">Ana de Armas</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dietcoke.com/products/diet-coke" target="_blank">Diet Coca Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dev.to/ryansolid" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://preactjs.com/" target="_blank">Preact JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nozzle.io/about" target="_blank">Nozzle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tkdodo.eu/blog/" target="_blank">Dominik Dorfmeister</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud.html" target="_blank">Adobe Creative Cloud</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reactathon.com/" target="_blank">Reactathon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactsummit.com/" target="_blank">React Summit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.reactrally.com/" target="_blank">React Rally</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">Kent C. Dodds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/tylermcginnis?lang=en" target="_blank">Tyler McGinnis</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ryanflorence.dev/" target="_blank">Ryan Florence</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Hot Takes, TanStack, and Open Source with Tanner Linsley</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/dmyr3j5xwmu86qilhvu7w3zk/e7r7eoq4xwljakz9s1tcuwcv.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3338</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>89</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Tanner Linsley, Co-Founder and VP of UI/UX at Nozzle is known for creating some of the most popular open-source libraries in the tech space. These libraries keep the wheels turning by making things easier for him and many other developers in their day-to-day jobs.&lt;br&gt;Tanner has built libraries, such as React Query and React Table, that are now part of TanStack, his branded collection of tools. TanStack&#39;s other products include a router currently in beta, TanStack Query Table, TanStack Virtual, and TanStack Ranger. Tanner explains that he started building these tools while working on his SEO analytical platform, Nozzle, where they were created to solve the challenges he faced while developing the platform. It hasn’t been easy managing the expectations of users and maintaining open-source projects without major funding, but Tanner has made an impact in the community nonetheless. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Tanner talks to Robbie and Chuck about his take on trending tech topics, his popular open-source libraries in TanStack, and his future framework plans.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:24] - Introduction to Tanner Linsley.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - A whiskey review: MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:55] - Tech hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:14] - What is TanStack?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:17] - What is a framework?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:08] - Tanner’s non-tech hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:47] - “The ultimate UI that existed before so many other UI’s is Excel.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:22] - “Anytime you do anything outside of React, with state management, it’s all going to come back to use-sync-external-store.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[34:55] - “I have really big eyes for Solid right now. Even though almost everything I do is still in React. I stare at the greener grass every day, every day, for Solid.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/tannerlinsley?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannerlinsley/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tanner Linsley LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tanstack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TanStack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkmonday.co/products/zero-alcohol-whiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MONDAY Zero Alcohol Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drinkmonday.co/products/whiskey-sour-kit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MONDAY Whiskey Sour Kit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/dmyr3j5xwmu86qilhvu7w3zk/y06h3l56u28eug7idtwtcsdr/transcoded-01KECKDYTCK0CBMPEVMXTFBG3P-01KECKDYTC5PCEDQN8JHX3KFZN_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Confluent, Kafka, and Developer Advocacy with Lucia Cerchie</title><description>&lt;p&gt;When you think about the career journey of a software developer, teaching elementary school is not typically the first thing that comes to mind. But for Lucia Cerchie, Developer Advocate at Confluent, her elementary school teaching experience gave her a huge advantage in her work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Lucia discusses her work with Kafka, a distributed event streaming platform, and how she creates content to introduce developers to Kafka more easily, especially for beginners. She explains Kafka’s scalability and how it can handle large amounts of data in real-time, making it a great choice for processing high volumes of data. But Kafka isn’t the answer for everyone. Lucia emphasizes the importance of understanding the &#34;why&#34; behind using it and knowing when to leverage it based on the problem at hand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lucia talks to Robbie and Chuck about her journey from being an elementary school teacher to her career in developer advocacy, her work at Confluent with Kafka, and how she creates content to make complex technologies more accessible. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - Introduction to Lucia Cerchie.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:46] - A whiskey review: Barrel Bourbon Batch 032.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:45] - Hot takes from Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:21] - Lucia’s path to becoming a developer advocate.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:58] - Lucia explains Kafka.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:35] - Lucia explains Confluent and its business model.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:15] - Programming languages Lucia has used in her tutorials.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:17] - Chuck, Robbie, and Lucia talk about exercise.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:45] - Lucia talks about her hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:01] - “The motivation actually comes from back when I was teaching. Which is, I want to help other people learn and make teaching accessible.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:03] - “Kafka&#39;s use cases are not just event-driven web apps. It’s things like main frame conversions, data pipelines.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:08] - “I think I would recommend Python to absolute beginners to coding just because of the human readability of the language.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciacerchie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.confluent.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confluent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.confluent.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confluent Developer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iRM1Ghr1k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;What is Apache Kafka®? (A Confluent Lightboard by Tim Berglund) + ksqlDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apache Kafka Documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/confluentinc/demo-scene/tree/master/confluent-ais-demo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AIS demo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">23e95cd4-dd2c-11ed-a636-6f1a13f74880</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/bwq1z0eisazued9rshsf858x.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you think about the career journey of a software developer, teaching elementary school is not typically the first thing that comes to mind. But for Lucia Cerchie, Developer Advocate at Confluent, her elementary school teaching experience gave her a huge advantage in her work.</p>
<p><br>In this episode, Lucia discusses her work with Kafka, a distributed event streaming platform, and how she creates content to introduce developers to Kafka more easily, especially for beginners. She explains Kafka’s scalability and how it can handle large amounts of data in real-time, making it a great choice for processing high volumes of data. But Kafka isn’t the answer for everyone. Lucia emphasizes the importance of understanding the "why" behind using it and knowing when to leverage it based on the problem at hand.</p>
<p><br>Lucia talks to Robbie and Chuck about her journey from being an elementary school teacher to her career in developer advocacy, her work at Confluent with Kafka, and how she creates content to make complex technologies more accessible. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:27] - Introduction to Lucia Cerchie.
</li>
 <li>[01:46] - A whiskey review: Barrel Bourbon Batch 032.
</li>
  <li>[06:45] - Hot takes from Twitter.
</li>
  <li>[14:21] - Lucia’s path to becoming a developer advocate.
</li>
  <li>[19:58] - Lucia explains Kafka.
</li>
  <li>[26:35] - Lucia explains Confluent and its business model.
</li>
  <li>[39:15] - Programming languages Lucia has used in her tutorials.
</li>
  <li>[44:17] - Chuck, Robbie, and Lucia talk about exercise.
</li>
  <li>[47:45] - Lucia talks about her hobbies.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[16:01] - “The motivation actually comes from back when I was teaching. Which is, I want to help other people learn and make teaching accessible.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia" target="_blank">Lucia Cerchie</a></p>
<p>
[25:03] - “Kafka's use cases are not just event-driven web apps. It’s things like main frame conversions, data pipelines.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia" target="_blank">Lucia Cerchie</a></p>
<p>
[40:08] - “I think I would recommend Python to absolute beginners to coding just because of the human readability of the language.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia" target="_blank"> Lucia Cerchie</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia" target="_blank">Lucia Cerchie Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciacerchie" target="_blank">Lucia Cerchie LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.confluent.io/" target="_blank">Confluent</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.confluent.io/" target="_blank">Confluent Developer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iRM1Ghr1k" target="_blank">What is Apache Kafka®? (A Confluent Lightboard by Tim Berglund) + ksqlDB</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/" target="_blank">Apache Kafka Documentation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs" target="_blank">Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration" target="_blank">Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial" target="_blank">Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/confluentinc/demo-scene/tree/master/confluent-ais-demo" target="_blank">AIS demo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/batch32" target="_blank">Barrell Bourbon Batch 032</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.band-aid.com/" target="_blank">Band-Aid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vanillacss.com/" target="_blank">Vanilla CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">Typescript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ibm.com/" target="_blank">IBM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/international/" target="_blank">New York Times</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html" target="_blank">Wordle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://socket.io/" target="_blank">Socket</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank">Vim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/" target="_blank">Kinesis Ergo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dvorak-keyboard.com/" target="_blank">Dvorak Keyboard</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/" target="_blank">Mac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.acquia.com/" target="_blank">Acquia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elixir-lang.org/" target="_blank">Elixir</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8749198/" target="_blank">Daisy Jones &amp; the Six</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fleetwoodmac.com/" target="_blank">Fleetwood Mac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stackoverflow.com/" target="_blank">Stack Overflow</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://neovim.io/" target="_blank">Neovim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://coffeescript.org/" target="_blank">CoffeeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webassembly.org/" target="_blank">WebAssembly</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner/" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Confluent, Kafka, and Developer Advocacy with Lucia Cerchie</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bwq1z0eisazued9rshsf858x/lgpbjs9e7nm0v8hkn5z5tbbz.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3306</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>88</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When you think about the career journey of a software developer, teaching elementary school is not typically the first thing that comes to mind. But for Lucia Cerchie, Developer Advocate at Confluent, her elementary school teaching experience gave her a huge advantage in her work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Lucia discusses her work with Kafka, a distributed event streaming platform, and how she creates content to introduce developers to Kafka more easily, especially for beginners. She explains Kafka’s scalability and how it can handle large amounts of data in real-time, making it a great choice for processing high volumes of data. But Kafka isn’t the answer for everyone. Lucia emphasizes the importance of understanding the &#34;why&#34; behind using it and knowing when to leverage it based on the problem at hand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lucia talks to Robbie and Chuck about her journey from being an elementary school teacher to her career in developer advocacy, her work at Confluent with Kafka, and how she creates content to make complex technologies more accessible. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - Introduction to Lucia Cerchie.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:46] - A whiskey review: Barrel Bourbon Batch 032.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:45] - Hot takes from Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:21] - Lucia’s path to becoming a developer advocate.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:58] - Lucia explains Kafka.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:35] - Lucia explains Confluent and its business model.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:15] - Programming languages Lucia has used in her tutorials.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:17] - Chuck, Robbie, and Lucia talk about exercise.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:45] - Lucia talks about her hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:01] - “The motivation actually comes from back when I was teaching. Which is, I want to help other people learn and make teaching accessible.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:03] - “Kafka&#39;s use cases are not just event-driven web apps. It’s things like main frame conversions, data pipelines.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[40:08] - “I think I would recommend Python to absolute beginners to coding just because of the human readability of the language.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Lucia Cerchie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CerchieLucia&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/luciacerchie&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lucia Cerchie LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.confluent.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confluent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.confluent.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confluent Developer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06iRM1Ghr1k&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;What is Apache Kafka®? (A Confluent Lightboard by Tim Berglund) + ksqlDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apache Kafka Documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/learn-about-CLIs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/magic-byte-illustration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cerchie/git-cherry-pick-tutorial&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/confluentinc/demo-scene/tree/master/confluent-ais-demo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AIS demo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/batch32&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Bourbon Batch 032&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.band-aid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Band-Aid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vanillacss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Typescript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ibm.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;IBM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/international/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wordle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://socket.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Socket&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kinesis Ergo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dvorak-keyboard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dvorak Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.acquia.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Acquia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elixir-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elixir&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8749198/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Daisy Jones &amp;amp; the Six&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fleetwoodmac.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fleetwood Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stack Overflow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://neovim.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Neovim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coffeescript.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CoffeeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webassembly.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WebAssembly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bwq1z0eisazued9rshsf858x/jak3b8aid1r1cphw0c0b3acq/transcoded-01KECKDYN62RJQRN7YPKK3SH06-01KECKDYN676DBFK205XWQD39X_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Twitter Open Source Algorithm, Home Labs, and Chat GPT vs. Bard</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Twitter released its open-source algorithm and developers like Robbie and Chuck are digging into the code to find out what they have been hiding. While the recommendation algorithm has been useful, it also has major pitfalls. Twitter’s algorithm categorizes and deprioritizes users from appearing on people&#39;s feeds which is frustrating when your page is the one being deprioritized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Google launched its AI competitor, Bard. In a rap battle, ChatGPT emerged victorious, and the two AIs even agreed to take over the world together, which the hosts found somewhat creepy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about biases they discovered in Twitter’s open-source algorithm, how developers are turning home networks into high-tech home labs, and how Google’s new AI compares to ChatGPT.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:45] - A whiskey review: Jack Daniel’s Old No. 7.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:16] - Ways to improve safety on websites.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:00] - Twitter makes its algorithm open source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:00] - What are home labs?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Bard vs. ChatGPT.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:47] - Virginia Tech Women’s Basketball team in the Final 4.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:08] - “Twitter source code, there&#39;s a lot to start to unravel there, but it&#39;s nice that the algorithms are out.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:27] - “There’s a whole culture of home lab creation, and it’s essentially like taking your home network and elevating it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:46] - “Mutanies are bad but, whenever one goes the way you want we call it a revolution instead.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Glencairn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.destinationimagination.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Destination Imagination&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.odysseyofthemind.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Odyssey of the Mind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepsi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepsi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.millerhighlife.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Miller High Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bigleaguechew.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Big League Chew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.sinatra.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frank Sinatra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hpnotiq.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hpnotiq&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bacardilimited.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bacardi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://drpepper.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dr Pepper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.koolaid.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kool-Aid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/features/copilot&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Copilot &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Javascript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;IndexedDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.scala-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scala&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Donald Trump&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dazed and Confused&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SolidJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kubernetes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.amazon.com/alexa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alexa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pi-hole.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pi-hole&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.home-assistant.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Home Assistant&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.raspberrypi.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rasberry Pi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.minecraft.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Minecraft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://archlinux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arch Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gnome.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gnome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/download.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dominos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dominos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextcloud.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nextcloud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bard.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sharegpt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ShareGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://primlogix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prim Logix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/mml-official-bracket/2023-04-03/latest-bracket-schedule-and-scores-2023-ncaa-mens-tournament&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NCAA Tournament 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA World Cup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.espn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ESPN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.premierleague.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Premier League&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;McDonald’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tabasco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tabasco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e11da76e-d7a1-11ed-b7a9-eff6543301b4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zl26gp2sne1jl3ix03gwv2bt.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter released its open-source algorithm and developers like Robbie and Chuck are digging into the code to find out what they have been hiding. While the recommendation algorithm has been useful, it also has major pitfalls. Twitter’s algorithm categorizes and deprioritizes users from appearing on people's feeds which is frustrating when your page is the one being deprioritized.</p>
<p>
Google launched its AI competitor, Bard. In a rap battle, ChatGPT emerged victorious, and the two AIs even agreed to take over the world together, which the hosts found somewhat creepy.<br><br>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about biases they discovered in Twitter’s open-source algorithm, how developers are turning home networks into high-tech home labs, and how Google’s new AI compares to ChatGPT.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:45] - A whiskey review: Jack Daniel’s Old No. 7.
</li>
  <li>[14:16] - Ways to improve safety on websites.
</li>
  <li>[20:00] - Twitter makes its algorithm open source.
</li>
  <li>[29:00] - What are home labs?
</li>
  <li>[45:05] - Bard vs. ChatGPT.
</li>
  <li>[50:47] - Virginia Tech Women’s Basketball team in the Final 4.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[25:08] - “Twitter source code, there's a lot to start to unravel there, but it's nice that the algorithms are out.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[29:27] - “There’s a whole culture of home lab creation, and it’s essentially like taking your home network and elevating it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[37:46] - “Mutanies are bad but, whenever one goes the way you want we call it a revolution instead.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.jimbeam.com/en" target="_blank">Jim Beam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com/" target="_blank">Glencairn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.destinationimagination.org/" target="_blank">Destination Imagination</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.odysseyofthemind.com/" target="_blank">Odyssey of the Mind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepsi.com/" target="_blank">Pepsi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.millerhighlife.com/" target="_blank">Miller High Life</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bigleaguechew.com/" target="_blank">Big League Chew</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.sinatra.com/" target="_blank">Frank Sinatra</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hpnotiq.com/" target="_blank">Hpnotiq</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bacardilimited.com/" target="_blank">Bacardi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://drpepper.com/" target="_blank">Dr Pepper</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.koolaid.com/" target="_blank">Kool-Aid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/features/copilot" target="_blank">GitHub Copilot </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.javascript.com/" target="_blank">Javascript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API" target="_blank">IndexedDB</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.scala-lang.org/" target="_blank">Scala</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" target="_blank">Donald Trump</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/" target="_blank">Dazed and Confused</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">SolidJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kubernetes.io/" target="_blank">Kubernetes</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.amazon.com/alexa" target="_blank">Alexa</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pi-hole.net/" target="_blank">Pi-hole</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.home-assistant.io/" target="_blank">Home Assistant</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.raspberrypi.com/" target="_blank">Rasberry Pi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.minecraft.net/" target="_blank">Minecraft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://archlinux.org/" target="_blank">Arch Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gnome.org/" target="_blank">Gnome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vim.org/download.php" target="_blank">Vim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dominos.com/" target="_blank">Dominos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextcloud.com/" target="_blank">Nextcloud</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bard.google.com/" target="_blank">Bard</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sharegpt.com/" target="_blank">ShareGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gitlab.com/users/sign_in" target="_blank">GitLab</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://primlogix.com/" target="_blank">Prim Logix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vt.edu/" target="_blank">Virginia Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/mml-official-bracket/2023-04-03/latest-bracket-schedule-and-scores-2023-ncaa-mens-tournament" target="_blank">NCAA Tournament 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" target="_blank">FIFA World Cup</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.espn.com/" target="_blank">ESPN</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" target="_blank">Premier League</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank">McDonald’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tabasco.com/" target="_blank">Tabasco</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Twitter Open Source Algorithm, Home Labs, and Chat GPT vs. Bard</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zl26gp2sne1jl3ix03gwv2bt/bhu8624q88t90qehgpwhzma1.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3782</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Twitter released its open-source algorithm and developers like Robbie and Chuck are digging into the code to find out what they have been hiding. While the recommendation algorithm has been useful, it also has major pitfalls. Twitter’s algorithm categorizes and deprioritizes users from appearing on people&#39;s feeds which is frustrating when your page is the one being deprioritized.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Google launched its AI competitor, Bard. In a rap battle, ChatGPT emerged victorious, and the two AIs even agreed to take over the world together, which the hosts found somewhat creepy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about biases they discovered in Twitter’s open-source algorithm, how developers are turning home networks into high-tech home labs, and how Google’s new AI compares to ChatGPT.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:45] - A whiskey review: Jack Daniel’s Old No. 7.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:16] - Ways to improve safety on websites.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:00] - Twitter makes its algorithm open source.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:00] - What are home labs?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Bard vs. ChatGPT.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:47] - Virginia Tech Women’s Basketball team in the Final 4.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:08] - “Twitter source code, there&#39;s a lot to start to unravel there, but it&#39;s nice that the algorithms are out.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:27] - “There’s a whole culture of home lab creation, and it’s essentially like taking your home network and elevating it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:46] - “Mutanies are bad but, whenever one goes the way you want we call it a revolution instead.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jimbeam.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jim Beam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zl26gp2sne1jl3ix03gwv2bt/eqzu0il2qjs7yf5a3ighjhqk/transcoded-01KECKE1T359YSS0FYKKCX3NC3-01KECKE1T3B5JG64EV027M8JNM_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Layoffs, the Economy, and Remote Work</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The tech industry is still grappling with the aftermath of the second dot com crash. Executives are cash grabbing, banks are failing and the government seems to be turning a blind eye. Will executives replace all their developers with AI? &lt;/p&gt;
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It can be difficult to not turn your frustration to the C-suite when they seem to be getting more wealthy by cutting labor costs. Meanwhile, developers are living with the uncertainty and financial burden of ongoing tech layoffs. The industry’s business practices and poor regulation seem a casualty of the pandemic from which the tech industry hasn’t recovered. &lt;/p&gt;
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In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the concerning state of the tech industry and the economy, ongoing layoffs and their impact on developers&#39; lives, and the shift in remote work culture.
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] - A whiskey review: Black Button Single Barrel Finished in Port Cask.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:58] - Chuck and Robbie discuss how the pandemic has affected tech jobs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss college loyalty.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:00] - Robbie talks about his upgraded camera setup.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:58] - Chuck receives his Rivian R1S.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:15] - “I’m a fan of capitalism in general, but there has got to be more regulation around it.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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[20:07] - “Everybody loves capitalism until it doesn’t work for them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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[22:27] - “Facebook killed MySpace, and ever since, I’ve hated them.“ ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9b583960-d30f-11ed-b5db-5369b3363b19</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rebzh56s70ddum0bbg9i70kc.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tech industry is still grappling with the aftermath of the second dot com crash. Executives are cash grabbing, banks are failing and the government seems to be turning a blind eye. Will executives replace all their developers with AI? </p>
<p>
It can be difficult to not turn your frustration to the C-suite when they seem to be getting more wealthy by cutting labor costs. Meanwhile, developers are living with the uncertainty and financial burden of ongoing tech layoffs. The industry’s business practices and poor regulation seem a casualty of the pandemic from which the tech industry hasn’t recovered. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the concerning state of the tech industry and the economy, ongoing layoffs and their impact on developers' lives, and the shift in remote work culture.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:35] - A whiskey review: Black Button Single Barrel Finished in Port Cask.
</li>
  <li>[08:58] - Chuck and Robbie discuss how the pandemic has affected tech jobs.
</li>
  <li>[33:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss college loyalty.
</li>
  <li>[41:00] - Robbie talks about his upgraded camera setup.
</li>
  <li>[43:58] - Chuck receives his Rivian R1S.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[17:15] - “I’m a fan of capitalism in general, but there has got to be more regulation around it.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank"> Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[20:07] - “Everybody loves capitalism until it doesn’t work for them.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[22:27] - “Facebook killed MySpace, and ever since, I’ve hated them.“ ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101507/" target="_blank">Boyz n the Hood</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://blackbuttondistilling.com/" target="_blank">Black Button Distilling</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fda.gov/" target="_blank">FDA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://newyorkwines.org/winery/ports-of-new-york/" target="_blank">Ports of New York Winery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.salamanderresort.com/dine/signature-cake" target="_blank">Salamander Signature Cake</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepperidgefarm.com/" target="_blank">Pepperidge Farm</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/" target="_blank">Federal Reserve</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.aa.com/homePage.do" target="_blank">American Airlines</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.firstrepublic.com/" target="_blank">First Republic Bank</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.paypal.com/" target="_blank">PayPal</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/profile/peter-thiel/" target="_blank">Peter Thiel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dogecoin.com/" target="_blank">Dogecoin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vt.edu/" target="_blank">Virginia Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.innatvirginiatech.com/" target="_blank">The Inn at Virginia Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/reservation" target="_blank">Holiday Inn </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank">McDonald’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.arbys.com/" target="_blank">Arby’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/" target="_blank">Chick-Fil-A</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePrimeagen/videos" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.learnwithjason.dev/" target="_blank">Learn with Jason</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-range-rover/index.html" target="_blank">Range Rover</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rivian.com/" target="_blank">Rivian</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.audiusa.com/" target="_blank">Audi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chevrolet.com/" target="_blank">Chevrolet</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://carsandbids.com/" target="_blank">Cars and Bids</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsqjHFMB_JYTaEnf_vmTNqg" target="_blank">Doug DeMuro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/" target="_blank">Ford</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.meundies.com/" target="_blank">MeUndies</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hanes.com/" target="_blank">Hanes</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.toddsnyder.com/" target="_blank">Todd Snyder</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuoriclothing.com/" target="_blank">Vuori </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8068860/" target="_blank">Servant</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091817/" target="_blank">Rad </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124397/" target="_blank">Skate or Die</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy" target="_blank">Ted Lasso</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" target="_blank">Premier League</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/fifa" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Meta/" target="_blank">Meta</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bitski.com/@shipshapecode/created" target="_blank">Bitski @shipshapecode</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Layoffs, the Economy, and Remote Work</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rebzh56s70ddum0bbg9i70kc/uco5cs01m7616s67y2zu38vb.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3565</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>86</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The tech industry is still grappling with the aftermath of the second dot com crash. Executives are cash grabbing, banks are failing and the government seems to be turning a blind eye. Will executives replace all their developers with AI? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It can be difficult to not turn your frustration to the C-suite when they seem to be getting more wealthy by cutting labor costs. Meanwhile, developers are living with the uncertainty and financial burden of ongoing tech layoffs. The industry’s business practices and poor regulation seem a casualty of the pandemic from which the tech industry hasn’t recovered. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the concerning state of the tech industry and the economy, ongoing layoffs and their impact on developers&#39; lives, and the shift in remote work culture.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:35] - A whiskey review: Black Button Single Barrel Finished in Port Cask.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:58] - Chuck and Robbie discuss how the pandemic has affected tech jobs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss college loyalty.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[41:00] - Robbie talks about his upgraded camera setup.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:58] - Chuck receives his Rivian R1S.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:15] - “I’m a fan of capitalism in general, but there has got to be more regulation around it.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:07] - “Everybody loves capitalism until it doesn’t work for them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:27] - “Facebook killed MySpace, and ever since, I’ve hated them.“ ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101507/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Boyz n the Hood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackbuttondistilling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Black Button Distilling&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fda.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FDA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://newyorkwines.org/winery/ports-of-new-york/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ports of New York Winery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salamanderresort.com/dine/signature-cake&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salamander Signature Cake&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pepperidgefarm.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepperidge Farm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.federalreserve.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Federal Reserve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.aa.com/homePage.do&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;American Airlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.firstrepublic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;First Republic Bank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.paypal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PayPal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.forbes.com/profile/peter-thiel/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peter Thiel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dogecoin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dogecoin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vt.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.innatvirginiatech.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Inn at Virginia Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/reservation&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Inn &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;McDonald’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.arbys.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arby’s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chick-fil-a.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chick-Fil-A&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePrimeagen/videos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learnwithjason.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learn with Jason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-range-rover/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Range Rover&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rivian.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rivian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.audiusa.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Audi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chevrolet.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chevrolet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://carsandbids.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cars and Bids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsqjHFMB_JYTaEnf_vmTNqg&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Doug DeMuro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meundies.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MeUndies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hanes.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hanes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.toddsnyder.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Todd Snyder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuoriclothing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vuori &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8068860/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Servant&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091817/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rad &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124397/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skate or Die&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ted Lasso&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.premierleague.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Premier League&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/Meta/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Meta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bitski.com/@shipshapecode/created&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bitski @shipshapecode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rebzh56s70ddum0bbg9i70kc/ui1bw2a8628d6f99qvu9o3pl/transcoded-01KECKD17363NGKKQ3HBWPFD4Y-01KECKD1737TA7J5S33A8X10C2_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Exploring Open-Source and SolidJS with Ryan Carniato</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Ryan Carniato, Creator of SolidJS and Principal Engineer at Netlify, has always had a love for music and tech. He set his punk rock dreams aside and settled down to become a full-time engineer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ryan started programming at the age of 11 and got his first job at eBay where he contributed to their top open-source project, Marko. After building his network and experience in open source, he landed a job with Netlify living many developers’ dreams of getting paid to work on open-source projects. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ryan talks to Chuck and Robbie about working on open-source projects, his experiences at eBay and Netlify, and his thoughts on TypeScript and inferred types versus explicit types.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Ryan Carniato.&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:18] - A whiskey review - Barrel  Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:54] - Ryan comments on tech hot takes from Twitter.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:21] - How Ryan started programming at 11 years old.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:50] - Ryan&#39;s journey into working on open-source projects.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:48] - Ryan talks about music, hiking, and video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:04] - “When you think of Typescript, you think of something concrete, like something you can build on, and dependable. In Javascript, it&#39;s more like an art. Kinda like painting.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:14] - “I think at a young age where you can find those things that you are empowered to just do whatever you feel like, it&#39;s super powerful.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:14] - “Our biggest bottleneck is the network and the devices that are in the users&#39; hands.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://northvanrumblers.bandcamp.com/track/addiction&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mr. Solid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SoildJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ebay.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;eBay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/infinite&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrel Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.motley.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Motley Crue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://genesismini.sega.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SEGA Genesis &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bestbuy.com/site/computer-tablet-services/geek-squad-24-7-support-welcome/pcmcat748300520360.c?id=pcmcat748300520360&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Geek Squad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jurassic Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://knockoutjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Knockout JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://markojs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marko JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-madness-netflix-series-everything-we-know-02-2023/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Madness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1502648/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Clash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Fidelity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/_developit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Miller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mesaboogie.com/en-US/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mesa Boogie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/app/613830/CHRONO_TRIGGER/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chrono Triggers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dnd.wizards.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewitcher.com/us/en/witcher3&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playgwent.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gwent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/Skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mariokarttour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mario Kart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9680fcca-ccc9-11ed-84c9-a7c792dced13</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/iwn4ix3qj5h0wecl64uzy0le.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Carniato, Creator of SolidJS and Principal Engineer at Netlify, has always had a love for music and tech. He set his punk rock dreams aside and settled down to become a full-time engineer. </p>
<p>
Ryan started programming at the age of 11 and got his first job at eBay where he contributed to their top open-source project, Marko. After building his network and experience in open source, he landed a job with Netlify living many developers’ dreams of getting paid to work on open-source projects. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Ryan talks to Chuck and Robbie about working on open-source projects, his experiences at eBay and Netlify, and his thoughts on TypeScript and inferred types versus explicit types.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:31] - Introduction to Ryan Carniato.</li>
 <li>[02:18] - A whiskey review - Barrel  Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project.</li>
  <li>[10:54] - Ryan comments on tech hot takes from Twitter.</li>
  <li>[15:21] - How Ryan started programming at 11 years old.</li>
  <li>[19:50] - Ryan's journey into working on open-source projects.</li>
  <li>[45:48] - Ryan talks about music, hiking, and video games.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[13:04] - “When you think of Typescript, you think of something concrete, like something you can build on, and dependable. In Javascript, it's more like an art. Kinda like painting.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></p>
<p>
[19:14] - “I think at a young age where you can find those things that you are empowered to just do whatever you feel like, it's super powerful.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></p>
<p>
[29:14] - “Our biggest bottleneck is the network and the devices that are in the users' hands.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://northvanrumblers.bandcamp.com/track/addiction" target="_blank">Mr. Solid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">SoildJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ebay.com/" target="_blank">eBay</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/infinite" target="_blank">Barrel Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.motley.com/" target="_blank">Motley Crue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://genesismini.sega.com/" target="_blank">SEGA Genesis </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Nintendo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/computer-tablet-services/geek-squad-24-7-support-welcome/pcmcat748300520360.c?id=pcmcat748300520360" target="_blank">Geek Squad</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/" target="_blank">Jurassic Park</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://knockoutjs.com/" target="_blank">Knockout JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://backbonejs.org/" target="_blank">Backbone JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://markojs.com/" target="_blank">Marko JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-madness-netflix-series-everything-we-know-02-2023/" target="_blank">The Madness</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1502648/" target="_blank">The Clash</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/" target="_blank">High Fidelity</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://react.dev/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/_developit" target="_blank">Jason Miller</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html" target="_blank">JSX</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mesaboogie.com/en-US/" target="_blank">Mesa Boogie</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/613830/CHRONO_TRIGGER/" target="_blank">Chrono Triggers</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dnd.wizards.com/" target="_blank">Dungeons &amp; Dragons</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/" target="_blank">Twitch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thewitcher.com/us/en/witcher3" target="_blank">The Witcher 3</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playgwent.com/en" target="_blank">Gwent</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/Skyrim" target="_blank">Skyrim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/fifa" target="_blank">FIFA 23</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mariokarttour.com/" target="_blank">Mario Kart</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">Github</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Exploring Open-Source and SolidJS with Ryan Carniato</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/iwn4ix3qj5h0wecl64uzy0le/tw7gajflf650xyzaxe6h7svp.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4183</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>85</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Ryan Carniato, Creator of SolidJS and Principal Engineer at Netlify, has always had a love for music and tech. He set his punk rock dreams aside and settled down to become a full-time engineer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Ryan started programming at the age of 11 and got his first job at eBay where he contributed to their top open-source project, Marko. After building his network and experience in open source, he landed a job with Netlify living many developers’ dreams of getting paid to work on open-source projects. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Ryan talks to Chuck and Robbie about working on open-source projects, his experiences at eBay and Netlify, and his thoughts on TypeScript and inferred types versus explicit types.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:31] - Introduction to Ryan Carniato.&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:18] - A whiskey review - Barrel  Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:54] - Ryan comments on tech hot takes from Twitter.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:21] - How Ryan started programming at 11 years old.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:50] - Ryan&#39;s journey into working on open-source projects.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:48] - Ryan talks about music, hiking, and video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:04] - “When you think of Typescript, you think of something concrete, like something you can build on, and dependable. In Javascript, it&#39;s more like an art. Kinda like painting.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:14] - “I think at a young age where you can find those things that you are empowered to just do whatever you feel like, it&#39;s super powerful.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:14] - “Our biggest bottleneck is the network and the devices that are in the users&#39; hands.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Carniato Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://northvanrumblers.bandcamp.com/track/addiction&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mr. Solid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SoildJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ebay.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;eBay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/infinite&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrel Whiskey Infinity Barrel Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.motley.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Motley Crue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://genesismini.sega.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SEGA Genesis &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bestbuy.com/site/computer-tablet-services/geek-squad-24-7-support-welcome/pcmcat748300520360.c?id=pcmcat748300520360&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Geek Squad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jurassic Park&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://knockoutjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Knockout JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://markojs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Marko JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-madness-netflix-series-everything-we-know-02-2023/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Madness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1502648/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Clash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Fidelity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://react.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/_developit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Miller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mesaboogie.com/en-US/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mesa Boogie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/app/613830/CHRONO_TRIGGER/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chrono Triggers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dnd.wizards.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewitcher.com/us/en/witcher3&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playgwent.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gwent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/Skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mariokarttour.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mario Kart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Github&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/iwn4ix3qj5h0wecl64uzy0le/sy2yap06ymyg6eghwbbponp1/transcoded-01KECKE3F6YN0ZHPMQV2D9G3AW-01KECKE3F68ZHEGM72Q0CQCYYE_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Benefits of Networking, Tech Conferences, and Disney World</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Conferences are one of the best ways to network with like-minded developers and find new insights to bring back to your team. Plus, you might even be able to build your entire wardrobe for the year out of free swag.&lt;br&gt;Chuck and Robbie are no strangers to the conference scene, they’ve attended their fair share back when developers had to find them by word of mouth. Today, there are some aggregators out which apparently have every developer conference type of thing under the sun. Whether you&#39;re going with your team or flying solo, you&#39;re bound to learn something new and hopefully come away with a few takeaways. And let&#39;s not forget the cool locations some conferences are hosted in - definitely a plus.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about upcoming tech conferences in 2023, the benefits of attending conferences and networking with other engineers, and how to convince leadership to invest in conference trips for their team’s professional development.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - A whiskey review: Nashville Barrel Company Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:49] - Upcoming tech conferences and why attendance is beneficial.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - Chuck and Robbie announce they will be recording WWW at EmberConf.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:41] - How do you attend a conference without having to pay for it?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:37] - Chuck’s trip to Disney World.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:19] - Better underwear options than MeUndies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[07:15] - “Going to any conference that&#39;s in a different area or potentially different subject matter than you’re used to is going to help broaden the way you look at things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:11] - “We have been confirmed that we will be recording a live episode of this podcast at EmberConf.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:27] - “It’s important to develop your network, and in subject matters you’re interested in is a great place to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nashville Barrel Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Javascript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://confs.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confs.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dev.events/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dev Events&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Render ATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VueConf US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1780441/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Portlandia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thevillages.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Villages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kinesis 360&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse-mac.910-006471.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Logitech Lif for Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meundies.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MeUndies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.saxxunderwear.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Saxx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bn3th.com/pages/mypakage-is-now-bn3th&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;My Package&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jcrew.com/jm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;J. Crew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adidas.com/us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adidas &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stockx.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;StockX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stadiumgoods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadium Goods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.puma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Puma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mugsyjeans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mugsy Jeans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13315324/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Woman in the House Across the Street from the Girl in the Window&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15677150/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shrinking &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Play Station&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hogwarts Legacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zelda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Uniqlo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">20056e74-c7f5-11ed-8988-dbc8b12ad1d4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rpsu9ddp8fn6ptcy96ssl6t2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conferences are one of the best ways to network with like-minded developers and find new insights to bring back to your team. Plus, you might even be able to build your entire wardrobe for the year out of free swag.<br>Chuck and Robbie are no strangers to the conference scene, they’ve attended their fair share back when developers had to find them by word of mouth. Today, there are some aggregators out which apparently have every developer conference type of thing under the sun. Whether you're going with your team or flying solo, you're bound to learn something new and hopefully come away with a few takeaways. And let's not forget the cool locations some conferences are hosted in - definitely a plus.<br>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about upcoming tech conferences in 2023, the benefits of attending conferences and networking with other engineers, and how to convince leadership to invest in conference trips for their team’s professional development.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:37] - A whiskey review: Nashville Barrel Company Straight Rye Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[04:49] - Upcoming tech conferences and why attendance is beneficial.
</li>
  <li>[17:08] - Chuck and Robbie announce they will be recording WWW at EmberConf.
</li>
  <li>[21:41] - How do you attend a conference without having to pay for it?
</li>
  <li>[25:37] - Chuck’s trip to Disney World.
</li>
  <li>[40:19] - Better underwear options than MeUndies.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[07:15] - “Going to any conference that's in a different area or potentially different subject matter than you’re used to is going to help broaden the way you look at things.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[17:11] - “We have been confirmed that we will be recording a live episode of this podcast at EmberConf.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[25:27] - “It’s important to develop your network, and in subject matters you’re interested in is a great place to do it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/" target="_blank">Reddit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home" target="_blank">Nashville Barrel Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.javascript.com/" target="_blank">Javascript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://confs.tech/" target="_blank">Confs.tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dev.events/" target="_blank">Dev Events</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.renderatl.com/" target="_blank">Render ATL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://us.vuejs.org/" target="_blank">VueConf US</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.emberconf.com/" target="_blank">EmberConf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1780441/" target="_blank">Portlandia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/" target="_blank">Disney World</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thevillages.com/" target="_blank">The Villages</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen" target="_blank">ThePrimeagen </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" target="_blank">Kinesis 360</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse-mac.910-006471.html" target="_blank">Logitech Lif for Mac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.meundies.com/" target="_blank">MeUndies</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.saxxunderwear.com/" target="_blank">Saxx</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bn3th.com/pages/mypakage-is-now-bn3th" target="_blank">My Package</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jcrew.com/jm/" target="_blank">J. Crew</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adidas.com/us" target="_blank">Adidas </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stockx.com/" target="_blank">StockX</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.stadiumgoods.com/" target="_blank">Stadium Goods</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://us.puma.com/" target="_blank">Puma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mugsyjeans.com/" target="_blank">Mugsy Jeans</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13315324/" target="_blank">The Woman in the House Across the Street from the Girl in the Window</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15677150/" target="_blank">Shrinking </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Play Station</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/" target="_blank">Hogwarts Legacy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/" target="_blank">Zelda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo 4</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/" target="_blank">Uniqlo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vans.com/" target="_blank">Vans</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Benefits of Networking, Tech Conferences, and Disney World</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rpsu9ddp8fn6ptcy96ssl6t2/xwzyopr7veodvp4noz19sk68.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3318</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>84</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Conferences are one of the best ways to network with like-minded developers and find new insights to bring back to your team. Plus, you might even be able to build your entire wardrobe for the year out of free swag.&lt;br&gt;Chuck and Robbie are no strangers to the conference scene, they’ve attended their fair share back when developers had to find them by word of mouth. Today, there are some aggregators out which apparently have every developer conference type of thing under the sun. Whether you&#39;re going with your team or flying solo, you&#39;re bound to learn something new and hopefully come away with a few takeaways. And let&#39;s not forget the cool locations some conferences are hosted in - definitely a plus.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about upcoming tech conferences in 2023, the benefits of attending conferences and networking with other engineers, and how to convince leadership to invest in conference trips for their team’s professional development.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - A whiskey review: Nashville Barrel Company Straight Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:49] - Upcoming tech conferences and why attendance is beneficial.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - Chuck and Robbie announce they will be recording WWW at EmberConf.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:41] - How do you attend a conference without having to pay for it?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:37] - Chuck’s trip to Disney World.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:19] - Better underwear options than MeUndies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[07:15] - “Going to any conference that&#39;s in a different area or potentially different subject matter than you’re used to is going to help broaden the way you look at things.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:11] - “We have been confirmed that we will be recording a live episode of this podcast at EmberConf.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:27] - “It’s important to develop your network, and in subject matters you’re interested in is a great place to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.reddit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nashvillebarrelco.com/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nashville Barrel Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Javascript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://confs.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Confs.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dev.events/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dev Events&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.renderatl.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Render ATL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VueConf US&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.emberconf.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1780441/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Portlandia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thevillages.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Villages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/c/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ThePrimeagen &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kinesis 360&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse-mac.910-006471.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Logitech Lif for Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.meundies.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MeUndies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.saxxunderwear.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Saxx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bn3th.com/pages/mypakage-is-now-bn3th&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;My Package&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jcrew.com/jm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;J. Crew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adidas.com/us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adidas &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nike.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stockx.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;StockX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.stadiumgoods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadium Goods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.puma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Puma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mugsyjeans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mugsy Jeans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13315324/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Woman in the House Across the Street from the Girl in the Window&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15677150/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shrinking &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Play Station&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hogwarts Legacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zelda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Uniqlo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vans.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rpsu9ddp8fn6ptcy96ssl6t2/k47fj0c3drz6bavgn1n8ehgz/transcoded-01KECKDYJGP86RW112R47D48G4-01KECKDYJGHQG5NBAAYDJ2NAFW_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>PNPM, Algorithms, and Angular</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It’s hard to find a good package manager, and even the most seasoned developers still struggle to figure them out. Robbie kicks off the tech talk by sharing his misadventures trying to figure out pnpm leading Chuck to ask the burning question “Would you wear a pnpm T-shirt?”&lt;br&gt;Despite Robbie’s struggles in pnpm, he still believes it is the better option compared to alternatives like npm, Yarn V1, or Yarn V3. The duo agree that pnpm fixes the biggest problem with traditional package managers like npm and Yarn V1, which is hoisting. The duo dive deep into the technical aspects of package management, discussing the challenges of installing and managing dependencies in a large-scale project, and how pnpm addresses these challenges. They cover topics like global caching, peer dependencies, and the correct way to define dependencies.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of pnpm, the downsides of using algorithm tests to vet developers, and the exciting new changes coming to Angular. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - Chuck and Robbie ask for feedback and suggestions from listeners.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:55] - A whiskey Review: Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:43] -  Robbie talks about his pnpm adventure.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:34] - Chuck and Robbie’s thoughts on algorithms testing. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:51] - The big changes coming to Angular.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:05] - Robbie talks about his 1970 Ford Bronco.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:22] - Chuck talks about Ted Lasso season three and other TV shows.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:15] - Chuck and Robbie talk about upcoming video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:35] - “The idea of having separate apps in a separate package and piecing those together, good idea. Ember Engines, bad idea.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:16] - “People who have been working with Angular or even, let&#39;s say, five years ago jumped into it, got it, loved it, they really love it. They’re passionate about it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:41] - “I can&#39;t do algorithms, and I&#39;m against algorithm tests.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://michters.com/us1-kentucky-straight-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PNPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yarnpkg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yarn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lodash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lodash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://turbo.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Turborepo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Embroider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Git Submodules&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/signal-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Signal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starbeamjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starbeam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford Bronco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salamanderresort.com/dine/overview&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salamander&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hagerty.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hagerty Insurance Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferrari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ted Lasso&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jenis.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whole Foods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/afcrichmond?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AFC Richmond &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098904/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seinfeld&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8962124/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Emily in Paris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108778/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Friends&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://game.capcom.com/residentevil/sp/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Resident Evil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319969/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Carnivale&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peaky Blinders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbo.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805661/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Black Donnellys&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NBC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5180504/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Superman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955013/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Liam Hemsworth &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Miley Cyrus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/system/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/Skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starfield&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bethesda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://diablo4.blizzard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo 4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Legend of Zelda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fefe748e-bc3f-11ed-9a04-9bfb367c390a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jhj5km13q5alikckyi4mzi8d.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s hard to find a good package manager, and even the most seasoned developers still struggle to figure them out. Robbie kicks off the tech talk by sharing his misadventures trying to figure out pnpm leading Chuck to ask the burning question “Would you wear a pnpm T-shirt?”<br>Despite Robbie’s struggles in pnpm, he still believes it is the better option compared to alternatives like npm, Yarn V1, or Yarn V3. The duo agree that pnpm fixes the biggest problem with traditional package managers like npm and Yarn V1, which is hoisting. The duo dive deep into the technical aspects of package management, discussing the challenges of installing and managing dependencies in a large-scale project, and how pnpm addresses these challenges. They cover topics like global caching, peer dependencies, and the correct way to define dependencies.<br>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of pnpm, the downsides of using algorithm tests to vet developers, and the exciting new changes coming to Angular. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:30] - Chuck and Robbie ask for feedback and suggestions from listeners.
</li>
 <li>[03:55] - A whiskey Review: Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye. 
</li>
  <li>[09:43] -  Robbie talks about his pnpm adventure.
</li>
  <li>[25:34] - Chuck and Robbie’s thoughts on algorithms testing. 
</li>
  <li>[28:51] - The big changes coming to Angular.
</li>
  <li>[38:05] - Robbie talks about his 1970 Ford Bronco.
</li>
  <li>[43:22] - Chuck talks about Ted Lasso season three and other TV shows.
</li>
  <li>[53:15] - Chuck and Robbie talk about upcoming video games.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[21:35] - “The idea of having separate apps in a separate package and piecing those together, good idea. Ember Engines, bad idea.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[32:16] - “People who have been working with Angular or even, let's say, five years ago jumped into it, got it, loved it, they really love it. They’re passionate about it.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[25:41] - “I can't do algorithms, and I'm against algorithm tests.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://michters.com/us1-kentucky-straight-rye/" target="_blank">Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/" target="_blank">Sagamore Spirit Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pnpm.io/" target="_blank">PNPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/" target="_blank">Sarah Drasner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yarnpkg.com/" target="_blank">Yarn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://lodash.com/" target="_blank">Lodash</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://turbo.build/" target="_blank">Turborepo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/embroider-build" target="_blank">Embroider</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules" target="_blank">Git Submodules</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/signal-js" target="_blank">Signal</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starbeamjs.com/" target="_blank">Starbeam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">Shepherd </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/bronco/" target="_blank">Ford Bronco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.salamanderresort.com/dine/overview" target="_blank">Salamander</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hagerty.com/" target="_blank">Hagerty Insurance Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ferrari.com/" target="_blank">Ferrari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10986410/" target="_blank">Ted Lasso</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jenis.com/" target="_blank">Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/" target="_blank">Whole Foods</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/afcrichmond?lang=en" target="_blank">AFC Richmond </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-23" target="_blank">FIFA 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098904/" target="_blank">Seinfeld</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8962124/" target="_blank">Emily in Paris</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108778/" target="_blank">Friends</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://game.capcom.com/residentevil/sp/en/" target="_blank">Resident Evil</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319969/" target="_blank">Carnivale</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/" target="_blank">Peaky Blinders</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbo.com/" target="_blank">HBO</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805661/" target="_blank">The Black Donnellys</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbc.com/" target="_blank">NBC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5180504/" target="_blank">The Witcher</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/" target="_blank">Superman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955013/" target="_blank">Liam Hemsworth </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus" target="_blank">Miley Cyrus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/system/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/Skyrim" target="_blank">Skyrim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield" target="_blank">Starfield</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bethesda.net/" target="_blank">Bethesda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://diablo4.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">Diablo 4</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner/" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>PNPM, Algorithms, and Angular</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jhj5km13q5alikckyi4mzi8d/tcsykemxr35ext31ihrmlrxu.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3467</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>83</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It’s hard to find a good package manager, and even the most seasoned developers still struggle to figure them out. Robbie kicks off the tech talk by sharing his misadventures trying to figure out pnpm leading Chuck to ask the burning question “Would you wear a pnpm T-shirt?”&lt;br&gt;Despite Robbie’s struggles in pnpm, he still believes it is the better option compared to alternatives like npm, Yarn V1, or Yarn V3. The duo agree that pnpm fixes the biggest problem with traditional package managers like npm and Yarn V1, which is hoisting. The duo dive deep into the technical aspects of package management, discussing the challenges of installing and managing dependencies in a large-scale project, and how pnpm addresses these challenges. They cover topics like global caching, peer dependencies, and the correct way to define dependencies.&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of pnpm, the downsides of using algorithm tests to vet developers, and the exciting new changes coming to Angular. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - Chuck and Robbie ask for feedback and suggestions from listeners.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:55] - A whiskey Review: Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:43] -  Robbie talks about his pnpm adventure.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:34] - Chuck and Robbie’s thoughts on algorithms testing. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:51] - The big changes coming to Angular.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[38:05] - Robbie talks about his 1970 Ford Bronco.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[43:22] - Chuck talks about Ted Lasso season three and other TV shows.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:15] - Chuck and Robbie talk about upcoming video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:35] - “The idea of having separate apps in a separate package and piecing those together, good idea. Ember Engines, bad idea.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[32:16] - “People who have been working with Angular or even, let&#39;s say, five years ago jumped into it, got it, loved it, they really love it. They’re passionate about it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:41] - “I can&#39;t do algorithms, and I&#39;m against algorithm tests.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertwilliamwagner/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://michters.com/us1-kentucky-straight-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Michter’s Kentucky Straight Rye &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sagamorespirit.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sagamore Spirit Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PNPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sarahdrasnerdesign.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sarah Drasner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yarnpkg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yarn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://lodash.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lodash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://turbo.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Turborepo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/embroider-build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Embroider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Git Submodules&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/signal-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Signal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starbeamjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starbeam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford Bronco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jhj5km13q5alikckyi4mzi8d/p0djsegmk9x8vvpqh0ehysm1/transcoded-01KECKE0JN2KT9WHZMCSRTE6ZD-01KECKE0JN27DA40J1VKS5Q0AD_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Balancing Legacy Code, Content Creation, and Career Growth with The Primeagen</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Michael Paulson, aka The Primeagen, is known for his live streams, crazy memes, and unpopular opinions on Twitter. But he is also a software engineer with over a decade of experience in a legacy C++ codebase. Juggling engineering with any other hobby is difficult, so how does he make it work?&lt;br&gt;The Primeagen, a software engineer at Netflix, is committed to content creation and passionate about encouraging aspiring developers to get out of “tutorial hell” and start building. He wakes up at 5:30 every morning to make time for family, work, and content creation, but even the most dedicated developers hit roadblocks throughout their careers. The Primeagen’s latest challenge is figuring out how to grow his channel and turn content creation into a sustainable full-time role. &lt;br&gt;In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his strict policies for working in a large legacy code base, the challenges of being a content creator, and his plans to create a new Frontend Master course.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:40] - A whiskey review - Nelson Brother Reserve Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:35] - How to choose between Git rebase versus Git merge.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:11] - How universities are producing equipt programmers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:07] - The Primeagen’s future plans and the challenges associated with growth.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:20] - The Primeagen’s hobbies besides coding.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:52] - Why The Primeagen moved to South Dakota. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[04:50] - “Programming is not supposed to be difficult because you don’t know what you’re doing. Programming is supposed to be difficult because you&#39;re building something hard.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:14] - “The web in the next three years is going to arrive at a crossroad where more than one thing can happen. We can all get a chance to use something that is less traditional. Once those things start happening, it just opens the door for everything to execute. The next big revolution is coming.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[43:20] - “I&#39;m making a thing that I&#39;m pouring my heart into, I hope people like, and then when people don&#39;t watch, oh that hurts.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">bc6aab86-b6b5-11ed-a001-97c218ce5409</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jlk9gthpck2m1sqqhryudlom.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Paulson, aka The Primeagen, is known for his live streams, crazy memes, and unpopular opinions on Twitter. But he is also a software engineer with over a decade of experience in a legacy C++ codebase. Juggling engineering with any other hobby is difficult, so how does he make it work?<br>The Primeagen, a software engineer at Netflix, is committed to content creation and passionate about encouraging aspiring developers to get out of “tutorial hell” and start building. He wakes up at 5:30 every morning to make time for family, work, and content creation, but even the most dedicated developers hit roadblocks throughout their careers. The Primeagen’s latest challenge is figuring out how to grow his channel and turn content creation into a sustainable full-time role. <br>In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his strict policies for working in a large legacy code base, the challenges of being a content creator, and his plans to create a new Frontend Master course.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:22] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
</li>
 <li>[05:40] - A whiskey review - Nelson Brother Reserve Bourbon.
</li>
  <li>[13:35] - How to choose between Git rebase versus Git merge.
</li>
  <li>[26:11] - How universities are producing equipt programmers.
</li>
  <li>[36:07] - The Primeagen’s future plans and the challenges associated with growth.
</li>
  <li>[50:20] - The Primeagen’s hobbies besides coding.
</li>
  <li>[54:52] - Why The Primeagen moved to South Dakota. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[04:50] - “Programming is not supposed to be difficult because you don’t know what you’re doing. Programming is supposed to be difficult because you're building something hard.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p>
[23:14] - “The web in the next three years is going to arrive at a crossroad where more than one thing can happen. We can all get a chance to use something that is less traditional. Once those things start happening, it just opens the door for everything to execute. The next big revolution is coming.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p>
[43:20] - “I'm making a thing that I'm pouring my heart into, I hope people like, and then when people don't watch, oh that hurts.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">The Primeagen</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw" target="_blank">The Primeagen YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen" target="_blank">The Primeagen Twitch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en" target="_blank">The Primeagen Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adultswim.com/videos/rick-and-morty" target="_blank">Rick and Morty</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Matt Pocock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank">Vim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/" target="_blank">Twitch </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">TypeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1365050/" target="_blank">Beasts of No Nation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1958961/" target="_blank">Lilyhammer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://greenbrierdistillery.com/nelsonbros" target="_blank">Nelson Brothers Reserve Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://greenbrierdistillery.com/" target="_blank">Green Brier Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jackdaniels.com/" target="_blank">Jack Daniel’s </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.blantonsbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Blanton’s Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotrace.com/" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://prettier.io/" target="_blank">Prettier</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webassembly.org/" target="_blank">Web Assembly</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html" target="_blank">Adobe Dreamweaver</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://netbeans.apache.org/" target="_blank">NetBeans</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://frontendmasters.com/" target="_blank">Frontend Masters</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mui.com/" target="_blank">Material UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://getbem.com/" target="_blank">Bem</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://georgecarlin.com/" target="_blank">George Carlin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0152638/" target="_blank">Dave Chappelle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70142413" target="_blank">The Chappelle Show</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://brianregan.com/" target="_blank">Brian Regan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/trashh_dev" target="_blank">Trash Dev Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pzuraq.com/" target="_blank">Pzuraq </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://starcraft.com/" target="_blank">StarCraft </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html" target="_blank">Logitech Lift </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-nintendo-entertainment-system-nintendo-switch-online-switch/" target="_blank">Super Nintendo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/" target="_blank">Kinesis Advantage 360</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dvorak-keyboard.com/" target="_blank">Dvorak Keyboard</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.roblox.com/" target="_blank">Roblox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fortnite.com/" target="_blank">Fortnite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends" target="_blank">Apex Legends</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092991/" target="_blank">Evil Dead 2</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nfl.com/super-bowl/event-info/" target="_blank">Superbowl LVII</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/" target="_blank">Philadelphia Eagles</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chiefs.com/" target="_blank">Kansas City Chiefs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nba.com/suns/" target="_blank">Phoenix Suns</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106308/" target="_blank">Army of Darkness</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Play Station</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rxjs.dev/" target="_blank">RxJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vday.io/" target="_blank">Vita</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Wii-Console-Black-Deluxe-U/dp/B009AGXH64" target="_blank">Wii U</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank">Sagamore Rye Whiskey</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Balancing Legacy Code, Content Creation, and Career Growth with The Primeagen</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jlk9gthpck2m1sqqhryudlom/dpli1nt6g30ll2vxhszkja9p.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3904</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>82</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Michael Paulson, aka The Primeagen, is known for his live streams, crazy memes, and unpopular opinions on Twitter. But he is also a software engineer with over a decade of experience in a legacy C++ codebase. Juggling engineering with any other hobby is difficult, so how does he make it work?&lt;br&gt;The Primeagen, a software engineer at Netflix, is committed to content creation and passionate about encouraging aspiring developers to get out of “tutorial hell” and start building. He wakes up at 5:30 every morning to make time for family, work, and content creation, but even the most dedicated developers hit roadblocks throughout their careers. The Primeagen’s latest challenge is figuring out how to grow his channel and turn content creation into a sustainable full-time role. &lt;br&gt;In this episode, The Primeagen talks to Robbie and Chuck about his strict policies for working in a large legacy code base, the challenges of being a content creator, and his plans to create a new Frontend Master course.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Introduction to The Primeagen.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:40] - A whiskey review - Nelson Brother Reserve Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:35] - How to choose between Git rebase versus Git merge.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[26:11] - How universities are producing equipt programmers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:07] - The Primeagen’s future plans and the challenges associated with growth.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:20] - The Primeagen’s hobbies besides coding.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[54:52] - Why The Primeagen moved to South Dakota. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[04:50] - “Programming is not supposed to be difficult because you don’t know what you’re doing. Programming is supposed to be difficult because you&#39;re building something hard.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:14] - “The web in the next three years is going to arrive at a crossroad where more than one thing can happen. We can all get a chance to use something that is less traditional. Once those things start happening, it just opens the door for everything to execute. The next big revolution is coming.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[43:20] - “I&#39;m making a thing that I&#39;m pouring my heart into, I hope people like, and then when people don&#39;t watch, oh that hurts.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ENHE5xdFSwx71u3fDH5Xw&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/theprimeagen&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Twitch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/theprimeagen/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Primeagen Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adultswim.com/videos/rick-and-morty&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rick and Morty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mattpocockuk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matt Pocock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.twitch.tv/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitch &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.youtube.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TypeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1365050/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Beasts of No Nation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1958961/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lilyhammer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greenbrierdistillery.com/nelsonbros&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nelson Brothers Reserve Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://greenbrierdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Green Brier Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jackdaniels.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jack Daniel’s &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.blantonsbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Blanton’s Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotrace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://prettier.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prettier&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webassembly.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Web Assembly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://netbeans.apache.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NetBeans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://frontendmasters.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frontend Masters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getbem.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://georgecarlin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;George Carlin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0152638/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dave Chappelle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/70142413&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Chappelle Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brianregan.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brian Regan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/trashh_dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Trash Dev Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pzuraq.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pzuraq &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starcraft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;StarCraft &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.logitech.com/en-ca/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Logitech Lift &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/super-nintendo-entertainment-system-nintendo-switch-online-switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Super Nintendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kinesis Advantage 360&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dvorak-keyboard.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dvorak Keyboard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roblox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roblox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fortnite.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fortnite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apex Legends&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092991/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Evil Dead 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nfl.com/super-bowl/event-info/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Superbowl LVII&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Philadelphia Eagles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nba.com/suns/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Phoenix Suns&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jlk9gthpck2m1sqqhryudlom/u8gfbygvm069r6kzuvgrgg7l/transcoded-01KECKE26T2PPJ7VSNPBSATXMJ-01KECKE26TXDGYZWYX02RVREV3_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Prioritizing the Team Over the Tool with Jason Lengstorf</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Jason Lengstorf built up an audience on YouTube by doing unscripted live coding and sharing his mistakes with his community. He credits his background as a musician and frontman of an emo band for helping him get comfortable with looking foolish in front of people. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As the host of Learn With Jason, he believes there is no right or wrong answer when it comes to choosing a web development tool, as long as the decision is based on the team’s experience and the situation that the tool will enhance. Jason shares his experience and lessons learned at IBM where they allowed teams to use any tool they wanted. This resulted in different parts of the platform being built with different frameworks and the need to standardize. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jason talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of choosing the right web development tool for the job, the adoption possibilities for Astro, and what the future holds for open-source developers.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - Introduction to Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:03] - A whiskey review: Heaven Hill Bottled-in-Bond.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:06] - Jason’s opinion on Tailwind and how to choose the correct web tool.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:16] - What makes Astro powerful?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:16] - Funding open-source projects.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:19] - How Jason feels about Redwood JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:44] - Incorporating TypeScript in personal projects.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:17] - Jason’s interests in pajama pants and burgers.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:34] - “You should use whatever you can convince your whole team to use. A lot of the discussion about which tool is right or wrong is sort of missing the forest for the trees.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:46] - “If you have a group of people who have an expertise or a lack of expertise, then the tools you choose should be polyfilling for where they’re at and allowing them to use their strengths.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:53] - “The only way that you can really use a tool wrong is if you’re dragging people kicking and screaming against their will into using a tool. You’re just setting yourself up for failure.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">164a8566-b154-11ed-b516-538d347914b4</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/pth55km5n6golgmmmo8mguof.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Lengstorf built up an audience on YouTube by doing unscripted live coding and sharing his mistakes with his community. He credits his background as a musician and frontman of an emo band for helping him get comfortable with looking foolish in front of people. </p>
<p>
As the host of Learn With Jason, he believes there is no right or wrong answer when it comes to choosing a web development tool, as long as the decision is based on the team’s experience and the situation that the tool will enhance. Jason shares his experience and lessons learned at IBM where they allowed teams to use any tool they wanted. This resulted in different parts of the platform being built with different frameworks and the need to standardize. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Jason talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of choosing the right web development tool for the job, the adoption possibilities for Astro, and what the future holds for open-source developers.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:33] - Introduction to Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason.
</li>
  <li>[05:03] - A whiskey review: Heaven Hill Bottled-in-Bond.
</li>
  <li>[15:06] - Jason’s opinion on Tailwind and how to choose the correct web tool.
</li>
  <li>[22:16] - What makes Astro powerful?
</li>
  <li>[29:16] - Funding open-source projects.
</li>
  <li>[44:19] - How Jason feels about Redwood JS.
</li>
  <li>[47:44] - Incorporating TypeScript in personal projects.
</li>
  <li>[50:17] - Jason’s interests in pajama pants and burgers.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[15:34] - “You should use whatever you can convince your whole team to use. A lot of the discussion about which tool is right or wrong is sort of missing the forest for the trees.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
<p>
[16:46] - “If you have a group of people who have an expertise or a lack of expertise, then the tools you choose should be polyfilling for where they’re at and allowing them to use their strengths.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
<p>
[20:53] - “The only way that you can really use a tool wrong is if you’re dragging people kicking and screaming against their will into using a tool. You’re just setting yourself up for failure.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Jason Lengstorf</a></p>
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  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ezrabrooks.com/" target="_blank">Ezra Brooks Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://evanwilliams.com/" target="_blank">Evan Williams Bourbon</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://www.febreze.com/en-us" target="_blank">Febreze</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bacardi.com/the-legend-of-bacardi-151-rum/" target="_blank">Bacardi 151</a></li>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Prioritizing the Team Over the Tool with Jason Lengstorf</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pth55km5n6golgmmmo8mguof/magcmerovjccz13hj4xdkuu6.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3898</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>81</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jason Lengstorf built up an audience on YouTube by doing unscripted live coding and sharing his mistakes with his community. He credits his background as a musician and frontman of an emo band for helping him get comfortable with looking foolish in front of people. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As the host of Learn With Jason, he believes there is no right or wrong answer when it comes to choosing a web development tool, as long as the decision is based on the team’s experience and the situation that the tool will enhance. Jason shares his experience and lessons learned at IBM where they allowed teams to use any tool they wanted. This resulted in different parts of the platform being built with different frameworks and the need to standardize. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Jason talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of choosing the right web development tool for the job, the adoption possibilities for Astro, and what the future holds for open-source developers.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:33] - Introduction to Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:03] - A whiskey review: Heaven Hill Bottled-in-Bond.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:06] - Jason’s opinion on Tailwind and how to choose the correct web tool.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:16] - What makes Astro powerful?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:16] - Funding open-source projects.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:19] - How Jason feels about Redwood JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:44] - Incorporating TypeScript in personal projects.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:17] - Jason’s interests in pajama pants and burgers.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[15:34] - “You should use whatever you can convince your whole team to use. A lot of the discussion about which tool is right or wrong is sort of missing the forest for the trees.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:46] - “If you have a group of people who have an expertise or a lack of expertise, then the tools you choose should be polyfilling for where they’re at and allowing them to use their strengths.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:53] - “The only way that you can really use a tool wrong is if you’re dragging people kicking and screaming against their will into using a tool. You’re just setting yourself up for failure.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/jlengstorf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlengstorf/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jason Lengstorf LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pth55km5n6golgmmmo8mguof/i3ganuq0fage2im6a5zi6s7k/transcoded-01KECKE29JWMZFMDEF9CP6REH0-01KECKE29JWECH9CWY34KGZXVW_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Astro 2.0, Island Architecture, and React with Fred K. Schott</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Astro 2.0 is launching new exciting features and it’s setting the bar for HTML frameworks. What makes Astro unique in web development and what are its future possibilities? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Fred K. Schott, CEO of the Astro Technology Company, says it’s all in the framework’s content focus and island architecture. For Fred, the aim is to have a tool that&#39;s HTML-first but still sprinkles in interactivity and allows developers to bring in components from other frameworks. They focused on solving the problem of sending a full JavaScript application to power a mostly static site. The attention to developer experience paid off and is one of the reasons Astro is creating waves in the developer community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Fred talks with Chuck and Robbie about how Astro uses an HTML-first approach to create content-focused websites, the latest features of Astro V2, and the trend of blindly using popular frameworks like React.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:21] - An introduction to Fred K. Schott.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:19] - A whiskey review: Pinhook: Artist Series Release No. 2 Whiskey Nicking.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:07] - The challenge of creating forms in Astro vs. other platforms.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:32] -  React’s strengths and weaknesses.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:55] - What makes Astro unique?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:25] - Fred’s favorite HTML element.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:57] - Fred’s hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[02:36] - “Someone once described Astro as the first web framework that’s HTML first without hating developers for not using HTML, and I always resonated with that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:12] - “I think you can’t talk about React without talking about where the web was at that point. We had a template in two different code bases, two different languages, it was a mess. And that’s the world that React came in and kind of saved us from.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:38] - “What makes (Astro) unique is our content focus. We talked about, you have one Solid component that’s a form and otherwise a mainly static site, that’s exactly where Astro shines.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://fredkschott.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredkschott&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://astro.build/chat&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/astrodotbuild?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/astro-2/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;amp;utm_campaign=podcast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro 2.0 Details&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/introducing-content-collections/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;amp;utm_campaign=podcast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Content Collections&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/hybrid-rendering/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;amp;utm_campaign=podcast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Hybrid Rendering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e69605f4-abc0-11ed-b953-5fef952dc4a3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xyenzomzw4f3a988x1za0vgz.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astro 2.0 is launching new exciting features and it’s setting the bar for HTML frameworks. What makes Astro unique in web development and what are its future possibilities? </p>
<p>
Fred K. Schott, CEO of the Astro Technology Company, says it’s all in the framework’s content focus and island architecture. For Fred, the aim is to have a tool that's HTML-first but still sprinkles in interactivity and allows developers to bring in components from other frameworks. They focused on solving the problem of sending a full JavaScript application to power a mostly static site. The attention to developer experience paid off and is one of the reasons Astro is creating waves in the developer community. <br><br>In this episode, Fred talks with Chuck and Robbie about how Astro uses an HTML-first approach to create content-focused websites, the latest features of Astro V2, and the trend of blindly using popular frameworks like React.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:21] - An introduction to Fred K. Schott.
</li>
 <li>[03:19] - A whiskey review: Pinhook: Artist Series Release No. 2 Whiskey Nicking.
</li>
  <li>[19:07] - The challenge of creating forms in Astro vs. other platforms.
</li>
  <li>[23:32] -  React’s strengths and weaknesses.
</li>
  <li>[30:55] - What makes Astro unique?
</li>
  <li>[44:25] - Fred’s favorite HTML element.
</li>
  <li>[47:57] - Fred’s hobbies.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[02:36] - “Someone once described Astro as the first web framework that’s HTML first without hating developers for not using HTML, and I always resonated with that.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott</a></p>
<p>
[26:12] - “I think you can’t talk about React without talking about where the web was at that point. We had a template in two different code bases, two different languages, it was a mess. And that’s the world that React came in and kind of saved us from.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott</a></p>
<p>
[31:38] - “What makes (Astro) unique is our content focus. We talked about, you have one Solid component that’s a form and otherwise a mainly static site, that’s exactly where Astro shines.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="http://fredkschott.com/" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredkschott" target="_blank">Fred K. Schott LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://astro.build/chat" target="_blank">Astro Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/astrodotbuild?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Astro Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/blog/astro-2/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;utm_campaign=podcast" target="_blank">Astro 2.0 Details</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/blog/introducing-content-collections/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;utm_campaign=podcast" target="_blank">Astro Content Collections</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/blog/hybrid-rendering/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;utm_medium=link&amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;utm_campaign=podcast" target="_blank">Astro Hybrid Rendering</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thejackforge.com/" target="_blank">Jack Forge</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAzrgbu8gEMIIK3r4Se1dOZWSZzUSadfZ" target="_blank">Hot Ones</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kentcdodds.com/" target="_blank">Kent C. Dodds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pinhookbourbon.com/pages/artistseries" target="_blank">Pinhook: Artist Series Release No. 2 Whiskey Nicking</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.makersmark.com/" target="_blank">Maker’s Mark Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/en/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">SolidJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/" target="_blank">Josh Collinsworth</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">JQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.json.org/" target="_blank">JSon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbc.com/" target="_blank">NBC</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dev.to/ryansolid" target="_blank">Ryan Carniato</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://www.gatsbyjs.com/" target="_blank">Gatsby</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty" target="_blank">The JS Party Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com/" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://secondlife.com/" target="_blank">Second Life</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/games/simcity" target="_blank">SimCity</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.benjerry.com/" target="_blank">Ben and Jerry’s</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.snowpack.dev/" target="_blank">Snowpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://Polymer" target="_blank">Polymer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zachleat.com/" target="_blank">Zach Leatherman</a></li>
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</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Astro 2.0, Island Architecture, and React with Fred K. Schott</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xyenzomzw4f3a988x1za0vgz/li4226xb1wz2iyq0haxdqmd6.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3577</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Astro 2.0 is launching new exciting features and it’s setting the bar for HTML frameworks. What makes Astro unique in web development and what are its future possibilities? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Fred K. Schott, CEO of the Astro Technology Company, says it’s all in the framework’s content focus and island architecture. For Fred, the aim is to have a tool that&#39;s HTML-first but still sprinkles in interactivity and allows developers to bring in components from other frameworks. They focused on solving the problem of sending a full JavaScript application to power a mostly static site. The attention to developer experience paid off and is one of the reasons Astro is creating waves in the developer community. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Fred talks with Chuck and Robbie about how Astro uses an HTML-first approach to create content-focused websites, the latest features of Astro V2, and the trend of blindly using popular frameworks like React.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:21] - An introduction to Fred K. Schott.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:19] - A whiskey review: Pinhook: Artist Series Release No. 2 Whiskey Nicking.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:07] - The challenge of creating forms in Astro vs. other platforms.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:32] -  React’s strengths and weaknesses.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:55] - What makes Astro unique?
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:25] - Fred’s favorite HTML element.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:57] - Fred’s hobbies.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[02:36] - “Someone once described Astro as the first web framework that’s HTML first without hating developers for not using HTML, and I always resonated with that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:12] - “I think you can’t talk about React without talking about where the web was at that point. We had a template in two different code bases, two different languages, it was a mess. And that’s the world that React came in and kind of saved us from.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:38] - “What makes (Astro) unique is our content focus. We talked about, you have one Solid component that’s a form and otherwise a mainly static site, that’s exactly where Astro shines.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://fredkschott.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/fredkschott?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/fredkschott&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fred K. Schott LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://astro.build/chat&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/astro-2/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;amp;utm_campaign=podcast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro 2.0 Details&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/introducing-content-collections/?utm_source=whiskey&amp;amp;utm_medium=link&amp;amp;utm_term=2.0+launch&amp;amp;utm_campaign=podcast&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro Content Collections&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xyenzomzw4f3a988x1za0vgz/m3hlfd6eg58csuo9lkuiiv5t/transcoded-01KECKD1KMPSNAQ74PH7423G2C-01KECKD1KMAWJXN3X5NJDAWY5X_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Features of Astro 2.0, Challenge of Material UI, and Cleanse Diets</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Astro has once again become a hot topic, capturing the attention of developers and impressing them with its user-friendly features. Astro 2.0 introduced new and improved error overlays that are functional and well-designed, making debugging more efficient for developers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Astro 2.0 is powered by the fast and efficient Vite 4, which has received high praise in the developer community. Robbie thinks Vite is the future of build tools and based on the State of JS results, many others seem to agree. Chuck shares his struggles with using material UI as a library for Tailwind, which has left him feeling frustrated. But, Robbie thinks using Tailwind UI and Headless UI makes material UI redundant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the exciting new features of Astro 2, the pros and cons of using material UI, and their cleanse diets.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:42] - A whiskey review: Very Olde St. Nick Ancient Cask 8-Year-Old Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:02] - New features in Astro 2.0.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:35] - Asto 2.0 introduces Vite 4 as its bundler.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:04] - The drawbacks of Material UI.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:05] - Chuck speaks about his cleanse diet.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:48] - Chuck’s experience at NBC Sports Premier League Fan Fest.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:37] - Robbie talks about his Ford Bronco Restomod.  
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:06] - “Everyone seems excited about building on top of Vite, and it unlocks so many things, so I think that would be a huge step forward for everyone.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:46] - “I love how many JavaScript-supporting tools are written in other languages.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:47] - “Solid is really great. If you know React, which 99% of people do, the syntax is the same.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ups.com/us/en/Home.page&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;UPS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford Bronco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pocketcasts.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pocket Casts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://restomods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Restomods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0276f28e-a63e-11ed-947e-67588d976ad5</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/wd7tb5hba3cl9vv8qnz9zcob.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astro has once again become a hot topic, capturing the attention of developers and impressing them with its user-friendly features. Astro 2.0 introduced new and improved error overlays that are functional and well-designed, making debugging more efficient for developers. </p>
<p>
Astro 2.0 is powered by the fast and efficient Vite 4, which has received high praise in the developer community. Robbie thinks Vite is the future of build tools and based on the State of JS results, many others seem to agree. Chuck shares his struggles with using material UI as a library for Tailwind, which has left him feeling frustrated. But, Robbie thinks using Tailwind UI and Headless UI makes material UI redundant.<br><br>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the exciting new features of Astro 2, the pros and cons of using material UI, and their cleanse diets.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>[01:42] - A whiskey review: Very Olde St. Nick Ancient Cask 8-Year-Old Rye Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[09:02] - New features in Astro 2.0.
