In this profoundly moving episode of The Meaning We Make Podcast, Dr. Jennifer Musselman sits down with entrepreneur and author Howard Steinberg for a fireside conversation about transgenerational trauma, the cost of achievement, and the courage it takes to let your heart lead. From surviving the Holocaust to building successful businesses on shaky foundations, this episode reveals why external success can never quiet internal angst and how healing requires an open heart. It's about recognizing the wounds you didn't know you carried, understanding how fear has been driving your life, and learning it's never too late to come home to yourself.

Howard shares his extraordinary journey from being the son of Holocaust survivors to becoming a successful entrepreneur. Carrying unprocessed trauma, shame, and a relentless fear of abandonment. He achieved everything society told him would bring happiness, yet something still felt profoundly wrong. He spent decades navigating life through strength, resilience, and power. But he felt alone in crowds, bored easily, struggled to sit still, and couldn't access his intuition because the noise was too loud. His awakening came from finally stopping. Learning to meditate. Exploring somatic breathwork. Sitting in ceremony with psychedelic medicine and letting his heart speak louder than his mind.

He discovered that healing is not thinking your way through. It’s feeling your way home.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✔ Transgenerational trauma and how it lives in your body
✔ How children absorb their parents' unprocessed pain
✔ Impact of complex PTSD on high achievers
✔ Why shame keeps us hiding even when we're successful
✔ How fear of abandonment effects your relationships
✔ Cognitive awareness vs felt sense
✔ The mind cannot heal what only the heart can feel
✔ The trap of being a problem seeker to avoid feeling
✔ The role of meditation, somatic work, and psychedelic medicine in awakening
✔ Healing requires surrender, not strategy
✔ Separating yourself from your stories
✔ The privilege and responsibility of healing

WHO THIS IS FOR

• High achievers who feel empty despite external success

• Anyone carrying shame from childhood they can't quite name

• Children of immigrants or trauma survivors

• Anyone clinging to relationships, work, or control out of fear

• Men struggling to be vulnerable

• Anyone interested in somatic healing, psychedelics, and authentic living

This conversation will change how you approach success and healing. From plant medicine to raw vulnerability, this is your guide to building a relationship with your authentic self.

Join Dr. Musselman and Howard Steinberg for this raw, revelatory talk about the cost of living in your head instead of your heart, and how surrendering to your truth is the most courageous act of all. Let your heart lead.

HOWARD STEINBERG: Confessions of a Problem Seeker

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Conversations at the intersection of:
psychology, trauma, healing, and authentic living

Chapters

• 00:00:00 The Holocaust and Lasting Impacts
• 00:01:26 Welcome and Introduction
• 00:04:22 Burden of Transgenerational Trauma
• 00:06:34 Diabetes Became My Holocaust
• 00:09:00 Shame of Hiding and Permission to Conceal
• 00:10:45 Self-Constructs: Fear, Control, and Survival
• 00:11:33 My Marriage: Safety Over Love
• 00:15:15 The Problem-Seeking Mind: Accidental Success
• 00:19:35 Abandonment Wounds
• 00:25:44 The Foundation Cracked: Divorce, Loss, and Empty Nest
• 00:26:59 Learning to Surrender: Meditation and the Journey Inward
• 00:27:34 Psychedelic Medicine
• 00:30:20 The Non-Linear Path
• 00:44:32 The Privilege to Heal: What Success Really Gave Me
• 00:45:25 Writing the Book: Leaving Truth Behind for My Daughters
• 00:51:32 The Heroic Story vs. The Heart

In this revelatory episode of The Meaning We Make Podcast, Dr. Jennifer Musselman sits down with rising medium and spirit guide coach, Aja Daashuur for an intimate fireside conversation about mediumship, intuition, and the powerful connection between this world and the next. From childhood visions to spiritual practice, Aja's journey reveals how we can all access the spiritual wisdom that surrounds us.

This isn't just about talking to the dead. It's about trusting yourself, hearing your own voice, and understanding that you are never truly alone.

🌟 WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS

We live in a world that teaches us to outsource our power.

We look to fortune tellers for certainty.
We seek psychics for answers.
We want someone else to tell us what to do.

👉 But what if the answers are already within you?

