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Hosted by Ben Andrews, we unpack the learnings you only get from walking the path yourself, and normalise the doubts and pressures that rarely get airtime.


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Hosted by Ben Andrews, we unpack the learnings you only get from walking the path yourself, and normalise the doubts and pressures that rarely get airtime.


If you&#39;re building something, leading a team, or carrying the responsibility that comes with owning a business, subscribe and join the journey.</itunes:summary><itunes:subtitle>Conversations with founders, operators, and investors</itunes:subtitle><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:keywords>founders, entrepreneurship, startups, business growth, operators, investors, venture capital, business podcast, founder stories</itunes:keywords><itunes:category text="Business"></itunes:category><podcast:locked owner="team@atthetopwithben.com">no</podcast:locked><item><title>I ignored 99% of potential clients... and scaled faster than my competitors</title><description>Most mortgage brokers try to serve everyone. Andrew Johnson built a multimillion dollar business by deliberately ignoring 99% of potential clients.
Andrew is the founder of Legal Home Loans, a mortgage broking business which only serves lawyers, judges and barristerrs. Instead of competing in a market with 22,000 other brokers, decided to focus exclusively on lawyers. In a country with 14.7 million employed people and just under 100,000 lawyers, he chose to serve less than 1% of the market. The result? Faster growth, deeper expertise, and a business model that allowed him to step away for two years while the company thrived.
In this conversation, Andrew shares what actually happens when you niche down hard, why trying to serve everyone dilutes your ability to serve anyone well, and how choosing a narrow market allowed him to build trust, scale faster, and create a business that didn&#39;t depend on him being in the room. He also opens up about burnout, the 18 month process he used to step away from the business, and what he learned about purpose, delegation, and building a company that works without you.
He explains:
Why ignoring 99% of potential clients was the smartest business decision he ever made
How niching down made marketing, messaging, and client acquisition dramatically easier
The difference between going shallow across a broad market versus deep in a narrow one
What he learned from a painful early exit
The 18 month process he used to step away from his business for two years without it falling apart
What structures, incentives, and culture had to be in place before he could leave
Why trust, not systems, was the number one thing that allowed him to step back
What he discovered about purpose after achieving the freedom he thought he wanted
Why he&#39;s now expanding into accounting, and how to know when your niche is tapped out
If you&#39;ve been trying to serve everyone and wondering why growth feels so hard, or if you&#39;re burnt out and can&#39;t imagine stepping away from your business for even a week, this episode will change how you think about focus, delegation, and what it really takes to build something sustainable.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:48 The Power of Niching: Why Ignore 99% of Your Market?
00:04:24 Standing Out in a Crowded Market of 22,000 Brokers
00:05:58 Opening Doors: How Niching Unlocked Partnerships
00:07:00 The Marketing Strategy That Replaced Word of Mouth
00:07:47 Go All In: Making the Niche Decision
00:10:27 The First Business: Lessons from a Partnership Gone Wrong
00:13:06 Values Alignment: The Non-Negotiable for Shareholders
00:15:38 Burnout and the Decision to Step Away
00:17:49 Building a Business That Runs Without You
00:19:02 Culture First: Why All Ships Rise on a Rising Tide
00:23:50 The Founder&#39;s Dilemma: Are You Doing Too Much?
00:26:55 Finding Purpose: Why Andrew Came Back
00:28:17 Expanding the Niche: Launching Accounting Home Loans
00:31:03 Final Advice: Your Trajectory Can Change in a Second

We&#39;re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.
Andrew Johnson:
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-075559a5/
Legal Home Loans https://www.legalhomeloans.com.au
At The Top
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KWP1J9HDTDT8F94JG6ST3995</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KWP1J9HD0S8B8JMGT11EC5GM.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Most mortgage brokers try to serve everyone. Andrew Johnson built a multimillion dollar business by deliberately ignoring 99% of potential clients.</p><p class="text-node">Andrew is the founder of Legal Home Loans, a mortgage broking business which only serves lawyers, judges and barristerrs. Instead of competing in a market with 22,000 other brokers, decided to focus exclusively on lawyers. In a country with 14.7 million employed people and just under 100,000 lawyers, he chose to serve less than 1% of the market. The result? Faster growth, deeper expertise, and a business model that allowed him to step away for two years while the company thrived.</p><p class="text-node">In this conversation, Andrew shares what actually happens when you niche down hard, why trying to serve everyone dilutes your ability to serve anyone well, and how choosing a narrow market allowed him to build trust, scale faster, and create a business that didn't depend on him being in the room. He also opens up about burnout, the 18 month process he used to step away from the business, and what he learned about purpose, delegation, and building a company that works without you.</p><p class="text-node">He explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why ignoring 99% of potential clients was the smartest business decision he ever made</li><li class="list-item-node">How niching down made marketing, messaging, and client acquisition dramatically easier</li><li class="list-item-node">The difference between going shallow across a broad market versus deep in a narrow one</li><li class="list-item-node">What he learned from a painful early exit</li><li class="list-item-node">The 18 month process he used to step away from his business for two years without it falling apart</li><li class="list-item-node">What structures, incentives, and culture had to be in place before he could leave</li><li class="list-item-node">Why trust, not systems, was the number one thing that allowed him to step back</li><li class="list-item-node">What he discovered about purpose after achieving the freedom he thought he wanted</li><li class="list-item-node">Why he's now expanding into accounting, and how to know when your niche is tapped out</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you've been trying to serve everyone and wondering why growth feels so hard, or if you're burnt out and can't imagine stepping away from your business for even a week, this episode will change how you think about focus, delegation, and what it really takes to build something sustainable.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:01:48</strong> The Power of Niching: Why Ignore 99% of Your Market?</li><li><strong>00:04:24</strong> Standing Out in a Crowded Market of 22,000 Brokers</li><li><strong>00:05:58</strong> Opening Doors: How Niching Unlocked Partnerships</li><li><strong>00:07:00</strong> The Marketing Strategy That Replaced Word of Mouth</li><li><strong>00:07:47</strong> Go All In: Making the Niche Decision</li><li><strong>00:10:27</strong> The First Business: Lessons from a Partnership Gone Wrong</li><li><strong>00:13:06</strong> Values Alignment: The Non-Negotiable for Shareholders</li><li><strong>00:15:38</strong> Burnout and the Decision to Step Away</li><li><strong>00:17:49</strong> Building a Business That Runs Without You</li><li><strong>00:19:02</strong> Culture First: Why All Ships Rise on a Rising Tide</li><li><strong>00:23:50</strong> The Founder's Dilemma: Are You Doing Too Much?</li><li><strong>00:26:55</strong> Finding Purpose: Why Andrew Came Back</li><li><strong>00:28:17</strong> Expanding the Niche: Launching Accounting Home Loans</li><li><strong>00:31:03</strong> Final Advice: Your Trajectory Can Change in a Second</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Andrew Johnson:<br>LinkedIn <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-075559a5/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-075559a5/</a><br>Legal Home Loans <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.legalhomeloans.com.au">https://www.legalhomeloans.com.au</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>I ignored 99% of potential clients... and scaled faster than my competitors</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7Z0XKW764XNFEXSE95CMF/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1946</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>Most mortgage brokers try to serve everyone. Andrew Johnson built a multimillion dollar business by deliberately ignoring 99% of potential clients.
Andrew is the founder of Legal Home Loans, a mortgage broking business which only serves lawyers, judges and barristerrs. Instead of competing in a market with 22,000 other brokers, decided to focus exclusively on lawyers. In a country with 14.7 million employed people and just under 100,000 lawyers, he chose to serve less than 1% of the market. The result? Faster growth, deeper expertise, and a business model that allowed him to step away for two years while the company thrived.
In this conversation, Andrew shares what actually happens when you niche down hard, why trying to serve everyone dilutes your ability to serve anyone well, and how choosing a narrow market allowed him to build trust, scale faster, and create a business that didn&#39;t depend on him being in the room. He also opens up about burnout, the 18 month process he used to step away from the business, and what he learned about purpose, delegation, and building a company that works without you.
He explains:
Why ignoring 99% of potential clients was the smartest business decision he ever made
How niching down made marketing, messaging, and client acquisition dramatically easier
The difference between going shallow across a broad market versus deep in a narrow one
What he learned from a painful early exit
The 18 month process he used to step away from his business for two years without it falling apart
What structures, incentives, and culture had to be in place before he could leave
Why trust, not systems, was the number one thing that allowed him to step back
What he discovered about purpose after achieving the freedom he thought he wanted
Why he&#39;s now expanding into accounting, and how to know when your niche is tapped out
If you&#39;ve been trying to serve everyone and wondering why growth feels so hard, or if you&#39;re burnt out and can&#39;t imagine stepping away from your business for even a week, this episode will change how you think about focus, delegation, and what it really takes to build something sustainable.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:48 The Power of Niching: Why Ignore 99% of Your Market?
00:04:24 Standing Out in a Crowded Market of 22,000 Brokers
00:05:58 Opening Doors: How Niching Unlocked Partnerships
00:07:00 The Marketing Strategy That Replaced Word of Mouth
00:07:47 Go All In: Making the Niche Decision
00:10:27 The First Business: Lessons from a Partnership Gone Wrong
00:13:06 Values Alignment: The Non-Negotiable for Shareholders
00:15:38 Burnout and the Decision to Step Away
00:17:49 Building a Business That Runs Without You
00:19:02 Culture First: Why All Ships Rise on a Rising Tide
00:23:50 The Founder&#39;s Dilemma: Are You Doing Too Much?
00:26:55 Finding Purpose: Why Andrew Came Back
00:28:17 Expanding the Niche: Launching Accounting Home Loans
00:31:03 Final Advice: Your Trajectory Can Change in a Second