</li>
  <li>[15:35] - Asto 2.0 introduces Vite 4 as its bundler.
</li>
  <li>[25:04] - The drawbacks of Material UI.
</li>
  <li>[36:05] - Chuck speaks about his cleanse diet.
</li>
  <li>[47:48] - Chuck’s experience at NBC Sports Premier League Fan Fest.
</li>
  <li>[52:37] - Robbie talks about his Ford Bronco Restomod.  
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[17:06] - “Everyone seems excited about building on top of Vite, and it unlocks so many things, so I think that would be a huge step forward for everyone.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[19:46] - “I love how many JavaScript-supporting tools are written in other languages.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter </a></p>
<p>
[30:47] - “Solid is really great. If you know React, which 99% of people do, the syntax is the same.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/american-whiskey/rye-whiskey/very-olde-st-nick-8-yr-rye/p/228466750" target="_blank">Very Olde St. Nick Ancient Cask 8-Year-Old Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.toddsnyder.com/" target="_blank">Todd Snyder</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html" target="_blank">Pappy Van Winkle</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.preservationdistillery.com/" target="_blank">Preservation Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/blog/astro-2/" target="_blank">Astro 2.0</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nullvoxpopuli.com/" target="_blank">Nullvox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rollupjs.org/" target="_blank">Rollup</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://parceljs.org/" target="_blank">Parcel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bun.sh/" target="_blank">Bun</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://deno.land/" target="_blank">Deno</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shoptalkshow.com/" target="_blank">Shop Talk Show</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tinyclouds.org/" target="_blank">Ryan Dahl</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/" target="_blank">Node</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://postcss.org/" target="_blank">Post CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mui.com/" target="_blank">Material UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindui.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://headlessui.com/" target="_blank">Headless UI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dietbet.com/" target="_blank">DietBet</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.schwarzenegger.com/" target="_blank">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/PLMorningsLiveOrlando" target="_blank">NBC Sports Premier League Fan Fest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.barclays.co.uk/" target="_blank">Barclays Bank</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://cottonbureau.com/" target="_blank">Cotton Bureau</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fedex.com/en-us/home.html" target="_blank">FedEx</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ups.com/us/en/Home.page" target="_blank">UPS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/bronco/" target="_blank">Ford Bronco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" target="_blank">Pocket Casts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://restomods.com/" target="_blank">Restomods</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Features of Astro 2.0, Challenge of Material UI, and Cleanse Diets</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wd7tb5hba3cl9vv8qnz9zcob/iq39g3574cu5m8zb5fgngjnq.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3586</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>79</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Astro has once again become a hot topic, capturing the attention of developers and impressing them with its user-friendly features. Astro 2.0 introduced new and improved error overlays that are functional and well-designed, making debugging more efficient for developers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Astro 2.0 is powered by the fast and efficient Vite 4, which has received high praise in the developer community. Robbie thinks Vite is the future of build tools and based on the State of JS results, many others seem to agree. Chuck shares his struggles with using material UI as a library for Tailwind, which has left him feeling frustrated. But, Robbie thinks using Tailwind UI and Headless UI makes material UI redundant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the exciting new features of Astro 2, the pros and cons of using material UI, and their cleanse diets.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[01:42] - A whiskey review: Very Olde St. Nick Ancient Cask 8-Year-Old Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:02] - New features in Astro 2.0.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:35] - Asto 2.0 introduces Vite 4 as its bundler.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[25:04] - The drawbacks of Material UI.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:05] - Chuck speaks about his cleanse diet.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[47:48] - Chuck’s experience at NBC Sports Premier League Fan Fest.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[52:37] - Robbie talks about his Ford Bronco Restomod.  
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:06] - “Everyone seems excited about building on top of Vite, and it unlocks so many things, so I think that would be a huge step forward for everyone.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:46] - “I love how many JavaScript-supporting tools are written in other languages.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:47] - “Solid is really great. If you know React, which 99% of people do, the syntax is the same.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/american-whiskey/rye-whiskey/very-olde-st-nick-8-yr-rye/p/228466750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Very Olde St. Nick Ancient Cask 8-Year-Old Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.toddsnyder.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Todd Snyder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.preservationdistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preservation Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/blog/astro-2/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro 2.0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nullvoxpopuli.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nullvox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rollupjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rollup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://parceljs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Parcel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bun.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://deno.land/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Deno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shoptalkshow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shop Talk Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tinyclouds.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ryan Dahl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nodejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Node&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://postcss.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Post CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Material UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://headlessui.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Headless UI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dietbet.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DietBet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.schwarzenegger.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arnold Schwarzenegger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbcsports.com/PLMorningsLiveOrlando&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NBC Sports Premier League Fan Fest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barclays.co.uk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barclays Bank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cottonbureau.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cotton Bureau&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fedex.com/en-us/home.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FedEx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ups.com/us/en/Home.page&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;UPS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford Bronco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pocketcasts.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pocket Casts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://restomods.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Restomods&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wd7tb5hba3cl9vv8qnz9zcob/j2kv6913wvrfo4nc2wmv0wa0/transcoded-01KECKE164NR28B02R53SWNXZP-01KECKE16472M02CQW6AGD4HXY_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tailwind Twitter Wars and the State of JS</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn&#39;t really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:29]&lt;strong&gt; - “&lt;/strong&gt;I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn&#39;t get any uglier than that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:44] - “Sometimes you just don&#39;t get to win all the battles. That&#39;s just part of software engineering.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there&#39;s less resistance on all fronts. Like you don&#39;t have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warnerbros.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warner Bros.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.wbkidsgo.com/en/looney-tunes&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Looney Tunes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://sourpatchkids.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sour Patch Kids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Undefeated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Willett Distillery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://samselikoff.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sam Selikoff&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.craftsman.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Craftsman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dewalt.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DeWalt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pwa.nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt PWA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thehackernews.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Hacker News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.crayon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crayon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitest.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vitest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://esbuild.github.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ESBuild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Playwright&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://pnpm.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PNPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cypress.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cypress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hipsters.tech/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hipster Ponto Tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dev.to/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dev.To&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://softskills.audio/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Soft Skills Engineering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-angular-plus-show/id1501989276&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular Plus Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520211/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Walking Dead&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031381/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gone With the Wind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/law-and-order-special-victims-unit&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Law and Order: SVU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606389/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Vow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13406094/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;White Lotus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO Max&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80189685&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Witcher&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nintendo Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playgwent.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gwent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zelda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Harry Potter: Hogwarts Legacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.universalorlando.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Universal Studios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbcsports.com/PremierLeagueMorningsLive&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EPL Fan Fest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA: World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a8b3bf1e-a0cc-11ed-80dd-b7262b07b8c0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ot1b7nnbl4jsgdf456iga89p.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals.</p>
<p>
Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn't really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend.
</li>
 <li>[11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter.
</li>
  <li>[20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey.
</li>
  <li>[44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[14:29]<strong> - “</strong>I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn't get any uglier than that.” ~ <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[19:44] - “Sometimes you just don't get to win all the battles. That's just part of software engineering.” ~ <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there's less resistance on all fronts. Like you don't have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/" target="_blank">Warner Bros.</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.wbkidsgo.com/en/looney-tunes" target="_blank">Looney Tunes</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://sourpatchkids.com/" target="_blank">Sour Patch Kids</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/" target="_blank">Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/" target="_blank">Undefeated</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Willett Distillery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://samselikoff.com/" target="_blank">Sam Selikoff</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank">Vim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.craftsman.com/" target="_blank">Craftsman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dewalt.com/" target="_blank">DeWalt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pwa.nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt PWA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thehackernews.com/" target="_blank">The Hacker News</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.crayon.com/" target="_blank">Crayon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitest.dev/" target="_blank">Vitest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://esbuild.github.io/" target="_blank">ESBuild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://playwright.dev/" target="_blank">Playwright</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://pnpm.io/" target="_blank">PNPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cypress.io/" target="_blank">Cypress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hipsters.tech/" target="_blank">Hipster Ponto Tech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dev.to/" target="_blank">Dev.To</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://softskills.audio/" target="_blank">Soft Skills Engineering</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-angular-plus-show/id1501989276" target="_blank">Angular Plus Show</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520211/" target="_blank">The Walking Dead</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031381/" target="_blank">Gone With the Wind</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbc.com/law-and-order-special-victims-unit" target="_blank">Law and Order: SVU</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606389/" target="_blank">The Vow</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13406094/" target="_blank">White Lotus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/" target="_blank">HBO Max</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80189685" target="_blank">The Witcher</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Nintendo Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playgwent.com/en" target="_blank">Gwent</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/" target="_blank">Zelda</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/" target="_blank">Harry Potter: Hogwarts Legacy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.universalorlando.com/" target="_blank">Universal Studios</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/PremierLeagueMorningsLive" target="_blank">EPL Fan Fest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" target="_blank">FIFA: World Cup Qatar 2022</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tailwind Twitter Wars and the State of JS</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ot1b7nnbl4jsgdf456iga89p/wabs4tlbjglwi2b8elql8su7.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3539</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>78</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn&#39;t really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:29]&lt;strong&gt; - “&lt;/strong&gt;I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn&#39;t get any uglier than that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:44] - “Sometimes you just don&#39;t get to win all the battles. That&#39;s just part of software engineering.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there&#39;s less resistance on all fronts. Like you don&#39;t have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ot1b7nnbl4jsgdf456iga89p/s6papjpg2x8scl9zv5q60wpp/transcoded-01KECKE0JB255GH3YGRR4CVNGD-01KECKE0JB6Y2AP6ZFNVJ5SFX1_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>CSS Trig, Cypress, and Software Testing Alternatives</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Slow page speeds and bad developer experience are huge pain points. If you can get those two things right, the developer community will likely rally behind you. CSS hit the bullseye when it introduced trigonometry functions to boost performance by avoiding Javascript. But Cypress has been a big letdown in DX.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Before introducing trig functions, CSS was pretty limited and it relied on Javascript to do all the complex styling. Since Javascript takes a significant amount of time to parse, that’s a big hit to your overall page speed. Now, CSS trig functions allow more flexibility to style pages with angles. Even Chuck, who isn’t a fan of CSS, can admit this is a big win for developers. Cypress, on the other hand, has locked some of their features behind a paywall and some developers are not happy about the change. Chuck and Robbie both find the tool too complicated and expensive compared to its alternatives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about CSS introducing trigonometry functions to avoid Javascript, why Cypress isn’t living up to their expectations, testing software alternatives, and Chuck’s new sim racing hobby.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:28] - A whiskey review: Orphan Barrel: Muckety Muck 26 Year&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:28] - CSS adds trigonometry functions.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:05] - What makes a good testing tool.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:19] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their upbringing and food.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:45] - Chuck’s sim racing experiences.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:46] - Robbie talks about selling his house.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:32] - “I tried to use Cypress, and I just gave up because it took me more than an hour to figure out, and I was just like, that&#39;s not worth my time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:43] - “Playwright looks like a pretty nice play in the space.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:00] - “As a professional developer, if a tool is helping me every day, and you say it’s going to cost me $10 a day, okay. As long as I don&#39;t have 400 tools that I need to pay $10 a month for.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">affd0c16-9c04-11ed-ad43-7f56029e9d4f</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xvqz6yvs3dj79wp3wxng0b4w.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow page speeds and bad developer experience are huge pain points. If you can get those two things right, the developer community will likely rally behind you. CSS hit the bullseye when it introduced trigonometry functions to boost performance by avoiding Javascript. But Cypress has been a big letdown in DX.</p>
<p>
Before introducing trig functions, CSS was pretty limited and it relied on Javascript to do all the complex styling. Since Javascript takes a significant amount of time to parse, that’s a big hit to your overall page speed. Now, CSS trig functions allow more flexibility to style pages with angles. Even Chuck, who isn’t a fan of CSS, can admit this is a big win for developers. Cypress, on the other hand, has locked some of their features behind a paywall and some developers are not happy about the change. Chuck and Robbie both find the tool too complicated and expensive compared to its alternatives.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about CSS introducing trigonometry functions to avoid Javascript, why Cypress isn’t living up to their expectations, testing software alternatives, and Chuck’s new sim racing hobby.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:28] - A whiskey review: Orphan Barrel: Muckety Muck 26 Year</li>
 <li>[09:28] - CSS adds trigonometry functions.</li>
  <li>[17:05] - What makes a good testing tool.</li>
  <li>[33:19] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their upbringing and food.</li>
  <li>[40:45] - Chuck’s sim racing experiences.</li>
  <li>[50:46] - Robbie talks about selling his house.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[27:32] - “I tried to use Cypress, and I just gave up because it took me more than an hour to figure out, and I was just like, that's not worth my time.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[28:43] - “Playwright looks like a pretty nice play in the space.” ~ <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[30:00] - “As a professional developer, if a tool is helping me every day, and you say it’s going to cost me $10 a day, okay. As long as I don't have 400 tools that I need to pay $10 a month for.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.orphanbarrel.com/our-whiskeys/muckety-muck-26" target="_blank">Orphan Barrel: Muckety Muck 26 Year</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ugg.com/" target="_blank">UGG</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sobe.com/" target="_blank">SoBe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en/distillery" target="_blank">The Macallan Distillary</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/" target="_blank">Total Wine &amp; More</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dewinespot.co/" target="_blank">De Wine Spot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/imac-24/" target="_blank">iMac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows?r=1" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cypress.io/" target="_blank">Cypress</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.prisma.io/" target="_blank">Prisma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mysql.com/" target="_blank">MySQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sqlite.org/index.html" target="_blank">SQLite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://playwright.dev/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://playwright.dev/" target="_blank">Playwright</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mswjs.io/" target="_blank">Mock Service Worker</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira" target="_blank">Jira</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jestjs.io/" target="_blank">Jest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.selenium.dev/documentation/webdriver/" target="_blank">Selenium Webdriver</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitest.dev/" target="_blank">Vitest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://experience.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche Experience </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/" target="_blank">GeForce Now</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/" target="_blank">EA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.iracing.com/" target="_blank">iRacing</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/" target="_blank">Steam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/" target="_blank">PlayStation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.assettocorsa.it/en/" target="_blank">Assetto Corsa</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.logitech.com/" target="_blank">Logitech</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://Tesla" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/" target="_blank">Ford Mustang Mach E</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/international/models/macan/macan-models/macan/" target="_blank">Porsche Macan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/international/models/cayenne/" target="_blank">Porsche Cayenne</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rivian.com/" target="_blank">Rivian</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-range-rover-sport/index.html" target="_blank">Range Rover Sport</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en_GB/home.html" target="_blank">Rolls Royce</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>CSS Trig, Cypress, and Software Testing Alternatives</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xvqz6yvs3dj79wp3wxng0b4w/jr1sawic3pb8ub0z0rqnl2kc.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3658</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>77</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Slow page speeds and bad developer experience are huge pain points. If you can get those two things right, the developer community will likely rally behind you. CSS hit the bullseye when it introduced trigonometry functions to boost performance by avoiding Javascript. But Cypress has been a big letdown in DX.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Before introducing trig functions, CSS was pretty limited and it relied on Javascript to do all the complex styling. Since Javascript takes a significant amount of time to parse, that’s a big hit to your overall page speed. Now, CSS trig functions allow more flexibility to style pages with angles. Even Chuck, who isn’t a fan of CSS, can admit this is a big win for developers. Cypress, on the other hand, has locked some of their features behind a paywall and some developers are not happy about the change. Chuck and Robbie both find the tool too complicated and expensive compared to its alternatives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about CSS introducing trigonometry functions to avoid Javascript, why Cypress isn’t living up to their expectations, testing software alternatives, and Chuck’s new sim racing hobby.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:28] - A whiskey review: Orphan Barrel: Muckety Muck 26 Year&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:28] - CSS adds trigonometry functions.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:05] - What makes a good testing tool.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:19] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their upbringing and food.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:45] - Chuck’s sim racing experiences.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[50:46] - Robbie talks about selling his house.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[27:32] - “I tried to use Cypress, and I just gave up because it took me more than an hour to figure out, and I was just like, that&#39;s not worth my time.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:43] - “Playwright looks like a pretty nice play in the space.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://mobile.twitter.com/charleswthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[30:00] - “As a professional developer, if a tool is helping me every day, and you say it’s going to cost me $10 a day, okay. As long as I don&#39;t have 400 tools that I need to pay $10 a month for.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.orphanbarrel.com/our-whiskeys/muckety-muck-26&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Orphan Barrel: Muckety Muck 26 Year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ugg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;UGG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sobe.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SoBe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.themacallan.com/en/distillery&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Macallan Distillary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total Wine &amp;amp; More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dewinespot.co/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;De Wine Spot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/imac-24/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iMac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows?r=1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cypress.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cypress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.prisma.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prisma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mysql.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MySQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sqlite.org/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SQLite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://playwright.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Playwright&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mswjs.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mock Service Worker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jira&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jestjs.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.selenium.dev/documentation/webdriver/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Selenium Webdriver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitest.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vitest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://experience.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche Experience &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GeForce Now&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.iracing.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iRacing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Steam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PlayStation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.assettocorsa.it/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Assetto Corsa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.logitech.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Logitech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://Tesla&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford Mustang Mach E&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/international/models/macan/macan-models/macan/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche Macan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/international/models/cayenne/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche Cayenne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rivian.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rivian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-range-rover-sport/index.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Range Rover Sport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com/en_GB/home.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rolls Royce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xvqz6yvs3dj79wp3wxng0b4w/bkqfzozilbshg0oonegvpjnv/transcoded-01KECKD276P5C85847QJPVSFSP-01KECKD276DHETKB0C6R2PB48Y_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>SQL vs NoSQL, Web Technologies, and Holiday Recap</title><description>&lt;p&gt;If you’re like Robbie and you haven’t dug into SQL since college, learning the basics of SQL vs NoSQL is a great place to start. Working with data isn’t a part of every developer’s day-to-day, but it can’t hurt to understand the differences.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NoSQL is gaining popularity among engineers because of the ease and flexibility of updating fields with new data. Some engineers prefer taking unstructured data and using a programming language they already know, like Python, to write their queries. SQL is far more structured and requires strict rules for writing queries. As with most things in tech, whether SQL is better than NoSQL depends on your business and use cases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of SQL vs NoSQL, why they like SQL databases like Prisma and Postgres, and their Christmas and New Year festivities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:56] - Chuck and Robbie wrap up the Advent of Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey Review: Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:47] - SQL versus NoSQL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:24] - Using Prisma and MySQL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:56] - Chuck and Robbie discuss the holidays and family life.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:40] - “I don&#39;t have to touch databases much, but when I do, I like that they are Postgres.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:13] - “I never really remember having fun with a project that was in SQL Server or MySQL.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:26] - “This project is using Prisma, and Prisma has nice sugar around accessing entities.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/yellowstone-select-kentucky-straight-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lime Stone Branch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disney.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mintmobile.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mint Mobile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80209096&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;My Next Guest Needs No Introduction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/80171362&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/kimkardashian/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kim Kardashian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kanyewest.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kanye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Titanic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;iPhone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://edition.cnn.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CNN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cnn.com/profiles/don-lemon-profile&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Don Lemon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cnn.com/shows/ac-360&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Anderson Cooper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/kevinhart4real/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kevin Hart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5fad60fe-935c-11ed-a8dd-071b0f7bd2df</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ln433jtj9hzc1thiz9bvlul0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’re like Robbie and you haven’t dug into SQL since college, learning the basics of SQL vs NoSQL is a great place to start. Working with data isn’t a part of every developer’s day-to-day, but it can’t hurt to understand the differences.</p>
<p>NoSQL is gaining popularity among engineers because of the ease and flexibility of updating fields with new data. Some engineers prefer taking unstructured data and using a programming language they already know, like Python, to write their queries. SQL is far more structured and requires strict rules for writing queries. As with most things in tech, whether SQL is better than NoSQL depends on your business and use cases.</p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of SQL vs NoSQL, why they like SQL databases like Prisma and Postgres, and their Christmas and New Year festivities.</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:56] - Chuck and Robbie wrap up the Advent of Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[01:35] - A whiskey Review: Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[04:47] - SQL versus NoSQL.
</li>
  <li>[13:24] - Using Prisma and MySQL.
</li>
  <li>[28:56] - Chuck and Robbie discuss the holidays and family life.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[16:40] - “I don't have to touch databases much, but when I do, I like that they are Postgres.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[17:13] - “I never really remember having fun with a project that was in SQL Server or MySQL.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank"> Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[22:26] - “This project is using Prisma, and Prisma has nice sugar around accessing entities.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/yellowstone-select-kentucky-straight-bourbon/" target="_blank">Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://limestonebranch.com/" target="_blank">Lime Stone Branch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/" target="_blank">Buffalo Trace</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mysql.com/" target="_blank">MySQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/APIReference/Welcome.html" target="_blank">DynamoDB</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.postgresql.org/" target="_blank">PostgresSQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.prisma.io/" target="_blank">Prisma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://postgis.net/" target="_blank">PostGIS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">Supabase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://eggerapps.at/postico/" target="_blank">Postico</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sql-server/sql-server-downloads" target="_blank">SQL Server</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/" target="_blank">Ember Data</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">SolidJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://start.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">SolidStart</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/mjackson?lang=en" target="_blank">Michael Jackson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rokaakor.com/" target="_blank">Roka Akor</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pepsi.com/" target="_blank">Pepsi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://go.tlc.com/show/90-day-fiance-tlc-atve-us" target="_blank">90-Day Finance</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9253284/" target="_blank">Andor</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/" target="_blank">Peaky Blinders</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/" target="_blank">Spirited</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1485796/" target="_blank">The Greatest Showman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116242/" target="_blank">Everyone Says I Love You</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000095/" target="_blank">Woody Allen</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001570/" target="_blank">Edward Norton</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000106/" target="_blank">Drew Barrymore</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hamiltonmusical.com/new-york/home/" target="_blank">Hamilton</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2058092/" target="_blank">Book of Mormon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5463162/" target="_blank">Deadpool</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005351/" target="_blank">Ryan Reynolds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14674086/" target="_blank">Welcome to Wrexham</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mintmobile.com/" target="_blank">Mint Mobile</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80209096" target="_blank">My Next Guest Needs No Introduction</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80171362" target="_blank">Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kimkardashian/?hl=en" target="_blank">Kim Kardashian</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kanyewest.com/" target="_blank">Kanye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)" target="_blank">Titanic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1856010/" target="_blank">House of Cards</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jamesdean.com/" target="_blank">James Dean</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sharpie.com/" target="_blank">Sharpie</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/middle-east/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://edition.cnn.com/" target="_blank">CNN</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/profiles/don-lemon-profile" target="_blank">Don Lemon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cnn.com/shows/ac-360" target="_blank">Anderson Cooper</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kevinhart4real/?hl=en" target="_blank">Kevin Hart</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>SQL vs NoSQL, Web Technologies, and Holiday Recap</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ln433jtj9hzc1thiz9bvlul0/dr99cfmn9zlolpojpp66khp6.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3280</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>76</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;If you’re like Robbie and you haven’t dug into SQL since college, learning the basics of SQL vs NoSQL is a great place to start. Working with data isn’t a part of every developer’s day-to-day, but it can’t hurt to understand the differences.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NoSQL is gaining popularity among engineers because of the ease and flexibility of updating fields with new data. Some engineers prefer taking unstructured data and using a programming language they already know, like Python, to write their queries. SQL is far more structured and requires strict rules for writing queries. As with most things in tech, whether SQL is better than NoSQL depends on your business and use cases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the pros and cons of SQL vs NoSQL, why they like SQL databases like Prisma and Postgres, and their Christmas and New Year festivities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:56] - Chuck and Robbie wrap up the Advent of Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey Review: Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:47] - SQL versus NoSQL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:24] - Using Prisma and MySQL.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:56] - Chuck and Robbie discuss the holidays and family life.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:40] - “I don&#39;t have to touch databases much, but when I do, I like that they are Postgres.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:13] - “I never really remember having fun with a project that was in SQL Server or MySQL.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:26] - “This project is using Prisma, and Prisma has nice sugar around accessing entities.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/spirits/yellowstone-select-kentucky-straight-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yellowstone Select Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://limestonebranch.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lime Stone Branch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Buffalo Trace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ln433jtj9hzc1thiz9bvlul0/bbappq1xykxzsdylirdkznde/transcoded-01KECKDYS2H2SW6FJY5865B9PP-01KECKDYS2GZF7TE32AVE5ACVQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Case for Adopting TypeScript with Josh Goldberg</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Many people dream about being their own boss, but there’s no clear rulebook that outlines how to get there. While self-employment seems glorious to some, it’s not for everyone. How does someone know when they are ready to take the step into the unknown, and how do they know if that choice will suit them?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Josh Goldberg, Open Source Developer and author of &lt;em&gt;Learning TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;, built much of his coding career at Microsoft and Codecademy before taking the leap into full-time open source tooling in January 2022. Since then, he has published a book and expanded his networking by speaking at over 30 conferences, but he still has time to discuss coding languages and hiking in Arizona over a glass of whiskey. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about Typescript adoption, becoming a full-time open source developer, and the power of expanding your professional network.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:48] - An intro to Josh Goldberg.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[2:28] - A whiskey review - Barrell Armida Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:01] - Chuck, Robbie, and Josh’s whiskey rating.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:27] - Josh’s latest book,&lt;em&gt; Learning TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:27] - GraphQL vs. TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:40] - Josh’s journey into TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:18] - Josh’s thoughts on adding a type system directly to JavaScript. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:11] - The case for TypeScript adoption.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - TypeScript conversion strategies and solutions from Codecademy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:43] -  Josh’s transition to full-time open source developer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:27] - Josh’s advice for aspiring full-time open source developers. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:10] - Josh’s experience speaking at conferences as a developer advocate.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:50] - Josh’s closing remarks. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:33] - “You have to iterate in public and learn from real world usage in order to get things right.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:14] - “If you’re trying to convince people to switch to TypeScript, you convince them based on the pain points they have and how TypeScript fits into them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[42:27] - “There are a lot of people who are interested in going full-time open source. It’s a great place to be, but I wouldn’t recommend going into this without a lot of prior work. To build up your network, to get a full-time job in a development team that gives you mentorship and management that helps you grow that way so that you are well equipped to go into open source first.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#contact&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learningtypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learning TypeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">988f7ea6-903d-11ed-a343-abb24d70dd9a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mcv89voz8r7nnp51cwmxdslm.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people dream about being their own boss, but there’s no clear rulebook that outlines how to get there. While self-employment seems glorious to some, it’s not for everyone. How does someone know when they are ready to take the step into the unknown, and how do they know if that choice will suit them?</p>
<p>
Josh Goldberg, Open Source Developer and author of <em>Learning TypeScript</em>, built much of his coding career at Microsoft and Codecademy before taking the leap into full-time open source tooling in January 2022. Since then, he has published a book and expanded his networking by speaking at over 30 conferences, but he still has time to discuss coding languages and hiking in Arizona over a glass of whiskey. <br><br>In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about Typescript adoption, becoming a full-time open source developer, and the power of expanding your professional network.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:48] - An intro to Josh Goldberg.
</li>
 <li>[2:28] - A whiskey review - Barrell Armida Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[07:01] - Chuck, Robbie, and Josh’s whiskey rating.
</li>
  <li>[12:27] - Josh’s latest book,<em> Learning TypeScript</em>.
</li>
  <li>[21:27] - GraphQL vs. TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[23:40] - Josh’s journey into TypeScript.
</li>
  <li>[27:18] - Josh’s thoughts on adding a type system directly to JavaScript. 
</li>
  <li>[30:11] - The case for TypeScript adoption.
</li>
  <li>[34:20] - TypeScript conversion strategies and solutions from Codecademy.
</li>
  <li>[39:43] -  Josh’s transition to full-time open source developer.
</li>
  <li>[42:27] - Josh’s advice for aspiring full-time open source developers. 
</li>
  <li>[45:10] - Josh’s experience speaking at conferences as a developer advocate.
</li>
  <li>[57:50] - Josh’s closing remarks. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[29:33] - “You have to iterate in public and learn from real world usage in order to get things right.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg</a></p>
<p>
[31:14] - “If you’re trying to convince people to switch to TypeScript, you convince them based on the pain points they have and how TypeScript fits into them.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg</a></p>
<p>
[42:27] - “There are a lot of people who are interested in going full-time open source. It’s a great place to be, but I wouldn’t recommend going into this without a lot of prior work. To build up your network, to get a full-time job in a development team that gives you mentorship and management that helps you grow that way so that you are well equipped to go into open source first.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg on LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#contact" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg Website</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://blog.joshuakgoldberg.com/" target="_blank">Josh Goldberg Blog</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.learningtypescript.com/" target="_blank">Learning TypeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rpi.edu/" target="_blank">Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/armida" target="_blank">Barrell Armida Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">TypeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.javascript.com/" target="_blank">JavaScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B" target="_blank">C++</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/business/teams.html?sdid=B16P3W9X&amp;mv=search&amp;ef_id=Cj0KCQiAwJWdBhCYARIsAJc4idAbOlz7cqKPR3p5fZdfzDgNuKO-HMdUAWHQsX8iSnO-j66UHN01NF8aAph5EALw_wcB:G:s&amp;s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!566814725481!e!!g!!photoshop!15482932269!136265040448" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML" target="_blank">HTML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://flow.org/" target="_blank">Flow</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://about.meta.com/" target="_blank">Meta</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://coffeescript.org/" target="_blank">CoffeeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.codecademy.com/" target="_blank">Codecademy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://opensource.com/article/21/6/what-config-files" target="_blank">Config file</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://opensource.com/" target="_blank">Opensource</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vtest.com/" target="_blank">VTEST</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.halowaypoint.com/" target="_blank">Halo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Case for Adopting TypeScript with Josh Goldberg</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mcv89voz8r7nnp51cwmxdslm/kf88pg5ip9iyn3wo0ksl6m4q.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3622</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>75</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Many people dream about being their own boss, but there’s no clear rulebook that outlines how to get there. While self-employment seems glorious to some, it’s not for everyone. How does someone know when they are ready to take the step into the unknown, and how do they know if that choice will suit them?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Josh Goldberg, Open Source Developer and author of &lt;em&gt;Learning TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;, built much of his coding career at Microsoft and Codecademy before taking the leap into full-time open source tooling in January 2022. Since then, he has published a book and expanded his networking by speaking at over 30 conferences, but he still has time to discuss coding languages and hiking in Arizona over a glass of whiskey. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about Typescript adoption, becoming a full-time open source developer, and the power of expanding your professional network.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:48] - An intro to Josh Goldberg.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[2:28] - A whiskey review - Barrell Armida Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:01] - Chuck, Robbie, and Josh’s whiskey rating.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[12:27] - Josh’s latest book,&lt;em&gt; Learning TypeScript&lt;/em&gt;.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:27] - GraphQL vs. TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:40] - Josh’s journey into TypeScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[27:18] - Josh’s thoughts on adding a type system directly to JavaScript. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:11] - The case for TypeScript adoption.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:20] - TypeScript conversion strategies and solutions from Codecademy.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:43] -  Josh’s transition to full-time open source developer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:27] - Josh’s advice for aspiring full-time open source developers. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:10] - Josh’s experience speaking at conferences as a developer advocate.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[57:50] - Josh’s closing remarks. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[29:33] - “You have to iterate in public and learn from real world usage in order to get things right.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:14] - “If you’re trying to convince people to switch to TypeScript, you convince them based on the pain points they have and how TypeScript fits into them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[42:27] - “There are a lot of people who are interested in going full-time open source. It’s a great place to be, but I wouldn’t recommend going into this without a lot of prior work. To build up your network, to get a full-time job in a development team that gives you mentorship and management that helps you grow that way so that you are well equipped to go into open source first.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakgoldbergcodes/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.joshuakgoldberg.com/#contact&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blog.joshuakgoldberg.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Goldberg Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.learningtypescript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Learning TypeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rpi.edu/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/armida&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Armida Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TypeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;C++&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/business/teams.html?sdid=B16P3W9X&amp;amp;mv=search&amp;amp;ef_id=Cj0KCQiAwJWdBhCYARIsAJc4idAbOlz7cqKPR3p5fZdfzDgNuKO-HMdUAWHQsX8iSnO-j66UHN01NF8aAph5EALw_wcB:G:s&amp;amp;s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!566814725481!e!!g!!photoshop!15482932269!136265040448&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HTML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flow.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://about.meta.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Meta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coffeescript.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CoffeeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.codecademy.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Codecademy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensource.com/article/21/6/what-config-files&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Config file&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://opensource.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Opensource&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vtest.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VTEST&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.halowaypoint.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Halo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mcv89voz8r7nnp51cwmxdslm/rm255uyu01jxg9nqk0cafyxn/transcoded-01KECKE175B379P45N0ZMM8M7X-01KECKE175KHFTVQ0BWGZGZEMQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Bringing Designers and Developers Together with Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Working together in a professional environment is easier said than done, especially when teams have conflicting workflows, priorities, and skill sets. Designers are all too familiar with having their work feel like a second priority to developers. Is there a way that designers and developers can collaborate successfully without sacrificing their individual needs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Enter Penpot, the first Open Source design and prototyping platform for cross-domain teams. Penpot was developed by Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz, CEO and Co-Founder of Kaleidos, Taiga and Penpot, to bring collaboration between designers and developers to the next level. Penpot inspires designers to become comfortable using open source and allows developers to become excited about the design process. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Pablo talks to Chuck and Robbie about how Penpot differs from its primary competitor, Figma, and why designers and developers love their platform.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:36] - An intro to Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] -  A whiskey review - Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:31] - Chuck, Robbie, and Pablo’s whiskey ranking.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:47] - What Penpot is and how it compares to Figma.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:50] - Adobe’s defensive acquisition of Figma. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:54] - Why Pablo is excited about Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:37] - How Penpot brings together designers and developers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:30] - Two top priority feature requests for Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:23] - Use cases for Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:31] - Why Pablo got expelled.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:34] - Pablo’s diverse hobbies - from mead brewing to archery.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:27] - “We don’t just want to accelerate design into code, but also coding to design.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:18] - “First, we need to make sure that designers really appreciate what we’re doing. Whenever they first encounter Penpot, they see it, they feel it. It’s meant for them. Not as a gift from engineers.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:54] - “Design is more important than ever. Design is eating software faster than software is eating the world. Software is a key differentiator, a key element in the critical palette of innovation. Design is key, and yet it remains outside the software building pipeline.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/diacritica&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elenya.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&#39;s website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kaleidos.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kaleidos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://penpot.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Penpot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taiga.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taiga&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adobe.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ucm.es/english&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Universidad Complutense de Madrid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(film_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Lord of the Rings Trilogy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(film_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Hobbit Film Series&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elon Musk on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f575e3b0-8ad6-11ed-842c-9bc9d549ae75</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/wflxokma7rvu0rhbpnzg5vgw.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working together in a professional environment is easier said than done, especially when teams have conflicting workflows, priorities, and skill sets. Designers are all too familiar with having their work feel like a second priority to developers. Is there a way that designers and developers can collaborate successfully without sacrificing their individual needs?</p>
<p>
Enter Penpot, the first Open Source design and prototyping platform for cross-domain teams. Penpot was developed by Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz, CEO and Co-Founder of Kaleidos, Taiga and Penpot, to bring collaboration between designers and developers to the next level. Penpot inspires designers to become comfortable using open source and allows developers to become excited about the design process. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Pablo talks to Chuck and Robbie about how Penpot differs from its primary competitor, Figma, and why designers and developers love their platform.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:36] - An intro to Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz.
</li>
  <li>[02:38] -  A whiskey review - Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye.
</li>
  <li>[05:31] - Chuck, Robbie, and Pablo’s whiskey ranking.
</li>
  <li>[07:47] - What Penpot is and how it compares to Figma.
</li>
  <li>[15:50] - Adobe’s defensive acquisition of Figma. 
</li>
  <li>[24:54] - Why Pablo is excited about Penpot.
</li>
  <li>[29:37] - How Penpot brings together designers and developers.
</li>
  <li>[34:30] - Two top priority feature requests for Penpot.
</li>
  <li>[39:23] - Use cases for Penpot.
</li>
  <li>[44:31] - Why Pablo got expelled.
</li>
  <li>[48:34] - Pablo’s diverse hobbies - from mead brewing to archery.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[26:27] - “We don’t just want to accelerate design into code, but also coding to design.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz</a></p>
<p>
[31:18] - “First, we need to make sure that designers really appreciate what we’re doing. Whenever they first encounter Penpot, they see it, they feel it. It’s meant for them. Not as a gift from engineers.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz</a></p>
<p>
[36:54] - “Design is more important than ever. Design is eating software faster than software is eating the world. Software is a key differentiator, a key element in the critical palette of innovation. Design is key, and yet it remains outside the software building pipeline.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/diacritica" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elenya.net/" target="_blank">Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz's website</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-rye/" target="_blank">Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kaleidos.net/" target="_blank">Kaleidos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://penpot.app/" target="_blank">Penpot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.taiga.io/" target="_blank">Taiga</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank">Figma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://adobe.com" target="_blank">Adobe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ucm.es/english" target="_blank">Universidad Complutense de Madrid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(film_series)" target="_blank">The Lord of the Rings Trilogy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power" target="_blank">The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(film_series)" target="_blank">The Hobbit Film Series</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/?lang=en" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Elon Musk on Twitter</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Bringing Designers and Developers Together with Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wflxokma7rvu0rhbpnzg5vgw/nlum5pbemhohpuky7gj2lgh3.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3768</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>74</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Working together in a professional environment is easier said than done, especially when teams have conflicting workflows, priorities, and skill sets. Designers are all too familiar with having their work feel like a second priority to developers. Is there a way that designers and developers can collaborate successfully without sacrificing their individual needs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Enter Penpot, the first Open Source design and prototyping platform for cross-domain teams. Penpot was developed by Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz, CEO and Co-Founder of Kaleidos, Taiga and Penpot, to bring collaboration between designers and developers to the next level. Penpot inspires designers to become comfortable using open source and allows developers to become excited about the design process. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Pablo talks to Chuck and Robbie about how Penpot differs from its primary competitor, Figma, and why designers and developers love their platform.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:36] - An intro to Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:38] -  A whiskey review - Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:31] - Chuck, Robbie, and Pablo’s whiskey ranking.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:47] - What Penpot is and how it compares to Figma.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:50] - Adobe’s defensive acquisition of Figma. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:54] - Why Pablo is excited about Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:37] - How Penpot brings together designers and developers.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:30] - Two top priority feature requests for Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:23] - Use cases for Penpot.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[44:31] - Why Pablo got expelled.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:34] - Pablo’s diverse hobbies - from mead brewing to archery.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:27] - “We don’t just want to accelerate design into code, but also coding to design.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[31:18] - “First, we need to make sure that designers really appreciate what we’re doing. Whenever they first encounter Penpot, they see it, they feel it. It’s meant for them. Not as a gift from engineers.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[36:54] - “Design is more important than ever. Design is eating software faster than software is eating the world. Software is a key differentiator, a key element in the critical palette of innovation. Design is key, and yet it remains outside the software building pipeline.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/pruizmuzquiz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/diacritica&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elenya.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pablo Ruiz-Múzquiz&#39;s website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Willet Family Estate Bottled Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kaleidos.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kaleidos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://penpot.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Penpot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.taiga.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taiga&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adobe.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ucm.es/english&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Universidad Complutense de Madrid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(film_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Lord of the Rings Trilogy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Rings_of_Power&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_(film_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Hobbit Film Series&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elon Musk on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/wflxokma7rvu0rhbpnzg5vgw/n1k3ceidpbcohg7atyiox06m/transcoded-01KECKE1X41CWBVMM8YJ94HYWX-01KECKE1X4G1S9C5908AGDHXP5_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Treats, Final Holiday Trivia, and Quantum Computing</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It’s the Advent of Whiskey finale, and Chuck and Robbie keep it casual with more holiday treats, trivia, and traditions. But it wouldn’t be Whiskey Web and Whatnot without a little tech. Physicists are doing mindbending things with tech and in case you didn’t already know it, computers can create wormholes now. &lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their favorite holiday treats, holiday trivia, and creating wormholes using quantum computers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:06] - Number 22 Whiskey - Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:49] - Number 23 Whiskey - Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:20] - Number 24 Whiskey - Knappogue Castle 12-Year-Old Bourbon Cask Matured Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[15:26] - Chuck and Robbie’s favorite holiday treats.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:45] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:10] - The quantum computer that mimics real-world physics.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:28] - “There’s something special about a 12-year-old single malt whiskey. It’s like a premium steak house that ages their wagyu rib eye for six weeks.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:01] - “I think it would be really cool to have an automated Taco Bell. You go up and press a button, and it gives you the food, and no one had to do anything.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://keepersheartwhiskey.com/whiskey/irish-american/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Snatch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peaky Blinder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tony Hawk Pro Skater&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sky Rim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/whiskies/index.php?id=3&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mojombo/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tom Preston Warner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.knappoguewhiskey.com/product/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Knappogue Castle 12 Year Old Bourbon Cask Matured &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349118-a-quantum-computer-has-simulated-a-wormhole-for-the-first-time/#:~:text=Maria%20Spiropulu%20at%20the%20California,black%20holes%20at%20either%20end.&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;A Quantum Computer has Simulated a Wormhole for the First Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Trek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055683/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jetsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chat GPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://athleticgreens.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Athletic Greens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">54065bea-7cc1-11ed-8738-f7d9cb63bddc</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tk8kbgmxa3z7b9328avf1qrq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the Advent of Whiskey finale, and Chuck and Robbie keep it casual with more holiday treats, trivia, and traditions. But it wouldn’t be Whiskey Web and Whatnot without a little tech. Physicists are doing mindbending things with tech and in case you didn’t already know it, computers can create wormholes now. <br>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their favorite holiday treats, holiday trivia, and creating wormholes using quantum computers. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:06] - Number 22 Whiskey - Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[05:49] - Number 23 Whiskey - Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch.
</li>
 <li>[09:20] - Number 24 Whiskey - Knappogue Castle 12-Year-Old Bourbon Cask Matured Whisky.
</li>
 <li>[15:26] - Chuck and Robbie’s favorite holiday treats.
</li>
  <li>[18:45] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
  <li>[21:10] - The quantum computer that mimics real-world physics.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[12:28] - “There’s something special about a 12-year-old single malt whiskey. It’s like a premium steak house that ages their wagyu rib eye for six weeks.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[25:01] - “I think it would be really cool to have an automated Taco Bell. You go up and press a button, and it gives you the food, and no one had to do anything.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank"> Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://keepersheartwhiskey.com/whiskey/irish-american/" target="_blank">Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/" target="_blank">Snatch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/" target="_blank">Peaky Blinder</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/" target="_blank">Tony Hawk Pro Skater</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ea.com/fifa" target="_blank">FIFA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim" target="_blank">Sky Rim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">Breath of the Wild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/whiskies/index.php?id=3" target="_blank">Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/mojombo/" target="_blank">Tom Preston Warner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.knappoguewhiskey.com/product/" target="_blank">Knappogue Castle 12 Year Old Bourbon Cask Matured </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349118-a-quantum-computer-has-simulated-a-wormhole-for-the-first-time/#:~:text=Maria%20Spiropulu%20at%20the%20California,black%20holes%20at%20either%20end." target="_blank">A Quantum Computer has Simulated a Wormhole for the First Time</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/" target="_blank">Star Trek</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055683/" target="_blank">The Jetsons</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">Chat GPT</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank">Taco Bell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://athleticgreens.com/en" target="_blank">Athletic Greens</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Treats, Final Holiday Trivia, and Quantum Computing</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tk8kbgmxa3z7b9328avf1qrq/kak6fhcl7yxyh7plrc9viakg.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1752</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>73</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It’s the Advent of Whiskey finale, and Chuck and Robbie keep it casual with more holiday treats, trivia, and traditions. But it wouldn’t be Whiskey Web and Whatnot without a little tech. Physicists are doing mindbending things with tech and in case you didn’t already know it, computers can create wormholes now. &lt;br&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their favorite holiday treats, holiday trivia, and creating wormholes using quantum computers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:06] - Number 22 Whiskey - Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:49] - Number 23 Whiskey - Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[09:20] - Number 24 Whiskey - Knappogue Castle 12-Year-Old Bourbon Cask Matured Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[15:26] - Chuck and Robbie’s favorite holiday treats.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:45] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:10] - The quantum computer that mimics real-world physics.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:28] - “There’s something special about a 12-year-old single malt whiskey. It’s like a premium steak house that ages their wagyu rib eye for six weeks.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:01] - “I think it would be really cool to have an automated Taco Bell. You go up and press a button, and it gives you the food, and no one had to do anything.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://keepersheartwhiskey.com/whiskey/irish-american/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Keeper’s Heart Irish + America Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Snatch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peaky Blinder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tony Hawk Pro Skater&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ea.com/fifa&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sky Rim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/whiskies/index.php?id=3&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Compass Box Oak Cross Blended Malt Scotch Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/mojombo/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tom Preston Warner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.knappoguewhiskey.com/product/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Knappogue Castle 12 Year Old Bourbon Cask Matured &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349118-a-quantum-computer-has-simulated-a-wormhole-for-the-first-time/#:~:text=Maria%20Spiropulu%20at%20the%20California,black%20holes%20at%20either%20end.&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;A Quantum Computer has Simulated a Wormhole for the First Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Trek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055683/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jetsons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chat.openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chat GPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tacobell.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Taco Bell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://athleticgreens.com/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Athletic Greens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tk8kbgmxa3z7b9328avf1qrq/lgt1psr1mc4uzsx9azp10yl2/transcoded-01KECKDDB57CKBW4Z27WT5XYND-01KECKDDB59NC71A81FEW4VZK6_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia Continued and Web Developer Tools</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Every developer has a tech stack that they swear by. The perfect stack is usually a combination of convenience and productivity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie released a blog on Ship Shape featuring “Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023”. The list features a browser that’s perfect for work and personal use, two terminals, a collaborative clutter-free code editor, and a simplified version of Git. Even if you have old favorites, it can’t hurt to switch them up and test out some of the new tools powering the developer community. They’re usually faster and a lot easier than old-school tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie continue to talk about holiday trivia and the top five best web developer tools mentioned in the latest Ship Shape blog post. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:54] - Number 20 Whiskey - Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:32] - Number 21 Whiskey - Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:17] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:39] - Top five web developer tools.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:35] - “You kinda get comfortable with your tools and set in your ways. I hardly ever changed my tools, and I want to be better about just trying other stuff.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:32] - “ I feel like VS Code is busy. It’s really busy.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starward.com.au/products/nova&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yellowrosedistilling.com/products/outlaw-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/blog/top-five-web-developer-tools/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thebrowser.company/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Fidelity&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brave.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brave&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://desktop.github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fig.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://clickup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Click Up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pulp Fiction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">55d60494-7cc0-11ed-8835-ab33e99a69e6</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/azhat4dkell9dbeiigwjhcli.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every developer has a tech stack that they swear by. The perfect stack is usually a combination of convenience and productivity.</p>
<p>
Robbie released a blog on Ship Shape featuring “Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023”. The list features a browser that’s perfect for work and personal use, two terminals, a collaborative clutter-free code editor, and a simplified version of Git. Even if you have old favorites, it can’t hurt to switch them up and test out some of the new tools powering the developer community. They’re usually faster and a lot easier than old-school tools.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie continue to talk about holiday trivia and the top five best web developer tools mentioned in the latest Ship Shape blog post. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:54] - Number 20 Whiskey - Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky.
</li>
 <li>[04:32] - Number 21 Whiskey - Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[07:17] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
 <li>[11:39] - Top five web developer tools.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:35] - “You kinda get comfortable with your tools and set in your ways. I hardly ever changed my tools, and I want to be better about just trying other stuff.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[22:32] - “ I feel like VS Code is busy. It’s really busy.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter </a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://starward.com.au/products/nova" target="_blank">Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yellowrosedistilling.com/products/outlaw-bourbon/" target="_blank">Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/blog/top-five-web-developer-tools/" target="_blank">Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thebrowser.company/" target="_blank">Arc</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/" target="_blank">High Fidelity</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://brave.com/" target="_blank">Brave</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.vim.org/" target="_blank">Vim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://zed.dev/" target="_blank">Zed</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">VS Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.warp.dev/" target="_blank">Warp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rust-lang.org/" target="_blank">Rust</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://desktop.github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub Desktop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fig.io/" target="_blank">Fig</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://clickup.com/" target="_blank">Click Up</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/" target="_blank">Pulp Fiction</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia Continued and Web Developer Tools</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/azhat4dkell9dbeiigwjhcli/a9qxzfs4jvx367ef3xii7ebt.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1882</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>72</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Every developer has a tech stack that they swear by. The perfect stack is usually a combination of convenience and productivity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie released a blog on Ship Shape featuring “Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023”. The list features a browser that’s perfect for work and personal use, two terminals, a collaborative clutter-free code editor, and a simplified version of Git. Even if you have old favorites, it can’t hurt to switch them up and test out some of the new tools powering the developer community. They’re usually faster and a lot easier than old-school tools.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie continue to talk about holiday trivia and the top five best web developer tools mentioned in the latest Ship Shape blog post. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:54] - Number 20 Whiskey - Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:32] - Number 21 Whiskey - Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[07:17] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[11:39] - Top five web developer tools.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:35] - “You kinda get comfortable with your tools and set in your ways. I hardly ever changed my tools, and I want to be better about just trying other stuff.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:32] - “ I feel like VS Code is busy. It’s really busy.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://starward.com.au/products/nova&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starward Nova Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yellowrosedistilling.com/products/outlaw-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Yellow Rose Distilling Outlaw Bourbon Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/blog/top-five-web-developer-tools/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Top 5 Web Developer Tools for 2023&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thebrowser.company/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Arc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;High Fidelity&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brave.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brave&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vim.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://zed.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Zed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Warp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rust-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rust&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://desktop.github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub Desktop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fig.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://clickup.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Click Up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pulp Fiction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/azhat4dkell9dbeiigwjhcli/pu0x9fguuuph6sryi3b5q84k/transcoded-01KECKD15V2Y7FGS94MHVAN6YF-01KECKD15VKHA9GP5MY224WFNM_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: More Holiday Trivia and Tech Interviews</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Robbie and Chuck think the process is rigged. Memorizing algorithms and solving problems in 30 minutes isn’t good enough to judge someone’s capabilities and decide whether they can be trusted for a job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Many great developers crack under the pressure of interviews but that doesn’t mean they’re not good at what they do. The interview process is just a formality to verify someone’s identity, it shouldn’t be used to drill developers and set them up for failure. Companies are better off looking at a developer’s open-source and public projects to see what they have to offer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about Holiday Trivia and the major downside with algorithms in tech interviews.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Number 17 Whiskey: Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:40] - Number 18 Whiskey: Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:44] - Number 19 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:54] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:45] - Fixing a broken interview system.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:44] - “I’m a passenger on this journey, and I want to have experiences in that journey.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:28] - “You’re a JavaScript developer. You’re a react developer. You’re a whatever. Those paradigms are completely made up in every single company.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walshwhiskey.com/our-whiskeys/our-whiskeys-writers-tears/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/our-whiskey/jameson-15-year-old-single-pot-still/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson 15&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redemptionwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redemption Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.lawswhiskeyhouse.com/products/san-luis-valley-straight-rye-750-ml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/24587/togouchi-premium-blended-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Togouchi Premium Blend Japnese Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskysaga.com/blog/the-kurayoshi-pure-malt-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Die Hard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Home Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Trafford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">bb5dccc8-7c86-11ed-96a4-0bace93bfeb1</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/r2zv4ac93zvmoxczrk0jr1hd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie and Chuck think the process is rigged. Memorizing algorithms and solving problems in 30 minutes isn’t good enough to judge someone’s capabilities and decide whether they can be trusted for a job.</p>
<p>
Many great developers crack under the pressure of interviews but that doesn’t mean they’re not good at what they do. The interview process is just a formality to verify someone’s identity, it shouldn’t be used to drill developers and set them up for failure. Companies are better off looking at a developer’s open-source and public projects to see what they have to offer.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about Holiday Trivia and the major downside with algorithms in tech interviews.<br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:37] - Number 17 Whiskey: Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[06:40] - Number 18 Whiskey: Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye.
</li>
 <li>[10:44] - Number 19 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[13:54] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
  <li>[22:45] - Fixing a broken interview system.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:44] - “I’m a passenger on this journey, and I want to have experiences in that journey.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[26:28] - “You’re a JavaScript developer. You’re a react developer. You’re a whatever. Those paradigms are completely made up in every single company.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.walshwhiskey.com/our-whiskeys/our-whiskeys-writers-tears/" target="_blank">Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/our-whiskey/jameson-15-year-old-single-pot-still/" target="_blank">Jameson 15</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.redemptionwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Redemption Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shop.lawswhiskeyhouse.com/products/san-luis-valley-straight-rye-750-ml" target="_blank">Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/24587/togouchi-premium-blended-whisky" target="_blank">Togouchi Premium Blend Japnese Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.whiskysaga.com/blog/the-kurayoshi-pure-malt-whisky" target="_blank">Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/" target="_blank">Die Hard</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/" target="_blank">Home Alone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us" target="_blank">Lego</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford" target="_blank">Old Trafford</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/" target="_blank">Manchester United</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: More Holiday Trivia and Tech Interviews</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r2zv4ac93zvmoxczrk0jr1hd/ddceh2t4bwfruoek50kgc1ua.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1878</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>71</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Robbie and Chuck think the process is rigged. Memorizing algorithms and solving problems in 30 minutes isn’t good enough to judge someone’s capabilities and decide whether they can be trusted for a job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Many great developers crack under the pressure of interviews but that doesn’t mean they’re not good at what they do. The interview process is just a formality to verify someone’s identity, it shouldn’t be used to drill developers and set them up for failure. Companies are better off looking at a developer’s open-source and public projects to see what they have to offer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about Holiday Trivia and the major downside with algorithms in tech interviews.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Number 17 Whiskey: Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:40] - Number 18 Whiskey: Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:44] - Number 19 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:54] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[22:45] - Fixing a broken interview system.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:44] - “I’m a passenger on this journey, and I want to have experiences in that journey.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[26:28] - “You’re a JavaScript developer. You’re a react developer. You’re a whatever. Those paradigms are completely made up in every single company.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walshwhiskey.com/our-whiskeys/our-whiskeys-writers-tears/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Writer’s Tears Copper Pot Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en/our-whiskey/jameson-15-year-old-single-pot-still/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson 15&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redemptionwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redemption Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shop.lawswhiskeyhouse.com/products/san-luis-valley-straight-rye-750-ml&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lawes San Luis Valley Straight Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/24587/togouchi-premium-blended-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Togouchi Premium Blend Japnese Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskysaga.com/blog/the-kurayoshi-pure-malt-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kurayoshi Pure Malt Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Die Hard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Home Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Trafford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r2zv4ac93zvmoxczrk0jr1hd/bdvwbl2hcjoec9vpk8dqt9kd/transcoded-01KECKD4PNCNPSRE0JKSG3TAW4-01KECKD4PNC5NSNM7MR5TFWEV0_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia, Food History, and YAML</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Is YAML a programming language? According to Robbie and Chuck, it’s not. And even though you could code in YAML and add functions to it, doesn’t mean you should. Some things are better left uncomplicated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
YAML is a data structuring format, and that’s what it’s good at. While some might disagree, Chuck and Robbie believe functions are one of the key elements of programming languages and YAML doesn’t have that baked in. If you’re looking for functions, it’s better to stick to a programming language that has what you need. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about holiday trivia, the history behind Pearl Milling Company’s rebrand, and the pros and cons of coding in YAML.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Number 15 Whiskey - Blackened Flagship.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:47] - Number 16 Whiskey - Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:27] - The story of the Pearl Milling Company.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:07] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:40] - Best use case for YAML.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:45] - “You think of CSV as a data structuring format, I think of JSON as a more data structuring format, and I think of YAML as an even more robust, diverse data structure format.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:07] - “Programming languages are good at executing things, and I would think that YAML is not a programming language in the classic sense.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackenedwhiskey.com/products/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Blackened Flagship Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.metallica.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Metallica &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amrutdistilleries.com/amrut-indian-single-malt-whisky.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pearlmillingcompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Pearl Milling Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bensoriginal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ben’s Original Rice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">9e8ab4cc-7c85-11ed-9ec5-7700deb87de3</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/w2e9q1wtmp47nxixum98fhog.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is YAML a programming language? According to Robbie and Chuck, it’s not. And even though you could code in YAML and add functions to it, doesn’t mean you should. Some things are better left uncomplicated.</p>
<p>
YAML is a data structuring format, and that’s what it’s good at. While some might disagree, Chuck and Robbie believe functions are one of the key elements of programming languages and YAML doesn’t have that baked in. If you’re looking for functions, it’s better to stick to a programming language that has what you need. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about holiday trivia, the history behind Pearl Milling Company’s rebrand, and the pros and cons of coding in YAML.<br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:11] - Number 15 Whiskey - Blackened Flagship.
</li>
 <li>[04:47] - Number 16 Whiskey - Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey.
</li>
 <li>[08:27] - The story of the Pearl Milling Company.
</li>
 <li>[13:07] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
  <li>[17:40] - Best use case for YAML.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[18:45] - “You think of CSV as a data structuring format, I think of JSON as a more data structuring format, and I think of YAML as an even more robust, diverse data structure format.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[20:07] - “Programming languages are good at executing things, and I would think that YAML is not a programming language in the classic sense.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://blackenedwhiskey.com/products/" target="_blank">Blackened Flagship Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.metallica.com/" target="_blank">Metallica </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amrutdistilleries.com/amrut-indian-single-malt-whisky.php" target="_blank">Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pearlmillingcompany.com/" target="_blank">The Pearl Milling Company</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bensoriginal.com/" target="_blank">Ben’s Original Rice</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.costco.com/" target="_blank">Costco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yaml.org/" target="_blank">YAML</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Holiday Trivia, Food History, and YAML</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w2e9q1wtmp47nxixum98fhog/gtnq9hokkgsl3isva42lhl5k.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1532</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>70</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Is YAML a programming language? According to Robbie and Chuck, it’s not. And even though you could code in YAML and add functions to it, doesn’t mean you should. Some things are better left uncomplicated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
YAML is a data structuring format, and that’s what it’s good at. While some might disagree, Chuck and Robbie believe functions are one of the key elements of programming languages and YAML doesn’t have that baked in. If you’re looking for functions, it’s better to stick to a programming language that has what you need. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about holiday trivia, the history behind Pearl Milling Company’s rebrand, and the pros and cons of coding in YAML.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:11] - Number 15 Whiskey - Blackened Flagship.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:47] - Number 16 Whiskey - Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:27] - The story of the Pearl Milling Company.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[13:07] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:40] - Best use case for YAML.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:45] - “You think of CSV as a data structuring format, I think of JSON as a more data structuring format, and I think of YAML as an even more robust, diverse data structure format.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:07] - “Programming languages are good at executing things, and I would think that YAML is not a programming language in the classic sense.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://blackenedwhiskey.com/products/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Blackened Flagship Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.metallica.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Metallica &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amrutdistilleries.com/amrut-indian-single-malt-whisky.php&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amrut Indian Single Malt Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pearlmillingcompany.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Pearl Milling Company&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bensoriginal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ben’s Original Rice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.costco.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Costco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yaml.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;YAML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/w2e9q1wtmp47nxixum98fhog/w8kh7vl85sy0mzkzpdvayibb/transcoded-01KECKD3464DXH6512XZ2B0FA8-01KECKD346ANTM0ADSF0NC8EAF_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Framework Predictions, Voting for WWW on State of JS, and Football</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It’s anyone’s guess what the future of front-end frameworks will hold but the developer community on Twitter has its own predictions. Meanwhile, usage numbers for Javascript frameworks are showing that Vue and Next are catching up to React. Is the hype around React plateauing, or is that wishful thinking? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Whether you call them meta frameworks, backend frameworks, or rendering frameworks, they seem to be sparking excitement in the Javascript community. Remix, Vercel, Next JS, and Nuxt are the ones to watch. But out of all the front-end frameworks, Robbie believes Svelte will come out on top because it has the best balance of vanilla Javascript with added features.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about frameworks steering the future of front-end development, what’s happening in the 2022 Qatar World Cup, and the structure of college football. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:25] - Number 13 Whiskey: Noble Oak - Double Oak Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:26] - Number 14 Whiskey: Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:12] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:05] - Predictions in the front-end frameworks space.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:48] - 2022 World Cup standings and college football.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:02] - “I think the things that are exciting are rendering frameworks. Which is like Next.js and Nuxt.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:42] - “The things that get the hype and feel quote-unquote sexy are different than the things that might actually be used to build 50% or more of apps in the real world.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nobleoak.com/en/double-oak-rye&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Noble Oak: Double Oak Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/blended-scotch/akashi-white-oak-whisky/p/147569750?s=1108&amp;amp;igrules=true&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271263/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eight Crazy Nights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/today&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Today Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitcoin.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bitcoin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA  World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e6ace1be-7bbb-11ed-b706-a7e8474f429c</guid><pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/hifcttuaxabtr394qi49o2wn.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s anyone’s guess what the future of front-end frameworks will hold but the developer community on Twitter has its own predictions. Meanwhile, usage numbers for Javascript frameworks are showing that Vue and Next are catching up to React. Is the hype around React plateauing, or is that wishful thinking? </p>
<p>
Whether you call them meta frameworks, backend frameworks, or rendering frameworks, they seem to be sparking excitement in the Javascript community. Remix, Vercel, Next JS, and Nuxt are the ones to watch. But out of all the front-end frameworks, Robbie believes Svelte will come out on top because it has the best balance of vanilla Javascript with added features.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about frameworks steering the future of front-end development, what’s happening in the 2022 Qatar World Cup, and the structure of college football. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:25] - Number 13 Whiskey: Noble Oak - Double Oak Rye Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[04:26] - Number 14 Whiskey: Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[08:12] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
  <li>[14:05] - Predictions in the front-end frameworks space.
</li>
  <li>[20:48] - 2022 World Cup standings and college football.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[16:02] - “I think the things that are exciting are rendering frameworks. Which is like Next.js and Nuxt.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[19:42] - “The things that get the hype and feel quote-unquote sexy are different than the things that might actually be used to build 50% or more of apps in the real world.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.nobleoak.com/en/double-oak-rye" target="_blank">Noble Oak: Double Oak Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/blended-scotch/akashi-white-oak-whisky/p/147569750?s=1108&amp;igrules=true" target="_blank">Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271263/" target="_blank">Eight Crazy Nights</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nbc.com/today" target="_blank">The Today Show</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bitcoin.org/" target="_blank">Bitcoin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">Shepherd JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" target="_blank">FIFA  World Cup Qatar 2022</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Framework Predictions, Voting for WWW on State of JS, and Football</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hifcttuaxabtr394qi49o2wn/ajm2o01uitgcy0sfgs8u2ls1.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1785</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>69</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It’s anyone’s guess what the future of front-end frameworks will hold but the developer community on Twitter has its own predictions. Meanwhile, usage numbers for Javascript frameworks are showing that Vue and Next are catching up to React. Is the hype around React plateauing, or is that wishful thinking? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Whether you call them meta frameworks, backend frameworks, or rendering frameworks, they seem to be sparking excitement in the Javascript community. Remix, Vercel, Next JS, and Nuxt are the ones to watch. But out of all the front-end frameworks, Robbie believes Svelte will come out on top because it has the best balance of vanilla Javascript with added features.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about frameworks steering the future of front-end development, what’s happening in the 2022 Qatar World Cup, and the structure of college football. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:25] - Number 13 Whiskey: Noble Oak - Double Oak Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[04:26] - Number 14 Whiskey: Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:12] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:05] - Predictions in the front-end frameworks space.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:48] - 2022 World Cup standings and college football.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:02] - “I think the things that are exciting are rendering frameworks. Which is like Next.js and Nuxt.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:42] - “The things that get the hype and feel quote-unquote sexy are different than the things that might actually be used to build 50% or more of apps in the real world.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nobleoak.com/en/double-oak-rye&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Noble Oak: Double Oak Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/blended-scotch/akashi-white-oak-whisky/p/147569750?s=1108&amp;amp;igrules=true&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Akashi Japanese Blended Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271263/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eight Crazy Nights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nbc.com/today&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Today Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bitcoin.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bitcoin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA  World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/hifcttuaxabtr394qi49o2wn/cxvwgamff30nj5rp8j2e2y9p/transcoded-01KECKD46KQ5FWZ5DGKV3H22HG-01KECKD46KJXK97RMWY5WVVWAV_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Testing the Hype of ChatGPT, GitLab, and Holiday Trivia</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie put it to the test to recommend podcast topics, it doesn’t present the most imaginative ideas. Despite the hype, the tech is not all-knowing – it is only as smart as the people who make it. On the other hand, GitLab has the opposite problem. The platform has all the components for success, but it still isn’t heavily adopted in the open-source community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their experience using ChatGPT to generate topics for the podcast, what’s holding back GitLab in the open-source community, and their favorite holiday trivia.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Number 11 Whiskey: Walsh Whiskey - The Irishman Single Malt.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:58] - Number 12 Whiskey: Balcones - Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:30] - Asking ChatGPT to generate podcast topics.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:52] - Factors hindering GitLab in the open source community.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:18] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[10:15] - “GitLab is a pretty holistic product in terms of not just hosting Git repositories. It’s pretty feature-rich.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:25] - “I admit that most of what Microsoft does is really good, it&#39;s just Windows that&#39;s not good, and even they know that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walshwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Walsh Whiskey The Irishman Single Malt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.skittles.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skittles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://balconesdistilling.com/spirit/lineage-texas-single-malt-whisky/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Balcones: Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total Wine &amp;amp; More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://caddyserver.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Caddy Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://about.gitlab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frosty the Snowman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirited&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8203f47e-7bba-11ed-b20a-93583140413f</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mom3lpc27xlojyw51j1yai13.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT. </p>
<p>
ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie put it to the test to recommend podcast topics, it doesn’t present the most imaginative ideas. Despite the hype, the tech is not all-knowing – it is only as smart as the people who make it. On the other hand, GitLab has the opposite problem. The platform has all the components for success, but it still isn’t heavily adopted in the open-source community.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their experience using ChatGPT to generate topics for the podcast, what’s holding back GitLab in the open-source community, and their favorite holiday trivia.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:37] - Number 11 Whiskey: Walsh Whiskey - The Irishman Single Malt.
</li>
 <li>[02:58] - Number 12 Whiskey: Balcones - Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky.
</li>
  <li>[07:30] - Asking ChatGPT to generate podcast topics.
</li>
  <li>[09:52] - Factors hindering GitLab in the open source community.
</li>
  <li>[20:18] - Holiday Trivia.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[10:15] - “GitLab is a pretty holistic product in terms of not just hosting Git repositories. It’s pretty feature-rich.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[14:25] - “I admit that most of what Microsoft does is really good, it's just Windows that's not good, and even they know that.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.walshwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Walsh Whiskey The Irishman Single Malt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.skittles.com/" target="_blank">Skittles</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://balconesdistilling.com/spirit/lineage-texas-single-malt-whisky/" target="_blank">Balcones: Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/" target="_blank">Total Wine &amp; More</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank">OpenAI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wesbos.com/" target="_blank">Wes Bos</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://caddyserver.com/" target="_blank">Caddy Server</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://about.gitlab.com/" target="_blank">GitLab</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.coca-cola.com/" target="_blank">Coca Cola</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/" target="_blank">Frosty the Snowman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/" target="_blank">Spirited</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Testing the Hype of ChatGPT, GitLab, and Holiday Trivia</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mom3lpc27xlojyw51j1yai13/beupgiduv585i9262qr9iryf.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1542</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>68</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Popularity doesn’t equal quality. We’ve seen it with React and the latest technology to fall victim to this is OpenAI’s chatbot, ChatGPT. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
ChatGPT is trending on Twitter and is talked about as one of the great innovations of this era. But when Chuck and Robbie put it to the test to recommend podcast topics, it doesn’t present the most imaginative ideas. Despite the hype, the tech is not all-knowing – it is only as smart as the people who make it. On the other hand, GitLab has the opposite problem. The platform has all the components for success, but it still isn’t heavily adopted in the open-source community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their experience using ChatGPT to generate topics for the podcast, what’s holding back GitLab in the open-source community, and their favorite holiday trivia.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:37] - Number 11 Whiskey: Walsh Whiskey - The Irishman Single Malt.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:58] - Number 12 Whiskey: Balcones - Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:30] - Asking ChatGPT to generate podcast topics.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:52] - Factors hindering GitLab in the open source community.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:18] - Holiday Trivia.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[10:15] - “GitLab is a pretty holistic product in terms of not just hosting Git repositories. It’s pretty feature-rich.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:25] - “I admit that most of what Microsoft does is really good, it&#39;s just Windows that&#39;s not good, and even they know that.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.walshwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Walsh Whiskey The Irishman Single Malt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.skittles.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skittles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://balconesdistilling.com/spirit/lineage-texas-single-malt-whisky/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Balcones: Linage Texas Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total Wine &amp;amp; More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wesbos.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://caddyserver.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Caddy Server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://about.gitlab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.coca-cola.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Coca Cola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frosty the Snowman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirited&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mom3lpc27xlojyw51j1yai13/hrkeaatro2xj6rpot9km8zp6/transcoded-01KECKD4J2TBA8AWABZT1SDN2S-01KECKD4J2A53775R4MVZYC962_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: More on State of JS, TV Shows, and Holiday Traditions</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Every developer has their limits and Chuck and Robbie share their points of view. Shadow DOM and Custom Elements are the last browser APIs they know in the State of JS survey. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the spirit of the holiday, they’re breaking out the Christmas movies, decorating gingerbread houses, and visiting Santa villages to spend quality time with family.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their final thoughts on browser APIs from the State of JS survey questions, their favorite holiday TV shows, and family holiday traditions. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:45] - Number 9 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:00] - Numer 10 Whiskey: Brenekridge Bourbon Whiskey, A Blend.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:08] - Browser APIs mentioned in the State of JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:44] - TV shows to enjoy during the holidays.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:30] - Chuck gives an update on the World Cup and the state of soccer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:05] - Movies to watch during the holidays.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:44] - Chuck and Robbie’s holiday traditions.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:34] - “The World Cup, we’re not in it anymore so you have to pick your next favorite team.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:37] - “I know I watched my fair share of Disney movies back in the day when they were on VHS and LaserDisc.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/single-malt/kurayoshi-malt-whisky/p/190745750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kurayoshi Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/togouchi-3-year-blended-japanese-whisky/p/237657750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Togouchi 3 Year Blended Japanese Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://breckenridgedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Breckenridge Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-baking-championship&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Baking Champions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-wars&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/alone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-gingerbread-showdown&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Gingerbread Showdown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nesa.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The National Eagle Scout Association&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015381/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guardians of the Galaxy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Titans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;United States Men’s National Soccer Team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2709692/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Grinch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frosty and the Snowman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319343/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirited&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/en-jm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3040964/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jungle Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://northpoleexperience.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The North Pole Experience&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/polar-express&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Polar Express&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">897d613a-7af3-11ed-afd4-33e35e452020</guid><pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ssg51p7njsathvtzkmj10qgx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every developer has their limits and Chuck and Robbie share their points of view. Shadow DOM and Custom Elements are the last browser APIs they know in the State of JS survey. </p>
<p>
In the spirit of the holiday, they’re breaking out the Christmas movies, decorating gingerbread houses, and visiting Santa villages to spend quality time with family.
</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their final thoughts on browser APIs from the State of JS survey questions, their favorite holiday TV shows, and family holiday traditions. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:45] - Number 9 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Malt Whisky.
</li>
 <li>[05:00] - Numer 10 Whiskey: Brenekridge Bourbon Whiskey, A Blend.
</li>
  <li>[09:08] - Browser APIs mentioned in the State of JS.
</li>
  <li>[11:44] - TV shows to enjoy during the holidays.
</li>
  <li>[16:30] - Chuck gives an update on the World Cup and the state of soccer.
</li>
  <li>[20:05] - Movies to watch during the holidays.
