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Every episode is a working session. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan open up the systems they actually run: AI executive teams, voice coaching agents, software built in days, and the tests that separate a sellable asset from a founder-trapped business. Nothing theoretical. Don wrote the book and has run 9 companies over 39 years. Mike has run his own technology business for 17 years and helps businesses use technology to grow, from seven figures to eight and from eight to nine. Steve chartered and led a bank and has built and run other businesses.

Whether you’re sitting on an idea, scaling something that’s starting to strain, or planning your exit, the goal is the same: a business that runs without you.

Follow the show for the next build.

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Every episode is a working session. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan open up the systems they actually run: AI executive teams, voice coaching agents, software built in days, and the tests that separate a sellable asset from a founder-trapped business. Nothing theoretical. Don wrote the book and has run 9 companies over 39 years. Mike has run his own technology business for 17 years and helps businesses use technology to grow, from seven figures to eight and from eight to nine. Steve chartered and led a bank and has built and run other businesses.

Whether you’re sitting on an idea, scaling something that’s starting to strain, or planning your exit, the goal is the same: a business that runs without you.

Follow the show for the next build.

Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Entrepreneurship"></itunes:category></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Education"><itunes:category text="How To"></itunes:category></itunes:category><podcast:locked owner="mike@forgefireprotocol.com">no</podcast:locked><item><title>$10,000 an Hour for $39 a Month: Inside Get Hyperskills</title><description>Here’s Episode 21’s description in the same template, with the hook, learning points, and quotes swapped to match this episode’s content. The host bio, links, and follow sections are kept exactly as you supplied them since they’re standing boilerplate:
Episode 21: Don LaPlume demos the AI voice coach he built live on air, then opens up the back office behind Get Hyperskills, a platform that lets anyone build, publish, and sell their own AI coaching agent, no code, no prompting skill required.
Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
The Live Demo: Don’s AI voice coach role-plays a real painting-business sales objection, out loud, in real time, with no script.
Guardrails, Explained: The hard rules that keep an AI agent from ever doing the one thing it shouldn’t, like quoting a customer a price.
The Real Cost Comparison: What a coach who charges $10,000 to $100,000 a day actually costs, set against what Get Hyperskills costs today.
Build Without Prompting: How anyone can build, voice, and publish their own AI coaching agent just by answering a handful of plain questions.
The Marketplace Model: How publishing your own coach lets you set your price and earn a percentage every month someone stays subscribed.
FROM THE EPISODE:
“These are hard rules the agent can never break.” Don
“A lot of the coaches I’d want to work with, they’re $10,000 to $100,000 a day ... $10,000 an hour for some of them.” Mike
“This is $39 a month if I subscribe.” Don
“You get the knowledge, but the knowledge isn’t power.” Mike
“If you don’t know, and you’re on the fence, you haven’t used it. It’s not even an option. You need to use it.” Mike
“That’s their own IP, their own intellectual property, that would have to be sold for them.” Don
“Every single breakthrough in your business, your income, and your life, it starts right here ... it’s designed to shatter your limits and weaponize your execution.” Steve
FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
TRY GET HYPERSKILLS: https://gethyperskills.com
BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: https://book.forgefireprotocol.com
JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
EXPLORE THE APP: https://app.forgefireprotocol.com
READ THE BLOG: https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com
SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com
FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol
FOLLOW THE HOSTS:
Mike Sullivan
Follow Mike: https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com
Don LaPlume
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/
X: https://x.com/don_of_solar
Steve Moynihan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/
X: https://x.com/SMoynihan85837</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01M718XR5R29TG8B6HAFAE6CXP</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2026 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01M718XR5R29TG8B6HAFAE6CXP.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node"></p><p class="text-node">Here’s Episode 21’s description in the same template, with the hook, learning points, and quotes swapped to match this episode’s content. The host bio, links, and follow sections are kept exactly as you supplied them since they’re standing boilerplate:</p><p class="text-node">Episode 21: Don LaPlume demos the AI voice coach he built live on air, then opens up the back office behind Get Hyperskills, a platform that lets anyone build, publish, and sell their own AI coaching agent, no code, no prompting skill required.<br>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.<br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">The Live Demo: Don’s AI voice coach role-plays a real painting-business sales objection, out loud, in real time, with no script.</li><li class="list-item-node">Guardrails, Explained: The hard rules that keep an AI agent from ever doing the one thing it shouldn’t, like quoting a customer a price.</li><li class="list-item-node">The Real Cost Comparison: What a coach who charges $10,000 to $100,000 a day actually costs, set against what Get Hyperskills costs today.</li><li class="list-item-node">Build Without Prompting: How anyone can build, voice, and publish their own AI coaching agent just by answering a handful of plain questions.</li><li class="list-item-node">The Marketplace Model: How publishing your own coach lets you set your price and earn a percentage every month someone stays subscribed.</li></ul><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FROM THE EPISODE:</strong><br>“These are hard rules the agent can never break.” Don<br>“A lot of the coaches I’d want to work with, they’re $10,000 to $100,000 a day ... $10,000 an hour for some of them.” Mike<br>“This is $39 a month if I subscribe.” Don<br>“You get the knowledge, but the knowledge isn’t power.” Mike<br>“If you don’t know, and you’re on the fence, you haven’t used it. It’s not even an option. You need to use it.” Mike<br>“That’s their own IP, their own intellectual property, that would have to be sold for them.” Don<br>“Every single breakthrough in your business, your income, and your life, it starts right here ... it’s designed to shatter your limits and weaponize your execution.” Steve</p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:</strong><br>TRY GET HYPERSKILLS: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gethyperskills.com">https://gethyperskills.com</a><br>BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://book.forgefireprotocol.com">https://book.forgefireprotocol.com</a><br>JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge">https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a><br>EXPLORE THE APP: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://app.forgefireprotocol.com">https://app.forgefireprotocol.com</a><br>READ THE BLOG: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com">https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com</a><br>SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com">https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com</a></p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:</strong><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol">https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol</a><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol">https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol">https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol</a><br>YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol">https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol</a><br>TikTok: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol">https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol</a></p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FOLLOW THE HOSTS:</strong><br><strong>Mike Sullivan</strong><br>Follow Mike: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com">https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com</a></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Don LaPlume</strong><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494">https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/</a><br>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/don_of_solar">https://x.com/don_of_solar</a></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Steve Moynihan</strong><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan">https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/</a><br>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://x.com/SMoynihan85837">https://x.com/SMoynihan85837</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>$10,000 an Hour for $39 a Month: Inside Get Hyperskills</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M71900A9BYHA8VRJ8AC4WZW6/10000-an-hour-for-39-a-month-episode-21.png.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3701</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Here’s Episode 21’s description in the same template, with the hook, learning points, and quotes swapped to match this episode’s content. The host bio, links, and follow sections are kept exactly as you supplied them since they’re standing boilerplate:
Episode 21: Don LaPlume demos the AI voice coach he built live on air, then opens up the back office behind Get Hyperskills, a platform that lets anyone build, publish, and sell their own AI coaching agent, no code, no prompting skill required.
Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN:
The Live Demo: Don’s AI voice coach role-plays a real painting-business sales objection, out loud, in real time, with no script.
Guardrails, Explained: The hard rules that keep an AI agent from ever doing the one thing it shouldn’t, like quoting a customer a price.
The Real Cost Comparison: What a coach who charges $10,000 to $100,000 a day actually costs, set against what Get Hyperskills costs today.
Build Without Prompting: How anyone can build, voice, and publish their own AI coaching agent just by answering a handful of plain questions.
The Marketplace Model: How publishing your own coach lets you set your price and earn a percentage every month someone stays subscribed.
FROM THE EPISODE:
“These are hard rules the agent can never break.” Don
“A lot of the coaches I’d want to work with, they’re $10,000 to $100,000 a day ... $10,000 an hour for some of them.” Mike
“This is $39 a month if I subscribe.” Don
“You get the knowledge, but the knowledge isn’t power.” Mike
“If you don’t know, and you’re on the fence, you haven’t used it. It’s not even an option. You need to use it.” Mike
“That’s their own IP, their own intellectual property, that would have to be sold for them.” Don
“Every single breakthrough in your business, your income, and your life, it starts right here ... it’s designed to shatter your limits and weaponize your execution.” Steve
FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
TRY GET HYPERSKILLS: https://gethyperskills.com
BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: https://book.forgefireprotocol.com
JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
EXPLORE THE APP: https://app.forgefireprotocol.com
READ THE BLOG: https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com
SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com
FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol
FOLLOW THE HOSTS:
Mike Sullivan
Follow Mike: https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com
Don LaPlume
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/
X: https://x.com/don_of_solar
Steve Moynihan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/
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Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU&#39;LL LEARN:
The Honest Starting Question: Why Mike begins every build by admitting &#34;I suck at accounting,&#34; and how naming your weakest seat is the fastest way to know which bot to build first.
The Real Cost Comparison: What a high-quality attorney, CFO, CMO, and EOS implementer actually cost on staff, set against what the AI versions cost Don and Mike today. ■ Human in the Loop: How Don built &#34;control of the purse&#34; into every bot on his team, so AI can research and draft freely but never spends a dollar without his sign-off.
One Team, Seven Companies: How Don runs all 7 of his businesses off a single AI org chart, financially walled off company by company but operationally shared for leverage.
The $10 Million Exit Rule: Why a buyer wants to buy a business, not a founder, and what &#34;being removable from the operation&#34; actually requires.
Naming Your Bots: How modeling an AI role on the best person you&#39;ve ever seen do that job, a mentor, a public figure, even someone you&#39;ve lost, changes how it performs.
FROM THE EPISODE: 
&#34;I suck at accounting. I&#39;m not even, like, kinda good.&#34; Mike
&#34;What does it cost to bring an attorney on staff? ... $750 to $1,000 an hour.&#34; Don and Mike
&#34;I have control of the purse. It&#39;s not gonna spend money where I don&#39;t allow it. But it has
access to everything.&#34; Don
&#34;This particular board would probably cost me over a million dollars a year in salary ... I&#39;ll bet
this board doesn&#39;t cost me more than $3,000, $4,000 a year in AI.&#34; Don
&#34;In order to have a $10 million exit, what do you need to do? You need to be removed, or removable, from the operation.&#34; Don
&#34;What would it cost me? ... $50,000 to $150,000 ... it&#39;s included in my $19.99 a month subscription.&#34; Mike
&#34;It&#39;s the ultimate cheat code for leverage ... run a multi-million dollar operation with the headcount of a lemonade stand.&#34; Steve
FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: https://book.forgefireprotocol.com
JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge 
EXPLORE THE APP: https://app.forgefireprotocol.com 
READ THE BLOG: https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com 
SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com
FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL: 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol 
FOLLOW THE HOSTS: 
Mike Sullivan 
Follow Mike: https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com
Don LaPlume 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/
X: https://x.com/don_of_solar
Steve Moynihan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/
X: https://x.com/SMoynihan85837</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01M70PR951JBJJRK50DJWA5E3J</guid><pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 21:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01M70PR951JBJJRK50DJWA5E3J.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Episode 20: Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan open up their actual AI org charts and show you exactly how to build a full virtual executive team - CFO, CMO, legal counsel, grant hunter, guardrail bot, and more - without hiring a single person.</p><p class="text-node">Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.</p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:</strong></p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">The Honest Starting Question: Why Mike begins every build by admitting "I suck at accounting," and how naming your weakest seat is the fastest way to know which bot to build first.</li><li class="list-item-node">The Real Cost Comparison: What a high-quality attorney, CFO, CMO, and EOS implementer actually cost on staff, set against what the AI versions cost Don and Mike today. ■ Human in the Loop: How Don built "control of the purse" into every bot on his team, so AI can research and draft freely but never spends a dollar without his sign-off.</li><li class="list-item-node">One Team, Seven Companies: How Don runs all 7 of his businesses off a single AI org chart, financially walled off company by company but operationally shared for leverage.</li><li class="list-item-node">The $10 Million Exit Rule: Why a buyer wants to buy a business, not a founder, and what "being removable from the operation" actually requires.</li><li class="list-item-node">Naming Your Bots: How modeling an AI role on the best person you've ever seen do that job, a mentor, a public figure, even someone you've lost, changes how it performs.</li></ul><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FROM THE EPISODE:</strong> <br>"I suck at accounting. I'm not even, like, kinda good." Mike</p><p class="text-node">"What does it cost to bring an attorney on staff? ... $750 to $1,000 an hour." Don and Mike</p><p class="text-node">"I have control of the purse. It's not gonna spend money where I don't allow it. But it has<br>access to everything." Don</p><p class="text-node">"This particular board would probably cost me over a million dollars a year in salary ... I'll bet<br>this board doesn't cost me more than $3,000, $4,000 a year in AI." Don</p><p class="text-node">"In order to have a $10 million exit, what do you need to do? You need to be removed, or removable, from the operation." Don</p><p class="text-node">"What would it cost me? ... $50,000 to $150,000 ... it's included in my $19.99 a month subscription." Mike</p><p class="text-node">"It's the ultimate cheat code for leverage ... run a multi-million dollar operation with the headcount of a lemonade stand." Steve</p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:</strong></p><p class="text-node">BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://book.forgefireprotocol.com">https://book.forgefireprotocol.com</a><br>JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: h<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge">ttps://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge </a><br>EXPLORE THE APP: h<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://app.forgefireprotocol.com">ttps://app.forgefireprotocol.com </a><br>READ THE BLOG: h<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com">ttps://blog.forgefireprotocol.com </a><br>SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: h<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com">ttps://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com</a></p><p class="text-node"><br><strong>FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL: </strong><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol/">https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol</a><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol">https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol</a> <br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol">https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol</a><br>YouTube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol">https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol</a><br>TikTok: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol">https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol</a> <br></p><p class="text-node"><strong>FOLLOW THE HOSTS:</strong> <br><strong>Mike Sullivan </strong><br>Follow Mike: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com">https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com</a></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Don LaPlume </strong><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494">https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/</a><br>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/don_of_solar">https://x.com/don_of_solar</a></p><p class="text-node"><strong>Steve Moynihan</strong><br>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan">https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/</a><br>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://x.com/SMoynihan85837">https://x.com/SMoynihan85837</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Ultimate Cheat Code: $1 Million of Talent for $19.99</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M7180K7F6MNG9YEYQQVCYY5V/ultimate-cheat-code-episode-20.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3491</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 20: Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan open up their actual AI org charts and show you exactly how to build a full virtual executive team - CFO, CMO, legal counsel, grant hunter, guardrail bot, and more - without hiring a single person.
Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan are the co-founders of Forge Fire Protocol, a business platform, book and podcast built around one goal: helping 10,000 founders reach a $10 million exit in the next 5 years. Don wrote the Forge Fire Protocol book after 39 years running 9 companies; Mike built the technology backbone behind the ecosystem after 17 years running his own IT business; Steve chartered and led a bank before co-founding Forge Fire Protocol.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU&#39;LL LEARN:
The Honest Starting Question: Why Mike begins every build by admitting &#34;I suck at accounting,&#34; and how naming your weakest seat is the fastest way to know which bot to build first.
The Real Cost Comparison: What a high-quality attorney, CFO, CMO, and EOS implementer actually cost on staff, set against what the AI versions cost Don and Mike today. ■ Human in the Loop: How Don built &#34;control of the purse&#34; into every bot on his team, so AI can research and draft freely but never spends a dollar without his sign-off.
One Team, Seven Companies: How Don runs all 7 of his businesses off a single AI org chart, financially walled off company by company but operationally shared for leverage.
The $10 Million Exit Rule: Why a buyer wants to buy a business, not a founder, and what &#34;being removable from the operation&#34; actually requires.
Naming Your Bots: How modeling an AI role on the best person you&#39;ve ever seen do that job, a mentor, a public figure, even someone you&#39;ve lost, changes how it performs.