Aja shares her extraordinary journey from a terrified five year old seeing ghosts in her bedroom to building a thriving practice helping others connect to their spirit guides, ancestors and highest selves.

This episode reframes spiritual connection for what it really is:

👉 A relationship with your intuition
👉 A practice of trust
👉 A pathway to healing

🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✔ The difference between spirit guides and ancestors
✔ How to distinguish intuition from spiritual guidance
✔ The clairs: clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, claircognizance
✔ Why children's imaginary friends might be real
✔ The historical context of mediumship
✔ How to build your own daily spiritual practice
✔ Being stuck is actually a liminal space for growth
✔ The meaning we make from trauma shapes our reality
✔ Healing intergenerational wounds
✔ Past lives and the sphere of time
✔ Psychedelics and spirit work
✔ How to set boundaries with the spirit world
✔ Multiple timelines and existence
✔ Why manifesting isn't enough without soul work

⚠️ THE TRAP OF OUTSOURCING YOUR POWER

You cannot give away your power to a psychic and expect transformation.

You cannot demand certainty from the universe.

You cannot skip the work of trusting yourself.

The work isn't about fortune telling.
It's about building a relationship with your spiritual team so you can hear the guidance that's always been there.

From automatic writing to oracle cards to meditation practices, this episode explores how you can develop your own spiritual language and stop waiting for permission to trust yourself.

🔥 WHO THIS IS FOR

• Anyone grieving a loved one and seeking connection

• People curious about mediumship and spirit guides

• Parents whose children talk about imaginary friends

• Anyone who feels stuck and needs a new perspective

• Skeptics willing to explore with an open mind

• Anyone interested in intuition, spirituality, and self trust

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If you've ever thought:
"I wish I could connect with someone I've lost"
"I don't know if I can trust my intuition"
"What if there's more to life than what I can see?"

This conversation will change how you think about spirit, self, and the invisible support that surrounds you always.

Join Dr. Musselman and Aja Daashuur for this raw, revelatory conversation about connecting with spirit guides, why your intuition is your greatest asset, how to build a spiritual practice that works for you, and why trusting yourself is the most radical act of all. Whether you're a skeptic, a seeker, or somewhere in between, this episode offers hope, clarity, and permission to trust what you already know.

AJA DAASHUUR: https://thespiritguidecoach.com

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Conversations at the intersection of:
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Chapters

• 00:00:00 Opening: Your Mother Is Here
• 00:01:39 Introduction to Aja Daashuur
• 00:01:55 The Problem with Fortune Telling
• 00:03:39 Spirit Guides vs Ancestors: Understanding the Difference
• 00:05:29 The Psychic Network and Outsourcing Power
• 00:08:50 Multiple Timelines and the Train Metaphor
• 00:11:26 A Five-Year-Old's Visions: Aja's Gift Emerges
• 00:14:37 The Dark Night That Changed Everything
• 00:18:35 Meeting Monty: The Voice That Started It All
• 00:25:29 When Your Parents Don't Support Your Calling
• 00:28:27 Trust Your Kids: Imaginary Friends and Intuition
• 00:30:05 Historical Context: Mediumship and Survival
• 00:36:37 The Clairs: How We Receive Spiritual Information
• 00:39:26 Building Your Own Spiritual Practice
• 00:42:51 Being Stuck Is Actually a Liminal Space
• 00:46:15 The Meaning We Make From Trauma
• 01:00:57 Spirits on This Land: Montecito and Healing
• 01:11:38 We Are Each Other's Mirror: A Message From Mom
• 01:30:35 Past Lives and the Sphere of Time
• 01:28:37 Psychedelics and Spirit Work: Proceed with Caution
• 01:38:53 Setting Boundaries with the Spirit World

In this powerful episode of The Meaning We Make Podcast, Dr. Jennifer Musselman sits down with Dr. Orel Swenson, former Johns Hopkins ER physician turned regenerative medicine specialist, for a raw, eye-opening conversation on men’s sexual health, vitality, and performance optimization.

This isn’t just about libido or erectile dysfunction.

It’s about the hidden connection between your biology, your relationships, and your success.

🚨 WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS

High performers are used to solving problems with discipline, logic, and effort.

But when it comes to:
• declining libido
• low testosterone
• poor sleep
• inability to build muscle
• erectile dysfunction

👉 brute force stops working.