</li>
  <li>[23:44] - Chuck and Robbie’s holiday traditions.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:34] - “The World Cup, we’re not in it anymore so you have to pick your next favorite team.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[22:37] - “I know I watched my fair share of Disney movies back in the day when they were on VHS and LaserDisc.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/single-malt/kurayoshi-malt-whisky/p/190745750" target="_blank">Kurayoshi Malt Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/togouchi-3-year-blended-japanese-whisky/p/237657750" target="_blank">Togouchi 3 Year Blended Japanese Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://breckenridgedistillery.com/" target="_blank">Breckenridge Distillery </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-baking-championship" target="_blank">Holiday Baking Champions</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-wars" target="_blank">Holiday Wars</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.history.com/shows/alone" target="_blank">Alone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-gingerbread-showdown" target="_blank">Holiday Gingerbread Showdown</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nesa.org/" target="_blank">The National Eagle Scout Association</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank">Starlink</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015381/" target="_blank">Guardians of the Galaxy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/" target="_blank">Titans</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" target="_blank">FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt" target="_blank">United States Men’s National Soccer Team</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2709692/" target="_blank">The Grinch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/" target="_blank">Frosty and the Snowman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319343/" target="_blank">Elf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/" target="_blank">Spirited</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166813/" target="_blank">Spirit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/en-jm" target="_blank">Disney Plus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3040964/" target="_blank">The Jungle Book</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://northpoleexperience.com/" target="_blank">The North Pole Experience</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/polar-express" target="_blank">The Polar Express</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.target.com/" target="_blank">Target</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us" target="_blank">Lego</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: More on State of JS, TV Shows, and Holiday Traditions</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ssg51p7njsathvtzkmj10qgx/bismais06xv52kj7fwqdkt10.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1766</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>67</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Every developer has their limits and Chuck and Robbie share their points of view. Shadow DOM and Custom Elements are the last browser APIs they know in the State of JS survey. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the spirit of the holiday, they’re breaking out the Christmas movies, decorating gingerbread houses, and visiting Santa villages to spend quality time with family.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about their final thoughts on browser APIs from the State of JS survey questions, their favorite holiday TV shows, and family holiday traditions. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:45] - Number 9 Whiskey: Kurayoshi Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[05:00] - Numer 10 Whiskey: Brenekridge Bourbon Whiskey, A Blend.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[09:08] - Browser APIs mentioned in the State of JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:44] - TV shows to enjoy during the holidays.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:30] - Chuck gives an update on the World Cup and the state of soccer.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:05] - Movies to watch during the holidays.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:44] - Chuck and Robbie’s holiday traditions.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:34] - “The World Cup, we’re not in it anymore so you have to pick your next favorite team.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[22:37] - “I know I watched my fair share of Disney movies back in the day when they were on VHS and LaserDisc.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch/single-malt/kurayoshi-malt-whisky/p/190745750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kurayoshi Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/togouchi-3-year-blended-japanese-whisky/p/237657750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Togouchi 3 Year Blended Japanese Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://breckenridgedistillery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Breckenridge Distillery &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-baking-championship&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Baking Champions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-wars&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.history.com/shows/alone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/holiday-gingerbread-showdown&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Holiday Gingerbread Showdown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nesa.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The National Eagle Scout Association&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015381/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guardians of the Galaxy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Titans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;United States Men’s National Soccer Team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2709692/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Grinch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Frosty and the Snowman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319343/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10999120/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirited&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spirit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/en-jm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3040964/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Jungle Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://northpoleexperience.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The North Pole Experience&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/polar-express&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Polar Express&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lego.com/en-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lego&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ssg51p7njsathvtzkmj10qgx/q1hoaa16b7jy38iiwugp721p/transcoded-01KECKD59B7DY8HS0BR7011J61-01KECKD59BSJ2EJJC5SP0NX680_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: State of JS, ChatGPT, and Browser APIs</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The State of JS is one of the best ways to get your voice heard and learn about the Javascript ecosystem. The React developers are likely in the majority of survey respondents but every developer within the Javascript community should consider taking it to get an accurate representation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One of the topics covered in the State of JS survey is browser APIs like WebGL, Web Animations, and Service Workers. Chuck and Robbie test their knowledge to see how much they know about them and Robbie recounts his terrible experience with service workers in Ember.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of the State of JS survey, the features of different browser APIs, and the viral ChatGPT chatbot from OpenAI. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:41] - Number Six Whiskey: Mars Shinshu Iwai 45% Japanese Blended Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:12] - Numer Seven Whiskey: J. Rieger &amp;amp; Co. Blended 46%.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:35] - Number Eight Whiskey: Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:00] - The features of the new browser APIs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:55] - The popularity of ChatGPT on Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:07] - “Well, it&#39;s good that you realized that Ember is dead, and you’ve moved on to other technologies.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:43] - “Cache is just hard. That has been said in software for longer than we’ve been around or at least the internet.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:55] - “The only way that I’ve ever used WebSockets was to replace polling for your API.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/mars-whisky-iwai-45/p/232809750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mars Shinshu Iwai 45 Japanese Blended Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jriegerco.com/our-spirits/kcwhiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;J. Rieger &amp;amp; Co. Kansas City Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twostackswhiskey.com/product/two-stacks-the-blenders-cut-cask-strength/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sharpie.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sharpie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.allbirds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Allbirds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guinness.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guinness &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://get.webgl.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WebGL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">760e0138-7af1-11ed-b0ea-5b94a30200fd</guid><pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jw87ng508cn10qock826g97a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The State of JS is one of the best ways to get your voice heard and learn about the Javascript ecosystem. The React developers are likely in the majority of survey respondents but every developer within the Javascript community should consider taking it to get an accurate representation.</p>
<p>
One of the topics covered in the State of JS survey is browser APIs like WebGL, Web Animations, and Service Workers. Chuck and Robbie test their knowledge to see how much they know about them and Robbie recounts his terrible experience with service workers in Ember.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of the State of JS survey, the features of different browser APIs, and the viral ChatGPT chatbot from OpenAI. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:41] - Number Six Whiskey: Mars Shinshu Iwai 45% Japanese Blended Whisky.
</li>
  <li>[06:12] - Numer Seven Whiskey: J. Rieger &amp; Co. Blended 46%.
</li>
  <li>[10:35] - Number Eight Whiskey: Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength
</li>
  <li>[17:00] - The features of the new browser APIs.
</li>
  <li>[20:55] - The popularity of ChatGPT on Twitter.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[20:07] - “Well, it's good that you realized that Ember is dead, and you’ve moved on to other technologies.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[20:43] - “Cache is just hard. That has been said in software for longer than we’ve been around or at least the internet.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[20:55] - “The only way that I’ve ever used WebSockets was to replace polling for your API.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/" target="_blank">Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/mars-whisky-iwai-45/p/232809750" target="_blank">Mars Shinshu Iwai 45 Japanese Blended Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jriegerco.com/our-spirits/kcwhiskey" target="_blank">J. Rieger &amp; Co. Kansas City Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twostackswhiskey.com/product/two-stacks-the-blenders-cut-cask-strength/" target="_blank">Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/" target="_blank">Jameson Irish Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sharpie.com/" target="_blank">Sharpie</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.allbirds.com/" target="_blank">Allbirds</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.guinness.com/" target="_blank">Guinness </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/" target="_blank">Safari</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank">OpenAI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://get.webgl.org/" target="_blank">WebGL</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: State of JS, ChatGPT, and Browser APIs</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jw87ng508cn10qock826g97a/o45ea6h09zlxhcokfnk178o9.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1840</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The State of JS is one of the best ways to get your voice heard and learn about the Javascript ecosystem. The React developers are likely in the majority of survey respondents but every developer within the Javascript community should consider taking it to get an accurate representation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One of the topics covered in the State of JS survey is browser APIs like WebGL, Web Animations, and Service Workers. Chuck and Robbie test their knowledge to see how much they know about them and Robbie recounts his terrible experience with service workers in Ember.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of the State of JS survey, the features of different browser APIs, and the viral ChatGPT chatbot from OpenAI. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:41] - Number Six Whiskey: Mars Shinshu Iwai 45% Japanese Blended Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[06:12] - Numer Seven Whiskey: J. Rieger &amp;amp; Co. Blended 46%.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:35] - Number Eight Whiskey: Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:00] - The features of the new browser APIs.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:55] - The popularity of ChatGPT on Twitter.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:07] - “Well, it&#39;s good that you realized that Ember is dead, and you’ve moved on to other technologies.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:43] - “Cache is just hard. That has been said in software for longer than we’ve been around or at least the internet.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:55] - “The only way that I’ve ever used WebSockets was to replace polling for your API.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/mars-whisky-iwai-45/p/232809750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mars Shinshu Iwai 45 Japanese Blended Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jriegerco.com/our-spirits/kcwhiskey&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;J. Rieger &amp;amp; Co. Kansas City Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twostackswhiskey.com/product/two-stacks-the-blenders-cut-cask-strength/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Two Stacks The Blenders Cut Cask Strength Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jameson Irish Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sharpie.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sharpie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.allbirds.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Allbirds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.guinness.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guinness &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/safari/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Safari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://get.webgl.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WebGL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jw87ng508cn10qock826g97a/h62iuksso8q8bg97tgvbh8lv/transcoded-01KECKD7RPADV2XRYE47EFW8HE-01KECKD7RP03XVG3Q17HQP06CS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: State of JS and Microsoft&#39;s Legacy</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The Javascript landscape is ever-changing. We can always rely on the State of JS survey to keep up with the latest trends and changes in the space. According to Robbie, Microsoft seems to be at the forefront of that change. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Microsoft holds the lion’s share of platforms and products in Javascript development including VS Code and GitHub. It’s hard not to rely on Microsoft as a developer. It’s also hard to find someone who doesn’t love the Xbox. But even though they’ve come a long way and given us great inventions, there’s still plenty of room to improve. Especially where developer experience and enterprise products are concerned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about results from the State of JS survey, and Microsoft’s legacy of successful gaming versus failed enterprise products.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:41] - Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar App.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:23] - Number Three Whiskey - Chapter 7 Whiskey: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:37] - Number Four Whiskey - Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:16] - Number Five Whiskey - Redemption Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:20] - JavaScript features from the State of JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:38] - Microsoft hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:30] - “If there’s a thing that you don’t want to mutate, don’t mutate it. You don’t need the proxy. You can just use an object.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:38] - “It&#39;s a really hot take that Microsoft does everything right, except for Windows.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:57] - “Have you used Teams? I would rather use Windows than Teams.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chapter7whisky.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chapter 7 Whisky: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt Whiskey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/67193/kamet-indian-single-malt-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://redemptionwhiskey.com/whiskeys/rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redemption Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;U.S. Men&#39;s National Soccer team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Halo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bethesda Softworks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://about.gitlab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://verdaccio.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Verdaccio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://temporal.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Temporal.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">cb0f5c3c-7a41-11ed-8ffc-df1b148e5274</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ew10t3ilw94h1tlyf0xjzhfc.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Javascript landscape is ever-changing. We can always rely on the State of JS survey to keep up with the latest trends and changes in the space. According to Robbie, Microsoft seems to be at the forefront of that change. </p>
<p>
Microsoft holds the lion’s share of platforms and products in Javascript development including VS Code and GitHub. It’s hard not to rely on Microsoft as a developer. It’s also hard to find someone who doesn’t love the Xbox. But even though they’ve come a long way and given us great inventions, there’s still plenty of room to improve. Especially where developer experience and enterprise products are concerned.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about results from the State of JS survey, and Microsoft’s legacy of successful gaming versus failed enterprise products.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:41] - Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar App.
</li>
 <li>[03:23] - Number Three Whiskey - Chapter 7 Whiskey: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt.
</li>
  <li>[05:37] - Number Four Whiskey - Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky.
</li>
  <li>[10:16] - Number Five Whiskey - Redemption Rye Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[15:20] - JavaScript features from the State of JS.
</li>
  <li>[19:38] - Microsoft hot takes.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[17:30] - “If there’s a thing that you don’t want to mutate, don’t mutate it. You don’t need the proxy. You can just use an object.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[19:38] - “It's a really hot take that Microsoft does everything right, except for Windows.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[19:57] - “Have you used Teams? I would rather use Windows than Teams.” ~<a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank"> Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/" target="_blank">Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Barrell Craft Spirits</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://chapter7whisky.com/" target="_blank">Chapter 7 Whisky: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt Whiskey </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/67193/kamet-indian-single-malt-whisky" target="_blank">Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://redemptionwhiskey.com/whiskeys/rye/" target="_blank">Redemption Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" target="_blank">FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt" target="_blank">U.S. Men's National Soccer team</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">The State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev/" target="_blank">Shepherd JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows" target="_blank">Windows</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/" target="_blank">Xbox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software" target="_blank">Microsoft Teams</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://linkedin.com/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo" target="_blank">Halo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bethesda.net/" target="_blank">Bethesda Softworks</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">Visual Studio Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linux.org/" target="_blank">Linux</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://about.gitlab.com/" target="_blank">GitLab</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://verdaccio.org/" target="_blank">Verdaccio</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://temporal.io/" target="_blank">Temporal.io</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: State of JS and Microsoft&#39;s Legacy</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ew10t3ilw94h1tlyf0xjzhfc/jsvtml7c5ukaluq5sw4loqyi.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1837</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>65</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The Javascript landscape is ever-changing. We can always rely on the State of JS survey to keep up with the latest trends and changes in the space. According to Robbie, Microsoft seems to be at the forefront of that change. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Microsoft holds the lion’s share of platforms and products in Javascript development including VS Code and GitHub. It’s hard not to rely on Microsoft as a developer. It’s also hard to find someone who doesn’t love the Xbox. But even though they’ve come a long way and given us great inventions, there’s still plenty of room to improve. Especially where developer experience and enterprise products are concerned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about results from the State of JS survey, and Microsoft’s legacy of successful gaming versus failed enterprise products.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:41] - Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar App.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:23] - Number Three Whiskey - Chapter 7 Whiskey: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[05:37] - Number Four Whiskey - Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[10:16] - Number Five Whiskey - Redemption Rye Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:20] - JavaScript features from the State of JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:38] - Microsoft hot takes.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:30] - “If there’s a thing that you don’t want to mutate, don’t mutate it. You don’t need the proxy. You can just use an object.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:38] - “It&#39;s a really hot take that Microsoft does everything right, except for Windows.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:57] - “Have you used Teams? I would rather use Windows than Teams.” ~&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt; Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://chapter7whisky.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chapter 7 Whisky: Prologue Blended Scotch Malt Whiskey &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/67193/kamet-indian-single-malt-whisky&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kamet Indian Single Malt Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://redemptionwhiskey.com/whiskeys/rye/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redemption Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ussoccer.com/teams/usmnt&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;U.S. Men&#39;s National Soccer team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Windows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xbox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-teams/group-chat-software&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft Teams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://linkedin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Halo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bethesda.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bethesda Softworks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Visual Studio Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://about.gitlab.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitLab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://verdaccio.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Verdaccio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://temporal.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Temporal.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ew10t3ilw94h1tlyf0xjzhfc/ya8okol752epg7g0bkjqh5m3/transcoded-01KECKDR4NS2SVZV36PB6TXXBB-01KECKDR4N09PRERQNMNGVZWSQ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Advent of Whiskey: Coding Advent Calendars and the Strangest AI Projects</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It’s the season of advent calendars, and coding platforms are launching challenges left and right. If you are waiting for a sign to try a new language or framework, advent calendars are a great place to start. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Advent of Whiskey series will be 10 episodes leading up to Christmas.&lt;br&gt;Chuck and Robbie are following Flaviar&#39;s Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022, trying new whiskeys each episode and talking about the latest in tech. Robbie might be gearing up to try the CSS advent calendar challenge but don’t expect Chuck to try CSS any time soon. 
&lt;br&gt;In this festive episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about learning new skills with a coding advent calendar, AI&#39;s strangest or most exciting use cases, and the Advent of Whiskey series following the Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[00:08] -  An introduction to Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:07] - Number One Whiskey: Fistful of Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:32] - Number Two Whiskey: Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof Rum Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss coding advent calendars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - What to look forward to during the advent series.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:21] - OpenAI chats on the GPT-3 platform.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:39] - “For anyone who hasn’t listened before, Chuck really hates CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:56] - “GPT is basically an open machine learning, AI platform that you can train on whatever things you want and then start to ask it questions.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s Whiskey: The Depths of Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fistfulofbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fistful of Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.williamgrant.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;William Grant &amp;amp; Sons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roncolonsalvadoreno.com/wp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adventofcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Advent of Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adventofcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Advent of CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adamwathan.me/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Wathan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax. Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chefboyardee.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chef Boyardee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;King James Bible&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7a0cda0e-7a40-11ed-922a-43398b6c6c3e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/sfvy8qopietrf3z2eom64mpy.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the season of advent calendars, and coding platforms are launching challenges left and right. If you are waiting for a sign to try a new language or framework, advent calendars are a great place to start. </p>
<p>
The Advent of Whiskey series will be 10 episodes leading up to Christmas.<br>Chuck and Robbie are following Flaviar's Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022, trying new whiskeys each episode and talking about the latest in tech. Robbie might be gearing up to try the CSS advent calendar challenge but don’t expect Chuck to try CSS any time soon. 
<br>In this festive episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about learning new skills with a coding advent calendar, AI's strangest or most exciting use cases, and the Advent of Whiskey series following the Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>[00:08] -  An introduction to Flaviar's "Depths of Whiskey" Advent Calendar. 
</li>
  <li>[02:07] - Number One Whiskey: Fistful of Bourbon.
</li>
  <li>[07:32] - Number Two Whiskey: Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof Rum Rye.
</li>
  <li>[11:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss coding advent calendars.
</li>
  <li>[17:08] - What to look forward to during the advent series.
</li>
  <li>[18:21] - OpenAI chats on the GPT-3 platform.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[14:39] - “For anyone who hasn’t listened before, Chuck really hates CSS.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[18:56] - “GPT is basically an open machine learning, AI platform that you can train on whatever things you want and then start to ask it questions.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/" target="_blank">Flaviar's Whiskey: The Depths of Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://fistfulofbourbon.com/" target="_blank">Fistful of Bourbon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.williamgrant.com/" target="_blank">William Grant &amp; Sons</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.roncolonsalvadoreno.com/wp/" target="_blank">Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://adventofcode.com/" target="_blank">Advent of Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adventofcss.com/" target="_blank">Advent of CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank">Figma </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tailwindcss.com/" target="_blank">Tailwind CSS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://adamwathan.me/" target="_blank">Adam Wathan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stateofjs.com/en-us/" target="_blank">State of JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/wesbos" target="_blank">Wes Bos </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/stolinski" target="_blank">Scott Tolinski</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://syntax.fm/" target="_blank">Syntax. Podcast</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.chefboyardee.com/" target="_blank">Chef Boyardee</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://openai.com/" target="_blank">OpenAI</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/" target="_blank">King James Bible</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Advent of Whiskey: Coding Advent Calendars and the Strangest AI Projects</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/sfvy8qopietrf3z2eom64mpy/h0lnd39enlvytpnldfm1npey.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1534</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>64</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It’s the season of advent calendars, and coding platforms are launching challenges left and right. If you are waiting for a sign to try a new language or framework, advent calendars are a great place to start. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Advent of Whiskey series will be 10 episodes leading up to Christmas.&lt;br&gt;Chuck and Robbie are following Flaviar&#39;s Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022, trying new whiskeys each episode and talking about the latest in tech. Robbie might be gearing up to try the CSS advent calendar challenge but don’t expect Chuck to try CSS any time soon. 
&lt;br&gt;In this festive episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about learning new skills with a coding advent calendar, AI&#39;s strangest or most exciting use cases, and the Advent of Whiskey series following the Flaviar Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[00:08] -  An introduction to Flaviar&#39;s &#34;Depths of Whiskey&#34; Advent Calendar. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[02:07] - Number One Whiskey: Fistful of Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[07:32] - Number Two Whiskey: Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof Rum Rye.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:34] - Chuck and Robbie discuss coding advent calendars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:08] - What to look forward to during the advent series.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:21] - OpenAI chats on the GPT-3 platform.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:39] - “For anyone who hasn’t listened before, Chuck really hates CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[18:56] - “GPT is basically an open machine learning, AI platform that you can train on whatever things you want and then start to ask it questions.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://flaviar.com/blog/advent-calendars/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Flaviar&#39;s Whiskey: The Depths of Whiskey Advent Calendar 2022&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://fistfulofbourbon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fistful of Bourbon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.williamgrant.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;William Grant &amp;amp; Sons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.roncolonsalvadoreno.com/wp/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ron Colon Salvadoreno 100 Proof&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adventofcode.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Advent of Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adventofcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Advent of CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tailwindcss.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tailwind CSS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://adamwathan.me/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adam Wathan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stateofjs.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;State of JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/wesbos&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wes Bos &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/stolinski&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scott Tolinski&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://syntax.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Syntax. Podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.chefboyardee.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chef Boyardee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://openai.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;OpenAI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;King James Bible&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/sfvy8qopietrf3z2eom64mpy/zpv9cib4rzb0lcecb2tsssum/transcoded-01KECKD5SVB76ZR6H9Q7RVG5B3-01KECKD5SVAQ1G3YNGG4XAJNZM_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Supabase, Logflare, and Offroading with Chase Granberry</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Chase Granberry can be called a serial entrepreneur. He bootstrapped his first software company before selling it and starting the centralized logging service, Logflare.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chase sold the company to Supabase and joined the team as an acquired hire to support the team with a centralized logging solution and plotting insights for customers. Chase explains where Supabase is really different from Firebase and some of the benefits you can get from its flexibility combined with real-time data.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chase talks to Chuck and Robbie about joining Supabase after the Logflare acquisition, what makes Supabase different from Firebase, and offroading old cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:26] - An introduction to Chase Granberry.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:14] - A whiskey review - Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:40] - How Supabase got its name.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:45] - The biggest difference between Supabase and Firebase.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:19] - How Chase feels about writing PHP.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:16] - Aspects of Supabase written in Elixir.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:21] - Frameworks that Chase uses to write his interface.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:36] - Upcoming Supabase features.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:44] - How Chase maintains his hobbies as a father.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:19] - Chase, Chuck, and Robbie talk about classic cars.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:26] - “We’re open source, and it&#39;s Postgres. So it’s a SQL database, not a no SQL database, and you can ultimately do whatever you want with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:59] - “All these things are independent and could live on their own but tied together in a package, I think, is what really makes Supabase interesting.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:09] - “In reality, how much Javascript do we really need on a page? In 95 percent of cases, it’s honestly not that much.”  ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chasers?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/chasegranberry/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total Wine &amp;amp; More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.drinkhint.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hint Water&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LaCroix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061512/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cool Hand Luke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/nickiminaj/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nicki Minaj&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.phoenixframework.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Phoenix Framework&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://chrismccord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris McCord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jsonapi.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON:API&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Play Station&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ferrari.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ferrari&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://Lamborghini&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lamborghini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ford&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.jeep.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jeep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1524930/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vacation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://theoatmeal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matthew Inman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4ce8c2b6-7646-11ed-aabf-e7b3a4cdcfa7</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/h13p3iqbxbqpy1wectfzlqs7.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chase Granberry can be called a serial entrepreneur. He bootstrapped his first software company before selling it and starting the centralized logging service, Logflare.
</p><p>Chase sold the company to Supabase and joined the team as an acquired hire to support the team with a centralized logging solution and plotting insights for customers. Chase explains where Supabase is really different from Firebase and some of the benefits you can get from its flexibility combined with real-time data.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chase talks to Chuck and Robbie about joining Supabase after the Logflare acquisition, what makes Supabase different from Firebase, and offroading old cars.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:26] - An introduction to Chase Granberry.
</li>
 <li>[03:14] - A whiskey review - Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey.
</li>
  <li>[14:40] - How Supabase got its name.
</li>
  <li>[15:45] - The biggest difference between Supabase and Firebase.
</li>
  <li>[17:19] - How Chase feels about writing PHP.
</li>
  <li>[18:16] - Aspects of Supabase written in Elixir.
</li>
  <li>[21:21] - Frameworks that Chase uses to write his interface.
</li>
  <li>[29:36] - Upcoming Supabase features.
</li>
  <li>[32:44] - How Chase maintains his hobbies as a father.
</li>
  <li>[35:19] - Chase, Chuck, and Robbie talk about classic cars.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[16:26] - “We’re open source, and it's Postgres. So it’s a SQL database, not a no SQL database, and you can ultimately do whatever you want with it.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/" target="_blank">Chase Granberry</a></p>
<p>
[19:59] - “All these things are independent and could live on their own but tied together in a package, I think, is what really makes Supabase interesting.” ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/" target="_blank">Chase Granberry</a></p>
<p>
[24:09] - “In reality, how much Javascript do we really need on a page? In 95 percent of cases, it’s honestly not that much.”  ~ <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/" target="_blank">Chase Granberry</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/" target="_blank">Chase Granberry LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/chasers?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Chase Granberry Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/chasegranberry/?hl=en" target="_blank">Chase Granberry Instagram</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://supabase.com/" target="_blank">Supabase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://logflare.app/" target="_blank">Logflare</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/togouchi-3-year-blended-japanese-whisky/p/237657750" target="_blank">Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.totalwine.com/" target="_blank">Total Wine &amp; More</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.drinkhint.com/" target="_blank">Hint Water</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.lacroixwater.com/" target="_blank">LaCroix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.target.com/" target="_blank">Target</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061512/" target="_blank">Cool Hand Luke</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nickiminaj/?hl=en" target="_blank">Nicki Minaj</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://firebase.google.com/" target="_blank">Firebase</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net/" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elixir-lang.org/" target="_blank">Elixir</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.phoenixframework.org/" target="_blank">Phoenix Framework</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://angular.io/" target="_blank">Angular</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://backbonejs.org/" target="_blank">Backbone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://chrismccord.com/" target="_blank">Chris McCord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jsonapi.org/" target="_blank">JSON:API</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cloudflare.com/" target="_blank">Cloudflare</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org/" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/" target="_blank">GitHub</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Play Station</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ferrari.com/" target="_blank">Ferrari</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://Lamborghini" target="_blank">Lamborghini</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/" target="_blank">Ford</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.toyota.com/" target="_blank">Toyota</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.jeep.com/" target="_blank">Jeep</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1524930/" target="_blank">Vacation</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://theoatmeal.com/" target="_blank">Matthew Inman</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Supabase, Logflare, and Offroading with Chase Granberry</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/h13p3iqbxbqpy1wectfzlqs7/yshcfafmn69kut29rnzt08h5.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3203</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>63</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Chase Granberry can be called a serial entrepreneur. He bootstrapped his first software company before selling it and starting the centralized logging service, Logflare.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chase sold the company to Supabase and joined the team as an acquired hire to support the team with a centralized logging solution and plotting insights for customers. Chase explains where Supabase is really different from Firebase and some of the benefits you can get from its flexibility combined with real-time data.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chase talks to Chuck and Robbie about joining Supabase after the Logflare acquisition, what makes Supabase different from Firebase, and offroading old cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:26] - An introduction to Chase Granberry.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:14] - A whiskey review - Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[14:40] - How Supabase got its name.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:45] - The biggest difference between Supabase and Firebase.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:19] - How Chase feels about writing PHP.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:16] - Aspects of Supabase written in Elixir.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:21] - Frameworks that Chase uses to write his interface.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:36] - Upcoming Supabase features.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:44] - How Chase maintains his hobbies as a father.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[35:19] - Chase, Chuck, and Robbie talk about classic cars.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[16:26] - “We’re open source, and it&#39;s Postgres. So it’s a SQL database, not a no SQL database, and you can ultimately do whatever you want with it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:59] - “All these things are independent and could live on their own but tied together in a package, I think, is what really makes Supabase interesting.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:09] - “In reality, how much Javascript do we really need on a page? In 95 percent of cases, it’s honestly not that much.”  ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaseg/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/chasers?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/chasegranberry/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chase Granberry Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://supabase.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Supabase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://logflare.app/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Logflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/japanese-whisky/togouchi-3-year-blended-japanese-whisky/p/237657750&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Togouchi 3-Year Blended Japanese Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.totalwine.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Total Wine &amp;amp; More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.drinkhint.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hint Water&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.lacroixwater.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LaCroix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.target.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Target&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061512/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cool Hand Luke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/nickiminaj/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nicki Minaj&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://firebase.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firebase&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elixir-lang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elixir&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.phoenixframework.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Phoenix Framework&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://chrismccord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris McCord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jsonapi.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSON:API&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cloudflare.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cloudflare&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.tesla.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://theoatmeal.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Matthew Inman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/h13p3iqbxbqpy1wectfzlqs7/jxmu7eqvh76x04wej1r9b6fk/transcoded-01KECKDE36CX2P4PPGRAC8JYNR-01KECKDE36Z3RQ3J8KC6T52K2M_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Javascript Games, WTF JS, and a Visit to Phoenix</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It’s not a normal day at the office. Robbie and his family are in Phoenix and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts got together to play a losing game of golf and sip margaritas followed by whiskey.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie guess whether things are Javascript packages or grocery items in a game called “Is it a JS package?”, test their knowledge of tricky Javascript syntax from WTF JS, and talk about Robbie’s experience visiting Chuck in Phoenix.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:57] - A whiskey review - Joseph Magnus Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:20] - Chuck and Robbie play a game called “Is it a JS package?”
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:37] - Chuck and Robbie play WTF JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:58] - Chuck and Robbie whatnot about their golf game and Arizona.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:57] - “There is a site called JSFuck, and it basically shows you a bunch of examples of how to program things out using three characters.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:24] - “Not many programmers know about labels in JavaScript. They are kind of interesting.” ~  &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://josephmagnus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joseph Magnus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hennessy.com/en-int&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hennessy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.android.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Android&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/@avocadohq/avocado-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Avocado JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/@pepper-js/pepper&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepper JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/JuanCam/Bread&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bread JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/brandly/butter.js?files=1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Butter JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/scone-js-common&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scone JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/soup-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Soup JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/burrito&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Burrito JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/ham&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ham JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/zurb/pizza/blob/master/js/pizza.js?MobileOptOut=1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pizza JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gist.github.com/4c3487ffa0dd715cd406&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sandwich JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://beefproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BeEF JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wtfjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WTF JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.jsfuck.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSFuck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studios/old-tucson-studios-arizona/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Tucson Studios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://denysdovhan.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Denys Dovhan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ee41a2e8-7008-11ed-b860-db4d082b499c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lxnsbgvk1rrugp85g9yupgn9.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not a normal day at the office. Robbie and his family are in Phoenix and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot hosts got together to play a losing game of golf and sip margaritas followed by whiskey.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie guess whether things are Javascript packages or grocery items in a game called “Is it a JS package?”, test their knowledge of tricky Javascript syntax from WTF JS, and talk about Robbie’s experience visiting Chuck in Phoenix.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:57] - A whiskey review - Joseph Magnus Bourbon.
</li>
 <li>[04:20] - Chuck and Robbie play a game called “Is it a JS package?”
</li>
  <li>[17:37] - Chuck and Robbie play WTF JS.
</li>
  <li>[23:58] - Chuck and Robbie whatnot about their golf game and Arizona.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[19:57] - “There is a site called JSFuck, and it basically shows you a bunch of examples of how to program things out using three characters.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[20:24] - “Not many programmers know about labels in JavaScript. They are kind of interesting.” ~  <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://josephmagnus.com/" target="_blank">Joseph Magnus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hennessy.com/en-int" target="_blank">Hennessy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/" target="_blank">NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.android.com/" target="_blank">Android</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@avocadohq/avocado-js" target="_blank">Avocado JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@pepper-js/pepper" target="_blank">Pepper JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/JuanCam/Bread" target="_blank">Bread JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/brandly/butter.js?files=1" target="_blank">Butter JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com/" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/scone-js-common" target="_blank">Scone JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/soup-js" target="_blank">Soup JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/burrito" target="_blank">Burrito JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/ham" target="_blank">Ham JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/zurb/pizza/blob/master/js/pizza.js?MobileOptOut=1" target="_blank">Pizza JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gist.github.com/4c3487ffa0dd715cd406" target="_blank">Sandwich JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://beefproject.com/" target="_blank">BeEF JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wtfjs.com/" target="_blank">WTF JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.jsfuck.com/" target="_blank">JSFuck</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studios/old-tucson-studios-arizona/" target="_blank">Old Tucson Studios</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://denysdovhan.com/" target="_blank">Denys Dovhan</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
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&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie guess whether things are Javascript packages or grocery items in a game called “Is it a JS package?”, test their knowledge of tricky Javascript syntax from WTF JS, and talk about Robbie’s experience visiting Chuck in Phoenix.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:57] - A whiskey review - Joseph Magnus Bourbon.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[04:20] - Chuck and Robbie play a game called “Is it a JS package?”
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[17:37] - Chuck and Robbie play WTF JS.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:58] - Chuck and Robbie whatnot about their golf game and Arizona.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:57] - “There is a site called JSFuck, and it basically shows you a bunch of examples of how to program things out using three characters.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:24] - “Not many programmers know about labels in JavaScript. They are kind of interesting.” ~  &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://josephmagnus.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Joseph Magnus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hennessy.com/en-int&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hennessy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.android.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Android&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/@avocadohq/avocado-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Avocado JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/@pepper-js/pepper&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pepper JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/JuanCam/Bread&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bread JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/brandly/butter.js?files=1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Butter JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/scone-js-common&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Scone JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/soup-js&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Soup JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/burrito&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Burrito JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/ham&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ham JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/zurb/pizza/blob/master/js/pizza.js?MobileOptOut=1&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pizza JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gist.github.com/4c3487ffa0dd715cd406&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sandwich JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://beefproject.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;BeEF JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wtfjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WTF JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.jsfuck.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JSFuck&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://www.thestudiotour.com/wp/studios/old-tucson-studios-arizona/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Tucson Studios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lxnsbgvk1rrugp85g9yupgn9/dr54zml76etbvajidtse5dti/transcoded-01KECKD8Z4DJA3FBNG4ARDX7T3-01KECKD8Z4HWT5GKPDKHR6ZTMA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Debating React, Fonts, and Fatherhood with Josh Collinsworth</title><description>&lt;p&gt;React isn’t good at anything, except being popular. That’s a bold statement, but it’s one that Josh Collinsworth stands by. It seems like nearly every major tech company has React in their stack. But why is a framework built specifically for Facebook so popular in the general developer community?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Josh Collinsworth, Senior Front End Developer at Shopify, wrote an article titled “The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of React”. Even though Shopify uses React, Josh didn’t hold back his views on the framework. When React came about, it solved a major problem for Facebook. Since then, it’s been viewed as a solution to every problem and the tech community has been stuck in a loop of teaching React and hiring React developers. But for Josh, React isn’t a solution, it’s just a tool, and it’s not the best out there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about his viral article critiquing React’s popularity, his favorite fonts, and what it’s like juggling fatherhood with side projects. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - An intro to Josh Collinsworth.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:46] - A whiskey review - Wolves Whiskey X Willet Distillery The Rye Project Volume One Batch Two.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:00] - Why Josh thinks React’s popularity is just a self-sustaining cycle.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:03] - Josh’s favorite fonts.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:00] - Josh speaks about how he maintains his hobbies being a father.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:34] - How Shopify acquiring Remix has affected Josh.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:04] - “If you look at the reasons you might actually pick a framework, React doesn&#39;t really tend to come out on top in any of those given categories.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:51] - “I think a lot of people don&#39;t realize that it hasn&#39;t aged that well. It has kind of held itself back in some ways, and the tools that we do now have offer us some advantages that React maybe can&#39;t.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:21] - “We&#39;re churning boot camp grads out with what we consider the minimum viable knowledge, and in this environment, that&#39;s React, and probably extremely little HTML and CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://css-tricks.com/a-complete-beginners-guide-to-npm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CSS Tricks Complete Beginner&#39;s Guide to NPM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://thehackernews.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hacker News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Digital Ocean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte Kit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gist.github.com/NickEngmann/a0018d3956c92413af3c6df73489e08f&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Wolves Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-bourbon/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Willett Family Estate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.harley-davidson.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Harley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124373/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sons of Anarchy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/blog/self-fulfilling-prophecy-of-react&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Self-fulfilling Prophecy of React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.facebook.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ember.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/guillermo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Guillermo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Polymer/polymer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Polymer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.gap.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nullvoxpopuli.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nullvox&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://brew.sh/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Brew&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://mxcl.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Max Howell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://apps.apple.com/us/app/rightfont-font-manager/id1475782381?mt=12&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RightFont&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.monolisa.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MonoLisa.dev&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://slack.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://go.tlc.com/show/90-day-fiance-tlc-atve-us&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;90-Day Fiance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.cbs.com/shows/love-island/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Love Island&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pwabuilder.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pwabuilder.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://developer.apple.com/xcode/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Xcode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.electronjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Electron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.dnb.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dun and Bradstreet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://snapcraft.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux Snap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/store&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://ubuntu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ubuntu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stackoverflow.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stack Overflow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/hydrogen/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hydrogen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f218b24c-69d4-11ed-bffe-43830a4f065f</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/r7lkg1lu1pn7iodgn1jc3v3y.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>React isn’t good at anything, except being popular. That’s a bold statement, but it’s one that Josh Collinsworth stands by. It seems like nearly every major tech company has React in their stack. But why is a framework built specifically for Facebook so popular in the general developer community?</p>
<p>
Josh Collinsworth, Senior Front End Developer at Shopify, wrote an article titled “The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of React”. Even though Shopify uses React, Josh didn’t hold back his views on the framework. When React came about, it solved a major problem for Facebook. Since then, it’s been viewed as a solution to every problem and the tech community has been stuck in a loop of teaching React and hiring React developers. But for Josh, React isn’t a solution, it’s just a tool, and it’s not the best out there.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about his viral article critiquing React’s popularity, his favorite fonts, and what it’s like juggling fatherhood with side projects. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:30] - An intro to Josh Collinsworth.
</li>
  <li>[03:46] - A whiskey review - Wolves Whiskey X Willet Distillery The Rye Project Volume One Batch Two.
</li>
  <li>[13:00] - Why Josh thinks React’s popularity is just a self-sustaining cycle.
</li>
  <li>[39:03] - Josh’s favorite fonts.
</li>
  <li>[45:00] - Josh speaks about how he maintains his hobbies being a father.
</li>
  <li>[53:34] - How Shopify acquiring Remix has affected Josh.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[14:04] - “If you look at the reasons you might actually pick a framework, React doesn't really tend to come out on top in any of those given categories.” ~ <a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/" target="_blank">Josh Collinsworth</a></p>
<p>
[19:51] - “I think a lot of people don't realize that it hasn't aged that well. It has kind of held itself back in some ways, and the tools that we do now have offer us some advantages that React maybe can't.” ~ <a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/" target="_blank">Josh Collinsworth</a></p>
<p>
[33:21] - “We're churning boot camp grads out with what we consider the minimum viable knowledge, and in this environment, that's React, and probably extremely little HTML and CSS.” ~ <a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/" target="_blank">Josh Collinsworth</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/" target="_blank">Josh Collinsworth</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://css-tricks.com/a-complete-beginners-guide-to-npm/" target="_blank">CSS Tricks Complete Beginner's Guide to NPM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://thehackernews.com/" target="_blank">Hacker News</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/" target="_blank">Digital Ocean</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/" target="_blank">Svelte Kit</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gist.github.com/NickEngmann/a0018d3956c92413af3c6df73489e08f" target="_blank">Solid JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/" target="_blank">Wolves Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-bourbon/" target="_blank">Willett Family Estate</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.harley-davidson.com/" target="_blank">Harley</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124373/" target="_blank">Sons of Anarchy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://joshcollinsworth.com/blog/self-fulfilling-prophecy-of-react" target="_blank">The Self-fulfilling Prophecy of React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ember.com/" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/guillermo" target="_blank">Guillermo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Polymer/polymer" target="_blank">Polymer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.gap.com/" target="_blank">Gap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nullvoxpopuli.com/" target="_blank">Nullvox</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://brew.sh/" target="_blank">Brew</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://mxcl.dev/" target="_blank">Max Howell</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://preactjs.com/" target="_blank">Preact</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/rightfont-font-manager/id1475782381?mt=12" target="_blank">RightFont</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">VS Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.monolisa.dev/" target="_blank">MonoLisa.dev</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://go.tlc.com/show/90-day-fiance-tlc-atve-us" target="_blank">90-Day Fiance</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/love-island/" target="_blank">Love Island</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pwabuilder.com/" target="_blank">Pwabuilder.com</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/xcode/" target="_blank">Xcode</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.electronjs.org/" target="_blank">Electron</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.dnb.com/" target="_blank">Dun and Bradstreet</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://snapcraft.io/" target="_blank">Linux Snap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/store" target="_blank">Apple</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">Ubuntu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stackoverflow.com/" target="_blank">Stack Overflow</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/hydrogen/" target="_blank">Hydrogen</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
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</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
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</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Debating React, Fonts, and Fatherhood with Josh Collinsworth</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r7lkg1lu1pn7iodgn1jc3v3y/idk4gug8mkgx0hkmlttwi1ol.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3542</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;React isn’t good at anything, except being popular. That’s a bold statement, but it’s one that Josh Collinsworth stands by. It seems like nearly every major tech company has React in their stack. But why is a framework built specifically for Facebook so popular in the general developer community?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Josh Collinsworth, Senior Front End Developer at Shopify, wrote an article titled “The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of React”. Even though Shopify uses React, Josh didn’t hold back his views on the framework. When React came about, it solved a major problem for Facebook. Since then, it’s been viewed as a solution to every problem and the tech community has been stuck in a loop of teaching React and hiring React developers. But for Josh, React isn’t a solution, it’s just a tool, and it’s not the best out there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Josh talks to Chuck and Robbie about his viral article critiquing React’s popularity, his favorite fonts, and what it’s like juggling fatherhood with side projects. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:30] - An intro to Josh Collinsworth.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[03:46] - A whiskey review - Wolves Whiskey X Willet Distillery The Rye Project Volume One Batch Two.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:00] - Why Josh thinks React’s popularity is just a self-sustaining cycle.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[39:03] - Josh’s favorite fonts.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:00] - Josh speaks about how he maintains his hobbies being a father.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:34] - How Shopify acquiring Remix has affected Josh.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[14:04] - “If you look at the reasons you might actually pick a framework, React doesn&#39;t really tend to come out on top in any of those given categories.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[19:51] - “I think a lot of people don&#39;t realize that it hasn&#39;t aged that well. It has kind of held itself back in some ways, and the tools that we do now have offer us some advantages that React maybe can&#39;t.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:21] - “We&#39;re churning boot camp grads out with what we consider the minimum viable knowledge, and in this environment, that&#39;s React, and probably extremely little HTML and CSS.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://joshcollinsworth.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Josh Collinsworth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r7lkg1lu1pn7iodgn1jc3v3y/g74wan6ivcty1c2serwxinew/transcoded-01KECKDDYCWKD4W0E2T898PVDQ-01KECKDDYCZ7K2RBBKQMV40C1J_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Framework Debates, Tech Layoffs, and Starlink</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The tech layoff saga continues. The latest company in the hot seat is Twitter. After Elon Musk took control of the company, the platform has been in disarray, leaving developers out of jobs and Twitter users confused about the future of the platform. Is the tech world on fire?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether it’s social media, browser wars, or framework debates – the tech community seems to be in disagreement or in crisis. Tech companies were aggressively hiring developers before the economic downturn. Now, these same companies are ruthlessly laying off around 15-20% of their employees. In many cases, shareholder interests are being placed above the people on the ground building the company. Where Elon Musk is concerned, it’s hard to tell his true intentions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the slew of tech debates happening on Twitter, the fallout from Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, and Robbie’s experience with Starlink.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:13] - A whiskey review - Barrell Seagrass.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:53] - What developers are saying on Twitter about frameworks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:20] - How the tech world benefits from framework and browser wars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:18] -  Chuck and Robbie discuss the layoffs happening in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:41] - The power of AWS in web hosting.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:03] - Robbie’s Starlink experience.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:56] - Robbie talks about his new Bronco and selling his Scout.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:10] - Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:58] - “There are things that I like and dislike from every iteration of whatever wars (framework and browser wars) we have but there ultimately are beneficial things that come out of all of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:52] - “Eight dollars for a Starbucks drink, enjoy it for 30 minutes, very happy. Eight dollars for a month on Twitter, super angry.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:27] - “When AWS goes down, half the internet goes down.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Batman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justice League&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">02455882-65c5-11ed-8bbb-9fecb2723d81</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/egi6od7fwp41s09r5ehpumtr.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tech layoff saga continues. The latest company in the hot seat is Twitter. After Elon Musk took control of the company, the platform has been in disarray, leaving developers out of jobs and Twitter users confused about the future of the platform. Is the tech world on fire?
</p><p>Whether it’s social media, browser wars, or framework debates – the tech community seems to be in disagreement or in crisis. Tech companies were aggressively hiring developers before the economic downturn. Now, these same companies are ruthlessly laying off around 15-20% of their employees. In many cases, shareholder interests are being placed above the people on the ground building the company. Where Elon Musk is concerned, it’s hard to tell his true intentions.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the slew of tech debates happening on Twitter, the fallout from Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, and Robbie’s experience with Starlink.</p>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[02:13] - A whiskey review - Barrell Seagrass.
</li>
 <li>[10:53] - What developers are saying on Twitter about frameworks.
</li>
  <li>[28:20] - How the tech world benefits from framework and browser wars.
</li>
  <li>[30:18] -  Chuck and Robbie discuss the layoffs happening in tech.
</li>
  <li>[36:41] - The power of AWS in web hosting.
</li>
  <li>[42:03] - Robbie’s Starlink experience.
</li>
  <li>[46:56] - Robbie talks about his new Bronco and selling his Scout.
</li>
  <li>[53:10] - Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[28:58] - “There are things that I like and dislike from every iteration of whatever wars (framework and browser wars) we have but there ultimately are beneficial things that come out of all of them.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[33:52] - “Eight dollars for a Starbucks drink, enjoy it for 30 minutes, very happy. Eight dollars for a month on Twitter, super angry.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></p>
<p>
[37:27] - “When AWS goes down, half the internet goes down.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.barrellbourbon.com/seagrass" target="_blank">Barrell Seagrass</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/officialphilcollins/?hl=en" target="_blank">Phil Collins</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sap.com/products/technology-platform/fiori.html" target="_blank">Fiori</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mgpingredients.com/" target="_blank">MGP</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.georgedickel.com/" target="_blank">George Dickel Whisky</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/" target="_blank">Next Js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Web Pack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/TurboPack" target="_blank">Turbo Pack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://gulpjs.com/" target="_blank">Gulp </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://rollupjs.org/guide/en/" target="_blank">Rollup</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tea.xyz/" target="_blank">Tea </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.javascript.com/" target="_blank">Java Script</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://portal.azure.com/" target="_blank">Azure Framework</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webassembly.org/" target="_blank">WASM</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hulu.com/" target="_blank">Hulu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starbucks.com/" target="_blank">Starbucks</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon Web Services</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.rackspace.com/" target="_blank">Rack Space</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/mac/" target="_blank">Mac</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank">Starlink</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://eero.com/" target="_blank">Eero</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/en-jm" target="_blank">Disney Plus</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ford.com/bronco/" target="_blank">Bronco</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.porsche.com/usa/" target="_blank">Porsche</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://bringatrailer.com/" target="_blank">Bring a Trailer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/" target="_blank">Peaky Blinders</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/" target="_blank">The Mandalorian</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8466564/" target="_blank">Obi-Wan Kenobi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81002370" target="_blank">Cobra Kai</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087538/" target="_blank">Karate Kid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6763664/" target="_blank">The Haunting of Hill House</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81150303" target="_blank">The Sandman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/" target="_blank">DC Titans</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hbomax.com/jm/en" target="_blank">HBO Max</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/" target="_blank">Batman</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_(TV_series)" target="_blank">Justice League</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
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<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Framework Debates, Tech Layoffs, and Starlink</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/egi6od7fwp41s09r5ehpumtr/xqm8w856rg9gzkh39msznlxx.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3764</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The tech layoff saga continues. The latest company in the hot seat is Twitter. After Elon Musk took control of the company, the platform has been in disarray, leaving developers out of jobs and Twitter users confused about the future of the platform. Is the tech world on fire?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether it’s social media, browser wars, or framework debates – the tech community seems to be in disagreement or in crisis. Tech companies were aggressively hiring developers before the economic downturn. Now, these same companies are ruthlessly laying off around 15-20% of their employees. In many cases, shareholder interests are being placed above the people on the ground building the company. Where Elon Musk is concerned, it’s hard to tell his true intentions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the slew of tech debates happening on Twitter, the fallout from Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover, and Robbie’s experience with Starlink.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:13] - A whiskey review - Barrell Seagrass.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[10:53] - What developers are saying on Twitter about frameworks.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[28:20] - How the tech world benefits from framework and browser wars.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:18] -  Chuck and Robbie discuss the layoffs happening in tech.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:41] - The power of AWS in web hosting.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[42:03] - Robbie’s Starlink experience.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:56] - Robbie talks about his new Bronco and selling his Scout.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[53:10] - Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[28:58] - “There are things that I like and dislike from every iteration of whatever wars (framework and browser wars) we have but there ultimately are beneficial things that come out of all of them.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[33:52] - “Eight dollars for a Starbucks drink, enjoy it for 30 minutes, very happy. Eight dollars for a month on Twitter, super angry.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[37:27] - “When AWS goes down, half the internet goes down.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.barrellbourbon.com/seagrass&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Barrell Seagrass&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/officialphilcollins/?hl=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Phil Collins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sap.com/products/technology-platform/fiori.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fiori&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mgpingredients.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MGP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.georgedickel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;George Dickel Whisky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next Js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Web Pack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/TurboPack&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Turbo Pack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://gulpjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gulp &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://rollupjs.org/guide/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rollup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.shopify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tea.xyz/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tea &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Java Script&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://portal.azure.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Azure Framework&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webassembly.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WASM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hulu.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hulu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starbucks.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starbucks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Web Services&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.rackspace.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Rack Space&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/mac/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mac&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starlink.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Starlink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eero.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eero&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.disneyplus.com/en-jm&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Disney Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ford.com/bronco/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bronco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.porsche.com/usa/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Porsche&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bringatrailer.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bring a Trailer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Peaky Blinders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.starwars.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Star Wars&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8111088/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Mandalorian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8466564/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Obi-Wan Kenobi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81002370&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cobra Kai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087538/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Karate Kid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6763664/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Haunting of Hill House&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netflix.com/title/81150303&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Sandman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043813/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DC Titans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hbomax.com/jm/en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HBO Max&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Batman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_(TV_series)&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Justice League&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/egi6od7fwp41s09r5ehpumtr/fzbcivnjkzem12fi76rmy15j/transcoded-01KECKDEP7EXBT0P4828Q9NQ28-01KECKDEP7292VG1N6KYYGK244_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A11y Hour with Amber Hinds</title><description>&lt;p&gt;WordPress powers over 43% of sites on the internet today, making it a powerhouse web technology. Its simplicity attracted bloggers and do-it-yourselfers who navigate the platform by Googling code snippets. That knowledge gap comes with a whole host of accessibility issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amber Hinds, Founder and CEO at Equalize Digital, quit her part-time gig as a freelance developer when she found WordPress was an easier way to manage content. She&#39;s been doing accessibility work on the platform since 2016 and has seen a boom in the past two years of companies searching for accessibility experts. Amber built the Accessibility Checker plugin as a guardrail to help DIYers avoid common mistakes by auditing a site and flagging accessibility issues. The plugin is also an education tool for content managers, and developers to learn about accessibility.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Amber talks to Chuck and Robbie about web accessibility on WordPress, making accessibility a priority in colleges and boot camps, and RVing around the country with her family.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An intro to Amber Hinds.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:54] - A whiskey review - Weller Special Reserve.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:49] - What it&#39;s like working with WordPress in 2022 compared to earlier years.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:47] - Amber gives an overview of WordPress.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:36] - Amber explains unique accessibility problems in WordPress.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:47] - How Equalize Digital&#39;s plug-in audits WordPress sites.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:55] - Amber&#39;s thoughts on how to make accessibility a priority.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:33] - Chuck and Amber talk about RV life and being on the show, &#34;Going RV&#34;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:43] - &#34;I think the recent number that I saw was that 43% of websites are built in WordPress.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:53] - &#34;I feel like having more general visibility about the broad range of disabilities and also putting people&#39;s faces to things is super helpful.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:33] - &#34;Companies need to realize that accessibility is everyone&#39;s responsibility.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds Twitter [https://mobile.twitter.com/heyamberhinds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds [https://amberhinds.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Equalize Digital [https://equalizedigital.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress [https://wordpress.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility Checker [https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weller Special Reserve [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-special-reserve.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Absolut Vodka [https://www.absolut.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify [https://www.shopify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Square Space [https://www.squarespace.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drupal [https://www.drupal.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Mullenweg [https://ma.tt/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Automattic [https://automattic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Magic Mouse [https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2E3AM/A/magic-mouse-white-multi-touch-surface]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Logitech Lift [https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darci USB [https://www.specialneedscomputers.ca/index.php?l=product_detail&amp;amp;p=4948]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">969a429e-5f9a-11ed-a0ec-73c58115be91</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ej2y750g7h0sc7fruxntnu18.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPress powers over 43% of sites on the internet today, making it a powerhouse web technology. Its simplicity attracted bloggers and do-it-yourselfers who navigate the platform by Googling code snippets. That knowledge gap comes with a whole host of accessibility issues.</p>
<p>Amber Hinds, Founder and CEO at Equalize Digital, quit her part-time gig as a freelance developer when she found WordPress was an easier way to manage content. She's been doing accessibility work on the platform since 2016 and has seen a boom in the past two years of companies searching for accessibility experts. Amber built the Accessibility Checker plugin as a guardrail to help DIYers avoid common mistakes by auditing a site and flagging accessibility issues. The plugin is also an education tool for content managers, and developers to learn about accessibility.</p>
<p>In this episode, Amber talks to Chuck and Robbie about web accessibility on WordPress, making accessibility a priority in colleges and boot camps, and RVing around the country with her family.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:35] - An intro to Amber Hinds.</li>
<li>[00:54] - A whiskey review - Weller Special Reserve.</li>
<li>[07:49] - What it's like working with WordPress in 2022 compared to earlier years.</li>
<li>[10:47] - Amber gives an overview of WordPress.</li>
<li>[13:36] - Amber explains unique accessibility problems in WordPress.</li>
<li>[15:47] - How Equalize Digital's plug-in audits WordPress sites.</li>
<li>[21:55] - Amber's thoughts on how to make accessibility a priority.</li>
<li>[35:33] - Chuck and Amber talk about RV life and being on the show, "Going RV".</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[08:43] - "I think the recent number that I saw was that 43% of websites are built in WordPress." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]</p>
<p>[23:53] - "I feel like having more general visibility about the broad range of disabilities and also putting people's faces to things is super helpful." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]</p>
<p>[28:33] - "Companies need to realize that accessibility is everyone's responsibility." ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Amber Hinds LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]</li>
<li>Amber Hinds Twitter [https://mobile.twitter.com/heyamberhinds]</li>
<li>Amber Hinds [https://amberhinds.com/]</li>
<li>Equalize Digital [https://equalizedigital.com/]</li>
<li>WordPress [https://wordpress.com/]</li>
<li>Accessibility Checker [https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/]</li>
<li>Weller Special Reserve [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-special-reserve.html]</li>
<li>Pappy Van Winkle [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html]</li>
<li>Maker's Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Absolut Vodka [https://www.absolut.com/]</li>
<li>Shopify [https://www.shopify.com/]</li>
<li>Square Space [https://www.squarespace.com/]</li>
<li>Drupal [https://www.drupal.org/]</li>
<li>Matt Mullenweg [https://ma.tt/]</li>
<li>Automattic [https://automattic.com/]</li>
<li>Magic Mouse [https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2E3AM/A/magic-mouse-white-multi-touch-surface]</li>
<li>Logitech Lift [https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html]</li>
<li>Mac [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]</li>
<li>Darci USB [https://www.specialneedscomputers.ca/index.php?l=product_detail&amp;p=4948]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A11y Hour with Amber Hinds</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ej2y750g7h0sc7fruxntnu18/kswqbjvxuyqc3slvexildtt0.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3360</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;WordPress powers over 43% of sites on the internet today, making it a powerhouse web technology. Its simplicity attracted bloggers and do-it-yourselfers who navigate the platform by Googling code snippets. That knowledge gap comes with a whole host of accessibility issues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amber Hinds, Founder and CEO at Equalize Digital, quit her part-time gig as a freelance developer when she found WordPress was an easier way to manage content. She&#39;s been doing accessibility work on the platform since 2016 and has seen a boom in the past two years of companies searching for accessibility experts. Amber built the Accessibility Checker plugin as a guardrail to help DIYers avoid common mistakes by auditing a site and flagging accessibility issues. The plugin is also an education tool for content managers, and developers to learn about accessibility.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Amber talks to Chuck and Robbie about web accessibility on WordPress, making accessibility a priority in colleges and boot camps, and RVing around the country with her family.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An intro to Amber Hinds.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:54] - A whiskey review - Weller Special Reserve.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:49] - What it&#39;s like working with WordPress in 2022 compared to earlier years.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:47] - Amber gives an overview of WordPress.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:36] - Amber explains unique accessibility problems in WordPress.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:47] - How Equalize Digital&#39;s plug-in audits WordPress sites.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:55] - Amber&#39;s thoughts on how to make accessibility a priority.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:33] - Chuck and Amber talk about RV life and being on the show, &#34;Going RV&#34;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:43] - &#34;I think the recent number that I saw was that 43% of websites are built in WordPress.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:53] - &#34;I feel like having more general visibility about the broad range of disabilities and also putting people&#39;s faces to things is super helpful.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:33] - &#34;Companies need to realize that accessibility is everyone&#39;s responsibility.&#34; ~ Amber Hinds [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberhinds/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds Twitter [https://mobile.twitter.com/heyamberhinds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amber Hinds [https://amberhinds.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Equalize Digital [https://equalizedigital.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress [https://wordpress.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility Checker [https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weller Special Reserve [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-special-reserve.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/van-winkle.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Absolut Vodka [https://www.absolut.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shopify [https://www.shopify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Square Space [https://www.squarespace.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Drupal [https://www.drupal.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Mullenweg [https://ma.tt/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Automattic [https://automattic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Magic Mouse [https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2E3AM/A/magic-mouse-white-multi-touch-surface]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Logitech Lift [https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/lift-vertical-ergonomic-mouse.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darci USB [https://www.specialneedscomputers.ca/index.php?l=product_detail&amp;amp;p=4948]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ej2y750g7h0sc7fruxntnu18/j5wnjjyvs72c194tgo2lifp5/transcoded-01KECKDDD5SDDXCMTHX2C3HJXT-01KECKDDD5FNKAAVFN63H96MJV_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Funding Open Source Projects, Leaving Homebrew, and Launching Tea with Max Howell</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Working on open source projects is a largely thankless job and a labor of love. The developers behind these projects often juggle full-time jobs to pay their bills while maintaining the software that keeps so much of the internet afloat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Max Howell, CEO of tea.inc., pivoted from chemistry to web development because of his fascination for open source. He worked full-time and did pull requests for Homebrew during his free time. After hustling to build a package manager used by engineers working for corporate giants like Google and Microsoft, he reached an inevitable burnout. Max created tea.inc. to fairly compensate open source developers for the work they do with the hope that open source work will be lucrative and sustainable full-time. The project has raised 18 million so far and it&#39;s set to launch in early November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Max talks to Chuck and Robbie about the burnout of working on underfunded open source projects, why he left Homebrew despite its success, and launching tea.inc. as a Web3 solution for funding open source.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:21] - An introduction to Max Howell.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:15] - A whiskey review - American Highway Reserve Bourbon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:18] - Max&#39;s new project, tea.inc.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:21] - Max speaks about England.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:12] - Max discusses his U.S. journey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:28] - Why Google turned down Max.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:15] - &#34;I look back on the iPhone as the pivotal moment, really, when development suddenly became cool.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:27]- &#34;I had a moment of inspiration where I could see how the open source ecosystem, with all its dependencies and all these packages could be similarly compensated.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:50] - &#34;The bottom fell out of the boot camp market because it was a bit of a scam in some ways. You can&#39;t learn to program in 10 weeks is the truth of it.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Max Howell [https://mxcl.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Max Howell Twitter [https://twitter.com/mxcl]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MaxHowell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tea.xyz [https://tea.xyz/https://tea.xyz/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew [https://brew.sh/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [https://www.microsoft.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;American Highway Reserve [https://seelbachs.com/products/american-highway-reserve]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&#39;s Ocean [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-bourbon/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sacred Stave [https://santanspirits.com/santan-spirits/sacred-stave-bourbon/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Russell Crowe [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000128/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac  [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windows [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux [https://www.linux.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore [https://www.nativespiritsonline.com/products/sagamore-signature-rye]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone [https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PromiseKit [https://github.com/PromiseKit]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Timothy Lewis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothytlewis]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev/guide/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [https://slack.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heineken [https://www.heineken.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [https://www.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weather.com [https://weather.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Zuckerburg [https://www.instagram.com/zuck/?hl=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple [https://www.apple.com/store]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">23b82d00-5ab7-11ed-ad8c-b754e495eeca</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/om5bi0mfmcfq6d9j59j8auhc.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working on open source projects is a largely thankless job and a labor of love. The developers behind these projects often juggle full-time jobs to pay their bills while maintaining the software that keeps so much of the internet afloat.</p>
<p>Max Howell, CEO of tea.inc., pivoted from chemistry to web development because of his fascination for open source. He worked full-time and did pull requests for Homebrew during his free time. After hustling to build a package manager used by engineers working for corporate giants like Google and Microsoft, he reached an inevitable burnout. Max created tea.inc. to fairly compensate open source developers for the work they do with the hope that open source work will be lucrative and sustainable full-time. The project has raised 18 million so far and it's set to launch in early November.</p>
<p>In this episode, Max talks to Chuck and Robbie about the burnout of working on underfunded open source projects, why he left Homebrew despite its success, and launching tea.inc. as a Web3 solution for funding open source.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:21] - An introduction to Max Howell.</li>
<li>[01:15] - A whiskey review - American Highway Reserve Bourbon.</li>