FROM THE EPISODE: 
&#34;I suck at accounting. I&#39;m not even, like, kinda good.&#34; Mike
&#34;What does it cost to bring an attorney on staff? ... $750 to $1,000 an hour.&#34; Don and Mike
&#34;I have control of the purse. It&#39;s not gonna spend money where I don&#39;t allow it. But it has
access to everything.&#34; Don
&#34;This particular board would probably cost me over a million dollars a year in salary ... I&#39;ll bet
this board doesn&#39;t cost me more than $3,000, $4,000 a year in AI.&#34; Don
&#34;In order to have a $10 million exit, what do you need to do? You need to be removed, or removable, from the operation.&#34; Don
&#34;What would it cost me? ... $50,000 to $150,000 ... it&#39;s included in my $19.99 a month subscription.&#34; Mike
&#34;It&#39;s the ultimate cheat code for leverage ... run a multi-million dollar operation with the headcount of a lemonade stand.&#34; Steve
FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL:
BUY THE FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL BOOK: https://book.forgefireprotocol.com
JOIN THE $10 MILLION CHALLENGE: https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge 
EXPLORE THE APP: https://app.forgefireprotocol.com 
READ THE BLOG: https://blog.forgefireprotocol.com 
SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST: https://podcast.forgefireprotocol.com
FOLLOW FORGE FIRE PROTOCOL: 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forgefireprotocol
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forgefireprotocol 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/forgefireprotocol
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@forgefireprotocol
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@forgefireprotocol 
FOLLOW THE HOSTS: 
Mike Sullivan 
Follow Mike: https://follow.themichaelsullivan.com
Don LaPlume 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61591528292494
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldlaplume/
X: https://x.com/don_of_solar
Steve Moynihan
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tsmoynihan
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-steven-moynihan-81a06b1a/
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 See it yourself: coatline.tech/demo&#xD;
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 WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why the real cost of running 5 apps isn&#39;t the subscriptions, it&#39;s the integration and the training - The &#34;orchestra has a conductor&#34; problem with stacking best-in-class software - How a minimal viable product in 2026 does what version 10 used to do five years ago - Why the first reaction to any new system can&#39;t be negative, even if it&#39;s great - How real-time customization (a button added mid-demo, live) changes what &#34;support&#34; means - What a white glove setup actually removes from a 30-day implementation nightmare - How an AI sales coach with a &#34;silence mode&#34; reviews a live sales call and reports back&#xD;
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 FROM THE EPISODE &#34;5 apps, $800 a month wasted. We built one to replace them all.&#34; Don &#34;The question is the orchestration.&#34; Mike &#34;But the bottom line is it orchestra has a conductor.&#34; Mike &#34;I love the fact that longer was a week.&#34; Mike &#34;Do you know how much better that is than retaining 10 cans of paint in your house unnecessarily for a decade?&#34; Mike &#34;This is duplicatable. What we&#39;re doing, you could do this. You just need the tools.&#34; Don&#xD;
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 Don, Mike, and Steve walk through the actual product: scheduling, fleet tracking, a customer portal that remembers exact paint formulas for a decade, a lead-capture system that calls a prospect inside a minute, and an AI sales coach that can run role-play or silently score a real call.&#xD;
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 TIMESTAMPS 00:35 Welcome, and the hook: 5 apps, $800 a month wasted 01:08 Introducing CoatLine and coatline.tech 01:36 The friend with a painting company, the apps, and the $800 a month 02:39 Finding a pain nobody had quite named yet 03:25 It&#39;s not just cost, it&#39;s orchestration 04:49 &#34;Orchestra has a conductor&#34; 05:01 Why they build instead of subscribe 06:08 The tasks CoatLine automates for painting contractors 07:32 Replacing all of it, and the soft costs nobody counts 09:05 The minimal viable product, and why v1.0 now beats v10 from five years ago 10:48 Built in one week 11:17 The mastermind session: &#34;what do you really want?&#34; 11:46 The reticular activating system, explained with a Yukon Denali 13:51 Why the gut reaction to something new can&#39;t be negative 14:24 Simplify to 4th and 5th grade logic 15:07 What CoatLine actually automates, in Steve&#39;s words 16:08 Why &#34;longer&#34; was only a week 17:00 Built as a business, not a favor 17:33 Dashboard walkthrough: jobs, bottlenecks, ratings, revenue 19:03 The scheduler: drag a crew in, done 21:22 Fleet tracking: vehicles, lifts, maintenance 23:49 Real-time customization: &#34;you tell us, we build it&#34; 25:55 The &#34;last week&#34; button that didn&#39;t exist a week ago 26:16 Dispatch map, GPS check-ins, and read-receipt safety messaging 27:55 The customer portal: exact paint codes customers keep for a decade 29:25 &#34;Ten cans of paint in your house, unnecessarily, for a decade&#34; 31:32 On-site estimating, room by room 32:54 Naming rooms the way the homeowner does 38:08 The Call Now system: calling a lead inside a minute 39:04 The 391% conversion stat 40:53 White glove setup: no 30-day implementation nightmare 42:34 Inside the coaching platform: AI sales coach and silence mode 46:36 &#34;Have you ever seen a painting app that comes with that?&#34; 48:08 The sales system itself: coatline.tech/demo, and Emma 55:20 Why none of this exists without Forge Fire Protocol 58:27 Get the book, and why this is duplicatable&#xD;
&#xD;
 SEE COATLINE coatline.tech/demo Book a live demo or run the self-guided AI demo on your own time. No pressure, no pitch.&#xD;
&#xD;
 GOT YOUR OWN SOFTWARE HEADACHE? If you&#39;re running multiple apps that don&#39;t talk to each other in your trade or your business, tell us. Forge Fire Protocol builds the exact package you need, and discounts the first build for the input.&#xD;
&#xD;
 Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.&#xD;
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 Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:d9rndtway4bfptd4ef04zimd</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 10:38:04 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/d9rndtway4bfptd4ef04zimd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 18: A painting company owner was running 5 different apps, paying $800 a month, and none of them talked to each other. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan break down the real problem (it&#39;s not the cost, it&#39;s the orchestration) and walk through CoatLine, the business operating system they built to replace it, start to finish, in one week.</p><p> See it yourself: coatline.tech/demo</p><p> WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why the real cost of running 5 apps isn&#39;t the subscriptions, it&#39;s the integration and the training - The &quot;orchestra has a conductor&quot; problem with stacking best-in-class software - How a minimal viable product in 2026 does what version 10 used to do five years ago - Why the first reaction to any new system can&#39;t be negative, even if it&#39;s great - How real-time customization (a button added mid-demo, live) changes what &quot;support&quot; means - What a white glove setup actually removes from a 30-day implementation nightmare - How an AI sales coach with a &quot;silence mode&quot; reviews a live sales call and reports back</p><p> FROM THE EPISODE &quot;5 apps, $800 a month wasted. We built one to replace them all.&quot; Don &quot;The question is the orchestration.&quot; Mike &quot;But the bottom line is it orchestra has a conductor.&quot; Mike &quot;I love the fact that longer was a week.&quot; Mike &quot;Do you know how much better that is than retaining 10 cans of paint in your house unnecessarily for a decade?&quot; Mike &quot;This is duplicatable. What we&#39;re doing, you could do this. You just need the tools.&quot; Don</p><p> Don, Mike, and Steve walk through the actual product: scheduling, fleet tracking, a customer portal that remembers exact paint formulas for a decade, a lead-capture system that calls a prospect inside a minute, and an AI sales coach that can run role-play or silently score a real call.</p><p> TIMESTAMPS 00:35 Welcome, and the hook: 5 apps, $800 a month wasted 01:08 Introducing CoatLine and coatline.tech 01:36 The friend with a painting company, the apps, and the $800 a month 02:39 Finding a pain nobody had quite named yet 03:25 It&#39;s not just cost, it&#39;s orchestration 04:49 &quot;Orchestra has a conductor&quot; 05:01 Why they build instead of subscribe 06:08 The tasks CoatLine automates for painting contractors 07:32 Replacing all of it, and the soft costs nobody counts 09:05 The minimal viable product, and why v1.0 now beats v10 from five years ago 10:48 Built in one week 11:17 The mastermind session: &quot;what do you really want?&quot; 11:46 The reticular activating system, explained with a Yukon Denali 13:51 Why the gut reaction to something new can&#39;t be negative 14:24 Simplify to 4th and 5th grade logic 15:07 What CoatLine actually automates, in Steve&#39;s words 16:08 Why &quot;longer&quot; was only a week 17:00 Built as a business, not a favor 17:33 Dashboard walkthrough: jobs, bottlenecks, ratings, revenue 19:03 The scheduler: drag a crew in, done 21:22 Fleet tracking: vehicles, lifts, maintenance 23:49 Real-time customization: &quot;you tell us, we build it&quot; 25:55 The &quot;last week&quot; button that didn&#39;t exist a week ago 26:16 Dispatch map, GPS check-ins, and read-receipt safety messaging 27:55 The customer portal: exact paint codes customers keep for a decade 29:25 &quot;Ten cans of paint in your house, unnecessarily, for a decade&quot; 31:32 On-site estimating, room by room 32:54 Naming rooms the way the homeowner does 38:08 The Call Now system: calling a lead inside a minute 39:04 The 391% conversion stat 40:53 White glove setup: no 30-day implementation nightmare 42:34 Inside the coaching platform: AI sales coach and silence mode 46:36 &quot;Have you ever seen a painting app that comes with that?&quot; 48:08 The sales system itself: coatline.tech/demo, and Emma 55:20 Why none of this exists without Forge Fire Protocol 58:27 Get the book, and why this is duplicatable</p><p> SEE COATLINE coatline.tech/demo Book a live demo or run the self-guided AI demo on your own time. No pressure, no pitch.</p><p> GOT YOUR OWN SOFTWARE HEADACHE? If you&#39;re running multiple apps that don&#39;t talk to each other in your trade or your business, tell us. Forge Fire Protocol builds the exact package you need, and discounts the first build for the input.</p><p> Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.</p><p> Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>5 Apps, $800 a Month Wasted - We Built One to Replace Them All</itunes:title><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M6M5P112X7HCMTYS2BSVQWG1/painting-business-software-replace-5-apps-episode-18.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3608</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:summary>Episode 18: A painting company owner was running 5 different apps, paying $800 a month, and none of them talked to each other. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan break down the real problem (it&#39;s not the cost, it&#39;s the orchestration) and walk through CoatLine, the business operating system they built to replace it, start to finish, in one week.&#xD;
&#xD;
 See it yourself: coatline.tech/demo&#xD;
&#xD;
 WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why the real cost of running 5 apps isn&#39;t the subscriptions, it&#39;s the integration and the training - The &#34;orchestra has a conductor&#34; problem with stacking best-in-class software - How a minimal viable product in 2026 does what version 10 used to do five years ago - Why the first reaction to any new system can&#39;t be negative, even if it&#39;s great - How real-time customization (a button added mid-demo, live) changes what &#34;support&#34; means - What a white glove setup actually removes from a 30-day implementation nightmare - How an AI sales coach with a &#34;silence mode&#34; reviews a live sales call and reports back&#xD;
&#xD;
 FROM THE EPISODE &#34;5 apps, $800 a month wasted. We built one to replace them all.&#34; Don &#34;The question is the orchestration.&#34; Mike &#34;But the bottom line is it orchestra has a conductor.&#34; Mike &#34;I love the fact that longer was a week.&#34; Mike &#34;Do you know how much better that is than retaining 10 cans of paint in your house unnecessarily for a decade?&#34; Mike &#34;This is duplicatable. What we&#39;re doing, you could do this. You just need the tools.&#34; Don&#xD;
&#xD;
 Don, Mike, and Steve walk through the actual product: scheduling, fleet tracking, a customer portal that remembers exact paint formulas for a decade, a lead-capture system that calls a prospect inside a minute, and an AI sales coach that can run role-play or silently score a real call.&#xD;
&#xD;
 TIMESTAMPS 00:35 Welcome, and the hook: 5 apps, $800 a month wasted 01:08 Introducing CoatLine and coatline.tech 01:36 The friend with a painting company, the apps, and the $800 a month 02:39 Finding a pain nobody had quite named yet 03:25 It&#39;s not just cost, it&#39;s orchestration 04:49 &#34;Orchestra has a conductor&#34; 05:01 Why they build instead of subscribe 06:08 The tasks CoatLine automates for painting contractors 07:32 Replacing all of it, and the soft costs nobody counts 09:05 The minimal viable product, and why v1.0 now beats v10 from five years ago 10:48 Built in one week 11:17 The mastermind session: &#34;what do you really want?&#34; 11:46 The reticular activating system, explained with a Yukon Denali 13:51 Why the gut reaction to something new can&#39;t be negative 14:24 Simplify to 4th and 5th grade logic 15:07 What CoatLine actually automates, in Steve&#39;s words 16:08 Why &#34;longer&#34; was only a week 17:00 Built as a business, not a favor 17:33 Dashboard walkthrough: jobs, bottlenecks, ratings, revenue 19:03 The scheduler: drag a crew in, done 21:22 Fleet tracking: vehicles, lifts, maintenance 23:49 Real-time customization: &#34;you tell us, we build it&#34; 25:55 The &#34;last week&#34; button that didn&#39;t exist a week ago 26:16 Dispatch map, GPS check-ins, and read-receipt safety messaging 27:55 The customer portal: exact paint codes customers keep for a decade 29:25 &#34;Ten cans of paint in your house, unnecessarily, for a decade&#34; 31:32 On-site estimating, room by room 32:54 Naming rooms the way the homeowner does 38:08 The Call Now system: calling a lead inside a minute 39:04 The 391% conversion stat 40:53 White glove setup: no 30-day implementation nightmare 42:34 Inside the coaching platform: AI sales coach and silence mode 46:36 &#34;Have you ever seen a painting app that comes with that?&#34; 48:08 The sales system itself: coatline.tech/demo, and Emma 55:20 Why none of this exists without Forge Fire Protocol 58:27 Get the book, and why this is duplicatable&#xD;
&#xD;
 SEE COATLINE coatline.tech/demo Book a live demo or run the self-guided AI demo on your own time. No pressure, no pitch.&#xD;
&#xD;
 GOT YOUR OWN SOFTWARE HEADACHE? If you&#39;re running multiple apps that don&#39;t talk to each other in your trade or your business, tell us. Forge Fire Protocol builds the exact package you need, and discounts the first build for the input.&#xD;
&#xD;
 Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.&#xD;
&#xD;
 Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M6M5NVQXFCKWN5XQBGSED4W4/painting-business-software-youtube-thumbnail-ep18.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M6M5NVQXFCKWN5XQBGSED4W4/painting-business-software-youtube-thumbnail-ep18.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/d9rndtway4bfptd4ef04zimd.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/d9rndtway4bfptd4ef04zimd.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>You Don&#39;t Know What You Don&#39;t Know</title><description>Episode 17: You&#39;ve never met a successful entrepreneur without a coach. Not one. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into why coaching changes outcomes, how it&#39;s different from a mastermind, and how to actually find the right one for where you are right now.
Test your idea free: app.forgefireprotocol.com
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why &#34;you don&#39;t know what you don&#39;t know&#34; is the entire case for coaching, in seven words - The real difference between a mastermind and a coach, and why you need both - How to tell when you&#39;ve outgrown a coach, and when to change - Why your mentors don&#39;t have to be alive, or even reachable, to still coach you - What it actually costs to buy real proximity to the people ahead of you - How coaches are starting to license the Forge Fire Protocol&#39;s five-phase system for their own clients
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;I have never in my life met a successful entrepreneur who didn&#39;t have coaches, plural.&#34; Mike &#34;You don&#39;t know what you don&#39;t know.&#34; Mike &#34;Success leaves clues. Follow the people who have had success.&#34; Mike &#34;Wouldn&#39;t it be a shame if you wasted all of that knowledge?&#34; Don, recalling a mentor&#39;s advice &#34;Those coaches don&#39;t have to be living.&#34; Mike
Steve also tells the full story of the advice that got him through the toughest negotiation of his life, and Mike gets candid about a coach from his teenage years whose influence he still carries.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today&#39;s topic: coaching 01:30 Why coaching matters: Mike on the athletes you already know 02:58 The bear-trap woods story, and a decision made at a party 06:36 What a coach actually changes: courage 08:03 Trust the process, and knowing when to switch coaches 10:49 Live coaching, demonstrated: Mike coaches Don in real time 14:22 Don&#39;s conversation with business coach Doug Babcock 17:25 Mike gets emotional: Coach Jerry Bilodeau and the team that ran as one 21:41 Interviewing mentors, living or not, into your own mastermind 22:12 Pulling Einstein, Jobs, and Musk into the Forge Fire mastermind 22:50 Masterminding versus coaching: the real difference 27:58 Steve&#39;s story: a mentor&#39;s advice before a big meeting 29:50 Starting a bank, and the call that changed everything 38:00 Don&#39;s mentor, Bob Dorn: &#34;wouldn&#39;t it be a shame to waste that?&#34; 40:04 Coaches don&#39;t have to be living 42:07 The coaching program being built into Forge Fire Protocol 45:56 The five-phase licensing spine for coaches 46:44 Why you need more than one coach, and the law of proximity 49:11 Success leaves clues 50:09 Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com
TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE app.forgefireprotocol.com Register for the free version of the app to run the 72-hour market test.
ARE YOU A COACH? Forge Fire Protocol is building a coaching program and licensing system, and looking for coaches to join a case study right now. If you teach mindset or strategy and want the business systems to go with it, reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.