And when biology shifts, it impacts everything:

• Confidence

• Relationships

• Energy

• Leadership performance

This episode breaks the silence around men’s sexual health and reframes it for what it really is:

👉 A relational issue
👉 A biological issue
👉 A performance issue

🧠 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN

✔ What regenerative medicine actually is (and why it’s exploding)
✔ The truth about erectile dysfunction beyond pills
✔ How sexual health impacts professional performance
✔ The real reason libido drops (for men and women)
✔ NAD, peptides, stem cells, and exosomes explained simply
✔ The sperm quality crisis and why fertility is declining
✔ Why high achievers struggle when their biology changes
✔ The connection between stress, cortisol, and sexual performance
✔ Tools for optimizing health across your 30s, 40s, 50s, and beyond
✔ What couples aren’t talking about (but need to)

⚠️ THE HIGH PERFORMER’S TRAP

You can’t outwork biology.

You can’t “mindset” your way out of:

• hormonal decline

• chronic stress

• nervous system dysregulation

And when control slips…

👉 self-criticism rises
👉 performance drops
👉 the spiral accelerates

Dr. Swenson shares how regenerative medicine offers real tools to break that cycle—meeting you where you are and helping you optimize, not just manage decline.

🧬 THE BIG SHIFT

Traditional medicine asks:
“What pill can treat this symptom?”

Regenerative medicine asks:
“What’s possible if we optimize your biology?”

From hormone therapy to peptides like PT-141 and oxytocin, to cellular therapies like NAD and stem cells—this episode explores what’s next in human performance and longevity.

🔥 WHO THIS IS FOR

This episode is for:

• High performers feeling “off” physically or sexually

• Men struggling silently with libido or performance

• Women trying to understand their partner (or themselves)

• Couples navigating desire mismatch

Anyone interested in longevity, optimization, and peak vitality

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If you’ve ever thought:
“Something feels off… but I don’t know what it is”

This conversation will change how you think about your body.

Join Dr. Musselman and Dr. Orel Swenson for this raw, revelatory conversation about the intersection of sexual health and peak performance, why men's vitality is a relational issue, and how regenerative medicine offers tools that go far beyond what traditional healthcare provides. Whether you're struggling in silence, supporting a partner, or simply curious about optimizing your biology, this episode offers hope, clarity, and a roadmap forward.

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Conversations at the intersection of:
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Chapters

• 00:00:00 Opening: Sexual Vitality Is Not Just a Men's Issue
• 00:02:25 Introduction to Dr. Orel Swenson
• 00:04:55 From Johns Hopkins ER to Regenerative Medicine
• 00:09:05 Has Western Medicine Failed Us?
• 00:09:59 What Is Regenerative Medicine?
• 00:16:25 NAD, Exosomes and Cellular Health Explained
• 00:17:36 Erectile Dysfunction: Beyond the Pills
• 00:22:03 The Bedroom to Boardroom Connection
• 00:26:05 Libido Mismatch and Societal Conditioning
• 00:30:30 Women's Sexual Health and Drive
• 00:36:59 The Sperm Quality Crisis
• 00:41:19 Penis Atrophy: Myth vs Reality
• 00:42:16 Men's Sexual Health Across the Lifespan
• 00:46:23 The High-Performer's Trap
• 00:53:09 Why This Work Matters

We enter life on an inhalation and exit on an exhalation. Everything in between is the rhythm of our life in our body. Alia explains how somatic breathwork uses focused, dynamic breathing patterns to activate the nervous system and access truncated, traumatized energy stored in the body. Unlike traditional talk therapy that works primarily with the mind, this practice engages directly with the physical body to release what remains stuck, creating profound shifts in perception, reactivity, and emotional freedom.