<li>[07:18] - Max's new project, tea.inc.</li>
<li>[26:21] - Max speaks about England.</li>
<li>[32:12] - Max discusses his U.S. journey.</li>
<li>[33:28] - Why Google turned down Max.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[08:15] - "I look back on the iPhone as the pivotal moment, really, when development suddenly became cool." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]</p>
<p>[13:27]- "I had a moment of inspiration where I could see how the open source ecosystem, with all its dependencies and all these packages could be similarly compensated." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]</p>
<p>[22:50] - "The bottom fell out of the boot camp market because it was a bit of a scam in some ways. You can't learn to program in 10 weeks is the truth of it." ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Max Howell [https://mxcl.dev/]</li>
<li>Max Howell Twitter [https://twitter.com/mxcl]</li>
<li>MaxHowell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]</li>
<li>Tea.xyz [https://tea.xyz/https://tea.xyz/]</li>
<li>Homebrew [https://brew.sh/]</li>
<li>Microsoft [https://www.microsoft.com/]</li>
<li>American Highway Reserve [https://seelbachs.com/products/american-highway-reserve]</li>
<li>Jefferson's Ocean [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-bourbon/]</li>
<li>Sacred Stave [https://santanspirits.com/santan-spirits/sacred-stave-bourbon/]</li>
<li>Russell Crowe [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000128/]</li>
<li>Mac  [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]</li>
<li>Windows [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows]</li>
<li>Linux [https://www.linux.org/]</li>
<li>Sagamore [https://www.nativespiritsonline.com/products/sagamore-signature-rye]</li>
<li>iPhone [https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/]</li>
<li>PromiseKit [https://github.com/PromiseKit]</li>
<li>Timothy Lewis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothytlewis]</li>
<li>Faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev/guide/]</li>
<li>GitHub [https://github.com/]</li>
<li>Slack [https://slack.com/]</li>
<li>Heineken [https://www.heineken.com/]</li>
<li>Google [https://www.google.com/]</li>
<li>Twitter [https://twitter.com/]</li>
<li>Weather.com [https://weather.com/]</li>
<li>Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]</li>
<li>Mark Zuckerburg [https://www.instagram.com/zuck/?hl=en]</li>
<li>Apple [https://www.apple.com/store]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Funding Open Source Projects, Leaving Homebrew, and Launching Tea with Max Howell</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/om5bi0mfmcfq6d9j59j8auhc/tmnrgi81zbuytoym0cux4piv.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3484</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Working on open source projects is a largely thankless job and a labor of love. The developers behind these projects often juggle full-time jobs to pay their bills while maintaining the software that keeps so much of the internet afloat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Max Howell, CEO of tea.inc., pivoted from chemistry to web development because of his fascination for open source. He worked full-time and did pull requests for Homebrew during his free time. After hustling to build a package manager used by engineers working for corporate giants like Google and Microsoft, he reached an inevitable burnout. Max created tea.inc. to fairly compensate open source developers for the work they do with the hope that open source work will be lucrative and sustainable full-time. The project has raised 18 million so far and it&#39;s set to launch in early November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Max talks to Chuck and Robbie about the burnout of working on underfunded open source projects, why he left Homebrew despite its success, and launching tea.inc. as a Web3 solution for funding open source.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:21] - An introduction to Max Howell.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:15] - A whiskey review - American Highway Reserve Bourbon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:18] - Max&#39;s new project, tea.inc.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:21] - Max speaks about England.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:12] - Max discusses his U.S. journey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:28] - Why Google turned down Max.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:15] - &#34;I look back on the iPhone as the pivotal moment, really, when development suddenly became cool.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:27]- &#34;I had a moment of inspiration where I could see how the open source ecosystem, with all its dependencies and all these packages could be similarly compensated.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:50] - &#34;The bottom fell out of the boot camp market because it was a bit of a scam in some ways. You can&#39;t learn to program in 10 weeks is the truth of it.&#34; ~ Max Howell [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Max Howell [https://mxcl.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Max Howell Twitter [https://twitter.com/mxcl]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MaxHowell LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mxcl]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tea.xyz [https://tea.xyz/https://tea.xyz/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew [https://brew.sh/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [https://www.microsoft.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;American Highway Reserve [https://seelbachs.com/products/american-highway-reserve]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&#39;s Ocean [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-bourbon/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sacred Stave [https://santanspirits.com/santan-spirits/sacred-stave-bourbon/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Russell Crowe [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000128/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mac  [https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Windows [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux [https://www.linux.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore [https://www.nativespiritsonline.com/products/sagamore-signature-rye]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone [https://www.apple.com/lae/iphone/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PromiseKit [https://github.com/PromiseKit]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Timothy Lewis [https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothytlewis]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev/guide/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [https://slack.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heineken [https://www.heineken.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [https://www.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weather.com [https://weather.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Zuckerburg [https://www.instagram.com/zuck/?hl=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple [https://www.apple.com/store]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/om5bi0mfmcfq6d9j59j8auhc/zlybkv12344igvdm8t16remw/transcoded-01KECKDE6W21E3PFHCWBN8P4A3-01KECKDE6WPPKAY129SKAMR4WH_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Multi-Page Apps, Prefetch vs Preload, and Web Nostalgia</title><description>&lt;p&gt;While multi-page apps (MPAs) seem like a new fixation for the developer community, they&#39;re pretty ancient news. If you were browsing the web in the 90s, you were likely visiting a multi-page app. Lucky for us, web tech improved, and made the entire experience of multi-page apps more appealing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the cons of MPAs is that they don&#39;t have preload and prefetch out of the box. Single-page apps (SPAs) on the other hand give you the power to decide how your site loads by loading all the resources for your current page and fetching resources for a page you might navigate to after. This might seem small but it makes a huge impact on your site. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good news is, more computing power gave way to better server-rendered technology, a huge win for multi-page apps. Unlike single-page apps (SPAs), multi-page apps parse very little JavaScript. That shaves seconds off your initial load which is no small feat. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of multi-page apps, the benefits and the distinction between prefetch vs preload, and the good old days on the internet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:10] - A whiskey review - Wolves Signature Blend Special Release.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:02] - Chuck and Robbie discuss multi-page apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:46] - Advantages and disadvantages of multi-page apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:13] - Robbie&#39;s opinion on the React Framework.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:47] - Chuck and Robbie reminisce about StumbleUpon and earlier social media sites.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss their parents&#39; internet use.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:30] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their weekend.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[8:15] - &#34;Were you around in 1998 when the Internet was first blowing up? You were also on a multi-page app. It was just served by different technologies.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:56] - &#34;Just HTML is actually pretty good, and it feels like people getting into the industry these days aren&#39;t getting exposed to it enough.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:29] - &#34;I&#39;m sorry for all of our Ember listeners who are here to listen to me talk about good things about Ember, but the new add-on V2 stuff is some bullshit.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wolves Whiskey [https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt JS [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StumbleUpon [https://www.stumbleupon.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pam [https://www.pamcookingspray.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Office [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit [https://orbit.love/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta [https://about.meta.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Pack [https://webpack.js.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://dev.to/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Null Vox [https://nullvoxpopuli.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gateway [https://www.gateway.com/worldwide/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Digg [https://digg.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tik Tok [https://www.tiktok.com/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CNet [https://www.cnet.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IRS [https://www.irs.gov/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Download.com [https://www.download.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla [https://www.tesla.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">22d419a6-5488-11ed-8ab7-8729cc413b40</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/r1b7wb2cm9fyuuyvpyyahol2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While multi-page apps (MPAs) seem like a new fixation for the developer community, they're pretty ancient news. If you were browsing the web in the 90s, you were likely visiting a multi-page app. Lucky for us, web tech improved, and made the entire experience of multi-page apps more appealing.</p>
<p>One of the cons of MPAs is that they don't have preload and prefetch out of the box. Single-page apps (SPAs) on the other hand give you the power to decide how your site loads by loading all the resources for your current page and fetching resources for a page you might navigate to after. This might seem small but it makes a huge impact on your site. </p>
<p>The good news is, more computing power gave way to better server-rendered technology, a huge win for multi-page apps. Unlike single-page apps (SPAs), multi-page apps parse very little JavaScript. That shaves seconds off your initial load which is no small feat. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of multi-page apps, the benefits and the distinction between prefetch vs preload, and the good old days on the internet.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[02:10] - A whiskey review - Wolves Signature Blend Special Release.</li>
<li>[08:02] - Chuck and Robbie discuss multi-page apps.</li>
<li>[13:46] - Advantages and disadvantages of multi-page apps.</li>
<li>[27:13] - Robbie's opinion on the React Framework.  </li>
<li>[35:47] - Chuck and Robbie reminisce about StumbleUpon and earlier social media sites.</li>
<li>[41:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss their parents' internet use.</li>
<li>[44:30] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their weekend.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[8:15] - "Were you around in 1998 when the Internet was first blowing up? You were also on a multi-page app. It was just served by different technologies." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[10:56] - "Just HTML is actually pretty good, and it feels like people getting into the industry these days aren't getting exposed to it enough." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[29:29] - "I'm sorry for all of our Ember listeners who are here to listen to me talk about good things about Ember, but the new add-on V2 stuff is some bullshit." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Wolves Whiskey [https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Nuxt JS [https://nuxtjs.org/]</li>
<li>Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build/]</li>
<li>Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]</li>
<li>StumbleUpon [https://www.stumbleupon.com/]</li>
<li>Pam [https://www.pamcookingspray.com/]</li>
<li>The Office [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/]</li>
<li>GitHub [https://github.com/]</li>
<li>Orbit [https://orbit.love/]</li>
<li>Preact [https://preactjs.com/]</li>
<li>Meta [https://about.meta.com/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>Web Pack [https://webpack.js.org/]</li>
<li>Chris Manson [https://dev.to/real_ate]</li>
<li>Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]</li>
<li>Null Vox [https://nullvoxpopuli.com/]</li>
<li>Gateway [https://www.gateway.com/worldwide/]</li>
<li>Digg [https://digg.com/]</li>
<li>Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/]</li>
<li>Tik Tok [https://www.tiktok.com/en/]</li>
<li>CNet [https://www.cnet.com/]</li>
<li>IRS [https://www.irs.gov/]</li>
<li>Download.com [https://www.download.com/]</li>
<li>Tesla [https://www.tesla.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Multi-Page Apps, Prefetch vs Preload, and Web Nostalgia</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r1b7wb2cm9fyuuyvpyyahol2/sl7o2gsjk69brhel9sshcsco.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3641</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;While multi-page apps (MPAs) seem like a new fixation for the developer community, they&#39;re pretty ancient news. If you were browsing the web in the 90s, you were likely visiting a multi-page app. Lucky for us, web tech improved, and made the entire experience of multi-page apps more appealing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the cons of MPAs is that they don&#39;t have preload and prefetch out of the box. Single-page apps (SPAs) on the other hand give you the power to decide how your site loads by loading all the resources for your current page and fetching resources for a page you might navigate to after. This might seem small but it makes a huge impact on your site. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good news is, more computing power gave way to better server-rendered technology, a huge win for multi-page apps. Unlike single-page apps (SPAs), multi-page apps parse very little JavaScript. That shaves seconds off your initial load which is no small feat. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of multi-page apps, the benefits and the distinction between prefetch vs preload, and the good old days on the internet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:10] - A whiskey review - Wolves Signature Blend Special Release.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:02] - Chuck and Robbie discuss multi-page apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:46] - Advantages and disadvantages of multi-page apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:13] - Robbie&#39;s opinion on the React Framework.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:47] - Chuck and Robbie reminisce about StumbleUpon and earlier social media sites.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss their parents&#39; internet use.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:30] - Chuck and Robbie talk about their weekend.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[8:15] - &#34;Were you around in 1998 when the Internet was first blowing up? You were also on a multi-page app. It was just served by different technologies.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:56] - &#34;Just HTML is actually pretty good, and it feels like people getting into the industry these days aren&#39;t getting exposed to it enough.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:29] - &#34;I&#39;m sorry for all of our Ember listeners who are here to listen to me talk about good things about Ember, but the new add-on V2 stuff is some bullshit.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wolves Whiskey [https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt JS [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StumbleUpon [https://www.stumbleupon.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pam [https://www.pamcookingspray.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Office [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386676/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit [https://orbit.love/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meta [https://about.meta.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web Pack [https://webpack.js.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://dev.to/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Null Vox [https://nullvoxpopuli.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gateway [https://www.gateway.com/worldwide/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Digg [https://digg.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit [https://www.reddit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tik Tok [https://www.tiktok.com/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CNet [https://www.cnet.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IRS [https://www.irs.gov/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Download.com [https://www.download.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tesla [https://www.tesla.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r1b7wb2cm9fyuuyvpyyahol2/eccms6aaibiuomofrqw87hta/transcoded-01KECKDFD4ZSMWMTHQRADS8PJP-01KECKDFD4X5VWRTDY7NGTPV23_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tailwind CSS, Headless UI, and Powerlifting with Adam Wathan</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Maintaining a CSS codebase can become chaotic pretty quickly and building a new stylesheet for every project can get tedious. Frameworks like Tailwind CSS were born to solve this problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Adam Wathan, CEO of Tailwind Labs, built a &#34;library-style CSS&#34; for personal use and had no idea the concept would resonate with as many people as it did. When developers started asking him to share his library for them to use in their own projects, he got to work building out the framework. Two years after Tailwind CSS&#39;s launch, Adam released Headless UI to bring unstyled compatible UI components into the fold. Since then, it&#39;s sparked polarizing discourse between developers who either love it or hate it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Adam about what motivated him to create Tailwind CSS, how Headless UI was born, why Tailwind is creating polarizing discourse among developers, and his powerlifting past.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An introduction to Adam Wathan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:55] - A whiskey review - W3WC Sagamore Rye Barrel Pick #001.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:51] - Adam explains Tailwind CSS.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:47] - The problems that inspired Adam to create Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:24] - How Headless UI fits into Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:09] - Whether Tailwind will support other frameworks in the future.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:33] - Adam&#39;s powerlifting career.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:47] - &#34;I started noticing that the only things that really survived every port were the things that were lower and lower level. Something like a class that adds margin left to something that&#39;s useful in every project, but a button might look different in every project.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:40] - &#34;The main problem that Tailwind is ultimately trying to solve is giving inline style superpowers. It&#39;s not like inline styles are evil, it&#39;s like inline styles are awesome. Let&#39;s make them super awesome.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:10] - &#34;To me, Tailwind is basically inline styles with a bunch of extra power bolted on.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan [https://adamwathan.me/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan Twitter [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-wathan-9418984a/?originalSubdomain=ca]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS [https://tailwindcss.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind UI [https://tailwindui.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS Zen Garden [http://www.csszengarden.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicolas Gallagher [https://nicolasgallagher.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Normalize CSS [https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bootstrap [https://getbootstrap.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel [https://laravel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside [https://www.npmjs.com/~riverside]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stimulus [https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/reference/css-classes]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Select2 [https://select2.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BEM [https://getbem.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atomic CSS [https://acss.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Markdown [https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Headless UI [https://headlessui.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Select2 [https://select2.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caleb Porzio [https://calebporzio.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alpine JS [https://alpinejs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid JS [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c4240eca-4ef1-11ed-b56c-bfe110d10805</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/npbsfavln3vac48hiohzgquq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maintaining a CSS codebase can become chaotic pretty quickly and building a new stylesheet for every project can get tedious. Frameworks like Tailwind CSS were born to solve this problem.</p>
<p>Adam Wathan, CEO of Tailwind Labs, built a "library-style CSS" for personal use and had no idea the concept would resonate with as many people as it did. When developers started asking him to share his library for them to use in their own projects, he got to work building out the framework. Two years after Tailwind CSS's launch, Adam released Headless UI to bring unstyled compatible UI components into the fold. Since then, it's sparked polarizing discourse between developers who either love it or hate it. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Adam about what motivated him to create Tailwind CSS, how Headless UI was born, why Tailwind is creating polarizing discourse among developers, and his powerlifting past.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:35] - An introduction to Adam Wathan.</li>
<li>[01:55] - A whiskey review - W3WC Sagamore Rye Barrel Pick #001.</li>
<li>[06:51] - Adam explains Tailwind CSS.</li>
<li>[09:47] - The problems that inspired Adam to create Tailwind.</li>
<li>[35:24] - How Headless UI fits into Tailwind.</li>
<li>[41:09] - Whether Tailwind will support other frameworks in the future.</li>
<li>[44:33] - Adam's powerlifting career.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[16:47] - "I started noticing that the only things that really survived every port were the things that were lower and lower level. Something like a class that adds margin left to something that's useful in every project, but a button might look different in every project." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]</p>
<p>[23:40] - "The main problem that Tailwind is ultimately trying to solve is giving inline style superpowers. It's not like inline styles are evil, it's like inline styles are awesome. Let's make them super awesome." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]</p>
<p>[24:10] - "To me, Tailwind is basically inline styles with a bunch of extra power bolted on." ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Adam Wathan [https://adamwathan.me/]</li>
<li>Adam Wathan Twitter [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]</li>
<li>Adam Wathan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-wathan-9418984a/?originalSubdomain=ca]</li>
<li>Tailwind CSS [https://tailwindcss.com/]</li>
<li>Tailwind UI [https://tailwindui.com/]</li>
<li>Discord [https://discord.com/]</li>
<li>CSS Zen Garden [http://www.csszengarden.com/]</li>
<li>Nicolas Gallagher [https://nicolasgallagher.com/]</li>
<li>Normalize CSS [https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/]</li>
<li>Bootstrap [https://getbootstrap.com/]</li>
<li>Laravel [https://laravel.com/]</li>
<li>Vue [https://vuejs.org/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Riverside [https://www.npmjs.com/~riverside]</li>
<li>Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]</li>
<li>Stimulus [https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/reference/css-classes]</li>
<li>Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]</li>
<li>Select2 [https://select2.org/]</li>
<li>BEM [https://getbem.com/]</li>
<li>Atomic CSS [https://acss.io/]</li>
<li>Markdown [https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax]</li>
<li>Headless UI [https://headlessui.com/]</li>
<li>Select2 [https://select2.org/]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]</li>
<li>Caleb Porzio [https://calebporzio.com/]</li>
<li>Alpine JS [https://alpinejs.dev/]</li>
<li>Solid JS [https://www.solidjs.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tailwind CSS, Headless UI, and Powerlifting with Adam Wathan</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/npbsfavln3vac48hiohzgquq/yxy809r4cvjqrcwlo34kfe3t.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3299</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Maintaining a CSS codebase can become chaotic pretty quickly and building a new stylesheet for every project can get tedious. Frameworks like Tailwind CSS were born to solve this problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Adam Wathan, CEO of Tailwind Labs, built a &#34;library-style CSS&#34; for personal use and had no idea the concept would resonate with as many people as it did. When developers started asking him to share his library for them to use in their own projects, he got to work building out the framework. Two years after Tailwind CSS&#39;s launch, Adam released Headless UI to bring unstyled compatible UI components into the fold. Since then, it&#39;s sparked polarizing discourse between developers who either love it or hate it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Adam about what motivated him to create Tailwind CSS, how Headless UI was born, why Tailwind is creating polarizing discourse among developers, and his powerlifting past.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:35] - An introduction to Adam Wathan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:55] - A whiskey review - W3WC Sagamore Rye Barrel Pick #001.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:51] - Adam explains Tailwind CSS.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:47] - The problems that inspired Adam to create Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:24] - How Headless UI fits into Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:09] - Whether Tailwind will support other frameworks in the future.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:33] - Adam&#39;s powerlifting career.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:47] - &#34;I started noticing that the only things that really survived every port were the things that were lower and lower level. Something like a class that adds margin left to something that&#39;s useful in every project, but a button might look different in every project.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:40] - &#34;The main problem that Tailwind is ultimately trying to solve is giving inline style superpowers. It&#39;s not like inline styles are evil, it&#39;s like inline styles are awesome. Let&#39;s make them super awesome.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:10] - &#34;To me, Tailwind is basically inline styles with a bunch of extra power bolted on.&#34; ~ Adam Wathan [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan [https://adamwathan.me/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan Twitter [https://twitter.com/adamwathan]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adam Wathan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-wathan-9418984a/?originalSubdomain=ca]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind CSS [https://tailwindcss.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tailwind UI [https://tailwindui.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS Zen Garden [http://www.csszengarden.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nicolas Gallagher [https://nicolasgallagher.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Normalize CSS [https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bootstrap [https://getbootstrap.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laravel [https://laravel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Riverside [https://www.npmjs.com/~riverside]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stimulus [https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/reference/css-classes]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Select2 [https://select2.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BEM [https://getbem.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atomic CSS [https://acss.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Markdown [https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Headless UI [https://headlessui.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Select2 [https://select2.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caleb Porzio [https://calebporzio.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alpine JS [https://alpinejs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid JS [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/npbsfavln3vac48hiohzgquq/roozuev1f0uu0shgb7rmkimo/transcoded-01KECKDF56VAHNE0H3VW2YFMAD-01KECKDF563BST9M0ZFVF010DG_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Native Apps, Progressive Web Apps, and Media Monopolies</title><description>&lt;p&gt;There&#39;s a lot to consider before committing to a framework to build a native app. If you choose to build in native, ask yourself whether you&#39;re prepared to handle the downsides that come with it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To start, you&#39;re limited to one framework and writing in one programming language. If you&#39;re not familiar with the syntax, that could pose a major learning curve. With native apps, it&#39;s tempting to have a separate app for every device that a user might run your app on, but on the operations front, that&#39;s a slippery slope with high overhead costs. If you&#39;re on a tight budget or working on small teams like Chuck and Robbie, the cost of paying developers to maintain a bunch of apps isn&#39;t appealing. There&#39;s no shame in knowing your resource limitations and taking the easy route. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the trade-off between building native apps in Swift, Objective-C, React Native, and other web technologies, why they enjoy progressive web apps, and Disney&#39;s monopoly in media. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey Review - Four Roses Small Batch Select.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:11] - Chuck and Robbie discuss building apps in different frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:58] - Chuck and Robbie talk about progressive web apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:54] - TV Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[51:46] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s Halloween plans.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[03:16] - &#34;It&#39;s crazy how no one has money because of the recession, and yet everything that you could possibly buy is super expensive and sold out all the time. It doesn&#39;t make sense.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:04] - &#34;You feel like businesses don&#39;t feel like they have a presence unless they&#39;re in the App Store.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[25:05] - &#34;The one thing that has been that I&#39;ve used as a progressive web app that&#39;s worked well is Google Photos.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Four Roses Bourbon Small Batch Select [https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/small-batch-select/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco [https://www.costco.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WhistlePig Rye Whiskey [https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;White Dog Distilling [https://www.whitedogdistilling.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Android [https://www.android.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone [https://www.apple.com/iphone/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Flutter [https://flutter.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [https://www.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iOS [https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Native [https://reactnative.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Expo [https://expo.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Capacitor [https://capacitorjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electron [https://www.electronjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Samsung [https://www.samsung.com/us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roku [https://www.roku.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPad [https://www.apple.com/ipad/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple [https://www.apple.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hulu [https://www.hulu.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wuf.plus [https://wuf.plus/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://www.astro.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON API [https://jsonapi.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;American Horror Story [https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-horror-story]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c64adefe-4a32-11ed-bfe7-f3d0035981dc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qdu55irks48l2e4umfajdl7x.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a lot to consider before committing to a framework to build a native app. If you choose to build in native, ask yourself whether you're prepared to handle the downsides that come with it.  </p>
<p>To start, you're limited to one framework and writing in one programming language. If you're not familiar with the syntax, that could pose a major learning curve. With native apps, it's tempting to have a separate app for every device that a user might run your app on, but on the operations front, that's a slippery slope with high overhead costs. If you're on a tight budget or working on small teams like Chuck and Robbie, the cost of paying developers to maintain a bunch of apps isn't appealing. There's no shame in knowing your resource limitations and taking the easy route. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the trade-off between building native apps in Swift, Objective-C, React Native, and other web technologies, why they enjoy progressive web apps, and Disney's monopoly in media. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[02:21] - A whiskey Review - Four Roses Small Batch Select.</li>
<li>[11:11] - Chuck and Robbie discuss building apps in different frameworks.</li>
<li>[22:58] - Chuck and Robbie talk about progressive web apps.</li>
<li>[34:54] - TV Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.</li>
<li>[51:46] - Chuck and Robbie's Halloween plans.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[03:16] - "It's crazy how no one has money because of the recession, and yet everything that you could possibly buy is super expensive and sold out all the time. It doesn't make sense." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[23:04] - "You feel like businesses don't feel like they have a presence unless they're in the App Store." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[25:05] - "The one thing that has been that I've used as a progressive web app that's worked well is Google Photos." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Four Roses Bourbon Small Batch Select [https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/small-batch-select/]</li>
<li>Costco [https://www.costco.com/]</li>
<li>WhistlePig Rye Whiskey [https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/]</li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com/]</li>
<li>White Dog Distilling [https://www.whitedogdistilling.com/]</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]</li>
<li>Android [https://www.android.com/]</li>
<li>Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>iPhone [https://www.apple.com/iphone/]</li>
<li>Flutter [https://flutter.dev/]</li>
<li>Google [https://www.google.com/]</li>
<li>iOS [https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16/]</li>
<li>React Native [https://reactnative.dev/]</li>
<li>Expo [https://expo.dev/]</li>
<li>Capacitor [https://capacitorjs.com/]</li>
<li>Electron [https://www.electronjs.org/]</li>
<li>Samsung [https://www.samsung.com/us/]</li>
<li>Roku [https://www.roku.com/]</li>
<li>NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]</li>
<li>iPad [https://www.apple.com/ipad/]</li>
<li>Apple [https://www.apple.com/]</li>
<li>Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]</li>
<li>Hulu [https://www.hulu.com/]</li>
<li>Wuf.plus [https://wuf.plus/]</li>
<li>Astro [https://www.astro.org/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>JSON API [https://jsonapi.org/]</li>
<li>Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]</li>
<li>American Horror Story [https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-horror-story]</li>
<li>Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Native Apps, Progressive Web Apps, and Media Monopolies</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qdu55irks48l2e4umfajdl7x/jbbkyxav3w3n0jydhbe3r33x.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3573</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;There&#39;s a lot to consider before committing to a framework to build a native app. If you choose to build in native, ask yourself whether you&#39;re prepared to handle the downsides that come with it.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To start, you&#39;re limited to one framework and writing in one programming language. If you&#39;re not familiar with the syntax, that could pose a major learning curve. With native apps, it&#39;s tempting to have a separate app for every device that a user might run your app on, but on the operations front, that&#39;s a slippery slope with high overhead costs. If you&#39;re on a tight budget or working on small teams like Chuck and Robbie, the cost of paying developers to maintain a bunch of apps isn&#39;t appealing. There&#39;s no shame in knowing your resource limitations and taking the easy route. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the trade-off between building native apps in Swift, Objective-C, React Native, and other web technologies, why they enjoy progressive web apps, and Disney&#39;s monopoly in media. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:21] - A whiskey Review - Four Roses Small Batch Select.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:11] - Chuck and Robbie discuss building apps in different frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:58] - Chuck and Robbie talk about progressive web apps.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:54] - TV Shows Chuck and Robbie are currently watching.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[51:46] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s Halloween plans.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[03:16] - &#34;It&#39;s crazy how no one has money because of the recession, and yet everything that you could possibly buy is super expensive and sold out all the time. It doesn&#39;t make sense.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:04] - &#34;You feel like businesses don&#39;t feel like they have a presence unless they&#39;re in the App Store.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[25:05] - &#34;The one thing that has been that I&#39;ve used as a progressive web app that&#39;s worked well is Google Photos.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Four Roses Bourbon Small Batch Select [https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/small-batch-select/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Costco [https://www.costco.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WhistlePig Rye Whiskey [https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;White Dog Distilling [https://www.whitedogdistilling.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Android [https://www.android.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone [https://www.apple.com/iphone/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Flutter [https://flutter.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [https://www.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iOS [https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-16/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Native [https://reactnative.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Expo [https://expo.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Capacitor [https://capacitorjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electron [https://www.electronjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Samsung [https://www.samsung.com/us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Roku [https://www.roku.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPad [https://www.apple.com/ipad/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple [https://www.apple.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome [https://www.google.com/chrome/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hulu [https://www.hulu.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wuf.plus [https://wuf.plus/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://www.astro.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON API [https://jsonapi.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;American Horror Story [https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/american-horror-story]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qdu55irks48l2e4umfajdl7x/xu9mtxwk2bnyrdtcjs7vlgmy/transcoded-01KECKDJE28ZA4TP0C8737EQ2S-01KECKDJE2RRHG3WE7TWRQEBXZ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>SolidJS: The Framework Creating a Buzz with Dan Jutan</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Every once in a while a new framework rises to popularity and gets the developer community buzzing. One of the frameworks with the most momentum right now is SolidJS. But what makes Solid so special?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan Jutan, Product Manager at Astro, Inc. and SolidJS core team member believes the frameworks that prioritize developer experience will always come out on top. Before he landed at Solid, Dan started his career using Vue 3. It didn&#39;t take long before he was overwhelmed by the API surface and was searching for a framework that aligned with his values as a developer. Solid has a reputation as one of the fastest frameworks and also combines features from frameworks like React and Vue without any of the issues that bog them down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Dan talks to Chuck and Robbie about his journey exploring different frameworks early in his career, why the developer community loves SolidJS, and the connection between being a programmer and a musician.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:59] - An intro to Dan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:55] - A whiskey review - Frey Ranch Bourban.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:01] - Dan explains Solid.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:27] - Why Dan prefers Solid over other frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:47] - Specific use cases for Solid.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:07] - How Dan connected Chuck and Robbie with Astro on Twitter.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:25] - Dan speaks about his music and Taylor Swift.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:00] - &#34;The special thing about Solid is that it combines something you might be used to from React, which is these functional JSX components, with something you might be used to in Vue 3 or even older frameworks.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:00] - &#34;With Solid I was just like, oh this simple thing from React without the annoying part of React. And with the simple thing from Vue, without the baggage from Vue.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:28] - &#34;If you&#39;re looking for a framework to run that interactive part of the page, Solid is a great choice because it&#39;s super small and super fast.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Jutan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Jutan Twitter [https://twitter.com/jutanium?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frey Ranch Bourbon [https://freyranch.com/straight-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Knockout JS [https://knockoutjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RX JS [https://rxjs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codemirror [https://codemirror.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid Start [https://docs.solidjs.com/start]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds [https://kentcdodds.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Paramore [https://www.paramore.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Panic! At The Disco [https://panicatthedisco.com/tour]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fall Out Boy [https://falloutboy.com/tour]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift [https://www.taylorswift.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8caaab3c-43f9-11ed-9abb-93ffb8f1fc48</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/kdkjhafdrsdswwbpu7i09tuu.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while a new framework rises to popularity and gets the developer community buzzing. One of the frameworks with the most momentum right now is SolidJS. But what makes Solid so special?</p>
<p>Dan Jutan, Product Manager at Astro, Inc. and SolidJS core team member believes the frameworks that prioritize developer experience will always come out on top. Before he landed at Solid, Dan started his career using Vue 3. It didn't take long before he was overwhelmed by the API surface and was searching for a framework that aligned with his values as a developer. Solid has a reputation as one of the fastest frameworks and also combines features from frameworks like React and Vue without any of the issues that bog them down.</p>
<p>In this episode, Dan talks to Chuck and Robbie about his journey exploring different frameworks early in his career, why the developer community loves SolidJS, and the connection between being a programmer and a musician.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:59] - An intro to Dan.</li>
<li>[02:55] - A whiskey review - Frey Ranch Bourban.</li>
<li>[09:01] - Dan explains Solid.</li>
<li>[14:27] - Why Dan prefers Solid over other frameworks.</li>
<li>[20:47] - Specific use cases for Solid.</li>
<li>[28:07] - How Dan connected Chuck and Robbie with Astro on Twitter.</li>
<li>[45:25] - Dan speaks about his music and Taylor Swift.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[10:00] - "The special thing about Solid is that it combines something you might be used to from React, which is these functional JSX components, with something you might be used to in Vue 3 or even older frameworks." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]</p>
<p>[14:00] - "With Solid I was just like, oh this simple thing from React without the annoying part of React. And with the simple thing from Vue, without the baggage from Vue." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]</p>
<p>[24:28] - "If you're looking for a framework to run that interactive part of the page, Solid is a great choice because it's super small and super fast." ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Dan Jutan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]</li>
<li>Dan Jutan Twitter [https://twitter.com/jutanium?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build/]</li>
<li>Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]</li>
<li>Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]</li>
<li>Frey Ranch Bourbon [https://freyranch.com/straight-bourbon-whiskey/]</li>
<li>Vue [https://vuejs.org/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Knockout JS [https://knockoutjs.com/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>RX JS [https://rxjs.dev/]</li>
<li>Preact [https://preactjs.com/]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]  </li>
<li>Codemirror [https://codemirror.net/]</li>
<li>Next [https://nextjs.org/]</li>
<li>Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run/]</li>
<li>Solid Start [https://docs.solidjs.com/start]</li>
<li>Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com/]</li>
<li>Kent C. Dodds [https://kentcdodds.com/]</li>
<li>Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>Paramore [https://www.paramore.net/]</li>
<li>Panic! At The Disco [https://panicatthedisco.com/tour]</li>
<li>Fall Out Boy [https://falloutboy.com/tour]</li>
<li>Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]</li>
<li>Taylor Swift [https://www.taylorswift.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>SolidJS: The Framework Creating a Buzz with Dan Jutan</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/kdkjhafdrsdswwbpu7i09tuu/vl32dfyomviqn4vc99o3915f.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3641</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Every once in a while a new framework rises to popularity and gets the developer community buzzing. One of the frameworks with the most momentum right now is SolidJS. But what makes Solid so special?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan Jutan, Product Manager at Astro, Inc. and SolidJS core team member believes the frameworks that prioritize developer experience will always come out on top. Before he landed at Solid, Dan started his career using Vue 3. It didn&#39;t take long before he was overwhelmed by the API surface and was searching for a framework that aligned with his values as a developer. Solid has a reputation as one of the fastest frameworks and also combines features from frameworks like React and Vue without any of the issues that bog them down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Dan talks to Chuck and Robbie about his journey exploring different frameworks early in his career, why the developer community loves SolidJS, and the connection between being a programmer and a musician.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:59] - An intro to Dan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:55] - A whiskey review - Frey Ranch Bourban.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:01] - Dan explains Solid.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:27] - Why Dan prefers Solid over other frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:47] - Specific use cases for Solid.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:07] - How Dan connected Chuck and Robbie with Astro on Twitter.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:25] - Dan speaks about his music and Taylor Swift.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:00] - &#34;The special thing about Solid is that it combines something you might be used to from React, which is these functional JSX components, with something you might be used to in Vue 3 or even older frameworks.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:00] - &#34;With Solid I was just like, oh this simple thing from React without the annoying part of React. And with the simple thing from Vue, without the baggage from Vue.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:28] - &#34;If you&#39;re looking for a framework to run that interactive part of the page, Solid is a great choice because it&#39;s super small and super fast.&#34; ~ Dan Jutan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Jutan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-jutan-5bb78222b/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Jutan Twitter [https://twitter.com/jutanium?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Game of Thrones [https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frey Ranch Bourbon [https://freyranch.com/straight-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Knockout JS [https://knockoutjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RX JS [https://rxjs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codemirror [https://codemirror.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [https://twitter.com/?lang=en]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid Start [https://docs.solidjs.com/start]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds [https://kentcdodds.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Paramore [https://www.paramore.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Panic! At The Disco [https://panicatthedisco.com/tour]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fall Out Boy [https://falloutboy.com/tour]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taylor Swift [https://www.taylorswift.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/kdkjhafdrsdswwbpu7i09tuu/fut748u0pvks1x9ln8kv79fp/transcoded-01KECKDF8T4KJY2J5FPS179C9W-01KECKDF8T3BEP6SK5TXMX7XE9_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Embracing New Tech, JavaScript, and the W3WC NFT Launch</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The beauty of tech is that it keeps evolving. As a developer, it&#39;s important to keep evolving too. Whether that&#39;s trying new frameworks, starting side projects, or adopting emerging tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JavaScript, for example, has taken on a whole new purpose since it was developed in the 90s to support a web browser. The language keeps developers like Robbie intrigued with features that seem underpromoted and underused by the community. At ShipShape, Chuck and Robbie are always experimenting. They&#39;re embracing Astro with plans to transition their website from Nuxt, developing a scheduling app, and most importantly they just launched the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about underrated JavaScript features, where to find the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT, and why Robbie can&#39;t decide on a new car.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Chuck and Robbie introduce their NFT.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[04:11] - A whiskey review - Starlight Distillery Single Barrel Hubbard&#39;s Original Rick House of Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:35] - The difference between Maps and Sets in JavaScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss a scheduling app they&#39;re developing.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:10] - Chuck and Robbie critique Solid, Astro, and React.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:02] - Robbie whatnots about Ciroc Vodka.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss streaming services, TV shows, and Ryan Reynolds.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:45] - What Robbie thinks about different trucks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:58] - &#34;Internally, we&#39;re known for some technologies, but we&#39;re always experimenting with different things coming up as much as we can.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[39:42] - &#34;So the cool thing about Astro is they have support for a lot of different types of frameworks like Vue, Preact, React, and Svelte. If it&#39;s a hot thing that someone has mentioned recently, they&#39;ve got it.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[41:44] - &#34;I think for people that like React and want something that&#39;s not React just because React is super old, you could try Solid out.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitski.com/Shipshapecode [https://www.bitski.com/@Shipshapecode/created]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Huber&#39;s Starlight Distillery Old Rickhouse Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey [https://www.huberwinery.com/product/old-rickhouse-rye-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach [https://seelbachs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Rye [https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oracle [https://www.oracle.com/id/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gerber [https://www.gerber.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hoover [https://hoover.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Men [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Doors [https://thedoors.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue 3 [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Expo [https://expo.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iOS [https://www.apple.com/lae/ios/ios-16/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cypress [https://www.cypress.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playwright [https://playwright.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacktoberfest [https://hacktoberfest.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dependabot [https://github.com/dependabot]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Digital Ocean [https://www.digitalocean.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier [https://chriscoyier.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8d450a1c-3e7f-11ed-b21e-232ee188a705</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/bpz3b19j4bfdziqcny01vpdc.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of tech is that it keeps evolving. As a developer, it's important to keep evolving too. Whether that's trying new frameworks, starting side projects, or adopting emerging tech.</p>
<p>JavaScript, for example, has taken on a whole new purpose since it was developed in the 90s to support a web browser. The language keeps developers like Robbie intrigued with features that seem underpromoted and underused by the community. At ShipShape, Chuck and Robbie are always experimenting. They're embracing Astro with plans to transition their website from Nuxt, developing a scheduling app, and most importantly they just launched the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about underrated JavaScript features, where to find the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT, and why Robbie can't decide on a new car.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:22] - Chuck and Robbie introduce their NFT.</li>
<li>[04:11] - A whiskey review - Starlight Distillery Single Barrel Hubbard's Original Rick House of Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey.</li>
<li>[09:35] - The difference between Maps and Sets in JavaScript.</li>
<li>[22:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss a scheduling app they're developing.</li>
<li>[36:10] - Chuck and Robbie critique Solid, Astro, and React.</li>
<li>[44:02] - Robbie whatnots about Ciroc Vodka.</li>
<li>[45:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss streaming services, TV shows, and Ryan Reynolds.</li>
<li>[52:45] - What Robbie thinks about different trucks.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[22:58] - "Internally, we're known for some technologies, but we're always experimenting with different things coming up as much as we can." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[39:42] - "So the cool thing about Astro is they have support for a lot of different types of frameworks like Vue, Preact, React, and Svelte. If it's a hot thing that someone has mentioned recently, they've got it." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[41:44] - "I think for people that like React and want something that's not React just because React is super old, you could try Solid out." ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Bitski.com/Shipshapecode [https://www.bitski.com/@Shipshapecode/created]</li>
<li>Huber's Starlight Distillery Old Rickhouse Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey [https://www.huberwinery.com/product/old-rickhouse-rye-whiskey/]</li>
<li>Seelbach [https://seelbachs.com/]</li>
<li>Sagamore Rye [https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>Oracle [https://www.oracle.com/id/]</li>
<li>Gerber [https://www.gerber.com/]</li>
<li>Hoover [https://hoover.com/]</li>
<li>Mad Men [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>The Doors [https://thedoors.com/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Vue 3 [https://vuejs.org/]</li>
<li>Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]</li>
<li>Expo [https://expo.dev/]</li>
<li>iOS [https://www.apple.com/lae/ios/ios-16/]</li>
<li>Jest [https://jestjs.io/]</li>
<li>Cypress [https://www.cypress.io/]</li>
<li>Playwright [https://playwright.dev/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>Hacktoberfest [https://hacktoberfest.com/]</li>
<li>Dependabot [https://github.com/dependabot]</li>
<li>Digital Ocean [https://www.digitalocean.com/]</li>
<li>Chris Coyier [https://chriscoyier.net/]</li>
<li>CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/]</li>
<li>CodePen [https://codepen.io/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Embracing New Tech, JavaScript, and the W3WC NFT Launch</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bpz3b19j4bfdziqcny01vpdc/ss12lf4okp2dup2lgunbumbw.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3586</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The beauty of tech is that it keeps evolving. As a developer, it&#39;s important to keep evolving too. Whether that&#39;s trying new frameworks, starting side projects, or adopting emerging tech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JavaScript, for example, has taken on a whole new purpose since it was developed in the 90s to support a web browser. The language keeps developers like Robbie intrigued with features that seem underpromoted and underused by the community. At ShipShape, Chuck and Robbie are always experimenting. They&#39;re embracing Astro with plans to transition their website from Nuxt, developing a scheduling app, and most importantly they just launched the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about underrated JavaScript features, where to find the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT, and why Robbie can&#39;t decide on a new car.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:22] - Chuck and Robbie introduce their NFT.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[04:11] - A whiskey review - Starlight Distillery Single Barrel Hubbard&#39;s Original Rick House of Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:35] - The difference between Maps and Sets in JavaScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:52] - Chuck and Robbie discuss a scheduling app they&#39;re developing.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:10] - Chuck and Robbie critique Solid, Astro, and React.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:02] - Robbie whatnots about Ciroc Vodka.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss streaming services, TV shows, and Ryan Reynolds.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:45] - What Robbie thinks about different trucks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:58] - &#34;Internally, we&#39;re known for some technologies, but we&#39;re always experimenting with different things coming up as much as we can.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[39:42] - &#34;So the cool thing about Astro is they have support for a lot of different types of frameworks like Vue, Preact, React, and Svelte. If it&#39;s a hot thing that someone has mentioned recently, they&#39;ve got it.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[41:44] - &#34;I think for people that like React and want something that&#39;s not React just because React is super old, you could try Solid out.&#34; ~ Robbie Wagner [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitski.com/Shipshapecode [https://www.bitski.com/@Shipshapecode/created]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Huber&#39;s Starlight Distillery Old Rickhouse Indiana Straight Rye Whiskey [https://www.huberwinery.com/product/old-rickhouse-rye-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach [https://seelbachs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Rye [https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Oracle [https://www.oracle.com/id/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gerber [https://www.gerber.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hoover [https://hoover.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mad Men [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804503/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Doors [https://thedoors.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue 3 [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Expo [https://expo.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iOS [https://www.apple.com/lae/ios/ios-16/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cypress [https://www.cypress.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Playwright [https://playwright.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacktoberfest [https://hacktoberfest.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dependabot [https://github.com/dependabot]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Digital Ocean [https://www.digitalocean.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Coyier [https://chriscoyier.net/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bpz3b19j4bfdziqcny01vpdc/ynpto6cexhgc26ln1e6cudet/transcoded-01KECKDJ8WWMC3RQHJW5GHHZW0-01KECKDJ8W8AEHS70Y4QQS220M_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Balancing Engineering Management, Side Hustles, and Porsches with Kelly Vaughn</title><description>&lt;p&gt;We all have at least one friend who somehow finds enough hours in a day to have a full-time job and take on several side projects. How can you successfully juggle a career, side hustles, and make time for your passions?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kelly Vaughn, Engineering Manager at Spot AI, has some thoughts. She is leading a diverse, fully remote, global team that spans from California to India. Kelly keeps her management style flexible to account for the quirks and personality types of her team. When she&#39;s not steering the ship at Spot AI, she&#39;s advising several startups and working as a consultant. Despite doing it all, she finds time for reading, cycling, and her passion for Porsches.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Kelly talks to Chuck and Robbie about her experience leading diverse global engineering teams from agencies to SaaS companies, juggling several side hustles, and collecting Porsches. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [01:22] - An intro to Kelly Vaughn. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [02:16] - A whiskey review - Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label Dovetail 15. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [09:07] - Kelly&#39;s current roles at Spot AI and her projects. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [12:23] - The difference between leading teams in an agency versus in a corporate environment. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [19:26] - What are the challenges of managing an international team? &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [22:26] - What&#39;s Kelly&#39;s favorite leadership book? &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [26:40] - Kelly speaks about her love of the Porsche Brand. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [44:25] - Kelly talks about her cycling challenge for childhood cancer research. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:37] - &#34;The speed at which you work at an agency versus a SaaS company is vastly different because of the way that you&#39;re working. You&#39;re working with multiple clients directly versus having any number of customers.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:26] - &#34;I think what&#39;s important to remember is when you&#39;re looking for metrics for growth, you need to look beyond just the quantitative metrics and really find a way to measure the qualitative metrics as well.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:59] - &#34;What I&#39;m doing to manage Team A is not going to be what I need to do to manage Team B. Finding out those differences and the personality quirks is what I&#39;ve been focusing on so I can make sure they get what they need, in the structure they need it.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spot AI [https://www.spot.ai/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/barrellcraftspirits]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sherwin Williams [https://www.sherwin-williams.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche [https://www.porsche.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Stag Jr [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/stagg/stagg-jr.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;First 90 Days [https://hbr.org/books/watkins]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acotar [https://www.goodreads.com/series/104014-a-court-of-thorns-and-roses]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Book of the Month [https://www.bookofthemonth.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barbarians at the Gate [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/781182.Barbarians_at_the_Gate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Big Short [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26889576-the-big-short]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael Lewis [https://www.michaellewiswrites.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Premonition [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56790170-the-premonition]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Five Dysfunctions of a Team [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21343.The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Team]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spanish Love Deception [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54189398-the-spanish-love-deception]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e0b3e612-38f5-11ed-bda5-afc19a1eed75</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lxmgn5wdyc6jqt4ijfbt542r.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all have at least one friend who somehow finds enough hours in a day to have a full-time job and take on several side projects. How can you successfully juggle a career, side hustles, and make time for your passions?
</p>
<p>
Kelly Vaughn, Engineering Manager at Spot AI, has some thoughts. She is leading a diverse, fully remote, global team that spans from California to India. Kelly keeps her management style flexible to account for the quirks and personality types of her team. When she's not steering the ship at Spot AI, she's advising several startups and working as a consultant. Despite doing it all, she finds time for reading, cycling, and her passion for Porsches.
</p>
<p>
In this episode, Kelly talks to Chuck and Robbie about her experience leading diverse global engineering teams from agencies to SaaS companies, juggling several side hustles, and collecting Porsches. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li> [01:22] - An intro to Kelly Vaughn. </li>
 <li> [02:16] - A whiskey review - Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label Dovetail 15. </li>
 <li> [09:07] - Kelly's current roles at Spot AI and her projects. </li>
 <li> [12:23] - The difference between leading teams in an agency versus in a corporate environment. </li>
 <li> [19:26] - What are the challenges of managing an international team? </li>
 <li> [22:26] - What's Kelly's favorite leadership book? </li>
 <li> [26:40] - Kelly speaks about her love of the Porsche Brand. </li>
 <li> [44:25] - Kelly talks about her cycling challenge for childhood cancer research. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[13:37] - "The speed at which you work at an agency versus a SaaS company is vastly different because of the way that you're working. You're working with multiple clients directly versus having any number of customers." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]</p>
<p>[16:26] - "I think what's important to remember is when you're looking for metrics for growth, you need to look beyond just the quantitative metrics and really find a way to measure the qualitative metrics as well." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]</p>
<p>[21:59] - "What I'm doing to manage Team A is not going to be what I need to do to manage Team B. Finding out those differences and the personality quirks is what I've been focusing on so I can make sure they get what they need, in the structure they need it." ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Kelly Vaughn Twitter [https://twitter.com/kvlly]</li>
<li>Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/]</li>
<li>Spot AI [https://www.spot.ai/]</li>
<li>Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/barrellcraftspirits]</li>
<li>Sherwin Williams [https://www.sherwin-williams.com/]</li>
<li>Porsche [https://www.porsche.com/]</li>
<li>George Stag Jr [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/stagg/stagg-jr.html]</li>
<li>First 90 Days [https://hbr.org/books/watkins]</li>
<li>Acotar [https://www.goodreads.com/series/104014-a-court-of-thorns-and-roses]</li>
<li>Book of the Month [https://www.bookofthemonth.com/]</li>
<li>Barbarians at the Gate [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/781182.Barbarians_at_the_Gate]</li>
<li>The Big Short [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26889576-the-big-short]</li>
<li>Michael Lewis [https://www.michaellewiswrites.com/]</li>
<li>The Premonition [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56790170-the-premonition]</li>
<li>The Five Dysfunctions of a Team [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21343.The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Team]</li>
<li>Spanish Love Deception [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54189398-the-spanish-love-deception]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Balancing Engineering Management, Side Hustles, and Porsches with Kelly Vaughn</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lxmgn5wdyc6jqt4ijfbt542r/v93iocuuzat6xelcy4t5qdho.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3480</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;We all have at least one friend who somehow finds enough hours in a day to have a full-time job and take on several side projects. How can you successfully juggle a career, side hustles, and make time for your passions?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kelly Vaughn, Engineering Manager at Spot AI, has some thoughts. She is leading a diverse, fully remote, global team that spans from California to India. Kelly keeps her management style flexible to account for the quirks and personality types of her team. When she&#39;s not steering the ship at Spot AI, she&#39;s advising several startups and working as a consultant. Despite doing it all, she finds time for reading, cycling, and her passion for Porsches.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Kelly talks to Chuck and Robbie about her experience leading diverse global engineering teams from agencies to SaaS companies, juggling several side hustles, and collecting Porsches. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [01:22] - An intro to Kelly Vaughn. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [02:16] - A whiskey review - Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label Dovetail 15. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [09:07] - Kelly&#39;s current roles at Spot AI and her projects. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [12:23] - The difference between leading teams in an agency versus in a corporate environment. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [19:26] - What are the challenges of managing an international team? &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [22:26] - What&#39;s Kelly&#39;s favorite leadership book? &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [26:40] - Kelly speaks about her love of the Porsche Brand. &lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt; [44:25] - Kelly talks about her cycling challenge for childhood cancer research. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:37] - &#34;The speed at which you work at an agency versus a SaaS company is vastly different because of the way that you&#39;re working. You&#39;re working with multiple clients directly versus having any number of customers.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:26] - &#34;I think what&#39;s important to remember is when you&#39;re looking for metrics for growth, you need to look beyond just the quantitative metrics and really find a way to measure the qualitative metrics as well.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:59] - &#34;What I&#39;m doing to manage Team A is not going to be what I need to do to manage Team B. Finding out those differences and the personality quirks is what I&#39;ve been focusing on so I can make sure they get what they need, in the structure they need it.&#34; ~ Kelly Vaughn [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn Twitter [https://twitter.com/kvlly]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kelly Vaughn LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughn/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spot AI [https://www.spot.ai/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barrell Craft Spirits Grey Label [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/barrellcraftspirits]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sherwin Williams [https://www.sherwin-williams.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche [https://www.porsche.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Stag Jr [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/stagg/stagg-jr.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;First 90 Days [https://hbr.org/books/watkins]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acotar [https://www.goodreads.com/series/104014-a-court-of-thorns-and-roses]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Book of the Month [https://www.bookofthemonth.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barbarians at the Gate [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/781182.Barbarians_at_the_Gate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Big Short [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26889576-the-big-short]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Michael Lewis [https://www.michaellewiswrites.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Premonition [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56790170-the-premonition]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Five Dysfunctions of a Team [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21343.The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Team]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spanish Love Deception [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54189398-the-spanish-love-deception]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lxmgn5wdyc6jqt4ijfbt542r/p1eadbfazhr0f5bbtpho7mpa/transcoded-01KECKDFDT0EX9PGKJ9PQF58RB-01KECKDFDTFNFN1VH265BH9P5Z_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A11y Hour with Crystal Preston-Watson</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Accessibility is like learning a new language, leaving many developers wondering where to start. The answer is pretty simple, start anywhere. But the onus isn’t all on devs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Crystal Preston-Watson has partial sight and uses a screen reader in her day-to-day as a Senior Digital Accessibility Analyst at Salesforce, one of the largest tech companies in the world. As strange as it may seem, she never used a screen reader until she was asked to test one out in her previous role as a quality engineer. Once she got her hands on one, she saw just how much businesses excluded people with disabilities from their target audience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Crystal knows first-hand how quickly the expenses rack up when the burden of accessibility is placed on people with disabilities. In her talks, she addresses this and other lessons on accessibility with a bit of humor to make the conversation more approachable and beginner-friendly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Crystal about pitching accessibility to higher-ups, the actual cost of accessibility, and her love for comedy and improv.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:31] - An intro to Crystal Preston-Watson.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:51] - A whiskey review - Johnny Drum Private Stock.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:51] - Crystal explains accessibility.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:08] - How to pitch accessibility to company leadership. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:42] - Crystal’s guide to setting accessibility targets within a company.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:24] - Crystal explains the cost and some of the challenges of being disabled.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:41] - Crystal talks about her love for video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Crystal talks about her love for improv.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:07] - “Accessibility is everyone&#39;s concern. There are some really specific things that only a developer or tester or content creator can do, but at the end of the day, it&#39;s a very holistic thing, and everyone needs to be concerned about it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:33] -&lt;strong&gt; “&lt;/strong&gt;If you have users that can&#39;t use your application, that is money wasted. And that&#39;s the thing, disabled people have money, and if they can&#39;t use your product then they&#39;re going to take that money somewhere else unless it is something that is very vital.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:11] - “Everyone will use a mouse if they&#39;re not blind and visually impaired and that&#39;s just not true.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://crystalprestonwatson.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalprestonwatson/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/johnny-drum-private-stock/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Johnny Drum Private Stock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salesforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://music.apple.com/us/album/wap-feat-megan-thee-stallion-single/1526746983&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cardi B Wap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472954/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;It&#39;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/software/jaws/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jaws Screen Reader&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ssa.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Social Security Administration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MacBook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nvaccess.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NVDA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sketch.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sketch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://code.visualstudio.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;VS Code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.figma.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Figma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Photoshop&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://hitman.com/global/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Hitman 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://yakuza.sega.com/lostjudgment/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lost Judgement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Skyrim&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps3/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PS3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/app/211600/Thief_Gold/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Thief Gold&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Breath of the Wild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nintendo.com/switch/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Switch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://offspringfling.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Offspring&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://screenrant.com/soulsborne-games-ranked-dark-souls-bloodborne-elden-ring/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Soulsborne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://store.steampowered.com/app/374320/DARK_SOULS_III/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Dark Souls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Elden Ring&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://stadia.google.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Stadia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://georgerrmartin.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;George R.R. Martin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288937/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Degrassi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.odysseyofthemind.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Odyssey of the Mind&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f9b9b1e4-342e-11ed-8b16-331e8bd6225b</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/uyozz2aue5g78metvt0hnh03.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accessibility is like learning a new language, leaving many developers wondering where to start. The answer is pretty simple, start anywhere. But the onus isn’t all on devs.</p>
<p>
Crystal Preston-Watson has partial sight and uses a screen reader in her day-to-day as a Senior Digital Accessibility Analyst at Salesforce, one of the largest tech companies in the world. As strange as it may seem, she never used a screen reader until she was asked to test one out in her previous role as a quality engineer. Once she got her hands on one, she saw just how much businesses excluded people with disabilities from their target audience.</p>
<p>
Crystal knows first-hand how quickly the expenses rack up when the burden of accessibility is placed on people with disabilities. In her talks, she addresses this and other lessons on accessibility with a bit of humor to make the conversation more approachable and beginner-friendly.</p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Crystal about pitching accessibility to higher-ups, the actual cost of accessibility, and her love for comedy and improv.
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[01:31] - An intro to Crystal Preston-Watson.
</li>
 <li>[02:51] - A whiskey review - Johnny Drum Private Stock.
</li>
  <li>[08:51] - Crystal explains accessibility.
</li>
  <li>[11:08] - How to pitch accessibility to company leadership. 
</li>
  <li>[20:42] - Crystal’s guide to setting accessibility targets within a company.
</li>
  <li>[30:24] - Crystal explains the cost and some of the challenges of being disabled.
</li>
  <li>[40:41] - Crystal talks about her love for video games.
</li>
  <li>[45:05] - Crystal talks about her love for improv.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[17:07] - “Accessibility is everyone's concern. There are some really specific things that only a developer or tester or content creator can do, but at the end of the day, it's a very holistic thing, and everyone needs to be concerned about it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson</a></p>
<p>
[21:33] -<strong> “</strong>If you have users that can't use your application, that is money wasted. And that's the thing, disabled people have money, and if they can't use your product then they're going to take that money somewhere else unless it is something that is very vital.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson</a></p>
<p>
[24:11] - “Everyone will use a mouse if they're not blind and visually impaired and that's just not true.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://crystalprestonwatson.com/" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalprestonwatson/" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer" target="_blank">Crystal Preston-Watson Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/johnny-drum-private-stock/" target="_blank">Johnny Drum Private Stock</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.salesforce.com/" target="_blank">Salesforce</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/wap-feat-megan-thee-stallion-single/1526746983" target="_blank">Cardi B Wap</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472954/" target="_blank">It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/software/jaws/" target="_blank">Jaws Screen Reader</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.ssa.gov/" target="_blank">Social Security Administration</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/lae/mac/" target="_blank">MacBook</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nvaccess.org/" target="_blank">NVDA</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sketch.com/" target="_blank">Sketch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/" target="_blank">VS Code</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank">Figma</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Photoshop</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://hitman.com/global/" target="_blank">Hitman 3</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://yakuza.sega.com/lostjudgment/" target="_blank">Lost Judgement</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/skyrim" target="_blank">Skyrim</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps3/" target="_blank">PS3</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/211600/Thief_Gold/" target="_blank">Thief Gold</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.zelda.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">Breath of the Wild</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nintendo.com/switch/" target="_blank">Switch</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://offspringfling.com/" target="_blank">Offspring</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://screenrant.com/soulsborne-games-ranked-dark-souls-bloodborne-elden-ring/" target="_blank">Soulsborne</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/374320/DARK_SOULS_III/" target="_blank">Dark Souls</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring" target="_blank">Elden Ring</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://stadia.google.com/" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://georgerrmartin.com/" target="_blank">George R.R. Martin</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288937/" target="_blank">Degrassi</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.odysseyofthemind.com/" target="_blank">Odyssey of the Mind</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A11y Hour with Crystal Preston-Watson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/uyozz2aue5g78metvt0hnh03/dbfbchzn55ssvwqtbkkz3ixa.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3177</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Accessibility is like learning a new language, leaving many developers wondering where to start. The answer is pretty simple, start anywhere. But the onus isn’t all on devs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Crystal Preston-Watson has partial sight and uses a screen reader in her day-to-day as a Senior Digital Accessibility Analyst at Salesforce, one of the largest tech companies in the world. As strange as it may seem, she never used a screen reader until she was asked to test one out in her previous role as a quality engineer. Once she got her hands on one, she saw just how much businesses excluded people with disabilities from their target audience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Crystal knows first-hand how quickly the expenses rack up when the burden of accessibility is placed on people with disabilities. In her talks, she addresses this and other lessons on accessibility with a bit of humor to make the conversation more approachable and beginner-friendly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Crystal about pitching accessibility to higher-ups, the actual cost of accessibility, and her love for comedy and improv.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[01:31] - An intro to Crystal Preston-Watson.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[02:51] - A whiskey review - Johnny Drum Private Stock.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[08:51] - Crystal explains accessibility.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:08] - How to pitch accessibility to company leadership. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[20:42] - Crystal’s guide to setting accessibility targets within a company.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:24] - Crystal explains the cost and some of the challenges of being disabled.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[40:41] - Crystal talks about her love for video games.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:05] - Crystal talks about her love for improv.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[17:07] - “Accessibility is everyone&#39;s concern. There are some really specific things that only a developer or tester or content creator can do, but at the end of the day, it&#39;s a very holistic thing, and everyone needs to be concerned about it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[21:33] -&lt;strong&gt; “&lt;/strong&gt;If you have users that can&#39;t use your application, that is money wasted. And that&#39;s the thing, disabled people have money, and if they can&#39;t use your product then they&#39;re going to take that money somewhere else unless it is something that is very vital.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[24:11] - “Everyone will use a mouse if they&#39;re not blind and visually impaired and that&#39;s just not true.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://crystalprestonwatson.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalprestonwatson/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/ScopicEngineer&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Crystal Preston-Watson Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/johnny-drum-private-stock/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Johnny Drum Private Stock&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.salesforce.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Salesforce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://music.apple.com/us/album/wap-feat-megan-thee-stallion-single/1526746983&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cardi B Wap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472954/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;It&#39;s Always Sunny in Philadelphia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/software/jaws/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jaws Screen Reader&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.ssa.gov/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Social Security Administration&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/uyozz2aue5g78metvt0hnh03/oqx5epfjg5aj6w2czk1m0efd/transcoded-01KECKDEXF3081PXKNCSK54GHK-01KECKDEXF6Z2JN2FQ7SABBCZ5_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Release of Nuxt 3 with Daniel Roe</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The best way to win over a developer is to make their job simpler. The release of Nuxt 3 promises an even better developer experience than its former versions. That’s music to every developer’s ears. Who doesn’t want faster rendering?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Daniel Roe, framework architect at Nuxt Labs has been working to get Nuxt 3 production ready for a stable release. In addition to DX improvements, once N3 is out of release, you can expect hybrid rendering, less JavaScript, and a cross-platform framework that can be used with pretty much any cloud service.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This Nuxt release is casting a wide net. Daniel and the team wanted the framework to be suited for everyone from hobby bloggers to enterprises. But the biggest win might be for e-commerce sites that need speed, performance, and personalization. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Daniel about the features of Nuxt 3, improving the developer experience, and his family vacation to Algarve, Portugal. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:38] - An introduction to Daniel Roe.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:29] - A whiskey review - Laphroig Lore.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:20] - The new features in Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:16] - The best path to convert projects to Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:47] - The target audience for Nuxt 2 and Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:31] - Daniel’s holiday in Portugal .
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:49] - David’s side project in Magic Regexp.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:21] - “Some of the things that Nuxt 3 brings, well, it&#39;s been rewritten from the start, so it&#39;s given us an opportunity to do what we really wanted to do with Nuxt. And to learn from some of the mistakes we made for Nuxt 2 and adapt Nuxt for a new world. That sounds a bit crap, but more and more I think we&#39;re looking to take advantage of different kinds of hardware for rendering HTML.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:18] - “Nuxt 2, out of the box, is a bare minimum package. I did some checking on this. The cold start for the server was 300 milliseconds. With Nuxt 3, it is three milliseconds.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[38:48] - “I always like using suppliers that win me over because they have the best of whatever it is. They&#39;re able to meet my needs. Whether that&#39;s experience or price point or whatever it is. But they&#39;ve won me over. I don&#39;t have to stay with them. I&#39;m not forced or coerced into it. I didn&#39;t make an early choice, and now I&#39;m reaping the whirlwind and having to pay the price for it. I&#39;m with them because I want to be. That&#39;s the best scenario. You have the power to choose. You&#39;re choosing the platform you feel is the best.“ ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://uk.linkedin.com/in/daniel-roe?original_referer=&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Daniel Roe LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Daniel Roe Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.durham.ac.uk/homepage/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Durham University&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://libguides.durham.ac.uk/friendly.php?s=Libraries/billbryson&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bill Bryson Library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.laphroaig.com/en/lore&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laphroig Lore&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
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  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f2e80050-2e02-11ed-9e73-e7cdee1f9113</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/n1me233nfwc6ypaykfpfkbmz.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to win over a developer is to make their job simpler. The release of Nuxt 3 promises an even better developer experience than its former versions. That’s music to every developer’s ears. Who doesn’t want faster rendering?</p>
<p>
Daniel Roe, framework architect at Nuxt Labs has been working to get Nuxt 3 production ready for a stable release. In addition to DX improvements, once N3 is out of release, you can expect hybrid rendering, less JavaScript, and a cross-platform framework that can be used with pretty much any cloud service.</p>
<p>
This Nuxt release is casting a wide net. Daniel and the team wanted the framework to be suited for everyone from hobby bloggers to enterprises. But the biggest win might be for e-commerce sites that need speed, performance, and personalization. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Daniel about the features of Nuxt 3, improving the developer experience, and his family vacation to Algarve, Portugal. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:38] - An introduction to Daniel Roe.
</li>
 <li>[03:29] - A whiskey review - Laphroig Lore.
</li>
  <li>[11:20] - The new features in Nuxt 3.
</li>
  <li>[19:16] - The best path to convert projects to Nuxt 3.
</li>
  <li>[32:47] - The target audience for Nuxt 2 and Nuxt 3.
</li>
  <li>[45:31] - Daniel’s holiday in Portugal .
</li>
  <li>[51:49] - David’s side project in Magic Regexp.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[12:21] - “Some of the things that Nuxt 3 brings, well, it's been rewritten from the start, so it's given us an opportunity to do what we really wanted to do with Nuxt. And to learn from some of the mistakes we made for Nuxt 2 and adapt Nuxt for a new world. That sounds a bit crap, but more and more I think we're looking to take advantage of different kinds of hardware for rendering HTML.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/danielcroe?lang=en" target="_blank">@danielcroe</a></p>
<p>
[13:18] - “Nuxt 2, out of the box, is a bare minimum package. I did some checking on this. The cold start for the server was 300 milliseconds. With Nuxt 3, it is three milliseconds.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/danielcroe" target="_blank">@danielcroe</a></p>
<p>
[38:48] - “I always like using suppliers that win me over because they have the best of whatever it is. They're able to meet my needs. Whether that's experience or price point or whatever it is. But they've won me over. I don't have to stay with them. I'm not forced or coerced into it. I didn't make an early choice, and now I'm reaping the whirlwind and having to pay the price for it. I'm with them because I want to be. That's the best scenario. You have the power to choose. You're choosing the platform you feel is the best.“ ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/danielcroe" target="_blank">@danielcroe</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/in/daniel-roe?original_referer=" target="_blank">Daniel Roe LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/danielcroe?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Daniel Roe Twitter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://nuxtjs.org/" target="_blank">Nuxt</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.org/" target="_blank">Vue</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bryson" target="_blank">Bill Bryson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.durham.ac.uk/homepage/" target="_blank">Durham University</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://libguides.durham.ac.uk/friendly.php?s=Libraries/billbryson" target="_blank">Bill Bryson Library</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.laphroaig.com/en/lore" target="_blank">Laphroig Lore</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.laphroaig.com/en/" target="_blank">Laphroig</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pringles.com/us/home.html" target="_blank">Pringles</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vitejs.dev/" target="_blank">Vite</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://webpack.js.org/" target="_blank">Webpack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org/" target="_blank">TypeScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org/" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://discord.com/" target="_blank">Discord</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jestjs.io/" target="_blank">Jest</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.javascript.com/" target="_blank">JavaScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://remix.run/" target="_blank">Remix</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build/" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.solidjs.com/" target="_blank">Solid</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://redwoodjs.com/" target="_blank">Redwood JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mojombo?challengeId=AQGA3PaorKJh1QAAAYMA3916779kHmdwxRzHxUZsWyAaGKc5ht1NDQn5yiwolss6G8mdzUEAOiVC489W41KliSVocEubDXruDw&amp;submissionId=f62464d7-1734-1117-66ad-dcb0cd867e58&amp;challengeSource=AgE68xgtYwAOQQAAAYMA4GDZu88OLghsAeeQ9QwpeLd7C2lj7SnXp9I2WU_XyAU&amp;challegeType=AgE9TZZ2NGrSngAAAYMA4GDcCtmFmd7_dbO-3wChs8BGFnQ43cuTKgE&amp;memberId=AgFWh-ee-xhpeAAAAYMA4GDfATv9aou96bI3AEa8W5JQ3FY&amp;recognizeDevice=AgGqmXLoCsccfQAAAYMA4GDiQ-xvjl7ZdtE9S-5S7lrQOm_G0Kp5" target="_blank">Tom Preston Warner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/go/developer-brand?utm_campaign=amer_brand_kw_en_cpc&amp;utm_adgroup=digitalocean_exact_exact&amp;_keyword=digitalocean&amp;_device=c&amp;_adposition=&amp;utm_content=conversion&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_source=google&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw08aYBhDlARIsAA_gb0eGizPu9_96WU8LyCcK8ILBWpP6nhtJw5uLgT3ZgVWFftsucyg8Gu8aAj8mEALw_wcB" target="_blank">DigitalOcean</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vercel.com/" target="_blank">Vercel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.netlify.com/" target="_blank">Netlify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://safc.com/" target="_blank">Sunderland</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://v" target="_blank">Manchester United</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/detail/eric-cantona" target="_blank">Eric Cantona</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford" target="_blank">Old Trafford </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://vuejs.amsterdam/" target="_blank">Vuejs Amsterdam</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://regexp.dev/" target="_blank">Magic Regexp</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://regexper.com/" target="_blank">Regexper</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://antfu.me/" target="_blank">Anthony Fu</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-tai" target="_blank">David Tai</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/rwwagner90" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
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  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Promos</p>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.
</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Release of Nuxt 3 with Daniel Roe</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n1me233nfwc6ypaykfpfkbmz/loqi121j1jr0u11qdu28wmj0.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3377</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The best way to win over a developer is to make their job simpler. The release of Nuxt 3 promises an even better developer experience than its former versions. That’s music to every developer’s ears. Who doesn’t want faster rendering?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Daniel Roe, framework architect at Nuxt Labs has been working to get Nuxt 3 production ready for a stable release. In addition to DX improvements, once N3 is out of release, you can expect hybrid rendering, less JavaScript, and a cross-platform framework that can be used with pretty much any cloud service.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This Nuxt release is casting a wide net. Daniel and the team wanted the framework to be suited for everyone from hobby bloggers to enterprises. But the biggest win might be for e-commerce sites that need speed, performance, and personalization. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk to Daniel about the features of Nuxt 3, improving the developer experience, and his family vacation to Algarve, Portugal. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:38] - An introduction to Daniel Roe.
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[03:29] - A whiskey review - Laphroig Lore.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:20] - The new features in Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:16] - The best path to convert projects to Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[32:47] - The target audience for Nuxt 2 and Nuxt 3.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:31] - Daniel’s holiday in Portugal .