We&#39;re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.
Andrew Johnson:
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-075559a5/
Legal Home Loans https://www.legalhomeloans.com.au
At The Top
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/
Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA
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Katrina Engelbert is a Director at Pemba Capital Partners, a private equity firm with $2 billion in funds under management and investments across 36 companies. She sits on the board of five portfolio companies and has spent years evaluating businesses, structuring deals, and working alongside founders through the most critical stages of growth.

In this conversation, Katrina shares what actually happens when a business gets evaluated by private equity, why the gap between founder optimism and investor skepticism creates friction, and what the bar looks like for businesses that want to attract serious capital. She also explains how AI is reshaping the landscape, why services businesses are suddenly being valued like software companies, and what founders need to know before they ever take a meeting with an investor.

She explains:





Why founders and investors see the same business through completely different lenses



The revenue and profitability thresholds that make a business interesting to private equity



What actually gets priced into a valuation, and what doesn&#39;t



The red flags that make investors walk away, even when the numbers look good



How AI is changing deal flow, and why services businesses with automation potential are suddenly commanding software multiples



Why liquidity preferences and earn outs exist, and when they actually make sense



What changes when an investor comes on board, and why accountability lifts performance



The reverse due diligence every founder should do before accepting capital



Why every business owner should map out their strategy as if an exit is coming, even if they never plan to sell

If you&#39;ve ever wondered what private equity actually looks for, or whether your business is on the right trajectory to attract serious capital, this episode will give you the investor perspective most founders never get to hear.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:02 The Valuation Gap: Why Founders Feel Offended by PE Offers
00:04:20 Red Flags That Make PE Walk Away Immediately
00:06:03 Does Culture Actually Impact Valuation?
00:09:39 What Gets PE Really Excited About a Business
00:12:18 The AI Revolution: How It&#39;s Changing Private Equity
00:15:31 Services Businesses Trading Like Software: The AI Opportunity
00:18:35 Red Flags Revisited: Defensiveness and Unrealistic Forecasts
00:20:47 Due Diligence Explained: What Founders Need to Know
00:23:52 When PE Comes In: Revenue and Profitability Thresholds
00:25:51 The Teenage Years: Why PE Targets This Growth Stage
00:28:43 How PE Finds Deals and Why Inbound Inquiries Are Often Struggling
00:30:12 Reverse Due Diligence: What Founders Should Ask PE Funds
00:33:30 The Advisor Problem: When Your Lawyer Isn&#39;t M&amp;A Ready
00:34:50 Liquidity Preferences Explained: Downside Protection or Trap?
00:37:56 Earn Outs vs. Management Ratchets: Aligning Incentives
00:39:30 Life After Investment: How Everything Changes
00:41:03 Rolling Equity: You Don&#39;t Have to Exit 100%



We&#39;re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.


Katrina Engelbert:
LinkedIn https://au.linkedin.com/in/katrinaengelbert
Pemba Capital Partners https://www.pemba.com.au


At The Top

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KVMMHXZJ381DX7ENEHHJFZSJ</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KVMMHXZJJBNWK3ENRXP2FZ7E.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Understanding how investors think about valuation, risk, and growth could transform how you build your business today, even if you never plan to sell.</p><p class="text-node">Katrina Engelbert is a Director at Pemba Capital Partners, a private equity firm with $2 billion in funds under management and investments across 36 companies. She sits on the board of five portfolio companies and has spent years evaluating businesses, structuring deals, and working alongside founders through the most critical stages of growth.</p><p class="text-node">In this conversation, Katrina shares what actually happens when a business gets evaluated by private equity, why the gap between founder optimism and investor skepticism creates friction, and what the bar looks like for businesses that want to attract serious capital. She also explains how AI is reshaping the landscape, why services businesses are suddenly being valued like software companies, and what founders need to know before they ever take a meeting with an investor.</p><p class="text-node">She explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why founders and investors see the same business through completely different lenses</li><li class="list-item-node">The revenue and profitability thresholds that make a business interesting to private equity</li><li class="list-item-node">What actually gets priced into a valuation, and what doesn't</li><li class="list-item-node">The red flags that make investors walk away, even when the numbers look good</li><li class="list-item-node">How AI is changing deal flow, and why services businesses with automation potential are suddenly commanding software multiples</li><li class="list-item-node">Why liquidity preferences and earn outs exist, and when they actually make sense</li><li class="list-item-node">What changes when an investor comes on board, and why accountability lifts performance</li><li class="list-item-node">The reverse due diligence every founder should do before accepting capital</li><li class="list-item-node">Why every business owner should map out their strategy as if an exit is coming, even if they never plan to sell</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you've ever wondered what private equity actually looks for, or whether your business is on the right trajectory to attract serious capital, this episode will give you the investor perspective most founders never get to hear.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:02:02</strong> The Valuation Gap: Why Founders Feel Offended by PE Offers</li><li><strong>00:04:20</strong> Red Flags That Make PE Walk Away Immediately</li><li><strong>00:06:03</strong> Does Culture Actually Impact Valuation?</li><li><strong>00:09:39</strong> What Gets PE Really Excited About a Business</li><li><strong>00:12:18</strong> The AI Revolution: How It's Changing Private Equity</li><li><strong>00:15:31</strong> Services Businesses Trading Like Software: The AI Opportunity</li><li><strong>00:18:35</strong> Red Flags Revisited: Defensiveness and Unrealistic Forecasts</li><li><strong>00:20:47</strong> Due Diligence Explained: What Founders Need to Know</li><li><strong>00:23:52</strong> When PE Comes In: Revenue and Profitability Thresholds</li><li><strong>00:25:51</strong> The Teenage Years: Why PE Targets This Growth Stage</li><li><strong>00:28:43</strong> How PE Finds Deals and Why Inbound Inquiries Are Often Struggling</li><li><strong>00:30:12</strong> Reverse Due Diligence: What Founders Should Ask PE Funds</li><li><strong>00:33:30</strong> The Advisor Problem: When Your Lawyer Isn't M&A Ready</li><li><strong>00:34:50</strong> Liquidity Preferences Explained: Downside Protection or Trap?</li><li><strong>00:37:56</strong> Earn Outs vs. Management Ratchets: Aligning Incentives</li><li><strong>00:39:30</strong> Life After Investment: How Everything Changes</li><li><strong>00:41:03</strong> Rolling Equity: You Don't Have to Exit 100%</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Katrina Engelbert:<br>LinkedIn <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://au.linkedin.com/in/katrinaengelbert">https://au.linkedin.com/in/katrinaengelbert</a><br>Pemba Capital Partners <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.pemba.com.au">https://www.pemba.com.au</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Private Equity Director: The red flags that make investors walk away</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7G59XDK8A988RW3G29VR7/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2533</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>Understanding how investors think about valuation, risk, and growth could transform how you build your business today, even if you never plan to sell.