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Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ddfefb04-8cf0-45e4-b46c-3710745c4164</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/iilwe6zdwqhlzretgnotkwlg.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 17: You've never met a successful entrepreneur without a coach. Not one. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into why coaching changes outcomes, how it's different from a mastermind, and how to actually find the right one for where you are right now.</p> <p>Test your idea free: <a title="Forge Fire Protocol App" href= "https://app.forgefireprotocol.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">app.forgefireprotocol.com</a></p> <p>WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why "you don't know what you don't know" is the entire case for coaching, in seven words - The real difference between a mastermind and a coach, and why you need both - How to tell when you've outgrown a coach, and when to change - Why your mentors don't have to be alive, or even reachable, to still coach you - What it actually costs to buy real proximity to the people ahead of you - How coaches are starting to license the Forge Fire Protocol's five-phase system for their own clients</p> <p>FROM THE EPISODE "I have never in my life met a successful entrepreneur who didn't have coaches, plural." Mike "You don't know what you don't know." Mike "Success leaves clues. Follow the people who have had success." Mike "Wouldn't it be a shame if you wasted all of that knowledge?" Don, recalling a mentor's advice "Those coaches don't have to be living." Mike</p> <p>Steve also tells the full story of the advice that got him through the toughest negotiation of his life, and Mike gets candid about a coach from his teenage years whose influence he still carries.</p> <p>TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today's topic: coaching 01:30 Why coaching matters: Mike on the athletes you already know 02:58 The bear-trap woods story, and a decision made at a party 06:36 What a coach actually changes: courage 08:03 Trust the process, and knowing when to switch coaches 10:49 Live coaching, demonstrated: Mike coaches Don in real time 14:22 Don's conversation with business coach Doug Babcock 17:25 Mike gets emotional: Coach Jerry Bilodeau and the team that ran as one 21:41 Interviewing mentors, living or not, into your own mastermind 22:12 Pulling Einstein, Jobs, and Musk into the Forge Fire mastermind 22:50 Masterminding versus coaching: the real difference 27:58 Steve's story: a mentor's advice before a big meeting 29:50 Starting a bank, and the call that changed everything 38:00 Don's mentor, Bob Dorn: "wouldn't it be a shame to waste that?" 40:04 Coaches don't have to be living 42:07 The coaching program being built into Forge Fire Protocol 45:56 The five-phase licensing spine for coaches 46:44 Why you need more than one coach, and the law of proximity 49:11 Success leaves clues 50:09 Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com</p> <p>TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE app.forgefireprotocol.com Register for the free version of the app to run the 72-hour market test.</p> <p>ARE YOU A COACH? Forge Fire Protocol is building a coaching program and licensing system, and looking for coaches to join a case study right now. If you teach mindset or strategy and want the business systems to go with it, reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.</p> <p>Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.</p> <p>Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>You Don&#39;t Know What You Don&#39;t Know</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M7289Q6W45VGX4NASMWQNHK2/why-every-entrepreneur-needs-a-business-coach-episode-17.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2892</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 17: You&#39;ve never met a successful entrepreneur without a coach. Not one. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into why coaching changes outcomes, how it&#39;s different from a mastermind, and how to actually find the right one for where you are right now.
Test your idea free: app.forgefireprotocol.com
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why &#34;you don&#39;t know what you don&#39;t know&#34; is the entire case for coaching, in seven words - The real difference between a mastermind and a coach, and why you need both - How to tell when you&#39;ve outgrown a coach, and when to change - Why your mentors don&#39;t have to be alive, or even reachable, to still coach you - What it actually costs to buy real proximity to the people ahead of you - How coaches are starting to license the Forge Fire Protocol&#39;s five-phase system for their own clients
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;I have never in my life met a successful entrepreneur who didn&#39;t have coaches, plural.&#34; Mike &#34;You don&#39;t know what you don&#39;t know.&#34; Mike &#34;Success leaves clues. Follow the people who have had success.&#34; Mike &#34;Wouldn&#39;t it be a shame if you wasted all of that knowledge?&#34; Don, recalling a mentor&#39;s advice &#34;Those coaches don&#39;t have to be living.&#34; Mike
Steve also tells the full story of the advice that got him through the toughest negotiation of his life, and Mike gets candid about a coach from his teenage years whose influence he still carries.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today&#39;s topic: coaching 01:30 Why coaching matters: Mike on the athletes you already know 02:58 The bear-trap woods story, and a decision made at a party 06:36 What a coach actually changes: courage 08:03 Trust the process, and knowing when to switch coaches 10:49 Live coaching, demonstrated: Mike coaches Don in real time 14:22 Don&#39;s conversation with business coach Doug Babcock 17:25 Mike gets emotional: Coach Jerry Bilodeau and the team that ran as one 21:41 Interviewing mentors, living or not, into your own mastermind 22:12 Pulling Einstein, Jobs, and Musk into the Forge Fire mastermind 22:50 Masterminding versus coaching: the real difference 27:58 Steve&#39;s story: a mentor&#39;s advice before a big meeting 29:50 Starting a bank, and the call that changed everything 38:00 Don&#39;s mentor, Bob Dorn: &#34;wouldn&#39;t it be a shame to waste that?&#34; 40:04 Coaches don&#39;t have to be living 42:07 The coaching program being built into Forge Fire Protocol 45:56 The five-phase licensing spine for coaches 46:44 Why you need more than one coach, and the law of proximity 49:11 Success leaves clues 50:09 Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com
TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE app.forgefireprotocol.com Register for the free version of the app to run the 72-hour market test.
ARE YOU A COACH? Forge Fire Protocol is building a coaching program and licensing system, and looking for coaches to join a case study right now. If you teach mindset or strategy and want the business systems to go with it, reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.
Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M6KW8BNRZYMWCZC4FXB7KCDB/business-coaching-youtube-thumbnail-ep17.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/01M6KW8BNRZYMWCZC4FXB7KCDB/business-coaching-youtube-thumbnail-ep17.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/iilwe6zdwqhlzretgnotkwlg.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/iilwe6zdwqhlzretgnotkwlg.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Don&#39;t Die With the Idea Inside You</title><description>Episode 16: You&#39;ve got an idea. You&#39;ve had it a while. So what&#39;s actually stopping you? Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into the real reason good ideas stay stuck in people&#39;s heads: perfectionism, fear, and the self-talk running in the background of every &#34;not yet.&#34;
Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why perfectionism isn&#39;t discipline, it&#39;s a way of never finishing - The three-step process for replacing a negative thought: recognize it, reject it, replace it - Why &#34;progress, not perfection&#34; sounds backwards until it doesn&#39;t - The real reason people hide behind endless planning and call it being realistic - Why certainty is an illusion, and what&#39;s actually certain instead - How to get compensated for a good idea even if you never want to run the business yourself
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;Our goal is progress, not perfection.&#34; Mike &#34;Fear causes hesitation. Hesitation causes your worst fears to come true.&#34; Steve &#34;Don&#39;t, don&#39;t die with the idea inside you.&#34; Don &#34;That certainty is just certain for the same old, same old, which has not got you where you want to go.&#34; Mike &#34;The only thing I will not accept is no-thing.&#34; Mike &#34;Success leaves clues.&#34; Mike
Mike also shares a story from a tough sophomore year in high school and what his brother did about it, and Don explains why not everyone is meant to launch a business themselves, and what to do with your idea if you&#39;re not.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today&#39;s question: what stops people? 01:14 Perfectionism: Don&#39;s early story 02:34 Steve: getting ready to get ready to get set to get ready 03:17 Mike: fear, doubt, and feeling unworthy as a young athlete 04:39 Mike&#39;s brother&#39;s intervention, and progress not perfection 07:13 What you feed your mind: Don on self-talk and news 09:26 Thoughts control beliefs, beliefs control actions, actions control results 09:43 You can&#39;t delete a thought. You can only replace it 11:20 Fear causes hesitation, hesitation causes your worst fears 13:14 The Tesla Roadster tangent, and 0 to 100 in real life 16:23 Certainty is an illusion 18:00 Testing the idea instead of judging it 19:24 The 72-hour market test, explained 19:58 Mike&#39;s rule: the only thing I won&#39;t accept is nothing 21:19 Don&#39;s negotiating story: $100,000 vs $106,000 24:18 Why community and mentors change the outcome 26:10 &#34;You&#39;re a great starter, a terrible finisher&#34; 28:05 Not everyone is meant to launch a business 29:11 The idea was given to you for a reason 31:20 Get compensated for your idea, without building it yourself 32:52 Don&#39;t die with the idea inside you 34:49 Take the founder out of the operational role 37:07 What if they all succeed? 39:00 Lessons, not failures: the fly and the window 40:00 Success leaves clues 41:22 Register free at app.forgefireprotocol.com
TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE https://app.forgefireprotocol.com Register for the free version of the app to define your ideal client and run the 72-hour market test. No cost, no catch.
GOT AN IDEA YOU DON&#39;T WANT TO BUILD YOURSELF? Don and the team are putting together a group that will take validated ideas to market on the idea owner&#39;s behalf, with compensation for the idea. Reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.
NEXT EPISODE Why coaching matters, and how to find the right coach for your business.
Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">54ebd012-358d-486d-b7fd-b7e5d33323ac</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2026 16:29:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/hsxc9349yqw1w5842iz9uwn3.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 16: You've got an idea. You've had it a while. So what's actually stopping you? Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into the real reason good ideas stay stuck in people's heads: perfectionism, fear, and the self-talk running in the background of every "not yet."</p> <p>Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com</p> <p>WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why perfectionism isn't discipline, it's a way of never finishing - The three-step process for replacing a negative thought: recognize it, reject it, replace it - Why "progress, not perfection" sounds backwards until it doesn't - The real reason people hide behind endless planning and call it being realistic - Why certainty is an illusion, and what's actually certain instead - How to get compensated for a good idea even if you never want to run the business yourself</p> <p>FROM THE EPISODE "Our goal is progress, not perfection." Mike "Fear causes hesitation. Hesitation causes your worst fears to come true." Steve "Don't, don't die with the idea inside you." Don "That certainty is just certain for the same old, same old, which has not got you where you want to go." Mike "The only thing I will not accept is no-thing." Mike "Success leaves clues." Mike</p> <p>Mike also shares a story from a tough sophomore year in high school and what his brother did about it, and Don explains why not everyone is meant to launch a business themselves, and what to do with your idea if you're not.</p> <p>TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today's question: what stops people? 01:14 Perfectionism: Don's early story 02:34 Steve: getting ready to get ready to get set to get ready 03:17 Mike: fear, doubt, and feeling unworthy as a young athlete 04:39 Mike's brother's intervention, and progress not perfection 07:13 What you feed your mind: Don on self-talk and news 09:26 Thoughts control beliefs, beliefs control actions, actions control results 09:43 You can't delete a thought. You can only replace it 11:20 Fear causes hesitation, hesitation causes your worst fears 13:14 The Tesla Roadster tangent, and 0 to 100 in real life 16:23 Certainty is an illusion 18:00 Testing the idea instead of judging it 19:24 The 72-hour market test, explained 19:58 Mike's rule: the only thing I won't accept is nothing 21:19 Don's negotiating story: $100,000 vs $106,000 24:18 Why community and mentors change the outcome 26:10 "You're a great starter, a terrible finisher" 28:05 Not everyone is meant to launch a business 29:11 The idea was given to you for a reason 31:20 Get compensated for your idea, without building it yourself 32:52 Don't die with the idea inside you 34:49 Take the founder out of the operational role 37:07 What if they all succeed? 39:00 Lessons, not failures: the fly and the window 40:00 Success leaves clues 41:22 Register free at app.forgefireprotocol.com</p> <p>TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://app.forgefireprotocol.com">https://app.forgefireprotocol.com</a> Register for the free version of the app to define your ideal client and run the 72-hour market test. No cost, no catch.</p> <p>GOT AN IDEA YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD YOURSELF? Don and the team are putting together a group that will take validated ideas to market on the idea owner's behalf, with compensation for the idea. Reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.</p> <p>NEXT EPISODE Why coaching matters, and how to find the right coach for your business.</p> <p>Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.</p> <p>Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Don&#39;t Die With the Idea Inside You</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/twhu9tuhere8ckr4qu8442t7-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2393</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 16: You&#39;ve got an idea. You&#39;ve had it a while. So what&#39;s actually stopping you? Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan dig into the real reason good ideas stay stuck in people&#39;s heads: perfectionism, fear, and the self-talk running in the background of every &#34;not yet.&#34;
Register free and test your idea: app.forgefireprotocol.com
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why perfectionism isn&#39;t discipline, it&#39;s a way of never finishing - The three-step process for replacing a negative thought: recognize it, reject it, replace it - Why &#34;progress, not perfection&#34; sounds backwards until it doesn&#39;t - The real reason people hide behind endless planning and call it being realistic - Why certainty is an illusion, and what&#39;s actually certain instead - How to get compensated for a good idea even if you never want to run the business yourself
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;Our goal is progress, not perfection.&#34; Mike &#34;Fear causes hesitation. Hesitation causes your worst fears to come true.&#34; Steve &#34;Don&#39;t, don&#39;t die with the idea inside you.&#34; Don &#34;That certainty is just certain for the same old, same old, which has not got you where you want to go.&#34; Mike &#34;The only thing I will not accept is no-thing.&#34; Mike &#34;Success leaves clues.&#34; Mike
Mike also shares a story from a tough sophomore year in high school and what his brother did about it, and Don explains why not everyone is meant to launch a business themselves, and what to do with your idea if you&#39;re not.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and today&#39;s question: what stops people? 01:14 Perfectionism: Don&#39;s early story 02:34 Steve: getting ready to get ready to get set to get ready 03:17 Mike: fear, doubt, and feeling unworthy as a young athlete 04:39 Mike&#39;s brother&#39;s intervention, and progress not perfection 07:13 What you feed your mind: Don on self-talk and news 09:26 Thoughts control beliefs, beliefs control actions, actions control results 09:43 You can&#39;t delete a thought. You can only replace it 11:20 Fear causes hesitation, hesitation causes your worst fears 13:14 The Tesla Roadster tangent, and 0 to 100 in real life 16:23 Certainty is an illusion 18:00 Testing the idea instead of judging it 19:24 The 72-hour market test, explained 19:58 Mike&#39;s rule: the only thing I won&#39;t accept is nothing 21:19 Don&#39;s negotiating story: $100,000 vs $106,000 24:18 Why community and mentors change the outcome 26:10 &#34;You&#39;re a great starter, a terrible finisher&#34; 28:05 Not everyone is meant to launch a business 29:11 The idea was given to you for a reason 31:20 Get compensated for your idea, without building it yourself 32:52 Don&#39;t die with the idea inside you 34:49 Take the founder out of the operational role 37:07 What if they all succeed? 39:00 Lessons, not failures: the fly and the window 40:00 Success leaves clues 41:22 Register free at app.forgefireprotocol.com
TEST YOUR IDEA, FREE https://app.forgefireprotocol.com Register for the free version of the app to define your ideal client and run the 72-hour market test. No cost, no catch.
GOT AN IDEA YOU DON&#39;T WANT TO BUILD YOURSELF? Don and the team are putting together a group that will take validated ideas to market on the idea owner&#39;s behalf, with compensation for the idea. Reach out through forgefireprotocol.com to start that conversation.
NEXT EPISODE Why coaching matters, and how to find the right coach for your business.
Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/fjd6kd5lfonq54ijc8ewove1/thumbnail-fjd6kd5lfonq54ijc8ewove1.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/fjd6kd5lfonq54ijc8ewove1/thumbnail-fjd6kd5lfonq54ijc8ewove1.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/hsxc9349yqw1w5842iz9uwn3.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/hsxc9349yqw1w5842iz9uwn3.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Stop Losing Leads: Fix These 5 Business Problems</title><description>Missed leads, unclear ideal clients, and a packed calendar can keep your business busy without moving it forward. In Episode 15, Don LaPlume, Michael Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan break down five common business problems—and practical ways to start fixing them.
Learn how to respond to inquiries faster, define your ideal client, reduce time drains, prioritize income-producing activities, and improve customer communication before, during, and after the sale. The team shares real examples, a respectful way to say no, and ideas for using AI and automation to support better business systems.
Take your next step: Join the $10M Challenge https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
In this episode:
Stop letting missed calls and slow follow-up create lost opportunities.
Make your ideal client easier to recognize and refer.
Protect focused time for work that moves revenue forward.
Build a reliable customer follow-up process.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction 00:58 Five recurring business problems 03:02 The callback that built trust 08:39 Initial contact and missed opportunities 20:27 Define your ideal client 26:09 Time drain and protecting focus 28:10 AI and reducing repetitive work 31:36 Income-producing activities 33:43 Saying no respectfully 36:06 Communication throughout the customer relationship 45:20 Progress, not perfection
Which problem will you tackle first? Share this episode with another business owner, follow the podcast, and leave a review wherever you listen. 
Ready to stop losing leads and start building?