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[51:49] - David’s side project in Magic Regexp.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[12:21] - “Some of the things that Nuxt 3 brings, well, it&#39;s been rewritten from the start, so it&#39;s given us an opportunity to do what we really wanted to do with Nuxt. And to learn from some of the mistakes we made for Nuxt 2 and adapt Nuxt for a new world. That sounds a bit crap, but more and more I think we&#39;re looking to take advantage of different kinds of hardware for rendering HTML.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe?lang=en&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[13:18] - “Nuxt 2, out of the box, is a bare minimum package. I did some checking on this. The cold start for the server was 300 milliseconds. With Nuxt 3, it is three milliseconds.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[38:48] - “I always like using suppliers that win me over because they have the best of whatever it is. They&#39;re able to meet my needs. Whether that&#39;s experience or price point or whatever it is. But they&#39;ve won me over. I don&#39;t have to stay with them. I&#39;m not forced or coerced into it. I didn&#39;t make an early choice, and now I&#39;m reaping the whirlwind and having to pay the price for it. I&#39;m with them because I want to be. That&#39;s the best scenario. You have the power to choose. You&#39;re choosing the platform you feel is the best.“ ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@danielcroe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://uk.linkedin.com/in/daniel-roe?original_referer=&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Daniel Roe LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/danielcroe?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Daniel Roe Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://nuxtjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Nuxt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bryson&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bill Bryson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.durham.ac.uk/homepage/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Durham University&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://libguides.durham.ac.uk/friendly.php?s=Libraries/billbryson&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Bill Bryson Library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.laphroaig.com/en/lore&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laphroig Lore&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.laphroaig.com/en/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Laphroig&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pringles.com/us/home.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pringles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vitejs.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://webpack.js.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Webpack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.typescriptlang.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;TypeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://discord.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Discord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jestjs.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.javascript.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://remix.run/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Remix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.solidjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Solid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Redwood JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/mojombo?challengeId=AQGA3PaorKJh1QAAAYMA3916779kHmdwxRzHxUZsWyAaGKc5ht1NDQn5yiwolss6G8mdzUEAOiVC489W41KliSVocEubDXruDw&amp;amp;submissionId=f62464d7-1734-1117-66ad-dcb0cd867e58&amp;amp;challengeSource=AgE68xgtYwAOQQAAAYMA4GDZu88OLghsAeeQ9QwpeLd7C2lj7SnXp9I2WU_XyAU&amp;amp;challegeType=AgE9TZZ2NGrSngAAAYMA4GDcCtmFmd7_dbO-3wChs8BGFnQ43cuTKgE&amp;amp;memberId=AgFWh-ee-xhpeAAAAYMA4GDfATv9aou96bI3AEa8W5JQ3FY&amp;amp;recognizeDevice=AgGqmXLoCsccfQAAAYMA4GDiQ-xvjl7ZdtE9S-5S7lrQOm_G0Kp5&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tom Preston Warner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.digitalocean.com/go/developer-brand?utm_campaign=amer_brand_kw_en_cpc&amp;amp;utm_adgroup=digitalocean_exact_exact&amp;amp;_keyword=digitalocean&amp;amp;_device=c&amp;amp;_adposition=&amp;amp;utm_content=conversion&amp;amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;amp;utm_source=google&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw08aYBhDlARIsAA_gb0eGizPu9_96WU8LyCcK8ILBWpP6nhtJw5uLgT3ZgVWFftsucyg8Gu8aAj8mEALw_wcB&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;DigitalOcean&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vercel.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vercel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.netlify.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Netlify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://safc.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Sunderland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://v&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Manchester United&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/detail/eric-cantona&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Eric Cantona&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.manutd.com/en/visit-old-trafford&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Old Trafford &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://vuejs.amsterdam/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vuejs Amsterdam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://regexp.dev/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Magic Regexp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://regexper.com/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Regexper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://antfu.me/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Anthony Fu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-tai&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;David Tai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/rwwagner90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Promos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/n1me233nfwc6ypaykfpfkbmz/joxeatjve9fchzsxxbamqel1/transcoded-01KECKDFKZJB08Y8TXBVD4NMH5-01KECKDFKZ1HBVEY89YW86PS13_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>HTML Accessibility, Package Managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Devs have a lot on their plate, but the key is to find time for what&#39;s important. Championing accessibility is only possible if devs prioritize it and a good place to start is by knowing your HTML elements. If dogs can learn 50 human words, then devs can learn 50 HTML elements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On another note, not all package managers are made equal. Robbie has been loyal to Yarn for years and is okay with waiting a few minutes for installs. But from Chuck&#39;s operations perspective, when you&#39;re talking about continuous integration that can eat up a huge chunk of your day, it might be time to look for something that promises speed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of knowing your HTML elements, the pros and cons of different package managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT drop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:09] - Why Chuck and Robbie struggle to find time for reading.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[04:43] - A whiskey review - Huling Station.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:27] - How many HTML elements can Chuck and Robbie name.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:25] - How to choose the right package manager.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:27] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s eventful trips.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[56:14] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;s NFT drop.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[03:32] - &#34;You can fit in anything that you prioritize, right? If you said working out is the same as eating, it has to be done. You would find time.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:38] - &#34;I think HTML is real, and it hasn&#39;t been the first-class citizen that it deserves in terms of the Internet itself, whose intention was to distribute documents and have that accessible across schools and scientific organizations and whatever else. So let&#39;s not forget what it was all about, especially if you have a content site. Give your content first-class citizenship.&#34;  ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[27:32] - &#34;NPM is the leader in the JavaScript world, although it has its proponents and opponents. Many people have jumped over to Yarn for some of its benefits over a period of time, and some of its features influenced NPM and bring people back and forth a little bit.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie Gerard [https://charliegerard.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Huling Station [https://olddominick.com/spirits/huling-station-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Siri [https://www.apple.com/siri/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waze [https://www.waze.com/live-map/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Domonic&#39;s [https://olddominick.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Github [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun [https://bun.sh/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase [https://supabase.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firebase [https://firebase.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Postgres [https://www.postgresql.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DirecTV [https://www.directv.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ron Burgundy [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sea World [https://seaworld.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">7f2cfa08-2957-11ed-bbff-7bf03aaa21cf</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/xqot5ci46gefws5fzadu6qoo.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devs have a lot on their plate, but the key is to find time for what's important. Championing accessibility is only possible if devs prioritize it and a good place to start is by knowing your HTML elements. If dogs can learn 50 human words, then devs can learn 50 HTML elements.</p>
<p>On another note, not all package managers are made equal. Robbie has been loyal to Yarn for years and is okay with waiting a few minutes for installs. But from Chuck's operations perspective, when you're talking about continuous integration that can eat up a huge chunk of your day, it might be time to look for something that promises speed.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of knowing your HTML elements, the pros and cons of different package managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT drop.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[02:09] - Why Chuck and Robbie struggle to find time for reading.</li>
<li>[04:43] - A whiskey review - Huling Station.</li>
<li>[12:27] - How many HTML elements can Chuck and Robbie name.</li>
<li>[26:25] - How to choose the right package manager.</li>
<li>[41:27] - Chuck and Robbie's eventful trips.</li>
<li>[56:14] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot's NFT drop.</li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[03:32] - "You can fit in anything that you prioritize, right? If you said working out is the same as eating, it has to be done. You would find time." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[26:38] - "I think HTML is real, and it hasn't been the first-class citizen that it deserves in terms of the Internet itself, whose intention was to distribute documents and have that accessible across schools and scientific organizations and whatever else. So let's not forget what it was all about, especially if you have a content site. Give your content first-class citizenship."  ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[27:32] - "NPM is the leader in the JavaScript world, although it has its proponents and opponents. Many people have jumped over to Yarn for some of its benefits over a period of time, and some of its features influenced NPM and bring people back and forth a little bit." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Charlie Gerard [https://charliegerard.dev/]</li>
<li>Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>Huling Station [https://olddominick.com/spirits/huling-station-bourbon-whiskey/]</li>
<li>National Geographic [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]</li>
<li>Siri [https://www.apple.com/siri/]</li>
<li>Waze [https://www.waze.com/live-map/]</li>
<li>Old Domonic's [https://olddominick.com/]</li>
<li>Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]</li>
<li>Seelbach's [https://seelbachs.com/]</li>
<li>Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]</li>
<li>JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]</li>
<li>Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com/]</li>
<li>Github [https://github.com/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>jQuery [https://jquery.com/]</li>
<li>Vercel [https://vercel.com/]</li>
<li>JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]</li>
<li>Bun [https://bun.sh/]</li>
<li>Supabase [https://supabase.com/]</li>
<li>Firebase [https://firebase.google.com/]</li>
<li>Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]</li>
<li>Postgres [https://www.postgresql.org/]</li>
<li>DirecTV [https://www.directv.com/]</li>
<li>Ron Burgundy [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/]</li>
<li>Sea World [https://seaworld.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>HTML Accessibility, Package Managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xqot5ci46gefws5fzadu6qoo/ev0961ntdvsyzfvn25ztoplf.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3660</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Devs have a lot on their plate, but the key is to find time for what&#39;s important. Championing accessibility is only possible if devs prioritize it and a good place to start is by knowing your HTML elements. If dogs can learn 50 human words, then devs can learn 50 HTML elements.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On another note, not all package managers are made equal. Robbie has been loyal to Yarn for years and is okay with waiting a few minutes for installs. But from Chuck&#39;s operations perspective, when you&#39;re talking about continuous integration that can eat up a huge chunk of your day, it might be time to look for something that promises speed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk about the importance of knowing your HTML elements, the pros and cons of different package managers, and the Whiskey Web and Whatnot NFT drop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:09] - Why Chuck and Robbie struggle to find time for reading.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[04:43] - A whiskey review - Huling Station.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:27] - How many HTML elements can Chuck and Robbie name.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:25] - How to choose the right package manager.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:27] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s eventful trips.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[56:14] - Whiskey Web and Whatnot&#39;s NFT drop.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[03:32] - &#34;You can fit in anything that you prioritize, right? If you said working out is the same as eating, it has to be done. You would find time.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:38] - &#34;I think HTML is real, and it hasn&#39;t been the first-class citizen that it deserves in terms of the Internet itself, whose intention was to distribute documents and have that accessible across schools and scientific organizations and whatever else. So let&#39;s not forget what it was all about, especially if you have a content site. Give your content first-class citizenship.&#34;  ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[27:32] - &#34;NPM is the leader in the JavaScript world, although it has its proponents and opponents. Many people have jumped over to Yarn for some of its benefits over a period of time, and some of its features influenced NPM and bring people back and forth a little bit.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie Gerard [https://charliegerard.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Huling Station [https://olddominick.com/spirits/huling-station-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Siri [https://www.apple.com/siri/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Waze [https://www.waze.com/live-map/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Domonic&#39;s [https://olddominick.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Justin Timberlake [https://justintimberlake.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nuxt [https://nuxtjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Github [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun [https://bun.sh/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Supabase [https://supabase.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Firebase [https://firebase.google.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Postgres [https://www.postgresql.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DirecTV [https://www.directv.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ron Burgundy [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sea World [https://seaworld.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/xqot5ci46gefws5fzadu6qoo/zl3ryirpaq5uy35zywj44i97/transcoded-01KECKDG808GNFG74W6PHT50PX-01KECKDG80J7KFCWWDD3FARDG7_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Tech Rants, Supporting Open Source, and Great TV Shows</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:36] - Chuck&#39;s weekend plans with family.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:29] - Chuck&#39;s Korean fried chicken experience.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:48] - &#34;I feel like we&#39;ve done all of this stuff to be like, let&#39;s get everyone Scrum certified, and let&#39;s do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[12:59] - &#34;You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you&#39;re still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there&#39;s a right way. Who is doing it right?&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[25:27] - &#34;I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you&#39;re doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here&#39;s $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barrell Dovetail Whiskey [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/dovetail]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MGP [https://www.mgpingredients.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dr Pepper [https://www.drpepper.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cherry Coca Cola [https://us.coca-cola.com/products/coca-cola-flavors/cherry]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey [https://www.georgedickel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels Distillery [https://www.jackdaniels.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Green Brier Distillery [https://www.greenbrier.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melaine Sumner [https://melanie.codes/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sindre Sorhus [https://sindresorhus.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://ie.linkedin.com/in/realate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [https://www.oracle.com/industries/micros/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vitest [https://vitest.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Faker  [https://fakerjs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit [https://reddit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sqwok [https://sqwok.im/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LESS [https://lesscss.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sass [https://sass-lang.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coffee Script [https://coffeescript.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScrpit [https://www.typescriptlang.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lodash [https://lodash.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shop Talk [https://shoptalkshow.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electro-Voice [https://electrovoice.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">1cd34294-22ff-11ed-aacb-57ad373d9d5d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/icknp8xjln0o7wlnlzqeuw3g.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both? </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey.</li>
<li>[08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies.</li>
<li>[18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects.</li>
<li>[30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape.</li>
<li>[43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows.</li>
<li>[49:36] - Chuck's weekend plans with family.</li>
<li>[54:29] - Chuck's Korean fried chicken experience.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[10:48] - "I feel like we've done all of this stuff to be like, let's get everyone Scrum certified, and let's do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[12:59] - "You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you're still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there's a right way. Who is doing it right?" ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[25:27] - "I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you're doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here's $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Barrell Dovetail Whiskey [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/dovetail]</li>
<li>MGP [https://www.mgpingredients.com/]</li>
<li>Dr Pepper [https://www.drpepper.com/]</li>
<li>Cherry Coca Cola [https://us.coca-cola.com/products/coca-cola-flavors/cherry]</li>
<li>George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey [https://www.georgedickel.com/]</li>
<li>Jack Daniels Distillery [https://www.jackdaniels.com/]</li>
<li>Green Brier Distillery [https://www.greenbrier.com/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org/]</li>
<li>GitHub [https://github.com/]</li>
<li>NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]</li>
<li>Melaine Sumner [https://melanie.codes/]</li>
<li>Sindre Sorhus [https://sindresorhus.com/]</li>
<li>Chris Manson [https://ie.linkedin.com/in/realate]</li>
<li>Microsoft [https://www.oracle.com/industries/micros/]</li>
<li>Jest [https://jestjs.io/]</li>
<li>Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/]</li>
<li>Vitest [https://vitest.dev/]</li>
<li>Faker  [https://fakerjs.dev/]</li>
<li>Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]</li>
<li>Reddit [https://reddit.com/]</li>
<li>Sqwok [https://sqwok.im/]</li>
<li>jQuery [https://jquery.com/]</li>
<li>LESS [https://lesscss.org/]</li>
<li>Sass [https://sass-lang.com/]</li>
<li>Coffee Script [https://coffeescript.org/]</li>
<li>TypeScrpit [https://www.typescriptlang.org/]</li>
<li>Lodash [https://lodash.com/]</li>
<li>Shop Talk [https://shoptalkshow.com/]</li>
<li>Electro-Voice [https://electrovoice.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Tech Rants, Supporting Open Source, and Great TV Shows</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/icknp8xjln0o7wlnlzqeuw3g/aiigj7g2bqjly6hvnqljmuov.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3648</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:36] - Chuck&#39;s weekend plans with family.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:29] - Chuck&#39;s Korean fried chicken experience.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:48] - &#34;I feel like we&#39;ve done all of this stuff to be like, let&#39;s get everyone Scrum certified, and let&#39;s do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[12:59] - &#34;You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you&#39;re still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there&#39;s a right way. Who is doing it right?&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[25:27] - &#34;I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you&#39;re doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here&#39;s $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Barrell Dovetail Whiskey [https://www.barrellbourbon.com/dovetail]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MGP [https://www.mgpingredients.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dr Pepper [https://www.drpepper.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cherry Coca Cola [https://us.coca-cola.com/products/coca-cola-flavors/cherry]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey [https://www.georgedickel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels Distillery [https://www.jackdaniels.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Green Brier Distillery [https://www.greenbrier.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NPM [https://www.npmjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melaine Sumner [https://melanie.codes/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sindre Sorhus [https://sindresorhus.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://ie.linkedin.com/in/realate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [https://www.oracle.com/industries/micros/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vitest [https://vitest.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Faker  [https://fakerjs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Java Script [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://thehackernews.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Reddit [https://reddit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sqwok [https://sqwok.im/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;jQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LESS [https://lesscss.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sass [https://sass-lang.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coffee Script [https://coffeescript.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScrpit [https://www.typescriptlang.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lodash [https://lodash.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shop Talk [https://shoptalkshow.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Electro-Voice [https://electrovoice.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/icknp8xjln0o7wlnlzqeuw3g/p9hikmooxjdum1yqwicx4hhf/transcoded-01KECKDGKS9F6VQSC1APXRPHZ7-01KECKDGKSCTG51ZEH8R630R4X_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Web Frameworks, the Launch of Astro 1.0, and National Parks with Nate Moore</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Introducing a new framework can be challenging, especially when developers are loyal to old favorites. But Astro 1.0 is bridging the gap between old and new by staying compatible and familiar with other frameworks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nate Moore, an engineer at Astro Technology Company and core maintainer on Astro has been working on Astro 1.0 for 16 months. His major focus was launching a new web framework that is sustainable and future-proof. Astro 1.0 is targeted at devs building content-based websites and is compatible with most frameworks out there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Nate talks with Robbie and Chuck about the launch of Astro 1.0, its compatibility with other frameworks, frameworks that inspired Astro, and Nate&#39;s life goal of visiting every national park.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:49] - A quick intro to Nate.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:36] - A whisky review - Laws Centennial Straight Wheat Whiskey 4 Year.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:59] - What is Astro?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:24] - What are the new features in Astro 1.0?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:32] - Web components Nate has used.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:10] - The challenges with monorepos.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:41] - Nate&#39;s life goal of visiting every national park.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[12:11] - &#34;I think the ecosystem just goes in circles. But it is funny to see people come into the ecosystem and be like, where&#39;s your link component? It&#39;s like that&#39;s just an anchor tag. You don&#39;t need a component.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:39] - &#34;I heard somebody recently described Vite as the United Nations of JavaScript. Everybody is building on top of Vite now, and it&#39;s just really cool to see because if you hit a bug and you upstream a fix, then everybody is going to benefit from that, and people are really taking it in a lot of different ways.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[27:39] - &#34;I think people are really spoiled by how much investment like Microsoft has made into TypeScript and just like all the tooling around that stuff. It is so much work to get your own language up and running.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nate Moore Twitter [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro Twitter [https://twitter.com/astrodotbuild]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NASA [https://www.nasa.gov/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law Whiskey Centennial Wheat Whiskey [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/laws-bonded-centennial-wheat-whiskey-turns-five-years-old/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1787 Coworking Space [https://1787.work/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML [https://html.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stack Overflow [https://stackoverflow.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Carniato Twitter [https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Router [https://reactrouter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack [https://www.snowflake.com/snowpark/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skypack [https://www.skypack.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Markdown [https://www.markdownguide.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">5b04504c-1e38-11ed-9cf2-5bd71ed5120f</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ksm2ebgsm8zdf7grcq8cd5wp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introducing a new framework can be challenging, especially when developers are loyal to old favorites. But Astro 1.0 is bridging the gap between old and new by staying compatible and familiar with other frameworks.</p>
<p>Nate Moore, an engineer at Astro Technology Company and core maintainer on Astro has been working on Astro 1.0 for 16 months. His major focus was launching a new web framework that is sustainable and future-proof. Astro 1.0 is targeted at devs building content-based websites and is compatible with most frameworks out there.</p>
<p>In this episode, Nate talks with Robbie and Chuck about the launch of Astro 1.0, its compatibility with other frameworks, frameworks that inspired Astro, and Nate's life goal of visiting every national park.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:49] - A quick intro to Nate.</li>
<li>[01:36] - A whisky review - Laws Centennial Straight Wheat Whiskey 4 Year.</li>
<li>[09:59] - What is Astro?</li>
<li>[23:24] - What are the new features in Astro 1.0?</li>
<li>[30:32] - Web components Nate has used.</li>
<li>[42:10] - The challenges with monorepos.</li>
<li>[44:41] - Nate's life goal of visiting every national park.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[12:11] - "I think the ecosystem just goes in circles. But it is funny to see people come into the ecosystem and be like, where's your link component? It's like that's just an anchor tag. You don't need a component." - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]</p>
<p>[22:39] - "I heard somebody recently described Vite as the United Nations of JavaScript. Everybody is building on top of Vite now, and it's just really cool to see because if you hit a bug and you upstream a fix, then everybody is going to benefit from that, and people are really taking it in a lot of different ways." - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]</p>
<p>[27:39] - "I think people are really spoiled by how much investment like Microsoft has made into TypeScript and just like all the tooling around that stuff. It is so much work to get your own language up and running." - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Nate Moore Twitter [https://twitter.com/n_moore]</li>
<li>Astro Twitter [https://twitter.com/astrodotbuild]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build/]</li>
<li>NASA [https://www.nasa.gov/]</li>
<li>Law Whiskey Centennial Wheat Whiskey [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/laws-bonded-centennial-wheat-whiskey-turns-five-years-old/]</li>
<li>1787 Coworking Space [https://1787.work/]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>HTML [https://html.com/]</li>
<li>JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]</li>
<li>Stack Overflow [https://stackoverflow.com/]</li>
<li>JQuery [https://jquery.com/]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]</li>
<li>Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]</li>
<li>Vue [https://vuejs.org/]</li>
<li>Ryan Carniato Twitter [https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato]</li>
<li>Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run/]</li>
<li>React Router [https://reactrouter.com/]</li>
<li>NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com/]</li>
<li>Snowpack [https://www.snowflake.com/snowpark/]</li>
<li>Skypack [https://www.skypack.dev/]</li>
<li>Vite [https://vitejs.dev/]</li>
<li>Markdown [https://www.markdownguide.org/]</li>
<li>Netlify [https://www.netlify.com/]</li>
<li>Vercel [https://vercel.com/]</li>
<li>Discord [https://discord.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Web Frameworks, the Launch of Astro 1.0, and National Parks with Nate Moore</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ksm2ebgsm8zdf7grcq8cd5wp/pq4m9yefgujlcvp1hszg5zif.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3519</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Introducing a new framework can be challenging, especially when developers are loyal to old favorites. But Astro 1.0 is bridging the gap between old and new by staying compatible and familiar with other frameworks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nate Moore, an engineer at Astro Technology Company and core maintainer on Astro has been working on Astro 1.0 for 16 months. His major focus was launching a new web framework that is sustainable and future-proof. Astro 1.0 is targeted at devs building content-based websites and is compatible with most frameworks out there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Nate talks with Robbie and Chuck about the launch of Astro 1.0, its compatibility with other frameworks, frameworks that inspired Astro, and Nate&#39;s life goal of visiting every national park.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:49] - A quick intro to Nate.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:36] - A whisky review - Laws Centennial Straight Wheat Whiskey 4 Year.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:59] - What is Astro?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:24] - What are the new features in Astro 1.0?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:32] - Web components Nate has used.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:10] - The challenges with monorepos.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:41] - Nate&#39;s life goal of visiting every national park.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[12:11] - &#34;I think the ecosystem just goes in circles. But it is funny to see people come into the ecosystem and be like, where&#39;s your link component? It&#39;s like that&#39;s just an anchor tag. You don&#39;t need a component.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:39] - &#34;I heard somebody recently described Vite as the United Nations of JavaScript. Everybody is building on top of Vite now, and it&#39;s just really cool to see because if you hit a bug and you upstream a fix, then everybody is going to benefit from that, and people are really taking it in a lot of different ways.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[27:39] - &#34;I think people are really spoiled by how much investment like Microsoft has made into TypeScript and just like all the tooling around that stuff. It is so much work to get your own language up and running.&#34; - @n_moore [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nate Moore Twitter [https://twitter.com/n_moore]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro Twitter [https://twitter.com/astrodotbuild]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NASA [https://www.nasa.gov/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Law Whiskey Centennial Wheat Whiskey [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/laws-bonded-centennial-wheat-whiskey-turns-five-years-old/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1787 Coworking Space [https://1787.work/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HTML [https://html.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stack Overflow [https://stackoverflow.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JQuery [https://jquery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Solid [https://www.solidjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Carniato Twitter [https://twitter.com/RyanCarniato]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood [https://redwoodjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Router [https://reactrouter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NextJS [https://nextjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack [https://www.snowflake.com/snowpark/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Skypack [https://www.skypack.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Markdown [https://www.markdownguide.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ksm2ebgsm8zdf7grcq8cd5wp/urnqkmovnvc1rfzbo9qupnjf/transcoded-01KECKDKKECGM27TPK03R0KFAQ-01KECKDKKE39DWKZ3A65Q6KG90_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A11y Hour with Mark Steadman</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Like many developers, Mark Steadman began working in web development with just a couple of goals in mind: write something that runs and passes a test. No major thought for those using the interface he created. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mark&#39;s perspective changed when he sat with a few folks who were blind or had low vision, and watched as they used assistive technology for the web and attempted to navigate a site he&#39;d developed. Their struggle to tackle basic web functions against inaccessible code was Mark&#39;s wake-up moment and his inspiration to close the gap between emerging developers and accessibility education. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Mark about his passion for accessibility, where most web accessibility issues originate, practical tips for incorporating accessibility into developer workflow, and why accessibility means more than checking a box, meeting quota, and passing a test.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:44] - A quick intro to Mark. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:52] - A whiskey review - Angel&#39;s Envy Bourbon Port Finish. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:47] - How Mark became an accessibility specialist. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:28] - Where the web accessibility issue originates. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:41] - How to make data visualization accessible. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:29] - The major accessibility complaint we fail to consider with JavaScript frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:17] - How to keep developers and frameworks on the right track with accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:22] - A Star Wars-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:37] - Why Mark likes college football (and their stadiums). &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:50] - &#34;I feel like there&#39;s a gap in the field right now where developers are kind of not being reached out to from the accessibility side of things. So my passion in both my job and on the side too, I write for accessibility as well, is to fill that gap.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[38:53] - &#34;That&#39;s my biggest advocacy for automation, is it helps developers learn accessibility on the fly.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:00:08] - &#34;If you are a developer that&#39;s listening to this, take the time to put accessibility as a priority. As much as everybody in the world is going to tell you that priority for accessibility is not there, find time.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Steadman [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fidelity Investments  [https://www.fidelity.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angel&#39;s Envy - Port Wine Whiskey Kentucky Straight  [https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/product/port-finish/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rivian [https://rivian.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester  [https://www.oldforester.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;State Farm [https://www.statefarm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deque Systems  [https://www.deque.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DEV Community [https://dev.to]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jira [https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ARIA [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sarah L. Fossheim [https://fossheim.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yahoo Finance [https://finance.yahoo.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Finance [https://www.google.com/finance]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner  [https://github.com/MelSumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;axe Accessibility Linter [https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=deque-systems.vscode-axe-linter]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">015e5248-18b8-11ed-b037-b3faefb186bf</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/lp2svi1p8nstun4ubrbffui5.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many developers, Mark Steadman began working in web development with just a couple of goals in mind: write something that runs and passes a test. No major thought for those using the interface he created. </p>
<p>Mark's perspective changed when he sat with a few folks who were blind or had low vision, and watched as they used assistive technology for the web and attempted to navigate a site he'd developed. Their struggle to tackle basic web functions against inaccessible code was Mark's wake-up moment and his inspiration to close the gap between emerging developers and accessibility education. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Mark about his passion for accessibility, where most web accessibility issues originate, practical tips for incorporating accessibility into developer workflow, and why accessibility means more than checking a box, meeting quota, and passing a test.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:44] - A quick intro to Mark. </li>
<li>[02:52] - A whiskey review - Angel's Envy Bourbon Port Finish. </li>
<li>[11:47] - How Mark became an accessibility specialist. </li>
<li>[19:28] - Where the web accessibility issue originates. </li>
<li>[27:41] - How to make data visualization accessible. </li>
<li>[34:29] - The major accessibility complaint we fail to consider with JavaScript frameworks.</li>
<li>[36:17] - How to keep developers and frameworks on the right track with accessibility. </li>
<li>[44:22] - A Star Wars-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[50:37] - Why Mark likes college football (and their stadiums). </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[01:50] - "I feel like there's a gap in the field right now where developers are kind of not being reached out to from the accessibility side of things. So my passion in both my job and on the side too, I write for accessibility as well, is to fill that gap." ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]</p>
<p>[38:53] - "That's my biggest advocacy for automation, is it helps developers learn accessibility on the fly." ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]</p>
<p>[01:00:08] - "If you are a developer that's listening to this, take the time to put accessibility as a priority. As much as everybody in the world is going to tell you that priority for accessibility is not there, find time." ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Mark Steadman [https://twitter.com/steady5063]</li>
<li>Fidelity Investments  [https://www.fidelity.com]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Angel's Envy - Port Wine Whiskey Kentucky Straight  [https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/product/port-finish/]</li>
<li>Rivian [https://rivian.com]</li>
<li>Old Forester  [https://www.oldforester.com]</li>
<li>State Farm [https://www.statefarm.com]</li>
<li>Deque Systems  [https://www.deque.com]</li>
<li>DEV Community [https://dev.to]</li>
<li>Jira [https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Angular [https://angular.io]</li>
<li>Vue [https://vuejs.org]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>ARIA [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA]</li>
<li>JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]</li>
<li>Sarah L. Fossheim [https://fossheim.io]</li>
<li>Yahoo Finance [https://finance.yahoo.com]</li>
<li>Google Finance [https://www.google.com/finance]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build]</li>
<li>Melanie Sumner  [https://github.com/MelSumner]</li>
<li>axe Accessibility Linter [https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=deque-systems.vscode-axe-linter]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A11y Hour with Mark Steadman</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lp2svi1p8nstun4ubrbffui5/eavs7bdrmmz91kuyh4crktkv.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3774</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Like many developers, Mark Steadman began working in web development with just a couple of goals in mind: write something that runs and passes a test. No major thought for those using the interface he created. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mark&#39;s perspective changed when he sat with a few folks who were blind or had low vision, and watched as they used assistive technology for the web and attempted to navigate a site he&#39;d developed. Their struggle to tackle basic web functions against inaccessible code was Mark&#39;s wake-up moment and his inspiration to close the gap between emerging developers and accessibility education. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Mark about his passion for accessibility, where most web accessibility issues originate, practical tips for incorporating accessibility into developer workflow, and why accessibility means more than checking a box, meeting quota, and passing a test.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:44] - A quick intro to Mark. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:52] - A whiskey review - Angel&#39;s Envy Bourbon Port Finish. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:47] - How Mark became an accessibility specialist. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:28] - Where the web accessibility issue originates. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:41] - How to make data visualization accessible. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:29] - The major accessibility complaint we fail to consider with JavaScript frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:17] - How to keep developers and frameworks on the right track with accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:22] - A Star Wars-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:37] - Why Mark likes college football (and their stadiums). &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:50] - &#34;I feel like there&#39;s a gap in the field right now where developers are kind of not being reached out to from the accessibility side of things. So my passion in both my job and on the side too, I write for accessibility as well, is to fill that gap.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[38:53] - &#34;That&#39;s my biggest advocacy for automation, is it helps developers learn accessibility on the fly.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:00:08] - &#34;If you are a developer that&#39;s listening to this, take the time to put accessibility as a priority. As much as everybody in the world is going to tell you that priority for accessibility is not there, find time.&#34; ~ @Steady5063 [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mark Steadman [https://twitter.com/steady5063]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fidelity Investments  [https://www.fidelity.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angel&#39;s Envy - Port Wine Whiskey Kentucky Straight  [https://www.angelsenvy.com/us/en/product/port-finish/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rivian [https://rivian.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester  [https://www.oldforester.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;State Farm [https://www.statefarm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deque Systems  [https://www.deque.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DEV Community [https://dev.to]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jira [https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue [https://vuejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ARIA [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSX [https://reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sarah L. Fossheim [https://fossheim.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yahoo Finance [https://finance.yahoo.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Finance [https://www.google.com/finance]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner  [https://github.com/MelSumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;axe Accessibility Linter [https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=deque-systems.vscode-axe-linter]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/lp2svi1p8nstun4ubrbffui5/fmp9z3fink0fhzt26pcb17u2/transcoded-01KECKDHMVYATFC7XWGCMWEXBG-01KECKDHMV0QAQ4ZRFYVSXVRYJ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Conventional Commits vs. Release-It and Chatting About the Changelog</title><description>&lt;p&gt;There are two types of engineers. The &#34;normal&#34; ones who strive to make their day-to-day lives as easy as possible and the Robbie&#39;s of the world who strive to do everything themselves until the last line of code is sealed in a changelog. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On that note, do you prefer conventional commits? Or the tools out there that make organization easier and, sometimes, automated? Chuck and Robbie don&#39;t see eye-to-eye on this particular topic so prepare yourself for the mildest smackdown of the century.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of release-it, the beauty of working system-agnostic, why Robbie prefers the changelog, and an attempt to stay abreast of frameworks like fresh coming into focus. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:33] - A whiskey review - Howler Head Banana Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:12] - A mild smackdown on conventional commits versus release-it. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:23] - Why Chuck and Robbie prefer the changelog. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:35] - What is fresh? And Robbie leaks some internal R&amp;amp;D.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:42] - What Robbie thinks about the Chevy Blazer EV and SUVs in general.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:55] - How Chuck and his family acquired a Recall box. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:55] - &#34;I don&#39;t dislike release-it. Let&#39;s be clear there. I just don&#39;t want to have to physically do anything beyond opening the pull request and closing the pull request.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:01] - &#34;I&#39;m not a big fan of conventional commits because it adds a lot of noise to your commit log.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:06] - &#34;I just think that you [Robbie] are different than a lot of engineers in that you&#39;re like, &#39;I want to touch and do all the things for all 16 jobs, I just want to do it myself and make sure it hits to the end&#39; and other engineers are like, &#39;what script can I write to never do this again?&#39;&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Howler Head Kentucky Banana Bourbon Whiskey [https://www.howlerhead.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suggest a Whiskey on Twitter! [https://twitter.com/shipshapecode]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UFC [https://www.ufc.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dana White  [https://www.instagram.com/danawhite/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wooler Brands [https://catalyst-spirits.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fireball  [https://www.fireballwhisky.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coke [https://www.coca-cola.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;release-it  [https://github.com/release-it/release-it]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;changelog [https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Actions [https://github.com/features/actions]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;semantic-release-bot [https://www.npmjs.com/~semantic-release-bot]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft  [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitLab [https://about.gitlab.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;github-changelog-generator  [https://github.com/github-changelog-generator/github-changelog-generator]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;fresh [https://fresh.deno.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Node [https://nodejs.org/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;zerojs [http://technohippy.github.io/zero.js/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;nojs [https://www.npmjs.com/package/nojs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Optix&amp;lt; [https://www.optixapp.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">07229cf4-1285-11ed-b916-1bac67cec300</guid><pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ph1e5u9apqxrui6pvjvjitn9.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two types of engineers. The "normal" ones who strive to make their day-to-day lives as easy as possible and the Robbie's of the world who strive to do everything themselves until the last line of code is sealed in a changelog. </p>
<p>On that note, do you prefer conventional commits? Or the tools out there that make organization easier and, sometimes, automated? Chuck and Robbie don't see eye-to-eye on this particular topic so prepare yourself for the mildest smackdown of the century.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of release-it, the beauty of working system-agnostic, why Robbie prefers the changelog, and an attempt to stay abreast of frameworks like fresh coming into focus. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:33] - A whiskey review - Howler Head Banana Whiskey.</li>
<li>[09:12] - A mild smackdown on conventional commits versus release-it. </li>
<li>[15:23] - Why Chuck and Robbie prefer the changelog. </li>
<li>[20:35] - What is fresh? And Robbie leaks some internal R&amp;D.</li>
<li>[26:42] - What Robbie thinks about the Chevy Blazer EV and SUVs in general.</li>
<li>[44:55] - How Chuck and his family acquired a Recall box. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[09:55] - "I don't dislike release-it. Let's be clear there. I just don't want to have to physically do anything beyond opening the pull request and closing the pull request." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[13:01] - "I'm not a big fan of conventional commits because it adds a lot of noise to your commit log." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[15:06] - "I just think that you [Robbie] are different than a lot of engineers in that you're like, 'I want to touch and do all the things for all 16 jobs, I just want to do it myself and make sure it hits to the end' and other engineers are like, 'what script can I write to never do this again?'" ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Howler Head Kentucky Banana Bourbon Whiskey [https://www.howlerhead.com]</li>
<li>Suggest a Whiskey on Twitter! [https://twitter.com/shipshapecode]</li>
<li>UFC [https://www.ufc.com]</li>
<li>Dana White  [https://www.instagram.com/danawhite/]</li>
<li>Wooler Brands [https://catalyst-spirits.com]</li>
<li>Fireball  [https://www.fireballwhisky.com]</li>
<li>Coke [https://www.coca-cola.com]</li>
<li>release-it  [https://github.com/release-it/release-it]</li>
<li>changelog [https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/] </li>
<li>GitHub Actions [https://github.com/features/actions]</li>
<li>semantic-release-bot [https://www.npmjs.com/~semantic-release-bot]</li>
<li>Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]</li>
<li>Microsoft  [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/]</li>
<li>GitLab [https://about.gitlab.com]</li>
<li>github-changelog-generator  [https://github.com/github-changelog-generator/github-changelog-generator]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>fresh [https://fresh.deno.dev]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>Node [https://nodejs.org/en/]</li>
<li>Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com]</li>
<li>Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]</li>
<li>Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] </li>
<li>zerojs [http://technohippy.github.io/zero.js/]</li>
<li>nojs [https://www.npmjs.com/package/nojs]</li>
<li>Preact [https://preactjs.com]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Optix&lt; [https://www.optixapp.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Conventional Commits vs. Release-It and Chatting About the Changelog</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ph1e5u9apqxrui6pvjvjitn9/eiwcue5n0776gxlw39ml9k59.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3563</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;There are two types of engineers. The &#34;normal&#34; ones who strive to make their day-to-day lives as easy as possible and the Robbie&#39;s of the world who strive to do everything themselves until the last line of code is sealed in a changelog. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On that note, do you prefer conventional commits? Or the tools out there that make organization easier and, sometimes, automated? Chuck and Robbie don&#39;t see eye-to-eye on this particular topic so prepare yourself for the mildest smackdown of the century.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss the pros and cons of release-it, the beauty of working system-agnostic, why Robbie prefers the changelog, and an attempt to stay abreast of frameworks like fresh coming into focus. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:33] - A whiskey review - Howler Head Banana Whiskey.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:12] - A mild smackdown on conventional commits versus release-it. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:23] - Why Chuck and Robbie prefer the changelog. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:35] - What is fresh? And Robbie leaks some internal R&amp;amp;D.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:42] - What Robbie thinks about the Chevy Blazer EV and SUVs in general.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:55] - How Chuck and his family acquired a Recall box. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:55] - &#34;I don&#39;t dislike release-it. Let&#39;s be clear there. I just don&#39;t want to have to physically do anything beyond opening the pull request and closing the pull request.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:01] - &#34;I&#39;m not a big fan of conventional commits because it adds a lot of noise to your commit log.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:06] - &#34;I just think that you [Robbie] are different than a lot of engineers in that you&#39;re like, &#39;I want to touch and do all the things for all 16 jobs, I just want to do it myself and make sure it hits to the end&#39; and other engineers are like, &#39;what script can I write to never do this again?&#39;&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Howler Head Kentucky Banana Bourbon Whiskey [https://www.howlerhead.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Suggest a Whiskey on Twitter! [https://twitter.com/shipshapecode]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UFC [https://www.ufc.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dana White  [https://www.instagram.com/danawhite/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wooler Brands [https://catalyst-spirits.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fireball  [https://www.fireballwhisky.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coke [https://www.coca-cola.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;release-it  [https://github.com/release-it/release-it]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;changelog [https://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Actions [https://github.com/features/actions]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;semantic-release-bot [https://www.npmjs.com/~semantic-release-bot]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft  [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitLab [https://about.gitlab.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;github-changelog-generator  [https://github.com/github-changelog-generator/github-changelog-generator]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;fresh [https://fresh.deno.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Node [https://nodejs.org/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yarn [https://yarnpkg.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;zerojs [http://technohippy.github.io/zero.js/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;nojs [https://www.npmjs.com/package/nojs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Optix&amp;lt; [https://www.optixapp.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ph1e5u9apqxrui6pvjvjitn9/hnkfhyord3wzz7jpjkdlb38e/transcoded-01KECKDH40GW52520SGXJ4RRNX-01KECKDH40QQ622ZTNY7ZFS7NS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Emerging Tech, a Resource Renaissance, and Embracing Ember with Preston Sego</title><description>&lt;p&gt;A few years into Preston Sego&#39;s coding career, a colleague working on increasing interactivity on the company&#39;s interface chose Ember for the endeavor. Years later, when Preston began developing his own project, he took his colleague&#39;s advice and began testing the waters with Ember as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 2019, Preston noticed interesting work brewing within Ember. Realizing Ember was adaptable to modern tools, Preston decided to dive back in and start building out a chat app to test the framework. That same year, Preston spoke at EmberConf and eventually landed a job at CrowdStrike where the framework of choice was Ember.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Preston talks with Chuck and Robbie about comparing Ember to React without angering either side, why he values Ember resources and has worked to create various libraries, what emerging tech Preston&#39;s thrilled to be working on, and what tech Preston&#39;s violently against. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:13] - The origin of Preston&#39;s alias. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:13] - A whiskey review - Malahat Rye.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:14] - How Preston got into Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:09] - The exciting tech projects Preston&#39;s working on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:21] - What Preston is looking forward to that&#39;s coming out soon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:13] - What tech Preston is violently against. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:17] - A corn-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:04] - Why Preston loves pinochle and boring cereal. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:09] - A deep dive on Starcraft. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:54] - What retro games Chuck is playing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:04] - &#34;I really like clinical comparisons between things because if you have any emotion whatsoever in a comparison article, you&#39;re going to upset one of the sides and you don&#39;t wanna do that.&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:10] - &#34;I think the most obvious and beneficial use case [of resources] is for data loading. Just because loading anything Async is a pain.&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:50] - &#34;The rfc is first-class component templates and it solves the biggest complaint that new hires have at my work where people are just like, &#39;I don&#39;t know how to find this thing, how do you find it?&#39;&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preston Sego [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preston on Twitter [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Malahat Spirits Co. Handcrafted 100% Rye [https://www.malahatspirits.com/rye-whiskey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FineCask [https://finecask.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels [https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf 2022 - Keynote Part 1 by Yehuda Katz [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgpnkR-oKec]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack  [http://www.slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike [https://www.crowdstrike.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf 2019 - Comparing Patterns in React and Ember by Preston Sego [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1IkKWYszzk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS [https://www.solidjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue.js [https://vuejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">2256aec0-0d0d-11ed-8c22-5b38f840ab47</guid><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jtni3pqvxy8ilw5pd8c6y017.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years into Preston Sego's coding career, a colleague working on increasing interactivity on the company's interface chose Ember for the endeavor. Years later, when Preston began developing his own project, he took his colleague's advice and began testing the waters with Ember as well. </p>
<p>In 2019, Preston noticed interesting work brewing within Ember. Realizing Ember was adaptable to modern tools, Preston decided to dive back in and start building out a chat app to test the framework. That same year, Preston spoke at EmberConf and eventually landed a job at CrowdStrike where the framework of choice was Ember.</p>
<p>In this episode, Preston talks with Chuck and Robbie about comparing Ember to React without angering either side, why he values Ember resources and has worked to create various libraries, what emerging tech Preston's thrilled to be working on, and what tech Preston's violently against. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:13] - The origin of Preston's alias. </li>
<li>[03:13] - A whiskey review - Malahat Rye.</li>
<li>[10:14] - How Preston got into Ember.</li>
<li>[20:09] - The exciting tech projects Preston's working on.</li>
<li>[26:21] - What Preston is looking forward to that's coming out soon.</li>
<li>[29:13] - What tech Preston is violently against. </li>
<li>[31:17] - A corn-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[35:04] - Why Preston loves pinochle and boring cereal. </li>
<li>[43:09] - A deep dive on Starcraft. </li>
<li>[47:54] - What retro games Chuck is playing. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[15:04] - "I really like clinical comparisons between things because if you have any emotion whatsoever in a comparison article, you're going to upset one of the sides and you don't wanna do that." ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]</p>
<p>[23:10] - "I think the most obvious and beneficial use case [of resources] is for data loading. Just because loading anything Async is a pain." ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]</p>
<p>[26:50] - "The rfc is first-class component templates and it solves the biggest complaint that new hires have at my work where people are just like, 'I don't know how to find this thing, how do you find it?'" ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Preston Sego [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/]</li>
<li>Preston on Twitter [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]</li>
<li>Malahat Spirits Co. Handcrafted 100% Rye [https://www.malahatspirits.com/rye-whiskey]</li>
<li>FineCask [https://finecask.com]</li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]</li>
<li>Jack Daniels [https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]</li>
<li>EmberConf 2022 - Keynote Part 1 by Yehuda Katz [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgpnkR-oKec]</li>
<li>Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>Slack  [http://www.slack.com]</li>
<li>Angular [https://angular.io]</li>
<li>Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]</li>
<li>TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]</li>
<li>CrowdStrike [https://www.crowdstrike.com]</li>
<li>EmberConf 2019 - Comparing Patterns in React and Ember by Preston Sego [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1IkKWYszzk]</li>
<li>Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]</li>
<li>Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]</li>
<li>SolidJS [https://www.solidjs.com]</li>
<li>Vue.js [https://vuejs.org]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Emerging Tech, a Resource Renaissance, and Embracing Ember with Preston Sego</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jtni3pqvxy8ilw5pd8c6y017/n1llmi4wuuts4ayov0ozbww1.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3255</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;A few years into Preston Sego&#39;s coding career, a colleague working on increasing interactivity on the company&#39;s interface chose Ember for the endeavor. Years later, when Preston began developing his own project, he took his colleague&#39;s advice and began testing the waters with Ember as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 2019, Preston noticed interesting work brewing within Ember. Realizing Ember was adaptable to modern tools, Preston decided to dive back in and start building out a chat app to test the framework. That same year, Preston spoke at EmberConf and eventually landed a job at CrowdStrike where the framework of choice was Ember.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Preston talks with Chuck and Robbie about comparing Ember to React without angering either side, why he values Ember resources and has worked to create various libraries, what emerging tech Preston&#39;s thrilled to be working on, and what tech Preston&#39;s violently against. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:13] - The origin of Preston&#39;s alias. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:13] - A whiskey review - Malahat Rye.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:14] - How Preston got into Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:09] - The exciting tech projects Preston&#39;s working on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:21] - What Preston is looking forward to that&#39;s coming out soon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:13] - What tech Preston is violently against. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:17] - A corn-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:04] - Why Preston loves pinochle and boring cereal. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:09] - A deep dive on Starcraft. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:54] - What retro games Chuck is playing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:04] - &#34;I really like clinical comparisons between things because if you have any emotion whatsoever in a comparison article, you&#39;re going to upset one of the sides and you don&#39;t wanna do that.&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:10] - &#34;I think the most obvious and beneficial use case [of resources] is for data loading. Just because loading anything Async is a pain.&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:50] - &#34;The rfc is first-class component templates and it solves the biggest complaint that new hires have at my work where people are just like, &#39;I don&#39;t know how to find this thing, how do you find it?&#39;&#34; ~ Preston Sego [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preston Sego [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lprestonsegoiii/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preston on Twitter [https://twitter.com/nullvoxpopuli]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Malahat Spirits Co. Handcrafted 100% Rye [https://www.malahatspirits.com/rye-whiskey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;FineCask [https://finecask.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniels [https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer [https://glimmerjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf 2022 - Keynote Part 1 by Yehuda Katz [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgpnkR-oKec]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack  [http://www.slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike [https://www.crowdstrike.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf 2019 - Comparing Patterns in React and Ember by Preston Sego [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1IkKWYszzk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starbeam [https://github.com/wycats/starbeam/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SolidJS [https://www.solidjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vue.js [https://vuejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jtni3pqvxy8ilw5pd8c6y017/jmnl7kf3yg8plvty558b1du2/transcoded-01KECKDH5QY5PES3WYZWM6RTYF-01KECKDH5QHQXVGJAP5GNPRA3M_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A11y Hour with Eric Bailey</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In recent years, accessibility has evolved from a way to avoid legal landmines, to a specialization developers are taking a serious approach to for the sake of their companies, apps, and users. Eric Bailey has been at the forefront of this maturation, working as both an advocate and educator in the accessibility and inclusive design space. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A user experience designer by trade, Eric developed a passion for accessibility that led him to The A11Y Project – an open source, one-stop shop for digital accessibility education. Eric helps maintain the hub while writing and speaking about the intersectionality of code, usability, and disability. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Eric talks with Chuck and Robbie about the challenges of improving digital inclusivity, how to work through inclusive design on a budget, what bothers Eric about developers who are afraid to take the accessibility leap, where platforms fall short, and the tools that make implementing accessibility easier. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:39] - A brief intro to Eric. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review - Jefferson&#39;s Ocean Bourbon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:20] - How Eric got involved in accessibility and the A11Y Project.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:53] - How Eric solves for accessibility despite not being disabled. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:55] - How to solicit expertise from the disabled community even with a limited budget. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:35] - The best practices for getting started implementing accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:46] - A burgers-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:08] - Comics, Marvel, and streaming culture. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:05] - How the gaming industry is going through an accessibility renaissance.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[56:35] - A few closing thoughts from Eric. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:34] - &#34;I used to think [accessibility] shouldn&#39;t be a job because everybody should be doing it. But the more I explore this space, the more I understand there is a need for specialization like any other kind of technical consideration.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:00] - &#34;This is something that I try to be very cognizant of as I identify as abled but I speak with and interact with the disability community: the last thing I want to do is typecast or tokenize or suggest that this is the one true way to do things.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:16] - &#34;Bringing people in who are daily assistive technology users and having them actually navigate through things is an incredibly compelling, incredibly eye-opening experience.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eric Bailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;An accessibility checklist [https://www.a11yproject.com/checklist/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility posts  [https://www.a11yproject.com/posts/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility resources [https://www.a11yproject.com/resources/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Contribute to The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com/write-for-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git  [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&#39;s Ocean Voyage 24 [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-voyage-24/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Fitzgerald Whiskey [https://heavenhilldistillery.com/old-fitzgerald.php]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microformats [http://microformats.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix Run [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;11ty [https://www.11ty.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;element transition API [https://developer.chrome.com/blog/shared-element-transitions-for-spas/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Velveeta [https://www.kraftheinz-foodservice.com/products/0000070270/velveeta]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">575a34e0-0784-11ed-98d1-d3db16e79343</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/z2nt5lzixe3xoxbp3swamzic.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In recent years, accessibility has evolved from a way to avoid legal landmines, to a specialization developers are taking a serious approach to for the sake of their companies, apps, and users. Eric Bailey has been at the forefront of this maturation, working as both an advocate and educator in the accessibility and inclusive design space. </p>
<p>A user experience designer by trade, Eric developed a passion for accessibility that led him to The A11Y Project – an open source, one-stop shop for digital accessibility education. Eric helps maintain the hub while writing and speaking about the intersectionality of code, usability, and disability. </p>
<p>In this episode, Eric talks with Chuck and Robbie about the challenges of improving digital inclusivity, how to work through inclusive design on a budget, what bothers Eric about developers who are afraid to take the accessibility leap, where platforms fall short, and the tools that make implementing accessibility easier. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:39] - A brief intro to Eric. </li>
<li>[01:35] - A whiskey review - Jefferson's Ocean Bourbon.</li>
<li>[09:20] - How Eric got involved in accessibility and the A11Y Project.</li>
<li>[20:53] - How Eric solves for accessibility despite not being disabled. </li>
<li>[25:55] - How to solicit expertise from the disabled community even with a limited budget. </li>
<li>[28:35] - The best practices for getting started implementing accessibility. </li>
<li>[34:46] - A burgers-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[37:08] - Comics, Marvel, and streaming culture. </li>
<li>[48:05] - How the gaming industry is going through an accessibility renaissance.</li>
<li>[56:35] - A few closing thoughts from Eric. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[10:34] - "I used to think [accessibility] shouldn't be a job because everybody should be doing it. But the more I explore this space, the more I understand there is a need for specialization like any other kind of technical consideration." ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]</p>
<p>[22:00] - "This is something that I try to be very cognizant of as I identify as abled but I speak with and interact with the disability community: the last thing I want to do is typecast or tokenize or suggest that this is the one true way to do things." ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]</p>
<p>[24:16] - "Bringing people in who are daily assistive technology users and having them actually navigate through things is an incredibly compelling, incredibly eye-opening experience." ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Eric Bailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]</li>
<li>The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com]</li>
<li>An accessibility checklist [https://www.a11yproject.com/checklist/]</li>
<li>Accessibility posts  [https://www.a11yproject.com/posts/]</li>
<li>Accessibility resources [https://www.a11yproject.com/resources/]</li>
<li>Contribute to The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com/write-for-us/]</li>
<li>Git  [https://git-scm.com]</li>
<li>Jefferson's Ocean Voyage 24 [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-voyage-24/]</li>
<li>Old Fitzgerald Whiskey [https://heavenhilldistillery.com/old-fitzgerald.php]</li>
<li>Microformats [http://microformats.org]</li>
<li>National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com]</li>
<li>Remix Run [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>11ty [https://www.11ty.dev]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>element transition API [https://developer.chrome.com/blog/shared-element-transitions-for-spas/]</li>
<li>Velveeta [https://www.kraftheinz-foodservice.com/products/0000070270/velveeta]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A11y Hour with Eric Bailey</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/z2nt5lzixe3xoxbp3swamzic/ba5a0r41kvtu94vg3e8xw4jk.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3595</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In recent years, accessibility has evolved from a way to avoid legal landmines, to a specialization developers are taking a serious approach to for the sake of their companies, apps, and users. Eric Bailey has been at the forefront of this maturation, working as both an advocate and educator in the accessibility and inclusive design space. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A user experience designer by trade, Eric developed a passion for accessibility that led him to The A11Y Project – an open source, one-stop shop for digital accessibility education. Eric helps maintain the hub while writing and speaking about the intersectionality of code, usability, and disability. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Eric talks with Chuck and Robbie about the challenges of improving digital inclusivity, how to work through inclusive design on a budget, what bothers Eric about developers who are afraid to take the accessibility leap, where platforms fall short, and the tools that make implementing accessibility easier. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:39] - A brief intro to Eric. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review - Jefferson&#39;s Ocean Bourbon.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:20] - How Eric got involved in accessibility and the A11Y Project.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:53] - How Eric solves for accessibility despite not being disabled. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:55] - How to solicit expertise from the disabled community even with a limited budget. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:35] - The best practices for getting started implementing accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:46] - A burgers-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:08] - Comics, Marvel, and streaming culture. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:05] - How the gaming industry is going through an accessibility renaissance.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[56:35] - A few closing thoughts from Eric. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:34] - &#34;I used to think [accessibility] shouldn&#39;t be a job because everybody should be doing it. But the more I explore this space, the more I understand there is a need for specialization like any other kind of technical consideration.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:00] - &#34;This is something that I try to be very cognizant of as I identify as abled but I speak with and interact with the disability community: the last thing I want to do is typecast or tokenize or suggest that this is the one true way to do things.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:16] - &#34;Bringing people in who are daily assistive technology users and having them actually navigate through things is an incredibly compelling, incredibly eye-opening experience.&#34; ~ @ericwbailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eric Bailey [https://twitter.com/ericwbailey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;An accessibility checklist [https://www.a11yproject.com/checklist/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility posts  [https://www.a11yproject.com/posts/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Accessibility resources [https://www.a11yproject.com/resources/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Contribute to The A11Y Project [https://www.a11yproject.com/write-for-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git  [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jefferson&#39;s Ocean Voyage 24 [https://jeffersonsbourbon.com/jeffersons-ocean-voyage-24/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Fitzgerald Whiskey [https://heavenhilldistillery.com/old-fitzgerald.php]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microformats [http://microformats.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix Run [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;11ty [https://www.11ty.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;element transition API [https://developer.chrome.com/blog/shared-element-transitions-for-spas/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Velveeta [https://www.kraftheinz-foodservice.com/products/0000070270/velveeta]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/z2nt5lzixe3xoxbp3swamzic/qfcji55i80r8qtszkkw2ltok/transcoded-01KECKDHXWJNA7Z7VJQPWE5YAJ-01KECKDHXW5SDWTN0KJWVS8HZS_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Developing Orbit and the Future of Cross Framework Solutions with Dan Gebhardt</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Years ago, Dan Gebhardt was mapping out data needs for an app he was building. In a struggle to make sense of every requirement and apply them to other packages like Ember Data, he hit a wall. At this point, there was no option for adapting Ember Data to the complex specificities of his app&#39;s needs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan tried to rationalize a solution, deconstructing entire data universes and all aspects of a data library. The end result was Orbit, a framework-agnostic data layer with use cases beyond the obvious. Since its inception, many developers have leaned on Orbit, including those at Ship Shape. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Dan about Orbit&#39;s origin story, the best (and least obvious) ways to use Orbit, why Dan chose platform-agnostic, what he really thinks about Starbeam, his ultimate goal with Orbit, and Dan&#39;s all-time favorite power tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:45] - A brief intro to Dan. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:02] - A whiskey review - Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:04] - Why Dan created Orbit. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:47] - Unexpected use cases for Orbit. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:42] - How Orbit flags a conflict. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:33] - Orbit&#39;s use cases outside of JSON:API.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:46] - What Dan thinks about Starbeam. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:12] - How Dan escapes his computer. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:32] - Dan&#39;s favorite power tool. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:33] - Dan&#39;s thoughts on New Hampshire (and New Jersey).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:46] - Dan&#39;s closing thoughts and his sneak peek at a new release. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:28] - &#34;Sometimes building for the hard case first also helps clarify the simple case and I think that Orbit really scales from the very simple to the very complex set of requirements.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:47] - &#34;That&#39;s one of my favorite aspects of working with Orbit is using it as simply as possible to just prototype an app really quickly.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[33:32] - &#34;The frameworks have too long been siloed and we are now seeing some really interesting cross framework solutions out there, whether you&#39;re talking about Starbeam or even something like Remix or Astro.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Gebhardt [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team Emeritus [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit.js [https://github.com/orbitjs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tilde  [https://www.tilde.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby On Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSONAPI::Resources [https://jsonapi-resources.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/singlemalt-miyagikyo/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nikka From The Barrel [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/fromthebarrel/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Glencairn Whiskey Glass [https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Norlan Whiskey Glass [https://norlanglass.com/pages/norlan-whisky-glass]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IndexedDB [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swach [https://swach.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo  [https://www.apollographql.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)  [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">8e5f63e8-02b6-11ed-9562-5b55a40462a8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/gyf6v7v53fkc6jz3m7vo3r20.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago, Dan Gebhardt was mapping out data needs for an app he was building. In a struggle to make sense of every requirement and apply them to other packages like Ember Data, he hit a wall. At this point, there was no option for adapting Ember Data to the complex specificities of his app's needs. </p>
<p>Dan tried to rationalize a solution, deconstructing entire data universes and all aspects of a data library. The end result was Orbit, a framework-agnostic data layer with use cases beyond the obvious. Since its inception, many developers have leaned on Orbit, including those at Ship Shape. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Dan about Orbit's origin story, the best (and least obvious) ways to use Orbit, why Dan chose platform-agnostic, what he really thinks about Starbeam, his ultimate goal with Orbit, and Dan's all-time favorite power tool. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:45] - A brief intro to Dan. </li>
<li>[03:02] - A whiskey review - Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo. </li>
<li>[11:04] - Why Dan created Orbit. </li>
<li>[15:47] - Unexpected use cases for Orbit. </li>
<li>[21:42] - How Orbit flags a conflict. </li>
<li>[25:33] - Orbit's use cases outside of JSON:API.</li>
<li>[32:46] - What Dan thinks about Starbeam. </li>
<li>[35:12] - How Dan escapes his computer. </li>
<li>[40:32] - Dan's favorite power tool. </li>
<li>[42:33] - Dan's thoughts on New Hampshire (and New Jersey).</li>
<li>[48:46] - Dan's closing thoughts and his sneak peek at a new release. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[13:28] - "Sometimes building for the hard case first also helps clarify the simple case and I think that Orbit really scales from the very simple to the very complex set of requirements." ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]</p>
<p>[17:47] - "That's one of my favorite aspects of working with Orbit is using it as simply as possible to just prototype an app really quickly." ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]</p>
<p>[33:32] - "The frameworks have too long been siloed and we are now seeing some really interesting cross framework solutions out there, whether you're talking about Starbeam or even something like Remix or Astro." ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Dan Gebhardt [https://twitter.com/dgeb]</li>
<li>Ember Core Team Emeritus [https://emberjs.com/teams/]</li>
<li>JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]</li>
<li>Orbit.js [https://github.com/orbitjs]</li>
<li>Tilde  [https://www.tilde.io]</li>
<li>Ruby On Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]</li>
<li>Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]</li>
<li>JSONAPI::Resources [https://jsonapi-resources.com]</li>
<li>Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/singlemalt-miyagikyo/]</li>
<li>Nikka From The Barrel [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/fromthebarrel/]</li>
<li>The Glencairn Whiskey Glass [https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com]</li>
<li>The Norlan Whiskey Glass [https://norlanglass.com/pages/norlan-whisky-glass]</li>
<li>GraphQL [https://graphql.org]</li>
<li>IndexedDB [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API]</li>
<li>Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]</li>
<li>Swach [https://swach.io/]</li>
<li>Git [https://git-scm.com]</li>
<li>Apollo  [https://www.apollographql.com]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)  [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]</li>
<li>LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Developing Orbit and the Future of Cross Framework Solutions with Dan Gebhardt</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gyf6v7v53fkc6jz3m7vo3r20/u01uqf1arpiby2ydsk89dq7e.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3112</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Years ago, Dan Gebhardt was mapping out data needs for an app he was building. In a struggle to make sense of every requirement and apply them to other packages like Ember Data, he hit a wall. At this point, there was no option for adapting Ember Data to the complex specificities of his app&#39;s needs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan tried to rationalize a solution, deconstructing entire data universes and all aspects of a data library. The end result was Orbit, a framework-agnostic data layer with use cases beyond the obvious. Since its inception, many developers have leaned on Orbit, including those at Ship Shape. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Dan about Orbit&#39;s origin story, the best (and least obvious) ways to use Orbit, why Dan chose platform-agnostic, what he really thinks about Starbeam, his ultimate goal with Orbit, and Dan&#39;s all-time favorite power tool. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:45] - A brief intro to Dan. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:02] - A whiskey review - Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:04] - Why Dan created Orbit. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:47] - Unexpected use cases for Orbit. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:42] - How Orbit flags a conflict. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:33] - Orbit&#39;s use cases outside of JSON:API.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:46] - What Dan thinks about Starbeam. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:12] - How Dan escapes his computer. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:32] - Dan&#39;s favorite power tool. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:33] - Dan&#39;s thoughts on New Hampshire (and New Jersey).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:46] - Dan&#39;s closing thoughts and his sneak peek at a new release. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:28] - &#34;Sometimes building for the hard case first also helps clarify the simple case and I think that Orbit really scales from the very simple to the very complex set of requirements.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:47] - &#34;That&#39;s one of my favorite aspects of working with Orbit is using it as simply as possible to just prototype an app really quickly.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[33:32] - &#34;The frameworks have too long been siloed and we are now seeing some really interesting cross framework solutions out there, whether you&#39;re talking about Starbeam or even something like Remix or Astro.&#34; ~ @dgeb [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Gebhardt [https://twitter.com/dgeb]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team Emeritus [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit.js [https://github.com/orbitjs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tilde  [https://www.tilde.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby On Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSONAPI::Resources [https://jsonapi-resources.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nikka Single Malt Miyagikyo [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/singlemalt-miyagikyo/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nikka From The Barrel [https://www.nikka.com/eng/brands/fromthebarrel/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Glencairn Whiskey Glass [https://www.glencairnwhiskyglass.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Norlan Whiskey Glass [https://norlanglass.com/pages/norlan-whisky-glass]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IndexedDB [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swach [https://swach.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo  [https://www.apollographql.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)  [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/gyf6v7v53fkc6jz3m7vo3r20/b5j3e1rhdcasqqaj44moaldo/transcoded-01KECKDGJ0FCTFWTT6RKGMNY43-01KECKDGJ0RW5KQF4MMYPR6HR9_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Matt Johnson: When Web3 Is Worth It and Learning to Lead</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In high school, Matt Johnson followed in the footsteps of his older brother, pursuing similar hobbies like sports and music. After joining a band, Matt realized they needed a website. Mirroring his brother, Matt learned to code, built a website, and changed his college major.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Following graduation, Matt dove into business ownership, buying out the company he interned for with a business partner. That once small operation has grown to a team of over 100 and as of July 1st, Matt will be Midwestern Interactive&#39;s sole owner. Like Chuck and Robbie, Matt made the switch from programmer to business owner and is committed to his role as a people and business leader. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Matt talks with Chuck and Robbie about learning to love coding, Matt&#39;s philosophy on tech and business, what&#39;s valuable and what&#39;s fluff with Web3, and why Matt took up golf after putting coding on the backburner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:29] - A brief introduction to Matt. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:24] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:34] - How Matt discovered coding. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:17] - Matt&#39;s (and Robbie&#39;s) music career. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:14] - How Matt decides what tech to work with. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:33] - How often Matt actually codes as a business owner. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:56] - The very last piece of billable code Matt wrote for Midwestern Interactive.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:39] - How Matt views the value of Web3.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:40] - What golf and programming have in common.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:23] - What other businesses Matt runs and how those ventures came to be. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:20] - What Matt thinks of YAML. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:58] - How Chuck and Robbie strategize with tech and testing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:42] - How Matt produces consistently strong outcomes. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:25] - &#34;It&#39;s pretty crazy, right? You leverage the tools for what you love to do, and then you fall in love with the tool. It&#39;s a really interesting thing. I remember the idea of telling a computer what to do was just baffling to me. I can just create my own anything.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:26] - &#34;When you are running a business you have to be able to be the right person for the job at any given moment. And you have to have that ability to change your priorities to meet the priorities of the people setting the priorities.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:57] - &#34;When you base your decisions on what&#39;s right, it&#39;s a whole lot easier to go to sleep at night. And getting good rest is very important in the progression of your business.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Midwestern Interactive [https://midwesterninteractive.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W.L. Weller Antique 107 [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&#39;s Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bart Paden [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mediaphish/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Christ In Youth [https://ciy.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Jordan Howerton Band [https://www.jordanhowerton.net]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Myspace [https://myspace.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALS Lead and Win [https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1250067057]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a494264e-fd61-11ec-9aae-2b1e11011e67</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/rpgiavyien2ttn30q2p0dccp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In high school, Matt Johnson followed in the footsteps of his older brother, pursuing similar hobbies like sports and music. After joining a band, Matt realized they needed a website. Mirroring his brother, Matt learned to code, built a website, and changed his college major.</p>
<p>Following graduation, Matt dove into business ownership, buying out the company he interned for with a business partner. That once small operation has grown to a team of over 100 and as of July 1st, Matt will be Midwestern Interactive's sole owner. Like Chuck and Robbie, Matt made the switch from programmer to business owner and is committed to his role as a people and business leader. </p>
<p>In this episode, Matt talks with Chuck and Robbie about learning to love coding, Matt's philosophy on tech and business, what's valuable and what's fluff with Web3, and why Matt took up golf after putting coding on the backburner.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:29] - A brief introduction to Matt. </li>
<li>[01:24] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[08:34] - How Matt discovered coding. </li>
<li>[12:17] - Matt's (and Robbie's) music career. </li>
<li>[15:14] - How Matt decides what tech to work with. </li>
<li>[16:33] - How often Matt actually codes as a business owner. </li>
<li>[22:56] - The very last piece of billable code Matt wrote for Midwestern Interactive.</li>
<li>[26:39] - How Matt views the value of Web3.</li>
<li>[34:40] - What golf and programming have in common.</li>
<li>[39:23] - What other businesses Matt runs and how those ventures came to be. </li>
<li>[44:20] - What Matt thinks of YAML. </li>
<li>[44:58] - How Chuck and Robbie strategize with tech and testing. </li>
<li>[52:42] - How Matt produces consistently strong outcomes. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[14:25] - "It's pretty crazy, right? You leverage the tools for what you love to do, and then you fall in love with the tool. It's a really interesting thing. I remember the idea of telling a computer what to do was just baffling to me. I can just create my own anything." ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]</p>
<p>[18:26] - "When you are running a business you have to be able to be the right person for the job at any given moment. And you have to have that ability to change your priorities to meet the priorities of the people setting the priorities." ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]</p>
<p>[18:57] - "When you base your decisions on what's right, it's a whole lot easier to go to sleep at night. And getting good rest is very important in the progression of your business." ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]</li>
<li>Midwestern Interactive [https://midwesterninteractive.com/]</li>
<li>W.L. Weller Antique 107 [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html]</li>
<li>Pappy Van Winkle's Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]</li>
<li>Maker's Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]</li>
<li>Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]</li>
<li>Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com/]</li>
<li>Bart Paden [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mediaphish/]</li>
<li>Christ In Youth [https://ciy.com/]</li>
<li>The Jordan Howerton Band [https://www.jordanhowerton.net]</li>
<li>Myspace [https://myspace.com]</li>
<li>Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALS Lead and Win [https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1250067057]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Matt Johnson: When Web3 Is Worth It and Learning to Lead</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rpgiavyien2ttn30q2p0dccp/nxrgmdga3b28rulsn724wsev.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3313</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In high school, Matt Johnson followed in the footsteps of his older brother, pursuing similar hobbies like sports and music. After joining a band, Matt realized they needed a website. Mirroring his brother, Matt learned to code, built a website, and changed his college major.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Following graduation, Matt dove into business ownership, buying out the company he interned for with a business partner. That once small operation has grown to a team of over 100 and as of July 1st, Matt will be Midwestern Interactive&#39;s sole owner. Like Chuck and Robbie, Matt made the switch from programmer to business owner and is committed to his role as a people and business leader. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Matt talks with Chuck and Robbie about learning to love coding, Matt&#39;s philosophy on tech and business, what&#39;s valuable and what&#39;s fluff with Web3, and why Matt took up golf after putting coding on the backburner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:29] - A brief introduction to Matt. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:24] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:34] - How Matt discovered coding. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:17] - Matt&#39;s (and Robbie&#39;s) music career. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:14] - How Matt decides what tech to work with. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:33] - How often Matt actually codes as a business owner. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:56] - The very last piece of billable code Matt wrote for Midwestern Interactive.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:39] - How Matt views the value of Web3.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:40] - What golf and programming have in common.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:23] - What other businesses Matt runs and how those ventures came to be. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:20] - What Matt thinks of YAML. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:58] - How Chuck and Robbie strategize with tech and testing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:42] - How Matt produces consistently strong outcomes. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:25] - &#34;It&#39;s pretty crazy, right? You leverage the tools for what you love to do, and then you fall in love with the tool. It&#39;s a really interesting thing. I remember the idea of telling a computer what to do was just baffling to me. I can just create my own anything.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:26] - &#34;When you are running a business you have to be able to be the right person for the job at any given moment. And you have to have that ability to change your priorities to meet the priorities of the people setting the priorities.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:57] - &#34;When you base your decisions on what&#39;s right, it&#39;s a whole lot easier to go to sleep at night. And getting good rest is very important in the progression of your business.&#34; ~ Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Johnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-johnson-71a059b3/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Midwestern Interactive [https://midwesterninteractive.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W.L. Weller Antique 107 [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller/w-l-weller-antique.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&#39;s Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark [https://www.makersmark.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bart Paden [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mediaphish/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Christ In Youth [https://ciy.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Jordan Howerton Band [https://www.jordanhowerton.net]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Myspace [https://myspace.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALS Lead and Win [https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1250067057]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/rpgiavyien2ttn30q2p0dccp/kg1460yi8rezjdlxls60an9m/transcoded-01KECKE5C5AS9WMBA1JHE8Q19J-01KECKE5C52EAMFRKK9ZJC3PER_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Polaris, Starbeam, and the Future of Ember with Godfrey Chan</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In 2022, the future of Ember is taking shape thanks to developers like Godfrey Chan. Alongside Yehuda Katz and other engineers, Godfrey&#39;s working on a new edition of Polaris. The project has three main goals: to align Ember with the modern npm packaging system, continue to invest and innovate in reactivity, and encourage universal design principles. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like many developers, Godfrey came to Ember from Rails. Months after chatting with Yehuda and Tom Dale at EmberConf, Godfrey was hired at Tilde and thrown into the Ember deep end. Today, Godfrey&#39;s focused on big picture developments, tackling lofty goals like developing an Ember model to navigate JavaScript classes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Godfrey talks with Chuck and Robbie about what&#39;s to come for Polaris, solving major developer headaches, Godfrey&#39;s philosophy on frameworks, top use cases for solutions like Starbeam, and why these innovations are necessary in 2022.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:29] - A quick intro to Godfrey. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:49] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:27] - A sneak peek at Polaris.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:15] - Why Polaris is about easy transitions.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:11] - How Polaris plans to evolve. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:54] - How Godfrey got into Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:30] - What Starbeam is.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:50] - Use cases for Starbeam.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:03] - Why Starbeam is necessary in 2022.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:49] - A hobby and people-watching themed Whatnot.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:54] - &#34;Tools like TypeScript don&#39;t automatically just understand what&#39;s up within ember app. At least one of the things for Polaris is to figure out how we can transition to a world where we don&#39;t have those little tiny differences anymore so that when you open a project in VS Code, TypeScript just knows what&#39;s up.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[37:46] - &#34;I think conceptually, a reactivity layer that is decoupled from the framework makes a lot of sense to me because there&#39;s just a lot of libraries and abstractions that you want to write that eventually, you want people to be able to use them in UI.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[39:31] - &#34;I think having something like Starbeam where you can express those reactivity concepts or those annotations without making your library only usable in React or Vue or whatever is a good thing to have in 2022.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godfrey Chan [https://twitter.com/chancancode]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails Core Team [https://rubyonrails.org/community]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails [https://rubyonrails.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tilde [https://www.tilde.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lyre&#39;s American Malt [https://lyres.com/range/american-malt/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Multnomah Whiskey Library [https://mwlpdx.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godfrey&#39;s EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-2]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slides [https://speakerdeck.com/chancancode/virtual-emberconf-2022-platform-state-of-the-union)]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda&#39;s EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-1]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slides [https://ember.slides.com/users/sign_in]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Inspector [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ember-inspector/bmdblncegkenkacieihfhpjfppoconhi]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;webpack [https://webpack.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">199fb54c-f7c8-11ec-a086-e36d39e4de7d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mrjru4htrdnuo23u35ky4mv6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2022, the future of Ember is taking shape thanks to developers like Godfrey Chan. Alongside Yehuda Katz and other engineers, Godfrey's working on a new edition of Polaris. The project has three main goals: to align Ember with the modern npm packaging system, continue to invest and innovate in reactivity, and encourage universal design principles. </p>
<p>Like many developers, Godfrey came to Ember from Rails. Months after chatting with Yehuda and Tom Dale at EmberConf, Godfrey was hired at Tilde and thrown into the Ember deep end. Today, Godfrey's focused on big picture developments, tackling lofty goals like developing an Ember model to navigate JavaScript classes.</p>
<p>In this episode, Godfrey talks with Chuck and Robbie about what's to come for Polaris, solving major developer headaches, Godfrey's philosophy on frameworks, top use cases for solutions like Starbeam, and why these innovations are necessary in 2022.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:29] - A quick intro to Godfrey. </li>
<li>[01:49] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[09:27] - A sneak peek at Polaris.</li>
<li>[16:15] - Why Polaris is about easy transitions.</li>
<li>[20:11] - How Polaris plans to evolve. </li>
<li>[24:54] - How Godfrey got into Ember. </li>
<li>[27:30] - What Starbeam is.</li>
<li>[32:50] - Use cases for Starbeam.  </li>
<li>[36:03] - Why Starbeam is necessary in 2022.</li>
<li>[39:49] - A hobby and people-watching themed Whatnot.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[14:54] - "Tools like TypeScript don't automatically just understand what's up within ember app. At least one of the things for Polaris is to figure out how we can transition to a world where we don't have those little tiny differences anymore so that when you open a project in VS Code, TypeScript just knows what's up." ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] </p>
<p>[37:46] - "I think conceptually, a reactivity layer that is decoupled from the framework makes a lot of sense to me because there's just a lot of libraries and abstractions that you want to write that eventually, you want people to be able to use them in UI." ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] </p>
<p>[39:31] - "I think having something like Starbeam where you can express those reactivity concepts or those annotations without making your library only usable in React or Vue or whatever is a good thing to have in 2022." ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] </p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Godfrey Chan [https://twitter.com/chancancode]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]</li>
<li>Rails Core Team [https://rubyonrails.org/community]</li>
<li>Ruby on Rails [https://rubyonrails.org] </li>
<li>Tilde [https://www.tilde.io]</li>
<li>Lyre's American Malt [https://lyres.com/range/american-malt/]</li>
<li>Multnomah Whiskey Library [https://mwlpdx.com]</li>
<li>EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]</li>
<li>Godfrey's EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-2]</li>
<li>Slides [https://speakerdeck.com/chancancode/virtual-emberconf-2022-platform-state-of-the-union)]</li>
<li>Yehuda's EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-1]</li>
<li>Slides [https://ember.slides.com/users/sign_in]</li>
<li>Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]</li>
<li>Ember Inspector [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ember-inspector/bmdblncegkenkacieihfhpjfppoconhi]</li>
<li>TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>webpack [https://webpack.js.org]</li>
<li>Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Polaris, Starbeam, and the Future of Ember with Godfrey Chan</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mrjru4htrdnuo23u35ky4mv6/mfdiu15shocd2ns2koivkrh0.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3271</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In 2022, the future of Ember is taking shape thanks to developers like Godfrey Chan. Alongside Yehuda Katz and other engineers, Godfrey&#39;s working on a new edition of Polaris. The project has three main goals: to align Ember with the modern npm packaging system, continue to invest and innovate in reactivity, and encourage universal design principles. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like many developers, Godfrey came to Ember from Rails. Months after chatting with Yehuda and Tom Dale at EmberConf, Godfrey was hired at Tilde and thrown into the Ember deep end. Today, Godfrey&#39;s focused on big picture developments, tackling lofty goals like developing an Ember model to navigate JavaScript classes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Godfrey talks with Chuck and Robbie about what&#39;s to come for Polaris, solving major developer headaches, Godfrey&#39;s philosophy on frameworks, top use cases for solutions like Starbeam, and why these innovations are necessary in 2022.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:29] - A quick intro to Godfrey. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:49] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:27] - A sneak peek at Polaris.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:15] - Why Polaris is about easy transitions.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:11] - How Polaris plans to evolve. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:54] - How Godfrey got into Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:30] - What Starbeam is.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:50] - Use cases for Starbeam.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:03] - Why Starbeam is necessary in 2022.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:49] - A hobby and people-watching themed Whatnot.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:54] - &#34;Tools like TypeScript don&#39;t automatically just understand what&#39;s up within ember app. At least one of the things for Polaris is to figure out how we can transition to a world where we don&#39;t have those little tiny differences anymore so that when you open a project in VS Code, TypeScript just knows what&#39;s up.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[37:46] - &#34;I think conceptually, a reactivity layer that is decoupled from the framework makes a lot of sense to me because there&#39;s just a lot of libraries and abstractions that you want to write that eventually, you want people to be able to use them in UI.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[39:31] - &#34;I think having something like Starbeam where you can express those reactivity concepts or those annotations without making your library only usable in React or Vue or whatever is a good thing to have in 2022.&#34; ~ @chancancode [https://twitter.com/chancancode] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godfrey Chan [https://twitter.com/chancancode]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails Core Team [https://rubyonrails.org/community]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails [https://rubyonrails.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tilde [https://www.tilde.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lyre&#39;s American Malt [https://lyres.com/range/american-malt/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Multnomah Whiskey Library [https://mwlpdx.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Godfrey&#39;s EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-2]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slides [https://speakerdeck.com/chancancode/virtual-emberconf-2022-platform-state-of-the-union)]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda&#39;s EmberConf 2022 Keynote [https://2022.emberconf.com/talks/keynote-part-1]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slides [https://ember.slides.com/users/sign_in]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Inspector [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ember-inspector/bmdblncegkenkacieihfhpjfppoconhi]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;webpack [https://webpack.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mrjru4htrdnuo23u35ky4mv6/t67ce9s3ihfxzk0ibjer6i5m/transcoded-01KECKDHV2XWKHVAD7M3JW1Q0M-01KECKDHV2JRY83YHEW0G4HDT0_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Reacting to React, WWDC22, and Bun.sh</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Robbie has spent years trying to improve his experience in the terminal. Fortunately, he&#39;s learned a few things about customization along the way. Meanwhile, Chuck and Robbie have thoughts about Apple&#39;s new products, the purpose of React, plus Fig, Hyper, Warp, and everything in between. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss everything you probably don&#39;t know about terminals, why Robbie&#39;s eyeing Redwood, what Chuck and Robbie actually paid attention to from WWDC22, why developers are so excited about Bun, and why Chuck&#39;s trip to Italy was semi-catastrophic. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:48] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:07] - Robbie&#39;s terminal tips and tricks. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Why looking cool matters the most. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:28] - A few interesting things from WWDC.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:55] - Chuck and Robbie react to React. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:00] - A whatnot about Chuck&#39;s semi-catastrophic trip to Italy. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:11] - An update on the Ship Shape NFT.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:23] - &#34;Bash hasn&#39;t innovated at all. It&#39;s the same thing it&#39;s always been. It does its job but I don&#39;t need to remember all that stuff. Give me some auto-complete and some nice color themes and cool stuff.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:11] - &#34;I know Next. I don&#39;t even have to know Next and I know it because it&#39;s a good framework. React by itself is just a huge learning curve. Because it&#39;s like, &#39;ok we&#39;re going to do all this stuff that looks nothing like anything anyone else is doing.&#39;&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:54] - &#34;React is becoming more opinionated as its user base continues to grow and becomes more opinionated.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beast Masters Club Private Barrell - Elijah Craig - &#34;Three Tenors, Hogze Carreras&#34;  [https://www.beastmastersclub.com/shop/pinhook-gn4pm-92ty8-zpx4f]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [http://www.slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: A Battle of Two Worlds and Mentorship Above Milestones with Cory Brown [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/a-battle-of-two-worlds-and-mentorship-above-milestones-with-cory-brown/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eagle Rare [https://eaglerare.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;5 Tips to Improve Your Terminal Experience [https://shipshape.io/blog/five-tips-to-improve-your-terminal-experience/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon [http://www.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm  [https://iterm2.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hyper [https://hyper.is]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp [https://www.warp.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;fish shell [https://fishshell.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fig [https://fig.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Z shell  [https://zsh.sourceforge.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;dotfiles [https://dotfiles.github.io]  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew [https://brew.sh]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew cask [https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MonoLisa font [https://www.monolisa.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starship [https://starship.rs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Node.js [https://nodejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun [https://bun.sh]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;API Routes [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-routes/introduction]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Middleware [https://nextjs.org/docs/advanced-features/middleware]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WWDC22 [https://developer.apple.com/wwdc22/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">eb36daaa-f245-11ec-8c0a-5b250468e3d0</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/aqgsafn69mbhtzgmr4p7a6w0.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie has spent years trying to improve his experience in the terminal. Fortunately, he's learned a few things about customization along the way. Meanwhile, Chuck and Robbie have thoughts about Apple's new products, the purpose of React, plus Fig, Hyper, Warp, and everything in between. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss everything you probably don't know about terminals, why Robbie's eyeing Redwood, what Chuck and Robbie actually paid attention to from WWDC22, why developers are so excited about Bun, and why Chuck's trip to Italy was semi-catastrophic. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:48] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[09:07] - Robbie's terminal tips and tricks. </li>