Katrina Engelbert is a Director at Pemba Capital Partners, a private equity firm with $2 billion in funds under management and investments across 36 companies. She sits on the board of five portfolio companies and has spent years evaluating businesses, structuring deals, and working alongside founders through the most critical stages of growth.

In this conversation, Katrina shares what actually happens when a business gets evaluated by private equity, why the gap between founder optimism and investor skepticism creates friction, and what the bar looks like for businesses that want to attract serious capital. She also explains how AI is reshaping the landscape, why services businesses are suddenly being valued like software companies, and what founders need to know before they ever take a meeting with an investor.

She explains:





Why founders and investors see the same business through completely different lenses



The revenue and profitability thresholds that make a business interesting to private equity



What actually gets priced into a valuation, and what doesn&#39;t



The red flags that make investors walk away, even when the numbers look good



How AI is changing deal flow, and why services businesses with automation potential are suddenly commanding software multiples



Why liquidity preferences and earn outs exist, and when they actually make sense



What changes when an investor comes on board, and why accountability lifts performance



The reverse due diligence every founder should do before accepting capital



Why every business owner should map out their strategy as if an exit is coming, even if they never plan to sell

If you&#39;ve ever wondered what private equity actually looks for, or whether your business is on the right trajectory to attract serious capital, this episode will give you the investor perspective most founders never get to hear.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:02 The Valuation Gap: Why Founders Feel Offended by PE Offers
00:04:20 Red Flags That Make PE Walk Away Immediately
00:06:03 Does Culture Actually Impact Valuation?
00:09:39 What Gets PE Really Excited About a Business
00:12:18 The AI Revolution: How It&#39;s Changing Private Equity
00:15:31 Services Businesses Trading Like Software: The AI Opportunity
00:18:35 Red Flags Revisited: Defensiveness and Unrealistic Forecasts
00:20:47 Due Diligence Explained: What Founders Need to Know
00:23:52 When PE Comes In: Revenue and Profitability Thresholds
00:25:51 The Teenage Years: Why PE Targets This Growth Stage
00:28:43 How PE Finds Deals and Why Inbound Inquiries Are Often Struggling
00:30:12 Reverse Due Diligence: What Founders Should Ask PE Funds
00:33:30 The Advisor Problem: When Your Lawyer Isn&#39;t M&amp;A Ready
00:34:50 Liquidity Preferences Explained: Downside Protection or Trap?
00:37:56 Earn Outs vs. Management Ratchets: Aligning Incentives
00:39:30 Life After Investment: How Everything Changes
00:41:03 Rolling Equity: You Don&#39;t Have to Exit 100%



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Katrina Engelbert:
LinkedIn https://au.linkedin.com/in/katrinaengelbert
Pemba Capital Partners https://www.pemba.com.au


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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7G8S70DGAVXRKM97RZQA5/6.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7G8S70DGAVXRKM97RZQA5/6.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KVMMJ8N9AK2PCP0Z2WEN05R2/episode6-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KVMMHXZJJBNWK3ENRXP2FZ7E.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Cybersecurity Expert: I&#39;ve had CEOs crying... &#39;Do I have to sack 500 employees?&#39;</title><description>The reality is, you&#39;re already a target, and the threat landscape in 2026 is unlike anything we&#39;ve seen before.

Ahmed Khanji is Founder and CEO of Gridware Cybersecurity, an award winning cybersecurity business. He recently stated that after 17 years in the industry, he&#39;s never been more worried. AI powered tools are now finding security vulnerabilities in minutes that used to take teams of PhDs a full year to uncover. Meanwhile, businesses are still operating without basic protections, hoping insurance will save them when things go wrong.

In this conversation, Ahmed shares what actually happens when a business gets hacked, why the 10 to 100 employee range is the most vulnerable, and the five essential actions every business owner needs to take right now to avoid becoming another victim on the dark web.

He explains:





Why 2026 is the most dangerous year for cybersecurity he&#39;s seen in nearly two decades



How businesses actually get hacked, and why it&#39;s usually embarrassingly simple



Which businesses are most at risk, and why healthcare tops the list



Why cyber insurance isn&#39;t the safety net most business owners think it is



The danger zone for businesses with 10 to 100 employees, and why they&#39;re the easiest targets



How AI is being weaponized by threat actors, and what tools like the Mythos model mean for global security



Why building your own software with AI might be exposing your business to catastrophic risk



The uncomfortable truth about your data: it&#39;s already out there



Five practical actions you can take in the next few weeks to stop being an easy target

If you&#39;ve been putting off cybersecurity because it feels expensive, complicated, or unlikely to affect you, this episode will change how you think about risk. The question isn&#39;t if your business will be targeted. It&#39;s when.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:42 The AI-Powered Threat: Why 2025 Is Different
00:05:46 Is This Just Marketing Hype?
00:08:11 How Businesses Actually Get Hacked
00:10:52 The Ransomware Nightmare: When CEOs Cry
00:17:34 The Cat and Mouse Game: Are We Losing?
00:19:23 The Insurance Trap: Why Coverage Isn&#39;t Enough
00:21:26 Industry Risk Rankings: Who&#39;s Most Vulnerable?
00:29:36 The 10-100 Employee Danger Zone
00:32:22 The Mythos Model and AI Security Tools
00:34:09 The Vibe Coding Problem: Building Without Security
00:37:25 Your Data Is Already Out There
00:42:16 Five Essential Actions to Protect Your Business
00:46:48 Closing Thoughts and Resources



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Ahmed Khanji:
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-khanji/
Gridware Cybersecurity https://gridware.com.au