Choose one problem from this episode and take one concrete step today. Join the $10M Challenge to get started:
https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f4da2c47-299d-4f55-b0d6-dc160096ec30</guid><pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2026 11:55:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/idb4hi4t1py10a7ndweeqekv.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Missed leads, unclear ideal clients, and a packed calendar can keep your business busy without moving it forward. In Episode 15, Don LaPlume, Michael Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan break down five common business problems—and practical ways to start fixing them.</p> <p>Learn how to respond to inquiries faster, define your ideal client, reduce time drains, prioritize income-producing activities, and improve customer communication before, during, and after the sale. The team shares real examples, a respectful way to say no, and ideas for using AI and automation to support better business systems.</p> <p>Take your next step: Join the $10M Challenge <a href="https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" data-rich-text-autolink= "">https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a></p> <p>In this episode:</p> <ul data-spread="false"> <li> Stop letting missed calls and slow follow-up create lost opportunities. </li> <li> Make your ideal client easier to recognize and refer. </li> <li> Protect focused time for work that moves revenue forward. </li> <li> Build a reliable customer follow-up process. </li> </ul> <p>Chapters:</p> <p>00:00 Introduction 00:58 Five recurring business problems 03:02 The callback that built trust 08:39 Initial contact and missed opportunities 20:27 Define your ideal client 26:09 Time drain and protecting focus 28:10 AI and reducing repetitive work 31:36 Income-producing activities 33:43 Saying no respectfully 36:06 Communication throughout the customer relationship 45:20 Progress, not perfection</p> <p>Which problem will you tackle first? Share this episode with another business owner, follow the podcast, and leave a review wherever you listen. </p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Ready to stop losing leads and start building?</p> <p>Choose one problem from this episode and take one concrete step today. Join the $10M Challenge to get started:</p> <p><a href="https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" data-rich-text-autolink= "">https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a></p> <p>Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Stop Losing Leads: Fix These 5 Business Problems</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/o9o9uokdrzyht4c4io1t7sbl-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2844</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Missed leads, unclear ideal clients, and a packed calendar can keep your business busy without moving it forward. In Episode 15, Don LaPlume, Michael Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan break down five common business problems—and practical ways to start fixing them.
Learn how to respond to inquiries faster, define your ideal client, reduce time drains, prioritize income-producing activities, and improve customer communication before, during, and after the sale. The team shares real examples, a respectful way to say no, and ideas for using AI and automation to support better business systems.
Take your next step: Join the $10M Challenge https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
In this episode:
Stop letting missed calls and slow follow-up create lost opportunities.
Make your ideal client easier to recognize and refer.
Protect focused time for work that moves revenue forward.
Build a reliable customer follow-up process.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction 00:58 Five recurring business problems 03:02 The callback that built trust 08:39 Initial contact and missed opportunities 20:27 Define your ideal client 26:09 Time drain and protecting focus 28:10 AI and reducing repetitive work 31:36 Income-producing activities 33:43 Saying no respectfully 36:06 Communication throughout the customer relationship 45:20 Progress, not perfection
Which problem will you tackle first? Share this episode with another business owner, follow the podcast, and leave a review wherever you listen. 
Ready to stop losing leads and start building?
Choose one problem from this episode and take one concrete step today. Join the $10M Challenge to get started:
https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/a5l1jw7162v4cpdk133er6yz/thumbnail-a5l1jw7162v4cpdk133er6yz.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/a5l1jw7162v4cpdk133er6yz/thumbnail-a5l1jw7162v4cpdk133er6yz.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/idb4hi4t1py10a7ndweeqekv.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/idb4hi4t1py10a7ndweeqekv.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The 10 Questions That Expose Who Your Real Customer Is</title><description>Episode 14 Overview:
Most founders run their 72 hour market test aiming at &#34;anyone with the problem.&#34; That is why the calls go nowhere. Don, Mike, and Steve run a live, unscripted walkthrough of the new Define Your Ideal Client tool inside the Forge Fire Protocol app, the step that comes before the test, not after it. You will watch them answer the AI&#39;s questions in real time, including the one most founders get wrong: the pain has to be something that happened this week, not a feature on a wish list. They land on a complete client brief, down to the exact sentence to use when reaching out to the first 20 people. Free tool, no pitch, built for anyone who has an idea and hasn&#39;t picked up the phone yet.
Show Notes (Timestamped)
00:00 — Intro. Today&#39;s focus: finding your ideal client before anything else.
00:07 — Why this matters now. The hosts share why Forge Fire Protocol wasn&#39;t growing fast enough even with a green 72-hour market test result, and why the missing piece was never the offer; it was the target.
00:11 — Inside the app: the new Define Your Ideal Client tool under the Spark stage, free on every account, built to run before the 72-hour market test.
00:19 — The real question first: is &#34;anyone with an idea&#34; actually the right person to target? The hosts argue most people with ideas never take action on them, so targeting ideas alone isn&#39;t enough.
00:20 — Question 1 live: &#34;In one sentence, what do you sell and what does the buyer walk away with?&#34; Don, Mike, and Steve each answer it differently, and the AI pushes back when the answer runs too long or too wide.
00:27 — Who signs the check. The AI forces a choice between two buyer types instead of letting the hosts hedge with &#34;both.&#34;
00:36 — The pain has to be this week, not someday. The difference between a feature-list answer and a real, present-tense pain point.
00:41 — What happened this Tuesday. A concrete trigger moment beats a vague description of being &#34;stuck,&#34; and the hosts each share their own version of hitting a financial ceiling.
00:45 — How they&#39;re coping today. Most people aren&#39;t using a competitor, they&#39;re just living with the problem, which changes how you pitch them.
01:00 — Finding the first 20 people without spending on ads. Groups, associations, existing networks, and LinkedIn search, in that order.
01:07 — Money and fit. Narrowing a niche down to the people who have both the budget and a reason to act right now.
01:08 — The one-sentence test. The exact line you would use to describe the 20 people you&#39;d reach out to, which becomes your outreach message.
01:10 — The final client brief. The AI compiles every answer into a complete profile: who to contact, where to find them, the opening line to use, and who to avoid.
01:14 — Close. Why this step removes the paralysis of &#34;who do I even call,&#34; and why it challenges you to run this exercise even if you&#39;ve been in business for decades.
Key Quotes
Don LaPlume: &#34;There are people that have phenomenal ideas, and they never take action on those.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;Modern researchers think it&#39;s around about 6,200 thoughts a day. Just think how many ideas are coming through that, that you&#39;re just dismissing.&#34;
Don LaPlume: &#34;A clear client is not a guarantee the idea will work. The test still has to validate, or you pivot, or you kill it.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;Get the thought out, uninterrupted, from mind to digitized output.&#34;
Thomas Steven Moynihan: &#34;There are some people that have that inner drive where they know they can do more and they have that idea. And by not taking action on it, that can gnaw at you inside.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;They&#39;re spending too much of their time in Non-Income Producing Activities (Non-IPA).&#34;</description><guid isPermaLink="false">b54dfe3f-de26-4935-a781-5ba293dfeafc</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2026 05:32:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/po2s59zx8ycan76q3hcbo9v8.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 14 Overview:</p> <p>Most founders run their 72 hour market test aiming at "anyone with the problem." That is why the calls go nowhere. Don, Mike, and Steve run a live, unscripted walkthrough of the new Define Your Ideal Client tool inside the Forge Fire Protocol app, the step that comes before the test, not after it. You will watch them answer the AI's questions in real time, including the one most founders get wrong: the pain has to be something that happened this week, not a feature on a wish list. They land on a complete client brief, down to the exact sentence to use when reaching out to the first 20 people. Free tool, no pitch, built for anyone who has an idea and hasn't picked up the phone yet.</p> <p>Show Notes (Timestamped)</p> <p>00:00 — Intro. Today's focus: finding your ideal client before anything else.</p> <p>00:07 — Why this matters now. The hosts share why Forge Fire Protocol wasn't growing fast enough even with a green 72-hour market test result, and why the missing piece was never the offer; it was the target.</p> <p>00:11 — Inside the app: the new Define Your Ideal Client tool under the Spark stage, free on every account, built to run before the 72-hour market test.</p> <p>00:19 — The real question first: is "anyone with an idea" actually the right person to target? The hosts argue most people with ideas never take action on them, so targeting ideas alone isn't enough.</p> <p>00:20 — Question 1 live: "In one sentence, what do you sell and what does the buyer walk away with?" Don, Mike, and Steve each answer it differently, and the AI pushes back when the answer runs too long or too wide.</p> <p>00:27 — Who signs the check. The AI forces a choice between two buyer types instead of letting the hosts hedge with "both."</p> <p>00:36 — The pain has to be this week, not someday. The difference between a feature-list answer and a real, present-tense pain point.</p> <p>00:41 — What happened this Tuesday. A concrete trigger moment beats a vague description of being "stuck," and the hosts each share their own version of hitting a financial ceiling.</p> <p>00:45 — How they're coping today. Most people aren't using a competitor, they're just living with the problem, which changes how you pitch them.</p> <p>01:00 — Finding the first 20 people without spending on ads. Groups, associations, existing networks, and LinkedIn search, in that order.</p> <p>01:07 — Money and fit. Narrowing a niche down to the people who have both the budget and a reason to act right now.</p> <p>01:08 — The one-sentence test. The exact line you would use to describe the 20 people you'd reach out to, which becomes your outreach message.</p> <p>01:10 — The final client brief. The AI compiles every answer into a complete profile: who to contact, where to find them, the opening line to use, and who to avoid.</p> <p>01:14 — Close. Why this step removes the paralysis of "who do I even call," and why it challenges you to run this exercise even if you've been in business for decades.</p> <p> Key Quotes</p> <p>Don LaPlume: "There are people that have phenomenal ideas, and they never take action on those."</p> <p>Michael Sullivan: "Modern researchers think it's around about 6,200 thoughts a day. Just think how many ideas are coming through that, that you're just dismissing."</p> <p>Don LaPlume: "A clear client is not a guarantee the idea will work. The test still has to validate, or you pivot, or you kill it."</p> <p>Michael Sullivan: "Get the thought out, uninterrupted, from mind to digitized output."</p> <p>Thomas Steven Moynihan: "There are some people that have that inner drive where they know they can do more and they have that idea. And by not taking action on it, that can gnaw at you inside."</p> <p>Michael Sullivan: "They're spending too much of their time in Non-Income Producing Activities (Non-IPA)."</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The 10 Questions That Expose Who Your Real Customer Is</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/nr6b1sdzc4sr6hw9blnu7uk5-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>4247</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 14 Overview:
Most founders run their 72 hour market test aiming at &#34;anyone with the problem.&#34; That is why the calls go nowhere. Don, Mike, and Steve run a live, unscripted walkthrough of the new Define Your Ideal Client tool inside the Forge Fire Protocol app, the step that comes before the test, not after it. You will watch them answer the AI&#39;s questions in real time, including the one most founders get wrong: the pain has to be something that happened this week, not a feature on a wish list. They land on a complete client brief, down to the exact sentence to use when reaching out to the first 20 people. Free tool, no pitch, built for anyone who has an idea and hasn&#39;t picked up the phone yet.
Show Notes (Timestamped)
00:00 — Intro. Today&#39;s focus: finding your ideal client before anything else.
00:07 — Why this matters now. The hosts share why Forge Fire Protocol wasn&#39;t growing fast enough even with a green 72-hour market test result, and why the missing piece was never the offer; it was the target.
00:11 — Inside the app: the new Define Your Ideal Client tool under the Spark stage, free on every account, built to run before the 72-hour market test.
00:19 — The real question first: is &#34;anyone with an idea&#34; actually the right person to target? The hosts argue most people with ideas never take action on them, so targeting ideas alone isn&#39;t enough.
00:20 — Question 1 live: &#34;In one sentence, what do you sell and what does the buyer walk away with?&#34; Don, Mike, and Steve each answer it differently, and the AI pushes back when the answer runs too long or too wide.
00:27 — Who signs the check. The AI forces a choice between two buyer types instead of letting the hosts hedge with &#34;both.&#34;
00:36 — The pain has to be this week, not someday. The difference between a feature-list answer and a real, present-tense pain point.
00:41 — What happened this Tuesday. A concrete trigger moment beats a vague description of being &#34;stuck,&#34; and the hosts each share their own version of hitting a financial ceiling.
00:45 — How they&#39;re coping today. Most people aren&#39;t using a competitor, they&#39;re just living with the problem, which changes how you pitch them.
01:00 — Finding the first 20 people without spending on ads. Groups, associations, existing networks, and LinkedIn search, in that order.
01:07 — Money and fit. Narrowing a niche down to the people who have both the budget and a reason to act right now.
01:08 — The one-sentence test. The exact line you would use to describe the 20 people you&#39;d reach out to, which becomes your outreach message.
01:10 — The final client brief. The AI compiles every answer into a complete profile: who to contact, where to find them, the opening line to use, and who to avoid.
01:14 — Close. Why this step removes the paralysis of &#34;who do I even call,&#34; and why it challenges you to run this exercise even if you&#39;ve been in business for decades.
Key Quotes
Don LaPlume: &#34;There are people that have phenomenal ideas, and they never take action on those.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;Modern researchers think it&#39;s around about 6,200 thoughts a day. Just think how many ideas are coming through that, that you&#39;re just dismissing.&#34;
Don LaPlume: &#34;A clear client is not a guarantee the idea will work. The test still has to validate, or you pivot, or you kill it.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;Get the thought out, uninterrupted, from mind to digitized output.&#34;
Thomas Steven Moynihan: &#34;There are some people that have that inner drive where they know they can do more and they have that idea. And by not taking action on it, that can gnaw at you inside.&#34;
Michael Sullivan: &#34;They&#39;re spending too much of their time in Non-Income Producing Activities (Non-IPA).&#34;</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/obdmudx5h58gfu0fn95l3muc/thumbnail-obdmudx5h58gfu0fn95l3muc.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/obdmudx5h58gfu0fn95l3muc/thumbnail-obdmudx5h58gfu0fn95l3muc.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/po2s59zx8ycan76q3hcbo9v8.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/po2s59zx8ycan76q3hcbo9v8.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>You Built a Job, Not a Business | $10M Exit Math Explained</title><description>Episode 13:
You validated your idea. Now here is the math behind turning it into a $10 million exit. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan break down EBITDA, SDE, MRR, and the multiples that decide what your business is actually worth, and why the founder is usually the thing holding the valuation back.
Haven&#39;t validated an idea yet? Start there: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
WHAT A $10 MILLION EXIT ACTUALLY MEANS A $10 million company is one whose verified recurring revenue, multiplied by the multiple the market pays for that type of business, equals $10 million or more. Change the multiple, or change the revenue, and you change the valuation. This episode breaks down both sides of that equation.
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - EBITDA and SDE: what they mean, and when each one is the right base for your valuation - Why MRR and ARR matter more than one-time revenue, and why 70 percent recurring is the number to hit - The four valuation bands, from a 2X owner-operated service business to a 10X-plus SaaS business, and what moves you from one to the next - Founder elimination and the CEO vacation test: can your business run for two weeks without you - Why $83,000 a month in MRR can be worth the same $10 million as $208,000 a month, depending on your multiple - Why the power of proximity and the right community change what you even know to build toward
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;A $10 million company is one whose verified earnings or recurring revenue, multiplied by a multiple the market pays, equals 10 million or more.&#34; Don &#34;Is that freedom?&#34; Mike. &#34;That leash just gets tighter and tighter and tighter until you learn to let go.&#34; Mike &#34;You can be the reason the business was founded. You can&#39;t be the reason the business exists and continues.&#34; Don &#34;Why spend 5 years building something you could have done in 3 if you just structured it right?&#34; Mike
Steve also shares why he has thought in defined time horizons ever since a leukemia diagnosis and bone marrow transplant 38 years ago, and how that shapes the urgency built into the Forge Fire Protocol.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and the $10 million question 00:34 Why $10 million, and why it matters 03:06 Does it have to be exactly 10 million 04:56 Steve&#39;s story: leukemia, a 10-year plan, and urgency 08:42 Don&#39;s neighbor and the house-flipping model 10:11 Why Mike joined Don: proximity over products 15:11 What a $10 million exit actually means 17:46 &#34;Is that freedom?&#34; 19:40 The dog-leash analogy 21:19 Steve&#39;s commercial lending company and zero freedom 23:48 Why Don built the eliminate-yourself rule into the protocol 25:05 Key terms: EBITDA, SDE, and your base number 28:50 What MRR and ARR need to look like for $10 million 31:53 Retail vs SaaS: why the multiple changes everything 36:35 The four bands: low, mid, upper, high 43:04 The exit value design: why structure beats time 49:08 The 70 percent rule and founder elimination 53:47 The CEO vacation test 54:37 Zero to $4 million in year one: Don&#39;s SaaS story 64:09 What community and mastermind actually give you 65:26 Two clients a month instead of hunting twenty 67:03 Next episode preview
VALIDATE YOUR IDEA FIRST Everything in this episode assumes you already have a validated idea. If you do not yet, the $10 Million Challenge walks you through validating it, then shows you the blueprint to your first profit. forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
NEXT EPISODE Don teaches how independent contractors can build a million-dollar-a-year income, the same training he just gave to a group of 35 people, which doubled from the week before.
Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">eea45126-5a29-4113-ab09-b2498e02959c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 03:57:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/jjn4x2nfwn1azxtjabu6q584.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steve Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 13:</p> <p>You validated your idea. Now here is the math behind turning it into a $10 million exit. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan break down EBITDA, SDE, MRR, and the multiples that decide what your business is actually worth, and why the founder is usually the thing holding the valuation back.</p> <p>Haven't validated an idea yet? Start there: <a title= "Forge Fire Protocol - Thr $10 Million Challenge" href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a></p> <p>WHAT A $10 MILLION EXIT ACTUALLY MEANS A $10 million company is one whose verified recurring revenue, multiplied by the multiple the market pays for that type of business, equals $10 million or more. Change the multiple, or change the revenue, and you change the valuation. This episode breaks down both sides of that equation.</p> <p>WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - EBITDA and SDE: what they mean, and when each one is the right base for your valuation - Why MRR and ARR matter more than one-time revenue, and why 70 percent recurring is the number to hit - The four valuation bands, from a 2X owner-operated service business to a 10X-plus SaaS business, and what moves you from one to the next - Founder elimination and the CEO vacation test: can your business run for two weeks without you - Why $83,000 a month in MRR can be worth the same $10 million as $208,000 a month, depending on your multiple - Why the power of proximity and the right community change what you even know to build toward</p> <p>FROM THE EPISODE "A $10 million company is one whose verified earnings or recurring revenue, multiplied by a multiple the market pays, equals 10 million or more." Don "Is that freedom?" Mike. "That leash just gets tighter and tighter and tighter until you learn to let go." Mike "You can be the reason the business was founded. You can't be the reason the business exists and continues." Don "Why spend 5 years building something you could have done in 3 if you just structured it right?" Mike</p> <p>Steve also shares why he has thought in defined time horizons ever since a leukemia diagnosis and bone marrow transplant 38 years ago, and how that shapes the urgency built into the Forge Fire Protocol.</p> <p>TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and the $10 million question 00:34 Why $10 million, and why it matters 03:06 Does it have to be exactly 10 million 04:56 Steve's story: leukemia, a 10-year plan, and urgency 08:42 Don's neighbor and the house-flipping model 10:11 Why Mike joined Don: proximity over products 15:11 What a $10 million exit actually means 17:46 "Is that freedom?" 19:40 The dog-leash analogy 21:19 Steve's commercial lending company and zero freedom 23:48 Why Don built the eliminate-yourself rule into the protocol 25:05 Key terms: EBITDA, SDE, and your base number 28:50 What MRR and ARR need to look like for $10 million 31:53 Retail vs SaaS: why the multiple changes everything 36:35 The four bands: low, mid, upper, high 43:04 The exit value design: why structure beats time 49:08 The 70 percent rule and founder elimination 53:47 The CEO vacation test 54:37 Zero to $4 million in year one: Don's SaaS story 64:09 What community and mastermind actually give you 65:26 Two clients a month instead of hunting twenty 67:03 Next episode preview</p> <p>VALIDATE YOUR IDEA FIRST Everything in this episode assumes you already have a validated idea. If you do not yet, the $10 Million Challenge walks you through validating it, then shows you the blueprint to your first profit. forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</p> <p>NEXT EPISODE Don teaches how independent contractors can build a million-dollar-a-year income, the same training he just gave to a group of 35 people, which doubled from the week before.</p> <p>Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.</p> <p>Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>You Built a Job, Not a Business | $10M Exit Math Explained</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steve Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/xmdvo6h2qphcva5ggpmfn67g-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3830</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 13:
You validated your idea. Now here is the math behind turning it into a $10 million exit. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan break down EBITDA, SDE, MRR, and the multiples that decide what your business is actually worth, and why the founder is usually the thing holding the valuation back.
Haven&#39;t validated an idea yet? Start there: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
WHAT A $10 MILLION EXIT ACTUALLY MEANS A $10 million company is one whose verified recurring revenue, multiplied by the multiple the market pays for that type of business, equals $10 million or more. Change the multiple, or change the revenue, and you change the valuation. This episode breaks down both sides of that equation.
WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - EBITDA and SDE: what they mean, and when each one is the right base for your valuation - Why MRR and ARR matter more than one-time revenue, and why 70 percent recurring is the number to hit - The four valuation bands, from a 2X owner-operated service business to a 10X-plus SaaS business, and what moves you from one to the next - Founder elimination and the CEO vacation test: can your business run for two weeks without you - Why $83,000 a month in MRR can be worth the same $10 million as $208,000 a month, depending on your multiple - Why the power of proximity and the right community change what you even know to build toward
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;A $10 million company is one whose verified earnings or recurring revenue, multiplied by a multiple the market pays, equals 10 million or more.&#34; Don &#34;Is that freedom?&#34; Mike. &#34;That leash just gets tighter and tighter and tighter until you learn to let go.&#34; Mike &#34;You can be the reason the business was founded. You can&#39;t be the reason the business exists and continues.&#34; Don &#34;Why spend 5 years building something you could have done in 3 if you just structured it right?&#34; Mike
Steve also shares why he has thought in defined time horizons ever since a leukemia diagnosis and bone marrow transplant 38 years ago, and how that shapes the urgency built into the Forge Fire Protocol.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and the $10 million question 00:34 Why $10 million, and why it matters 03:06 Does it have to be exactly 10 million 04:56 Steve&#39;s story: leukemia, a 10-year plan, and urgency 08:42 Don&#39;s neighbor and the house-flipping model 10:11 Why Mike joined Don: proximity over products 15:11 What a $10 million exit actually means 17:46 &#34;Is that freedom?&#34; 19:40 The dog-leash analogy 21:19 Steve&#39;s commercial lending company and zero freedom 23:48 Why Don built the eliminate-yourself rule into the protocol 25:05 Key terms: EBITDA, SDE, and your base number 28:50 What MRR and ARR need to look like for $10 million 31:53 Retail vs SaaS: why the multiple changes everything 36:35 The four bands: low, mid, upper, high 43:04 The exit value design: why structure beats time 49:08 The 70 percent rule and founder elimination 53:47 The CEO vacation test 54:37 Zero to $4 million in year one: Don&#39;s SaaS story 64:09 What community and mastermind actually give you 65:26 Two clients a month instead of hunting twenty 67:03 Next episode preview
VALIDATE YOUR IDEA FIRST Everything in this episode assumes you already have a validated idea. If you do not yet, the $10 Million Challenge walks you through validating it, then shows you the blueprint to your first profit. forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
NEXT EPISODE Don teaches how independent contractors can build a million-dollar-a-year income, the same training he just gave to a group of 35 people, which doubled from the week before.
Subscribe, like, and share the show so you never miss an episode.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/s3pxza9tenpsd8gekzkb8h2x/thumbnail-s3pxza9tenpsd8gekzkb8h2x.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/s3pxza9tenpsd8gekzkb8h2x/thumbnail-s3pxza9tenpsd8gekzkb8h2x.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/jjn4x2nfwn1azxtjabu6q584.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/jjn4x2nfwn1azxtjabu6q584.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Go, Pivot, or Kill: Validate Your Idea. Build Financial Freedom.</title><description>Episode 12: September 28, 2026
Got a business idea? Before you build toward financial freedom, test whether customers want it. Episode 12 explores Forge Fire Protocol&#39;s 72-hour market test and how to decide whether to go, pivot, or kill an idea.
Michael Sullivan, Stephen Moynihan, and Don Laplume unpack the $10M Challenge: choosing an idea, defining the customer, gathering honest feedback, and building with an exit in mind. They also explore how AI and shared systems can help entrepreneurs turn focused action into progress.
IN THIS EPISODE - Why one or two rejections are not enough to judge an idea - Why target customers matter more than friends and family - The hosts&#39; recommendation to speak with 15 to 20 prospects - How to distinguish a weak offer from the wrong audience - Why a pivot can be progress, and when to stop pursuing an idea - How AI can support business execution without pulling you off course
CHAPTERS 00:00 Opening 00:35 What the $10M Challenge is about 03:24 Choosing an idea to test 05:54 Connected businesses, AI, and focus 12:21 Taking action and rethinking time 17:52 The 72-hour market test and exit target 19:33 Using AI to solve business problems 23:24 An example of compressing work with AI 23:54 Persistence and meaningful goals 26:57 Go, pivot, or kill? 30:57 Why friends and family are not the test audience 32:15 Separating your identity from customer feedback 35:16 How to test a different target market 37:24 Challenge recap and invitation 38:37 Test the ideas you have been holding back
QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE &#34;You don&#39;t have to know how you can get there.&#34; &#34;You need to emotionally detach so you can objectively look at it and see everything as constructive.&#34; &#34;If your idea never comes out, those things never happen.&#34;
READY TO TEST YOUR IDEA? Explore the $10M Challenge and check current enrollment details: ForgeFireProtocol.com/Challenge
Subscribe to Forge Fire Protocol and share this episode with an entrepreneur who is ready to test an idea. Leave a review wherever you listen.
Forged in fire. Built for legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">f1c04b58-4273-4acb-912e-4a656ea66112</guid><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 23:47:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/zzeo7s39u023s2f23f16ac9a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 12: September 28, 2026</p> <p>Got a business idea? Before you build toward financial freedom, test whether customers want it. Episode 12 explores Forge Fire Protocol's 72-hour market test and how to decide whether to go, pivot, or kill an idea.</p> <p>Michael Sullivan, Stephen Moynihan, and Don Laplume unpack the $10M Challenge: choosing an idea, defining the customer, gathering honest feedback, and building with an exit in mind. They also explore how AI and shared systems can help entrepreneurs turn focused action into progress.</p> <p>IN THIS EPISODE - Why one or two rejections are not enough to judge an idea - Why target customers matter more than friends and family - The hosts' recommendation to speak with 15 to 20 prospects - How to distinguish a weak offer from the wrong audience - Why a pivot can be progress, and when to stop pursuing an idea - How AI can support business execution without pulling you off course</p> <p>CHAPTERS 00:00 Opening 00:35 What the $10M Challenge is about 03:24 Choosing an idea to test 05:54 Connected businesses, AI, and focus 12:21 Taking action and rethinking time 17:52 The 72-hour market test and exit target 19:33 Using AI to solve business problems 23:24 An example of compressing work with AI 23:54 Persistence and meaningful goals 26:57 Go, pivot, or kill? 30:57 Why friends and family are not the test audience 32:15 Separating your identity from customer feedback 35:16 How to test a different target market 37:24 Challenge recap and invitation 38:37 Test the ideas you have been holding back</p> <p>QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE "You don't have to know how you can get there." "You need to emotionally detach so you can objectively look at it and see everything as constructive." "If your idea never comes out, those things never happen."</p> <p>READY TO TEST YOUR IDEA? Explore the $10M Challenge and check current enrollment details: <a title="Forge Fire Protocol - $10 Million Challenge" href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">ForgeFireProtocol.com/Challenge</a></p> <p>Subscribe to Forge Fire Protocol and share this episode with an entrepreneur who is ready to test an idea. Leave a review wherever you listen.</p> <p>Forged in fire. Built for legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Go, Pivot, or Kill: Validate Your Idea. Build Financial Freedom.</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/dg7phto78qhybu1pt664ehap-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2530</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 12: September 28, 2026
Got a business idea? Before you build toward financial freedom, test whether customers want it. Episode 12 explores Forge Fire Protocol&#39;s 72-hour market test and how to decide whether to go, pivot, or kill an idea.
Michael Sullivan, Stephen Moynihan, and Don Laplume unpack the $10M Challenge: choosing an idea, defining the customer, gathering honest feedback, and building with an exit in mind. They also explore how AI and shared systems can help entrepreneurs turn focused action into progress.
IN THIS EPISODE - Why one or two rejections are not enough to judge an idea - Why target customers matter more than friends and family - The hosts&#39; recommendation to speak with 15 to 20 prospects - How to distinguish a weak offer from the wrong audience - Why a pivot can be progress, and when to stop pursuing an idea - How AI can support business execution without pulling you off course
CHAPTERS 00:00 Opening 00:35 What the $10M Challenge is about 03:24 Choosing an idea to test 05:54 Connected businesses, AI, and focus 12:21 Taking action and rethinking time 17:52 The 72-hour market test and exit target 19:33 Using AI to solve business problems 23:24 An example of compressing work with AI 23:54 Persistence and meaningful goals 26:57 Go, pivot, or kill? 30:57 Why friends and family are not the test audience 32:15 Separating your identity from customer feedback 35:16 How to test a different target market 37:24 Challenge recap and invitation 38:37 Test the ideas you have been holding back
QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE &#34;You don&#39;t have to know how you can get there.&#34; &#34;You need to emotionally detach so you can objectively look at it and see everything as constructive.&#34; &#34;If your idea never comes out, those things never happen.&#34;
READY TO TEST YOUR IDEA? Explore the $10M Challenge and check current enrollment details: ForgeFireProtocol.com/Challenge
Subscribe to Forge Fire Protocol and share this episode with an entrepreneur who is ready to test an idea. Leave a review wherever you listen.
Forged in fire. Built for legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uv0ix9jm91avlqqopefenhss/thumbnail-uv0ix9jm91avlqqopefenhss.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uv0ix9jm91avlqqopefenhss/thumbnail-uv0ix9jm91avlqqopefenhss.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/zzeo7s39u023s2f23f16ac9a.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/zzeo7s39u023s2f23f16ac9a.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Can I Fix This With AI?</title><description>What if every new task in your business started with one question:
Can I fix this with AI?
In this episode of the Forge Fire Protocol Podcast, Michael Sullivan, Don LaPlume, and Steven Moynihan break down how entrepreneurs can use AI agents to automate repetitive work, generate leads, improve follow-up, support employees, and buy back valuable time.
More importantly, they show how to start building an AI agent using normal business language, without needing to be a programmer.
In This Episode You will learn:
• What an AI agent actually is • How to identify tasks that should be automated • How AI can support lead generation, prospecting, follow-up, email, customer service, and reporting • Why your time should be focused on the work only you can do • How to build an AI agent by starting with the outcome you want • Why human review and guardrails still matter • How AI can multiply employees instead of simply replacing them • How small teams can use automation to create significantly more leverage
Key Takeaways Focus on what only you can do. Spend your highest-value time on leadership, relationships, sales, creativity, and decision-making. Systems and automation should increasingly handle repetitive work.
Start with the outcome. You do not need to understand complex technology. Define what you want accomplished, what information the agent should use, and what still requires human approval.
Use AI to multiply your team. The goal is not simply to eliminate jobs. It is to remove low-value repetitive work so people can focus on higher-value responsibilities.
Keep humans in the loop. Review the output, refine the instructions, establish guardrails, then increase automation as confidence grows.
Quotes From the Episode &#34;Your time should be spent on what you&#39;re great at.&#34;
&#34;It is time that I would lose and I can&#39;t get back.&#34;
&#34;There&#39;s no need to be fearful of what can multiply you.&#34;
&#34;All we want you to type is what you want as an outcome.&#34;
&#34;Can I fix this with AI?&#34;
Take the $10M Challenge Have an idea you have been thinking about but have not brought to life?
Join the Forge Fire Protocol $10M Challenge and start turning that idea into a scalable business using the systems, frameworks, and AI tools discussed throughout the Protocol.
https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Build the foundation. Create leverage. Launch the idea. Scale the business.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">0a288089-8c21-4384-ac19-eaf69ab6f517</guid><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:20:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/bjw1kjxikybmv8xcjhybk1du.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if every new task in your business started with one question:</p> <p>Can I fix this with AI?</p> <p>In this episode of the Forge Fire Protocol Podcast, Michael Sullivan, Don LaPlume, and Steven Moynihan break down how entrepreneurs can use AI agents to automate repetitive work, generate leads, improve follow-up, support employees, and buy back valuable time.</p> <p>More importantly, they show how to start building an AI agent using normal business language, without needing to be a programmer.</p> In This Episode <p>You will learn:</p> <p>• What an AI agent actually is • How to identify tasks that should be automated • How AI can support lead generation, prospecting, follow-up, email, customer service, and reporting • Why your time should be focused on the work only you can do • How to build an AI agent by starting with the outcome you want • Why human review and guardrails still matter • How AI can multiply employees instead of simply replacing them • How small teams can use automation to create significantly more leverage</p> Key Takeaways <p>Focus on what only you can do. Spend your highest-value time on leadership, relationships, sales, creativity, and decision-making. Systems and automation should increasingly handle repetitive work.</p> <p>Start with the outcome. You do not need to understand complex technology. Define what you want accomplished, what information the agent should use, and what still requires human approval.</p> <p>Use AI to multiply your team. The goal is not simply to eliminate jobs. It is to remove low-value repetitive work so people can focus on higher-value responsibilities.</p> <p>Keep humans in the loop. Review the output, refine the instructions, establish guardrails, then increase automation as confidence grows.</p> Quotes From the Episode <ul> <li>"Your time should be spent on what you're great at."</li> <li>"It is time that I would lose and I can't get back."</li> <li>"There's no need to be fearful of what can multiply you."</li> <li>"All we want you to type is what you want as an outcome."</li> <li>"Can I fix this with AI?"</li> </ul> Take the $10M Challenge <p>Have an idea you have been thinking about but have not brought to life?</p> <p>Join the Forge Fire Protocol $10M Challenge and start turning that idea into a scalable business using the systems, frameworks, and AI tools discussed throughout the Protocol.</p> <p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge">https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a></p> <p>Build the foundation. Create leverage. Launch the idea. Scale the business.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Can I Fix This With AI?</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/fkmsitdaq6yqukwaw8c92imc-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2811</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>What if every new task in your business started with one question:
Can I fix this with AI?