<li>[15:38] - Why looking cool matters the most. </li>
<li>[22:28] - A few interesting things from WWDC.</li>
<li>[28:55] - Chuck and Robbie react to React. </li>
<li>[34:00] - A whatnot about Chuck's semi-catastrophic trip to Italy. </li>
<li>[49:11] - An update on the Ship Shape NFT.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[15:23] - "Bash hasn't innovated at all. It's the same thing it's always been. It does its job but I don't need to remember all that stuff. Give me some auto-complete and some nice color themes and cool stuff." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[29:11] - "I know Next. I don't even have to know Next and I know it because it's a good framework. React by itself is just a huge learning curve. Because it's like, 'ok we're going to do all this stuff that looks nothing like anything anyone else is doing.'" ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[29:54] - "React is becoming more opinionated as its user base continues to grow and becomes more opinionated." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Beast Masters Club Private Barrell - Elijah Craig - "Three Tenors, Hogze Carreras"  [https://www.beastmastersclub.com/shop/pinhook-gn4pm-92ty8-zpx4f]</li>
<li>Slack [http://www.slack.com]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: A Battle of Two Worlds and Mentorship Above Milestones with Cory Brown [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/a-battle-of-two-worlds-and-mentorship-above-milestones-with-cory-brown/]</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]</li>
<li>Eagle Rare [https://eaglerare.com]</li>
<li>The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com]</li>
<li>5 Tips to Improve Your Terminal Experience [https://shipshape.io/blog/five-tips-to-improve-your-terminal-experience/]</li>
<li>Amazon [http://www.amazon.com]</li>
<li>iTerm  [https://iterm2.com]</li>
<li>Hyper [https://hyper.is]</li>
<li>Warp [https://www.warp.dev]</li>
<li>fish shell [https://fishshell.com]</li>
<li>Fig [https://fig.io]</li>
<li>Z shell  [https://zsh.sourceforge.io]</li>
<li>dotfiles [https://dotfiles.github.io]  </li>
<li>Homebrew [https://brew.sh]</li>
<li>Homebrew cask [https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask] </li>
<li>MonoLisa font [https://www.monolisa.dev]</li>
<li>Starship [https://starship.rs]</li>
<li>Node.js [https://nodejs.org]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]</li>
<li>Bun [https://bun.sh]</li>
<li>Discord  [https://discord.com]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>API Routes [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-routes/introduction]</li>
<li>Middleware [https://nextjs.org/docs/advanced-features/middleware]</li>
<li>WWDC22 [https://developer.apple.com/wwdc22/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Reacting to React, WWDC22, and Bun.sh</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/aqgsafn69mbhtzgmr4p7a6w0/bbhivvn3ezec6urwnxx5trtl.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3267</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Robbie has spent years trying to improve his experience in the terminal. Fortunately, he&#39;s learned a few things about customization along the way. Meanwhile, Chuck and Robbie have thoughts about Apple&#39;s new products, the purpose of React, plus Fig, Hyper, Warp, and everything in between. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss everything you probably don&#39;t know about terminals, why Robbie&#39;s eyeing Redwood, what Chuck and Robbie actually paid attention to from WWDC22, why developers are so excited about Bun, and why Chuck&#39;s trip to Italy was semi-catastrophic. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:48] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:07] - Robbie&#39;s terminal tips and tricks. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Why looking cool matters the most. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:28] - A few interesting things from WWDC.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:55] - Chuck and Robbie react to React. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:00] - A whatnot about Chuck&#39;s semi-catastrophic trip to Italy. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:11] - An update on the Ship Shape NFT.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:23] - &#34;Bash hasn&#39;t innovated at all. It&#39;s the same thing it&#39;s always been. It does its job but I don&#39;t need to remember all that stuff. Give me some auto-complete and some nice color themes and cool stuff.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:11] - &#34;I know Next. I don&#39;t even have to know Next and I know it because it&#39;s a good framework. React by itself is just a huge learning curve. Because it&#39;s like, &#39;ok we&#39;re going to do all this stuff that looks nothing like anything anyone else is doing.&#39;&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:54] - &#34;React is becoming more opinionated as its user base continues to grow and becomes more opinionated.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Beast Masters Club Private Barrell - Elijah Craig - &#34;Three Tenors, Hogze Carreras&#34;  [https://www.beastmastersclub.com/shop/pinhook-gn4pm-92ty8-zpx4f]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [http://www.slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: A Battle of Two Worlds and Mentorship Above Milestones with Cory Brown [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/a-battle-of-two-worlds-and-mentorship-above-milestones-with-cory-brown/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eagle Rare [https://eaglerare.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;5 Tips to Improve Your Terminal Experience [https://shipshape.io/blog/five-tips-to-improve-your-terminal-experience/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon [http://www.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm  [https://iterm2.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hyper [https://hyper.is]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp [https://www.warp.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;fish shell [https://fishshell.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fig [https://fig.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Z shell  [https://zsh.sourceforge.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;dotfiles [https://dotfiles.github.io]  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew [https://brew.sh]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Homebrew cask [https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MonoLisa font [https://www.monolisa.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starship [https://starship.rs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Node.js [https://nodejs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bun [https://bun.sh]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;API Routes [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-routes/introduction]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Middleware [https://nextjs.org/docs/advanced-features/middleware]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WWDC22 [https://developer.apple.com/wwdc22/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/aqgsafn69mbhtzgmr4p7a6w0/y5fm0hkmmk20injwi1tgetgc/transcoded-01KECKDMEMF23D4JJQF5YYT7S6-01KECKDMEMMYKMNW2JCCZCSPN0_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A Battle of Two Worlds and Mentorship Above Milestones with Cory Brown</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s not often that a blog post sets the internet on fire. But a recent post by Cory Brown about async/await led to an uproar and even messages of pity from Hacker News. Who knew a simple post about pattern preferences would cause such controversy? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Cory&#39;s here to explain his side of the story for those happily using async/await in various concurrency patterns. Luckily, Cory believes, to each their own, and even welcomes responses from developers like Eric Elliott and Robbie as important food for thought. So which universe do you prefer? Object-oriented or functional?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Cory talks with Chuck and Robbie about why he prefers promise to async/await, his response to Robbie&#39;s weekly rant on classes, what really makes an engineer &#34;senior&#34;, how every tech team should operate, and why Cory recently chose to learn Scottish Gaelic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:40] - A brief introduction to Cory.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:19] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:39] - Cory&#39;s controversial opinion on async/await patterns.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:56] - How Cory views classes and his defense of Hooks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:54] - Why time matters with engineer seniority.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:00] - A Dr. Pepper and obscure language-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:27] - &#34;I&#39;ve already seen ideas from the object-oriented world come in and benefit the functional world. And vice versa — the functional world come in and really benefit the object-oriented world. So I don&#39;t want to see either of them go away even as I choose to essentially wholly live on one side.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[37:10] - &#34;If you have any hope of going to whatever your next job is and entering a codebase that is at all reasonable, then we need to start training our junior engineers. And unfortunately, businesses are not investing in that for whatever reason so it&#39;s on us to do that.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[40:24] - &#34;A large chunk of the last several years of my career has been a diminished focus on producing stuff directly and more in enabling others to produce more quickly.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cory Brown on Twitter [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cory&#39;s website [https://365jsthings.tech]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aumni [https://www.aumni.fund/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spiritless Kentucky 74 [https://spiritless.com/products/kentucky-74-non-alcoholic-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eric Elliott [https://ericelliottjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Why I avoid async/await  [https://uniqname.medium.com/why-i-avoid-async-await-7be98014b73e]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Promise [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Promise]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML [https://yaml.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Douglas Crockford [https://www.crockford.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stencil.js [https://stenciljs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clojure [https://clojure.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Coming Storm (Cory&#39;s post about emerging software developers)  [https://uniqname.medium.com/the-coming-storm-c03ada70b022]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backstage [https://backstage.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dr. Pepper [https://twitter.com/drpepper]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">651f8286-ecba-11ec-ae3e-67e92cc4a073</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tsjx1jlh80jwuvtoklucd74w.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not often that a blog post sets the internet on fire. But a recent post by Cory Brown about async/await led to an uproar and even messages of pity from Hacker News. Who knew a simple post about pattern preferences would cause such controversy? </p>
<p>Today, Cory's here to explain his side of the story for those happily using async/await in various concurrency patterns. Luckily, Cory believes, to each their own, and even welcomes responses from developers like Eric Elliott and Robbie as important food for thought. So which universe do you prefer? Object-oriented or functional?</p>
<p>In this episode, Cory talks with Chuck and Robbie about why he prefers promise to async/await, his response to Robbie's weekly rant on classes, what really makes an engineer "senior", how every tech team should operate, and why Cory recently chose to learn Scottish Gaelic.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:40] - A brief introduction to Cory.</li>
<li>[01:19] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[08:39] - Cory's controversial opinion on async/await patterns.</li>
<li>[18:56] - How Cory views classes and his defense of Hooks.</li>
<li>[29:54] - Why time matters with engineer seniority.</li>
<li>[42:00] - A Dr. Pepper and obscure language-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[26:27] - "I've already seen ideas from the object-oriented world come in and benefit the functional world. And vice versa — the functional world come in and really benefit the object-oriented world. So I don't want to see either of them go away even as I choose to essentially wholly live on one side." ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]</p>
<p>[37:10] - "If you have any hope of going to whatever your next job is and entering a codebase that is at all reasonable, then we need to start training our junior engineers. And unfortunately, businesses are not investing in that for whatever reason so it's on us to do that." ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]</p>
<p>[40:24] - "A large chunk of the last several years of my career has been a diminished focus on producing stuff directly and more in enabling others to produce more quickly." ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Cory Brown on Twitter [https://twitter.com/uniqname]</li>
<li>Cory's website [https://365jsthings.tech]</li>
<li>Aumni [https://www.aumni.fund/]</li>
<li>National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]</li>
<li>Spiritless Kentucky 74 [https://spiritless.com/products/kentucky-74-non-alcoholic-bourbon]</li>
<li>Eric Elliott [https://ericelliottjs.com/]</li>
<li>Why I avoid async/await  [https://uniqname.medium.com/why-i-avoid-async-await-7be98014b73e]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Promise [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Promise]</li>
<li>Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]</li>
<li>Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]</li>
<li>YAML [https://yaml.org] </li>
<li>Douglas Crockford [https://www.crockford.com]</li>
<li>Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Preact [https://preactjs.com]</li>
<li>Stencil.js [https://stenciljs.com]</li>
<li>Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]</li>
<li>Clojure [https://clojure.org]</li>
<li>The Coming Storm (Cory's post about emerging software developers)  [https://uniqname.medium.com/the-coming-storm-c03ada70b022]</li>
<li>Backstage [https://backstage.io]</li>
<li>Dr. Pepper [https://twitter.com/drpepper]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A Battle of Two Worlds and Mentorship Above Milestones with Cory Brown</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tsjx1jlh80jwuvtoklucd74w/fj8v45a99zu1src318ucpok5.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3470</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s not often that a blog post sets the internet on fire. But a recent post by Cory Brown about async/await led to an uproar and even messages of pity from Hacker News. Who knew a simple post about pattern preferences would cause such controversy? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Cory&#39;s here to explain his side of the story for those happily using async/await in various concurrency patterns. Luckily, Cory believes, to each their own, and even welcomes responses from developers like Eric Elliott and Robbie as important food for thought. So which universe do you prefer? Object-oriented or functional?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Cory talks with Chuck and Robbie about why he prefers promise to async/await, his response to Robbie&#39;s weekly rant on classes, what really makes an engineer &#34;senior&#34;, how every tech team should operate, and why Cory recently chose to learn Scottish Gaelic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:40] - A brief introduction to Cory.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:19] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:39] - Cory&#39;s controversial opinion on async/await patterns.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:56] - How Cory views classes and his defense of Hooks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:54] - Why time matters with engineer seniority.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:00] - A Dr. Pepper and obscure language-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:27] - &#34;I&#39;ve already seen ideas from the object-oriented world come in and benefit the functional world. And vice versa — the functional world come in and really benefit the object-oriented world. So I don&#39;t want to see either of them go away even as I choose to essentially wholly live on one side.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[37:10] - &#34;If you have any hope of going to whatever your next job is and entering a codebase that is at all reasonable, then we need to start training our junior engineers. And unfortunately, businesses are not investing in that for whatever reason so it&#39;s on us to do that.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[40:24] - &#34;A large chunk of the last several years of my career has been a diminished focus on producing stuff directly and more in enabling others to produce more quickly.&#34; ~ Cory Brown [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cory Brown on Twitter [https://twitter.com/uniqname]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cory&#39;s website [https://365jsthings.tech]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Aumni [https://www.aumni.fund/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;National Geographic  [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spiritless Kentucky 74 [https://spiritless.com/products/kentucky-74-non-alcoholic-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eric Elliott [https://ericelliottjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Why I avoid async/await  [https://uniqname.medium.com/why-i-avoid-async-await-7be98014b73e]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Promise [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Promise]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hacker News [https://news.ycombinator.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML [https://yaml.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Douglas Crockford [https://www.crockford.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Yehuda Katz [https://yehudakatz.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Preact [https://preactjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stencil.js [https://stenciljs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hooks [https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-intro.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Clojure [https://clojure.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Coming Storm (Cory&#39;s post about emerging software developers)  [https://uniqname.medium.com/the-coming-storm-c03ada70b022]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backstage [https://backstage.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dr. Pepper [https://twitter.com/drpepper]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tsjx1jlh80jwuvtoklucd74w/jaa427ibx3s3f3ctrv3iidfg/transcoded-01KECKDNWB6XF3P30Q5J2ZA2XA-01KECKDNWBWFWS02SCVA0J4Q9F_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>A Framework for Ember TypeScript with James C. Davis</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In 2017, James C. Davis moved to Charlottesville, Virginia to work at a non-profit tech company that used Ember in their original Saas platform. While James had dabbled in Ember previously, an ask to reimplement the front-end in Ember, this time using TypeScript, proved challenging. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the time, a few engineers were using TypeScript in Ember, but the open source framework James worked on became the de-facto reference point for projects in Ember types. And the unofficial group of engineers collaborating on the project has become the official Ember TypeScript Core Team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, James works at e-commerce company Salsify with a front-end all in Ember TypeScript. Although setting the standard for using TypeScript in Ember, James believes there&#39;s a time and a place for types. Plus, he may have a solution for Robbie&#39;s monorepo grievances. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, James talks with Chuck and Robbie about his struggles and triumphs perfecting Ember TypeScript, his real thoughts on monorepos and functional programming, keeping APIs private, and why developing Glint was a type checking necessity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:46] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[05:48] - Two truths and a lie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:28] - How James discovered Ember and open source. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:28] - The purpose of the dot ember-cli file.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:00] - When TypeScript isn&#39;t your best bet. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:53] - How the Ember TypeScript core team is handling private API.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:41] - How James feels about monorepos and functional programming in general. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:57] - What tool James uses to link packages.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:36] - How James created Glint. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:03] - A camping, travel, and steak-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:58] - &#34;One of the cool things about the way TypeScript is done now with Babel is we can write stuff in TypeScript and we can use Babel to basically strip out all of the type annotations and just produce JavaScript.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:38] - &#34;Basically at this point, the only really useful thing that you need inside ember-cli-typescript is its blueprint which is different from the blueprints that generate components and Ember things.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:53] - &#34;The bigger and more complex your project is, the more that [TypeScript] helps you.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James on Twitter [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ragged Branch Virginia Straight Bourbon (Wheated Bourbon) [https://www.raggedbranch.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It Might Get Loud [https://www.amazon.com/Might-Get-Loud-Jimmy-Page/dp/B002WNC5BU]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Bringing Types to Ember with Chris Krycho [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/bringing-types-to-ember-with-chris-krycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho  [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember TypeScript Core Team [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Center for Open Science [https://www.cos.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Open Science Framework [https://www.cos.io/products/osf]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-cli-typescript [https://github.com/typed-ember/ember-cli-typescript]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Salsify  [https://www.salsify.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Freeman [https://twitter.com/__dfreeman]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Babel [https://babeljs.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f81366f8-e76e-11ec-88b7-2f447e08bd22</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/nwpl8qdv0d7f9ywrkcol2x3q.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2017, James C. Davis moved to Charlottesville, Virginia to work at a non-profit tech company that used Ember in their original Saas platform. While James had dabbled in Ember previously, an ask to reimplement the front-end in Ember, this time using TypeScript, proved challenging. </p>
<p>At the time, a few engineers were using TypeScript in Ember, but the open source framework James worked on became the de-facto reference point for projects in Ember types. And the unofficial group of engineers collaborating on the project has become the official Ember TypeScript Core Team.</p>
<p>Today, James works at e-commerce company Salsify with a front-end all in Ember TypeScript. Although setting the standard for using TypeScript in Ember, James believes there's a time and a place for types. Plus, he may have a solution for Robbie's monorepo grievances. </p>
<p>In this episode, James talks with Chuck and Robbie about his struggles and triumphs perfecting Ember TypeScript, his real thoughts on monorepos and functional programming, keeping APIs private, and why developing Glint was a type checking necessity.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:46] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[05:48] - Two truths and a lie. </li>
<li>[12:28] - How James discovered Ember and open source. </li>
<li>[16:28] - The purpose of the dot ember-cli file.</li>
<li>[22:00] - When TypeScript isn't your best bet. </li>
<li>[22:53] - How the Ember TypeScript core team is handling private API.</li>
<li>[25:41] - How James feels about monorepos and functional programming in general. </li>
<li>[28:57] - What tool James uses to link packages.</li>
<li>[31:36] - How James created Glint. </li>
<li>[39:03] - A camping, travel, and steak-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[17:58] - "One of the cool things about the way TypeScript is done now with Babel is we can write stuff in TypeScript and we can use Babel to basically strip out all of the type annotations and just produce JavaScript." ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]</p>
<p>[19:38] - "Basically at this point, the only really useful thing that you need inside ember-cli-typescript is its blueprint which is different from the blueprints that generate components and Ember things." ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]</p>
<p>[21:53] - "The bigger and more complex your project is, the more that [TypeScript] helps you." ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>James on Twitter [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]</li>
<li>GitHub [https://github.com]</li>
<li>Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]</li>
<li>Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]</li>
<li>Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]</li>
<li>Ragged Branch Virginia Straight Bourbon (Wheated Bourbon) [https://www.raggedbranch.com]</li>
<li>It Might Get Loud [https://www.amazon.com/Might-Get-Loud-Jimmy-Page/dp/B002WNC5BU]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Bringing Types to Ember with Chris Krycho [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/bringing-types-to-ember-with-chris-krycho/]</li>
<li>Chris Krycho  [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]</li>
<li>Ember TypeScript Core Team [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]</li>
<li>Center for Open Science [https://www.cos.io]</li>
<li>The Open Science Framework [https://www.cos.io/products/osf]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]</li>
<li>ember-cli-typescript [https://github.com/typed-ember/ember-cli-typescript]</li>
<li>Salsify  [https://www.salsify.com]</li>
<li>Dan Freeman [https://twitter.com/__dfreeman]</li>
<li>Babel [https://babeljs.io]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>A Framework for Ember TypeScript with James C. Davis</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nwpl8qdv0d7f9ywrkcol2x3q/w529oo9v5dc1mo9nzlflcmlo.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3406</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In 2017, James C. Davis moved to Charlottesville, Virginia to work at a non-profit tech company that used Ember in their original Saas platform. While James had dabbled in Ember previously, an ask to reimplement the front-end in Ember, this time using TypeScript, proved challenging. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the time, a few engineers were using TypeScript in Ember, but the open source framework James worked on became the de-facto reference point for projects in Ember types. And the unofficial group of engineers collaborating on the project has become the official Ember TypeScript Core Team.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, James works at e-commerce company Salsify with a front-end all in Ember TypeScript. Although setting the standard for using TypeScript in Ember, James believes there&#39;s a time and a place for types. Plus, he may have a solution for Robbie&#39;s monorepo grievances. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, James talks with Chuck and Robbie about his struggles and triumphs perfecting Ember TypeScript, his real thoughts on monorepos and functional programming, keeping APIs private, and why developing Glint was a type checking necessity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:46] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[05:48] - Two truths and a lie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:28] - How James discovered Ember and open source. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:28] - The purpose of the dot ember-cli file.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:00] - When TypeScript isn&#39;t your best bet. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:53] - How the Ember TypeScript core team is handling private API.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:41] - How James feels about monorepos and functional programming in general. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:57] - What tool James uses to link packages.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:36] - How James created Glint. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:03] - A camping, travel, and steak-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:58] - &#34;One of the cool things about the way TypeScript is done now with Babel is we can write stuff in TypeScript and we can use Babel to basically strip out all of the type annotations and just produce JavaScript.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:38] - &#34;Basically at this point, the only really useful thing that you need inside ember-cli-typescript is its blueprint which is different from the blueprints that generate components and Ember things.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:53] - &#34;The bigger and more complex your project is, the more that [TypeScript] helps you.&#34; ~ @jamscdavis [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;James on Twitter [https://twitter.com/jamscdavis]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://www.twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ragged Branch Virginia Straight Bourbon (Wheated Bourbon) [https://www.raggedbranch.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It Might Get Loud [https://www.amazon.com/Might-Get-Loud-Jimmy-Page/dp/B002WNC5BU]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Bringing Types to Ember with Chris Krycho [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/bringing-types-to-ember-with-chris-krycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho  [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember TypeScript Core Team [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Center for Open Science [https://www.cos.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Open Science Framework [https://www.cos.io/products/osf]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-cli-typescript [https://github.com/typed-ember/ember-cli-typescript]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Salsify  [https://www.salsify.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dan Freeman [https://twitter.com/__dfreeman]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Babel [https://babeljs.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/nwpl8qdv0d7f9ywrkcol2x3q/uelnsuqnjlv51echwlz19j56/transcoded-01KECKDNBQ99FNVV8PJDNVBPH8-01KECKDNBQCQ73486BRAZCCK1T_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Mystery Maker&#39;s Monday, Testing, and GraphQL</title><description>&lt;p&gt;They say if it&#39;s not broken, don&#39;t fix it. So why are we running tests on tests on tests that aren&#39;t business-critical? There&#39;s an art to testing beyond just striving to get 100% coverage. In fact, over-testing can actually hamper your progress more than help it. Meanwhile, Chuck&#39;s wondering why it&#39;s not possible to have a union of enums in GraphQL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some tech frustrations, lessons for the React community, why Ship Shape implemented spam traps, and a whatnot on all things alcohol, sports, Friends, and Robbie&#39;s (seemingly endless) truck saga. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:50] - A lengthy whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:53] - Why getting carried away with tests becomes your downfall. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:50] - Why Chuck thinks these tests in the React community are useless. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:16] - Chuck&#39;s GraphQL confusion. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:49] - A browser bug Chuck noticed. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:09] - Robbie&#39;s non-sponsored plug.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:50] - A sports-themed whatnot and an update on Robbie&#39;s truck saga. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:52] - &#34;There are things that warrant tests and things that don&#39;t and there are good best practices for writing them.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[33:44] - &#34;Sometimes people will just chase the goal of as close to 100% coverage as possible and then you end up with a bunch of egregious tests along the way.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[34:00] - &#34;You need to test what&#39;s business-critical. You can do the other tests if you have the time. But there were a lot of tests that really didn&#39;t even check anything. And it&#39;s kind of arbitrary — you got that coverage, but you weren&#39;t doing anything.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[36:32] - &#34;Cypress is a great example of having integration testing in context where you can get visual progression testing too so [you] have some understanding there.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark No. 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark Cask Strength [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-cask-strength]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark Private Selection [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-private-selection]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Woodford Reserve [https://www.woodfordreserve.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose Dining Saloon [http://jackrosediningsaloon.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mocha [https://mochajs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [http://slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;reCAPTCHA [https://www.google.com/recaptcha/about/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cypress  [https://www.cypress.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [http://facebook.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify  [https://www.netlify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Middesk [https://www.middesk.com/agent]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;QuickBooks [https://quickbooks.intuit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Walkabout Mini Golf on Oculus Quest [https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2462678267173943/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Holey Moley [https://abc.com/shows/holey-moley]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steph Curry [https://twitter.com/StephenCurry30] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Topgolf [https://topgolf.com/us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rivian [https://rivian.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0b5cd714-e15a-11ec-a902-8f3b92f5d88e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/oltz2h4s1p2t340oqye5ajkd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say if it's not broken, don't fix it. So why are we running tests on tests on tests that aren't business-critical? There's an art to testing beyond just striving to get 100% coverage. In fact, over-testing can actually hamper your progress more than help it. Meanwhile, Chuck's wondering why it's not possible to have a union of enums in GraphQL.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some tech frustrations, lessons for the React community, why Ship Shape implemented spam traps, and a whatnot on all things alcohol, sports, Friends, and Robbie's (seemingly endless) truck saga. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:50] - A lengthy whiskey review. </li>
<li>[22:53] - Why getting carried away with tests becomes your downfall. </li>
<li>[34:50] - Why Chuck thinks these tests in the React community are useless. </li>
<li>[38:16] - Chuck's GraphQL confusion. </li>
<li>[40:49] - A browser bug Chuck noticed. </li>
<li>[44:09] - Robbie's non-sponsored plug.</li>
<li>[44:50] - A sports-themed whatnot and an update on Robbie's truck saga. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[26:52] - "There are things that warrant tests and things that don't and there are good best practices for writing them." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[33:44] - "Sometimes people will just chase the goal of as close to 100% coverage as possible and then you end up with a bunch of egregious tests along the way." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[34:00] - "You need to test what's business-critical. You can do the other tests if you have the time. But there were a lot of tests that really didn't even check anything. And it's kind of arbitrary — you got that coverage, but you weren't doing anything." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[36:32] - "Cypress is a great example of having integration testing in context where you can get visual progression testing too so [you] have some understanding there." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Maker's Mark No. 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]</li>
<li>Maker's Mark Cask Strength [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-cask-strength]</li>
<li>Maker's Mark Private Selection [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-private-selection]</li>
<li>Woodford Reserve [https://www.woodfordreserve.com/]</li>
<li>Jack Rose Dining Saloon [http://jackrosediningsaloon.com/]</li>
<li>The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com/]</li>
<li>Mocha [https://mochajs.org/]</li>
<li>Jest [https://jestjs.io/]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com/]</li>
<li>Slack [http://slack.com]</li>
<li>reCAPTCHA [https://www.google.com/recaptcha/about/]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org/]</li>
<li>Cypress  [https://www.cypress.io/]</li>
<li>Facebook [http://facebook.com]</li>
<li>Vite [https://vitejs.dev/] </li>
<li>GraphQL [https://graphql.org/]</li>
<li>Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</li>
<li>Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]</li>
<li>Starlink [https://www.starlink.com/]</li>
<li>Netlify  [https://www.netlify.com/]</li>
<li>Middesk [https://www.middesk.com/agent]</li>
<li>QuickBooks [https://quickbooks.intuit.com/]</li>
<li>Walkabout Mini Golf on Oculus Quest [https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2462678267173943/]</li>
<li>Holey Moley [https://abc.com/shows/holey-moley]</li>
<li>Steph Curry [https://twitter.com/StephenCurry30] </li>
<li>Topgolf [https://topgolf.com/us/]</li>
<li>Rivian [https://rivian.com/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Mystery Maker&#39;s Monday, Testing, and GraphQL</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oltz2h4s1p2t340oqye5ajkd/ktzrb7nv6pxg46ukgf4swauf.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3557</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;They say if it&#39;s not broken, don&#39;t fix it. So why are we running tests on tests on tests that aren&#39;t business-critical? There&#39;s an art to testing beyond just striving to get 100% coverage. In fact, over-testing can actually hamper your progress more than help it. Meanwhile, Chuck&#39;s wondering why it&#39;s not possible to have a union of enums in GraphQL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some tech frustrations, lessons for the React community, why Ship Shape implemented spam traps, and a whatnot on all things alcohol, sports, Friends, and Robbie&#39;s (seemingly endless) truck saga. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:50] - A lengthy whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:53] - Why getting carried away with tests becomes your downfall. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:50] - Why Chuck thinks these tests in the React community are useless. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:16] - Chuck&#39;s GraphQL confusion. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:49] - A browser bug Chuck noticed. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:09] - Robbie&#39;s non-sponsored plug.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:50] - A sports-themed whatnot and an update on Robbie&#39;s truck saga. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:52] - &#34;There are things that warrant tests and things that don&#39;t and there are good best practices for writing them.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[33:44] - &#34;Sometimes people will just chase the goal of as close to 100% coverage as possible and then you end up with a bunch of egregious tests along the way.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[34:00] - &#34;You need to test what&#39;s business-critical. You can do the other tests if you have the time. But there were a lot of tests that really didn&#39;t even check anything. And it&#39;s kind of arbitrary — you got that coverage, but you weren&#39;t doing anything.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[36:32] - &#34;Cypress is a great example of having integration testing in context where you can get visual progression testing too so [you] have some understanding there.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark No. 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark Cask Strength [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-cask-strength]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark Private Selection [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-private-selection]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Woodford Reserve [https://www.woodfordreserve.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Rose Dining Saloon [http://jackrosediningsaloon.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The FRIENDS Experience  [https://www.friendstheexperience.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mocha [https://mochajs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slack [http://slack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;reCAPTCHA [https://www.google.com/recaptcha/about/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cypress  [https://www.cypress.io/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [http://facebook.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Elon Musk [https://twitter.com/elonmusk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify  [https://www.netlify.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Middesk [https://www.middesk.com/agent]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;QuickBooks [https://quickbooks.intuit.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Walkabout Mini Golf on Oculus Quest [https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2462678267173943/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Holey Moley [https://abc.com/shows/holey-moley]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steph Curry [https://twitter.com/StephenCurry30] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Topgolf [https://topgolf.com/us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rivian [https://rivian.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oltz2h4s1p2t340oqye5ajkd/ic5jlhkcagyxt94yh5r1qlpl/transcoded-01KECKDKBK80XNB9ADHFKXJ5BE-01KECKDKBKPCBZ1G5ATRJW6GNB_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Leading From the Top, Creating a Community, and Balancing It All with Tracy Lee</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Great things come in unexpected places. For Tracy Lee, an ex-boyfriend&#39;s T-shirt sporting the Ember Tomster is what tipped her off to software development. Following curiosity and a three-week bootcamp, Tracy was hooked and ready to take on a career in coding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Tracy is the CEO of This Dot Labs. She leads a team of 50 developers with a focus on reactive programming, web performance, and developer experience. Her clients and colleagues have become her closest friends and she&#39;s always looking to help fellow developers expand their careers. When she&#39;s not running an agency, Tracy is part of the RX Core Team (one of her many professional memberships), posting tech content to social media, and raising a new baby boy. So how does she manage it all? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Tracy talks with Chuck and Robbie about wearing every hat under the sun and wearing them well, why she loves RxJS, having hard conversations with over-eager developers, what&#39;s so often ignored by non-technical CEOs, and what keeps Tracy motivated above all else. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:09] - A Cinco De Mayo-themed beverage review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:47] - An intro to Tracy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:17] - What RxJS is used for. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:28] - How Tracy balances everything.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:55] - Tracy&#39;s life outside of coding, parenting, and business ownership. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:17] - How Tracy first got into web development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:23] - Tracy&#39;s advice for developers and the hardest pill to swallow when you&#39;re over-eager. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:05] - An important conversation about whiskey and Tracy&#39;s liquor cabinet. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:24] - &#34;Check out RxJS if you have not checked out RxJS. And then if you like it, I think it takes people a little bit to wrap their heads around it because it&#39;s a new way of thinking, but once people do I feel like people just want to RxJS all the things.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:19] - &#34;I hope I can turn my life into only doing my hobby again. So that&#39;s my goal. Hire enough people to where I can actually not have to do all the things I don&#39;t love.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:36] - &#34;I love development because it was so challenging to me, instead of business. I think developers go the other way, they&#39;re like, &#39;oh development&#39;s easy, let me do business stuff because that&#39;s challenging.&#39; For me it was different, I was like, &#39;man this is so invigorating, this is hard and it&#39;s awesome and I can build things and create things.&#39;&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[35:19] - &#34;I always talk about web performance and generally no one really wants to invest in it but performance is such a huge deal.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tracy on Twitter [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;This Dot Labs [https://www.thisdot.co]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cutwater Spirits [https://www.cutwaterspirits.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bartesian [https://bartesian.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Keurig [https://www.keurig.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RxJS Core Team [https://rxjs.dev/team?group=Core%20Team]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Stars [https://stars.github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft MVP [https://mvp.microsoft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RxJS [https://rxjs.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-concurrency [http://ember-concurrency.com/docs/introduction/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;tc39 Proposal for Observable  [https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Introduction to RxJS Patterns in React [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF8XcEwwPpU]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">db197562-dba5-11ec-bd05-2346d7f40992</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/r5re9jc4kgm9k7ggphj1s3s4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great things come in unexpected places. For Tracy Lee, an ex-boyfriend's T-shirt sporting the Ember Tomster is what tipped her off to software development. Following curiosity and a three-week bootcamp, Tracy was hooked and ready to take on a career in coding.</p>
<p>Today, Tracy is the CEO of This Dot Labs. She leads a team of 50 developers with a focus on reactive programming, web performance, and developer experience. Her clients and colleagues have become her closest friends and she's always looking to help fellow developers expand their careers. When she's not running an agency, Tracy is part of the RX Core Team (one of her many professional memberships), posting tech content to social media, and raising a new baby boy. So how does she manage it all? </p>
<p>In this episode, Tracy talks with Chuck and Robbie about wearing every hat under the sun and wearing them well, why she loves RxJS, having hard conversations with over-eager developers, what's so often ignored by non-technical CEOs, and what keeps Tracy motivated above all else. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:09] - A Cinco De Mayo-themed beverage review. </li>
<li>[02:47] - An intro to Tracy.</li>
<li>[06:17] - What RxJS is used for. </li>
<li>[09:28] - How Tracy balances everything.</li>
<li>[18:55] - Tracy's life outside of coding, parenting, and business ownership. </li>
<li>[27:17] - How Tracy first got into web development. </li>
<li>[38:23] - Tracy's advice for developers and the hardest pill to swallow when you're over-eager. </li>
<li>[45:05] - An important conversation about whiskey and Tracy's liquor cabinet. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[08:24] - "Check out RxJS if you have not checked out RxJS. And then if you like it, I think it takes people a little bit to wrap their heads around it because it's a new way of thinking, but once people do I feel like people just want to RxJS all the things." ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]</p>
<p>[15:19] - "I hope I can turn my life into only doing my hobby again. So that's my goal. Hire enough people to where I can actually not have to do all the things I don't love." ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]</p>
<p>[29:36] - "I love development because it was so challenging to me, instead of business. I think developers go the other way, they're like, 'oh development's easy, let me do business stuff because that's challenging.' For me it was different, I was like, 'man this is so invigorating, this is hard and it's awesome and I can build things and create things.'" ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]</p>
<p>[35:19] - "I always talk about web performance and generally no one really wants to invest in it but performance is such a huge deal." ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Tracy on Twitter [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]</li>
<li>This Dot Labs [https://www.thisdot.co]</li>
<li>Cutwater Spirits [https://www.cutwaterspirits.com] </li>
<li>Bartesian [https://bartesian.com]</li>
<li>Keurig [https://www.keurig.com]</li>
<li>RxJS Core Team [https://rxjs.dev/team?group=Core%20Team]</li>
<li>Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]</li>
<li>GitHub Stars [https://stars.github.com]</li>
<li>Microsoft MVP [https://mvp.microsoft.com/en-us/]</li>
<li>RxJS [https://rxjs.dev]</li>
<li>Angular [https://angular.io]</li>
<li>Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>ember-concurrency [http://ember-concurrency.com/docs/introduction/] </li>
<li>tc39 Proposal for Observable  [https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable]</li>
<li>Introduction to RxJS Patterns in React [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF8XcEwwPpU]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Leading From the Top, Creating a Community, and Balancing It All with Tracy Lee</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r5re9jc4kgm9k7ggphj1s3s4/jvf842u8m1quurtkk7qf7xmp.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3440</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Great things come in unexpected places. For Tracy Lee, an ex-boyfriend&#39;s T-shirt sporting the Ember Tomster is what tipped her off to software development. Following curiosity and a three-week bootcamp, Tracy was hooked and ready to take on a career in coding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Tracy is the CEO of This Dot Labs. She leads a team of 50 developers with a focus on reactive programming, web performance, and developer experience. Her clients and colleagues have become her closest friends and she&#39;s always looking to help fellow developers expand their careers. When she&#39;s not running an agency, Tracy is part of the RX Core Team (one of her many professional memberships), posting tech content to social media, and raising a new baby boy. So how does she manage it all? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Tracy talks with Chuck and Robbie about wearing every hat under the sun and wearing them well, why she loves RxJS, having hard conversations with over-eager developers, what&#39;s so often ignored by non-technical CEOs, and what keeps Tracy motivated above all else. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:09] - A Cinco De Mayo-themed beverage review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:47] - An intro to Tracy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:17] - What RxJS is used for. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:28] - How Tracy balances everything.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:55] - Tracy&#39;s life outside of coding, parenting, and business ownership. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:17] - How Tracy first got into web development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:23] - Tracy&#39;s advice for developers and the hardest pill to swallow when you&#39;re over-eager. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:05] - An important conversation about whiskey and Tracy&#39;s liquor cabinet. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[08:24] - &#34;Check out RxJS if you have not checked out RxJS. And then if you like it, I think it takes people a little bit to wrap their heads around it because it&#39;s a new way of thinking, but once people do I feel like people just want to RxJS all the things.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:19] - &#34;I hope I can turn my life into only doing my hobby again. So that&#39;s my goal. Hire enough people to where I can actually not have to do all the things I don&#39;t love.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:36] - &#34;I love development because it was so challenging to me, instead of business. I think developers go the other way, they&#39;re like, &#39;oh development&#39;s easy, let me do business stuff because that&#39;s challenging.&#39; For me it was different, I was like, &#39;man this is so invigorating, this is hard and it&#39;s awesome and I can build things and create things.&#39;&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[35:19] - &#34;I always talk about web performance and generally no one really wants to invest in it but performance is such a huge deal.&#34; ~ @ladyleet  [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tracy on Twitter [https://twitter.com/ladyleet]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;This Dot Labs [https://www.thisdot.co]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cutwater Spirits [https://www.cutwaterspirits.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bartesian [https://bartesian.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Keurig [https://www.keurig.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RxJS Core Team [https://rxjs.dev/team?group=Core%20Team]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub Stars [https://stars.github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft MVP [https://mvp.microsoft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RxJS [https://rxjs.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-concurrency [http://ember-concurrency.com/docs/introduction/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;tc39 Proposal for Observable  [https://github.com/tc39/proposal-observable]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Introduction to RxJS Patterns in React [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF8XcEwwPpU]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/r5re9jc4kgm9k7ggphj1s3s4/tupurg8ylwwc7oatwd9ns6sk/transcoded-01KECKDPVWTJVM1YJ37ZPR9SSS-01KECKDPVWVS9Y3WZJZ07NX7EH_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Bringing Types to Ember with Chris Krycho</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In early 2017, Chris Krycho was working at one of the few startups using Ember, searching for a way to bring types to the emerging language. His primary goal became solving semantic versioning for TS. As Chris kept iterating, striving to combine multiple programming worlds, other engineers joined him in the pursuit until eventually, the Ember TypeScript Core team was born. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Chris is a lead engineer at LinkedIn, a father, husband, runner, music composer, and whiskey enthusiast. His current goal is to ensure Ember Polaris has first-class TypeScript support. Aside from offering new dad advice to Robbie, Chris also describes what can become a superpower for new developers willing to work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about best-case uses for TypeScript, a defense of complicated library code, Chris&#39; ultimate goal with software engineering, and his advice for programmers on the rise. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:10] - A brief intro to Chris. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:26] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:57] - How the Ember TypeScript Core Team originated. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:11] - When Chris believes TypeScript isn&#39;t necessary. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:52] - Chris&#39; lengthy experience with programming languages. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:39] - Chris&#39; advice to Robbie as a new father. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:59] - How Chris responds to Robbie&#39;s issue with TypeScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:50] - What a first-class component template is.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:14] - A music and Hot Ones-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[57:43] - The one thing Chris always plugs for developers. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:27] - &#34;TypeScript support is pretty essential to modern web development. Even if you&#39;re not using TypeScript in your web app, you are using TypeScript because under the hood, all of the tooling that exists across the ecosystem, more or less, uses TypeScript.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:39] - &#34;There&#39;s no project in which TypeScript is necessary. There are very few projects in which it might not be useful, but that&#39;s going to depend on your team, your coding style, your mental frame, your background, etc.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[60:45] - &#34;Getting deep on subject matter as well as having a general breadth is a really powerful one-two punch in terms of being able to grow as an engineer, to actually understand what you&#39;re working on.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChrisKrycho.com [https://chriskrycho.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn Learning [https://www.linkedin.com/learning/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W.L. Weller [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Glenlivet 14 Year Old [https://www.theglenlivet.com/en-US/the-collection/14-year-old]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Four Roses Bourbon [https://fourrosesbourbon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Runspired vs. Chris Manson on Solving the Number One Open Source Maintainer Dilemma [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/runspired-vs-chris-manson-on-solving-the-number-one-ember-issue/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember TypeScript Core Team (Typ [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c2a7749c-d54d-11ec-b3d6-1b14c4a2b788</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/vhfubm8y14p60pm3q9vu9yrj.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In early 2017, Chris Krycho was working at one of the few startups using Ember, searching for a way to bring types to the emerging language. His primary goal became solving semantic versioning for TS. As Chris kept iterating, striving to combine multiple programming worlds, other engineers joined him in the pursuit until eventually, the Ember TypeScript Core team was born. </p>
<p>Today, Chris is a lead engineer at LinkedIn, a father, husband, runner, music composer, and whiskey enthusiast. His current goal is to ensure Ember Polaris has first-class TypeScript support. Aside from offering new dad advice to Robbie, Chris also describes what can become a superpower for new developers willing to work.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about best-case uses for TypeScript, a defense of complicated library code, Chris' ultimate goal with software engineering, and his advice for programmers on the rise. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:10] - A brief intro to Chris. </li>
<li>[02:26] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[10:57] - How the Ember TypeScript Core Team originated. </li>
<li>[19:11] - When Chris believes TypeScript isn't necessary. </li>
<li>[26:52] - Chris' lengthy experience with programming languages. </li>
<li>[28:39] - Chris' advice to Robbie as a new father. </li>
<li>[30:59] - How Chris responds to Robbie's issue with TypeScript.</li>
<li>[43:50] - What a first-class component template is.</li>
<li>[52:14] - A music and Hot Ones-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[57:43] - The one thing Chris always plugs for developers. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[16:27] - "TypeScript support is pretty essential to modern web development. Even if you're not using TypeScript in your web app, you are using TypeScript because under the hood, all of the tooling that exists across the ecosystem, more or less, uses TypeScript." ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]</p>
<p>[19:39] - "There's no project in which TypeScript is necessary. There are very few projects in which it might not be useful, but that's going to depend on your team, your coding style, your mental frame, your background, etc." ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]</p>
<p>[60:45] - "Getting deep on subject matter as well as having a general breadth is a really powerful one-two punch in terms of being able to grow as an engineer, to actually understand what you're working on." ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]</li>
<li>ChrisKrycho.com [https://chriskrycho.com]</li>
<li>LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>LinkedIn Learning [https://www.linkedin.com/learning/]</li>
<li>Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]</li>
<li>Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]</li>
<li>W.L. Weller [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html]</li>
<li>The Glenlivet 14 Year Old [https://www.theglenlivet.com/en-US/the-collection/14-year-old]</li>
<li>Four Roses Bourbon [https://fourrosesbourbon.com]</li>
<li>runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</li>
<li>Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Runspired vs. Chris Manson on Solving the Number One Open Source Maintainer Dilemma [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/runspired-vs-chris-manson-on-solving-the-number-one-ember-issue/]</li>
<li>Discord [https://discord.com]</li>
<li>EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]</li>
<li>Ember TypeScript Core Team (Typ [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Bringing Types to Ember with Chris Krycho</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vhfubm8y14p60pm3q9vu9yrj/ksze650nw34wpv40o332liyn.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3847</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In early 2017, Chris Krycho was working at one of the few startups using Ember, searching for a way to bring types to the emerging language. His primary goal became solving semantic versioning for TS. As Chris kept iterating, striving to combine multiple programming worlds, other engineers joined him in the pursuit until eventually, the Ember TypeScript Core team was born. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, Chris is a lead engineer at LinkedIn, a father, husband, runner, music composer, and whiskey enthusiast. His current goal is to ensure Ember Polaris has first-class TypeScript support. Aside from offering new dad advice to Robbie, Chris also describes what can become a superpower for new developers willing to work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about best-case uses for TypeScript, a defense of complicated library code, Chris&#39; ultimate goal with software engineering, and his advice for programmers on the rise. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:10] - A brief intro to Chris. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:26] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:57] - How the Ember TypeScript Core Team originated. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:11] - When Chris believes TypeScript isn&#39;t necessary. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:52] - Chris&#39; lengthy experience with programming languages. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:39] - Chris&#39; advice to Robbie as a new father. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:59] - How Chris responds to Robbie&#39;s issue with TypeScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:50] - What a first-class component template is.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:14] - A music and Hot Ones-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[57:43] - The one thing Chris always plugs for developers. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:27] - &#34;TypeScript support is pretty essential to modern web development. Even if you&#39;re not using TypeScript in your web app, you are using TypeScript because under the hood, all of the tooling that exists across the ecosystem, more or less, uses TypeScript.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:39] - &#34;There&#39;s no project in which TypeScript is necessary. There are very few projects in which it might not be useful, but that&#39;s going to depend on your team, your coding style, your mental frame, your background, etc.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[60:45] - &#34;Getting deep on subject matter as well as having a general breadth is a really powerful one-two punch in terms of being able to grow as an engineer, to actually understand what you&#39;re working on.&#34; ~ @chriskrycho [https://twitter.com/chriskrycho]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ChrisKrycho.com [https://chriskrycho.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://www.linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn Learning [https://www.linkedin.com/learning/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Whiskey [https://www.oldforester.com/products/old-forester-1920-style-prohibition-whisky/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;W.L. Weller [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/our-brands/w-l-weller.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Glenlivet 14 Year Old [https://www.theglenlivet.com/en-US/the-collection/14-year-old]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Four Roses Bourbon [https://fourrosesbourbon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Runspired vs. Chris Manson on Solving the Number One Open Source Maintainer Dilemma [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/runspired-vs-chris-manson-on-solving-the-number-one-ember-issue/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberConf [https://2022.emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember TypeScript Core Team (Typ [https://blog.emberjs.com/typed-ember-is-now-the-ember-type-script-core-team/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/vhfubm8y14p60pm3q9vu9yrj/aqvf0hteh1dt4zlszqkuhgxs/transcoded-01KECKDN5TQJ2JJC2W3XNB7XY6-01KECKDN5TAYRXFTKTVZYJWE87_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Are Monorepos and NFTs Worth It?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Do you use monorepos? Do you love NFTs named after dogs? Chuck and Robbie have mixed feelings on both monorepus and Shiba Inu tokens and they&#39;re probably not the only ones conflicted. Developer tools and the metaverse are complex topics that don&#39;t always yield solidly positive or negative results. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The beauty of our ever-evolving digital space is the ability to continually iterate and learn from what&#39;s not working. Having said that, just because something is new (and trending on Twitter) doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s the best tool for the job, nor that it should be used for anything besides its original purpose. Between monorepos and digital coins, sometimes the hype outweighs the benefit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss their thoughts on monorepos, the downside to trending languages and developer tools, why the metaverse should be approached with caution, plus a whatnot covering everything under the sun. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:22] - A brief whatnot on SNOOs and Robbie&#39;s status as a new parent.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:55] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:29] - Why Robbie can&#39;t wrap his head around monorepos. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:20] - Why Robbie is (semi) entrenched in the metaverse. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:21] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s take on the Oscar slap and the future of comedy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:16] - A less serious whatnot about podcasts, electric cars, entertainment, and new babies. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:43] - &#34;I think that there&#39;s good practice in saying &#39;why?&#39; But I don&#39;t think everything should always be one way. I think that [you should] just use the best tool for the job when you come across that.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:04] - &#34;There are cases where monorepo could work and be good for people. I&#39;m not saying they suck all the time. It&#39;s my argument with everything — people use React because they think it&#39;s cool, people use TypeScript because they think it&#39;s the hotness, we need to type everything. Monorepos are cool because some guy said, &#39;hey these are cool.&#39; If it&#39;s not solving a real problem for you, just remove that from the code.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[31:31] - &#34;I still believe in the utility of the technology [of NFTs]. I do believe that there&#39;s something there. And people are just going to get more clever in the way that they apply that and there will be more security down the line. There&#39;s just way too many rug pulls these days to really make it all worth something.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SNOO [https://www.happiestbaby.com/products/snoo-smart-bassinet]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Calumet Farm 12 Year Old Single Rack Black [https://www.calumetbourbon.com/12yo-singlerackblack]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guinness Factory [https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Safari [https://www.apple.com/safari/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lerna  [https://lerna.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React  [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [http://facebook.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shiba Token [https://shibatoken.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SHIBOSHIS [https://shiboshis.shibaswap.com/#/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The RECUR Portal Pass [https://pass.recurforever.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix [http://netflix.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries [https://darknetdiaries.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PRO-SPEED Autow [https://www.prospeedautoworks.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f06258a4-d08c-11ec-859b-8b1e721563d8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ehetgv88td7ncfsfbc3sminq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you use monorepos? Do you love NFTs named after dogs? Chuck and Robbie have mixed feelings on both monorepus and Shiba Inu tokens and they're probably not the only ones conflicted. Developer tools and the metaverse are complex topics that don't always yield solidly positive or negative results. </p>
<p>The beauty of our ever-evolving digital space is the ability to continually iterate and learn from what's not working. Having said that, just because something is new (and trending on Twitter) doesn't mean it's the best tool for the job, nor that it should be used for anything besides its original purpose. Between monorepos and digital coins, sometimes the hype outweighs the benefit. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss their thoughts on monorepos, the downside to trending languages and developer tools, why the metaverse should be approached with caution, plus a whatnot covering everything under the sun. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:22] - A brief whatnot on SNOOs and Robbie's status as a new parent.</li>
<li>[02:55] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[12:29] - Why Robbie can't wrap his head around monorepos. </li>
<li>[28:20] - Why Robbie is (semi) entrenched in the metaverse. </li>
<li>[34:21] - Chuck and Robbie's take on the Oscar slap and the future of comedy.</li>
<li>[37:16] - A less serious whatnot about podcasts, electric cars, entertainment, and new babies. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[21:43] - "I think that there's good practice in saying 'why?' But I don't think everything should always be one way. I think that [you should] just use the best tool for the job when you come across that." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>[22:04] - "There are cases where monorepo could work and be good for people. I'm not saying they suck all the time. It's my argument with everything — people use React because they think it's cool, people use TypeScript because they think it's the hotness, we need to type everything. Monorepos are cool because some guy said, 'hey these are cool.' If it's not solving a real problem for you, just remove that from the code." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[31:31] - "I still believe in the utility of the technology [of NFTs]. I do believe that there's something there. And people are just going to get more clever in the way that they apply that and there will be more security down the line. There's just way too many rug pulls these days to really make it all worth something." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>SNOO [https://www.happiestbaby.com/products/snoo-smart-bassinet]</li>
<li>Calumet Farm 12 Year Old Single Rack Black [https://www.calumetbourbon.com/12yo-singlerackblack]</li>
<li>Guinness Factory [https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/]</li>
<li>Jack Daniel's [https://www.jackdaniels.com]</li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]</li>
<li>Safari [https://www.apple.com/safari/]</li>
<li>Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>Lerna  [https://lerna.js.org]</li>
<li>JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]</li>
<li>TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>React  [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Facebook [http://facebook.com]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>Shiba Token [https://shibatoken.com]</li>
<li>SHIBOSHIS [https://shiboshis.shibaswap.com/#/]</li>
<li>The RECUR Portal Pass [https://pass.recurforever.com]</li>
<li>Netflix [http://netflix.com]</li>
<li>Darknet Diaries [https://darknetdiaries.com]</li>
<li>PRO-SPEED Autow [https://www.prospeedautoworks.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Are Monorepos and NFTs Worth It?</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ehetgv88td7ncfsfbc3sminq/futavfdinxw37brrb62aso58.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4037</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Do you use monorepos? Do you love NFTs named after dogs? Chuck and Robbie have mixed feelings on both monorepus and Shiba Inu tokens and they&#39;re probably not the only ones conflicted. Developer tools and the metaverse are complex topics that don&#39;t always yield solidly positive or negative results. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The beauty of our ever-evolving digital space is the ability to continually iterate and learn from what&#39;s not working. Having said that, just because something is new (and trending on Twitter) doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s the best tool for the job, nor that it should be used for anything besides its original purpose. Between monorepos and digital coins, sometimes the hype outweighs the benefit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss their thoughts on monorepos, the downside to trending languages and developer tools, why the metaverse should be approached with caution, plus a whatnot covering everything under the sun. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:22] - A brief whatnot on SNOOs and Robbie&#39;s status as a new parent.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:55] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:29] - Why Robbie can&#39;t wrap his head around monorepos. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:20] - Why Robbie is (semi) entrenched in the metaverse. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:21] - Chuck and Robbie&#39;s take on the Oscar slap and the future of comedy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:16] - A less serious whatnot about podcasts, electric cars, entertainment, and new babies. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:43] - &#34;I think that there&#39;s good practice in saying &#39;why?&#39; But I don&#39;t think everything should always be one way. I think that [you should] just use the best tool for the job when you come across that.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:04] - &#34;There are cases where monorepo could work and be good for people. I&#39;m not saying they suck all the time. It&#39;s my argument with everything — people use React because they think it&#39;s cool, people use TypeScript because they think it&#39;s the hotness, we need to type everything. Monorepos are cool because some guy said, &#39;hey these are cool.&#39; If it&#39;s not solving a real problem for you, just remove that from the code.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[31:31] - &#34;I still believe in the utility of the technology [of NFTs]. I do believe that there&#39;s something there. And people are just going to get more clever in the way that they apply that and there will be more security down the line. There&#39;s just way too many rug pulls these days to really make it all worth something.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SNOO [https://www.happiestbaby.com/products/snoo-smart-bassinet]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Calumet Farm 12 Year Old Single Rack Black [https://www.calumetbourbon.com/12yo-singlerackblack]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guinness Factory [https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Safari [https://www.apple.com/safari/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lerna  [https://lerna.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript  [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React  [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Facebook [http://facebook.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Shiba Token [https://shibatoken.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SHIBOSHIS [https://shiboshis.shibaswap.com/#/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The RECUR Portal Pass [https://pass.recurforever.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix [http://netflix.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Darknet Diaries [https://darknetdiaries.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PRO-SPEED Autow [https://www.prospeedautoworks.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ehetgv88td7ncfsfbc3sminq/yci4vn92ird9056f6h2vyhzy/transcoded-01KECKDQNS413CTCW75TMH4F67-01KECKDQNS6Q1715X7DK8QZ2ZE_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Getting Lost in Git and Goodbye tsc</title><description>&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s been a while since Chuck and Robbie dove headfirst into trending tech topics without a guest to bounce their ideas off of. Today, they discuss the latest in TypeScript and Git, the evolution of JavaScript over the years, developer pet peeves, and what success means on a team, on the web, and on the field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:09] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:14] - What Chuck and Robbie think about introducing TypeScript to JavaScript natively. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:10] - A rant on everything except Git. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:60] - Why Robbie&#39;s been having problems with Git.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:09] - What&#39;s new from ES2022.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:44} - A football, capitalism, and bad vegan-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:40] - &#34;I think [tsc going away] definitely moves JavaScript forward as this thing you can use more than just for the web. And we&#39;ve been doing it for things other than the web forever, but I guess to the people that are outside the JavaScript community they look at it as this thing that&#39;s mostly web, and it&#39;s really evolving past that.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[20:50] - &#34;I just wish we could all agree that similar to any other language, not coding languages specifically, reading, writing, there should be punctuation.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:12] - &#34;[Opinions on languages] is such subjective overhead and us as consultants, when you find these differences from project to project, it&#39;s just not a thing worth fighting for. And the reality is, as long as there&#39;s consistency, all the answers are right and the logic is all that matters.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Senator 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey Barrel Proof, Kentucky, USA [https://fpwm.com/the-senator-6yr-straight-rye-whisky-barrel-proof-750ml/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP [https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deno [https://deno.land]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux [https://www.linux.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arduino Project Hub [https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford University [https://www.stanford.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript [https://coffeescript.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prettier [https://prettier.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mariana Tek [https://marianatek.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gooey Apps [https://gooeyapps.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html?sdid=KKQTJ&amp;amp;mv=search&amp;amp;ef_id=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE:G:s&amp;amp;s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!473182599044!e!!g!!dreamweaver!1711729661!69579430720&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UEFA Champions League [https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PSG.FR - Paris Saint Germain [https://en.psg.fr]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Real Madrid CF [https://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/squad]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kylian Mbappe [https://www.instagram.com/k.mbappe]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Karim Benzema [https://twitter.com/Benzema]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Brady [https://twitter.com/tombrady]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brett Favre [https://twitter.com/brettfavre]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boston Red Sox [https://www.mlb.com/redsox]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">66362658-bf6e-11ec-8df2-c7c367c8b7bf</guid><pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ty1wd7bavd1ci3112xjo7e0b.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's been a while since Chuck and Robbie dove headfirst into trending tech topics without a guest to bounce their ideas off of. Today, they discuss the latest in TypeScript and Git, the evolution of JavaScript over the years, developer pet peeves, and what success means on a team, on the web, and on the field.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:09] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[10:14] - What Chuck and Robbie think about introducing TypeScript to JavaScript natively. </li>
<li>[17:10] - A rant on everything except Git. </li>
<li>[23:60] - Why Robbie's been having problems with Git.</li>
<li>[33:09] - What's new from ES2022.</li>
<li>[34:44} - A football, capitalism, and bad vegan-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[13:40] - "I think [tsc going away] definitely moves JavaScript forward as this thing you can use more than just for the web. And we've been doing it for things other than the web forever, but I guess to the people that are outside the JavaScript community they look at it as this thing that's mostly web, and it's really evolving past that." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[20:50] - "I just wish we could all agree that similar to any other language, not coding languages specifically, reading, writing, there should be punctuation." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[23:12] - "[Opinions on languages] is such subjective overhead and us as consultants, when you find these differences from project to project, it's just not a thing worth fighting for. And the reality is, as long as there's consistency, all the answers are right and the logic is all that matters." ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>The Senator 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey Barrel Proof, Kentucky, USA [https://fpwm.com/the-senator-6yr-straight-rye-whisky-barrel-proof-750ml/]</li>
<li>Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]</li>
<li>TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]</li>
<li>Git [https://git-scm.com]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>CodePen [https://codepen.io]</li>
<li>PHP [https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php]</li>
<li>Deno [https://deno.land]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]</li>
<li>Linux [https://www.linux.org]</li>
<li>Arduino Project Hub [https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub]</li>
<li>Stanford University [https://www.stanford.edu]</li>
<li>CoffeeScript [https://coffeescript.org]</li>
<li>Prettier [https://prettier.io]</li>
<li>Mariana Tek [https://marianatek.com]</li>
<li>Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Gooey Apps [https://gooeyapps.com]</li>
<li>Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] </li>
<li>Adobe Dreamweaver [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html?sdid=KKQTJ&amp;mv=search&amp;ef_id=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE:G:s&amp;s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!473182599044!e!!g!!dreamweaver!1711729661!69579430720&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE]</li>
<li>UEFA Champions League [https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/]</li>
<li>PSG.FR - Paris Saint Germain [https://en.psg.fr]</li>
<li>Real Madrid CF [https://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/squad]</li>
<li>Kylian Mbappe [https://www.instagram.com/k.mbappe]</li>
<li>Karim Benzema [https://twitter.com/Benzema]</li>
<li>Tom Brady [https://twitter.com/tombrady]</li>
<li>Brett Favre [https://twitter.com/brettfavre]</li>
<li>Boston Red Sox [https://www.mlb.com/redsox]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Getting Lost in Git and Goodbye tsc</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ty1wd7bavd1ci3112xjo7e0b/m11afthre47ftp3rqejcwbg5.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3109</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It&#39;s been a while since Chuck and Robbie dove headfirst into trending tech topics without a guest to bounce their ideas off of. Today, they discuss the latest in TypeScript and Git, the evolution of JavaScript over the years, developer pet peeves, and what success means on a team, on the web, and on the field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:09] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:14] - What Chuck and Robbie think about introducing TypeScript to JavaScript natively. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:10] - A rant on everything except Git. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:60] - Why Robbie&#39;s been having problems with Git.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:09] - What&#39;s new from ES2022.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:44} - A football, capitalism, and bad vegan-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:40] - &#34;I think [tsc going away] definitely moves JavaScript forward as this thing you can use more than just for the web. And we&#39;ve been doing it for things other than the web forever, but I guess to the people that are outside the JavaScript community they look at it as this thing that&#39;s mostly web, and it&#39;s really evolving past that.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[20:50] - &#34;I just wish we could all agree that similar to any other language, not coding languages specifically, reading, writing, there should be punctuation.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:12] - &#34;[Opinions on languages] is such subjective overhead and us as consultants, when you find these differences from project to project, it&#39;s just not a thing worth fighting for. And the reality is, as long as there&#39;s consistency, all the answers are right and the logic is all that matters.&#34; ~ @CharlesWthe3rd [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Senator 6 Year Straight Rye Whiskey Barrel Proof, Kentucky, USA [https://fpwm.com/the-senator-6yr-straight-rye-whisky-barrel-proof-750ml/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TypeScript [https://www.typescriptlang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Git [https://git-scm.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PHP [https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro-whatis.php]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Deno [https://deno.land]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Linux [https://www.linux.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arduino Project Hub [https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stanford University [https://www.stanford.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CoffeeScript [https://coffeescript.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prettier [https://prettier.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mariana Tek [https://marianatek.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js  [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gooey Apps [https://gooeyapps.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html?sdid=KKQTJ&amp;amp;mv=search&amp;amp;ef_id=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE:G:s&amp;amp;s_kwcid=AL!3085!3!473182599044!e!!g!!dreamweaver!1711729661!69579430720&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwxZqSBhAHEiwASr9n9Ec768PwoGjHBRC2UoTJRGF1SPGBg4vsilWKcnwEOKsI4cQZpT6_RRoCuW0QAvD_BwE]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;UEFA Champions League [https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PSG.FR - Paris Saint Germain [https://en.psg.fr]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Real Madrid CF [https://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/squad]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kylian Mbappe [https://www.instagram.com/k.mbappe]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Karim Benzema [https://twitter.com/Benzema]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Brady [https://twitter.com/tombrady]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brett Favre [https://twitter.com/brettfavre]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Boston Red Sox [https://www.mlb.com/redsox]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/ty1wd7bavd1ci3112xjo7e0b/hx0ro6cap3benm14yo34vmjh/transcoded-01KECKDNBV649ZNP0KT1NBVTN9-01KECKDNBVKV2ZG0FHNAVPPK2K_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Developing as a Developer, Appreciating Workers, and Navigating Framework Wars with Chris Garrett</title><description>&lt;p&gt;When someone hands you an opportunity to specialize, to do something crazy with people you like, to learn from people building something before your eyes, it&#39;s difficult to pass up. An opportunity like that prompted Chris to leave LinkedIn for Bitski, a digital wallet for buying, selling, and storing NFTs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leaving what&#39;s safe and secure for what&#39;s largely unknown is definitely a risk, but Chris is a risk-taker. Despite loving Rust, Chris wanted to move away from JavaScript in the years ahead and expand his developer horizons. Plus, he&#39;s learned from experience that becoming emotionally attached to whatever you&#39;re using is a dangerous game. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about a lack of resources and corporate greed in open source, the framework eras we&#39;ve lived through and what&#39;s to come, why workers are incredible, choosing a career path, and how to keep developing as a developer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:23] - Introducing Chris and his recent good news.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:20] - An heirloom whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:12] - Why Chris left LinkedIn and what he&#39;s up to now. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:20] - What Chris learned from React.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:58] - A chat about Classes, Functions, and Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:20] - What goes awry with execution in open source.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:33] - Why open source is not sustainable and a brief history of the framework eras.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:40] - Why Bitski has moved away from Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[46:49] - What Chris thinks about Web3. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:37] - A DC, Disney, and Cars-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:33] - &#34;Honestly, I&#39;ve worked with JavaScript for 10 years now and I don&#39;t ever want to become one of those one-language devs. So I would like to be able to transition away from JavaScript at some point. Or at least transition into being able to work in multiple languages&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:51] - &#34;We built these primitives so that anybody can do it. Anybody can go and build that functionality. You don&#39;t need to RFC it to Ember. You don&#39;t need to have it be accepted by the core team.&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[44:06] - &#34;I didn&#39;t understand workers at first. I didn&#39;t understand that it fundamentally changes the dynamics of writing web applications.&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Garrett [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pzuraq/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [http://google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laws San Luis Straight Rye Whiskey  [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/our-whiskeys/#rye]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix [http://netflix.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ABC Stores [https://abcstores.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rob Jackson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwjblue/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Dale [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommothereffindale/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave Hermin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidandrewherman/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Hamilton [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hjdivad/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitski  [https://www.bitski.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ticketfly [https://www.linkedin.com/company/ticketfly/about/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Julian Tescher  [https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliant/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Patrick Tescher [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptescher/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wasm [https://webassembly.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;View [https://reactnative.dev/docs/view]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a65ea18e-ba8b-11ec-8b6e-6b0fd0f773a3</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/qmema8wtxbthui9cm4sax9ka.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone hands you an opportunity to specialize, to do something crazy with people you like, to learn from people building something before your eyes, it's difficult to pass up. An opportunity like that prompted Chris to leave LinkedIn for Bitski, a digital wallet for buying, selling, and storing NFTs. </p>
<p>Leaving what's safe and secure for what's largely unknown is definitely a risk, but Chris is a risk-taker. Despite loving Rust, Chris wanted to move away from JavaScript in the years ahead and expand his developer horizons. Plus, he's learned from experience that becoming emotionally attached to whatever you're using is a dangerous game. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about a lack of resources and corporate greed in open source, the framework eras we've lived through and what's to come, why workers are incredible, choosing a career path, and how to keep developing as a developer.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:23] - Introducing Chris and his recent good news.</li>
<li>[03:20] - An heirloom whiskey review. </li>
<li>[10:12] - Why Chris left LinkedIn and what he's up to now. </li>
<li>[17:20] - What Chris learned from React.</li>
<li>[18:58] - A chat about Classes, Functions, and Tailwind.</li>
<li>[26:20] - What goes awry with execution in open source.</li>
<li>[34:33] - Why open source is not sustainable and a brief history of the framework eras.</li>
<li>[40:40] - Why Bitski has moved away from Ember. </li>
<li>[46:49] - What Chris thinks about Web3. </li>
<li>[53:37] - A DC, Disney, and Cars-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[14:33] - "Honestly, I've worked with JavaScript for 10 years now and I don't ever want to become one of those one-language devs. So I would like to be able to transition away from JavaScript at some point. Or at least transition into being able to work in multiple languages" ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]</p>
<p>[28:51] - "We built these primitives so that anybody can do it. Anybody can go and build that functionality. You don't need to RFC it to Ember. You don't need to have it be accepted by the core team." ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]</p>
<p>[44:06] - "I didn't understand workers at first. I didn't understand that it fundamentally changes the dynamics of writing web applications." ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Chris Garrett [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pzuraq/]</li>
<li>Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]</li>
<li>LinkedIn [http://linkedin.com]</li>
<li>Google [http://google.com]</li>
<li>Laws San Luis Straight Rye Whiskey  [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/our-whiskeys/#rye]</li>
<li>Netflix [http://netflix.com] </li>
<li>ABC Stores [https://abcstores.com]</li>
<li>Rob Jackson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwjblue/]</li>
<li>Tom Dale [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommothereffindale/]</li>
<li>Dave Hermin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidandrewherman/]</li>
<li>David Hamilton [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hjdivad/]</li>
<li>Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]</li>
<li>Bitski  [https://www.bitski.com]</li>
<li>Ticketfly [https://www.linkedin.com/company/ticketfly/about/] </li>
<li>Julian Tescher  [https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliant/]</li>
<li>Patrick Tescher [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptescher/]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org] </li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Wasm [https://webassembly.org]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>View [https://reactnative.dev/docs/view]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Developing as a Developer, Appreciating Workers, and Navigating Framework Wars with Chris Garrett</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qmema8wtxbthui9cm4sax9ka/tkhtl7hp7bkwllkrb7sarv24.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4039</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When someone hands you an opportunity to specialize, to do something crazy with people you like, to learn from people building something before your eyes, it&#39;s difficult to pass up. An opportunity like that prompted Chris to leave LinkedIn for Bitski, a digital wallet for buying, selling, and storing NFTs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Leaving what&#39;s safe and secure for what&#39;s largely unknown is definitely a risk, but Chris is a risk-taker. Despite loving Rust, Chris wanted to move away from JavaScript in the years ahead and expand his developer horizons. Plus, he&#39;s learned from experience that becoming emotionally attached to whatever you&#39;re using is a dangerous game. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about a lack of resources and corporate greed in open source, the framework eras we&#39;ve lived through and what&#39;s to come, why workers are incredible, choosing a career path, and how to keep developing as a developer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:23] - Introducing Chris and his recent good news.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:20] - An heirloom whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[10:12] - Why Chris left LinkedIn and what he&#39;s up to now. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:20] - What Chris learned from React.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:58] - A chat about Classes, Functions, and Tailwind.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:20] - What goes awry with execution in open source.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[34:33] - Why open source is not sustainable and a brief history of the framework eras.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:40] - Why Bitski has moved away from Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[46:49] - What Chris thinks about Web3. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:37] - A DC, Disney, and Cars-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:33] - &#34;Honestly, I&#39;ve worked with JavaScript for 10 years now and I don&#39;t ever want to become one of those one-language devs. So I would like to be able to transition away from JavaScript at some point. Or at least transition into being able to work in multiple languages&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:51] - &#34;We built these primitives so that anybody can do it. Anybody can go and build that functionality. You don&#39;t need to RFC it to Ember. You don&#39;t need to have it be accepted by the core team.&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[44:06] - &#34;I didn&#39;t understand workers at first. I didn&#39;t understand that it fundamentally changes the dynamics of writing web applications.&#34; ~ @pzuraq [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Garrett [https://www.linkedin.com/in/pzuraq/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/pzuraq]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LinkedIn [http://linkedin.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [http://google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laws San Luis Straight Rye Whiskey  [https://lawswhiskeyhouse.com/our-whiskeys/#rye]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netflix [http://netflix.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ABC Stores [https://abcstores.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rob Jackson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwjblue/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Dale [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommothereffindale/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dave Hermin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidandrewherman/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;David Hamilton [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hjdivad/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Krycho [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriskrycho/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitski  [https://www.bitski.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ticketfly [https://www.linkedin.com/company/ticketfly/about/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Julian Tescher  [https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliant/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Patrick Tescher [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptescher/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wasm [https://webassembly.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;View [https://reactnative.dev/docs/view]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/qmema8wtxbthui9cm4sax9ka/wuxbqp7r8rx3zndihz1ymhvy/transcoded-01KECKDWC8WBNR7SQD0N7NMBZD-01KECKDWC8GMAS9BZAZW0ATR71_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Prioritizing Performance and the Future of the Terminal with Zach Lloyd</title><description>&lt;p&gt;The terminal is a constant in the dev world. Every developer will interact with the terminal in one way or another. So what if they worked better? Tools within the Google Suite inspired Warp Founder Zach Lloyd to bring that same ease of collaboration to the world of terminals. And so, Warp was born. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because you can&#39;t avoid terminals, the implications of improving such a widely-used tool are what kept Zach going and building momentum with Warp. Zach believes in tools that solve problems vs shiny new tools winning the popularity contest. And that keeps him iterating on Warp, with the ultimate goal of improving developer workflow. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Zach about elevating developer productivity, why Zach chose Rust, how Zach classifies the best engineers, a sneak peek at Warp&#39;s new features, and how he hopes Warp will revolutionize the developer experience. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:50] - An introduction to Zach.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:57] - A whiskey tasting. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:36] - A final whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:31] - Why Zach chose to tackle the terminal. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:02] - Why Zach chose Rust. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:10] - The method behind Warp&#39;s madness. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:05] - How long it took Warp to scale up. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:22] - What Zach learned as the interim CTO at TIME. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:28] - A Kanye, dogs, and sports-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:13] - &#34;One of the kind of root product ideas behind Warp was, could you build a version of a text-based interface that brings that same power to a much larger group of developers so it makes that power much more accessible.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:40] - &#34;My general philosophy for when you&#39;re building something like this is to try to pick the tool that&#39;s going to get you to the best product experience. And so it&#39;s always like working backward from what user experience is going to be best and then how do you pick the tools, and the stack, and the technology to try to achieve that.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[30:33] - &#34;In my experience, the best engineers who I&#39;ve worked with and who I prefer to work with are people who are seeing the technology as a tool for achieving an end-user result or for solving some problem.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zach Lloyd [http://@zachlloydtweets]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche Experience Center [https://www.porschedriving.com/los-angeles]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp [https://www.warp.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Workspace [https://workspace.google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma [https://www.figma.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stellum Bourbon [https://www.stellum.com/bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maynard James Keenan&#39;s wine (Caduceus) [https://caduceus.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&#39;s Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MGP of Indiana [https://www.mgpingredients.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Dickel Whiskey Distillery [https://www.georgedickel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s  [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High West Whiskey [https://www.highwest.com/products/american-prairie-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm [https://iterm2.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Sheets  [https://www.google.com/sheets/about/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e01c664e-b497-11ec-9669-1f91f273cb3f</guid><pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cf9hgmizawb8qj9ghzafe1t2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The terminal is a constant in the dev world. Every developer will interact with the terminal in one way or another. So what if they worked better? Tools within the Google Suite inspired Warp Founder Zach Lloyd to bring that same ease of collaboration to the world of terminals. And so, Warp was born. </p>
<p>Because you can't avoid terminals, the implications of improving such a widely-used tool are what kept Zach going and building momentum with Warp. Zach believes in tools that solve problems vs shiny new tools winning the popularity contest. And that keeps him iterating on Warp, with the ultimate goal of improving developer workflow. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Zach about elevating developer productivity, why Zach chose Rust, how Zach classifies the best engineers, a sneak peek at Warp's new features, and how he hopes Warp will revolutionize the developer experience. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:50] - An introduction to Zach.</li>
<li>[01:57] - A whiskey tasting. </li>
<li>[09:36] - A final whiskey review. </li>
<li>[13:31] - Why Zach chose to tackle the terminal. </li>
<li>[17:02] - Why Zach chose Rust. </li>
<li>[21:10] - The method behind Warp's madness. </li>
<li>[29:05] - How long it took Warp to scale up. </li>
<li>[33:22] - What Zach learned as the interim CTO at TIME. </li>
<li>[37:28] - A Kanye, dogs, and sports-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[15:13] - "One of the kind of root product ideas behind Warp was, could you build a version of a text-based interface that brings that same power to a much larger group of developers so it makes that power much more accessible." ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]</p>
<p>[29:40] - "My general philosophy for when you're building something like this is to try to pick the tool that's going to get you to the best product experience. And so it's always like working backward from what user experience is going to be best and then how do you pick the tools, and the stack, and the technology to try to achieve that." ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]</p>
<p>[30:33] - "In my experience, the best engineers who I've worked with and who I prefer to work with are people who are seeing the technology as a tool for achieving an end-user result or for solving some problem." ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Zach Lloyd [http://@zachlloydtweets]</li>
<li>Porsche Experience Center [https://www.porschedriving.com/los-angeles]</li>
<li>Warp [https://www.warp.dev]</li>
<li>Google Workspace [https://workspace.google.com]</li>
<li>Figma [https://www.figma.com]</li>
<li>Stellum Bourbon [https://www.stellum.com/bourbon]</li>
<li>Maynard James Keenan's wine (Caduceus) [https://caduceus.org]</li>
<li>Pappy Van Winkle's Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]</li>
<li>Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]</li>
<li>Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com]</li>
<li>Seelbach's [https://seelbachs.com]</li>
<li>Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</li>
<li>MGP of Indiana [https://www.mgpingredients.com]</li>
<li>Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]</li>
<li>George Dickel Whiskey Distillery [https://www.georgedickel.com]</li>
<li>Jack Daniel's  [https://www.jackdaniels.com]</li>
<li>High West Whiskey [https://www.highwest.com/products/american-prairie-bourbon]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]</li>
<li>iTerm [https://iterm2.com]</li>
<li>Google Sheets  [https://www.google.com/sheets/about/]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Prioritizing Performance and the Future of the Terminal with Zach Lloyd</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cf9hgmizawb8qj9ghzafe1t2/fzpthzgccpp7gq4dqem96mdv.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3455</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The terminal is a constant in the dev world. Every developer will interact with the terminal in one way or another. So what if they worked better? Tools within the Google Suite inspired Warp Founder Zach Lloyd to bring that same ease of collaboration to the world of terminals. And so, Warp was born. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because you can&#39;t avoid terminals, the implications of improving such a widely-used tool are what kept Zach going and building momentum with Warp. Zach believes in tools that solve problems vs shiny new tools winning the popularity contest. And that keeps him iterating on Warp, with the ultimate goal of improving developer workflow. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Zach about elevating developer productivity, why Zach chose Rust, how Zach classifies the best engineers, a sneak peek at Warp&#39;s new features, and how he hopes Warp will revolutionize the developer experience. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:50] - An introduction to Zach.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:57] - A whiskey tasting. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:36] - A final whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:31] - Why Zach chose to tackle the terminal. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:02] - Why Zach chose Rust. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:10] - The method behind Warp&#39;s madness. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:05] - How long it took Warp to scale up. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:22] - What Zach learned as the interim CTO at TIME. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:28] - A Kanye, dogs, and sports-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:13] - &#34;One of the kind of root product ideas behind Warp was, could you build a version of a text-based interface that brings that same power to a much larger group of developers so it makes that power much more accessible.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:40] - &#34;My general philosophy for when you&#39;re building something like this is to try to pick the tool that&#39;s going to get you to the best product experience. And so it&#39;s always like working backward from what user experience is going to be best and then how do you pick the tools, and the stack, and the technology to try to achieve that.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[30:33] - &#34;In my experience, the best engineers who I&#39;ve worked with and who I prefer to work with are people who are seeing the technology as a tool for achieving an end-user result or for solving some problem.&#34; ~ @zachlloydtweets [https://twitter.com/zachlloydtweets]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zach Lloyd [http://@zachlloydtweets]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Porsche Experience Center [https://www.porschedriving.com/los-angeles]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Warp [https://www.warp.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Workspace [https://workspace.google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Figma [https://www.figma.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stellum Bourbon [https://www.stellum.com/bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maynard James Keenan&#39;s wine (Caduceus) [https://caduceus.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pappy Van Winkle&#39;s Whiskey [https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Total Wine [https://www.totalwine.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;MGP of Indiana [https://www.mgpingredients.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;George Dickel Whiskey Distillery [https://www.georgedickel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s  [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;High West Whiskey [https://www.highwest.com/products/american-prairie-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iTerm [https://iterm2.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Sheets  [https://www.google.com/sheets/about/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cf9hgmizawb8qj9ghzafe1t2/u7kboymltdhqmuywtlfmppg7/transcoded-01KECKDTFWGZZ07FS4TBWTP6ZE-01KECKDTFWPDFFNAPRAQ3TGBE4_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Setting Standards, Community Lifelines, and the Beauty of Open Source with Jen Weber</title><description>&lt;p&gt;As developers, advancing in our careers can feel like the wild west. No guardrails, no handbook, and no standard path to success, everyone has a unique story when it comes to their coding career. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Far from a developer since childhood, Jen&#39;s no stranger to the unconventional path. Her Ember education grew within an accelerator while the bulk of her skillset expanded working in open source. While not an ideal path for everyone, the small startup environment and ability to learn from others in the Ember community was integral to Jen&#39;s growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what if there was a way to standardize? And what should come first, a standardization of skillset or ethics? At a time when tech is advancing faster than ever and Artificial Intelligence has entered the chat, Jen Weber would argue that a need for some ethical benchmarks is the more urgent ticket. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Jen about the imperfect path to developer success, how to standardize an ever-evolving industry, the struggle to measure developer expertise, and why the Ember community is largely responsible for her growth, career, and overall outlook on tech. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:26] - An introduction to Jen. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:18] - A whiskey review and freezing the perfect ice. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:32] - How Jen was introduced to Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:57] - What working at a startup taught Jen about developing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:20] - Why creating a standardized roadmap for developers is a helpful step. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:24] - What Jen thinks about ethical standardization. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:06] - The challenges of measuring developer expertise. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:57] - What hobbies Jen has outside of tech and a food-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:25] - A midwest chat. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:47] - &#34;Good coding often follows certain patterns. And there&#39;s lots of different terminology and there&#39;s tons of blog articles written about what all those different patterns are, and some of them are just kind of baked into Ember.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:20] - &#34;The [Ember] community became kind of my lifeline for figuring out how to do tricky things that were outside of what I had already learned so far, that were outside of the intro guides and tutorials. So I spent a lot of time building my knowledge through the help of other people.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:07] - &#34;I hesitate sometimes to say, &#39;work in open source&#39; because it&#39;s unpaid, on your own time. That was how I did it, and it benefited me hugely, but also I&#39;m interested in finding out other people&#39;s pathways to being successful, to growing their skills, to reaching more senior engineering levels than just this one meandering way.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Belfour Bourbon Whiskey Finished With Texas Pecan Wood [https://belfourspirits.com/our-spirits/bourbon-whiskey-finished-texas-pecan-wood]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Watcher&#39;s Whiskey Tea [https://www.adagio.com/signature_blend/blend.html?blend=86010]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver  [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember for React Developers [https://www.notion.so/Ember-For-React-Developers-556a5d343cfb4f8dab1f4d631c05c95b]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">bae2be66-af95-11ec-aded-cb09d19b1f0a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/oxuc4m8t03pxe15twlpj8de8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As developers, advancing in our careers can feel like the wild west. No guardrails, no handbook, and no standard path to success, everyone has a unique story when it comes to their coding career. </p>
<p>Far from a developer since childhood, Jen's no stranger to the unconventional path. Her Ember education grew within an accelerator while the bulk of her skillset expanded working in open source. While not an ideal path for everyone, the small startup environment and ability to learn from others in the Ember community was integral to Jen's growth.</p>
<p>But what if there was a way to standardize? And what should come first, a standardization of skillset or ethics? At a time when tech is advancing faster than ever and Artificial Intelligence has entered the chat, Jen Weber would argue that a need for some ethical benchmarks is the more urgent ticket. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Jen about the imperfect path to developer success, how to standardize an ever-evolving industry, the struggle to measure developer expertise, and why the Ember community is largely responsible for her growth, career, and overall outlook on tech. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:26] - An introduction to Jen. </li>
<li>[01:18] - A whiskey review and freezing the perfect ice. </li>
<li>[09:32] - How Jen was introduced to Ember.</li>
<li>[14:57] - What working at a startup taught Jen about developing. </li>
<li>[19:20] - Why creating a standardized roadmap for developers is a helpful step. </li>
<li>[23:24] - What Jen thinks about ethical standardization. </li>
<li>[37:06] - The challenges of measuring developer expertise. </li>
<li>[42:57] - What hobbies Jen has outside of tech and a food-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[53:25] - A midwest chat. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[09:47] - "Good coding often follows certain patterns. And there's lots of different terminology and there's tons of blog articles written about what all those different patterns are, and some of them are just kind of baked into Ember." ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]</p>
<p>[10:20] - "The [Ember] community became kind of my lifeline for figuring out how to do tricky things that were outside of what I had already learned so far, that were outside of the intro guides and tutorials. So I spent a lot of time building my knowledge through the help of other people." ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]</p>
<p>[13:07] - "I hesitate sometimes to say, 'work in open source' because it's unpaid, on your own time. That was how I did it, and it benefited me hugely, but also I'm interested in finding out other people's pathways to being successful, to growing their skills, to reaching more senior engineering levels than just this one meandering way." ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Belfour Bourbon Whiskey Finished With Texas Pecan Wood [https://belfourspirits.com/our-spirits/bourbon-whiskey-finished-texas-pecan-wood]</li>
<li>Maker's Mark 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]</li>
<li>Watcher's Whiskey Tea [https://www.adagio.com/signature_blend/blend.html?blend=86010]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Twitter [http://twitter.com]</li>
<li>Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]</li>
<li>Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] </li>
<li>Adobe Dreamweaver  [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build]</li>