At The Top

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/
Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA
Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KT3XG91ZFY3NKNN37743ZGNT</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KT3XG91Z35ZPDD59BDNMHHPM.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">The reality is, you're already a target, and the threat landscape in 2026 is unlike anything we've seen before.</p><p class="text-node">Ahmed Khanji is Founder and CEO of Gridware Cybersecurity, an award winning cybersecurity business. He recently stated that after 17 years in the industry, he's never been more worried. AI powered tools are now finding security vulnerabilities in minutes that used to take teams of PhDs a full year to uncover. Meanwhile, businesses are still operating without basic protections, hoping insurance will save them when things go wrong.</p><p class="text-node">In this conversation, Ahmed shares what actually happens when a business gets hacked, why the 10 to 100 employee range is the most vulnerable, and the five essential actions every business owner needs to take right now to avoid becoming another victim on the dark web.</p><p class="text-node">He explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why 2026 is the most dangerous year for cybersecurity he's seen in nearly two decades</li><li class="list-item-node">How businesses actually get hacked, and why it's usually embarrassingly simple</li><li class="list-item-node">Which businesses are most at risk, and why healthcare tops the list</li><li class="list-item-node">Why cyber insurance isn't the safety net most business owners think it is</li><li class="list-item-node">The danger zone for businesses with 10 to 100 employees, and why they're the easiest targets</li><li class="list-item-node">How AI is being weaponized by threat actors, and what tools like the Mythos model mean for global security</li><li class="list-item-node">Why building your own software with AI might be exposing your business to catastrophic risk</li><li class="list-item-node">The uncomfortable truth about your data: it's already out there</li><li class="list-item-node">Five practical actions you can take in the next few weeks to stop being an easy target</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you've been putting off cybersecurity because it feels expensive, complicated, or unlikely to affect you, this episode will change how you think about risk. The question isn't if your business will be targeted. It's when.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:01:42</strong> The AI-Powered Threat: Why 2025 Is Different</li><li><strong>00:05:46</strong> Is This Just Marketing Hype?</li><li><strong>00:08:11</strong> How Businesses Actually Get Hacked</li><li><strong>00:10:52</strong> The Ransomware Nightmare: When CEOs Cry</li><li><strong>00:17:34</strong> The Cat and Mouse Game: Are We Losing?</li><li><strong>00:19:23</strong> The Insurance Trap: Why Coverage Isn't Enough</li><li><strong>00:21:26</strong> Industry Risk Rankings: Who's Most Vulnerable?</li><li><strong>00:29:36</strong> The 10-100 Employee Danger Zone</li><li><strong>00:32:22</strong> The Mythos Model and AI Security Tools</li><li><strong>00:34:09</strong> The Vibe Coding Problem: Building Without Security</li><li><strong>00:37:25</strong> Your Data Is Already Out There</li><li><strong>00:42:16</strong> Five Essential Actions to Protect Your Business</li><li><strong>00:46:48</strong> Closing Thoughts and Resources</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Ahmed Khanji:<br>LinkedIn <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-khanji/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-khanji/</a><br>Gridware Cybersecurity <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://gridware.com.au">https://gridware.com.au</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Cybersecurity Expert: I&#39;ve had CEOs crying... &#39;Do I have to sack 500 employees?&#39;</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7FKWYEJKNPBCT9WW11NK5/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2861</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>The reality is, you&#39;re already a target, and the threat landscape in 2026 is unlike anything we&#39;ve seen before.

Ahmed Khanji is Founder and CEO of Gridware Cybersecurity, an award winning cybersecurity business. He recently stated that after 17 years in the industry, he&#39;s never been more worried. AI powered tools are now finding security vulnerabilities in minutes that used to take teams of PhDs a full year to uncover. Meanwhile, businesses are still operating without basic protections, hoping insurance will save them when things go wrong.

In this conversation, Ahmed shares what actually happens when a business gets hacked, why the 10 to 100 employee range is the most vulnerable, and the five essential actions every business owner needs to take right now to avoid becoming another victim on the dark web.

He explains:





Why 2026 is the most dangerous year for cybersecurity he&#39;s seen in nearly two decades



How businesses actually get hacked, and why it&#39;s usually embarrassingly simple



Which businesses are most at risk, and why healthcare tops the list



Why cyber insurance isn&#39;t the safety net most business owners think it is



The danger zone for businesses with 10 to 100 employees, and why they&#39;re the easiest targets



How AI is being weaponized by threat actors, and what tools like the Mythos model mean for global security



Why building your own software with AI might be exposing your business to catastrophic risk



The uncomfortable truth about your data: it&#39;s already out there



Five practical actions you can take in the next few weeks to stop being an easy target

If you&#39;ve been putting off cybersecurity because it feels expensive, complicated, or unlikely to affect you, this episode will change how you think about risk. The question isn&#39;t if your business will be targeted. It&#39;s when.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:42 The AI-Powered Threat: Why 2025 Is Different
00:05:46 Is This Just Marketing Hype?
00:08:11 How Businesses Actually Get Hacked
00:10:52 The Ransomware Nightmare: When CEOs Cry
00:17:34 The Cat and Mouse Game: Are We Losing?
00:19:23 The Insurance Trap: Why Coverage Isn&#39;t Enough
00:21:26 Industry Risk Rankings: Who&#39;s Most Vulnerable?
00:29:36 The 10-100 Employee Danger Zone
00:32:22 The Mythos Model and AI Security Tools
00:34:09 The Vibe Coding Problem: Building Without Security
00:37:25 Your Data Is Already Out There
00:42:16 Five Essential Actions to Protect Your Business
00:46:48 Closing Thoughts and Resources



We&#39;re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.


Ahmed Khanji:
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-khanji/
Gridware Cybersecurity https://gridware.com.au


At The Top

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7FH5JA8H2NW9516Y5FFN1/5.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7FH5JA8H2NW9516Y5FFN1/5.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KT3XKFKH2V8N0X9QCDKWZQHS/ep005__final_-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KT3XG91Z35ZPDD59BDNMHHPM.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>I Worked Inside Canva &amp; Atlassian: Here&#39;s what top leaders do differently</title><description>Most founders think they need to have it all figured out. The truth is, the best leaders are just making it up as they go… and learning to be okay with that.
Rhiannon Haart is a leadership consultant who has worked inside some of Australia&#39;s fastest-growing companies, including Canva and Atlassian. She&#39;s seen what happens when founders scale too fast, hold on too long, and struggle with the gap between what they project and what they&#39;re really feeling. In this conversation, she shares what actually separates high-performing businesses from the rest: the obsession, the transparency, the willingness to let go, and the hard calls that founders delay far too long.
She explains:
Why the gap between internal reality and external projection is where imposter syndrome takes root
What Melanie Perkins at Canva obsessed over that most founders overlook
The behaviors that serve founders early on but quietly sabotage them as the business grows
How to know when someone on your leadership team isn&#39;t right for the role anymore, and why delaying that conversation damages more than just performance
Why saying yes to every good idea is often what kills momentum, not what creates it
The simple diagnostic framework she uses to uncover what&#39;s actually broken in a business
How to decide who should be in the room when you&#39;re setting strategy, and what makes a strategic planning day actually useful
If you&#39;re leading a growing business and starting to feel the weight of decisions you&#39;re not sure how to make, this episode is a reminder that you don&#39;t need to have all the answers. You just need to get better at the fundamentals.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:34 The Gap Between External Projection and Internal Reality
00:04:18 Dealing with Imposter Syndrome as a Leader
00:06:29 What Top Leaders Do Differently: Obsession and Transparency
00:12:15 Balancing Obsession with Sustainable Culture
00:14:42 When Founder Behaviors Stop Working: The Delegation Problem
00:16:42 The Hardest Conversation: Moving On Early Employees
00:21:38 Leadership Identity Shifts: Navigating Business Growth
00:24:02 The Founder Bottleneck: When You&#39;re the Problem
00:31:26 Building the Foundation: Strategy, Structure, and Strategic Planning