In this episode of the Forge Fire Protocol Podcast, Michael Sullivan, Don LaPlume, and Steven Moynihan break down how entrepreneurs can use AI agents to automate repetitive work, generate leads, improve follow-up, support employees, and buy back valuable time.
More importantly, they show how to start building an AI agent using normal business language, without needing to be a programmer.
In This Episode You will learn:
• What an AI agent actually is • How to identify tasks that should be automated • How AI can support lead generation, prospecting, follow-up, email, customer service, and reporting • Why your time should be focused on the work only you can do • How to build an AI agent by starting with the outcome you want • Why human review and guardrails still matter • How AI can multiply employees instead of simply replacing them • How small teams can use automation to create significantly more leverage
Key Takeaways Focus on what only you can do. Spend your highest-value time on leadership, relationships, sales, creativity, and decision-making. Systems and automation should increasingly handle repetitive work.
Start with the outcome. You do not need to understand complex technology. Define what you want accomplished, what information the agent should use, and what still requires human approval.
Use AI to multiply your team. The goal is not simply to eliminate jobs. It is to remove low-value repetitive work so people can focus on higher-value responsibilities.
Keep humans in the loop. Review the output, refine the instructions, establish guardrails, then increase automation as confidence grows.
Quotes From the Episode &#34;Your time should be spent on what you&#39;re great at.&#34;
&#34;It is time that I would lose and I can&#39;t get back.&#34;
&#34;There&#39;s no need to be fearful of what can multiply you.&#34;
&#34;All we want you to type is what you want as an outcome.&#34;
&#34;Can I fix this with AI?&#34;
Take the $10M Challenge Have an idea you have been thinking about but have not brought to life?
Join the Forge Fire Protocol $10M Challenge and start turning that idea into a scalable business using the systems, frameworks, and AI tools discussed throughout the Protocol.
https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Build the foundation. Create leverage. Launch the idea. Scale the business.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/m5umzmhas858i8lcd7lrfkn7/thumbnail-m5umzmhas858i8lcd7lrfkn7.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/m5umzmhas858i8lcd7lrfkn7/thumbnail-m5umzmhas858i8lcd7lrfkn7.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/bjw1kjxikybmv8xcjhybk1du.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/bjw1kjxikybmv8xcjhybk1du.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Stop Sitting on Your Business Idea: Join the $10 Million Challenge</title><description>Episode 10: You have an idea, and you have done nothing with it. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan explain why waiting for the perfect time is the biggest lie holding you back, how a 72-hour market test shows whether your idea is marketable, and how the $10 Million Challenge takes you from &#34;someday&#34; to a decision. It starts September 28. Register now: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Five nights. One idea. A clear answer by Thursday: move forward, pivot, or kill it.
REGISTER: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge $9.97. Limited seats. Early registrants get perks.
WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE NIGHTS - You bring one idea. Got five? Pick your best one. - The 72-hour market test looks for proof of customer pain. Is it marketable? You find out. - By Thursday, you decide: move forward, pivot, or kill it. - A live walkthrough of Phase 1 and Phase 2 using a real idea from the hosts - A live mastermind chat, plus a shot at having your idea brainstormed on air (opt in when you register)
You do the work. We give you the system and the tools. Nothing has to be perfect.
AFTER THE CHALLENGE Validated? Then you build. We guide you through starting the business the right way and getting to your first profit, with a goal of 30 days. The plan takes you from a validated idea to a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.
THIS IS FOR YOU IF - You have an idea you keep tucked away - You keep waiting for the right time - You are afraid to make the call - You want a blueprint and someone to walk you through it - You have no idea yet. Don&#39;t take: just being in the room will probably give you 10 other ideas, at least.
THE SCHEDULE All sessions are 8 PM Eastern / 5 PM Pacific, streamed live. Mon, Sept 21: Registration opens Sun, Sept 27: Welcome meeting and ground rules Mon, Sept 28: Phase 1 and Phase 2 Tue, Sept 29: Phase 3, the 72-hour market test Wed, Sept 30: Phase 4 Thu, Oct 1: Recognition for validated ideas, and your next step
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;Nothing&#39;s perfect. And it&#39;s not going to be. So who cares? Stop it.&#34; Don &#34;If you&#39;ve got an idea, do not die with that idea still in your heart.&#34; Don &#34;Stop waiting for the sun to rise. Your breakthrough demands that you do it now.&#34; Steve &#34;That idea is killed. It&#39;s out of the way. Now you get space in your brain for something else.&#34; Don
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and what is coming 01:11 Why it matters: the idea you keep to yourself 04:12 The biggest lie holding entrepreneurs back 05:14 Nothing is perfect: validate first, plus the coffee shop story 12:07 The blueprint: strategy session, 72-hour test, $10 million exit 14:50 The accountability furnace: builders who refuse excuses 16:36 A full website built with AI in 20 minutes 19:51 The $10 Million Challenge: dates and ground rules 22:12 Live brainstorm, the wheel, and the mastermind chat 27:00 More minds, better ideas 29:05 Courage, persistence, and where AI fits 31:53 Why validation is your foundation 33:58 The full schedule, the price, and how each day works 36:38 What you will see live, and decision day 38:51 Pull your ideas out: Don&#39;s flying car story 41:41 Stop waiting for the sun to rise 43:11 The power of proximity (and the floating anvil) 46:03 Register Monday, September 21, and what is next
SAVE YOUR SPOT: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge $9.97. Limited seats. Kickoff is Sunday, September 27 at 8 PM Eastern.
Next episode: The AI Agent Creator inside the Forge Fire Protocol app.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">a051f316-a536-49a0-af80-46063204e1f0</guid><pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:45:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/wujtb79fubmpbf6lvcen0qsp.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 10: You have an idea, and you have done nothing with it. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan explain why waiting for the perfect time is the biggest lie holding you back, how a 72-hour market test shows whether your idea is marketable, and how the $10 Million Challenge takes you from "someday" to a decision. It starts September 28. Register now: <a title= "The $10 Million Challenge" href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a></p> <p>Five nights. One idea. A clear answer by Thursday: move forward, pivot, or kill it.</p> <p>REGISTER: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge $9.97. Limited seats. Early registrants get perks.</p> <p>WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE NIGHTS - You bring one idea. Got five? Pick your best one. - The 72-hour market test looks for proof of customer pain. Is it marketable? You find out. - By Thursday, you decide: move forward, pivot, or kill it. - A live walkthrough of Phase 1 and Phase 2 using a real idea from the hosts - A live mastermind chat, plus a shot at having your idea brainstormed on air (opt in when you register)</p> <p>You do the work. We give you the system and the tools. Nothing has to be perfect.</p> <p>AFTER THE CHALLENGE Validated? Then you build. We guide you through starting the business the right way and getting to your first profit, with a goal of 30 days. The plan takes you from a validated idea to a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.</p> <p>THIS IS FOR YOU IF - You have an idea you keep tucked away - You keep waiting for the right time - You are afraid to make the call - You want a blueprint and someone to walk you through it - You have no idea yet. Don't take: just being in the room will probably give you 10 other ideas, at least.</p> <p>THE SCHEDULE All sessions are 8 PM Eastern / 5 PM Pacific, streamed live. Mon, Sept 21: Registration opens Sun, Sept 27: Welcome meeting and ground rules Mon, Sept 28: Phase 1 and Phase 2 Tue, Sept 29: Phase 3, the 72-hour market test Wed, Sept 30: Phase 4 Thu, Oct 1: Recognition for validated ideas, and your next step</p> <p>FROM THE EPISODE "Nothing's perfect. And it's not going to be. So who cares? Stop it." Don "If you've got an idea, do not die with that idea still in your heart." Don "Stop waiting for the sun to rise. Your breakthrough demands that you do it now." Steve "That idea is killed. It's out of the way. Now you get space in your brain for something else." Don</p> <p>TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and what is coming 01:11 Why it matters: the idea you keep to yourself 04:12 The biggest lie holding entrepreneurs back 05:14 Nothing is perfect: validate first, plus the coffee shop story 12:07 The blueprint: strategy session, 72-hour test, $10 million exit 14:50 The accountability furnace: builders who refuse excuses 16:36 A full website built with AI in 20 minutes 19:51 The $10 Million Challenge: dates and ground rules 22:12 Live brainstorm, the wheel, and the mastermind chat 27:00 More minds, better ideas 29:05 Courage, persistence, and where AI fits 31:53 Why validation is your foundation 33:58 The full schedule, the price, and how each day works 36:38 What you will see live, and decision day 38:51 Pull your ideas out: Don's flying car story 41:41 Stop waiting for the sun to rise 43:11 The power of proximity (and the floating anvil) 46:03 Register Monday, September 21, and what is next</p> <p>SAVE YOUR SPOT: <a title="The $10 Million Challenge" href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/challenge" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">forgefireprotocol.com/challenge</a> $9.97. Limited seats. Kickoff is Sunday, September 27 at 8 PM Eastern.</p> <p>Next episode: The AI Agent Creator inside the Forge Fire Protocol app.</p> <p>Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Stop Sitting on Your Business Idea: Join the $10 Million Challenge</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/k577cytzrvx2z6pxhoognknd-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2676</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 10: You have an idea, and you have done nothing with it. Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan explain why waiting for the perfect time is the biggest lie holding you back, how a 72-hour market test shows whether your idea is marketable, and how the $10 Million Challenge takes you from &#34;someday&#34; to a decision. It starts September 28. Register now: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge
Five nights. One idea. A clear answer by Thursday: move forward, pivot, or kill it.
REGISTER: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge $9.97. Limited seats. Early registrants get perks.
WHAT HAPPENS IN FIVE NIGHTS - You bring one idea. Got five? Pick your best one. - The 72-hour market test looks for proof of customer pain. Is it marketable? You find out. - By Thursday, you decide: move forward, pivot, or kill it. - A live walkthrough of Phase 1 and Phase 2 using a real idea from the hosts - A live mastermind chat, plus a shot at having your idea brainstormed on air (opt in when you register)
You do the work. We give you the system and the tools. Nothing has to be perfect.
AFTER THE CHALLENGE Validated? Then you build. We guide you through starting the business the right way and getting to your first profit, with a goal of 30 days. The plan takes you from a validated idea to a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.
THIS IS FOR YOU IF - You have an idea you keep tucked away - You keep waiting for the right time - You are afraid to make the call - You want a blueprint and someone to walk you through it - You have no idea yet. Don&#39;t take: just being in the room will probably give you 10 other ideas, at least.
THE SCHEDULE All sessions are 8 PM Eastern / 5 PM Pacific, streamed live. Mon, Sept 21: Registration opens Sun, Sept 27: Welcome meeting and ground rules Mon, Sept 28: Phase 1 and Phase 2 Tue, Sept 29: Phase 3, the 72-hour market test Wed, Sept 30: Phase 4 Thu, Oct 1: Recognition for validated ideas, and your next step
FROM THE EPISODE &#34;Nothing&#39;s perfect. And it&#39;s not going to be. So who cares? Stop it.&#34; Don &#34;If you&#39;ve got an idea, do not die with that idea still in your heart.&#34; Don &#34;Stop waiting for the sun to rise. Your breakthrough demands that you do it now.&#34; Steve &#34;That idea is killed. It&#39;s out of the way. Now you get space in your brain for something else.&#34; Don
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Welcome and what is coming 01:11 Why it matters: the idea you keep to yourself 04:12 The biggest lie holding entrepreneurs back 05:14 Nothing is perfect: validate first, plus the coffee shop story 12:07 The blueprint: strategy session, 72-hour test, $10 million exit 14:50 The accountability furnace: builders who refuse excuses 16:36 A full website built with AI in 20 minutes 19:51 The $10 Million Challenge: dates and ground rules 22:12 Live brainstorm, the wheel, and the mastermind chat 27:00 More minds, better ideas 29:05 Courage, persistence, and where AI fits 31:53 Why validation is your foundation 33:58 The full schedule, the price, and how each day works 36:38 What you will see live, and decision day 38:51 Pull your ideas out: Don&#39;s flying car story 41:41 Stop waiting for the sun to rise 43:11 The power of proximity (and the floating anvil) 46:03 Register Monday, September 21, and what is next
SAVE YOUR SPOT: forgefireprotocol.com/challenge $9.97. Limited seats. Kickoff is Sunday, September 27 at 8 PM Eastern.
Next episode: The AI Agent Creator inside the Forge Fire Protocol app.
Forged in Fire. Built for Legacy.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uswlmip6plvbmjbxk0sl0ag4/thumbnail-uswlmip6plvbmjbxk0sl0ag4.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uswlmip6plvbmjbxk0sl0ag4/thumbnail-uswlmip6plvbmjbxk0sl0ag4.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/wujtb79fubmpbf6lvcen0qsp.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/wujtb79fubmpbf6lvcen0qsp.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>The Mastermind: AI Advice from Business Legends</title><description>Episode 9 Summary What if you could ask the greatest business minds in history anything? In this episode, we introduce the AI-powered Mastermind: real advice from legendary investors and founders, built in under 48 hours. Test your idea before you bet your time and money on it.
Key Topics Covered
Getting started free: app.forgefireprotocol.com and the 72-hour market test for validating any idea
The mission: helping 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million valuation by 2031
Rapid iteration: turning &#34;months to years&#34; into &#34;minutes to hours&#34; with AI
The Mastermind launch story: the Mastermind feature, conceived Wednesday night, built and live in 30 hours
Rooted in Napoleon Hill&#39;s mastermind principle from Think and Grow Rich
How it works: type a question, the system auto-assembles advisors (or you pick manually, capped at 7)
Live demo: same idea reframed, showing how advisor selection and advice shift
A transparency feature flagging what an advisor&#39;s expertise is &#34;blind to&#34;
Why honest, brutal feedback beats friends-and-family validation
Notable Quotes &#34;Ideas don&#39;t pay mortgage, because customers do.&#34; &#34;Avoid stupidity rather than seek brilliance.&#34; &#34;The masses do not build a $10 million business. The masses are broke and looking for a lottery ticket.&#34; &#34;The lines are suggestions. They&#39;re not an electric fence where you&#39;re going to get electrocuted if you go over it.&#34; — Mike Sullivan &#34;If you&#39;re not moving, you&#39;re dying. It&#39;s that simple.&#34; — Don LaPlume
Call to Action Have an idea, but don&#39;t know how to build it? Have a new product or service that you are hesitating to bring to market? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit https://app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3a82c755-948f-4240-97f3-904f85151f79</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 17:01:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/z10ftodt2zrnatlt1rpmrxnu.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 9 Summary What if you could ask the greatest business minds in history anything? In this episode, we introduce the AI-powered Mastermind: real advice from legendary investors and founders, built in under 48 hours. Test your idea before you bet your time and money on it.</p> <p>Key Topics Covered</p> <ul> <li>Getting started free: app.forgefireprotocol.com and the 72-hour market test for validating any idea</li> <li>The mission: helping 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million valuation by 2031</li> <li>Rapid iteration: turning "months to years" into "minutes to hours" with AI</li> <li>The Mastermind launch story: the Mastermind feature, conceived Wednesday night, built and live in 30 hours</li> <li>Rooted in Napoleon Hill's mastermind principle from Think and Grow Rich</li> <li>How it works: type a question, the system auto-assembles advisors (or you pick manually, capped at 7)</li> <li>Live demo: same idea reframed, showing how advisor selection and advice shift</li> <li>A transparency feature flagging what an advisor's expertise is "blind to"</li> <li>Why honest, brutal feedback beats friends-and-family validation</li> </ul> <p>Notable Quotes "Ideas don't pay mortgage, because customers do." "Avoid stupidity rather than seek brilliance." "The masses do not build a $10 million business. The masses are broke and looking for a lottery ticket." "The lines are suggestions. They're not an electric fence where you're going to get electrocuted if you go over it." — Mike Sullivan "If you're not moving, you're dying. It's that simple." — Don LaPlume</p> <p>Call to Action Have an idea, but don't know how to build it? Have a new product or service that you are hesitating to bring to market? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit <a title="The Forge Fire Protocol App" href= "https://app.forgefireprotocol.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://app.forgefireprotocol.com</a> to get started.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>The Mastermind: AI Advice from Business Legends</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/uj9538eotn7s0ggdoovvb9sj-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3704</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 9 Summary What if you could ask the greatest business minds in history anything? In this episode, we introduce the AI-powered Mastermind: real advice from legendary investors and founders, built in under 48 hours. Test your idea before you bet your time and money on it.