<li>Ember for React Developers [https://www.notion.so/Ember-For-React-Developers-556a5d343cfb4f8dab1f4d631c05c95b]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Setting Standards, Community Lifelines, and the Beauty of Open Source with Jen Weber</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oxuc4m8t03pxe15twlpj8de8/q2m55e7424jg9lou9lfb88jh.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3853</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;As developers, advancing in our careers can feel like the wild west. No guardrails, no handbook, and no standard path to success, everyone has a unique story when it comes to their coding career. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Far from a developer since childhood, Jen&#39;s no stranger to the unconventional path. Her Ember education grew within an accelerator while the bulk of her skillset expanded working in open source. While not an ideal path for everyone, the small startup environment and ability to learn from others in the Ember community was integral to Jen&#39;s growth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what if there was a way to standardize? And what should come first, a standardization of skillset or ethics? At a time when tech is advancing faster than ever and Artificial Intelligence has entered the chat, Jen Weber would argue that a need for some ethical benchmarks is the more urgent ticket. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Jen about the imperfect path to developer success, how to standardize an ever-evolving industry, the struggle to measure developer expertise, and why the Ember community is largely responsible for her growth, career, and overall outlook on tech. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:26] - An introduction to Jen. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:18] - A whiskey review and freezing the perfect ice. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:32] - How Jen was introduced to Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:57] - What working at a startup taught Jen about developing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:20] - Why creating a standardized roadmap for developers is a helpful step. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:24] - What Jen thinks about ethical standardization. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:06] - The challenges of measuring developer expertise. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[42:57] - What hobbies Jen has outside of tech and a food-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:25] - A midwest chat. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:47] - &#34;Good coding often follows certain patterns. And there&#39;s lots of different terminology and there&#39;s tons of blog articles written about what all those different patterns are, and some of them are just kind of baked into Ember.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[10:20] - &#34;The [Ember] community became kind of my lifeline for figuring out how to do tricky things that were outside of what I had already learned so far, that were outside of the intro guides and tutorials. So I spent a lot of time building my knowledge through the help of other people.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:07] - &#34;I hesitate sometimes to say, &#39;work in open source&#39; because it&#39;s unpaid, on your own time. That was how I did it, and it benefited me hugely, but also I&#39;m interested in finding out other people&#39;s pathways to being successful, to growing their skills, to reaching more senior engineering levels than just this one meandering way.&#34; ~ @jwwweber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Belfour Bourbon Whiskey Finished With Texas Pecan Wood [https://belfourspirits.com/our-spirits/bourbon-whiskey-finished-texas-pecan-wood]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Maker&#39;s Mark 46 [https://www.makersmark.com/makers-mark-46]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Watcher&#39;s Whiskey Tea [https://www.adagio.com/signature_blend/blend.html?blend=86010]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dropbox [http://dropbox.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Adobe Dreamweaver  [https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember for React Developers [https://www.notion.so/Ember-For-React-Developers-556a5d343cfb4f8dab1f4d631c05c95b]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/oxuc4m8t03pxe15twlpj8de8/q3tok7hzwaj9e1dkbu3hypwc/transcoded-01KECKDWD94QW1PY5TTX622M5F-01KECKDWD944XCHF3EVSG2H0RM_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Transitioning to Tech and Writing What You Know with Kara Luton</title><description>&lt;p&gt;When it seems like everyone around you has worked in the same field for a really long time, making a career pivot with confidence can be tricky. But not everyone&#39;s been coding since their early college days like Robbie and Chuck. Kara Luton started on track to become a professional ballerina. After college and a stint in music publicity, burnout prompted Kara to make a hard left and begin a career in tech. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all the developer bootcamps and online resources now available, making the switch has never been more accessible. Not to mention, the skills Kara learned as a ballerina and a music publicist helped shape the developer she is today. From staying dedicated and detail-oriented, learning to write and learning from burnout, Kara wouldn&#39;t change anything about her unconventional path to software.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Kara about her experience learning and relearning Ember, why she loves the Ember community, her advice for those looking to switch careers, Kara&#39;s cool home office, and why every developer has something valuable to offer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:58] - A brief introduction to Kara. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:16] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:51] - Kara&#39;s non-traditional path to tech. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:57] - Kara&#39;s experience in a bootcamp and her thoughts on bootcamps as a developer launchpad.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:34] - How Kara found Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:10] - Kara&#39;s advice for people looking to make a career pivot.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:44] - Why Kara&#39;s looking forward to contributing to open source projects. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:30] - How Kara&#39;s home office setup has evolved. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:57] - Kara&#39;s thoughts on NFTs. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:17] - Why Kara loves animals and a deep dive on her two pet dogs. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:48] - More of Kara&#39;s hobbies outside of the web and a chat about Marvel movies. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[58:48] - A soccer and sports-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:20] - &#34;Ballet, it&#39;s very detail-oriented and I feel like that&#39;s something that&#39;s really helped me in my career as a developer, like missing a semicolon or understanding the different syntaxes — it&#39;s really helped me a lot. I&#39;m really really grateful for my time doing ballet.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:37] - &#34;Contributing to the framework that you use will give you such good knowledge of it, even if it&#39;s something small.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[31:59] - &#34;You never know if something you say, the way you phrase something, will just make it click for somebody in a way that they haven&#39;t understood it before. I really really recommend people writing blog posts.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike [http://crowdstrike.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer.js [https://glimmerjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Three Chord Bourbon Strange Collaboration [https://threechordbourbon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nelson&#39;s Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nashville Predators [https://www.nhl.com/predators]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joffrey Ballet School Summer Intensives [https://www.joffreyballetschool.com/summer-intensives]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Belmont University [https://www.belmont.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;freeCodeCamp [https://www.freecodecamp.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codecademy [https://www.codecademy.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Tablada [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantablada/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rock &amp;amp; Roll with Ember.JS [https://balinterdi.com/rock-and-roll-with-emberjs/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dev.to [https://dev.to]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">46b53af8-aa24-11ec-9d55-d38cba7d229d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yapkyl1bxewulbjyf90ey8rl.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it seems like everyone around you has worked in the same field for a really long time, making a career pivot with confidence can be tricky. But not everyone's been coding since their early college days like Robbie and Chuck. Kara Luton started on track to become a professional ballerina. After college and a stint in music publicity, burnout prompted Kara to make a hard left and begin a career in tech. </p>
<p>With all the developer bootcamps and online resources now available, making the switch has never been more accessible. Not to mention, the skills Kara learned as a ballerina and a music publicist helped shape the developer she is today. From staying dedicated and detail-oriented, learning to write and learning from burnout, Kara wouldn't change anything about her unconventional path to software.</p>
<p>In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Kara about her experience learning and relearning Ember, why she loves the Ember community, her advice for those looking to switch careers, Kara's cool home office, and why every developer has something valuable to offer. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:58] - A brief introduction to Kara. </li>
<li>[03:16] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[08:51] - Kara's non-traditional path to tech. </li>
<li>[15:57] - Kara's experience in a bootcamp and her thoughts on bootcamps as a developer launchpad.</li>
<li>[17:34] - How Kara found Ember. </li>
<li>[23:10] - Kara's advice for people looking to make a career pivot.</li>
<li>[28:44] - Why Kara's looking forward to contributing to open source projects. </li>
<li>[32:30] - How Kara's home office setup has evolved. </li>
<li>[37:57] - Kara's thoughts on NFTs. </li>
<li>[40:17] - Why Kara loves animals and a deep dive on her two pet dogs. </li>
<li>[47:48] - More of Kara's hobbies outside of the web and a chat about Marvel movies. </li>
<li>[58:48] - A soccer and sports-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[15:20] - "Ballet, it's very detail-oriented and I feel like that's something that's really helped me in my career as a developer, like missing a semicolon or understanding the different syntaxes — it's really helped me a lot. I'm really really grateful for my time doing ballet." ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]</p>
<p>[29:37] - "Contributing to the framework that you use will give you such good knowledge of it, even if it's something small." ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]</p>
<p>[31:59] - "You never know if something you say, the way you phrase something, will just make it click for somebody in a way that they haven't understood it before. I really really recommend people writing blog posts." ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]</li>
<li>CrowdStrike [http://crowdstrike.com]</li>
<li>Glimmer.js [https://glimmerjs.com]</li>
<li>Three Chord Bourbon Strange Collaboration [https://threechordbourbon.com]</li>
<li>Nelson's Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] </li>
<li>Nashville Predators [https://www.nhl.com/predators]</li>
<li>Joffrey Ballet School Summer Intensives [https://www.joffreyballetschool.com/summer-intensives]</li>
<li>Belmont University [https://www.belmont.edu]</li>
<li>freeCodeCamp [https://www.freecodecamp.org]</li>
<li>Codecademy [https://www.codecademy.com] </li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Ryan Tablada [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantablada/]</li>
<li>Rock &amp; Roll with Ember.JS [https://balinterdi.com/rock-and-roll-with-emberjs/]</li>
<li>Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]</li>
<li>Dev.to [https://dev.to]</li>
<li>Ed Faulkner</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Transitioning to Tech and Writing What You Know with Kara Luton</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yapkyl1bxewulbjyf90ey8rl/srl54i2fbza4d07selkiilkx.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3922</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When it seems like everyone around you has worked in the same field for a really long time, making a career pivot with confidence can be tricky. But not everyone&#39;s been coding since their early college days like Robbie and Chuck. Kara Luton started on track to become a professional ballerina. After college and a stint in music publicity, burnout prompted Kara to make a hard left and begin a career in tech. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all the developer bootcamps and online resources now available, making the switch has never been more accessible. Not to mention, the skills Kara learned as a ballerina and a music publicist helped shape the developer she is today. From staying dedicated and detail-oriented, learning to write and learning from burnout, Kara wouldn&#39;t change anything about her unconventional path to software.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chuck and Robbie talk with Kara about her experience learning and relearning Ember, why she loves the Ember community, her advice for those looking to switch careers, Kara&#39;s cool home office, and why every developer has something valuable to offer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:58] - A brief introduction to Kara. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[03:16] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:51] - Kara&#39;s non-traditional path to tech. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:57] - Kara&#39;s experience in a bootcamp and her thoughts on bootcamps as a developer launchpad.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:34] - How Kara found Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:10] - Kara&#39;s advice for people looking to make a career pivot.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:44] - Why Kara&#39;s looking forward to contributing to open source projects. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:30] - How Kara&#39;s home office setup has evolved. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:57] - Kara&#39;s thoughts on NFTs. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:17] - Why Kara loves animals and a deep dive on her two pet dogs. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:48] - More of Kara&#39;s hobbies outside of the web and a chat about Marvel movies. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[58:48] - A soccer and sports-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:20] - &#34;Ballet, it&#39;s very detail-oriented and I feel like that&#39;s something that&#39;s really helped me in my career as a developer, like missing a semicolon or understanding the different syntaxes — it&#39;s really helped me a lot. I&#39;m really really grateful for my time doing ballet.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[29:37] - &#34;Contributing to the framework that you use will give you such good knowledge of it, even if it&#39;s something small.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[31:59] - &#34;You never know if something you say, the way you phrase something, will just make it click for somebody in a way that they haven&#39;t understood it before. I really really recommend people writing blog posts.&#34; ~ Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kara Luton [https://www.karaluton.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CrowdStrike [http://crowdstrike.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glimmer.js [https://glimmerjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Three Chord Bourbon Strange Collaboration [https://threechordbourbon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nelson&#39;s Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nashville Predators [https://www.nhl.com/predators]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Joffrey Ballet School Summer Intensives [https://www.joffreyballetschool.com/summer-intensives]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Belmont University [https://www.belmont.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;freeCodeCamp [https://www.freecodecamp.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Codecademy [https://www.codecademy.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Tablada [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantablada/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rock &amp;amp; Roll with Ember.JS [https://balinterdi.com/rock-and-roll-with-emberjs/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Octane [https://emberjs.com/editions/octane/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dev.to [https://dev.to]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ed Faulkner&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yapkyl1bxewulbjyf90ey8rl/emqaz9e97zvdu41eghxdi2rs/transcoded-01KECKEC5T6AP1R2RJQT6CSVJX-01KECKEC5TTJJDYYC0S8X8GWHY_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Alternatives to Relay, the GraphQL Stack, and Adulthood with Charles Lowell and Taras Mankovski</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Just because something is widely used doesn&#39;t always mean it&#39;s your best solution. Frontside Founder Charles Lowell and CEO Taras Mankovski, stumbled into an alt GraphQL stack simply because the nature of a product didn&#39;t mesh with Apollo. After happening upon two up-and-coming technologies, GraphQL modules and Envelope, a solution was born, as was a newfound flexibility with GraphQL stacks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Charles and Taras talk with Chuck and Robbie about their accidental developer discovery, the drawbacks of UI libraries, what a Relay alternative looks like, what in the world Pact is, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:48] - An introduction to the Frontside guys.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:29] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:46] - How Charles and Taras discovered a less-than-ordinary GraphQL stack.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:39] - Why JSON:API doesn&#39;t always make sense.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:11] - Taras&#39; criteria for a valuable alternative to Relay. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:04] - What is Pact? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:30] - An NFT chat, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:45] - Charles&#39; and Taras&#39; hobbies outside of the web and the best way to bond with your baby. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:38] - A few last-minute mentions. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:04] - &#34;Relay is complex, it&#39;s difficult, and it&#39;s not as magical as other things that I&#39;ve used. So I actually don&#39;t think that the primary benefit is to the clients that consume it, ironically. I think the benefit is to the developers that are trying to understand.&#34; ~ Charles Lowell [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[56:20] - &#34;The combination of testing and simulation and the developer experience stuff, and the emergence of developer experience as an area of focus is exciting and interesting in the same way that web and Ember was when it started. Just that sense of, we&#39;re discovering something new and there are people who are actively trying to solve a problem.&#34; ~ Taras Mankovski [https://twitter.com/tarasm] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charles on Twitter [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taras on Twitter [https://twitter.com/tarasm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontside [http://frontside.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Balvenie Doublewood 12 [https://www.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-collection/cask-finishes/doublewood-12/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Singleton of Glendullan Liberty [https://whizzky.net/whisky.php?ref=3614-The-Singleton-of-Glendullan-Liberty]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo [http://apollo.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Envelope [https://www.workflowproducts.com/envelope.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit [https://orbitjs.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Relay [https://relay.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pact [http://pact.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swach [https://swach.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;No JS [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/no-js/id1062685513]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeGen [https://codegen.eu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Sandbox [https://sandboxgame.gitbook.io/the-sandbox/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c75ad10e-a3df-11ec-9efd-df6ea73810be</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/pz3r0efx2osmiyk2bvjhi78w.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because something is widely used doesn't always mean it's your best solution. Frontside Founder Charles Lowell and CEO Taras Mankovski, stumbled into an alt GraphQL stack simply because the nature of a product didn't mesh with Apollo. After happening upon two up-and-coming technologies, GraphQL modules and Envelope, a solution was born, as was a newfound flexibility with GraphQL stacks.</p>
<p>In this episode, Charles and Taras talk with Chuck and Robbie about their accidental developer discovery, the drawbacks of UI libraries, what a Relay alternative looks like, what in the world Pact is, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:48] - An introduction to the Frontside guys.</li>
<li>[02:29] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[08:46] - How Charles and Taras discovered a less-than-ordinary GraphQL stack.</li>
<li>[18:39] - Why JSON:API doesn't always make sense.</li>
<li>[23:11] - Taras' criteria for a valuable alternative to Relay. </li>
<li>[25:04] - What is Pact? </li>
<li>[28:30] - An NFT chat, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. </li>
<li>[41:45] - Charles' and Taras' hobbies outside of the web and the best way to bond with your baby. </li>
<li>[54:38] - A few last-minute mentions. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[21:04] - "Relay is complex, it's difficult, and it's not as magical as other things that I've used. So I actually don't think that the primary benefit is to the clients that consume it, ironically. I think the benefit is to the developers that are trying to understand." ~ Charles Lowell [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]</p>
<p>[56:20] - "The combination of testing and simulation and the developer experience stuff, and the emergence of developer experience as an area of focus is exciting and interesting in the same way that web and Ember was when it started. Just that sense of, we're discovering something new and there are people who are actively trying to solve a problem." ~ Taras Mankovski [https://twitter.com/tarasm] </p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Charles on Twitter [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]</li>
<li>Taras on Twitter [https://twitter.com/tarasm]</li>
<li>Frontside [http://frontside.io] </li>
<li>The Balvenie Doublewood 12 [https://www.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-collection/cask-finishes/doublewood-12/] </li>
<li>The Singleton of Glendullan Liberty [https://whizzky.net/whisky.php?ref=3614-The-Singleton-of-Glendullan-Liberty]</li>
<li>GraphQL [https://graphql.org]</li>
<li>Apollo [http://apollo.io] </li>
<li>Discord [https://discord.com]</li>
<li>Envelope [https://www.workflowproducts.com/envelope.html]</li>
<li>JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]</li>
<li>runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]</li>
<li>Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]</li>
<li>Orbit [https://orbitjs.com] </li>
<li>Relay [https://relay.dev]</li>
<li>Pact [http://pact.io]</li>
<li>Swach [https://swach.io]</li>
<li>Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]</li>
<li>Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]</li>
<li>No JS [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/no-js/id1062685513]</li>
<li>Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]</li>
<li>Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]</li>
<li>CodeGen [https://codegen.eu]</li>
<li>The Sandbox [https://sandboxgame.gitbook.io/the-sandbox/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Alternatives to Relay, the GraphQL Stack, and Adulthood with Charles Lowell and Taras Mankovski</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pz3r0efx2osmiyk2bvjhi78w/yqp0xutr3aa0r84k1hrvvieb.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3604</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Just because something is widely used doesn&#39;t always mean it&#39;s your best solution. Frontside Founder Charles Lowell and CEO Taras Mankovski, stumbled into an alt GraphQL stack simply because the nature of a product didn&#39;t mesh with Apollo. After happening upon two up-and-coming technologies, GraphQL modules and Envelope, a solution was born, as was a newfound flexibility with GraphQL stacks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Charles and Taras talk with Chuck and Robbie about their accidental developer discovery, the drawbacks of UI libraries, what a Relay alternative looks like, what in the world Pact is, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:48] - An introduction to the Frontside guys.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:29] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:46] - How Charles and Taras discovered a less-than-ordinary GraphQL stack.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:39] - Why JSON:API doesn&#39;t always make sense.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:11] - Taras&#39; criteria for a valuable alternative to Relay. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:04] - What is Pact? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:30] - An NFT chat, and why adulthood is vastly overrated. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:45] - Charles&#39; and Taras&#39; hobbies outside of the web and the best way to bond with your baby. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:38] - A few last-minute mentions. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[21:04] - &#34;Relay is complex, it&#39;s difficult, and it&#39;s not as magical as other things that I&#39;ve used. So I actually don&#39;t think that the primary benefit is to the clients that consume it, ironically. I think the benefit is to the developers that are trying to understand.&#34; ~ Charles Lowell [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[56:20] - &#34;The combination of testing and simulation and the developer experience stuff, and the emergence of developer experience as an area of focus is exciting and interesting in the same way that web and Ember was when it started. Just that sense of, we&#39;re discovering something new and there are people who are actively trying to solve a problem.&#34; ~ Taras Mankovski [https://twitter.com/tarasm] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charles on Twitter [https://twitter.com/cowboyd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Taras on Twitter [https://twitter.com/tarasm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Frontside [http://frontside.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Balvenie Doublewood 12 [https://www.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-collection/cask-finishes/doublewood-12/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Singleton of Glendullan Liberty [https://whizzky.net/whisky.php?ref=3614-The-Singleton-of-Glendullan-Liberty]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo [http://apollo.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Envelope [https://www.workflowproducts.com/envelope.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON:API [https://jsonapi.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Data [https://guides.emberjs.com/release/models/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Orbit [https://orbitjs.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Relay [https://relay.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pact [http://pact.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Swach [https://swach.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;No JS [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/no-js/id1062685513]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rails [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodeGen [https://codegen.eu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Sandbox [https://sandboxgame.gitbook.io/the-sandbox/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/pz3r0efx2osmiyk2bvjhi78w/w8zl45bi1j274asycf3ndhpu/transcoded-01KECKDWPGMPBVD3DXBTRNPF02-01KECKDWPGGY51RH2NB98W34A7_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie Gerard loves to experiment. Her love for experimentation and JS has propelled Charlie into the world of machine learning and in turn inspired her recent book, Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forever iterating on her projects and experimentations, Charlie extends that desire for growth into her professional life, even pursuing a Bachelor&#39;s Degree in Computer Science and dabbling as a Google Developer Expert outside of her Netlify 9-5. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Charlie talks with Chuck and Robbie about her role at Netlify, why DX engineers matter, the real relationship between Remix and Netlify, Charlie&#39;s approach to machine learning, and her thoughts on why web3 can be used for good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:30] - An introduction to Charlie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:04] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:53] - Why Charlie wrote a book about JavaScript and machine learning. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:23] - How Charlie comes up with the projects she works on. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:24] - What Charlie does at Netlify and what it means to be a Google Developer Expert. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:43] - What Charlie knows about the relationship between Remix and Netlify. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:23] - Why DX engineering matters. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:33] - A deep dive on Charlie&#39;s Twitter and her hobbies outside of tech. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:40] - How Charlie thinks web3 can be used for good.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:48] - &#34;Every time I have an idea, I kind of tweak it to push it as far as I can or until I get bored and then I move onto another one. But it&#39;s never like I wake up and have a great idea. I wish it was like that. But most of the time it&#39;s more an evolution of ideas or inspiration that I find online, other people sharing their stuff, and it generates an idea in my head.&#34; ~ @devdevcharlie [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie on Twitter [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Balvenie Caribbean Cask 14 [https://us.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-range/view/caribbean-cask-14/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript  [https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Machine-Learning-JavaScript-TensorFlow-js/dp/1484264177]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TensorFlow [https://www.tensorflow.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python  [https://www.python.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TensorFlow.js [https://www.tensorflow.org/js]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vanilla JS [http://vanilla-js.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Create React App [https://create-react-app.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome Dino Game [https://chromedino.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Street Fighter [https://www.streetfighter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon [http://amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [http://google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Android [http://android.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: The Beauty of Remix, Falling for Tailwind, and Why NFTs Are a Scam with Kent C. Dodds [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/the-beauty-of-remix-falling-for-tailwind-and-why-efts-are-a-scam-with-kent-c-dodds/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backstage [https://github.com/backstage/backstage]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube [http://youtube.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c20b7b22-9e62-11ec-bfde-9f6fb2c42b07</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/zqodmtpfqcl39bekbi31ake2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Gerard loves to experiment. Her love for experimentation and JS has propelled Charlie into the world of machine learning and in turn inspired her recent book, Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript. </p>
<p>Forever iterating on her projects and experimentations, Charlie extends that desire for growth into her professional life, even pursuing a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science and dabbling as a Google Developer Expert outside of her Netlify 9-5. </p>
<p>In this episode, Charlie talks with Chuck and Robbie about her role at Netlify, why DX engineers matter, the real relationship between Remix and Netlify, Charlie's approach to machine learning, and her thoughts on why web3 can be used for good.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:30] - An introduction to Charlie. </li>
<li>[01:04] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[07:53] - Why Charlie wrote a book about JavaScript and machine learning. </li>
<li>[11:23] - How Charlie comes up with the projects she works on. </li>
<li>[18:24] - What Charlie does at Netlify and what it means to be a Google Developer Expert. </li>
<li>[22:43] - What Charlie knows about the relationship between Remix and Netlify. </li>
<li>[26:23] - Why DX engineering matters. </li>
<li>[31:33] - A deep dive on Charlie's Twitter and her hobbies outside of tech. </li>
<li>[41:40] - How Charlie thinks web3 can be used for good.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[13:48] - "Every time I have an idea, I kind of tweak it to push it as far as I can or until I get bored and then I move onto another one. But it's never like I wake up and have a great idea. I wish it was like that. But most of the time it's more an evolution of ideas or inspiration that I find online, other people sharing their stuff, and it generates an idea in my head." ~ @devdevcharlie [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Charlie on Twitter [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]</li>
<li>Netlify [https://www.netlify.com] </li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]</li>
<li>The Balvenie Caribbean Cask 14 [https://us.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-range/view/caribbean-cask-14/]</li>
<li>Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript  [https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Machine-Learning-JavaScript-TensorFlow-js/dp/1484264177]</li>
<li>TensorFlow [https://www.tensorflow.org]</li>
<li>Python  [https://www.python.org]</li>
<li>TensorFlow.js [https://www.tensorflow.org/js]</li>
<li>Vanilla JS [http://vanilla-js.com]</li>
<li>Create React App [https://create-react-app.dev]</li>
<li>Chrome Dino Game [https://chromedino.com]</li>
<li>Street Fighter [https://www.streetfighter.com/]</li>
<li>Amazon [http://amazon.com]</li>
<li>Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]</li>
<li>Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]</li>
<li>Google [http://google.com]</li>
<li>Android [http://android.com]</li>
<li>Angular [https://angular.io]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>Vercel [https://vercel.com]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: The Beauty of Remix, Falling for Tailwind, and Why NFTs Are a Scam with Kent C. Dodds [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/the-beauty-of-remix-falling-for-tailwind-and-why-efts-are-a-scam-with-kent-c-dodds/]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build]</li>
<li>RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]</li>
<li>Backstage [https://github.com/backstage/backstage]</li>
<li>Discord  [https://discord.com]</li>
<li>YouTube [http://youtube.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zqodmtpfqcl39bekbi31ake2/p6utgg2eovpsnd0y7ocg4jsn.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3393</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Charlie Gerard loves to experiment. Her love for experimentation and JS has propelled Charlie into the world of machine learning and in turn inspired her recent book, Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forever iterating on her projects and experimentations, Charlie extends that desire for growth into her professional life, even pursuing a Bachelor&#39;s Degree in Computer Science and dabbling as a Google Developer Expert outside of her Netlify 9-5. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Charlie talks with Chuck and Robbie about her role at Netlify, why DX engineers matter, the real relationship between Remix and Netlify, Charlie&#39;s approach to machine learning, and her thoughts on why web3 can be used for good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:30] - An introduction to Charlie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:04] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:53] - Why Charlie wrote a book about JavaScript and machine learning. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:23] - How Charlie comes up with the projects she works on. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:24] - What Charlie does at Netlify and what it means to be a Google Developer Expert. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:43] - What Charlie knows about the relationship between Remix and Netlify. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:23] - Why DX engineering matters. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:33] - A deep dive on Charlie&#39;s Twitter and her hobbies outside of tech. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:40] - How Charlie thinks web3 can be used for good.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[13:48] - &#34;Every time I have an idea, I kind of tweak it to push it as far as I can or until I get bored and then I move onto another one. But it&#39;s never like I wake up and have a great idea. I wish it was like that. But most of the time it&#39;s more an evolution of ideas or inspiration that I find online, other people sharing their stuff, and it generates an idea in my head.&#34; ~ @devdevcharlie [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Charlie on Twitter [https://twitter.com/devdevcharlie]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Balvenie Caribbean Cask 14 [https://us.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-range/view/caribbean-cask-14/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Practical Machine Learning in JavaScript  [https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Machine-Learning-JavaScript-TensorFlow-js/dp/1484264177]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TensorFlow [https://www.tensorflow.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Python  [https://www.python.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;TensorFlow.js [https://www.tensorflow.org/js]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vanilla JS [http://vanilla-js.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Create React App [https://create-react-app.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chrome Dino Game [https://chromedino.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Street Fighter [https://www.streetfighter.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon [http://amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Developer Expert [https://developers.google.com/community/experts]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google [http://google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Android [http://android.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: The Beauty of Remix, Falling for Tailwind, and Why NFTs Are a Scam with Kent C. Dodds [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/the-beauty-of-remix-falling-for-tailwind-and-why-efts-are-a-scam-with-kent-c-dodds/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Backstage [https://github.com/backstage/backstage]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YouTube [http://youtube.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/zqodmtpfqcl39bekbi31ake2/bzyd7ufvx6lng79gx33hdloi/transcoded-01KECKDTZNJ2NNBGG18KSM6SAG-01KECKDTZNMT1F6ZNMBRJBN6K8_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Creating CodePen, Tackling Tailwind, and Keeping It Simple with Chris Coyier</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Ten years after launching CodePen, Co-Founder Chris Coyier still thinks of his company as a scrappy startup. That&#39;s because CodePen, an app and social community for testing and creating web projects, still feels like a company striving to prove itself in a world of jaded developers. Nevertheless, CodePen has successfully reached developers as they&#39;re learning to code. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about his online opinions that align and differ from Robbie&#39;s, the evolution of CodePen, how they&#39;ve managed to monetize, the advantages of sticking with CSS, why blogging is like grinding, and Chris&#39; parenting advice for new dads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:23] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:10] - The beauty of CodePen and a brief chat about Tampa. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:11] - The niche that sets CodePen apart. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:03] - Why going serverless is a wonderful thing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:11] - How CodePen has evolved and how they have monetized. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:06] - How CodePen uses information for good. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:16] - How CSS-Tricks came to be and Chris&#39; other digital passions. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:38] - What Chris thinks of Tailwind. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:59] - What new things are coming to CSS. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:42] - Chris&#39; dad advice for Robbie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[57:31] - A Rick Steves whatnot, complaints about Italian food, and why deadlines work. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:59] - &#34;Not a day has gone by, pretty much in the 10 years we&#39;ve been running this, where there isn&#39;t some kind of jaw-dropping, interesting creation on CodePen.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[45:25] - &#34;If you just let CSS be, just use the language, you get all this stuff. But if you have to wait for an abstraction to come later, maybe it never does arrive or maybe it comes in a way that&#39;s too abstracted that&#39;s not all that useful. There&#39;s an advantage to just sticking to the core language.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[49:28] - &#34;The rule is, just leave it alone. Do not open up somebody else&#39;s thing and reorder their inputs and commit that. Because that is just noise, and it doesn&#39;t matter.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Riff Single Barrel Bourbon [https://www.newriffdistilling.com/spirits/single-barrel-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit  [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sass [https://sass-lang.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dart [https://dart.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin [https://bitcoin.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eyeframe [https://eyeframeconverter.wordpress.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go [https://go.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquia [https://www.acquia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen PRO Plans [https://codepen.io/accounts/signup]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The CodePen Spark (CodePen newsletter) [https://blog.codepen.io/2016/12/08/the-codepen-spark/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress [http://wordpress.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How to Fetch and Parse RSS Feeds in JavaScript [https://css-tricks.com/how-to-fetch-and-parse-rss-feeds-in-javascript/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0ac1ae9e-98dd-11ec-b033-c3c43ee902a6</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yy5c7xp28wb3n4u8fyumsqo6.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ten years after launching CodePen, Co-Founder Chris Coyier still thinks of his company as a scrappy startup. That's because CodePen, an app and social community for testing and creating web projects, still feels like a company striving to prove itself in a world of jaded developers. Nevertheless, CodePen has successfully reached developers as they're learning to code. </p>
<p>In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about his online opinions that align and differ from Robbie's, the evolution of CodePen, how they've managed to monetize, the advantages of sticking with CSS, why blogging is like grinding, and Chris' parenting advice for new dads.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[02:23] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[11:10] - The beauty of CodePen and a brief chat about Tampa. </li>
<li>[16:11] - The niche that sets CodePen apart. </li>
<li>[18:03] - Why going serverless is a wonderful thing. </li>
<li>[23:11] - How CodePen has evolved and how they have monetized. </li>
<li>[25:06] - How CodePen uses information for good. </li>
<li>[27:16] - How CSS-Tricks came to be and Chris' other digital passions. </li>
<li>[38:38] - What Chris thinks of Tailwind. </li>
<li>[44:59] - What new things are coming to CSS. </li>
<li>[49:42] - Chris' dad advice for Robbie. </li>
<li>[57:31] - A Rick Steves whatnot, complaints about Italian food, and why deadlines work. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[23:59] - "Not a day has gone by, pretty much in the 10 years we've been running this, where there isn't some kind of jaw-dropping, interesting creation on CodePen." ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]</p>
<p>[45:25] - "If you just let CSS be, just use the language, you get all this stuff. But if you have to wait for an abstraction to come later, maybe it never does arrive or maybe it comes in a way that's too abstracted that's not all that useful. There's an advantage to just sticking to the core language." ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]</p>
<p>[49:28] - "The rule is, just leave it alone. Do not open up somebody else's thing and reorder their inputs and commit that. Because that is just noise, and it doesn't matter." ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]</li>
<li>Discord  [https://discord.com]</li>
<li>New Riff Single Barrel Bourbon [https://www.newriffdistilling.com/spirits/single-barrel-bourbon-whiskey/]</li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit  [https://sagamorespirit.com]</li>
<li>Jack Daniel's [https://www.jackdaniels.com]</li>
<li>Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]</li>
<li>CodePen [https://codepen.io]</li>
<li>Sass [https://sass-lang.com]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>Dart [https://dart.dev]</li>
<li>Bitcoin [https://bitcoin.org]</li>
<li>Eyeframe [https://eyeframeconverter.wordpress.com]</li>
<li>Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]</li>
<li>Go [https://go.dev]</li>
<li>Acquia [https://www.acquia.com]</li>
<li>Ruby [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>VS Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]</li>
<li>CodePen PRO Plans [https://codepen.io/accounts/signup]</li>
<li>The CodePen Spark (CodePen newsletter) [https://blog.codepen.io/2016/12/08/the-codepen-spark/]</li>
<li>CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com]</li>
<li>WordPress [http://wordpress.com]</li>
<li>How to Fetch and Parse RSS Feeds in JavaScript [https://css-tricks.com/how-to-fetch-and-parse-rss-feeds-in-javascript/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Creating CodePen, Tackling Tailwind, and Keeping It Simple with Chris Coyier</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yy5c7xp28wb3n4u8fyumsqo6/z08fdt8hr2pj775raf3cgi4k.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4198</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Ten years after launching CodePen, Co-Founder Chris Coyier still thinks of his company as a scrappy startup. That&#39;s because CodePen, an app and social community for testing and creating web projects, still feels like a company striving to prove itself in a world of jaded developers. Nevertheless, CodePen has successfully reached developers as they&#39;re learning to code. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Chris talks with Chuck and Robbie about his online opinions that align and differ from Robbie&#39;s, the evolution of CodePen, how they&#39;ve managed to monetize, the advantages of sticking with CSS, why blogging is like grinding, and Chris&#39; parenting advice for new dads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:23] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:10] - The beauty of CodePen and a brief chat about Tampa. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:11] - The niche that sets CodePen apart. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:03] - Why going serverless is a wonderful thing. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:11] - How CodePen has evolved and how they have monetized. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:06] - How CodePen uses information for good. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:16] - How CSS-Tricks came to be and Chris&#39; other digital passions. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[38:38] - What Chris thinks of Tailwind. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:59] - What new things are coming to CSS. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:42] - Chris&#39; dad advice for Robbie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[57:31] - A Rick Steves whatnot, complaints about Italian food, and why deadlines work. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:59] - &#34;Not a day has gone by, pretty much in the 10 years we&#39;ve been running this, where there isn&#39;t some kind of jaw-dropping, interesting creation on CodePen.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[45:25] - &#34;If you just let CSS be, just use the language, you get all this stuff. But if you have to wait for an abstraction to come later, maybe it never does arrive or maybe it comes in a way that&#39;s too abstracted that&#39;s not all that useful. There&#39;s an advantage to just sticking to the core language.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[49:28] - &#34;The rule is, just leave it alone. Do not open up somebody else&#39;s thing and reorder their inputs and commit that. Because that is just noise, and it doesn&#39;t matter.&#34; ~ @chriscoyier [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris on Twitter [https://twitter.com/chriscoyier]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Discord  [https://discord.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New Riff Single Barrel Bourbon [https://www.newriffdistilling.com/spirits/single-barrel-bourbon-whiskey/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit  [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jack Daniel&#39;s [https://www.jackdaniels.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jim Beam [https://www.jimbeam.com/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen [https://codepen.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sass [https://sass-lang.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dart [https://dart.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Bitcoin [https://bitcoin.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eyeframe [https://eyeframeconverter.wordpress.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rust [https://www.rust-lang.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Go [https://go.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquia [https://www.acquia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VS Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CodePen PRO Plans [https://codepen.io/accounts/signup]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The CodePen Spark (CodePen newsletter) [https://blog.codepen.io/2016/12/08/the-codepen-spark/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WordPress [http://wordpress.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How to Fetch and Parse RSS Feeds in JavaScript [https://css-tricks.com/how-to-fetch-and-parse-rss-feeds-in-javascript/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yy5c7xp28wb3n4u8fyumsqo6/cyj24nm0fb6av2t6pdgmeh53/transcoded-01KECKEDA1HBY8Z3EHEGR0S42A-01KECKEDA1X3EEMQGN08W1A28P_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Runspired vs. Chris Manson on Solving the Number One Open Source Maintainer Dilemma</title><description>&lt;p&gt;As Chris Thoburn (otherwise known as runspired) began prepping for his own Whiskey Web and Whatnot, he found himself driving along to Chris Manson&#39;s episode from a few weeks prior. Nodding along as Chris explained his point of view on all things Ember, runspired suddenly slammed on the brakes after hearing one pivotal sentence. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the center of his break slam and today&#39;s fierce disagreement? The value of TypeScript and its place in the Ember community. Fortunately, Chris and Chris have the same end goal: to encourage more developers to use Ember and contribute to Ember projects. But how do we keep Ember contributor-friendly while keeping contributions careful? One of them yearns for a happy medium and the other feels that balance is forever impossible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, runspired and Chris Manson battle it out, discussing TypeScript&#39;s place in the Ember community and balancing the volume of Ember contributors with the accuracy of developer edits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:49] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:55] - What whiskey and NFTs have in common. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:37] - Runspired explains the source of his smackdown with Chris Manson. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Where Chris Manson and runspired stand on TypeScript. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:29] - Chris Manson&#39;s side of the story.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:02] - How runspired and Chris Manson think we&#39;ll get more developers contributing to Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:09] - Where runspired and Chris Manson actually agree.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:18] - Where Chris Manson stands on TypeScript. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:56] - How to balance contributor-friendly with contributor careful. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:58] - The problem with Ember sponsorships and Ember advocates. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:02:53] - Some closing thoughts on today&#39;s smackdown, Peaky Blinders, and an NFT-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:19] - &#34;The more that we&#39;ve adopted TypeScript, the more I&#39;ve seen people capable of making a contribution without my assistance that had the right fix.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[43:20] - &#34;I see Ember Learn, the org, and all of the things that we maintain, as kind of a gateway drug to becoming an Ember CLI contributor, a framework contributor, an Ember Data contributor. It&#39;s like a training ground.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[44:58] - &#34;What we really need is a developer advocate for Ember. We need, as a community, to find some pool of funding, to hire somebody, to be 100% focusing on that pipeline that I&#39;m talking about: getting people in at the bottom, finding ways for them to get from the bottom to the middle grounds, identifying the projects, project managing people up that scale, and getting them to (runspired&#39;s) door when they are ready.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Work-Life Balance, React, and Why Accessibility is Everything with Melanie Sumner [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/work-life-balance-react-and-why-accessibility-is-everything-with-melanie-sumner/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jos. A. Magnus &amp;amp; Co. [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">210c56fc-9583-11ec-a0a3-576489eb4d0a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:10:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/cifpjqr5gh6wor2ezt7ppigp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Chris Thoburn (otherwise known as runspired) began prepping for his own Whiskey Web and Whatnot, he found himself driving along to Chris Manson's episode from a few weeks prior. Nodding along as Chris explained his point of view on all things Ember, runspired suddenly slammed on the brakes after hearing one pivotal sentence. </p>
<p>At the center of his break slam and today's fierce disagreement? The value of TypeScript and its place in the Ember community. Fortunately, Chris and Chris have the same end goal: to encourage more developers to use Ember and contribute to Ember projects. But how do we keep Ember contributor-friendly while keeping contributions careful? One of them yearns for a happy medium and the other feels that balance is forever impossible.</p>
<p>In this episode, runspired and Chris Manson battle it out, discussing TypeScript's place in the Ember community and balancing the volume of Ember contributors with the accuracy of developer edits.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[02:49] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[09:55] - What whiskey and NFTs have in common. </li>
<li>[11:37] - Runspired explains the source of his smackdown with Chris Manson. </li>
<li>[15:38] - Where Chris Manson and runspired stand on TypeScript. </li>
<li>[19:29] - Chris Manson's side of the story.</li>
<li>[20:02] - How runspired and Chris Manson think we'll get more developers contributing to Ember. </li>
<li>[29:09] - Where runspired and Chris Manson actually agree.</li>
<li>[37:18] - Where Chris Manson stands on TypeScript. </li>
<li>[40:56] - How to balance contributor-friendly with contributor careful. </li>
<li>[44:58] - The problem with Ember sponsorships and Ember advocates. </li>
<li>[01:02:53] - Some closing thoughts on today's smackdown, Peaky Blinders, and an NFT-themed whatnot. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[26:19] - "The more that we've adopted TypeScript, the more I've seen people capable of making a contribution without my assistance that had the right fix." ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</p>
<p>[43:20] - "I see Ember Learn, the org, and all of the things that we maintain, as kind of a gateway drug to becoming an Ember CLI contributor, a framework contributor, an Ember Data contributor. It's like a training ground." ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</p>
<p>[44:58] - "What we really need is a developer advocate for Ember. We need, as a community, to find some pool of funding, to hire somebody, to be 100% focusing on that pipeline that I'm talking about: getting people in at the bottom, finding ways for them to get from the bottom to the middle grounds, identifying the projects, project managing people up that scale, and getting them to (runspired's) door when they are ready." ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</li>
<li>runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</li>
<li>Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Work-Life Balance, React, and Why Accessibility is Everything with Melanie Sumner [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/work-life-balance-react-and-why-accessibility-is-everything-with-melanie-sumner/]</li>
<li>Jos. A. Magnus &amp; Co. [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Runspired vs. Chris Manson on Solving the Number One Open Source Maintainer Dilemma</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cifpjqr5gh6wor2ezt7ppigp/r4ci1icez2uyk3arho1cvwpu.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4738</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;As Chris Thoburn (otherwise known as runspired) began prepping for his own Whiskey Web and Whatnot, he found himself driving along to Chris Manson&#39;s episode from a few weeks prior. Nodding along as Chris explained his point of view on all things Ember, runspired suddenly slammed on the brakes after hearing one pivotal sentence. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the center of his break slam and today&#39;s fierce disagreement? The value of TypeScript and its place in the Ember community. Fortunately, Chris and Chris have the same end goal: to encourage more developers to use Ember and contribute to Ember projects. But how do we keep Ember contributor-friendly while keeping contributions careful? One of them yearns for a happy medium and the other feels that balance is forever impossible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, runspired and Chris Manson battle it out, discussing TypeScript&#39;s place in the Ember community and balancing the volume of Ember contributors with the accuracy of developer edits.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:49] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:55] - What whiskey and NFTs have in common. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:37] - Runspired explains the source of his smackdown with Chris Manson. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:38] - Where Chris Manson and runspired stand on TypeScript. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[19:29] - Chris Manson&#39;s side of the story.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:02] - How runspired and Chris Manson think we&#39;ll get more developers contributing to Ember. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:09] - Where runspired and Chris Manson actually agree.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:18] - Where Chris Manson stands on TypeScript. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:56] - How to balance contributor-friendly with contributor careful. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[44:58] - The problem with Ember sponsorships and Ember advocates. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:02:53] - Some closing thoughts on today&#39;s smackdown, Peaky Blinders, and an NFT-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:19] - &#34;The more that we&#39;ve adopted TypeScript, the more I&#39;ve seen people capable of making a contribution without my assistance that had the right fix.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[43:20] - &#34;I see Ember Learn, the org, and all of the things that we maintain, as kind of a gateway drug to becoming an Ember CLI contributor, a framework contributor, an Ember Data contributor. It&#39;s like a training ground.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[44:58] - &#34;What we really need is a developer advocate for Ember. We need, as a community, to find some pool of funding, to hire somebody, to be 100% focusing on that pipeline that I&#39;m talking about: getting people in at the bottom, finding ways for them to get from the bottom to the middle grounds, identifying the projects, project managing people up that scale, and getting them to (runspired&#39;s) door when they are ready.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chuck on Twitter [https://twitter.com/CharlesWthe3rd]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired) [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/discovering-ember-adopting-orbit-and-unlocking-optimization-with-chris-thoburn-runspired/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Work-Life Balance, React, and Why Accessibility is Everything with Melanie Sumner [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/work-life-balance-react-and-why-accessibility-is-everything-with-melanie-sumner/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jos. A. Magnus &amp;amp; Co. [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/cifpjqr5gh6wor2ezt7ppigp/q1ezimqfap1tqkqmlnh012kc/transcoded-01KECKE0Z1V290CA3XZ4974KWH-01KECKE0Z1V3VD1Z4CCMBJH70V_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Work-Life Balance, React, and Why Accessibility Is Everything with Melanie Sumner</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk with Melanie Sumner, web developer and member of the Ember Core Team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a graduation gift from her Uncle, Melanie was handed a computer and told, &#34;learn to write code,&#34; because the future is tech. So that&#39;s what she did. With a love of language and puzzles, writing code became her thrill and, after years in the Navy, her profession. Today, Melanie is active in the Ember community, serving on the Ember Core Team and advocating for veterans entering web development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Melanie talks with Robbie and Chuck about the value of empty days, intentional productivity, Ember&#39;s evolution, React, and tips for making websites accessible. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:27] - A quick introduction to Melanie and her role in the Ember community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:38] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:13] - Web dev &#34;would you rather&#34;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:36] - Why Melanie started learning to write code and her thoughts on work-life balance. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:02] - The philosophy Melanie lives by and why she tracks the domains she buys. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:25] - Robbie&#39;s tipping point with Ember and some shiny new toys. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:05] - Why Ember shouldn&#39;t try to be React and the importance of accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:29] - How to make a website more accessible. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:54] - Today&#39;s gaming-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:07] - How Melanie survived the pandemic and news on the next EmberConf. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:10] - What Melanie cares about outside of web development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:06] - &#34;It&#39;s my philosophy to at least Buy A Coffee for people who work on open source projects that I use. I think if we all did that, the world would be a better place.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:13] - &#34;I don&#39;t know why my brain has made this connection, but it has. I&#39;m good at learning foreign languages and that kind of translated into me believing I was good at writing code and learning new code languages. Because it&#39;s all about learning what are you trying to say and how you want to say it.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:11] - &#34;We develop this very unhealthy culture in web, in tech where it&#39;s like, &#39;oh I have to be rockstar ninja core person who can do all the commits on all the days.&#39; And it&#39;s like no, show me your empty days actually. I want to see where you took time off.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buy Me a Coffee [https://www.buymeacoffee.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [http://microsoft.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jos. A. Magnus &amp;amp; Co. Murray Hill Club [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Binny&#39;s Beverage Depot [https://www.binnys.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi Touch Screen [https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-touch-display/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML [https://yaml.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nokia [https://www.nokia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AngularJS [https://angularjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0bdcb808-8f7f-11ec-b835-ffdbbc63b1fc</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/l8fzbbmxrwo558cx4d7lmfi4.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk with Melanie Sumner, web developer and member of the Ember Core Team. </p>
<p>As a graduation gift from her Uncle, Melanie was handed a computer and told, "learn to write code," because the future is tech. So that's what she did. With a love of language and puzzles, writing code became her thrill and, after years in the Navy, her profession. Today, Melanie is active in the Ember community, serving on the Ember Core Team and advocating for veterans entering web development.</p>
<p>Melanie talks with Robbie and Chuck about the value of empty days, intentional productivity, Ember's evolution, React, and tips for making websites accessible. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:27] - A quick introduction to Melanie and her role in the Ember community. </li>
<li>[01:38] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[08:13] - Web dev "would you rather".</li>
<li>[12:36] - Why Melanie started learning to write code and her thoughts on work-life balance. </li>
<li>[20:02] - The philosophy Melanie lives by and why she tracks the domains she buys. </li>
<li>[24:25] - Robbie's tipping point with Ember and some shiny new toys. </li>
<li>[29:05] - Why Ember shouldn't try to be React and the importance of accessibility. </li>
<li>[32:29] - How to make a website more accessible. </li>
<li>[35:54] - Today's gaming-themed whatnot. </li>
<li>[43:07] - How Melanie survived the pandemic and news on the next EmberConf. </li>
<li>[48:10] - What Melanie cares about outside of web development. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[01:06] - "It's my philosophy to at least Buy A Coffee for people who work on open source projects that I use. I think if we all did that, the world would be a better place." ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] </p>
<p>[14:13] - "I don't know why my brain has made this connection, but it has. I'm good at learning foreign languages and that kind of translated into me believing I was good at writing code and learning new code languages. Because it's all about learning what are you trying to say and how you want to say it." ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] </p>
<p>[17:11] - "We develop this very unhealthy culture in web, in tech where it's like, 'oh I have to be rockstar ninja core person who can do all the commits on all the days.' And it's like no, show me your empty days actually. I want to see where you took time off." ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] </p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Melanie Sumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]</li>
<li>GitHub [https://github.com]</li>
<li>Buy Me a Coffee [https://www.buymeacoffee.com]</li>
<li>faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev]</li>
<li>Microsoft [http://microsoft.com]</li>
<li>Jos. A. Magnus &amp; Co. Murray Hill Club [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]</li>
<li>Binny's Beverage Depot [https://www.binnys.com] </li>
<li>Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]</li>
<li>Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]</li>
<li>Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]</li>
<li>Raspberry Pi Touch Screen [https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-touch-display/]</li>
<li>YAML [https://yaml.org]</li>
<li>Nokia [https://www.nokia.com]</li>
<li>AngularJS [https://angularjs.org]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Work-Life Balance, React, and Why Accessibility Is Everything with Melanie Sumner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/l8fzbbmxrwo558cx4d7lmfi4/hppqb66n2c5zjup3k00gpwvf.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3098</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk with Melanie Sumner, web developer and member of the Ember Core Team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a graduation gift from her Uncle, Melanie was handed a computer and told, &#34;learn to write code,&#34; because the future is tech. So that&#39;s what she did. With a love of language and puzzles, writing code became her thrill and, after years in the Navy, her profession. Today, Melanie is active in the Ember community, serving on the Ember Core Team and advocating for veterans entering web development.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Melanie talks with Robbie and Chuck about the value of empty days, intentional productivity, Ember&#39;s evolution, React, and tips for making websites accessible. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:27] - A quick introduction to Melanie and her role in the Ember community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:38] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:13] - Web dev &#34;would you rather&#34;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[12:36] - Why Melanie started learning to write code and her thoughts on work-life balance. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:02] - The philosophy Melanie lives by and why she tracks the domains she buys. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:25] - Robbie&#39;s tipping point with Ember and some shiny new toys. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:05] - Why Ember shouldn&#39;t try to be React and the importance of accessibility. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:29] - How to make a website more accessible. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:54] - Today&#39;s gaming-themed whatnot. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:07] - How Melanie survived the pandemic and news on the next EmberConf. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:10] - What Melanie cares about outside of web development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[01:06] - &#34;It&#39;s my philosophy to at least Buy A Coffee for people who work on open source projects that I use. I think if we all did that, the world would be a better place.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[14:13] - &#34;I don&#39;t know why my brain has made this connection, but it has. I&#39;m good at learning foreign languages and that kind of translated into me believing I was good at writing code and learning new code languages. Because it&#39;s all about learning what are you trying to say and how you want to say it.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[17:11] - &#34;We develop this very unhealthy culture in web, in tech where it&#39;s like, &#39;oh I have to be rockstar ninja core person who can do all the commits on all the days.&#39; And it&#39;s like no, show me your empty days actually. I want to see where you took time off.&#34; ~ @melaniersumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner] &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner [https://twitter.com/melaniersumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GitHub [https://github.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buy Me a Coffee [https://www.buymeacoffee.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;faker.js [https://fakerjs.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Microsoft [http://microsoft.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jos. A. Magnus &amp;amp; Co. Murray Hill Club [https://josephmagnus.com/spirits/murray-hill-club/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Binny&#39;s Beverage Depot [https://www.binnys.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Buffalo Trace Distillery [https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Sagamore Spirit [https://sagamorespirit.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Raspberry Pi Touch Screen [https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-touch-display/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;YAML [https://yaml.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nokia [https://www.nokia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AngularJS [https://angularjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/l8fzbbmxrwo558cx4d7lmfi4/yefajf87vai9xlfr058pgogw/transcoded-01KECKDVF145JW1Z601GBWWV07-01KECKDVF10EYQH5DYTXR0DK2N_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Astro, Dashboards, NFT Memberships, and a TV Roundup</title><description>&lt;p&gt;From Astro, Vite, and Snowpack, to VR, and some favorite TV shows, today&#39;s episode is the perfect opportunity to catch up on technical whatnots and a few exciting life updates from Chuck and Robbie. Plus, if you&#39;ve ever wondered what NFTs, co-working spaces, and whiskey all have in common, today&#39;s episode is for you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck dive into the frameworks they&#39;re using, the dashboards they&#39;re analyzing, what&#39;s new in the gaming universe, and the co-working space to check out if you happen to live near Middleburg, VA. And if you don&#39;t, here&#39;s how a virtual space can come to you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:09] - A non-traditional introduction.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:00] - What Robbie&#39;s working on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:41] - What it&#39;s like working in Astro.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:56] - What Chuck&#39;s working on. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:36] - Why Chuck is taking a break from VR. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:00] - What&#39;s new in games and TV. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:40] - When Robbie&#39;s getting a Tesla. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:53] - An update on Robbie&#39;s co-working space. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:26] - &#34;[Astro] is probably not quite as fast as if you&#39;d literally gone through and written everything in Vanilla HTML and CSS. But it&#39;s pretty dang close with conveniences.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:50] - &#34;Apollo Studio gives you some excellent metrics and traces into what&#39;s going on and where things are slow and even down to the resolvers for each individual key, things like that, and some interesting cache stuff. But, at the end of the day, you&#39;ve really bought into their way and their ecosystem.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Run Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey Holiday Batch [https://www.delmesaliquor.com/products/blue-run-holiday-rye-cask-strength-rye-whiskey] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Willett Distillery [https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brach&#39;s candy [https://www.brachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Edward Faulkner [https://twitter.com/eaf4]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cardstack [https://cardstack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack [https://www.snowpack.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SWC [https://swc.rs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;web.dev [https://web.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lighthouse  [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lighthouse/blipmdconlkpinefehnmjammfjpmpbjk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Fonts [https://fonts.google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [http://next.js]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;next/image [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-reference/next/image]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;nuxt-img [https://image.nuxtjs.org/components/nuxt-img/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://www.remix.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo [https://www.apollographql.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo Studio [https://www.apollographql.com/docs/studio/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Helios [https://github.com/spotify/helios]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">671b7ee4-884e-11ec-b1c8-0fc3d187008d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/omvoe38e020xnaj85cfnu19w.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Astro, Vite, and Snowpack, to VR, and some favorite TV shows, today's episode is the perfect opportunity to catch up on technical whatnots and a few exciting life updates from Chuck and Robbie. Plus, if you've ever wondered what NFTs, co-working spaces, and whiskey all have in common, today's episode is for you. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie and Chuck dive into the frameworks they're using, the dashboards they're analyzing, what's new in the gaming universe, and the co-working space to check out if you happen to live near Middleburg, VA. And if you don't, here's how a virtual space can come to you. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:09] - A non-traditional introduction.</li>
<li>[01:35] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[09:00] - What Robbie's working on.</li>
<li>[14:41] - What it's like working in Astro.</li>
<li>[18:56] - What Chuck's working on. </li>
<li>[24:36] - Why Chuck is taking a break from VR. </li>
<li>[36:00] - What's new in games and TV. </li>
<li>[47:40] - When Robbie's getting a Tesla. </li>
<li>[49:53] - An update on Robbie's co-working space. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[16:26] - "[Astro] is probably not quite as fast as if you'd literally gone through and written everything in Vanilla HTML and CSS. But it's pretty dang close with conveniences." ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]</p>
<p>[19:50] - "Apollo Studio gives you some excellent metrics and traces into what's going on and where things are slow and even down to the resolvers for each individual key, things like that, and some interesting cache stuff. But, at the end of the day, you've really bought into their way and their ecosystem." ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Blue Run Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey Holiday Batch [https://www.delmesaliquor.com/products/blue-run-holiday-rye-cask-strength-rye-whiskey] </li>
<li>Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]</li>
<li>Willett Distillery [https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com]</li>
<li>Seelbach's [https://seelbachs.com]</li>
<li>Brach's candy [https://www.brachs.com]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] </li>
<li>Edward Faulkner [https://twitter.com/eaf4]</li>
<li>Cardstack [https://cardstack.com]</li>
<li>Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]</li>
<li>Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]</li>
<li>Astro [https://astro.build]</li>
<li>Snowpack [https://www.snowpack.dev]</li>
<li>Vite [https://vitejs.dev] </li>
<li>SWC [https://swc.rs]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>web.dev [https://web.dev] </li>
<li>Lighthouse  [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lighthouse/blipmdconlkpinefehnmjammfjpmpbjk]</li>
<li>Google Fonts [https://fonts.google.com]</li>
<li>Next.js [http://next.js]</li>
<li>next/image [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-reference/next/image]</li>
<li>nuxt-img [https://image.nuxtjs.org/components/nuxt-img/]</li>
<li>Remix [https://www.remix.com]</li>
<li>RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]</li>
<li>GraphQL [https://graphql.org]</li>
<li>Apollo [https://www.apollographql.com]</li>
<li>Apollo Studio [https://www.apollographql.com/docs/studio/]</li>
<li>Helios [https://github.com/spotify/helios]</li>
<li>The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]</li>
<li>Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]</li>
<li>runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Astro, Dashboards, NFT Memberships, and a TV Roundup</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/omvoe38e020xnaj85cfnu19w/eobwwfavlgwc950ouray6qzq.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3441</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;From Astro, Vite, and Snowpack, to VR, and some favorite TV shows, today&#39;s episode is the perfect opportunity to catch up on technical whatnots and a few exciting life updates from Chuck and Robbie. Plus, if you&#39;ve ever wondered what NFTs, co-working spaces, and whiskey all have in common, today&#39;s episode is for you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie and Chuck dive into the frameworks they&#39;re using, the dashboards they&#39;re analyzing, what&#39;s new in the gaming universe, and the co-working space to check out if you happen to live near Middleburg, VA. And if you don&#39;t, here&#39;s how a virtual space can come to you. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:09] - A non-traditional introduction.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:35] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:00] - What Robbie&#39;s working on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:41] - What it&#39;s like working in Astro.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:56] - What Chuck&#39;s working on. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:36] - Why Chuck is taking a break from VR. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:00] - What&#39;s new in games and TV. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[47:40] - When Robbie&#39;s getting a Tesla. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:53] - An update on Robbie&#39;s co-working space. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[16:26] - &#34;[Astro] is probably not quite as fast as if you&#39;d literally gone through and written everything in Vanilla HTML and CSS. But it&#39;s pretty dang close with conveniences.&#34; ~ @rwwagner90 [https://mobile.twitter.com/rwwagner90]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:50] - &#34;Apollo Studio gives you some excellent metrics and traces into what&#39;s going on and where things are slow and even down to the resolvers for each individual key, things like that, and some interesting cache stuff. But, at the end of the day, you&#39;ve really bought into their way and their ecosystem.&#34; ~ Chuck Carpenter [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckcarpenter/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blue Run Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey Holiday Batch [https://www.delmesaliquor.com/products/blue-run-holiday-rye-cask-strength-rye-whiskey] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Heaven Hill Distillery [https://heavenhilldistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Willett Distillery [https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brach&#39;s candy [https://www.brachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Edward Faulkner [https://twitter.com/eaf4]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cardstack [https://cardstack.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Astro [https://astro.build]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Snowpack [https://www.snowpack.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vite [https://vitejs.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SWC [https://swc.rs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;web.dev [https://web.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lighthouse  [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lighthouse/blipmdconlkpinefehnmjammfjpmpbjk]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google Fonts [https://fonts.google.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [http://next.js]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;next/image [https://nextjs.org/docs/api-reference/next/image]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;nuxt-img [https://image.nuxtjs.org/components/nuxt-img/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://www.remix.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RedwoodJS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GraphQL [https://graphql.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo [https://www.apollographql.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apollo Studio [https://www.apollographql.com/docs/studio/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Helios [https://github.com/spotify/helios]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Guild [https://www.the-guild.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hive GraphQL [https://graphql-hive.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/omvoe38e020xnaj85cfnu19w/x2hulyv40xpixgpfoarkmj3b/transcoded-01KECKDY5S54Q991VK0RZK9SSX-01KECKDY5S83CBJANP9VF7EJDJ_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Right Way to NFT, Blockchain, and Making Your Mark in the Digital Marketplace with Juan Palomino</title><description>&lt;p&gt;In a world of invaluable yet intangible artwork and every developer fighting for a space on the blockchain, it&#39;s hard to sort out what&#39;s adding value to our brave new world and what&#39;s taking up space. Juan Palomino, founder of Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com], has spent the last year knee-deep in his own NFT experiment. Along the way, he&#39;s learned what to embrace and what to forget when it comes to making his mark in the digital economy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Juan started Full Speed Media as a way to provide live streaming services throughout the pandemic. While it began as a way to simply satisfy a growing demand, through his business, Juan began developing relationships with local organizations in Phoenix and realized the need for other web-based projects geared toward fundraising. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A true lover of building cool stuff and experimenting with the latest tech trends, Juan eventually developed an NFT drop in partnership with a local artist. Since launch day, his community has minted almost 100 tokens and raised just under $10,000 for the Valleywise Health Foundation [https://valleywisehealthfoundation.org], the largest provider of mental health services in Arizona. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Juan discuss the technicalities of building an NFT, where most developers miss the mark in blockchain, and the real beauty of a growing minted marketplace. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:13] - A quick introduction to Juan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:37] - Two truths and a lie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:25] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:19] - Chuck&#39;s two truths and a brief history of Philadelphia. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:54] - Juan&#39;s groundbreaking NFT fundraising project. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:17] - How tech trends like NFTs and smart contracts actually work. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:11] - How Juan algorithmically generates NFT images.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:20] - The right way to approach NFTs and why fees.wtf missed the mark. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:40] - What&#39;s the deal with DAOs? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[46:50] - Where the blockchain truly belongs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:06] - Why Chuck is back on Twitter. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:13] - The beauty of the NFT space. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[41:31] - &#34;Blockchain in itself is not this secret ingredient that now makes everything better. It has become this buzzword that people want to do a land grab for but realistically, this is just the building blocks of how we&#39;re going to build bigger, better, more decentralized, more trustless applications and systems.&#34; ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[52:47] - &#34;The NFT space, for all its quirks and mishappenings and lost gas fees, has really turned me onto the art world and has exposed me to a whole different way of creating stuff and connected me with a lot of people I might not have been connected with otherwise. If nothing else, it has been a really great experiment.&#34; ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juan on Twitter [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Si Se Puede Foundation [https://www.sisepuedefoundation.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smooth Ambler [https://smoothambler.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lost Lantern Smooth Ambler West Virginia Straight Bourbon Whiskey [https://seelbachs.com/products/lost-lantern-2021-single-cask-7-smooth-ambler-west-virginia-straight-bourbon-whiskey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coffee Zona [https://coffee-zona.business.site]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Geno&#39;s Steaks [https://www.instagram.com/genossteaks]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lin Manuel Miranda [https://www.linmanuel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Encanto [https://movies.disney.com/encanto]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Viva Muertos! [https://www.vivamuertos.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">fac24524-850b-11ec-996e-f76813fd57f9</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 16:11:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/mku6irtlyq4o2woak8l40d3c.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a world of invaluable yet intangible artwork and every developer fighting for a space on the blockchain, it's hard to sort out what's adding value to our brave new world and what's taking up space. Juan Palomino, founder of Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com], has spent the last year knee-deep in his own NFT experiment. Along the way, he's learned what to embrace and what to forget when it comes to making his mark in the digital economy. </p>
<p>Juan started Full Speed Media as a way to provide live streaming services throughout the pandemic. While it began as a way to simply satisfy a growing demand, through his business, Juan began developing relationships with local organizations in Phoenix and realized the need for other web-based projects geared toward fundraising. </p>
<p>A true lover of building cool stuff and experimenting with the latest tech trends, Juan eventually developed an NFT drop in partnership with a local artist. Since launch day, his community has minted almost 100 tokens and raised just under $10,000 for the Valleywise Health Foundation [https://valleywisehealthfoundation.org], the largest provider of mental health services in Arizona. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Juan discuss the technicalities of building an NFT, where most developers miss the mark in blockchain, and the real beauty of a growing minted marketplace. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:13] - A quick introduction to Juan.</li>
<li>[02:37] - Two truths and a lie. </li>
<li>[06:25] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[14:19] - Chuck's two truths and a brief history of Philadelphia. </li>
<li>[17:54] - Juan's groundbreaking NFT fundraising project. </li>
<li>[23:17] - How tech trends like NFTs and smart contracts actually work. </li>
<li>[27:11] - How Juan algorithmically generates NFT images.</li>
<li>[31:20] - The right way to approach NFTs and why fees.wtf missed the mark. </li>
<li>[45:40] - What's the deal with DAOs? </li>
<li>[46:50] - Where the blockchain truly belongs.</li>
<li>[49:06] - Why Chuck is back on Twitter. </li>
<li>[52:13] - The beauty of the NFT space. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[41:31] - "Blockchain in itself is not this secret ingredient that now makes everything better. It has become this buzzword that people want to do a land grab for but realistically, this is just the building blocks of how we're going to build bigger, better, more decentralized, more trustless applications and systems." ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]</p>
<p>[52:47] - "The NFT space, for all its quirks and mishappenings and lost gas fees, has really turned me onto the art world and has exposed me to a whole different way of creating stuff and connected me with a lot of people I might not have been connected with otherwise. If nothing else, it has been a really great experiment." ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Juan on Twitter [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]</li>
<li>Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com]</li>
<li>Si Se Puede Foundation [https://www.sisepuedefoundation.org]</li>
<li>Smooth Ambler [https://smoothambler.com]</li>
<li>Lost Lantern Smooth Ambler West Virginia Straight Bourbon Whiskey [https://seelbachs.com/products/lost-lantern-2021-single-cask-7-smooth-ambler-west-virginia-straight-bourbon-whiskey]</li>
<li>Seelbach's [https://seelbachs.com]</li>
<li>Coffee Zona [https://coffee-zona.business.site]</li>
<li>Geno's Steaks [https://www.instagram.com/genossteaks]</li>
<li>Lin Manuel Miranda [https://www.linmanuel.com]</li>
<li>Encanto [https://movies.disney.com/encanto]</li>
<li>Viva Muertos! [https://www.vivamuertos.com]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Right Way to NFT, Blockchain, and Making Your Mark in the Digital Marketplace with Juan Palomino</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mku6irtlyq4o2woak8l40d3c/jb0bjwnanxfue6mwiw0tsi8e.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3329</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In a world of invaluable yet intangible artwork and every developer fighting for a space on the blockchain, it&#39;s hard to sort out what&#39;s adding value to our brave new world and what&#39;s taking up space. Juan Palomino, founder of Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com], has spent the last year knee-deep in his own NFT experiment. Along the way, he&#39;s learned what to embrace and what to forget when it comes to making his mark in the digital economy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Juan started Full Speed Media as a way to provide live streaming services throughout the pandemic. While it began as a way to simply satisfy a growing demand, through his business, Juan began developing relationships with local organizations in Phoenix and realized the need for other web-based projects geared toward fundraising. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A true lover of building cool stuff and experimenting with the latest tech trends, Juan eventually developed an NFT drop in partnership with a local artist. Since launch day, his community has minted almost 100 tokens and raised just under $10,000 for the Valleywise Health Foundation [https://valleywisehealthfoundation.org], the largest provider of mental health services in Arizona. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Juan discuss the technicalities of building an NFT, where most developers miss the mark in blockchain, and the real beauty of a growing minted marketplace. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:13] - A quick introduction to Juan.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[02:37] - Two truths and a lie. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:25] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:19] - Chuck&#39;s two truths and a brief history of Philadelphia. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[17:54] - Juan&#39;s groundbreaking NFT fundraising project. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:17] - How tech trends like NFTs and smart contracts actually work. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:11] - How Juan algorithmically generates NFT images.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:20] - The right way to approach NFTs and why fees.wtf missed the mark. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[45:40] - What&#39;s the deal with DAOs? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[46:50] - Where the blockchain truly belongs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[49:06] - Why Chuck is back on Twitter. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[52:13] - The beauty of the NFT space. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[41:31] - &#34;Blockchain in itself is not this secret ingredient that now makes everything better. It has become this buzzword that people want to do a land grab for but realistically, this is just the building blocks of how we&#39;re going to build bigger, better, more decentralized, more trustless applications and systems.&#34; ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[52:47] - &#34;The NFT space, for all its quirks and mishappenings and lost gas fees, has really turned me onto the art world and has exposed me to a whole different way of creating stuff and connected me with a lot of people I might not have been connected with otherwise. If nothing else, it has been a really great experiment.&#34; ~ @JuanForTheMoney [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Juan on Twitter [https://twitter.com/juanforthemoney]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Full Speed Media [https://fullspeedav.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Si Se Puede Foundation [https://www.sisepuedefoundation.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Smooth Ambler [https://smoothambler.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lost Lantern Smooth Ambler West Virginia Straight Bourbon Whiskey [https://seelbachs.com/products/lost-lantern-2021-single-cask-7-smooth-ambler-west-virginia-straight-bourbon-whiskey]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Seelbach&#39;s [https://seelbachs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coffee Zona [https://coffee-zona.business.site]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Geno&#39;s Steaks [https://www.instagram.com/genossteaks]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lin Manuel Miranda [https://www.linmanuel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Encanto [https://movies.disney.com/encanto]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Viva Muertos! [https://www.vivamuertos.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/mku6irtlyq4o2woak8l40d3c/dyi4pxm86bdxzskv0ct24ncd/transcoded-01KECKE9EG4JC0BYEC4WQF0QYR-01KECKE9EGG9173JR36MM3C2QA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Runspired&#39;s journey with Ember began just like Chuck&#39;s, Robbie&#39;s, and many who&#39;ve come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:37] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:26] - How runspired&#39;s journey in the Ember community evolved. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:45] - What&#39;s missing from the developer community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:59] - What Ember Data cares about.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris&#39; dive into professional running. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:30] - &#34;I&#39;ve never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I&#39;ve had a complaint, it&#39;s evolved to satisfy that complaint with time.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:00] - &#34;So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn&#39;t set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:42] - &#34;Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don&#39;t know you have yet. But that&#39;s also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you&#39;ve got to evolve to if you end up with those problems.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberFest [https://emberfest.eu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Balcones Whiskey [https://balconesdistilling.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Chuck&#39;s Origin Story: Career Pivots and Learning to Love Ember [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/chucks-origin-story-career-pivots-and-learning-to-love-ember/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Robbie&#39;s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/robbies-origin-story-learning-to-code-learning-to-hire-and-taking-the-entrepreneurial-leap/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: RedwoodJS, Develo [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/redwoodjs-developer-experience-and-developing-for-scale-with-tom-preston-werner/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">4806af58-7d98-11ec-8510-c383e043ea82</guid><pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/jl0vcsk633q56pk8t4jxj0vt.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Runspired's journey with Ember began just like Chuck's, Robbie's, and many who've come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation. </p>
<p>The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript. </p>
<p>Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization.</p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:37] - A whiskey review.</li>
<li>[11:26] - How runspired's journey in the Ember community evolved. </li>
<li>[20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks. </li>
<li>[24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful. </li>
<li>[29:45] - What's missing from the developer community. </li>
<li>[36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage. </li>
<li>[41:59] - What Ember Data cares about.</li>
<li>[48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris' dive into professional running. </li>
<li>[55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[18:30] - "I've never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I've had a complaint, it's evolved to satisfy that complaint with time." ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</p>
<p>[23:00] - "So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn't set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success." ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</p>
<p>[24:42] - "Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don't know you have yet. But that's also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you've got to evolve to if you end up with those problems." ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>EmberFest [https://emberfest.eu]</li>
<li>Balcones Whiskey [https://balconesdistilling.com]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Chuck's Origin Story: Career Pivots and Learning to Love Ember [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/chucks-origin-story-career-pivots-and-learning-to-love-ember/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Robbie's Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/robbies-origin-story-learning-to-code-learning-to-hire-and-taking-the-entrepreneurial-leap/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: RedwoodJS, Develo [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/redwoodjs-developer-experience-and-developing-for-scale-with-tom-preston-werner/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jl0vcsk633q56pk8t4jxj0vt/u71gz1odwpgdo9iusjgz0gq7.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3537</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Runspired&#39;s journey with Ember began just like Chuck&#39;s, Robbie&#39;s, and many who&#39;ve come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:37] - A whiskey review.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[11:26] - How runspired&#39;s journey in the Ember community evolved. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:45] - What&#39;s missing from the developer community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:59] - What Ember Data cares about.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris&#39; dive into professional running. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[18:30] - &#34;I&#39;ve never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I&#39;ve had a complaint, it&#39;s evolved to satisfy that complaint with time.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[23:00] - &#34;So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn&#39;t set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[24:42] - &#34;Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don&#39;t know you have yet. But that&#39;s also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you&#39;ve got to evolve to if you end up with those problems.&#34; ~ runspired [https://www.instagram.com/runspired/]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EmberFest [https://emberfest.eu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Balcones Whiskey [https://balconesdistilling.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Chuck&#39;s Origin Story: Career Pivots and Learning to Love Ember [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/chucks-origin-story-career-pivots-and-learning-to-love-ember/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Robbie&#39;s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/robbies-origin-story-learning-to-code-learning-to-hire-and-taking-the-entrepreneurial-leap/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: RedwoodJS, Develo [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/redwoodjs-developer-experience-and-developing-for-scale-with-tom-preston-werner/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/jl0vcsk633q56pk8t4jxj0vt/yhwz5nlh7do4f6nv6hct2nwg/transcoded-01KECKE0YTM8173KES4FRDTYN4-01KECKE0YTQ0T0Q1S1N3565D2R_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Decentralized Gaming, IntelliJ, Twitch, and the Shortcomings of Modern VR with Rob Cary</title><description>&lt;p&gt;What do web development, Twitch, VR, and blockchain all have in common? More than you might think. After years as a game developer, Ship Shape&#39;s longest-tenured employee Rob Cary was bound to put those unlikely virtual dots together and today he&#39;s here to share a few original insights. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After meeting Robbie Wagner in an elementary school play as a couple of accountants, their lives continued to overlap. From a choice in college to a knack for web development, making sweet beats, and ultimately, their careers, an intro to Rob may sound identical to an intro to Robbie. But unlike Robbie Wagner, Rob Cary has years of VR experience under his belt. Not to mention, some interesting ideas about the future of our virtual metaverse. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Rob discuss the wonders of WebStorm and IntelliJ, what on earth decentralized gaming is, how VR has transformed the gaming world, and the mostly unknown link between Twitch and web development. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:28] - Introduction to Rob.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:27] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:57] - Rob, Robbie, or both? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:05] - Rob&#39;s technical background and the state of decentralized gaming.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:12] - A game of Stumped.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:50] - What Rob likes about WebStorm and IntelliJ.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:16] - A conversation about the VR universe, how it&#39;s transformed, and where we&#39;re headed.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:10] - Why NFTs are everywhere. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:20] - Rob&#39;s hobbies outside of gaming and websites. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:35] - &#34;VS Code is one of the few examples I&#39;ve seen of an IDE that&#39;s really universally been adopted really quickly.&#34; ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[34:50] - &#34;Some of the things you can do on VR, you could just never do in a traditional game. The technology has a ton of promise, there are just fundamental issues that still are being worked on that I think need to be fixed.&#34; ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rob Cary [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dojo [https://dojotoolkit.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vuori [https://vuoriclothing.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lululemon [https://shop.lululemon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Widow Jane Rye Mash, Oak &amp;amp; Applewood-Aged Whiskey [https://widowjane.com/whiskey/oak-and-apple-wood]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/nextjs-12-react-vs-svelte-and-the-future-of-frameworks-with-wes-bos/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech [https://vt.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StarCraft [https://starcraft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zoom [http://zoom.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Unity [https://unity.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo [https://www.halowaypoint.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax [https://www.syntax.fm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DoorDash [https://www.doordash.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber Eats [https://www.ubereats.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NativeScript [https://nativescript.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BlueJ [https://www.bluej.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IntelliJ IDEA [https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WebStorm [https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom [https://atom.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;yarn install [https://classic.yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/install/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">68cb0ad8-724c-11ec-91aa-fbb7f19655aa</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/bwiy5shdiklqz4zz7692bobp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do web development, Twitch, VR, and blockchain all have in common? More than you might think. After years as a game developer, Ship Shape's longest-tenured employee Rob Cary was bound to put those unlikely virtual dots together and today he's here to share a few original insights. </p>
<p>After meeting Robbie Wagner in an elementary school play as a couple of accountants, their lives continued to overlap. From a choice in college to a knack for web development, making sweet beats, and ultimately, their careers, an intro to Rob may sound identical to an intro to Robbie. But unlike Robbie Wagner, Rob Cary has years of VR experience under his belt. Not to mention, some interesting ideas about the future of our virtual metaverse. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Rob discuss the wonders of WebStorm and IntelliJ, what on earth decentralized gaming is, how VR has transformed the gaming world, and the mostly unknown link between Twitch and web development. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:28] - Introduction to Rob.</li>
<li>[01:27] - A whiskey review. </li>
<li>[06:57] - Rob, Robbie, or both? </li>
<li>[13:05] - Rob's technical background and the state of decentralized gaming.</li>
<li>[16:12] - A game of Stumped.</li>
<li>[24:50] - What Rob likes about WebStorm and IntelliJ.</li>
<li>[30:16] - A conversation about the VR universe, how it's transformed, and where we're headed.  </li>
<li>[39:10] - Why NFTs are everywhere. </li>
<li>[43:20] - Rob's hobbies outside of gaming and websites. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[26:35] - "VS Code is one of the few examples I've seen of an IDE that's really universally been adopted really quickly." ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]</p>
<p>[34:50] - "Some of the things you can do on VR, you could just never do in a traditional game. The technology has a ton of promise, there are just fundamental issues that still are being worked on that I think need to be fixed." ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Rob Cary [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Ember [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Dojo [https://dojotoolkit.org]</li>
<li>Vuori [https://vuoriclothing.com]</li>
<li>Lululemon [https://shop.lululemon.com]</li>
<li>Widow Jane Rye Mash, Oak &amp; Applewood-Aged Whiskey [https://widowjane.com/whiskey/oak-and-apple-wood]</li>
<li>Twitter [http://twitter.com]</li>
<li>Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/nextjs-12-react-vs-svelte-and-the-future-of-frameworks-with-wes-bos/]</li>
<li>Virginia Tech [https://vt.edu]</li>
<li>StarCraft [https://starcraft.com/en-us/]</li>
<li>Zoom [http://zoom.com]</li>
<li>Unity [https://unity.com]</li>
<li>Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]</li>
<li>Halo [https://www.halowaypoint.com]</li>
<li>Syntax [https://www.syntax.fm]</li>
<li>Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]</li>
<li>DoorDash [https://www.doordash.com]</li>
<li>Uber Eats [https://www.ubereats.com]</li>
<li>Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]</li>
<li>NativeScript [https://nativescript.org]</li>
<li>BlueJ [https://www.bluej.org]</li>
<li>JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]</li>
<li>IntelliJ IDEA [https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/]</li>
<li>WebStorm [https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/]</li>
<li>Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]</li>
<li>Atom [https://atom.io]</li>
<li>yarn install [https://classic.yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/install/]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Decentralized Gaming, IntelliJ, Twitch, and the Shortcomings of Modern VR with Rob Cary</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bwiy5shdiklqz4zz7692bobp/hm36nl8q3ust2vi50bm0ezsd.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3257</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What do web development, Twitch, VR, and blockchain all have in common? More than you might think. After years as a game developer, Ship Shape&#39;s longest-tenured employee Rob Cary was bound to put those unlikely virtual dots together and today he&#39;s here to share a few original insights. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After meeting Robbie Wagner in an elementary school play as a couple of accountants, their lives continued to overlap. From a choice in college to a knack for web development, making sweet beats, and ultimately, their careers, an intro to Rob may sound identical to an intro to Robbie. But unlike Robbie Wagner, Rob Cary has years of VR experience under his belt. Not to mention, some interesting ideas about the future of our virtual metaverse. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Rob discuss the wonders of WebStorm and IntelliJ, what on earth decentralized gaming is, how VR has transformed the gaming world, and the mostly unknown link between Twitch and web development. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:28] - Introduction to Rob.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:27] - A whiskey review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:57] - Rob, Robbie, or both? &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:05] - Rob&#39;s technical background and the state of decentralized gaming.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:12] - A game of Stumped.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:50] - What Rob likes about WebStorm and IntelliJ.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:16] - A conversation about the VR universe, how it&#39;s transformed, and where we&#39;re headed.  &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:10] - Why NFTs are everywhere. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:20] - Rob&#39;s hobbies outside of gaming and websites. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:35] - &#34;VS Code is one of the few examples I&#39;ve seen of an IDE that&#39;s really universally been adopted really quickly.&#34; ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[34:50] - &#34;Some of the things you can do on VR, you could just never do in a traditional game. The technology has a ton of promise, there are just fundamental issues that still are being worked on that I think need to be fixed.&#34; ~ @r0bc4ry [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rob Cary [https://twitter.com/r0bc4ry]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dojo [https://dojotoolkit.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vuori [https://vuoriclothing.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lululemon [https://shop.lululemon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Widow Jane Rye Mash, Oak &amp;amp; Applewood-Aged Whiskey [https://widowjane.com/whiskey/oak-and-apple-wood]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Twitter [http://twitter.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos [https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/nextjs-12-react-vs-svelte-and-the-future-of-frameworks-with-wes-bos/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virginia Tech [https://vt.edu]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;StarCraft [https://starcraft.com/en-us/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zoom [http://zoom.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Unity [https://unity.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Halo [https://www.halowaypoint.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax [https://www.syntax.fm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Web3 [https://web3js.readthedocs.io/en/v1.5.2/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;DoorDash [https://www.doordash.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Uber Eats [https://www.ubereats.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Async/await [https://javascript.info/async-await]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NativeScript [https://nativescript.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BlueJ [https://www.bluej.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JSON [https://www.json.org/json-en.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IntelliJ IDEA [https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;WebStorm [https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Visual Studio Code [https://code.visualstudio.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Atom [https://atom.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;yarn install [https://classic.yarnpkg.com/en/docs/cli/install/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/bwiy5shdiklqz4zz7692bobp/m6tdoqoedbis4oe161qcjceq/transcoded-01KECKDZ6WN42D2FA298HW0FTS-01KECKDZ6WY8AQM63PXGH2QZ5W_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Chuck&#39;s Origin Story: Career Pivots, and Learning to Love Ember</title><description>&lt;p&gt;After diving into Robbie’s backstory in episode 017, today we’re panning the camera to Chuck. If you’ve ever wondered how he ended up at Ship Shape and where Chuck first discovered the world of the web, today’s episode explores his digital origin story. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Like Robbie, Chuck’s foray into software development began in Photoshop. In fact, for a period after graduating college, Chuck considered going to photography school. Unfortunately (or fortunately, if you ask Robbie), shelling out cash for grad school seemed daunting and impractical. So he stumbled into a startup instead. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
After gigs at multiple startups, MLMs, a national network, and a non-profit abroad, a new baby sent Chuck searching for something with fewer hours and more flexibility. Spoiler alert: he ended up at Ship Shape. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss Chuck’s gradual love for Ember, the frameworks that shaped his career, the developers who impressed him, and Chuck’s ideas on the future of the web. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - A whiskey review. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:41] - Where it all began for Chuck. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:48] - Chuck’s foray into the digital space. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:19] - Where Chuck went post-grad. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:08] - A turning point in Chuck’s career. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:27] - Why Chuck headed to Europe.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:14] - Chuck’s career with National Geographic and the software that shaped him. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:33] - When Chuck met Ember.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:30] - Why Chuck left the startup world. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:56] - How Chuck found Ship Shape. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:22] - Where Chuck’s headed next. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:30] - How to send suggestions our way and a brief chat on NFTs. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:25] - “For me, and I think for a lot of people, jQuery was kind of the entryway into JavaScript programming.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:01] - “What was the next rung on the career ladder? I decided that instead of more middle management, getting my hands dirty and building a business sounded pretty great, or at least worth a try. I needed to check that box off.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:55] - “It feels like things are going in a direction, even if it’s not Next, where there’s more opinionation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Catoctin Creek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roundstone Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://seelbachs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seelbach Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modpizza.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MOD Pizza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GoDaddy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://vanilla-js.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe ColdFusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://homelessworldcup.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Homeless World Cup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://LinkedIn.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://slack.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberconf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.acquia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Acquia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Droopl&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Droopl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaf4.com/author/edward/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Edward Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cardstack.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cardstack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/smart-home-devices/b?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;node=9818047011&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Alexa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://v3.nuxtjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NuxtJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS CDK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kubernetes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/llamajs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;llamajs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gary Vaynerchuk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myspace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Myspace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Facebook&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.damienhirst.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damien Hirst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kentcdodds&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0f2fc7a0-6cd1-11ec-b296-675b00a4864e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/a4ivtk0s6wq0dvb5hncosr9r.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After diving into Robbie’s backstory in episode 017, today we’re panning the camera to Chuck. If you’ve ever wondered how he ended up at Ship Shape and where Chuck first discovered the world of the web, today’s episode explores his digital origin story. </p>
<p>
Like Robbie, Chuck’s foray into software development began in Photoshop. In fact, for a period after graduating college, Chuck considered going to photography school. Unfortunately (or fortunately, if you ask Robbie), shelling out cash for grad school seemed daunting and impractical. So he stumbled into a startup instead. </p>
<p>
After gigs at multiple startups, MLMs, a national network, and a non-profit abroad, a new baby sent Chuck searching for something with fewer hours and more flexibility. Spoiler alert: he ended up at Ship Shape. </p>
<p>
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss Chuck’s gradual love for Ember, the frameworks that shaped his career, the developers who impressed him, and Chuck’s ideas on the future of the web. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:27] - A whiskey review. 