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Follow Rhiannon Haart:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/
Foundry Consulting - https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au
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Show Notes
Jeff Bezos: &#39;You Have Enough Ideas to Destroy Amazon&#39; - https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=zfWwfLAUId_VoMcm&amp;t=145
Mike Cannon-Brooks ‘TEDx Imposter Syndrome’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I
Cliftons Strengths / Myers Briggs - https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test
Marlee - https://getmarlee.com/</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KRX6KG1XZK5G3G8FV0K7BDE3</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KRX6KG1XKCBPX9BKJA7HCX84.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Most founders think they need to have it all figured out. The truth is, the best leaders are just making it up as they go… and learning to be okay with that.</p><p class="text-node">Rhiannon Haart is a leadership consultant who has worked inside some of Australia's fastest-growing companies, including Canva and Atlassian. She's seen what happens when founders scale too fast, hold on too long, and struggle with the gap between what they project and what they're really feeling. In this conversation, she shares what actually separates high-performing businesses from the rest: the obsession, the transparency, the willingness to let go, and the hard calls that founders delay far too long.</p><p class="text-node">She explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why the gap between internal reality and external projection is where imposter syndrome takes root</li><li class="list-item-node">What Melanie Perkins at Canva obsessed over that most founders overlook</li><li class="list-item-node">The behaviors that serve founders early on but quietly sabotage them as the business grows</li><li class="list-item-node">How to know when someone on your leadership team isn't right for the role anymore, and why delaying that conversation damages more than just performance</li><li class="list-item-node">Why saying yes to every good idea is often what kills momentum, not what creates it</li><li class="list-item-node">The simple diagnostic framework she uses to uncover what's actually broken in a business</li><li class="list-item-node">How to decide who should be in the room when you're setting strategy, and what makes a strategic planning day actually useful</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you're leading a growing business and starting to feel the weight of decisions you're not sure how to make, this episode is a reminder that you don't need to have all the answers. You just need to get better at the fundamentals.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:01:34</strong> The Gap Between External Projection and Internal Reality</li><li><strong>00:04:18</strong> Dealing with Imposter Syndrome as a Leader</li><li><strong>00:06:29</strong> What Top Leaders Do Differently: Obsession and Transparency</li><li><strong>00:12:15</strong> Balancing Obsession with Sustainable Culture</li><li><strong>00:14:42</strong> When Founder Behaviors Stop Working: The Delegation Problem</li><li><strong>00:16:42</strong> The Hardest Conversation: Moving On Early Employees</li><li><strong>00:21:38</strong> Leadership Identity Shifts: Navigating Business Growth</li><li><strong>00:24:02</strong> The Founder Bottleneck: When You're the Problem</li><li><strong>00:31:26</strong> Building the Foundation: Strategy, Structure, and Strategic Planning</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Follow Rhiannon Haart:</p><p class="text-node">LinkedIn - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/</a><br>Foundry Consulting - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au">https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a><br><br>Show Notes</p><p class="text-node">Jeff Bezos: 'You Have Enough Ideas to Destroy Amazon' - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=8DGS2y5ndzDml84f&amp;t=145">https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=zfWwfLAUId_VoMcm&amp;t=145</a></p><p class="text-node">Mike Cannon-Brooks ‘TEDx Imposter Syndrome’ - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I</a></p><p class="text-node">Cliftons Strengths / Myers Briggs - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_b_QBhCSARIsAP6hR4f1uM9Kp5Y596CQE9ur2fQg6bjpIlQPT09JgQY1EqSyGczfTfij6TIaApmFEALw_wcB&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=23296896425&amp;utm_content=187856925494&amp;utm_term=cliftonstrengths&amp;matchtype=e&amp;device=c&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=23296896425&amp;gbraid=0AAAABCDT4dzRHStj5t6qxYqcTggHQYxAC&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw_b_QBhCSARIsAP6hR4f1uM9Kp5Y596CQE9ur2fQg6bjpIlQPT09JgQY1EqSyGczfTfij6TIaApmFEALw_wcB">https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test</a></p><p class="text-node">Marlee - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://getmarlee.com/">https://getmarlee.com/</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>I Worked Inside Canva &amp; Atlassian: Here&#39;s what top leaders do differently</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7ET2T3ESDDBPKY3CSYZJN/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>2275</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>Most founders think they need to have it all figured out. The truth is, the best leaders are just making it up as they go… and learning to be okay with that.
Rhiannon Haart is a leadership consultant who has worked inside some of Australia&#39;s fastest-growing companies, including Canva and Atlassian. She&#39;s seen what happens when founders scale too fast, hold on too long, and struggle with the gap between what they project and what they&#39;re really feeling. In this conversation, she shares what actually separates high-performing businesses from the rest: the obsession, the transparency, the willingness to let go, and the hard calls that founders delay far too long.
She explains:
Why the gap between internal reality and external projection is where imposter syndrome takes root
What Melanie Perkins at Canva obsessed over that most founders overlook
The behaviors that serve founders early on but quietly sabotage them as the business grows
How to know when someone on your leadership team isn&#39;t right for the role anymore, and why delaying that conversation damages more than just performance
Why saying yes to every good idea is often what kills momentum, not what creates it
The simple diagnostic framework she uses to uncover what&#39;s actually broken in a business
How to decide who should be in the room when you&#39;re setting strategy, and what makes a strategic planning day actually useful
If you&#39;re leading a growing business and starting to feel the weight of decisions you&#39;re not sure how to make, this episode is a reminder that you don&#39;t need to have all the answers. You just need to get better at the fundamentals.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:34 The Gap Between External Projection and Internal Reality
00:04:18 Dealing with Imposter Syndrome as a Leader
00:06:29 What Top Leaders Do Differently: Obsession and Transparency
00:12:15 Balancing Obsession with Sustainable Culture
00:14:42 When Founder Behaviors Stop Working: The Delegation Problem
00:16:42 The Hardest Conversation: Moving On Early Employees
00:21:38 Leadership Identity Shifts: Navigating Business Growth
00:24:02 The Founder Bottleneck: When You&#39;re the Problem
00:31:26 Building the Foundation: Strategy, Structure, and Strategic Planning

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Follow Rhiannon Haart:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/
Foundry Consulting - https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au
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Show Notes
Jeff Bezos: &#39;You Have Enough Ideas to Destroy Amazon&#39; - https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=zfWwfLAUId_VoMcm&amp;t=145
Mike Cannon-Brooks ‘TEDx Imposter Syndrome’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I
Cliftons Strengths / Myers Briggs - https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test
Marlee - https://getmarlee.com/</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7EXQYBKR2E6YES2991EM4/4.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7EXQYBKR2E6YES2991EM4/4.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KRZDX5VDW1F9HQQ88Z1XEQN3/episode_004_final-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KRX6KG1XKCBPX9BKJA7HCX84.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>I Started My Firm at 25… From a Hospital Bed</title><description>Chris Athanassios walked away from a top-tier firm at the age of 25 to start his own… they told him it was career suicide.

Chris is Managing Principal at MillerPrince, a multi-partner law firm he co-founded at an age when most lawyers are still grinding toward their first promotion. In this conversation, he shares what it actually takes to build a firm from scratch: the survival mode, the self-doubt, the moments when credibility mattered more than capability, and the lessons he wishes someone had told him before he signed that first lease.