Key Topics Covered
Getting started free: app.forgefireprotocol.com and the 72-hour market test for validating any idea
The mission: helping 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million valuation by 2031
Rapid iteration: turning &#34;months to years&#34; into &#34;minutes to hours&#34; with AI
The Mastermind launch story: the Mastermind feature, conceived Wednesday night, built and live in 30 hours
Rooted in Napoleon Hill&#39;s mastermind principle from Think and Grow Rich
How it works: type a question, the system auto-assembles advisors (or you pick manually, capped at 7)
Live demo: same idea reframed, showing how advisor selection and advice shift
A transparency feature flagging what an advisor&#39;s expertise is &#34;blind to&#34;
Why honest, brutal feedback beats friends-and-family validation
Notable Quotes &#34;Ideas don&#39;t pay mortgage, because customers do.&#34; &#34;Avoid stupidity rather than seek brilliance.&#34; &#34;The masses do not build a $10 million business. The masses are broke and looking for a lottery ticket.&#34; &#34;The lines are suggestions. They&#39;re not an electric fence where you&#39;re going to get electrocuted if you go over it.&#34; — Mike Sullivan &#34;If you&#39;re not moving, you&#39;re dying. It&#39;s that simple.&#34; — Don LaPlume
Call to Action Have an idea, but don&#39;t know how to build it? Have a new product or service that you are hesitating to bring to market? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit https://app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started.</itunes:summary><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/z10ftodt2zrnatlt1rpmrxnu.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/z10ftodt2zrnatlt1rpmrxnu.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>We Needed a Better Way. So We Built It. Introducing Crushr</title><description>Episode 8 Summary Don, Mike, and Steve unveil Crushr, the first product to come out of the Forge Fire Exchange. Built in under two weeks because existing social media tools were going to cost hundreds to thousands a month, Crushr is a live demonstration of what the Forge Fire Protocol can build when a real problem needs a real solution. The team walks through the platform live, shares how beta access and pricing work, and explains why this same process works for any idea, technical or not.
Key Topics Covered
Why Forge Fire Protocol needed its own social media tool instead of paying for expensive third-party platforms
How Crushr went from a recognized problem to a live, working product in under two weeks
A live walkthrough of Crushr: content ideas, AI-generated posts and images, scheduling, and duplicate-content warnings that help protect your accounts
Why feeding Crushr your company URL changes the quality and relevance of generated content
How beta access works: 50 seats, a $59/month grandfathered price for life, versus a $79.97 public price after beta closes
Two real examples of ideas built through the protocol: a fishing app built by Mike&#39;s 12-year-old son, and a chicken health tracking app Don built for his own flock
How Crushr&#39;s referral system lets users earn 20% commission and potentially cover their own subscription cost
Why rapid iteration and low build costs mean small, specific feature requests can actually get built
The bigger lesson: recognizing a recurring problem at work or in life is often the seed of a marketable idea
Notable Quotes
Mike, on reframing limitations for his kids: he stopped accepting &#34;I can&#39;t&#34; and taught them to add &#34;yet&#34; instead.
Don, on validating an idea: everyday frustrations you run into repeatedly are often a strong signal for something worth building and even selling.
Mike, on the real value of tools like Crushr: it is less about the monthly cost and more about buying back time.
Call to Action Want to see what the Forge Fire Protocol can build for your idea? Get Crushr at CrusherSocial.com (spelled C-R-U-S-H-R, no E). Beta seats are limited to 50 and include a grandfathered price for life. Once beta seats are gone, a waitlist opens until the public launch on October 1.</description><guid isPermaLink="false">3e9e982c-f8bf-4e94-8d44-5da69c363765</guid><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 03:54:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/j5qgmdfxjsgdgdhs8nmfidwd.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 8 Summary Don, Mike, and Steve unveil Crushr, the first product to come out of the Forge Fire Exchange. Built in under two weeks because existing social media tools were going to cost hundreds to thousands a month, Crushr is a live demonstration of what the Forge Fire Protocol can build when a real problem needs a real solution. The team walks through the platform live, shares how beta access and pricing work, and explains why this same process works for any idea, technical or not.</p> <p dir="ltr">Key Topics Covered</p> <ul dir="ltr"> <li>Why Forge Fire Protocol needed its own social media tool instead of paying for expensive third-party platforms</li> <li>How Crushr went from a recognized problem to a live, working product in under two weeks</li> <li>A live walkthrough of Crushr: content ideas, AI-generated posts and images, scheduling, and duplicate-content warnings that help protect your accounts</li> <li>Why feeding Crushr your company URL changes the quality and relevance of generated content</li> <li>How beta access works: 50 seats, a $59/month grandfathered price for life, versus a $79.97 public price after beta closes</li> <li>Two real examples of ideas built through the protocol: a fishing app built by Mike's 12-year-old son, and a chicken health tracking app Don built for his own flock</li> <li>How Crushr's referral system lets users earn 20% commission and potentially cover their own subscription cost</li> <li>Why rapid iteration and low build costs mean small, specific feature requests can actually get built</li> <li>The bigger lesson: recognizing a recurring problem at work or in life is often the seed of a marketable idea</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr">Notable Quotes</p> <ul dir="ltr"> <li>Mike, on reframing limitations for his kids: he stopped accepting "I can't" and taught them to add "yet" instead.</li> <li>Don, on validating an idea: everyday frustrations you run into repeatedly are often a strong signal for something worth building and even selling.</li> <li>Mike, on the real value of tools like Crushr: it is less about the monthly cost and more about buying back time.</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr">Call to Action Want to see what the Forge Fire Protocol can build for your idea? Get Crushr at CrusherSocial.com (spelled C-R-U-S-H-R, no E). Beta seats are limited to 50 and include a grandfathered price for life. Once beta seats are gone, a waitlist opens until the public launch on October 1.</p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>We Needed a Better Way. So We Built It. Introducing Crushr</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/p7talkwrrf8pw755tbll5u8w-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3658</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 8 Summary Don, Mike, and Steve unveil Crushr, the first product to come out of the Forge Fire Exchange. Built in under two weeks because existing social media tools were going to cost hundreds to thousands a month, Crushr is a live demonstration of what the Forge Fire Protocol can build when a real problem needs a real solution. The team walks through the platform live, shares how beta access and pricing work, and explains why this same process works for any idea, technical or not.
Key Topics Covered
Why Forge Fire Protocol needed its own social media tool instead of paying for expensive third-party platforms
How Crushr went from a recognized problem to a live, working product in under two weeks
A live walkthrough of Crushr: content ideas, AI-generated posts and images, scheduling, and duplicate-content warnings that help protect your accounts
Why feeding Crushr your company URL changes the quality and relevance of generated content
How beta access works: 50 seats, a $59/month grandfathered price for life, versus a $79.97 public price after beta closes
Two real examples of ideas built through the protocol: a fishing app built by Mike&#39;s 12-year-old son, and a chicken health tracking app Don built for his own flock
How Crushr&#39;s referral system lets users earn 20% commission and potentially cover their own subscription cost
Why rapid iteration and low build costs mean small, specific feature requests can actually get built
The bigger lesson: recognizing a recurring problem at work or in life is often the seed of a marketable idea
Notable Quotes
Mike, on reframing limitations for his kids: he stopped accepting &#34;I can&#39;t&#34; and taught them to add &#34;yet&#34; instead.
Don, on validating an idea: everyday frustrations you run into repeatedly are often a strong signal for something worth building and even selling.
Mike, on the real value of tools like Crushr: it is less about the monthly cost and more about buying back time.
Call to Action Want to see what the Forge Fire Protocol can build for your idea? Get Crushr at CrusherSocial.com (spelled C-R-U-S-H-R, no E). Beta seats are limited to 50 and include a grandfathered price for life. Once beta seats are gone, a waitlist opens until the public launch on October 1.</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/lidiasfuxae3frea9z0jh6am/thumbnail-lidiasfuxae3frea9z0jh6am.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/lidiasfuxae3frea9z0jh6am/thumbnail-lidiasfuxae3frea9z0jh6am.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/j5qgmdfxjsgdgdhs8nmfidwd.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/j5qgmdfxjsgdgdhs8nmfidwd.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Bricks to Breakthroughs: Struggle Drives Innovation</title><description>Episode 7 Summary This episode is a look back. Don, Mike, and Steve share real stories from their own entrepreneurial pasts, the mistakes, the wasted time, and the lessons that shaped Forge Fire Protocol. They break down why most entrepreneurs try to build everything alone, why that approach fails, and how technology and systems have completely changed the timeline for launching a business today.
Key Topics Covered
Mike&#39;s story of trying to build a consulting business during the Great Recession, and the years lost trying to build a website without the right system or support
Why trying to wear every hat in a business pulls you away from the one thing you&#39;re actually great at
Steve&#39;s story of helping start a community bank in Connecticut in the 1980s, without technology, without a community, and without a blueprint
Why building systems and using AI instead of adding headcount reduces risk and increases predictability
How Forge Fire Protocol went from an idea on June 16, 2026, to a full ecosystem, including the book, the podcast, the App, The Exchange, and tools, in under three months
A preview of two upcoming pieces of the ecosystem: an AI content tool and a marketplace for solutions built inside the Forge
Five fears that keep entrepreneurs stuck, and how the protocol is built to address each one
Why treating mistakes as lessons, not failures, is core to long-term success
The idea that failing to share your knowledge and ideas with others is its own form of selfishness
Notable Quotes
Mike, on his early business struggles: building his consulting company taught him what not to do.
Mike, on reframing failure: he stopped viewing mistakes as failure and started treating them as the building blocks that raise you higher.
Don, on liabilities versus assets: every employee is unpredictable, but a system you build is an asset that compounds over time.
Call to Action Have an idea but don&#39;t know how to build it? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit https://app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started. Founder&#39;s Preview Week ends in 2 days. We&#39;re live Monday, September 7, and Tuesday, September 8, at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, right before doors open to the public on 9/9.
Come meet the co-founders and grab an exclusive offer before launch: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ea259c32-8bb9-4d0c-9c0e-b8af96ff1858</guid><pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 03:53:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/pv487kf9ln32upny5miebnel.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 7 Summary This episode is a look back. Don, Mike, and Steve share real stories from their own entrepreneurial pasts, the mistakes, the wasted time, and the lessons that shaped Forge Fire Protocol. They break down why most entrepreneurs try to build everything alone, why that approach fails, and how technology and systems have completely changed the timeline for launching a business today.</p> <p dir="ltr">Key Topics Covered</p> <ul dir="ltr"> <li>Mike's story of trying to build a consulting business during the Great Recession, and the years lost trying to build a website without the right system or support</li> <li>Why trying to wear every hat in a business pulls you away from the one thing you're actually great at</li> <li>Steve's story of helping start a community bank in Connecticut in the 1980s, without technology, without a community, and without a blueprint</li> <li>Why building systems and using AI instead of adding headcount reduces risk and increases predictability</li> <li>How Forge Fire Protocol went from an idea on June 16, 2026, to a full ecosystem, including the book, the podcast, the App, The Exchange, and tools, in under three months</li> <li>A preview of two upcoming pieces of the ecosystem: an AI content tool and a marketplace for solutions built inside the Forge</li> <li>Five fears that keep entrepreneurs stuck, and how the protocol is built to address each one</li> <li>Why treating mistakes as lessons, not failures, is core to long-term success</li> <li>The idea that failing to share your knowledge and ideas with others is its own form of selfishness</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr">Notable Quotes</p> <ul dir="ltr"> <li>Mike, on his early business struggles: building his consulting company taught him what not to do.</li> <li>Mike, on reframing failure: he stopped viewing mistakes as failure and started treating them as the building blocks that raise you higher.</li> <li>Don, on liabilities versus assets: every employee is unpredictable, but a system you build is an asset that compounds over time.</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr">Call to Action Have an idea but don't know how to build it? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit <a title= "The Forge Fire Protocol App" href= "https://app.forgefireprotocol.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://app.forgefireprotocol.com</a> to get started. Founder's Preview Week ends in 2 days. We're live Monday, September 7, and Tuesday, September 8, at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, right before doors open to the public on 9/9.</p> <p dir="ltr">Come meet the co-founders and grab an exclusive offer before launch: <a title= "Forge Fire Protocol's Founders' Premiere Week" href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Bricks to Breakthroughs: Struggle Drives Innovation</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan and Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/wv3w9cl7wutyxndv9wzjgdyu-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2512</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 7 Summary This episode is a look back. Don, Mike, and Steve share real stories from their own entrepreneurial pasts, the mistakes, the wasted time, and the lessons that shaped Forge Fire Protocol. They break down why most entrepreneurs try to build everything alone, why that approach fails, and how technology and systems have completely changed the timeline for launching a business today.
Key Topics Covered
Mike&#39;s story of trying to build a consulting business during the Great Recession, and the years lost trying to build a website without the right system or support
Why trying to wear every hat in a business pulls you away from the one thing you&#39;re actually great at
Steve&#39;s story of helping start a community bank in Connecticut in the 1980s, without technology, without a community, and without a blueprint
Why building systems and using AI instead of adding headcount reduces risk and increases predictability
How Forge Fire Protocol went from an idea on June 16, 2026, to a full ecosystem, including the book, the podcast, the App, The Exchange, and tools, in under three months
A preview of two upcoming pieces of the ecosystem: an AI content tool and a marketplace for solutions built inside the Forge
Five fears that keep entrepreneurs stuck, and how the protocol is built to address each one
Why treating mistakes as lessons, not failures, is core to long-term success
The idea that failing to share your knowledge and ideas with others is its own form of selfishness
Notable Quotes
Mike, on his early business struggles: building his consulting company taught him what not to do.
Mike, on reframing failure: he stopped viewing mistakes as failure and started treating them as the building blocks that raise you higher.
Don, on liabilities versus assets: every employee is unpredictable, but a system you build is an asset that compounds over time.
Call to Action Have an idea but don&#39;t know how to build it? Forge Fire Protocol gives you the roadmap, the tools, and the community to take it from idea to a $10 million exit. Visit https://app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started. Founder&#39;s Preview Week ends in 2 days. We&#39;re live Monday, September 7, and Tuesday, September 8, at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, right before doors open to the public on 9/9.
Come meet the co-founders and grab an exclusive offer before launch: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/iqbeduyp8vmc4gadw06p7czq/thumbnail-iqbeduyp8vmc4gadw06p7czq.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/iqbeduyp8vmc4gadw06p7czq/thumbnail-iqbeduyp8vmc4gadw06p7czq.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/pv487kf9ln32upny5miebnel.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/pv487kf9ln32upny5miebnel.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Ignite Your Startup for a $10 Million Exit</title><description>Episode 5: Ignite Your Startup for a $10 Million Exit
Most founders skip the one step that would save them years and thousands of dollars: proving the idea before they build it. Mike, Steven, and Don introduce the free 72-hour market test inside app.forgefireprotocol.com, an AI-powered tool that validates your business idea through real customer feedback before you spend a dollar building it. They break down why winging it works right up until it doesn&#39;t, what exit value design actually means, and how AI has cut the cost of launching a business by 90% or more. It&#39;s all part of the ecosystem built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.
This week only: Founders&#39; Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won&#39;t be open again. Join us at https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">66cf3089-58fc-4822-9511-0ebc81a05c8a</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 19:44:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/tfc8htagvsk7ww134tkxyg1f.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 5: Ignite Your Startup for a $10 Million Exit</p> <p dir="ltr">Most founders skip the one step that would save them years and thousands of dollars: proving the idea before they build it. Mike, Steven, and Don introduce the free 72-hour market test inside app.forgefireprotocol.com, an AI-powered tool that validates your business idea through real customer feedback before you spend a dollar building it. They break down why winging it works right up until it doesn't, what exit value design actually means, and how AI has cut the cost of launching a business by 90% or more. It's all part of the ecosystem built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.</p> <p dir="ltr">This week only: Founders' Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won't be open again. Join us at <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Ignite Your Startup for a $10 Million Exit</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/oiy4fq924aym4m93gs05a65g-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2435</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 5: Ignite Your Startup for a $10 Million Exit
Most founders skip the one step that would save them years and thousands of dollars: proving the idea before they build it. Mike, Steven, and Don introduce the free 72-hour market test inside app.forgefireprotocol.com, an AI-powered tool that validates your business idea through real customer feedback before you spend a dollar building it. They break down why winging it works right up until it doesn&#39;t, what exit value design actually means, and how AI has cut the cost of launching a business by 90% or more. It&#39;s all part of the ecosystem built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million exit in 3 to 5 years.