This episode explores: What somatic therapy actually means and why body-focused modalities are essential for healing. How breath patterns activate different aspects of the nervous system and alter perception. Why nasal breathing stimulates the parasympathetic system while mouth breathing triggers sympathetic response. The concept that birth itself can be one of our most traumatic experiences. How childhood wounds, emotional neglect, and responsibilities beyond our years create unhealthy core beliefs. Why the body stores unprocessed content and how it impacts our degree of reactivity. The phenomenon of tetany and what physical sensations during breathwork reveal. How enmeshment with parents, especially mothers, lives in our cellular structure. The grief work necessary to separate and create space for yourself. Why couples and families benefit profoundly from somatic breathwork together

The food poisoning metaphor: Alia offers a powerful comparison. You can talk through what you ate and build the narrative, but food poisoning isn't done until it leaves the body. Similarly, we can gain clarity and tools through talk therapy, but at some point we must reckon with what lives in the body. This is where somatic practices become essential, allowing us to discharge emotional content that cognitive work alone cannot touch.

Your body knows what your mind has forgotten: Through breathwork, clients access memories, sensations, and emotions that have been buried for decades. Dr. Musselman shares her own experience on the table, initially thinking she was processing her mother's grief, only to discover the profound enmeshment she carried. She couldn't visualize herself as a little girl because all she could see was her mother. The child she had to take care of. The tension in her lower back, the kidney pain that mirrored her mother's kidney failure, the shaking that moved through her body in waves, all of it was her nervous system finally putting down what it had been holding.

Parents don't realize what children feel: One of the most eye opening parts of this conversation addresses the myth that children don't know when something is wrong. Parents who believe they never fight in front of their kids or that their children had great childhoods often miss the energetic and emotional reality their children absorbed. Kids feel everything. They know when you just had a fight. They carry your dysregulation in their bodies. This isn't about blame, it's about consciousness and the courage to explore what we've inherited and what we're passing on.

Charge reduction is harm reduction. Alia's powerful statement captures the essence of this work. By reducing emotional charge around experiences that historically held enormous weight, we create space for new choices, healthier reactions, and authentic connection. This isn't about reframing or mind hacks. It's about rewriting the scene from the inside out, allowing your story and your feelings to come into alignment naturally.

Join Dr. Musselman and Aliah Seavy for this raw, revelatory conversation about the magic of somatic breath therapy, why your body is not separate from your mind, and how the simple act of breathing with intention can unlock decades of stored trauma and lead you home to yourself.

When an astrologer told Natasha her French ex was her soulmate, she was skeptical. Raised by an MIT graduate who valued facts and logic over spirituality, she dismissed it as nonsense. But with her father in hospice with just weeks to live, something shifted. In a moment of clarity born from despair, she hatched an unconventional plan: find every man born on her ex's birthday, go to Paris, and maybe find love while grieving. Her father's response from his deathbed? "Sounds like you're going to Paris. I'll meet you there."

This episode explores: The beautiful, difficult conversation about aid in dying and choosing how we leave this world. Why grief doesn't look like what we think it should, and the freedom in defying expectations. The sparkly skirt philosophy: celebrating spirit and refusing to let darkness win. How vulnerability and putting yourself out there can create unexpected connection and community. The devastating loss of home and community in the Palisades fires. What collective grief looks like and how it differs from personal loss. Finding healing through nature and becoming a forest therapy guide. The concept of the forest as therapist and why reconnecting with nature is essential. Being of service to others in their grief as a pathway to your own healing. Death positivity and what it means to live fully by facing mortality head on

From heartbreak to Paris and back again: Natasha shares the wild year she spent grieving her father by doing something most people would never dare. She created targeted ads, joined Tinder, made t-shirts, and enlisted strangers across Paris to help her find men born on a specific date. What started as a grief-fueled quest became a memoir, a community, and ultimately a calling. Her Instagram followers grew not because she was trying to be an influencer, but because she was vulnerably sharing her journey, and people were hungry for that authentic connection.

When the fires came: Just when Natasha had found her footing, the Palisades fires took everything. Her home, her community, her hiking trails, her children's schools, and the physical place where she had built her life all gone in a matter of hours. The trauma triggered every previous grief, sending her into panic attacks and brain fog unlike anything she'd experienced. But it also led her to discover forest therapy, to train as a grief guide, and to build an entirely new community around healing and loss.

The gift of the grief community: Through her book tour for "All Signs Point to Paris," Natasha discovered something unexpected: people everywhere were grieving, and they needed connection. She met death doulas, hospice workers, and grief specialists who became her people. They laugh harder than anyone, cry freely, and understand that life is meant to be lived fully precisely because it's so fragile. Now she leads grief hikes, facilitates groups, and serves as a companion for others navigating loss.