He explains:





Why he knew within six weeks of joining a top-tier firm that he wouldn&#39;t stay



How starting young with nothing to lose became his biggest advantage



The six to nine months he went without a salary just to keep the lights on



How publishing a book at 24 helped him overcome age bias and build credibility fast



What happened when one of the founding partners left, and how they stayed friends



How AI is changing the role of junior lawyers and what business owners should use it for



The one question anyone thinking about starting a law firm today needs to answer first

If you&#39;ve ever wondered whether it&#39;s too late to start your own firm, or whether now is actually the best time, this episode will challenge how you think about risk, timing, and what it really means to build something of your own.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:16 Realizing Big Law Wasn&#39;t the Path: Six Weeks to Clarity
00:03:35 The Decision to Start a Firm: From Rejection to Reality
00:04:27 Nothing to Lose: The Young Entrepreneur&#39;s Advantage
00:06:02 Overcoming Age Bias: Building Credibility at 25
00:06:24 Starting with One Client: The Hospital Bed Launch
00:08:42 Survival Mode: Six to Nine Months Without Salary
00:15:55 Growing Into Capability: Taking on Work Before You&#39;re Ready
00:18:02 Business Divorce Done Right: When a Founder Leaves
00:20:02 Strategic Alignment: Leading a Multi-Partner Firm
00:21:28 AI and the Future of Legal Services: What Can&#39;t Technology Do?
00:26:49 Should You Start a Law Firm Today? The Key Question Nobody Asks



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Chris Athanassios:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-athanassios-5023666a/
MillerPrince - https://www.millerprince.com.au/


At The Top

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/
Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA
Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KQS7SX35VTM6FEY3C9P2Q6NM</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KQS7SX354DB9X41WBYPE4PGG.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Chris Athanassios walked away from a top-tier firm at the age of 25 to start his own… they told him it was career suicide.</p><p class="text-node">Chris is Managing Principal at MillerPrince, a multi-partner law firm he co-founded at an age when most lawyers are still grinding toward their first promotion. In this conversation, he shares what it actually takes to build a firm from scratch: the survival mode, the self-doubt, the moments when credibility mattered more than capability, and the lessons he wishes someone had told him before he signed that first lease.</p><p class="text-node">He explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why he knew within six weeks of joining a top-tier firm that he wouldn't stay</li><li class="list-item-node">How starting young with nothing to lose became his biggest advantage</li><li class="list-item-node">The six to nine months he went without a salary just to keep the lights on</li><li class="list-item-node">How publishing a book at 24 helped him overcome age bias and build credibility fast</li><li class="list-item-node">What happened when one of the founding partners left, and how they stayed friends</li><li class="list-item-node">How AI is changing the role of junior lawyers and what business owners should use it for</li><li class="list-item-node">The one question anyone thinking about starting a law firm today needs to answer first</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you've ever wondered whether it's too late to start your own firm, or whether now is actually the best time, this episode will challenge how you think about risk, timing, and what it really means to build something of your own.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:01:16</strong> Realizing Big Law Wasn't the Path: Six Weeks to Clarity</li><li><strong>00:03:35</strong> The Decision to Start a Firm: From Rejection to Reality</li><li><strong>00:04:27</strong> Nothing to Lose: The Young Entrepreneur's Advantage</li><li><strong>00:06:02</strong> Overcoming Age Bias: Building Credibility at 25</li><li><strong>00:06:24</strong> Starting with One Client: The Hospital Bed Launch</li><li><strong>00:08:42</strong> Survival Mode: Six to Nine Months Without Salary</li><li><strong>00:15:55</strong> Growing Into Capability: Taking on Work Before You're Ready</li><li><strong>00:18:02</strong> Business Divorce Done Right: When a Founder Leaves</li><li><strong>00:20:02</strong> Strategic Alignment: Leading a Multi-Partner Firm</li><li><strong>00:21:28</strong> AI and the Future of Legal Services: What Can't Technology Do?</li><li><strong>00:26:49</strong> Should You Start a Law Firm Today? The Key Question Nobody Asks</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Chris Athanassios:<br>LinkedIn - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-athanassios-5023666a/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-athanassios-5023666a/</a><br>MillerPrince - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.millerprince.com.au/">https://www.millerprince.com.au/</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>I Started My Firm at 25… From a Hospital Bed</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7E0HAFRAW6AQ6JRNV0W1J/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1908</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>Chris Athanassios walked away from a top-tier firm at the age of 25 to start his own… they told him it was career suicide.

Chris is Managing Principal at MillerPrince, a multi-partner law firm he co-founded at an age when most lawyers are still grinding toward their first promotion. In this conversation, he shares what it actually takes to build a firm from scratch: the survival mode, the self-doubt, the moments when credibility mattered more than capability, and the lessons he wishes someone had told him before he signed that first lease.

He explains:





Why he knew within six weeks of joining a top-tier firm that he wouldn&#39;t stay



How starting young with nothing to lose became his biggest advantage



The six to nine months he went without a salary just to keep the lights on



How publishing a book at 24 helped him overcome age bias and build credibility fast



What happened when one of the founding partners left, and how they stayed friends



How AI is changing the role of junior lawyers and what business owners should use it for



The one question anyone thinking about starting a law firm today needs to answer first

If you&#39;ve ever wondered whether it&#39;s too late to start your own firm, or whether now is actually the best time, this episode will challenge how you think about risk, timing, and what it really means to build something of your own.

Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:16 Realizing Big Law Wasn&#39;t the Path: Six Weeks to Clarity
00:03:35 The Decision to Start a Firm: From Rejection to Reality
00:04:27 Nothing to Lose: The Young Entrepreneur&#39;s Advantage
00:06:02 Overcoming Age Bias: Building Credibility at 25
00:06:24 Starting with One Client: The Hospital Bed Launch
00:08:42 Survival Mode: Six to Nine Months Without Salary
00:15:55 Growing Into Capability: Taking on Work Before You&#39;re Ready
00:18:02 Business Divorce Done Right: When a Founder Leaves
00:20:02 Strategic Alignment: Leading a Multi-Partner Firm
00:21:28 AI and the Future of Legal Services: What Can&#39;t Technology Do?
00:26:49 Should You Start a Law Firm Today? The Key Question Nobody Asks



We&#39;re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.


Chris Athanassios:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-athanassios-5023666a/
MillerPrince - https://www.millerprince.com.au/