</li>
 <li>[08:41] - Where it all began for Chuck. 
</li>
  <li>[11:48] - Chuck’s foray into the digital space. 
</li>
  <li>[15:19] - Where Chuck went post-grad. 
</li>
  <li>[19:08] - A turning point in Chuck’s career. 
</li>
  <li>[21:27] - Why Chuck headed to Europe.
</li>
  <li>[23:14] - Chuck’s career with National Geographic and the software that shaped him. 
</li>
  <li>[29:33] - When Chuck met Ember.
</li>
  <li>[33:30] - Why Chuck left the startup world. 
</li>
  <li>[37:56] - How Chuck found Ship Shape. 
</li>
  <li>[46:22] - Where Chuck’s headed next. 
</li>
  <li>[48:30] - How to send suggestions our way and a brief chat on NFTs. 
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[20:25] - “For me, and I think for a lot of people, jQuery was kind of the entryway into JavaScript programming.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[39:01] - “What was the next rung on the career ladder? I decided that instead of more middle management, getting my hands dirty and building a business sounded pretty great, or at least worth a try. I needed to check that box off.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>
[41:55] - “It feels like things are going in a direction, even if it’s not Next, where there’s more opinionation.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://catoctincreekdistilling.com" target="_blank">Catoctin Creek</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone" target="_blank">Roundstone Rye</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://seelbachs.com" target="_blank">Seelbach Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://modpizza.com" target="_blank">MOD Pizza</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://www.godaddy.com" target="_blank">GoDaddy</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://wordpress.com" target="_blank">WordPress</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://vanilla-js.com" target="_blank">Vanilla JS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html" target="_blank">Adobe ColdFusion</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://homelessworldcup.org" target="_blank">Homeless World Cup</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com" target="_blank">National Geographic</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://LinkedIn.com" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://angular.io" target="_blank">Angular</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://backbonejs.org" target="_blank">Backbone</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://slack.com" target="_blank">Slack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberconf.com" target="_blank">EmberConf</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.acquia.com" target="_blank">Acquia</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://github.com/Droopl" target="_blank">Droopl</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://eaf4.com/author/edward/" target="_blank">Edward Faulkner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://cardstack.com" target="_blank">Cardstack</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/smart-home-devices/b?ie=UTF8&amp;node=9818047011" target="_blank">Amazon Alexa</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">Next.js</a> </li>
  <li><a href="http://v3.nuxtjs.org" target="_blank">NuxtJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://graphql.org" target="_blank">GraphQL</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/" target="_blank">AWS CDK</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://kubernetes.io" target="_blank">Kubernetes</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://astro.build" target="_blank">Astro</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/llamajs" target="_blank">llamajs</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com" target="_blank">Gary Vaynerchuk</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://myspace.com" target="_blank">Myspace</a></li>
  <li>Facebook</li>
  <li><a href="https://www.damienhirst.com" target="_blank">Damien Hirst</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/kentcdodds" target="_blank">Kent C. Dodds</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants</strong></p>
<p>
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Chuck&#39;s Origin Story: Career Pivots, and Learning to Love Ember</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/a4ivtk0s6wq0dvb5hncosr9r/lnsrfcmna7fenkhz06dtsoll.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3439</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;After diving into Robbie’s backstory in episode 017, today we’re panning the camera to Chuck. If you’ve ever wondered how he ended up at Ship Shape and where Chuck first discovered the world of the web, today’s episode explores his digital origin story. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Like Robbie, Chuck’s foray into software development began in Photoshop. In fact, for a period after graduating college, Chuck considered going to photography school. Unfortunately (or fortunately, if you ask Robbie), shelling out cash for grad school seemed daunting and impractical. So he stumbled into a startup instead. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
After gigs at multiple startups, MLMs, a national network, and a non-profit abroad, a new baby sent Chuck searching for something with fewer hours and more flexibility. Spoiler alert: he ended up at Ship Shape. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck discuss Chuck’s gradual love for Ember, the frameworks that shaped his career, the developers who impressed him, and Chuck’s ideas on the future of the web. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:27] - A whiskey review. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[08:41] - Where it all began for Chuck. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[11:48] - Chuck’s foray into the digital space. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[15:19] - Where Chuck went post-grad. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[19:08] - A turning point in Chuck’s career. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:27] - Why Chuck headed to Europe.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[23:14] - Chuck’s career with National Geographic and the software that shaped him. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[29:33] - When Chuck met Ember.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[33:30] - Why Chuck left the startup world. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:56] - How Chuck found Ship Shape. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[46:22] - Where Chuck’s headed next. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[48:30] - How to send suggestions our way and a brief chat on NFTs. 
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[20:25] - “For me, and I think for a lot of people, jQuery was kind of the entryway into JavaScript programming.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[39:01] - “What was the next rung on the career ladder? I decided that instead of more middle management, getting my hands dirty and building a business sounded pretty great, or at least worth a try. I needed to check that box off.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[41:55] - “It feels like things are going in a direction, even if it’s not Next, where there’s more opinionation.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Catoctin Creek&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Roundstone Rye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://seelbachs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Seelbach Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://modpizza.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MOD Pizza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.godaddy.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GoDaddy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://wordpress.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;WordPress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://vanilla-js.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Vanilla JS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe ColdFusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://homelessworldcup.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Homeless World Cup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.nationalgeographic.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;National Geographic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://LinkedIn.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://backbonejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Backbone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://slack.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Slack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberconf.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;EmberConf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.acquia.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Acquia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://github.com/Droopl&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Droopl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://eaf4.com/author/edward/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Edward Faulkner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://cardstack.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Cardstack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.amazon.com/smart-home-devices/b?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;node=9818047011&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Amazon Alexa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://v3.nuxtjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;NuxtJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://graphql.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GraphQL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;AWS CDK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://kubernetes.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kubernetes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://astro.build&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Astro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.npmjs.com/package/llamajs&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;llamajs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Gary Vaynerchuk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myspace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Myspace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Facebook&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.damienhirst.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Damien Hirst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/kentcdodds&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Kent C. Dodds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/a4ivtk0s6wq0dvb5hncosr9r/ubav6bw35vnrvryfmfl0eou0/transcoded-01KECKE0P0GA35P9FHD6BSTK1B-01KECKE0P0KX8H2SZ99GDN2H3C_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Robbie&#39;s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap</title><description>&lt;p&gt;If you’ve ever wondered where Ship Shape got its shape and how Robbie became Ember’s number one fan, this episode is for you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie and Chuck revisit the early chapters of Robbie’s career, including the gigs he loved and the corporate structures he hated. They talk about lessons learned, taking the entrepreneurial leap, and what’s on the horizon. While Robbie’s career has hardly been a linear path, the most exciting and fulfilling journeys rarely are. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:44] - Whiskey review and a brief overview of Pinhook. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:23] - Robbie’s introduction to the digital world.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:15] - College and his bridge to JavaScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:06] - The first startup Robbie worked at.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:30] - The start of Robbie’s post-grad gigs. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:20] - A proud whiteboard-ing moment. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:23] - What Robbie learned at Red Hat. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:28] - Where Robbie fell in love with Ember. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:56] - The next step in Robbie’s Ember career. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:55] - Where Robbie had the stereotypical startup experience. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:22] - Robbie’s return to Ember. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:25] - The start of Ship Shape and the value of networking. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:52] - Robbie’s thoughts on React.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:39] - “I think all of computer science boils down to understanding the Big O notation of the thing you’re doing. That’s it. If you know what’s most efficient, you can look up how to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:14] - “It comes back to my approach to hiring anyone. You hire good people who want to learn things and will do well, and they’ll do well at any technology.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[45:39] - “Honestly, there were a lot of times, and you’ve been around for some of them, where I’ve been like, ‘alright, let’s just stop and go back and get real jobs because we don’t have enough money and we’ll just stop doing this.’ But it always works out. And we continue to grow and you just have to trust that it’s going to work out.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pinhookbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pinhookbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook Tiz Rye Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mgpingredients.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MGP of Indiana&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/whiskeys/the-boss-hog/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Boss Hogg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinhookbourbon.ar&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;gl=US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook AR&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/nolinovak&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Noli Novak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sourceware.org/gdb/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myspace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Myspace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vtf.org/vt-knowledgeworks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech KnowledgeWorks&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://prototypejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prototype JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mailpilot.app&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mail Pilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kickstarter &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://listserve.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ListServe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redhat.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Hat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Amazon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sugarpirate_&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lauren Tan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/quickstart/create-a-repo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Create a repo on GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getfedora.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fedora&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;.Net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Geico&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.virtana.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virtana (formerly Metricly)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coffeescript.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CoffeeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;JIRA&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.novetta.com/enterprise-solutions/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Berico Technologies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firefox&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leafletjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Leaflet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.esri.com/en-us/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Esri&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hubspot.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HubSpot &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tether.to&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tether&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://addepar.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Addepar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pzuraq.com/author/pzuraq/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Garrett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pzuraq.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;pzuraq&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/kamiki-whisky-emberglimmer-updates-and-whatnot-w-chris-garrett-pzuraq/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Kamiki Whisky, Ember/Glimmer updates and whatnot w/ Chris Garrett (pzuraq)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://glimmerjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Glimmer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Slack&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshapecode.github.io/ember-shepherd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember Shepherd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bungie.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Destiny &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jibe.google.com/jibe-platform/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jibe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.embergroup.co.uk/case_study/rsa-training/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RSA - Ember Group&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/teams/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember Learning Team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Manson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://orbitjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Orbit.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://expel.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Expel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://kit.svelte.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SvelteKit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedwoodJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b5a1a930-6819-11ec-8bb2-db13f7d999fa</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/tnpxz4fzdpcec7217dd8kbqw.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’ve ever wondered where Ship Shape got its shape and how Robbie became Ember’s number one fan, this episode is for you.</p>
<p>
Robbie and Chuck revisit the early chapters of Robbie’s career, including the gigs he loved and the corporate structures he hated. They talk about lessons learned, taking the entrepreneurial leap, and what’s on the horizon. While Robbie’s career has hardly been a linear path, the most exciting and fulfilling journeys rarely are. 
</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
 <li>[00:44] - Whiskey review and a brief overview of Pinhook. 
</li>
 <li>[06:23] - Robbie’s introduction to the digital world.
</li>
  <li>[13:15] - College and his bridge to JavaScript.
</li>
  <li>[16:06] - The first startup Robbie worked at.
</li>
  <li>[18:30] - The start of Robbie’s post-grad gigs. 
</li>
  <li>[21:20] - A proud whiteboard-ing moment. 
</li>
  <li>[24:23] - What Robbie learned at Red Hat. 
</li>
  <li>[30:28] - Where Robbie fell in love with Ember. 
</li>
  <li>[34:56] - The next step in Robbie’s Ember career. 
</li>
  <li>[36:55] - Where Robbie had the stereotypical startup experience. 
</li>
  <li>[37:22] - Robbie’s return to Ember. 
</li>
  <li>[45:25] - The start of Ship Shape and the value of networking. 
</li>
  <li>[49:52] - Robbie’s thoughts on React.
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Quotes</strong></p>
<p>
[23:39] - “I think all of computer science boils down to understanding the Big O notation of the thing you’re doing. That’s it. If you know what’s most efficient, you can look up how to do it.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">@RobbieTheWagner</a></p>
<p>
[25:14] - “It comes back to my approach to hiring anyone. You hire good people who want to learn things and will do well, and they’ll do well at any technology.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">@RobbieTheWagner</a></p>
<p>
[45:39] - “Honestly, there were a lot of times, and you’ve been around for some of them, where I’ve been like, ‘alright, let’s just stop and go back and get real jobs because we don’t have enough money and we’ll just stop doing this.’ But it always works out. And we continue to grow and you just have to trust that it’s going to work out.” ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">@RobbieTheWagner</a></p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.pinhookbourbon.com" target="_blank">Pinhook Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pinhookbourbon.com" target="_blank">Pinhook Tiz Rye Time</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mgpingredients.com" target="_blank">MGP of Indiana</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/whiskeys/the-boss-hog/" target="_blank">The Boss Hogg</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinhookbourbon.ar&amp;hl=en_US&amp;gl=US" target="_blank">Pinhook AR</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nolinovak" target="_blank">Noli Novak</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.sourceware.org/gdb/" target="_blank">GDB</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Adobe Photoshop</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://myspace.com" target="_blank">Myspace</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://angular.io" target="_blank">Angular</a> </li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.vtf.org/vt-knowledgeworks" target="_blank">Virginia Tech KnowledgeWorks</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://www.php.net" target="_blank">PHP</a></li>
  <li><a href="http://prototypejs.org" target="_blank">Prototype JavaScript</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jquery.com" target="_blank">jQuery</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.mailpilot.app" target="_blank">Mail Pilot</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com" target="_blank">Ember</a></li>
  <li>Kickstarter </li>
  <li><a href="https://listserve.com" target="_blank">ListServe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.redhat.com" target="_blank">Red Hat</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li>
  <li>Amazon</li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/sugarpirate_" target="_blank">Lauren Tan</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/quickstart/create-a-repo" target="_blank">Create a repo on GitHub</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.linux.org" target="_blank">Linux</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://getfedora.org" target="_blank">Fedora</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/" target="_blank">.Net</a></li>
  <li>Geico</li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.virtana.com" target="_blank">Virtana (formerly Metricly)</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://coffeescript.org" target="_blank">CoffeeScript</a></li>
  <li>JIRA</li>
  <li><a href="https://www.novetta.com/enterprise-solutions/" target="_blank">Berico Technologies</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx" target="_blank">Internet Explorer</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.google.com/chrome/" target="_blank">Google Chrome</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/" target="_blank">Firefox</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://leafletjs.com" target="_blank">Leaflet</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.esri.com/en-us/home" target="_blank">Esri</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shepherdjs.dev" target="_blank">Shepherd.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.hubspot.com" target="_blank">HubSpot </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://tether.to" target="_blank">Tether</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://addepar.com" target="_blank">Addepar</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.pzuraq.com/author/pzuraq/" target="_blank">Chris Garrett</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://www.pzuraq.com" target="_blank">pzuraq</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/kamiki-whisky-emberglimmer-updates-and-whatnot-w-chris-garrett-pzuraq/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Kamiki Whisky, Ember/Glimmer updates and whatnot w/ Chris Garrett (pzuraq)</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://glimmerjs.com" target="_blank">Glimmer</a></li>
  <li>Slack</li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshapecode.github.io/ember-shepherd/" target="_blank">Ember Shepherd</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/" target="_blank">Diablo</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.bungie.net" target="_blank">Destiny </a></li>
  <li><a href="https://jibe.google.com/jibe-platform/" target="_blank">Jibe</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.embergroup.co.uk/case_study/rsa-training/" target="_blank">RSA - Ember Group</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://emberjs.com/teams/" target="_blank">Ember Learning Team</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/real_ate" target="_blank">Chris Manson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://orbitjs.com" target="_blank">Orbit.js</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://expel.io" target="_blank">Expel</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://reactjs.org" target="_blank">React</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://nextjs.org" target="_blank">Next.js</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://svelte.dev" target="_blank">Svelte</a></li>
  <li>
<a href="https://kit.svelte.dev" target="_blank">SvelteKit</a> </li>
  <li><a href="https://redwoodjs.com" target="_blank">RedwoodJS</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://preactjs.com" target="_blank">Preact</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with our hosts</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner" target="_blank">Robbie Wagner</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd" target="_blank">Chuck Carpenter</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">Ship Shape</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Subscribe and stay in touch</strong></p>
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  <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/" target="_blank">Whiskey Web and Whatnot</a></li>
</ul>
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This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at <a href="https://shipshape.io/" target="_blank">shipshape.io</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Robbie&#39;s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tnpxz4fzdpcec7217dd8kbqw/ki1so07mxokr7zilifnkshu5.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3227</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;If you’ve ever wondered where Ship Shape got its shape and how Robbie became Ember’s number one fan, this episode is for you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Robbie and Chuck revisit the early chapters of Robbie’s career, including the gigs he loved and the corporate structures he hated. They talk about lessons learned, taking the entrepreneurial leap, and what’s on the horizon. While Robbie’s career has hardly been a linear path, the most exciting and fulfilling journeys rarely are. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[00:44] - Whiskey review and a brief overview of Pinhook. 
&lt;/li&gt;
 &lt;li&gt;[06:23] - Robbie’s introduction to the digital world.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[13:15] - College and his bridge to JavaScript.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[16:06] - The first startup Robbie worked at.
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[18:30] - The start of Robbie’s post-grad gigs. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[21:20] - A proud whiteboard-ing moment. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[24:23] - What Robbie learned at Red Hat. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[30:28] - Where Robbie fell in love with Ember. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[34:56] - The next step in Robbie’s Ember career. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[36:55] - Where Robbie had the stereotypical startup experience. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[37:22] - Robbie’s return to Ember. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[45:25] - The start of Ship Shape and the value of networking. 
&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;[49:52] - Robbie’s thoughts on React.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quotes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[23:39] - “I think all of computer science boils down to understanding the Big O notation of the thing you’re doing. That’s it. If you know what’s most efficient, you can look up how to do it.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[25:14] - “It comes back to my approach to hiring anyone. You hire good people who want to learn things and will do well, and they’ll do well at any technology.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
[45:39] - “Honestly, there were a lot of times, and you’ve been around for some of them, where I’ve been like, ‘alright, let’s just stop and go back and get real jobs because we don’t have enough money and we’ll just stop doing this.’ But it always works out. And we continue to grow and you just have to trust that it’s going to work out.” ~ &lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;@RobbieTheWagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pinhookbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pinhookbourbon.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook Tiz Rye Time&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mgpingredients.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;MGP of Indiana&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whistlepigwhiskey.com/whiskeys/the-boss-hog/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;The Boss Hogg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinhookbourbon.ar&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;gl=US&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Pinhook AR&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.instagram.com/nolinovak&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Noli Novak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.sourceware.org/gdb/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;GDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Adobe Photoshop&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://myspace.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Myspace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://angular.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Angular&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.vtf.org/vt-knowledgeworks&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virginia Tech KnowledgeWorks&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.php.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;PHP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;http://prototypejs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Prototype JavaScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jquery.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;jQuery&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mailpilot.app&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Mail Pilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Kickstarter &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://listserve.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;ListServe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.redhat.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Red Hat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Amazon&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/sugarpirate_&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Lauren Tan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/quickstart/create-a-repo&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Create a repo on GitHub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.linux.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Linux&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://getfedora.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Fedora&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;.Net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Geico&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.virtana.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Virtana (formerly Metricly)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://coffeescript.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;CoffeeScript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;JIRA&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.novetta.com/enterprise-solutions/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Berico Technologies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer.aspx&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Internet Explorer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.google.com/chrome/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Firefox&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://leafletjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Leaflet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.esri.com/en-us/home&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Esri&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shepherdjs.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Shepherd.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.hubspot.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;HubSpot &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://tether.to&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Tether&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://addepar.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Addepar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pzuraq.com/author/pzuraq/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Garrett&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.pzuraq.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;pzuraq&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/kamiki-whisky-emberglimmer-updates-and-whatnot-w-chris-garrett-pzuraq/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Kamiki Whisky, Ember/Glimmer updates and whatnot w/ Chris Garrett (pzuraq)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://glimmerjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Glimmer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;Slack&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshapecode.github.io/ember-shepherd/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember Shepherd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://us.diablo3.com/en-us/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Diablo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.bungie.net&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Destiny &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://jibe.google.com/jibe-platform/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Jibe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.embergroup.co.uk/case_study/rsa-training/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RSA - Ember Group&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://emberjs.com/teams/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ember Learning Team&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/real_ate&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chris Manson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://www.whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/ember-vs-react-jamstack-and-holes-in-the-hiring-process-with-chris-manson/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://orbitjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Orbit.js&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://expel.io&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Expel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://reactjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;React&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://nextjs.org&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Next.js&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://svelte.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href=&#34;https://kit.svelte.dev&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;SvelteKit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://redwoodjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;RedwoodJS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://preactjs.com&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Preact&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with our hosts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagner&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Robbie Wagner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Chuck Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Ship Shape&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Subscribe and stay in touch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL3doaXNrZXktd2ViLWFuZC13aGF0bm90&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Google Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://whiskeywebandwhatnot.fm/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;Whiskey Web and Whatnot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at &lt;a href=&#34;https://shipshape.io/&#34; target=&#34;_blank&#34;&gt;shipshape.io&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/tnpxz4fzdpcec7217dd8kbqw/t02q8b4ymgzwceelh8g2byj7/transcoded-01KECKDX8QG5X1D4WNA9TH84CF-01KECKDX8Q7KHH7GT87YBT20EA_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>The Beauty of Remix, Falling for Tailwind, and Why NFTs Are a Scam with Kent C. Dodds</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Kent Dodds spends much of his professional life helping emerging developers learn. Earlier this year, as he began refreshing a stack of educational resources, Kent realized that simply switching to Remix eliminated most of the problems he was teaching his students to avoid or solve. Not long after he fell in love with the framework, Kent landed a job at Remix. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now the Director of Developer Experience, Dodds educates and troubleshoots. From eliminating loading and error states, easy adoption, and the mutations API, Dodds&#39; passion for Remix is abundantly obvious. He credits the success of Remix to its premium user experience and believes wholeheartedly that (almost) everything is simpler without JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Kent discuss the standalone features of Remix, a new stack on the Remix block, avoiding JavaScript, and why Kent can&#39;t code without Tailwind. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:51] - An eggnog review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:20] - Kent&#39;s journey to Remix. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:13] - What makes Remix unique.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:13] - Remix&#39;s true niche. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:51] - Remix vs. Astro vs. Qwik.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:21] - What you can&#39;t do with Remix. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:14] - Why working around JavaScript is the way to go.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:15] - More ways that Remix improves the user experience. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:44] - The beauty of Tailwind. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:56] - Remix&#39;s mutations API. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:51] - Kent and Tesla. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:25] - What Kent likes outside of coding and clean energy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:51] - Why NFTs are a scam. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:57] - &#34;Right now [Remix] is all server-rendered. And we do that because we feel like that provides the best user experience. It objectively provides the best user experience. It&#39;s way better to just see your stuff than to see spinners while you&#39;re waiting for your stuff. So if you can just make it so fast that you don&#39;t need spinners, then that&#39;s a better user experience.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:40] - &#34;I haven&#39;t yet found a use-case for building on the web that Remix isn&#39;t really well-suited for. It doesn&#39;t have a bunch of abstractions useful for someone who&#39;s going to build a game, but neither does any other framework like Remix. It sure has a lot of useful things for you if you want to build an excellent user experience on the web.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:30] - &#34;I feel like with Remix, we&#39;ve found another way to make things faster without having to make all these trade-offs on different architectures with having to completely change the framework that you&#39;re using.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent&#39;s website [https://kentcdodds.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent&#39;s &#39;Transparency&#39; page [https://kentcdodds.com/transparency]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gatsby [https://www.gatsbyjs.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Damien Hirst  [https://www.damienhirst.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cloudflare Workers [https://workers.cloudflare.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fly.io [https://fly.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;esbuild [https://esbuild.github.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">c91b05ea-62e4-11ec-9c5d-87f50414e15d</guid><pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/igef1sglr8evo4e64qksu2qo.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent Dodds spends much of his professional life helping emerging developers learn. Earlier this year, as he began refreshing a stack of educational resources, Kent realized that simply switching to Remix eliminated most of the problems he was teaching his students to avoid or solve. Not long after he fell in love with the framework, Kent landed a job at Remix. </p>
<p>Now the Director of Developer Experience, Dodds educates and troubleshoots. From eliminating loading and error states, easy adoption, and the mutations API, Dodds' passion for Remix is abundantly obvious. He credits the success of Remix to its premium user experience and believes wholeheartedly that (almost) everything is simpler without JavaScript. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Kent discuss the standalone features of Remix, a new stack on the Remix block, avoiding JavaScript, and why Kent can't code without Tailwind. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[01:51] - An eggnog review. </li>
<li>[06:20] - Kent's journey to Remix. </li>
<li>[09:13] - What makes Remix unique.</li>
<li>[13:13] - Remix's true niche. </li>
<li>[16:51] - Remix vs. Astro vs. Qwik.</li>
<li>[21:21] - What you can't do with Remix. </li>
<li>[22:14] - Why working around JavaScript is the way to go.</li>
<li>[26:15] - More ways that Remix improves the user experience. </li>
<li>[27:44] - The beauty of Tailwind. </li>
<li>[36:56] - Remix's mutations API. </li>
<li>[41:51] - Kent and Tesla. </li>
<li>[50:25] - What Kent likes outside of coding and clean energy.</li>
<li>[53:51] - Why NFTs are a scam. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[09:57] - "Right now [Remix] is all server-rendered. And we do that because we feel like that provides the best user experience. It objectively provides the best user experience. It's way better to just see your stuff than to see spinners while you're waiting for your stuff. So if you can just make it so fast that you don't need spinners, then that's a better user experience." ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]</p>
<p>[15:40] - "I haven't yet found a use-case for building on the web that Remix isn't really well-suited for. It doesn't have a bunch of abstractions useful for someone who's going to build a game, but neither does any other framework like Remix. It sure has a lot of useful things for you if you want to build an excellent user experience on the web." ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]</p>
<p>[22:30] - "I feel like with Remix, we've found another way to make things faster without having to make all these trade-offs on different architectures with having to completely change the framework that you're using." ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]</li>
<li>Kent's website [https://kentcdodds.com]</li>
<li>Kent's 'Transparency' page [https://kentcdodds.com/transparency]</li>
<li>Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com]</li>
<li>Remix [https://remix.run]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]</li>
<li>Gatsby [https://www.gatsbyjs.com] </li>
<li>Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]</li>
<li>Netlify [https://www.netlify.com]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Damien Hirst  [https://www.damienhirst.com]</li>
<li>Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com] </li>
<li>Cloudflare Workers [https://workers.cloudflare.com]</li>
<li>Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]</li>
<li>Fly.io [https://fly.io]</li>
<li>esbuild [https://esbuild.github.io]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Beauty of Remix, Falling for Tailwind, and Why NFTs Are a Scam with Kent C. Dodds</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/igef1sglr8evo4e64qksu2qo/bpjfi0jsyzemkga4u7c0d1ue.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3601</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Kent Dodds spends much of his professional life helping emerging developers learn. Earlier this year, as he began refreshing a stack of educational resources, Kent realized that simply switching to Remix eliminated most of the problems he was teaching his students to avoid or solve. Not long after he fell in love with the framework, Kent landed a job at Remix. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now the Director of Developer Experience, Dodds educates and troubleshoots. From eliminating loading and error states, easy adoption, and the mutations API, Dodds&#39; passion for Remix is abundantly obvious. He credits the success of Remix to its premium user experience and believes wholeheartedly that (almost) everything is simpler without JavaScript. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Kent discuss the standalone features of Remix, a new stack on the Remix block, avoiding JavaScript, and why Kent can&#39;t code without Tailwind. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:51] - An eggnog review. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:20] - Kent&#39;s journey to Remix. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:13] - What makes Remix unique.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:13] - Remix&#39;s true niche. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:51] - Remix vs. Astro vs. Qwik.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:21] - What you can&#39;t do with Remix. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:14] - Why working around JavaScript is the way to go.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:15] - More ways that Remix improves the user experience. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[27:44] - The beauty of Tailwind. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:56] - Remix&#39;s mutations API. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:51] - Kent and Tesla. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:25] - What Kent likes outside of coding and clean energy.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[53:51] - Why NFTs are a scam. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[09:57] - &#34;Right now [Remix] is all server-rendered. And we do that because we feel like that provides the best user experience. It objectively provides the best user experience. It&#39;s way better to just see your stuff than to see spinners while you&#39;re waiting for your stuff. So if you can just make it so fast that you don&#39;t need spinners, then that&#39;s a better user experience.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[15:40] - &#34;I haven&#39;t yet found a use-case for building on the web that Remix isn&#39;t really well-suited for. It doesn&#39;t have a bunch of abstractions useful for someone who&#39;s going to build a game, but neither does any other framework like Remix. It sure has a lot of useful things for you if you want to build an excellent user experience on the web.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:30] - &#34;I feel like with Remix, we&#39;ve found another way to make things faster without having to make all these trade-offs on different architectures with having to completely change the framework that you&#39;re using.&#34; ~ @kentcdodds [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent C. Dodds  [https://twitter.com/kentcdodds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent&#39;s website [https://kentcdodds.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Kent&#39;s &#39;Transparency&#39; page [https://kentcdodds.com/transparency]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ryan Florence [https://ryanflorence.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Remix [https://remix.run]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Gatsby [https://www.gatsbyjs.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Netlify [https://www.netlify.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Damien Hirst  [https://www.damienhirst.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Blockchain [https://www.blockchain.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cloudflare Workers [https://workers.cloudflare.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Amazon Web Services (AWS) [https://aws.amazon.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Fly.io [https://fly.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;esbuild [https://esbuild.github.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/igef1sglr8evo4e64qksu2qo/bwa4gxejf52pzinl62z8fzur/transcoded-01KECKDY1P5ZFHY993XJCPQDV8-01KECKDY1P4SBREY0VDA3X2D2X_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Between constantly changing frameworks, updates, and languages, web dev life is anything but stagnant. Shiny object syndrome is a real thing, and it&#39;s easy to feel like there&#39;s too much to keep up with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wes Bos has his own point of view on the shifting landscape. Wes has spent years as a developer and has created a catalog of courses to help other developers improve their skills. Despite having his favorites, Wes argues there&#39;s a place for everything in the melting pot that is modern web development. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Wes discuss the rise of specialized frameworks, the future of frameworks like TypeScript, and Wes&#39; views on technology outside the workplace. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:27] – Who is Wes Bos?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:40] – Wes or Robbie or Both?   &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[05:42] – Whiskey review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:46] – The benefits of Next.js 12&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:03] – React vs. Svelte &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:20] – Wes&#39; thoughts on TypeScript &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:26] – Commiserating over IE 11&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:52] – What Wes does in his free time &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:16] – Wes&#39; vintage road bikes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:54] - Wes&#39; tech-free BBQ saga&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:59] - Wes&#39; thoughts on tech podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:08] - &#34;I don&#39;t think that Next.js is the SDK of the web. The whole point of the web is that it&#39;s open and it&#39;s just the standard language that you can build whatever you want on top of it. But that said, I&#39;m probably the biggest Next.js fanboy out there.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:24] - &#34;Next.js is making things really really simple for us. They&#39;re sort of taking a lot of the hard parts of React and doing away with them and making this really nice framework for building websites.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[20:19] - &#34;That&#39;s really important with these tools that it does the code splitting and all the performance stuff for you. Because the average web developer is not gonna spend any time trying to implement these things themselves. They don&#39;t have enough time, they&#39;ve got deadlines to hit, or they just don&#39;t know how. So the tools doing it for you really is the way forward.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes&#39;s Website [http://wesbos.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax Podcast  [https://syntax.fm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John Deere [https://www.deere.com/en/index.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LCBO [https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1792 Small Batch Bourbon [https://1792bourbon.com/our-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glencairn Whiskey Glass  [https://www.totalwine.com/accessories-more/accessories/glassware/spirits-glasses/glencairn-whisky-glasses-4pk/p/111127920?glia=true&amp;amp;s=1106&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BCALI%2BENG%2BSPART::google::&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAnaeNBhCUARIsABEee8UJejxE6NcLgMFoYR0O21iYJLJr4tqk08DRJIL7QUV0vWLxmiVGTnkaAtNcEALw_wcB&amp;amp;gclsrc=aw.ds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Property Brothers [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/property-brothers]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Income Property [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/income-property]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Island of Bryan [https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/island-of-bryan/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spectrum [https://www.spectrum.net]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquia  [https://www.acquia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax 405: Hasty Treat - Next.js 12 [https://syntax.fm/show/405/hasty-treat-next-js-12]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rich Harris [https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SvelteKit [https://kit.svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">678c1b62-5c44-11ec-ae7f-777fb4e86199</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/yfmqmaj6sl7ffl9efzpmm1s2.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between constantly changing frameworks, updates, and languages, web dev life is anything but stagnant. Shiny object syndrome is a real thing, and it's easy to feel like there's too much to keep up with.</p>
<p>Wes Bos has his own point of view on the shifting landscape. Wes has spent years as a developer and has created a catalog of courses to help other developers improve their skills. Despite having his favorites, Wes argues there's a place for everything in the melting pot that is modern web development. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Wes discuss the rise of specialized frameworks, the future of frameworks like TypeScript, and Wes' views on technology outside the workplace. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:27] – Who is Wes Bos?</li>
<li>[01:40] – Wes or Robbie or Both?   </li>
<li>[05:42] – Whiskey review</li>
<li>[18:46] – The benefits of Next.js 12</li>
<li>[21:03] – React vs. Svelte </li>
<li>[26:20] – Wes' thoughts on TypeScript </li>
<li>[30:26] – Commiserating over IE 11</li>
<li>[33:52] – What Wes does in his free time </li>
<li>[39:16] – Wes' vintage road bikes</li>
<li>[40:54] - Wes' tech-free BBQ saga</li>
<li>[50:59] - Wes' thoughts on tech podcasts</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[19:08] - "I don't think that Next.js is the SDK of the web. The whole point of the web is that it's open and it's just the standard language that you can build whatever you want on top of it. But that said, I'm probably the biggest Next.js fanboy out there." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]</p>
<p>[19:24] - "Next.js is making things really really simple for us. They're sort of taking a lot of the hard parts of React and doing away with them and making this really nice framework for building websites." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]</p>
<p>[20:19] - "That's really important with these tools that it does the code splitting and all the performance stuff for you. Because the average web developer is not gonna spend any time trying to implement these things themselves. They don't have enough time, they've got deadlines to hit, or they just don't know how. So the tools doing it for you really is the way forward." ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Wes's Website [http://wesbos.com]</li>
<li>Syntax Podcast  [https://syntax.fm]</li>
<li>JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]</li>
<li>John Deere [https://www.deere.com/en/index.html]</li>
<li>LCBO [https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo]</li>
<li>1792 Small Batch Bourbon [https://1792bourbon.com/our-bourbon]</li>
<li>Glencairn Whiskey Glass  [https://www.totalwine.com/accessories-more/accessories/glassware/spirits-glasses/glencairn-whisky-glasses-4pk/p/111127920?glia=true&amp;s=1106&amp;&amp;pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BCALI%2BENG%2BSPART::google::&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAnaeNBhCUARIsABEee8UJejxE6NcLgMFoYR0O21iYJLJr4tqk08DRJIL7QUV0vWLxmiVGTnkaAtNcEALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds]</li>
<li>Property Brothers [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/property-brothers]</li>
<li>Income Property [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/income-property]</li>
<li>Island of Bryan [https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/island-of-bryan/]</li>
<li>Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]</li>
<li>Spectrum [https://www.spectrum.net]</li>
<li>Acquia  [https://www.acquia.com]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>Syntax 405: Hasty Treat - Next.js 12 [https://syntax.fm/show/405/hasty-treat-next-js-12]</li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Rich Harris [https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris]</li>
<li>Vercel [https://vercel.com]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev] </li>
<li>SvelteKit [https://kit.svelte.dev]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Next.js 12, React vs. Svelte, and the Future of Frameworks with Wes Bos</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yfmqmaj6sl7ffl9efzpmm1s2/ck7hrkyzhl4ck2gacjteziv3.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3268</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Between constantly changing frameworks, updates, and languages, web dev life is anything but stagnant. Shiny object syndrome is a real thing, and it&#39;s easy to feel like there&#39;s too much to keep up with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wes Bos has his own point of view on the shifting landscape. Wes has spent years as a developer and has created a catalog of courses to help other developers improve their skills. Despite having his favorites, Wes argues there&#39;s a place for everything in the melting pot that is modern web development. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Wes discuss the rise of specialized frameworks, the future of frameworks like TypeScript, and Wes&#39; views on technology outside the workplace. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:27] – Who is Wes Bos?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:40] – Wes or Robbie or Both?   &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[05:42] – Whiskey review&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[18:46] – The benefits of Next.js 12&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[21:03] – React vs. Svelte &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[26:20] – Wes&#39; thoughts on TypeScript &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:26] – Commiserating over IE 11&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:52] – What Wes does in his free time &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[39:16] – Wes&#39; vintage road bikes&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:54] - Wes&#39; tech-free BBQ saga&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[50:59] - Wes&#39; thoughts on tech podcasts&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:08] - &#34;I don&#39;t think that Next.js is the SDK of the web. The whole point of the web is that it&#39;s open and it&#39;s just the standard language that you can build whatever you want on top of it. But that said, I&#39;m probably the biggest Next.js fanboy out there.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:24] - &#34;Next.js is making things really really simple for us. They&#39;re sort of taking a lot of the hard parts of React and doing away with them and making this really nice framework for building websites.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[20:19] - &#34;That&#39;s really important with these tools that it does the code splitting and all the performance stuff for you. Because the average web developer is not gonna spend any time trying to implement these things themselves. They don&#39;t have enough time, they&#39;ve got deadlines to hit, or they just don&#39;t know how. So the tools doing it for you really is the way forward.&#34; ~ @wesbos [https://twitter.com/wesbos]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Wes&#39;s Website [http://wesbos.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax Podcast  [https://syntax.fm]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;JavaScript [https://www.javascript.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John Deere [https://www.deere.com/en/index.html]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LCBO [https://www.lcbo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lcbo]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;1792 Small Batch Bourbon [https://1792bourbon.com/our-bourbon]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glencairn Whiskey Glass  [https://www.totalwine.com/accessories-more/accessories/glassware/spirits-glasses/glencairn-whisky-glasses-4pk/p/111127920?glia=true&amp;amp;s=1106&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pid=cpc:Core+Catalog+-+Shopping%2BUS%2BCALI%2BENG%2BSPART::google::&amp;amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAnaeNBhCUARIsABEee8UJejxE6NcLgMFoYR0O21iYJLJr4tqk08DRJIL7QUV0vWLxmiVGTnkaAtNcEALw_wcB&amp;amp;gclsrc=aw.ds]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Property Brothers [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/property-brothers]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Income Property [https://www.hgtv.com/shows/income-property]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Island of Bryan [https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/island-of-bryan/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starlink [https://www.starlink.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spectrum [https://www.spectrum.net]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Acquia  [https://www.acquia.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Syntax 405: Hasty Treat - Next.js 12 [https://syntax.fm/show/405/hasty-treat-next-js-12]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Rich Harris [https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vercel [https://vercel.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SvelteKit [https://kit.svelte.dev]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/yfmqmaj6sl7ffl9efzpmm1s2/fpbvrxvje3fcseodby1bh82b/transcoded-01KECKDYK85P1WDF03HM1HSN5K-01KECKDYK8PMCNN1T9XSSG76Q6_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson</title><description>&lt;p&gt;They say if it&#39;s not broken, don&#39;t fix it. But if it is broken...keep iterating? While not everyone may agree on how to solve the technical headaches that come with one language or another, developer and Empress Creator Chris Manson has a few ideas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As more apps emerge, more problems inevitably appear. Chris has several non-negotiable best practices for keeping it simple and helping the developers who follow in his digital footsteps. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also a member of Ember&#39;s core team, Chris has been working with the framework since December of 2011. After beginning his startup with Angular, Chris threw in the towel and pivoted to its simpler and more intuitive counterpart. Nevertheless, Ember is far from flawless and, as with most things, could always improve for the users who need it most.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Chris discuss the fatal flaws of several old and emerging frameworks, the breakthrough shifts in the Ember community, why comparing Ember to React isn&#39;t always a fair match-up, and holes in the developer hiring process. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Whiskey review and a history of Glendalough. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:14] - How Chris was introduced to Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:10] - Chris&#39;s thoughts on Husky.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:41] - What Chris is working on now.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:55] - Why Chris has a vendetta against ember-cli-addon-docs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:34] - What&#39;s changing in the Ember community.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:28] - The complexities of hiring developers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[64:50] - The future of frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[73:04] - Chris&#39;s problem with TypeScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[77:18] - Chris&#39;s hobbies outside of developing.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:42] - &#34;This is one of the things that I don&#39;t like about repos or projects where you get to make 1,000 decisions because new people who don&#39;t know the decisions you&#39;ve made, don&#39;t know the structure of your app, don&#39;t know your repo, go into your repo and go, &#39;this is too complicated&#39;, bounce, and don&#39;t contribute, and that&#39;s not ok for me.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:49] - &#34;The amount of times that we get people who are actual juniors bouncing against something that you&#39;ve built and then you realize, &#39;oh actually, I did build that in a kind of complex way, I shouldn&#39;t have,&#39; and then you internalize that, and then the next time it comes across you go, &#39;I could do this fancy and save 10 lines of code, or I can be verbose and simple.&#39; Always pick verbose and simple.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glendalough Whiskey [https://us.glendaloughdistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Essential Scratch &amp;amp; Sniff Guide to Becoming a Whiskey Know-It-All: Know Your Booze Before You Choose [https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Scratch-Sniff-Becoming-Whiskey/dp/0544520602]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some Deprecations seem to side-step the deprecation workflow [https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/issues/19753]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alex Matchneer [https://twitter.com/amatchneer]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Conf [https://emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Husky [https://www.npmjs.com/package/husky]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Learning Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-cli-addon-docs [https://github.com/ember-learn/ember-cli-addon-docs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;simplabs [https://simplabs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner [https://github.com/MelSumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Empress [https://www.npmjs.com/package/empress] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a8eff0b2-587d-11ec-9c99-337b0776d549</guid><pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/p7n61k16f2rnoccclu6sr25q.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say if it's not broken, don't fix it. But if it is broken...keep iterating? While not everyone may agree on how to solve the technical headaches that come with one language or another, developer and Empress Creator Chris Manson has a few ideas.</p>
<p>As more apps emerge, more problems inevitably appear. Chris has several non-negotiable best practices for keeping it simple and helping the developers who follow in his digital footsteps. </p>
<p>Also a member of Ember's core team, Chris has been working with the framework since December of 2011. After beginning his startup with Angular, Chris threw in the towel and pivoted to its simpler and more intuitive counterpart. Nevertheless, Ember is far from flawless and, as with most things, could always improve for the users who need it most.</p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Chris discuss the fatal flaws of several old and emerging frameworks, the breakthrough shifts in the Ember community, why comparing Ember to React isn't always a fair match-up, and holes in the developer hiring process. </p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[00:32] - Whiskey review and a history of Glendalough. </li>
<li>[14:14] - How Chris was introduced to Ember.</li>
<li>[25:10] - Chris's thoughts on Husky.</li>
<li>[29:41] - What Chris is working on now.</li>
<li>[32:55] - Why Chris has a vendetta against ember-cli-addon-docs.</li>
<li>[37:34] - What's changing in the Ember community.</li>
<li>[54:28] - The complexities of hiring developers.</li>
<li>[64:50] - The future of frameworks.</li>
<li>[73:04] - Chris's problem with TypeScript.</li>
<li>[77:18] - Chris's hobbies outside of developing.</li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[26:42] - "This is one of the things that I don't like about repos or projects where you get to make 1,000 decisions because new people who don't know the decisions you've made, don't know the structure of your app, don't know your repo, go into your repo and go, 'this is too complicated', bounce, and don't contribute, and that's not ok for me." ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</p>
<p>[28:49] - "The amount of times that we get people who are actual juniors bouncing against something that you've built and then you realize, 'oh actually, I did build that in a kind of complex way, I shouldn't have,' and then you internalize that, and then the next time it comes across you go, 'I could do this fancy and save 10 lines of code, or I can be verbose and simple.' Always pick verbose and simple." ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Glendalough Whiskey [https://us.glendaloughdistillery.com]</li>
<li>Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]</li>
<li>The Essential Scratch &amp; Sniff Guide to Becoming a Whiskey Know-It-All: Know Your Booze Before You Choose [https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Scratch-Sniff-Becoming-Whiskey/dp/0544520602]</li>
<li>Angular [https://angular.io] </li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Some Deprecations seem to side-step the deprecation workflow [https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/issues/19753]</li>
<li>Alex Matchneer [https://twitter.com/amatchneer]</li>
<li>Ember Conf [https://emberconf.com]</li>
<li>Husky [https://www.npmjs.com/package/husky]</li>
<li>Ember Learning Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]</li>
<li>ember-cli-addon-docs [https://github.com/ember-learn/ember-cli-addon-docs]</li>
<li>simplabs [https://simplabs.com]</li>
<li>Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]</li>
<li>Melanie Sumner [https://github.com/MelSumner]</li>
<li>Empress [https://www.npmjs.com/package/empress] </li>
<li>Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/p7n61k16f2rnoccclu6sr25q/rpgehnfuufoixv1m0qsxrm0r.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>5442</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;They say if it&#39;s not broken, don&#39;t fix it. But if it is broken...keep iterating? While not everyone may agree on how to solve the technical headaches that come with one language or another, developer and Empress Creator Chris Manson has a few ideas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As more apps emerge, more problems inevitably appear. Chris has several non-negotiable best practices for keeping it simple and helping the developers who follow in his digital footsteps. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also a member of Ember&#39;s core team, Chris has been working with the framework since December of 2011. After beginning his startup with Angular, Chris threw in the towel and pivoted to its simpler and more intuitive counterpart. Nevertheless, Ember is far from flawless and, as with most things, could always improve for the users who need it most.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Chris discuss the fatal flaws of several old and emerging frameworks, the breakthrough shifts in the Ember community, why comparing Ember to React isn&#39;t always a fair match-up, and holes in the developer hiring process. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:32] - Whiskey review and a history of Glendalough. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:14] - How Chris was introduced to Ember.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:10] - Chris&#39;s thoughts on Husky.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:41] - What Chris is working on now.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[32:55] - Why Chris has a vendetta against ember-cli-addon-docs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[37:34] - What&#39;s changing in the Ember community.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[54:28] - The complexities of hiring developers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[64:50] - The future of frameworks.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[73:04] - Chris&#39;s problem with TypeScript.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[77:18] - Chris&#39;s hobbies outside of developing.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[26:42] - &#34;This is one of the things that I don&#39;t like about repos or projects where you get to make 1,000 decisions because new people who don&#39;t know the decisions you&#39;ve made, don&#39;t know the structure of your app, don&#39;t know your repo, go into your repo and go, &#39;this is too complicated&#39;, bounce, and don&#39;t contribute, and that&#39;s not ok for me.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[28:49] - &#34;The amount of times that we get people who are actual juniors bouncing against something that you&#39;ve built and then you realize, &#39;oh actually, I did build that in a kind of complex way, I shouldn&#39;t have,&#39; and then you internalize that, and then the next time it comes across you go, &#39;I could do this fancy and save 10 lines of code, or I can be verbose and simple.&#39; Always pick verbose and simple.&#34; ~ Chris Manson [https://twitter.com/real_ate]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Glendalough Whiskey [https://us.glendaloughdistillery.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jamstack [https://jamstack.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Essential Scratch &amp;amp; Sniff Guide to Becoming a Whiskey Know-It-All: Know Your Booze Before You Choose [https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Scratch-Sniff-Becoming-Whiskey/dp/0544520602]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Angular [https://angular.io] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some Deprecations seem to side-step the deprecation workflow [https://github.com/emberjs/ember.js/issues/19753]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alex Matchneer [https://twitter.com/amatchneer]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Conf [https://emberconf.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Husky [https://www.npmjs.com/package/husky]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember Learning Core Team [https://emberjs.com/teams/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ember-cli-addon-docs [https://github.com/ember-learn/ember-cli-addon-docs]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;simplabs [https://simplabs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jen Weber [https://twitter.com/jwwweber]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Melanie Sumner [https://github.com/MelSumner]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Empress [https://www.npmjs.com/package/empress] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Embroider [https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/audio/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/p7n61k16f2rnoccclu6sr25q/vj6xe6os6gdwsqr9x3abw06r/transcoded-01KECKEJ73TXN6JNDJ8VX2F86P-01KECKEJ73EAHJ24H6Z1RVQ4ZX_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript></item><item><title>RedwoodJS, Developer Experience, and Developing for Scale with Tom Preston-Werner</title><description>&lt;p&gt;Every developer straddles the fine line between creating a unique space and reinventing the wheel. Tom Preston-Werner has lived between those two lines for much of his career, most recently while developing an app framework for startups, RedwoodJS. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tom has always pushed himself to think outside the box rather than follow competitors. This aversion to groupthink kickstarted the creation of Redwood. It also helped Tom with the second-hardest part of app development: choosing a name. Tired of the physics names flooding the React world, Tom turned to nature for his framework. Not just a staple of the Bay Area, Redwoods start as tiny acorns and grow into enormous trees – a fitting analogy for an app designed to grow alongside expanding ventures. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Tom discuss the other ways Tom&#39;s outsider thought-process contributes to his creativity, the importance of helping users through the upgrade process, and his tried and true philosophy as a software developer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:46] - The origins of RedwoodJS. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:02] - Tom&#39;s approach to the upgrade process. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:26] - The dangers of reinventing the wheel.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:25] - What developers should stop focusing on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:55] - The relationship between apps and scale. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:14] - Tom&#39;s philosophy as a developer. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:18] - How RedwoodJS got its name. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[51:35] - Tom&#39;s creative outlet outside of software development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:24] - &#34;Stay a bit naive of how everyone else does it just so that your solutions really are as novel as they can be. I think the risk of being boring and repetitive is way higher if you&#39;re spending a lot of time with the competitive things.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:01] - &#34;That&#39;s one thing that we&#39;re not gonna do. We&#39;re not gonna stop innovating, we&#39;re not gonna stop trying new things, bringing in better things that we&#39;ve found. We can&#39;t. We may as well give up now if that&#39;s the case.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[38:10] - &#34;Most people who are building stuff, their primary concern is not eeking every last ounce of render speed out of their app, it&#39;s getting something built quickly that the users are going to take advantage of. And so that&#39;s been the bulk of our focus so far. That&#39;s really where the bar is.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lagavulin Scotch 8 [https://www.malts.com/en-us/products/single-malt-whisky/lagavulin-8-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nelson&#39;s Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Penn &amp;amp; Teller: Bullshit! [https://www.sho.com/penn-and-teller-bullshit]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mythbusters [https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laphroaig Scotch [https://www.laphroaig.com/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Octomore Whisky  [https://www.bruichladdich.com/octomore-super-heavily-peated-whisky-range/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Podcast Episode 117: Tom Preston-Werner on RedwoodJS [https://spec.fm/podcasts/reactpodcast/6_mirYS8]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meteor  [https://www.meteor.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails  [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma [https://www.prisma.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Storybook [https://storybook.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b3139620-52f1-11ec-8b21-3fdf22f336a8</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/fqpu7ottdhrjfmopb5turrqq.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every developer straddles the fine line between creating a unique space and reinventing the wheel. Tom Preston-Werner has lived between those two lines for much of his career, most recently while developing an app framework for startups, RedwoodJS. </p>
<p>Tom has always pushed himself to think outside the box rather than follow competitors. This aversion to groupthink kickstarted the creation of Redwood. It also helped Tom with the second-hardest part of app development: choosing a name. Tired of the physics names flooding the React world, Tom turned to nature for his framework. Not just a staple of the Bay Area, Redwoods start as tiny acorns and grow into enormous trees – a fitting analogy for an app designed to grow alongside expanding ventures. </p>
<p>In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Tom discuss the other ways Tom's outsider thought-process contributes to his creativity, the importance of helping users through the upgrade process, and his tried and true philosophy as a software developer.</p>
<p>Key Takeaways</p>
<ul>
<li>[16:46] - The origins of RedwoodJS. </li>
<li>[22:02] - Tom's approach to the upgrade process. </li>
<li>[24:26] - The dangers of reinventing the wheel.</li>
<li>[29:25] - What developers should stop focusing on.</li>
<li>[30:55] - The relationship between apps and scale. </li>
<li>[36:14] - Tom's philosophy as a developer. </li>
<li>[41:18] - How RedwoodJS got its name. </li>
<li>[51:35] - Tom's creative outlet outside of software development. </li>
</ul>
<p>Quotes</p>
<p>[19:24] - "Stay a bit naive of how everyone else does it just so that your solutions really are as novel as they can be. I think the risk of being boring and repetitive is way higher if you're spending a lot of time with the competitive things." ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]</p>
<p>[22:01] - "That's one thing that we're not gonna do. We're not gonna stop innovating, we're not gonna stop trying new things, bringing in better things that we've found. We can't. We may as well give up now if that's the case." ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]</p>
<p>[38:10] - "Most people who are building stuff, their primary concern is not eeking every last ounce of render speed out of their app, it's getting something built quickly that the users are going to take advantage of. And so that's been the bulk of our focus so far. That's really where the bar is." ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]</p>
<p>Links</p>
<ul>
<li>Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]</li>
<li>Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]</li>
<li>Lagavulin Scotch 8 [https://www.malts.com/en-us/products/single-malt-whisky/lagavulin-8-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/]</li>
<li>Nelson's Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] </li>
<li>Penn &amp; Teller: Bullshit! [https://www.sho.com/penn-and-teller-bullshit]</li>
<li>Mythbusters [https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/] </li>
<li>Laphroaig Scotch [https://www.laphroaig.com/en/]</li>
<li>Octomore Whisky  [https://www.bruichladdich.com/octomore-super-heavily-peated-whisky-range/]</li>
<li>Next.js [https://nextjs.org]</li>
<li>React Podcast Episode 117: Tom Preston-Werner on RedwoodJS [https://spec.fm/podcasts/reactpodcast/6_mirYS8]</li>
<li>Meteor  [https://www.meteor.com]</li>
<li>Ruby on Rails  [https://rubyonrails.org]</li>
<li>Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]</li>
<li>Svelte [https://svelte.dev] </li>
<li>React [https://reactjs.org]</li>
<li>Prisma [https://www.prisma.io]</li>
<li>Jest [https://jestjs.io]</li>
<li>Storybook [https://storybook.js.org]</li>
</ul>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>RedwoodJS, Developer Experience, and Developing for Scale with Tom Preston-Werner</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/episode-imports/images/w7bqgc792i30fd43a32uawx0/fqpu7ottdhrjfmopb5turrqq/c0x8za76fcf3ez26jfqno4ev.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3600</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Every developer straddles the fine line between creating a unique space and reinventing the wheel. Tom Preston-Werner has lived between those two lines for much of his career, most recently while developing an app framework for startups, RedwoodJS. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tom has always pushed himself to think outside the box rather than follow competitors. This aversion to groupthink kickstarted the creation of Redwood. It also helped Tom with the second-hardest part of app development: choosing a name. Tired of the physics names flooding the React world, Tom turned to nature for his framework. Not just a staple of the Bay Area, Redwoods start as tiny acorns and grow into enormous trees – a fitting analogy for an app designed to grow alongside expanding ventures. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and Tom discuss the other ways Tom&#39;s outsider thought-process contributes to his creativity, the importance of helping users through the upgrade process, and his tried and true philosophy as a software developer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:46] - The origins of RedwoodJS. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:02] - Tom&#39;s approach to the upgrade process. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[24:26] - The dangers of reinventing the wheel.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:25] - What developers should stop focusing on.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[30:55] - The relationship between apps and scale. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[36:14] - Tom&#39;s philosophy as a developer. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[41:18] - How RedwoodJS got its name. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[51:35] - Tom&#39;s creative outlet outside of software development. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quotes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[19:24] - &#34;Stay a bit naive of how everyone else does it just so that your solutions really are as novel as they can be. I think the risk of being boring and repetitive is way higher if you&#39;re spending a lot of time with the competitive things.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[22:01] - &#34;That&#39;s one thing that we&#39;re not gonna do. We&#39;re not gonna stop innovating, we&#39;re not gonna stop trying new things, bringing in better things that we&#39;ve found. We can&#39;t. We may as well give up now if that&#39;s the case.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[38:10] - &#34;Most people who are building stuff, their primary concern is not eeking every last ounce of render speed out of their app, it&#39;s getting something built quickly that the users are going to take advantage of. And so that&#39;s been the bulk of our focus so far. That&#39;s really where the bar is.&#34; ~ Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tom Preston-Werner [https://twitter.com/mojombo]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Redwood JS [https://redwoodjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lagavulin Scotch 8 [https://www.malts.com/en-us/products/single-malt-whisky/lagavulin-8-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nelson&#39;s Green Brier Distillery [https://greenbrierdistillery.com] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Penn &amp;amp; Teller: Bullshit! [https://www.sho.com/penn-and-teller-bullshit]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Mythbusters [https://go.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Laphroaig Scotch [https://www.laphroaig.com/en/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Octomore Whisky  [https://www.bruichladdich.com/octomore-super-heavily-peated-whisky-range/]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Next.js [https://nextjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React Podcast Episode 117: Tom Preston-Werner on RedwoodJS [https://spec.fm/podcasts/reactpodcast/6_mirYS8]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Meteor  [https://www.meteor.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruby on Rails  [https://rubyonrails.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ember.js [https://emberjs.com]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Svelte [https://svelte.dev] &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;React [https://reactjs.org]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Prisma [https://www.prisma.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Jest [https://jestjs.io]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Storybook [https://storybook.js.org]&lt;/li&gt;
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We discuss preventing bots from submitting forms with recaptcha, caching with GraphQL and Redis, NFTs, crypto, and various whatnot.&lt;/p&gt;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">54e7e35f-1932-4f49-a689-39aa957c0e28</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2021 20:20:56 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://op3.dev/e/episode.flightcast.com/ghy8rb4ycfdmmo7m226ikqbm.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck is in Middleburg, in person, for this episode, where we celebrate his Ship Shape anniversary with the WhistlePig Boss Hog: Magellan's Atlantic. 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  &lt;li&gt;00:37:25 - &#34;That&#39;s also perhaps a separate episode because sous vide is, it&#39;s the truth for steaks.&#34;&lt;/li&gt;
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