Join Dr. Musselman and Natasha Sizlo for this raw, beautiful conversation about finding meaning in loss, the courage to grieve authentically, and why sometimes the most healing thing we can do is help others through their pain. Whether you're grieving a person, a relationship, a home, or a dream, this episode offers hope that light can be found even in the deepest darkness.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Opening: The Astrology Reading That Changed Everything
• 00:02:55 Welcome and Introduction
• 00:06:50 The Difficult Divorce and Starting Over
• 00:07:44 Falling in Love with Philippe and Heartbreak
• 00:08:14 Dad's Terminal Diagnosis and the Astrologer's Prediction
• 00:10:56 The Deathbed Conversation: Aid in Dying and Paris
• 00:16:28 Grief Doesn't Look Like You Think It Does
• 00:17:42 The Paris Adventure: Searching for Love While Grieving
• 00:25:31 Writing the Book: Reliving Loss to Create Meaning
• 00:28:51 The Sparkly Skirt: Celebrating Spirit Amid Grief
• 00:34:52 January 7th: The Day the Palisades Burned
• 00:42:41 Collective Grief: Losing Home and Community
• 00:47:33 Finding the Grief Community
• 00:53:23 Becoming a Forest Therapy Guide
• 00:54:25 The Forest as Therapist: Healing Through Nature
• 00:59:35 Being of Service: The Gift of Helping Others Grieve
• 01:06:00 Death Positivity and Living Fully
• 01:08:58 Making Meaning from Loss

What if your ADHD is actually a genius gene? Dr. Musselman shares her own journey of self-diagnosing ADHD years into her clinical practice, recognizing patterns in her high-functioning clients that mirrored her own experiences. Both she and Dr. Mantz discovered their ADHD in their 40s, despite years of therapy, undiagnosed. Their conversation reveals why so many intelligent, successful people go undiagnosed and how that knowledge can accelerate their growth.

This episode explores: The evolutionary benefits of ADHD. Why high-functioning ADHD often goes unrecognized (especially in people with high IQ). The shift between pathologizing ADHD vs. recognizing it as a spectrum with genuine superpowers. How creativity, entrepreneurship, and the ability to thrive in chaos are hallmarks of the ADHD brain. The importance of systems, delegation, and gamification in managing executive function. Why ADHD brains need more play, movement, and novelty than neurotypical brains. The connection between ADHD and trauma, including childhood emotional neglect and invalidation. How anxiety, OCD, and other co-occurring conditions intersect with ADHD. The role of nutrition, sleep, herbal medicine, and lifestyle in managing symptoms without over-reliance on medication. Why grief work is essential, especially for high-achieving men conditioned to ignore their bodies and emotions

The gift of understanding: Dr. Mantz explains that ADHD is not related to IQ and exists across the entire spectrum of intelligence. When paired with high IQ, however, it creates individuals who can develop remarkable adaptations, turning deficits into competitive advantages. The key is learning to work with your brain rather than against it. Once you recognize your pain points, and your repeating patterns, you can build systems that support your unique neurology. Building habits and routines, proper sleep hygiene, diet, and strategic use of medication - all become essential tools for self-mastery.

From burnout to breakthrough: For entrepreneurs and high achievers, ADHD can be both rocket fuel and kryptonite. The same traits that drive extraordinary success can lead to relationship problems, burnout, and a harsh inner critic. Dr. Mantz shares how many use anxiety and trauma as drivers, creating an unsustainable cycle that eventually crashes. The solution lies in shifting from push-based motivation to pull-based inspiration, connecting actions to values rather than fear. The conversation tackles the loneliness many experience, the tendency toward all-or-nothing thinking, and why selling a business leads to profound emptiness. Understanding your ADHD helps you prepare for transitions, maintain balance, and find sustainable sources of meaning beyond external achievement.

Join Dr. Musselman and Dr. Mantz as they destigmatize ADHD, celebrate neurodivergence, and provide a roadmap for turning what others call a disorder into your greatest competitive advantage. Whether you've been diagnosed, suspect you have ADHD, or love someone who does, this conversation offers validation, practical wisdom, and hope.