This week only: Founders&#39; Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won&#39;t be open again. Join us at https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/yi3rss5aceoekd1wsy50rmke/thumbnail-yi3rss5aceoekd1wsy50rmke.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/yi3rss5aceoekd1wsy50rmke/thumbnail-yi3rss5aceoekd1wsy50rmke.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/tfc8htagvsk7ww134tkxyg1f.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/tfc8htagvsk7ww134tkxyg1f.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Announcing the $10 Million Challenge: Your Path to a Life Changing Exit</title><description>Episode 6: Announcing the $10 Million Challenge: Your Path to a Life-Changing Exit
Don, Mike, and Steve officially announce the $10 Million Challenge: a structured program built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million business exit in 3 to 5 years. It launches September 9, 2026, backed by a proven blueprint, accountability systems, masterminds, and the full Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, including an interactive book, app, and academy. Entry starts at $1. No excuses, no shortcuts. Validate your idea, follow the system, take decisive action, and build a legacy that lasts. Visit app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started today.
This week only: Founders&#39; Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won&#39;t be open again. Join us at https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">44fc7c18-a538-4e72-9d89-b55e05d84f43</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/r6qpxtg5qhc3ey8q7wt6j82x.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Episode 6: Announcing the $10 Million Challenge: Your Path to a Life-Changing Exit</p> <p>Don, Mike, and Steve officially announce the $10 Million Challenge: a structured program built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million business exit in 3 to 5 years. It launches September 9, 2026, backed by a proven blueprint, accountability systems, masterminds, and the full Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, including an interactive book, app, and academy. Entry starts at $1. No excuses, no shortcuts. Validate your idea, follow the system, take decisive action, and build a legacy that lasts. Visit app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started today.</p> <p>This week only: Founders' Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won't be open again. Join us at <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Announcing the $10 Million Challenge: Your Path to a Life Changing Exit</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/zna2gzcb2zya6lvdhgwxlhgd-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2190</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 6: Announcing the $10 Million Challenge: Your Path to a Life-Changing Exit
Don, Mike, and Steve officially announce the $10 Million Challenge: a structured program built to help 10,000 entrepreneurs reach a $10 million business exit in 3 to 5 years. It launches September 9, 2026, backed by a proven blueprint, accountability systems, masterminds, and the full Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, including an interactive book, app, and academy. Entry starts at $1. No excuses, no shortcuts. Validate your idea, follow the system, take decisive action, and build a legacy that lasts. Visit app.forgefireprotocol.com to get started today.
This week only: Founders&#39; Preview Week is live. Get real-time, interactive access to the co-founders, ask your questions directly, and see the ecosystem before anyone else does. This kind of access won&#39;t be open again. Join us at https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uwvi6qli5rniwmbqfteelokp/thumbnail-uwvi6qli5rniwmbqfteelokp.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/uwvi6qli5rniwmbqfteelokp/thumbnail-uwvi6qli5rniwmbqfteelokp.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/r6qpxtg5qhc3ey8q7wt6j82x.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/r6qpxtg5qhc3ey8q7wt6j82x.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Building an App Live with AI: Cutting Software Costs in Forge Fire Protocol</title><description>Episode 4: Building an App Live with AI: Cutting Software Costs in Forge Fire Protocol AI just changed what one person can build alone, and this episode shows it in real time. Don kicks things off by building a working app live using AI, proving the point instead of just talking about it. Then he and Mike hand you the free Business Tech Stack Planner, so you can map your own domain, email, branding, and software costs before spending a dollar.
Then comes the big one: a first look inside the actual Forge Fire Protocol platform. The dashboard, the scorecards, the Prompt Forge, and the rank system that tracks your climb from Spark all the way to your $10M Ascend.
If you&#39;ve been wondering what&#39;s actually inside the Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, this is the episode that shows you.
We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">18744402-fb19-44db-81b2-78474e9bd6e1</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 15:24:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/c7fqv2kf2zg78vzv0ih8g4cl.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 4: Building an App Live with AI: Cutting Software Costs in Forge Fire Protocol AI just changed what one person can build alone, and this episode shows it in real time. Don kicks things off by building a working app live using AI, proving the point instead of just talking about it. Then he and Mike hand you the free Business Tech Stack Planner, so you can map your own domain, email, branding, and software costs before spending a dollar.</p> <p dir="ltr">Then comes the big one: a first look inside the actual Forge Fire Protocol platform. The dashboard, the scorecards, the Prompt Forge, and the rank system that tracks your climb from Spark all the way to your $10M Ascend.</p> <p dir="ltr">If you've been wondering what's actually inside the Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, this is the episode that shows you.</p> <p dir="ltr">We're going live for Founder's Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Building an App Live with AI: Cutting Software Costs in Forge Fire Protocol</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/ussziedtkmswe2aicah3wlau-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3407</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 4: Building an App Live with AI: Cutting Software Costs in Forge Fire Protocol AI just changed what one person can build alone, and this episode shows it in real time. Don kicks things off by building a working app live using AI, proving the point instead of just talking about it. Then he and Mike hand you the free Business Tech Stack Planner, so you can map your own domain, email, branding, and software costs before spending a dollar.
Then comes the big one: a first look inside the actual Forge Fire Protocol platform. The dashboard, the scorecards, the Prompt Forge, and the rank system that tracks your climb from Spark all the way to your $10M Ascend.
If you&#39;ve been wondering what&#39;s actually inside the Forge Fire Protocol ecosystem, this is the episode that shows you.
We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/hh36lu9lgz69w6cebqxez3d4/thumbnail-hh36lu9lgz69w6cebqxez3d4.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/hh36lu9lgz69w6cebqxez3d4/thumbnail-hh36lu9lgz69w6cebqxez3d4.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/c7fqv2kf2zg78vzv0ih8g4cl.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/c7fqv2kf2zg78vzv0ih8g4cl.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Decoding Your Score: The 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business</title><description>Episode 3: Decoding Your Score: The 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business
The last episode gave you the scorecard. This one shows you what to actually do with the number you get.
Don LaPlume and Michael Sullivan go the full distance through the 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business, this time walking the complete scorecard end to end, including the total score and what it means. Score 50 or higher, and you move straight to the 72-Hour Market Test. Land in the 40s and it&#39;s a refine-or-pivot situation. Fall below 40, and you just saved yourself from building the wrong thing.
They break down why the total matters more than any single trait, and what separates founders who waste years on the wrong idea from the ones who find out fast.
If you scored your idea after the last episode, this is where you find out what that number actually means, and what to do next. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">00eb142e-7f96-41b3-84ae-1b585a61cd72</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 15:23:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/jgt6qzwn0384kzvso2d9ipoj.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 3: Decoding Your Score: The 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business</p> <p dir="ltr">The last episode gave you the scorecard. This one shows you what to actually do with the number you get.</p> <p dir="ltr">Don LaPlume and Michael Sullivan go the full distance through the 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business, this time walking the complete scorecard end to end, including the total score and what it means. Score 50 or higher, and you move straight to the 72-Hour Market Test. Land in the 40s and it's a refine-or-pivot situation. Fall below 40, and you just saved yourself from building the wrong thing.</p> <p dir="ltr">They break down why the total matters more than any single trait, and what separates founders who waste years on the wrong idea from the ones who find out fast.</p> <p dir="ltr">If you scored your idea after the last episode, this is where you find out what that number actually means, and what to do next. We're going live for Founder's Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Decoding Your Score: The 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/uemymyb2iyln64t6nwsec3go-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2020</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 3: Decoding Your Score: The 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business
The last episode gave you the scorecard. This one shows you what to actually do with the number you get.
Don LaPlume and Michael Sullivan go the full distance through the 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business, this time walking the complete scorecard end to end, including the total score and what it means. Score 50 or higher, and you move straight to the 72-Hour Market Test. Land in the 40s and it&#39;s a refine-or-pivot situation. Fall below 40, and you just saved yourself from building the wrong thing.
They break down why the total matters more than any single trait, and what separates founders who waste years on the wrong idea from the ones who find out fast.
If you scored your idea after the last episode, this is where you find out what that number actually means, and what to do next. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/kq1t6erex5v43j94yblmvs7z/thumbnail-kq1t6erex5v43j94yblmvs7z.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/kq1t6erex5v43j94yblmvs7z/thumbnail-kq1t6erex5v43j94yblmvs7z.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/jgt6qzwn0384kzvso2d9ipoj.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/jgt6qzwn0384kzvso2d9ipoj.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business (Recurring Revenue + Defensible Moat)</title><description>Episode 2: 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business (Recurring Revenue + Defensible Moat)
A great idea and a great business are not the same thing. Most founders don&#39;t find out which one they&#39;re sitting on until they&#39;ve already sunk years into it.
In this episode, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan pick up right where the last conversation left off and hand you the exact tool the Forge Fire Protocol team uses to make that call fast: the 7 Characteristics of a $10M-Exit Business scorecard.
They walk through it live, breaking down the traits that separate a business worth building from one that quietly wastes years of your life: real willingness to pay, recurring revenue, low overhead, AI-leveraged delivery, and defensible positioning. Score 50 or higher, and it earns a real shot. Anything less, and you just saved yourself years.
If you&#39;ve got an idea you&#39;re not sure about, or a business you&#39;re already in and starting to question, this episode gives you the scorecard to find out before you go any further. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">e9fa1f81-6fea-4778-b0e3-b47f118c5150</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 15:22:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/gg02xs9ifia5um2efxvhrsvx.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 2: 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business (Recurring Revenue + Defensible Moat)</p> <p dir="ltr">A great idea and a great business are not the same thing. Most founders don't find out which one they're sitting on until they've already sunk years into it.</p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan pick up right where the last conversation left off and hand you the exact tool the Forge Fire Protocol team uses to make that call fast: the 7 Characteristics of a $10M-Exit Business scorecard.</p> <p dir="ltr">They walk through it live, breaking down the traits that separate a business worth building from one that quietly wastes years of your life: real willingness to pay, recurring revenue, low overhead, AI-leveraged delivery, and defensible positioning. Score 50 or higher, and it earns a real shot. Anything less, and you just saved yourself years.</p> <p dir="ltr">If you've got an idea you're not sure about, or a business you're already in and starting to question, this episode gives you the scorecard to find out before you go any further. We're going live for Founder's Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business (Recurring Revenue + Defensible Moat)</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/ymqdsjx1j685mivc7dh3oguh-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2023</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 2: 7 Traits of a $10M-Exit Business (Recurring Revenue + Defensible Moat)
A great idea and a great business are not the same thing. Most founders don&#39;t find out which one they&#39;re sitting on until they&#39;ve already sunk years into it.
In this episode, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steve Moynihan pick up right where the last conversation left off and hand you the exact tool the Forge Fire Protocol team uses to make that call fast: the 7 Characteristics of a $10M-Exit Business scorecard.
They walk through it live, breaking down the traits that separate a business worth building from one that quietly wastes years of your life: real willingness to pay, recurring revenue, low overhead, AI-leveraged delivery, and defensible positioning. Score 50 or higher, and it earns a real shot. Anything less, and you just saved yourself years.
If you&#39;ve got an idea you&#39;re not sure about, or a business you&#39;re already in and starting to question, this episode gives you the scorecard to find out before you go any further. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/sqhku6yh4rbu7xzmp7bedfc5/thumbnail-sqhku6yh4rbu7xzmp7bedfc5.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/sqhku6yh4rbu7xzmp7bedfc5/thumbnail-sqhku6yh4rbu7xzmp7bedfc5.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/gg02xs9ifia5um2efxvhrsvx.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/gg02xs9ifia5um2efxvhrsvx.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Spark: Idea Validation and the First Step Toward a $10M+ Business Exit Strategy</title><description>Episode 1: Spark: Idea Validation and the First Step Toward a $10M+ Business Exit Strategy
Every successful business exit strategy starts with a single moment: the decision to move from dreaming to doing. In this premiere episode of the Forge Fire Protocol podcast, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan reveal why idea validation is the crucial first move before you build anything, and how skipping this step can stop your journey from idea to income before it begins.
Discover what truly separates a fleeting spark from a business built for a life-changing exit. Learn why relying on &#39;I think this could work&#39; isn&#39;t enough, and how the Forge Fire Protocol framework guides founders from raw idea all the way to a $10,000,000+ exit. If you&#39;re sitting on a business idea or already building and wondering if you missed something vital, this episode will show you how proper idea validation is the foundation of every winning business exit strategy, and the key to turning your idea into real income. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</description><guid isPermaLink="false">ea0f9f02-c049-41e2-a6c7-6ce0de97de73</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 15:20:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/g7bnu2l2fv7oraw239kzzo15.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p dir="ltr">Episode 1: Spark: Idea Validation and the First Step Toward a $10M+ Business Exit Strategy</p> <p>Every successful business exit strategy starts with a single moment: the decision to move from dreaming to doing. In this premiere episode of the Forge Fire Protocol podcast, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan reveal why idea validation is the crucial first move before you build anything, and how skipping this step can stop your journey from idea to income before it begins.</p> <p>Discover what truly separates a fleeting spark from a business built for a life-changing exit. Learn why relying on 'I think this could work' isn't enough, and how the Forge Fire Protocol framework guides founders from raw idea all the way to a $10,000,000+ exit. If you're sitting on a business idea or already building and wondering if you missed something vital, this episode will show you how proper idea validation is the foundation of every winning business exit strategy, and the key to turning your idea into real income. We're going live for Founder's Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: <a href= "https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp">https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Spark: Idea Validation and the First Step Toward a $10M+ Business Exit Strategy</itunes:title><itunes:author>Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, Steven Moynihan</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/v3-imports/images/mqyolndg67wtaggdoi2iubdj/koiucvsyyrc05sok8togsu89-cover.png"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2014</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:summary>Episode 1: Spark: Idea Validation and the First Step Toward a $10M+ Business Exit Strategy
Every successful business exit strategy starts with a single moment: the decision to move from dreaming to doing. In this premiere episode of the Forge Fire Protocol podcast, Don LaPlume, Mike Sullivan, and Steven Moynihan reveal why idea validation is the crucial first move before you build anything, and how skipping this step can stop your journey from idea to income before it begins.
Discover what truly separates a fleeting spark from a business built for a life-changing exit. Learn why relying on &#39;I think this could work&#39; isn&#39;t enough, and how the Forge Fire Protocol framework guides founders from raw idea all the way to a $10,000,000+ exit. If you&#39;re sitting on a business idea or already building and wondering if you missed something vital, this episode will show you how proper idea validation is the foundation of every winning business exit strategy, and the key to turning your idea into real income. We&#39;re going live for Founder&#39;s Preview Week, Monday through Thursday at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, and Saturday at 10AM ET, ahead of officially opening our doors on 9/9. Join us here: https://forgefireprotocol.com/fp</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/cwlebs00cgz98ayp7l6zv96i/thumbnail-cwlebs00cgz98ayp7l6zv96i.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://assets.flightcast.com/V2Uploads/wwix8pk9l3exyoejvrn7icn3/cwlebs00cgz98ayp7l6zv96i/thumbnail-cwlebs00cgz98ayp7l6zv96i.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://rss.flightcast.com/transcripts/g7bnu2l2fv7oraw239kzzo15.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/g7bnu2l2fv7oraw239kzzo15.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Igniting Entrepreneurial Philosophy: The Forge Fire Protocol Origins</title><description>Episode 0: Igniting Entrepreneurial Philosophy: The Forge Fire Protocol Origins Before the official launch of Forge Fire Protocol, co-founders Don, Mike, and Steve come together for an unfiltered conversation that dives deep into entrepreneurial philosophy and the real challenges of building a profitable business. This is the story behind the Forge Fire Protocol: the frustrations of watching entrepreneurs struggle in isolation, the hard-won lessons from failures, and the pivotal moment when three founders decided to forge a new path.
Don shares the systems and frameworks from his book and his journey of starting 9 companies—including one that soared to an eight-figure valuation in under a year. Mike brings 25 years of IT executive experience, a passion for building technology businesses, and a proven record of making companies stronger, including 17 years running a successful tech firm. Steve offers a unique perspective shaped by his banking background and a life-changing battle with a terminal diagnosis, reminding us that every decision matters—there is no tomorrow, only today.
Together, they reveal the philosophy driving Forge Fire Protocol: entrepreneurs don&#39;t need another generic playbook—they need a protocol forged from real experience, real risk, and real stakes with an exit value design. Get an exclusive first look at what&#39;s ahead, including the frameworks that take you from validatd ideal to exit. Whether you&#39;re launching your first venture or scaling your business toward a meaningful exit, this show is built for entrepreneurs at every stage.
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Don shares the systems and frameworks from his book and his journey of starting 9 companies—including one that soared to an eight-figure valuation in under a year. Mike brings 25 years of IT executive experience, a passion for building technology businesses, and a proven record of making companies stronger, including 17 years running a successful tech firm. Steve offers a unique perspective shaped by his banking background and a life-changing battle with a terminal diagnosis, reminding us that every decision matters—there is no tomorrow, only today.
Together, they reveal the philosophy driving Forge Fire Protocol: entrepreneurs don&#39;t need another generic playbook—they need a protocol forged from real experience, real risk, and real stakes with an exit value design. Get an exclusive first look at what&#39;s ahead, including the frameworks that take you from validatd ideal to exit. Whether you&#39;re launching your first venture or scaling your business toward a meaningful exit, this show is built for entrepreneurs at every stage.
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