At The Top

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7DSZTGPZANHQ3S5YA01WH/3.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7DSZTGPZANHQ3S5YA01WH/3.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KQS7TPKXETKPDETDD8R9X1C4/ep003_full_episode-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KQS7SX354DB9X41WBYPE4PGG.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Law Founder: We disrupted ourselves with AI... and doubled revenue with half the team</title><description>AI is changing how legal work gets done. But most law firms are watching from the sidelines. Alex Solo saw it coming and made a choice: disrupt his own business before someone else did.
Alex is co-founder and CEO of Sprint Law, an award-winning law firm that launched Taylor AI, the world&#39;s first voice-enabled AI lawyer for small businesses. In 2022, while his firm was winning awards and scaling fast, he and his co-founder asked a dangerous question: what if we could disrupt ourselves?
The result? A complete strategic pivot that doubled revenue with half the team. In this conversation, Alex shares what that journey looked like from the inside, the fears, the framing, the execution, and the lessons learned from betting on technology while everyone else hesitated.
He explains:
Why a successful, award-winning law firm decided to disrupt itself in 2022
How Sprint Law doubled revenue while shrinking the team from 60 to 31 people
What business owners should stop paying lawyers for in the age of AI
The risk matrix framework for deciding when to use AI versus when to hire a lawyer
How to frame major strategic pivots to your team without creating panic
Whether it&#39;s too late for small law firms to adopt AI and compete
If you&#39;re thinking about how AI might reshape your industry, or wondering whether to disrupt your own business model before someone else does, this episode offers a rare look at what that decision looks like in practice, from someone who&#39;s living it.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:14 The Decision to Disrupt Ourselves
00:03:25 The Sprint Philosophy: Constant Innovation
00:04:54 The AI Awakening: ChatGPT Changes Everything
00:06:44 Big Law vs. Small Firms: Who Will Survive AI?
00:10:53 Introducing Taylor AI: The Voice-Enabled Lawyer
00:16:50 What Business Owners Should Stop Paying Lawyers For
00:18:41 Shrinking the Team, Doubling Revenue
00:22:24 Announcing the Pivot: Managing Team Fear and Excitement
00:26:43 Is It Too Late for Small Law Firms?
00:36:38 The Secret Sauce: Operations Over Legal Tech
00:39:11 AI Tips and Closing Thoughts

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Alex Solo:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/asolo/
Sprint Law:
Web - https://sprintlaw.com.au/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/sprintlaw/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sprintlaw/
At The Top
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/
Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?
Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KQ4EH9MX1HBFHFABBPJB7EH4</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 22:00:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KQ4EH9MX98R84MCQE5H9AHJC.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">AI is changing how legal work gets done. But most law firms are watching from the sidelines. Alex Solo saw it coming and made a choice: disrupt his own business before someone else did.</p><p class="text-node">Alex is co-founder and CEO of Sprint Law, an award-winning law firm that launched Taylor AI, the world's first voice-enabled AI lawyer for small businesses. In 2022, while his firm was winning awards and scaling fast, he and his co-founder asked a dangerous question: what if we could disrupt ourselves?</p><p class="text-node">The result? A complete strategic pivot that doubled revenue with half the team. In this conversation, Alex shares what that journey looked like from the inside, the fears, the framing, the execution, and the lessons learned from betting on technology while everyone else hesitated.</p><p class="text-node">He explains:</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">Why a successful, award-winning law firm decided to disrupt itself in 2022</li><li class="list-item-node">How Sprint Law doubled revenue while shrinking the team from 60 to 31 people</li><li class="list-item-node">What business owners should stop paying lawyers for in the age of AI</li><li class="list-item-node">The risk matrix framework for deciding when to use AI versus when to hire a lawyer</li><li class="list-item-node">How to frame major strategic pivots to your team without creating panic</li><li class="list-item-node">Whether it's too late for small law firms to adopt AI and compete</li></ul><p class="text-node">If you're thinking about how AI might reshape your industry, or wondering whether to disrupt your own business model before someone else does, this episode offers a rare look at what that decision looks like in practice, from someone who's living it.</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:01:14</strong> The Decision to Disrupt Ourselves</li><li><strong>00:03:25</strong> The Sprint Philosophy: Constant Innovation</li><li><strong>00:04:54</strong> The AI Awakening: ChatGPT Changes Everything</li><li><strong>00:06:44</strong> Big Law vs. Small Firms: Who Will Survive AI?</li><li><strong>00:10:53</strong> Introducing Taylor AI: The Voice-Enabled Lawyer</li><li><strong>00:16:50</strong> What Business Owners Should Stop Paying Lawyers For</li><li><strong>00:18:41</strong> Shrinking the Team, Doubling Revenue</li><li><strong>00:22:24</strong> Announcing the Pivot: Managing Team Fear and Excitement</li><li><strong>00:26:43</strong> Is It Too Late for Small Law Firms?</li><li><strong>00:36:38</strong> The Secret Sauce: Operations Over Legal Tech</li><li><strong>00:39:11</strong> AI Tips and Closing Thoughts</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Alex Solo:<br>LinkedIn - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/asolo/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/asolo/</a><br><br>Sprint Law:<br>Web - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://sprintlaw.com.au/">https://sprintlaw.com.au/</a><br>LinkedIn - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sprintlaw/posts/?feedView=all">https://www.linkedin.com/company/sprintlaw/</a><br>Instagram - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/sprintlaw/">https://www.instagram.com/sprintlaw/</a><br></p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben">https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben</a><br>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/">https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a><br>Spotify: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA">http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?</a><br>Apple Podcasts: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="link" href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299">http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</a></p><p class="text-node"></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Law Founder: We disrupted ourselves with AI... and doubled revenue with half the team</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7D60T56N37R2YWJ5HKR50/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>3330</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>AI is changing how legal work gets done. But most law firms are watching from the sidelines. Alex Solo saw it coming and made a choice: disrupt his own business before someone else did.
Alex is co-founder and CEO of Sprint Law, an award-winning law firm that launched Taylor AI, the world&#39;s first voice-enabled AI lawyer for small businesses. In 2022, while his firm was winning awards and scaling fast, he and his co-founder asked a dangerous question: what if we could disrupt ourselves?
The result? A complete strategic pivot that doubled revenue with half the team. In this conversation, Alex shares what that journey looked like from the inside, the fears, the framing, the execution, and the lessons learned from betting on technology while everyone else hesitated.
He explains:
Why a successful, award-winning law firm decided to disrupt itself in 2022
How Sprint Law doubled revenue while shrinking the team from 60 to 31 people
What business owners should stop paying lawyers for in the age of AI
The risk matrix framework for deciding when to use AI versus when to hire a lawyer
How to frame major strategic pivots to your team without creating panic
Whether it&#39;s too late for small law firms to adopt AI and compete
If you&#39;re thinking about how AI might reshape your industry, or wondering whether to disrupt your own business model before someone else does, this episode offers a rare look at what that decision looks like in practice, from someone who&#39;s living it.
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:14 The Decision to Disrupt Ourselves
00:03:25 The Sprint Philosophy: Constant Innovation
00:04:54 The AI Awakening: ChatGPT Changes Everything
00:06:44 Big Law vs. Small Firms: Who Will Survive AI?
00:10:53 Introducing Taylor AI: The Voice-Enabled Lawyer
00:16:50 What Business Owners Should Stop Paying Lawyers For
00:18:41 Shrinking the Team, Doubling Revenue
00:22:24 Announcing the Pivot: Managing Team Fear and Excitement
00:26:43 Is It Too Late for Small Law Firms?
00:36:38 The Secret Sauce: Operations Over Legal Tech
00:39:11 AI Tips and Closing Thoughts