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Chapters

• 00:00:00 ADHD: An Evolutionary Gift
• 00:01:58 The Journey to Self-Diagnosis
• 00:03:35 High-Functioning ADHD: Breaking the Stereotype
• 00:06:28 Diagnosis: Label vs Tool
• 00:08:07 ADHD as Superpower: Creativity & Entrepreneurship
• 00:10:29 The Hunter-Gatherer Brain in Modern Society
• 00:11:36 The Interest Paradox: Focus & Hyperfocus
• 00:12:26 Gamification and Learning Strategies
• 00:14:12 The Need for Play & Movement
• 00:15:45 Types and Presentations of ADHD
• 00:16:39 Short-Term Memory & Executive Function
• 00:17:46 Building Systems and Delegation
• 00:19:09 Time Blindness and Daily Challenges
• 00:19:48 Recognizing ADHD: Signs and Patterns
• 00:20:58 ADHD and Entrepreneurship: The Connection
• 00:21:54 Heightened Sensitivity: Gift and Curse
• 00:23:09 Thriving in Chaos: The Emergency Response
• 00:24:16 Anxiety as Fuel: The Dangerous Driver
• 00:25:25 Post-Success Depression and Boredom
• 00:26:04 Relationships and ADHD
• 00:26:39 Task Switching and Hyperfocus Challenges
• 00:28:15 The All-or-Nothing Syndrome
• 00:30:31 Trauma, Sensitivity, and ADHD
• 00:41:07 Loneliness and Being Neurodivergent
• 00:41:50 The Midlife Crisis and Burnout
• 00:42:23 Finding Purpose Beyond Success
• 00:42:49 Interoception and Body Awareness
• 00:44:47 Co-Occurring Conditions: Anxiety and OCD
• 00:53:25 Grief Work: The Path to Healing
• 00:31:53 Treatment Approaches: Medication as Bridge
• 00:33:53 Nutrition and the ADHD Brain
• 00:51:18 Sleep Mastery: The Foundation
• 00:52:52 Building Habits: The Two-Minute Rule
• 00:59:24 Dynamic Dosing: Adapting Your Systems
• 01:00:58 Closing Thoughts and Connection

What does it mean to be born by the fire? It's the understanding that intense adversity doesn't define our limitations but forges our identity, making us stronger and leading to higher consciousness. The very flames that hurt us also shape who we become. Dr. Musselman shares her own journey, born into struggle and witnessing more by age 10 than any child should. Rather than accepting pain as her lot in life, she leveraged it, using education and deep inner work to heal and grow. Her transition from corporate America to becoming a clinician stands as testament to the power of turning toward fear rather than away from it.

This episode explores: The metaphor of transformation through fire and what it means for personal growth Why we must acknowledge adversity, experience our feelings, and move forward to help others How we often mistake our emotional narratives for facts, living in reactive states rather than using emotions as information The danger of holding onto pain, creating disease, bad behaviors, and harmful habits Why doing the inner work and emotional intelligence deep dive is essential, even when it's uncomfortable The research showing that relationships, including the one with ourselves, matter most at the end of life

The promise of this podcast: You don't have to stay stuck in your pain. Whether you're facing an affair, divorce, job loss, empty nesting, or any major life challenge, your adversity can become your greatest opportunity for growth. Pain is one of your greatest teachers if you choose to learn from it. Throughout this season, you'll hear from renowned clinicians offering tools to navigate life's most difficult experiences, plus incredible stories from people who have risen above their darkest moments. Their message is clear: if they did it, so can you. Join the Meaning We Make Community and discover how the meaning you make from your struggles determines your success and satisfaction in life. It's time to rise to your fullest potential, push your boundaries, and become more self aware.

Your pain can be profound in the best way possible if you choose to make something with it. This is The Meaning We Make.

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Chapters

• 00:00:00 Born By The Fire: Opening Reflection
• 00:01:02 Welcome to The Meaning We Make
• 00:01:57 Adversity as Our Greatest Teacher
• 00:02:27 Born Into Struggle: A Personal Story
• 00:03:00 The Inner Work Most People Avoid
• 00:04:13 From Corporate America to Clinical Practice
• 00:04:48 Making Meaning From Pain
• 00:05:04 The Podcast Mission and What's Ahead
• 00:05:48 Join The Community