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Alex Solo:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/asolo/
Sprint Law:
Web - https://sprintlaw.com.au/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/sprintlaw/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sprintlaw/
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Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299</itunes:summary><podcast:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7D2R41RC38R4MX687BM81/2.jpg" aspect-ratio="16/9"></podcast:image><media:thumbnail url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7D2R41RC38R4MX687BM81/2.jpg"></media:thumbnail><podcast:transcript url="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KQ5VXRZFBEZ1K6CJ6088T2MV/ep002_full_episode-transcoded_transcription.json" type="application/json" language="en" rel="captions"></podcast:transcript><podcast:alternateEnclosure type="application/x-mpegURL" length="0" title="HLS Video Stream" rel="alternate" default="false"><podcast:source uri="https://episode.flightcast.com/hls/v/01KQ4EH9MX98R84MCQE5H9AHJC.m3u8"></podcast:source></podcast:alternateEnclosure></item><item><title>Venture-Backed Founder: I raised millions... and learned the hard truths about Investors</title><description>Raising capital can speed up business growth. It can also speed up bad decisions. Tom Blinksell shares what founders only learn after the money lands.
Tom is a venture-backed founder and CEO building in healthcare, with experience raising capital, managing investors, scaling teams, and learning the real trade-offs that come with growth. In this conversation, he shares the lessons that only become obvious after you’ve been through the meetings, the pressure, the shareholder dynamics, and the mistakes.
He explains: 
How to get warm introductions to investors without existing connections
how to prepare for investor meetings with more than just a pitch deck
the red flags that can signal a tire-kicker, a bad-fit investor, or someone who will create headaches after the deal is done
how excess capital can both speed up, and slow down, execution of your business goals;
what founders should look for in advisors, mentors, and coaches when the pressure mounts up
Whether you&#39;re considering raising capital for the first time or you&#39;re several rounds in, this episode offers honest insights into the realities of venture backed growth that go far beyond the glossy success stories
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:10 First Investor Meetings: Learning the Hard Way
00:04:06 What Investors Actually Want to See
00:06:00 Tire Kickers vs Real Investors: Reading the Room
00:08:37 Getting in Front of Investors: The Warm Introduction Strategy
00:11:00 Choosing the Right Investor
00:12:13 Jeffersonian Dinners: Building Strategic Networks
00:15:03 The Dark Side of Capital: When Money Makes Things Worse
00:17:30 Managing Investor Expectations and Misalignment
00:20:14 Bad Investment Decisions: Red Flags and Lessons
00:21:59 Finding the Right Advisors: The Power of Coaching
00:26:04 CEO Coaching: Managing Energy, Strategy, and Capital
00:25:07 Dealing with Loss: When Your Advisor Passes Away
00:29:12 Government Relations: Worrying About the Wrong Things
00:31:04 Closing Thoughts: Lessons for Venture-Backed Founders

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Tom Blinksell:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomblinksell/ 
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</description><guid isPermaLink="false">flightcast:01KP9E38AWSSJTXN1YZ7BXX0R0</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:34:00 -0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://episode.flightcast.com/01KP9E38AWHCCTPBBVK59KCDCH.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"></enclosure><author>Ben Andrews</author><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="text-node">Raising capital can speed up business growth. It can also speed up bad decisions. Tom Blinksell shares what founders only learn after the money lands.</p><p class="text-node">Tom is a venture-backed founder and CEO building in healthcare, with experience raising capital, managing investors, scaling teams, and learning the real trade-offs that come with growth. In this conversation, he shares the lessons that only become obvious after you’ve been through the meetings, the pressure, the shareholder dynamics, and the mistakes.</p><p class="text-node">He explains:&nbsp;</p><ul class="list-node"><li class="list-item-node">How to get warm introductions to investors without existing connections</li><li class="list-item-node">how to prepare for investor meetings with more than just a pitch deck</li><li class="list-item-node">the red flags that can signal a tire-kicker, a bad-fit investor, or someone who will create headaches after the deal is done</li><li class="list-item-node">how excess capital can both speed up, and slow down, execution of your business goals;</li><li class="list-item-node">what founders should look for in advisors, mentors, and coaches when the pressure mounts up</li></ul><p class="text-node">Whether you're considering raising capital for the first time or you're several rounds in, this episode offers honest insights into the realities of venture backed growth that go far beyond the glossy success stories</p><p class="text-node">Timestamps:<br><h3>Chapters</h3><ul><li><strong>00:00:00</strong> Introduction</li><li><strong>00:03:10</strong> First Investor Meetings: Learning the Hard Way</li><li><strong>00:04:06</strong> What Investors Actually Want to See</li><li><strong>00:06:00</strong> Tire Kickers vs Real Investors: Reading the Room</li><li><strong>00:08:37</strong> Getting in Front of Investors: The Warm Introduction Strategy</li><li><strong>00:11:00</strong> Choosing the Right Investor</li><li><strong>00:12:13</strong> Jeffersonian Dinners: Building Strategic Networks</li><li><strong>00:15:03</strong> The Dark Side of Capital: When Money Makes Things Worse</li><li><strong>00:17:30</strong> Managing Investor Expectations and Misalignment</li><li><strong>00:20:14</strong> Bad Investment Decisions: Red Flags and Lessons</li><li><strong>00:21:59</strong> Finding the Right Advisors: The Power of Coaching</li><li><strong>00:26:04</strong> CEO Coaching: Managing Energy, Strategy, and Capital</li><li><strong>00:25:07</strong> Dealing with Loss: When Your Advisor Passes Away</li><li><strong>00:29:12</strong> Government Relations: Worrying About the Wrong Things</li><li><strong>00:31:04</strong> Closing Thoughts: Lessons for Venture-Backed Founders</li></ul><br></p><p class="text-node">We’re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.<br></p><p class="text-node">Tom Blinksell:<br>LinkedIn - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomblinksell/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomblinksell/</a>&nbsp;</p><p class="text-node">At The Top</p><p class="text-node">Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben<br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/<br>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="link" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/</a></p>]]></content:encoded><itunes:title>Venture-Backed Founder: I raised millions... and learned the hard truths about Investors</itunes:title><itunes:author>Ben Andrews</itunes:author><itunes:image href="https://files.flightcast.com/workspaces/qg5m1vi1ra68fvzowa7cwkrz/01KWP7BPDGH5ZPZQ441S3FJSZ9/untitled__youtube_profile_picture___2_.jpg"></itunes:image><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><itunes:duration>1885</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:summary>Raising capital can speed up business growth. It can also speed up bad decisions. Tom Blinksell shares what founders only learn after the money lands.
Tom is a venture-backed founder and CEO building in healthcare, with experience raising capital, managing investors, scaling teams, and learning the real trade-offs that come with growth. In this conversation, he shares the lessons that only become obvious after you’ve been through the meetings, the pressure, the shareholder dynamics, and the mistakes.
He explains: 
How to get warm introductions to investors without existing connections
how to prepare for investor meetings with more than just a pitch deck
the red flags that can signal a tire-kicker, a bad-fit investor, or someone who will create headaches after the deal is done
how excess capital can both speed up, and slow down, execution of your business goals;
what founders should look for in advisors, mentors, and coaches when the pressure mounts up
Whether you&#39;re considering raising capital for the first time or you&#39;re several rounds in, this episode offers honest insights into the realities of venture backed growth that go far beyond the glossy success stories
Timestamps:
Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:10 First Investor Meetings: Learning the Hard Way
00:04:06 What Investors Actually Want to See
00:06:00 Tire Kickers vs Real Investors: Reading the Room
00:08:37 Getting in Front of Investors: The Warm Introduction Strategy
00:11:00 Choosing the Right Investor
00:12:13 Jeffersonian Dinners: Building Strategic Networks
00:15:03 The Dark Side of Capital: When Money Makes Things Worse
00:17:30 Managing Investor Expectations and Misalignment
00:20:14 Bad Investment Decisions: Red Flags and Lessons
00:21:59 Finding the Right Advisors: The Power of Coaching
00:26:04 CEO Coaching: Managing Energy, Strategy, and Capital
00:25:07 Dealing with Loss: When Your Advisor Passes Away
00:29:12 Government Relations: Worrying About the Wrong Things
00:31:04 Closing Thoughts: Lessons for Venture-Backed Founders

We’re just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers.
Tom Blinksell:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomblinksell/ 
At The Top
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/
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